For people saying J. Cole doesn't hold himself accountable, what does accountability look like to you? To me, it looks like standing in front of the world on stage acknowledging how corny and disingenuous the move was to make a diss record to someone you considered a friend because friends and media pressured him into it and acknowledging that there was no truth is what he said about Kendrick's discography. It looks like acknowledging that he had gone off his original desired path of simply wanting to make great music that helps people through life and having fun while doing it. For him, that's what hiphop was always about. He also acknowledges the competitive edge of the genre but states that it doesn't mean he has to dig up dirt and mudsling on a diss record in order to compete. He never said he didn't throw the first official shot. He never said he was never involved. He stated that he fell to the pressure and wants to pivot into a more peaceful phase in his life leading into the fall off. That sounds like accountability and maturity.
@@mahlatsescotch7291 When did he switch? Does saying "I never beef with a nga for nothing If I smoke a rapper it's gon be legit" sound like switching up? Does saying "Behind Drake and Dot yeah them ngas is superstars to me" sound like switching up? All he said in the song was that if he lost the battle, he wouldn't have cared about losing the battle but would've cared about losing a bro. Y'all js can't comprehend basic english and run with whatever narrative y'all see
@@mahlatsescotch7291j Cole only dropped the diss cuz he thought they were gonna be lyrically sparring. Not on that bs the beef turned into where k dot and Drake was running each others career and shi
@@5.7l.Alexxx he deleted the diss track and apologized way before it went down that way. King Kendrick also warned the PDF file boy never to dare go down that road knowing very well it's his dirty inclination. Cole came back after the war is done, and acted tough as if he had it in him to stand like a man. Y'all are just clowns defending the likes of the circus 🤣🤣🤣
Yo….this is EXACTLY what I have always been telling people! You really explained all of this so well and put the perfect clips together! I hope this perspective spreads wildly. Thanks for taking the time to make this.
They r choosing not to understand him on purpose…It’s crazy to see but I’m still a fan for Jermaine..Was a fan before people even wanted to mess with him in the beginning 💯✌🏾
This kind of opinion wins in time. Maybe not now. This is going to be a major reference material for sure. You are a real one for giving us this essay. God bless.
I loved this video and agree with the majority of your points. I think most people who are misinterpreting “Port Antonio” didn’t ever like Cole anyway, or were never gonna get over his attempting to diss Kendrick. Lol. Since it was lame (it wouldn’t have been that bad if it was coming from someone else, but J. Cole is an Elite Lyricist with a Degree in Communication and already made “False Prophets,” “Snow on the Bluff,” etc) so it was viewed as if he only took it down because it wasn’t well received. But I think he really just regretted putting out there and was truly losing sleep. Lol. He said in the past that he would NOT diss anyone he didn’t have a real problem with. That’s the real reason why “7 minute dril” was mediocre in comparison to “False Prophets.” He had a REAL issue with how Kanye was moving! Kendrick is my GOAT, Cole is #2 to me. Their fan bases usually have a lot of crossover, they are very similar. Which why Cole was able to ask his crowd “how many of y’all think Kendrick Lamar is one of the greatest to ever touch a microphone?” And they went crazy. It is very rare That you like Kendrick and hate Cole, and vice versa. Cole fans were DEVASTATED on YT when Kendrick jabbed at Cole on “Like That.” Lol! They thought they were friends and didn’t understand why he would do such a heinous act. LOL! Which is why I have been outraged that everyone has been acting like Cole is more like Drake than Kendrick since all this has happened!
Actual Kendrick fans literally NEVER in 10+ years had a problem with Cole. No one knows where all these so called "Kendrick Fans" came up from hating on Cole
Agree with your perspective! But, the perception that he took 7MD down because of its negative perception is plainly false since he still got Grippy up!! LOLOLOL. Cole is my GOAT and I think Kendrick is amazing. Cole exiting the group chat was so on brand for him. I'm so impressed and inspired by his maturity. I look forward to future Cole/Kendrick collabs.
@@kimzziereenee1638 LOL! I thought Grippy was really someone else’s song and Cole was the featured artist. If so, I don’t think he could make that call even if he wanted to. Idk what Cole was thinking with that. Maybe he thought it would be a great idea to do something less lyrical and “fun” for the folks who aren’t into the lyrical miracle stuff. Lol! I only like Future on songs with my favorite Artists like Kendrick, Chloe, etc. He’s the Toxic King. Lol!
Dawg I appreciate this video fr J. Cole is one underestimated and misunderstood dude but throughout time he gone have a lot of mfs looking stupid when he drops The Fall Off and after it
I don't think Cole is talking about the media, I think Cole is specifically talking about Jay-Z and the profit he'll see directly from this beef. The song has a Jay-Z beat flip, he's using a Jay-Z flow, and there's several plays on Jay-Z songs in it. Imo the song is about manipulative music executives who stand to gain a lot more than these media personalities off 1: rappers beefing and 2: making infinitely more money from dead artists than alive ones. EDIT: Cole was right, Kendrick's last album was tragic. It did great and was a masterful album about tragedy. That's not a diss.
Yep--you are exactly right about Cole's perspective on Kendrick's last album--it was a tragedy. So when you go back to that line about his discography--he didn't lie.
I said this on another video and i’ll say it again. When he said, "I wouldn't lost a battle dawg, I would've lost a bro," people think he's still being competitive, which is honestly dumb and just shows they don't get Cole's character. He’s really saying, if he won the battle, at what cost? Or if he lost, it’s not like he’d care about the battle itself-he’d feel like he lost his brother over some social media clout. It's clear he doesn't care about the battle, but of course, the people thinking he's being competitive are the same ones taking his mention of blood literally. Just proves they don’t get his lyrics.
7 min drill is no different than the og version of Dot’s element song flat out disses Big Sean. Sean ran a press run based on Dot’s apology. Why would Dot apologized for a song he made?… Sean said he would be ready for a battle with Dot, well where was all the media fuss when Sean said he wasn’t talking about after No more Interviews?… what about the Holy Key fade?…
Nah, Cole takes himself way to serious. He wonders why he gets competitive but that's the nature of the culture. At least Drake died on his pen, but Cole gives me Jay Z vibes. Never the best but in the conversation. Get out da way Cole anit nobody looking for that lukewarm ish we're here for blood 😂
But it isn't delusional though, when tupac and biggie were beefing and pac got shot, everyone was like "again??" Noone thought that was ever gonna go anywhere until it did Drake's mansion has had multiple people trying to raid it for weeks when Not Like Us came out. If drake didn't keep his safety on alert he would get swiss cheesed, i think the only dishonesty from cole is that he thinks he can win against kendrick, hes not lying or being delusional about anything other than that.
@@scumpergumper not sure how old you are but Pac getting shot had nothing to do with Biggie. And we all knew that the beef would lead up to something which ended with Biggie getting shot
Regardless of how beautiful this video is I stand that J Cole has through stones and hit his hands for the longest and every time that he is in the wrong he does not stand or hold itself accountable he runs from things and that's always try to please everybody including Kendrick and Drake
I think Big Sean throws stones and hides this hands. He acts like he was never dissing at all, and there was never an issue. I think J. Cole Stands on what he say (said he stands by everything he said in “snow on the bluff.” Lol), he just is willing to make amends. Also, he didn’t deny dissing Kanye, he said the song wasn’t about Kanye, that a portion applies to him, because he also dissed his boy, Wale. Lol. And was talking about false prophets, plural. Not just Kanye.
Yup thats why noone takes him seriously. Gotta stand on what you say regardless if it's friends or family . Stand for something or fall for anything @@LeonaHeart
This is a huge lie. Name one example of him "throwing stones" Is it saying he's the best like every rapper ever? Or is it him saying that no one can mess with him and his squad including Drake and Kendrick. However you slice it, you'd be saying that Kendrick also throws rocks and hides his hands
No he hasn't bro, Cole raps hard LIKE EVERY OTHER RAPPER, LITERALLY EVERY OTHER RAPPER DOES WHAT COLE DOES. its just weird coming from cole bc hes the corny positive guy.
We have always understood J Cole... That's why everybody kept saying "we understand why J Cole apologized and we're sorry for clowning him" What we don't understand is why he had to include us in this voice note to Drake? And 5 months after the beef? One tends to wonder if this is his way of trying to get some hype off of his upcoming album seeing that both Drake and Kendrick now have the spotlight on them🤔 And for that, it makes J Cole a punk
He said he wouldn't beef about nothing. Him leaving the beef hurt his career more. If he was scared he wouldn't have backed out. It takes a man to realize you made a mistake and call yourself out for your own wrongdoings, even if it's embarrassing. He's very mature
For people saying J. Cole doesn't hold himself accountable, what does accountability look like to you? To me, it looks like standing in front of the world on stage acknowledging how corny and disingenuous the move was to make a diss record to someone you considered a friend because friends and media pressured him into it and acknowledging that there was no truth is what he said about Kendrick's discography. It looks like acknowledging that he had gone off his original desired path of simply wanting to make great music that helps people through life and having fun while doing it. For him, that's what hiphop was always about. He also acknowledges the competitive edge of the genre but states that it doesn't mean he has to dig up dirt and mudsling on a diss record in order to compete. He never said he didn't throw the first official shot. He never said he was never involved. He stated that he fell to the pressure and wants to pivot into a more peaceful phase in his life leading into the fall off. That sounds like accountability and maturity.
He switches a lot. That's all what's concerning.
@@mahlatsescotch7291 When did he switch? Does saying
"I never beef with a nga for nothing
If I smoke a rapper it's gon be legit"
sound like switching up? Does saying
"Behind Drake and Dot yeah them ngas is superstars to me"
sound like switching up?
All he said in the song was that if he lost the battle, he wouldn't have cared about losing the battle but would've cared about losing a bro. Y'all js can't comprehend basic english and run with whatever narrative y'all see
@@xtremezmc443 Open your ears more and you'll hear clearer.
@@mahlatsescotch7291j Cole only dropped the diss cuz he thought they were gonna be lyrically sparring. Not on that bs the beef turned into where k dot and Drake was running each others career and shi
@@5.7l.Alexxx he deleted the diss track and apologized way before it went down that way. King Kendrick also warned the PDF file boy never to dare go down that road knowing very well it's his dirty inclination. Cole came back after the war is done, and acted tough as if he had it in him to stand like a man. Y'all are just clowns defending the likes of the circus 🤣🤣🤣
Yo….this is EXACTLY what I have always been telling people! You really explained all of this so well and put the perfect clips together! I hope this perspective spreads wildly. Thanks for taking the time to make this.
Big Facts 💪🏾
This generation ain’t grown enough to get know cole
They r choosing not to understand him on purpose…It’s crazy to see but I’m still a fan for Jermaine..Was a fan before people even wanted to mess with him in the beginning 💯✌🏾
This kind of opinion wins in time. Maybe not now. This is going to be a major reference material for sure. You are a real one for giving us this essay. God bless.
I loved this video and agree with the majority of your points. I think most people who are misinterpreting “Port Antonio” didn’t ever like Cole anyway, or were never gonna get over his attempting to diss Kendrick. Lol. Since it was lame (it wouldn’t have been that bad if it was coming from someone else, but J. Cole is an Elite Lyricist with a Degree in Communication and already made “False Prophets,” “Snow on the Bluff,” etc) so it was viewed as if he only took it down because it wasn’t well received. But I think he really just regretted putting out there and was truly losing sleep. Lol. He said in the past that he would NOT diss anyone he didn’t have a real problem with. That’s the real reason why “7 minute dril” was mediocre in comparison to “False Prophets.” He had a REAL issue with how Kanye was moving!
Kendrick is my GOAT, Cole is #2 to me. Their fan bases usually have a lot of crossover, they are very similar. Which why Cole was able to ask his crowd “how many of y’all think Kendrick Lamar is one of the greatest to ever touch a microphone?” And they went crazy. It is very rare That you like Kendrick and hate Cole, and vice versa. Cole fans were DEVASTATED on YT when Kendrick jabbed at Cole on “Like That.” Lol! They thought they were friends and didn’t understand why he would do such a heinous act. LOL! Which is why I have been outraged that everyone has been acting like Cole is more like Drake than Kendrick since all this has happened!
Actual Kendrick fans literally NEVER in 10+ years had a problem with Cole. No one knows where all these so called "Kendrick Fans" came up from hating on Cole
Facts man, Cole and Kendrick still 🔥 both of them.
@@xtremezmc443 I agree & also I don’t know where these new found fans came from but a lot of the trolling is bot behavior if u ask me..🤷🏾♀️
Agree with your perspective! But, the perception that he took 7MD down because of its negative perception is plainly false since he still got Grippy up!! LOLOLOL. Cole is my GOAT and I think Kendrick is amazing. Cole exiting the group chat was so on brand for him. I'm so impressed and inspired by his maturity. I look forward to future Cole/Kendrick collabs.
@@kimzziereenee1638 LOL! I thought Grippy was really someone else’s song and Cole was the featured artist. If so, I don’t think he could make that call even if he wanted to. Idk what Cole was thinking with that. Maybe he thought it would be a great idea to do something less lyrical and “fun” for the folks who aren’t into the lyrical miracle stuff. Lol! I only like Future on songs with my favorite Artists like Kendrick, Chloe, etc. He’s the Toxic King. Lol!
THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING NOTE TO SELF. It was a foreshadow for sure made 10 years ago.
Sneaking Kenny Lofton in at the end was beautiful
I see your channel reaching 100k subs…your edits are 🔥
Dawg I appreciate this video fr J. Cole is one underestimated and misunderstood dude but throughout time he gone have a lot of mfs looking stupid when he drops The Fall Off and after it
Yo my nigga you UP! Great breakdown wit a real interior prospective
I don't think Cole is talking about the media, I think Cole is specifically talking about Jay-Z and the profit he'll see directly from this beef. The song has a Jay-Z beat flip, he's using a Jay-Z flow, and there's several plays on Jay-Z songs in it. Imo the song is about manipulative music executives who stand to gain a lot more than these media personalities off 1: rappers beefing and 2: making infinitely more money from dead artists than alive ones.
EDIT: Cole was right, Kendrick's last album was tragic. It did great and was a masterful album about tragedy. That's not a diss.
Yep--you are exactly right about Cole's perspective on Kendrick's last album--it was a tragedy. So when you go back to that line about his discography--he didn't lie.
I said this on another video and i’ll say it again. When he said, "I wouldn't lost a battle dawg, I would've lost a bro," people think he's still being competitive, which is honestly dumb and just shows they don't get Cole's character. He’s really saying, if he won the battle, at what cost? Or if he lost, it’s not like he’d care about the battle itself-he’d feel like he lost his brother over some social media clout. It's clear he doesn't care about the battle, but of course, the people thinking he's being competitive are the same ones taking his mention of blood literally. Just proves they don’t get his lyrics.
6:05 i’m glad you caught it too! i wrote my comment before that part
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Beautiful video!
Shout out to you ram you kept it real without the BS hating
Great video 🔥🔥
For the most part everything you said was true
RUclips.com/@ScruFaceJeanOfficial he ain’t wrong tho
7 min drill is no different than the og version of Dot’s element song flat out disses Big Sean. Sean ran a press run based on Dot’s apology. Why would Dot apologized for a song he made?… Sean said he would be ready for a battle with Dot, well where was all the media fuss when Sean said he wasn’t talking about after No more Interviews?… what about the Holy Key fade?…
can u make more rap videos or Cole videos
Nah, Cole takes himself way to serious. He wonders why he gets competitive but that's the nature of the culture. At least Drake died on his pen, but Cole gives me Jay Z vibes. Never the best but in the conversation. Get out da way Cole anit nobody looking for that lukewarm ish we're here for blood 😂
6:26 Kendrick wasn't with the disrespect
Problem Port Antonio is his lack of honest or delusion with what we saw happen.
But it isn't delusional though, when tupac and biggie were beefing and pac got shot, everyone was like "again??" Noone thought that was ever gonna go anywhere until it did Drake's mansion has had multiple people trying to raid it for weeks when Not Like Us came out. If drake didn't keep his safety on alert he would get swiss cheesed, i think the only dishonesty from cole is that he thinks he can win against kendrick, hes not lying or being delusional about anything other than that.
@scumpergumper how's that a lie?
@@scumpergumper not sure how old you are but Pac getting shot had nothing to do with Biggie. And we all knew that the beef would lead up to something which ended with Biggie getting shot
@@scumpergumper also his memory of what happened is what’s delusional. He started it, he back out cause he was told to not become he was wise.
@@dtbrindle6733how did cole start when kendrick threw the first shot with "like that "
Regardless of how beautiful this video is I stand that J Cole has through stones and hit his hands for the longest and every time that he is in the wrong he does not stand or hold itself accountable he runs from things and that's always try to please everybody including Kendrick and Drake
I think Big Sean throws stones and hides this hands. He acts like he was never dissing at all, and there was never an issue. I think J. Cole Stands on what he say (said he stands by everything he said in “snow on the bluff.” Lol), he just is willing to make amends. Also, he didn’t deny dissing Kanye, he said the song wasn’t about Kanye, that a portion applies to him, because he also dissed his boy, Wale. Lol. And was talking about false prophets, plural. Not just Kanye.
Yup thats why noone takes him seriously. Gotta stand on what you say regardless if it's friends or family . Stand for something or fall for anything @@LeonaHeart
This is a huge lie. Name one example of him "throwing stones"
Is it saying he's the best like every rapper ever? Or is it him saying that no one can mess with him and his squad including Drake and Kendrick. However you slice it, you'd be saying that Kendrick also throws rocks and hides his hands
No he hasn't bro, Cole raps hard LIKE EVERY OTHER RAPPER, LITERALLY EVERY OTHER RAPPER DOES WHAT COLE DOES. its just weird coming from cole bc hes the corny positive guy.
So, you didn’t learn a thing from this video? Wow!
Can you still make that video talking about when Cole wanted that recognition so much?
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We have always understood J Cole... That's why everybody kept saying "we understand why J Cole apologized and we're sorry for clowning him"
What we don't understand is why he had to include us in this voice note to Drake? And 5 months after the beef?
One tends to wonder if this is his way of trying to get some hype off of his upcoming album seeing that both Drake and Kendrick now have the spotlight on them🤔
And for that, it makes J Cole a punk
He ain’t a punk cause you think he did something for a certain reason goofy, that’s real egotistical of you
He said he wouldn't beef about nothing. Him leaving the beef hurt his career more. If he was scared he wouldn't have backed out. It takes a man to realize you made a mistake and call yourself out for your own wrongdoings, even if it's embarrassing. He's very mature
The ability to misinterpret is impressive.
Yow @Curtisking