This happened to me today, I went triple charm team to just bang out some games in as little time as possible on a star piece and literally 10/10 games were double or triple charm counters, maybe one team had an annihilape and another had an altaria
@@EbiLMunkeYplay magical leaf s.gardevoir. Funny to see opponents get absolutely locked safe-swapping in swamperts, gator or cash. Also you can spam shadow balls faster than charm-triple axles.
Different elo brackets play differently. I see so many ice and fairy types in my lower range, but never see registeel, giratina, and even rarely a dragonite… I wonder if that is what’s going on here
Jonkus, u're such a legit pogo influencer: everytime I see u showcasing some team, I'm going against the featured team at least 1 time per set the same day, it's crazy
I really like this video, cus this gives me and many ppl that are still trying to get better. Showing if the lead is good, neutral, and bad leads. Explaining on what to do or ways to try and win for tips. Ps. Like i always say, work smarter, not harder and much love from Canada ♥️
I have been tearing it up with shadow dragonite and 2 waters, been using a few different options, seems to work great most of the time unless the game finds 3 hard counters which it will do if it can
What do you think about removing % based debuff/buff moves completely from the game? Maybe we could have it like pvpoke does it and implement moves into the game in way that the first move never debuffs and then the second move has a guaranteed debuff (if it was originally a 50% chance, and for the other moves idk, maybe keep all of them like this or make some moves that debuff/buff on the third throw because everything more than that is just irrelevant). I think that mechanic would be interesting because it would add an additional layer of complexity and planning.
Not trying to be the "this entire team loses to X", but what do you do against a charm lead? I want to try it, but fear risking my end of season legend push
I have a few apes built but dont really understand the break points, anyone able to advise which im better of using for GL please? 5/15/12 1/12/5 4/15/13
Shadow Dragonite is superior in every way because you really need the fast move damage from Dragon Breath; normal one unfortunately just doesn’t hit as hard and thus not as oppressive against those fire/grass/water/electric matchups
Rank 1 is good for general matchups I believe, you’d require different IV spreads to defeat Lickitung and also the Annihilape mirror. You could build another attack-weighted Anni while also keeping the defense as high as possible specifically for these two matchups, Mankey spawns appear to be quite common and honestly it doesn’t cost much to build the Ape
Just built one yesterday. Saw 3 Dewgong leads in one set and decided to temporarily bench the dragon for the sake of my mental health.
This happened to me today, I went triple charm team to just bang out some games in as little time as possible on a star piece and literally 10/10 games were double or triple charm counters, maybe one team had an annihilape and another had an altaria
This team should handle dewgong leads pretty well tho
The Algo-Monster lives
@@EbiLMunkeYplay magical leaf s.gardevoir. Funny to see opponents get absolutely locked safe-swapping in swamperts, gator or cash. Also you can spam shadow balls faster than charm-triple axles.
Creators like jonkus control the meta way more than pvpoke rankings atp 😂 i wouldn't be surprised if you ran this and got countered every battle
More vids like this please! I found it useful hearing about how to better read teams and make adjustments to your gameplay based off opponent leads
I know if I run this team I will instantly get a wigglytuff lead multiple times with annihilape in the back
Different elo brackets play differently. I see so many ice and fairy types in my lower range, but never see registeel, giratina, and even rarely a dragonite… I wonder if that is what’s going on here
Jonkus, u're such a legit pogo influencer: everytime I see u showcasing some team, I'm going against the featured team at least 1 time per set the same day, it's crazy
Really great break downs on these battles. There are somethings you think of that would never crossed my mind. Thanks for sharing your greatness 🙇♂️
Thanks for the video; that Anapalap/Tina boostfest was a giggle :)
I really like this video, cus this gives me and many ppl that are still trying to get better. Showing if the lead is good, neutral, and bad leads. Explaining on what to do or ways to try and win for tips.
Ps. Like i always say, work smarter, not harder and much love from Canada ♥️
I like the way you did the layout showing good and bad leads in order
I have been tearing it up with shadow dragonite and 2 waters, been using a few different options, seems to work great most of the time unless the game finds 3 hard counters which it will do if it can
How can you say you had bad luck? You didnt even have one fairy/Charm lead...or am I missing sth?
What do you think about removing % based debuff/buff moves completely from the game? Maybe we could have it like pvpoke does it and implement moves into the game in way that the first move never debuffs and then the second move has a guaranteed debuff (if it was originally a 50% chance, and for the other moves idk, maybe keep all of them like this or make some moves that debuff/buff on the third throw because everything more than that is just irrelevant). I think that mechanic would be interesting because it would add an additional layer of complexity and planning.
Not trying to be the "this entire team loses to X", but what do you do against a charm lead? I want to try it, but fear risking my end of season legend push
I have a few apes built but dont really understand the break points, anyone able to advise which im better of using for GL please?
5/15/12
1/12/5
4/15/13
Check out SwagTips he did a deep dive of Ape's IV break points for a better understanding.
is it still really good to run normal dragonite instead of the shadow one?
That 1% double omni boost is cra cra 💀
When i build my team from a youtube video. I am preparing my self to lose my elo 😅 dewgong starters made me crazy 4 in a raw
Charm doesnt exist 😅
First battle with this team: Shadow Alolan Ninetales lead. And then the game froze during a charge move. Figures.
I need goodra team?
Do you have a suggestion for replacing registeel? I am looking at skarmory. Recently caught a decent shadow dragonite, so wanna use it:)
What do u do vs fairy lead?
Lose, lol
Would normal Dragonite be a good second option instead of the the shadow? I still need to get a good iv shadow Dragonite.
No
i think for a dragonite shadow actually matters quite a lot
Shadow Dragonite is superior in every way because you really need the fast move damage from Dragon Breath; normal one unfortunately just doesn’t hit as hard and thus not as oppressive against those fire/grass/water/electric matchups
I swear content creators have the best of luck on leads
Imagine being in the High Elo still using Bastio/Wigs/Tropi or Ape. You'd figure you'd only see that still in the 2300s.
why it’s a really solid team ?
@en20drayt87 That team is more of a toxic team. There's also one with Wigglituff and shadow Victorybell.
@@Denizozzzy003 yea it’s called grasshole, lots of variations
I’ve seen that team all the way from 2100s to 2900s and it makes me rage equally every time I face it.
I have a rank 1 annihilape, I think (2-15-15)
Would I be better off with a different IV spread then? Just assumed rank 1 was the best
Use it it's the best.
Rank 1 is good for general matchups I believe, you’d require different IV spreads to defeat Lickitung and also the Annihilape mirror. You could build another attack-weighted Anni while also keeping the defense as high as possible specifically for these two matchups, Mankey spawns appear to be quite common and honestly it doesn’t cost much to build the Ape
If I had a dollar for every time he was relying on a debuff to carry him in a game, I'd be able to buy niantic and fix the game
Wigglytuff lead says "Hi".
You insist on using the word wall and hard wall wrong. Gligar doesn’t wall Annihilape since it takes neutral damage from its charge moves…
HI
Walrein - Mandibuzz - Clodisre
Use this if you face that team
Wiggly doesn’t exist
Just tried this in 2200MMR and went 0-5, don;t believe the hype!
if ur 2200 and have these pokemon built it’s a skill issue
That point range is going to be a different meta then what Jonkus is facing.
@@Denizozzzy003 totally agree, wanted to highlight it that's all :)
@@en20drayt87 no its a total hard counter issue lol
@@adamshelton7308 🤦♂️
Not good against my team,, water/ice,, fire/rock,,air/ice
you’d get absolutely wrecked by my team though - Basti/fighter/fighter