@@josezavala2745 Inclined to agree. I don’t follow competitive pokemon super closely anymore these days, so wasn’t familiar with him. Good job by both of them though.
I totally agree, I was immediately impressed with the commentators watching vids from the tourney. Both very professional and like you said they add insight rather than just repeating what we see on screen. This is the gold standard.
What a finals match! As dominant as Rinya Sun has been, it's only as good as the player who uses it (as is the case with any other team lol). For Eric to use that team to win a Regional and then an International shows just how skilled he is
Oliver didn't threw it. It was all mindgames at that moment. 1vs1 zacian would win from both. Oliver needed to predict the right moment to EQ, cuz you can't rely on rock slide flinch + thunder. But unlucky he chose the wrong turn for it, not his fault. You can tell Eric was stressed too, cuz every play he made the last 3 turns had to be the right one. That's some tough shit. It could've gone either way if only 1 of them made the right call... And in this case it was Eric
For anyone saying Oliver played weird for double protecting and stuff! Let me explain why those decisions are made! The way Oliver can lose this very hard is if he falls victim to Zacian protecting and him EQ his own ogre! That’s why he double protects to cover for Eric’s protect
@@jimmylim3462 it was actually MISSING the play rough that won eric euic. Bc if he hadn't missed, kyogre would be barely alive and die to life orb after launching an attack. Then landorus can eq since groudon is dead eq becomes a single target move, 100 bp which would KO zacian
@@thatrarebear if zacian no miss, kyorge will die, that health play rough for sure KO, only b.blade maybe can barely alive. kyorge fainted, groudon still alive, and remember zacian faster than landorus, 2 vs 1 should be easy win. Landorus that health can't take zacian one hit and one earthquake not enough to knocked out both. In the end results also win, but not that risky.
@@jayrollo1352 that doesn't mean the endgame was horrible, it was an extremely intricate endgame and was super cool to watch, as well as the fact that riopaser and owe are both incredible players, I don't think it's fair to call either one the "better player" considering eric just won a regional and got second at internats lol
Started out with a 7-1 record and went 3-2 against weaker opponents. The competition is closing the gap and everyone almost uses the same stuff. He is quickly becoming more of an RUclips personality than a champion
@@jamesc7894 no they were not weak opponents his loses on day 2. For example the last opponent he battled, Guillermo Castilla is a very seasoned player just like wolfey who came in 7th at wolrds back in 2012 the same year that Wolfey got 2nd. Since he came back to compete in the swsh era he's shown to still be a great player.
@@jamesc7894 wolfey won 2 games by luck in the day 1 swiss rounds against alex gomez, then he lost to guillermo castilla and Eric rios in day w, he didnt play well thats it
It was a 50/50: if he double attacked that turn (EQ+Thunder) and Zacian protects, you just did the final turn one turn earlier. Double attack with Rock Slide risks Zacian picking off the Kyogre and surviving the Rock Slide If one of Kyogre or Landorus protects and the other attacks, you risk Zacian targeting the attacking one and losing. If you double protect you end up at the final turn which is another 50/50--EQ knocks out Kyogre if Zacian protects or Rock Slide doesn't knock out Zacian if it KOs the Kyogre and then Zacian wins any 1v1 I think the double protect was expecting a Zacian protect to stall out the last turn of rain so Thunder isn't 100% Acc anymore and Eric called out that prediction
But wait I don’t understand, after oliver’s landorus used earthquake it did knocked out kyogre and didn’t knocked out eric’s zacian. How did eric won if oliver’s landorus was still alive?
Oh gosh, Oliver fell to the pressure. Double protecting is not the way to go in a 1 v 2, especially since Zac doesn't have spread type damage. Oliver should have gone for the earth quake a few turns ago.
@@dredre7990 I guess he was trying to predict Eric max guard Charizard and yawn Landorus, it’s kinda 50/50. The final game though, Zacian was intimidated so Oliver really should gamble on Landorus not being OHKO by Zacian and click earthquake+protect Kyogre when Landorus was relatively healthy.
VGC doubles rules are you have a team of 6, which you show your opponent at team preview. Then, based on what your opponent shows you, you pick four of your own, two leads and two held in the back. The actual battle is 4v4. Because it's best of 3, you can change which 4 you bring for the second and third games.
Well, at that point he’d already seen the Play Rough miss come out, whereas thunder in the rain is 100% guaranteed damage and a decent chance to get the para onto Zacian, which would have guaranteed the game.
Oliver’s Kyogre didn’t have Origin Pulse. It’s only water move was Water Spout, which given the Kyogre’s low health, wouldn’t have been enough to put down the Zacian.
@@Scramblepants69 Ah I didn't know that, but isn't it a strange thing to gush if you use life orb? I also played kyogre life orb but with gush but I also had origin pulse because hindsight as you said you would not do more damage because of the life orb. really good games, I would have preferred oliver with kyogre to win since sun wins everything these days.
@@anubis6953 I think the logic is that Water Spout + Life Orb from full or near-full health is so powerful that the recoil from life orb won’t make a huge difference in a quick format like VGC. Like if your health is gonna be lowered so much that Water Spout is useless, that damage isn’t gonna come from Life Orb recoil, it’ll come from damage on the other side, so might as well use life orb to turn it into an absolute nuke while you can. Obviously in the scenario here, Origin Pulse would’ve been more ideal, but it got him to the finals so clearly it served him well for the most part
Y'all are just wrong lol. Zacian KO's lando from there, there was one turn of rain left and thunder would have KO'd zac with thunder. Owe was reading Rios protecting to stall the last turn of rain. If he had clicked earthquake on that turn and Rios had protected (which he thought he would), ogre would die and that would guarantee him the loss. If he clicked rock slide and zacian went after ogre, he lost. If he went for protect on either of his mons and Rios targeted the other he would have lost. It was super mindgame-y and a hard endgame to win, y'all are just talking in hindsight without knowing what you're talking about
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We need to acknowledge how good these commentators are. Some really insightful stuff here.
Anytime Lee commentates its good
@@josezavala2745 Inclined to agree. I don’t follow competitive pokemon super closely anymore these days, so wasn’t familiar with him. Good job by both of them though.
I totally agree, I was immediately impressed with the commentators watching vids from the tourney. Both very professional and like you said they add insight rather than just repeating what we see on screen. This is the gold standard.
Who are the commentators again?
@@cxncxrtmxstxr I googled and they are Labhaoisa Cromie and Lee Provost
That endgame was fantastic
Great game, heart-breaking moments. Well played by both!
eric’s pop off at the end was amazing LOL what a great match!!!
I know that there was no way for Oliver to win after that, but still weird that they cut it off before showing the final turn lol.
Eric swindled the game lol. But hey, he played to his outs.
@@worldsboss owe forfeited lol
Amazing game. Gastro was a huge threat in all matches. That residual damage from max wildfire was very important too.
Without Rillaboom to check it none of them could really touch it. It was unreal
loved watching this - Eric's superb predictions in his move choices right at the end of game 3 were thrilling to watch especially!
What a finals match! As dominant as Rinya Sun has been, it's only as good as the player who uses it (as is the case with any other team lol). For Eric to use that team to win a Regional and then an International shows just how skilled he is
Best commentator due I've heard. Well done. Love the value they bring to this.
insane match, when Zacian missed i thought it was gg. I love VGC -best game ever
Oliver didn't threw it. It was all mindgames at that moment. 1vs1 zacian would win from both. Oliver needed to predict the right moment to EQ, cuz you can't rely on rock slide flinch + thunder. But unlucky he chose the wrong turn for it, not his fault. You can tell Eric was stressed too, cuz every play he made the last 3 turns had to be the right one. That's some tough shit. It could've gone either way if only 1 of them made the right call... And in this case it was Eric
Oliver threw it on game one with that max guard. Should have gone for the chaizard now that it was faster
For anyone saying Oliver played weird for double protecting and stuff! Let me explain why those decisions are made! The way Oliver can lose this very hard is if he falls victim to Zacian protecting and him EQ his own ogre! That’s why he double protects to cover for Eric’s protect
Oliver lost thanks to bad plays. Thay max guard on the landorous when it was faster than the chaizard and could have knocked it out lost him game 1
Better commentary then most sports games. Wish this was my job
Really great match, I think Eric mind game really messed up Oliver
I'm so glad he won that after the Play Rough miss, that was crazy
why not just B.Blade Kyorge?
@@jimmylim3462 bc B.Blade is resisted by kyo
@@thatrarebear b.b not enough for that health ? 90 miss.. sad case
@@jimmylim3462 it was actually MISSING the play rough that won eric euic. Bc if he hadn't missed, kyogre would be barely alive and die to life orb after launching an attack. Then landorus can eq since groudon is dead eq becomes a single target move, 100 bp which would KO zacian
@@thatrarebear if zacian no miss, kyorge will die, that health play rough for sure KO, only b.blade maybe can barely alive. kyorge fainted, groudon still alive, and remember zacian faster than landorus, 2 vs 1 should be easy win. Landorus that health can't take zacian one hit and one earthquake not enough to knocked out both. In the end results also win, but not that risky.
Wow that Gastrodon really did a wonderful job on putting so much pressure on the first match!!! ♥️♥️♥️
Now that’s a finals best of three right there. Now I understand football fans a little better
I was so shocked when Oliver didn’t go for the fake out with incineroar into the zacian
Can some please animate the last two turns of this match!
Never thought I'd root for Zacian! Insane match.
That endgame was epic
It was horrible lol what do you mean
@@jayrollo1352 how was it horrible lol? It was an insane mindgame endgame, really cool to watch if you know what's going on
@@alessiopiscitelli2749 I feel terrible for Oliver because I think he was the better player.
@@jayrollo1352 that doesn't mean the endgame was horrible, it was an extremely intricate endgame and was super cool to watch, as well as the fact that riopaser and owe are both incredible players, I don't think it's fair to call either one the "better player" considering eric just won a regional and got second at internats lol
The rng evens out, misses 90 acc move, successfully 2 protects. Man the thrill
Insaneeeee game! This makes me wanna play VGC. I’m really good at singles, but damnnnn this was so thrilling to watch!
I AM NEW TO THIS TOURNAMENT! what pokemon game they are using to compete in this tournament
Two good teams played great.
Man, the Endgame got me excited as well!!
Sold with the double protect. It was risky but he shouldve went for thunder with rain
Why did he use max guard, a plus 1 landorous is faster than a chaizard.
Does his Landorous have Fly/Bounce? That would have helped when Zacian was protecting.
hindsight innit
You didn’t watch the whole thing right
He has fly as max airstream
Oh damn that last turn
Why didn't he earthquake / thunder on the last turn of rain???
How do you get yawn on gastrodon?
I’m assuming that, if it isn’t a move it could learn at higher levels, I’d assume it’s a TM. I know yawn is a TM in SWSH
You breed it with quagsire
@@anthonylugenbeal7558 ohhh that’s interesting
I was screaming at my screen at some of oliver’s plays in that first match lol
Protect is such thrilling gameplay...
What a way to give up on winning the entire thing lmao
Anyway GG both are insane
I can’t wait for s|v vgc
play rough better than b.blade ?
Anyone know how Wolfey did in this tourney?
9th
Started out with a 7-1 record and went 3-2 against weaker opponents.
The competition is closing the gap and everyone almost uses the same stuff.
He is quickly becoming more of an RUclips personality than a champion
@@jamesc7894 no they were not weak opponents his loses on day 2. For example the last opponent he battled, Guillermo Castilla is a very seasoned player just like wolfey who came in 7th at wolrds back in 2012 the same year that Wolfey got 2nd. Since he came back to compete in the swsh era he's shown to still be a great player.
Thanks for the answers :)
@@jamesc7894 wolfey won 2 games by luck in the day 1 swiss rounds against alex gomez, then he lost to guillermo castilla and Eric rios in day w, he didnt play well thats it
Holy shit I knew who won and I was CLENCHED
How many players participate in this tournament??
About 260 in the masters division
why oliver didn"t max lightening the zacian earlier
Guys I'm not getting how did the landorus die. Can someone help me plz?
Looks like they just cut it there cuz next turn Landorus would have died since Zacian is faster.
Oh yes you're right, thanks
Oliver screwed up with the double Protect. No reason to double Protect at all.
Yea the pressure got to him there, he was playing such a good game up to that
That's true he had 2 mons he could have attacked and win the game. Because zacian can only attack one mon.
It was a 50/50: if he double attacked that turn (EQ+Thunder) and Zacian protects, you just did the final turn one turn earlier. Double attack with Rock Slide risks Zacian picking off the Kyogre and surviving the Rock Slide
If one of Kyogre or Landorus protects and the other attacks, you risk Zacian targeting the attacking one and losing.
If you double protect you end up at the final turn which is another 50/50--EQ knocks out Kyogre if Zacian protects or Rock Slide doesn't knock out Zacian if it KOs the Kyogre and then Zacian wins any 1v1
I think the double protect was expecting a Zacian protect to stall out the last turn of rain so Thunder isn't 100% Acc anymore and Eric called out that prediction
@@netpos6126 Yes I see it now. The last 2 turns was basically left to who ever picked the right play.
@@netpos6126 ty for explaining!
Wow amazing match.
Why did he earthquake at the end I’ve never face palmed so hard
What a great battle!
dude what was the ending! insane!
Great match 👏🏼👏🏼
But wait I don’t understand, after oliver’s landorus used earthquake it did knocked out kyogre and didn’t knocked out eric’s zacian.
How did eric won if oliver’s landorus was still alive?
Zacian was faster than Landorus and would have knocked it out next turn with a Behemoth Blade that has 100% accuracy.
Eh? The ending got cutted, does no one care ?
game 1 looked like a singles game tf
Wow, that lady commentator sure can talk fast.
She's better than rose.
Why did he even use EQ?
Ooooph! Tough first game, gg
Oh gosh, Oliver fell to the pressure. Double protecting is not the way to go in a 1 v 2, especially since Zac doesn't have spread type damage. Oliver should have gone for the earth quake a few turns ago.
agreed, so many turns to click protect earthquake lol
He choked in game one with that max guard too
yeah he made some bad choices that costed the game
@@dredre7990 I guess he was trying to predict Eric max guard Charizard and yawn Landorus, it’s kinda 50/50. The final game though, Zacian was intimidated so Oliver really should gamble on Landorus not being OHKO by Zacian and click earthquake+protect Kyogre when Landorus was relatively healthy.
@@vincentignacio71 no it’s not that easy lol! Zacian outspeeds both so Eric can just target lando and win
Lol that end
5k IQ play from erik !!!
Gastrodon is very good
What a crazy way to lose
World champ diff ba-
oh wolfe's not here?
Can we please get a new team already
Why didn't they use all of their pokemon?
VGC doubles rules are you have a team of 6, which you show your opponent at team preview. Then, based on what your opponent shows you, you pick four of your own, two leads and two held in the back. The actual battle is 4v4. Because it's best of 3, you can change which 4 you bring for the second and third games.
serious? lol
@@mushukotenseii 100% serious. I have never seen a competitive game and have not personally played since HGSS.
Epic!!!!!
Rinya sun is such a brain dead but good team, just spam yawn with gastro and keep it alive to make sure you never lose your sun to max geyeser
cut an event with it then
@@alessiopiscitelli2749 I cut seniors with it, that’s how I know this
wtf oliver could win he was too afraid to miss origin pulse he had to have more trust.
Well, at that point he’d already seen the Play Rough miss come out, whereas thunder in the rain is 100% guaranteed damage and a decent chance to get the para onto Zacian, which would have guaranteed the game.
Oliver’s Kyogre didn’t have Origin Pulse. It’s only water move was Water Spout, which given the Kyogre’s low health, wouldn’t have been enough to put down the Zacian.
@@Scramblepants69 Ah I didn't know that, but isn't it a strange thing to gush if you use life orb? I also played kyogre life orb but with gush but I also had origin pulse because hindsight as you said you would not do more damage because of the life orb. really good games, I would have preferred oliver with kyogre to win since sun wins everything these days.
@@anubis6953 I think the logic is that Water Spout + Life Orb from full or near-full health is so powerful that the recoil from life orb won’t make a huge difference in a quick format like VGC. Like if your health is gonna be lowered so much that Water Spout is useless, that damage isn’t gonna come from Life Orb recoil, it’ll come from damage on the other side, so might as well use life orb to turn it into an absolute nuke while you can. Obviously in the scenario here, Origin Pulse would’ve been more ideal, but it got him to the finals so clearly it served him well for the most part
@@Scramblepants69 Yes, you are right, it gushes at full life or practically sweeps everything away😂
Are Pokemon tournaments always so exciting??? Are Players only think about strategy ????
Zasian is horroble. .
Horrible in a way it breaks the meta
👏🏾
brooooo
Rinya Sun so dominate
Play
Oliver showed a low rank mindset in the last few moves. He had it in his pocket and lost lol
The pressure got to him. He's probably beating himself up for that one. Happens all the time. That's why you always need a cool head.
Y'all are just wrong lol. Zacian KO's lando from there, there was one turn of rain left and thunder would have KO'd zac with thunder. Owe was reading Rios protecting to stall the last turn of rain. If he had clicked earthquake on that turn and Rios had protected (which he thought he would), ogre would die and that would guarantee him the loss. If he clicked rock slide and zacian went after ogre, he lost. If he went for protect on either of his mons and Rios targeted the other he would have lost. It was super mindgame-y and a hard endgame to win, y'all are just talking in hindsight without knowing what you're talking about