3.21 PTU Does she fit? - What ships can carry a Storm tank
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- Опубликовано: 13 ноя 2023
- 3.21 PTU Does she fit? - What ships can carry a Storm tank
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They actually made the light scout tank wider than the heavy tank that is supposed to more and heavier armour... And if you look at the interior space to the sides then the only reason for the mid section to be as wide as it is is the three components at the back which could be solved by rotating the shield by 90 degrees to save some width if you don't want to touch the sides for estetic reasons. That could save at least the 0.5 meter to get it equal to the Nova and fitting in the same ships that currently can carry a heavy tank...
Yup it's stupid but it looks cool, idk if it looks Tumbril tho, even if they r going by rule of cool the Tumbril designs have always been a bit less sci-fi, I mean the Nova looks like a bad Sci-Fi Merkava, whereas the Storm looks like a Command & Conquer unit (kinda like the Nod stealth tank especially the AA version)
I was about to say something like "isn't it supposed to be a light tank?"
to be fair. the components do need to face you in that direction because they are intended to open up and have replicable/repairable parts within the component itself. so being sideways would require some sort of tray to pop them out to be accessible from the correct side.
they never said a small tank... @@guynamedmaggi5520
This huge width is all the more stupid as what is really great in SC is the possibility to put vehicles in ships. By artificially limiting to very few ships compatible with it, they obviously will limit its use for players. No player will buy or use it if it does not have one of the three big and costly ship needed.
My metric for these has always been "could you get it in on the first try while under fire from a hostile light fighter?" And for both the Nova and the Storm the answer is only yes with the C2.
Which begs the question: why would you choose this over the Nova? If the only thing that can really carry it is still a C2, why not bring more firepower, more shielding, more passenger space...etc? Sure, the Storm is faster, but if you just want speed, grab a Cyclone-MT or an Ursa.
The Storm was clearly designed to be an LTI token. Nobody would actually use this in any game where the Nova exists.
Different frames for different mission perimeters. A single passenger support craft is sometimes more valuable than a multi-passenger assault vehicle.
@@ATigerShark But again, it fits in the same amount of ships as its roomier, more armored brother, why even bring it at all? its D.O.A imo
@@shawcobra You need fewer personnel to optimally man it. It's a great ground escort.
@austinm5630 your metrics are very interesting, I kinda like it.
I usually draw the line at: "Can I get in and out without having to try 5 times?"
Good point. The storm should really have been designed to fit in the valkyrie. Its even more useless if it can't carry a light tank. But this is just another example on an ongoing issue with CIG not making vehicles fit in ships they should be paired with. Such as, all medium sized explorer ships like the 400i should be able to fit an URSA since its the only explorer vehicle with an enclosed cab, which is needed for exploring harsh environments.
Kind of a bummer when the only 1 ship in the game i actually capable of carrying vehicles efficiently , so if you want to use big vehicles there is no other option than a C2 .
And that's totally fine.
Who puts the glad in gladiator?
Strong agree. On paper I really like the Hercules series of ships but I've got so bored of seeing them around that I've come to loathe them. There's just nothing that beats them as a dropship OR a cargo ship. They're faster, tougher, and move more cargo than the nearest equivilent ship in the cargo category (caterpillar). If a combat ship were that much better at all aspects of combat than the others, you can bet people would be whining about it (and they do. See gladius).
believe it or not it does fit in the corsair if you reverse into it, cant walk past it tho so you need someone else to fly. without having to ram into it btw.
fully agree - the fact that it can't fit in the Valkyrie is a total dealbreaker - glad i didn't get one...
Breaks my bad how CIG is doing the Valk dirty. Marketted as a "heavy" dropship and yet the heaviest vehicle it can drop right now is an ursa.
In fact, any vehicle can fit in any ship, with enough speed.
I have a corsair and a valkyrie, I never though my corsair would be able to move ground vehicles better than my valk.
Right? Valk needs some love from CIG desperately at this point
yeah it feels like the valk is just way too overpriced for what it is, a decently armored troop carrier and thats it, the entire back is basically just useless for 90% of the stuff@@gojiradropkick9447
yeah valkyrie vanish from VHRT mission because is was too easy to kill, no fire power, no speed, no so much lige, it's just a flying coffin.
I know one thing the Storm does not fit: My budget.
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Buy it ingame... (in the future)
Me eyeing the Polaris…. Yea….
No worries, It's fit my luxury 600ie yacht. 😊
I think CIG shot the Storm sales in the foot by making it so wide. If it doesn’t fit many current citizens ships, we’re not going to pledge it. Maybe it will make more sense 5-10 years from now.
Interesting about Corsair as it was stated in the Q&A to fit there.
LOL
Given how it's just wide enough to not fit while having a hilariously wide design, I think it's a very safe bet to say it got this wide in order to not fit in "cheap" ships.
Typical CIG, can't expect more from a company that sells ships "exclusive" to only the most dedicated backers to everyone. Looking at you, F8C
to be honest the valk isnt even a real cheap ship, its pretty expensive for all the shit it can actually do
Nah, this one wasn't a marketing decision. Too much effort. Marketing decisions are more like the C8X, the Cyclone MT, the Ares being variants, ... Low effort straight upgrades, unnecessary limitations. At least not wanting tanks to fit in most ships has a gameplay reason.
Should of tried the connie Phoenix as it has a wider bay, but that turret is sure to hit the roof if it can fit.
CIG is well known for not giving pre-requisites to their artists and designers.
So I tried that, it’s like extremely close to fitting. Enough so that power cycling the turret can get it in and out, it will start clipping around lightly when the bay is shut. I managed to put it in, fly to 3 different moons around the system to take out and put it back in with almost no issue.
I’m not known for my luck so I’m taking this as a win for storing the storm in it. At least for this patch.
@@DarkMoonZoroark Thanks for testing that. Considering the empty body of the tank I'm surprised they didn't make the turret at least partially retract.
This is another CIG Special.. It looks cool so screw standardization! Oops, it doesn't fit into very much.. Sorry!
Corsair might fit easier when driving in backwards, that would move the hitbox of the gun and allow driving up the ramp regularly.
@da7thguest but then you cannot get into the cockpit.
Corsair has an elevator, doesn't she
@@da7thguest True, but that's not really something one would like to do under fire. It would only work for deployment in safe areas. So no combat drops and the like.
@da7thguest yes you are correct, I forgot about this, sorry.
I beg to differ, you want to drive off fast when you deliver it to combat, not the other way around.
Again with a little bit of research they could have averaged out those hanger sizes for more things are universal. They had access to all of this.
This would have needed some planning and a clear vision to do that. CIG clearly do not have. For instance, the tractor beam was a sudden improvisation in fact and is now a defining thing of the game. Remember that the size of cargo was not well defined. The m,ining container are even not compatible just as the size of the components ... And thye hae said that Xian ships will use triangular cargo !!!
@sebc8938 CIG never has a plan, CIG never thinks things through, CIG never thinks in advance.
Why should they? Money comes in big time anyway.
And the Railen is perfect for transporting Toblerone :)
I have never heard of you until now.
Perfectly placed Oddball reference noted, subscribed.
Nice, I have a Carrack and happy it fits! Thanks for this video
Just FYI, once the Storm is in the Corsair you can easily jump onto the Storm and walk to the front. Same in reverse. You can also crawl underneath,
The Storm is the worst vehicle ive ever seen in this game. its been deliberately designed to not fit in anything *BUY OUR EXPENSIVE SHIPS TO CARRY IT OR GO F YOURSELF* its design completely fails all tank design metrics. It would need to be AT MINIMUM 2/3 of the size it is right now to make it not completely atrocious. But that only would solve the logistical ability of the vehicle and NONE of the other 100000 issues with the design. absolutely dreadful.
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Please, all go to spectrum and ASK: "Did you purposefully design a light tank to not fit obvious ships?"
@AKARazorback either;
-CIG did make the storm and other vehicles way too big, so only a few ships can carry certain vehicles
-or CIG are the worst vehicle designers ever
I don't know which is worse :)
@Camural I know man, same with the Atlas platform not fitting the Carrack, EVEN THOUGH ITS THE SAME MANUFACTURER and THEY'RE BOTH MADE FOR MILITARY so dumb
It is still a tank and it got huge armor. So, should we make it fittable in Cutlass black for example? Of course not, so everybody will bring them on ground missions. The current set of vehicle design is pretty perfect. Yeah it still fits corsair, but it can be easily ganked, compared to more fast ships.
@danyagamingone it's a light tank that has worse and bigger dimensions than modern real life main battle tanks. It's absolutely a childs understanding of a tank. Even if it fit in some smaller ships, if CIG programmed in real physics, they shouldnt be able to operate in atmosphere or even in space as well with all the extra weight/mass. This 100% looks like the designers had no idea what it would or wouldn't fit in and just made something that looks kinda cool.
@@snoop_lion game designers need to make some adjustments so components and Michelin-man players can fit in.
However, there is no reason a light tank should be that big. The Storm tank is bigger than a WW2 Maus, which was a terrible design.
Chris only cares about rule-of-cool.
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good vid ,, would have liked to have seen how well it fit in the drake backwards
Good stuff Cam :)
Thank you. Helped me decide to not get one. A light tank should fit on a Valkyrie, but I was hoping for it to fit in the MSR and/or Conni (bit of wishful thinking).
the valkyrie is very sad love the design but dont fint it practical when it would have fit inside i mostlikey had upgraded to it because the storm is until now my favorit land vehicel design vice exept for the ranger that isnt going to be ingame for more than 1-2 years
Maybe when it get's its armor.
Danke für die Experimente!
That is insane. Thanks.
I like how we have a military vehicle transport that's too small to transport any of the three military vehicles (to me the other ones are either mostly for science or just off road cars like the Cyclone serise, I know they have guns but then so did the Toyota Land Cruiser)
Thank you for the video! Maybe CIG secretly plans on implementing a "lube-simulation-package" for the Valkyrie, which will be available for just 6.99€ (vehicle-skin specific, VAT not included). 😉
Will also fit in the front module of a Caterpillar, and a Connie Pheonix.
Looks like it fits in the Corsair but very tight
Form over function. Nothing new for CIG I guess.
Its truly embarrassing
I'd like to see a ship that can pick up and haul ground vehicles externally with a maglock or tractor beam or something, like how the LAATs from Star Wars carried AT-TEs.
RAFT variant would be perfect, that thing is basically a space ship version of the Sikorsky S-64 as it is.
This would be logic for an assault ship to move a vehicle with its tractor beam instead of using a complex ramp that takes time to operate and need to land the ship ...
Would love a Valk variant like that. Could work similarly to the Pelican dropships from Halo
i was thinking with rope physics and stuff, to be able to have like underslung vehicles, like a chinook or an osprey
I wanted a light tank to fit in alot of our ships maybe someday ill be blessed with a solo ship that could fit a vehicle like the storm inside it
It was told that the Constellation Phoenix might fit it. I melted mine so I cannot test it, can someone test it if you have access to the storm plz?
I hope they widen the valkyrie a bit on gold pass or at least the ramp so it can fit the storm because that would work very well together
@phizzyx4279 I think CIG should start to design vehicles that are not comically large.
The "light" Storm tank is 7.5m wide, it would need 3 street lanes.
If CIG is concerned what ships can carry what vehicle, CIG should make it mass based, not comically inflate vehicles.
Storm doesn't even have an interior.
Actually have you tried the Connie Phoenix it actually has a wider ramp then the Taurus and andromeda
I still love my Taurus. Thankfully I'm not much for tanks. I'm an explorer more than a fighter (mainly because I suck and offer money with humour if threatned).
I wanna know if you can cram one of these into each of the holds of a Cat so we can turn it into a Q-ship. It's pretty ridiculous how wide this thing is...
Im curious does it fit inside the Freelancer max.
The Corsair might be able to fit the AA maybe?
thanks for doing this for me, i appreciate it.
this tank is kinda shit tbh, it doesn't matter how powerful it is if nothing can carry it besides the C2 series and carrak lol
for corsaire may be the AA :)
Think it would fit in the 890 cargo elevator? Seems like it based on dimensions.
@SpaceTed I think so since a Nova tank fits there.
sad the Phoenix wasnt tested. but it might have a height issue, Phoenix constellations actually have a wider elevator then all other versions by atleast a meter or two
Really dissatisfied that it doesn't fit in the valk. That would be the perfect combination
How sad is it that none of the anvil vehicles are designed to fit in the anvil Valkyrie. Kind of ironic
Given the length only 1 in the corsair?
And they previously stated that the Storm would have been able to fit inside a Valkyrie and Corsair....so even though it did fit the Corsair, it barely did and the Valk was a straightout failure. They need to decresce the size of this thing. It's way too large for what it is. No reason for it to not fit in an MSR and Valkyrie.
@gabzsy4924 vehicles in Star Citizen are comically large.
The "light" Storm tank is bigger than a world war 2 super heavy Maus.
Storm tank is 7.5m wide and would need 3 lanes in a city.
Can you put it in a cat’s module area?
I would recocomend trying the connie phoenix as it has a wider bay than the taurus
I did it, doesn't work ruclips.net/video/mv8FU6s4EgE/видео.htmlsi=kbe-5Bl9olGy6lIY
You said the Valk "should easily fit a light tank" a dropship that specifically is stated to be able to fit "ground-based transport or reconnaissance vehicles" a tank is none of those things. Realistically the valk would be ideal for mechanized infantry movements, which the largest thing they would have would be the equivalent to a cyclone. I don't see a nova fitting into a Valk being logical in any way, maybe a Cyclone (or 2) with a 20 man platoon makes sense from a military perspective. I also don't see why an MSR "SHOULD BE ABLE TO" fit a light tank. It's meant to be a medium cargo or data running ship, not a tank transporter. Not to mention the bay that the vehicles would fit into is the cargo bay, with full cargo I don't think ANY vehicles would it in it. As a matter of fact, the 2 ships that you were able to get the tank into easily are in fact the only 2 ships in the list that actually make sense to be able to fit them easily. Remember the Carrack is primarily a forward reconnaissance and exploration vehicle that was used by the UEE Navy and often moved crucial assets into battlefields (according to lore) ahead of the fleet. So it makes sense it could carry a light tank, though likely that would be a waste of its garage space as it would be better to fit something like 2 cyclones or an Ursa and a cyclone. You know actual reconnaissance vehicles.
wtf did the turret retract at all? I think it lost a few inches. This "light tank" looks worse by the minute. How the fuck did it get greenlit by management?
Yeah, useless feature ;D
Cause it looks cool and will probably sell just as an LTI token alone for CCU addicts sorry I mean ccu chainers lol
Deam.. it looks nice ngl but I really wanted it to fit in a MSR....
Corsair it fits.. try backwards, turret retracted
And this is why I'm holding out for the Titan suit. The annoying exclusivity of the tank platforms just doesn't mesh well with my playstyle.
Just wait until your titan suit wont fit in anything because it's "too tall when walking" or has "too big should pads" or some other dumb shit Crap Imperium Games give iit so it limits when you can use it to the point of un-usability like the storm. LMAO
Did you try to drive the Storm backwards into the Corsair ?
Works too
Corsair can carry it backwards.. it fits perfectly.
Can you tractor it into a Caterpillar?
Ok they have to widen the valk ramp.
Not being able to fit in a valk is a major design flaw. Give me a ground vehicle the doesnt need a herc to get around please cig
It seems broader than advertised in concept?!
@TheIceJester no, Storm tank was always way too wide.
im disappointed that the storm wont fit in the valk, they need to make it fit in the valk!! what about the HH?
No attempt with the Freelancer Max coming?
Woof woof woof woof
wasnt it supposed to fit in the Valkyre?
Imagine the militaries of the world coming up with a scout tank that cannot fit in a parking spot that can accommodate your MBT and cannot be carried by any ships except ones with EM levels rivaling the sun. So good luck sneaking in to set down your recon scout tank anywhere near the enemy. As soon as you enter atmo in anything that can carry the Storm you are on everyone's radar. Going to need to set the Storm down on the back side of the planet and drive all the way to the AO. The fact that they made this thing wider than the Nova is ridiculous. The fact that you could park 4 M1 Abrams in the spot that can park a single Nova was already ridiculous enough. Actually 8 if you double stack the Abrams.
What kind of bunglers are at work at cig. They want to sell a tank that hardly fits anywhere.
Make the storm tank twice as wide as a Maus = you want to carry a storm buy a big ship = profit
will it fit a C1 or Zeus?
C1 not a chance
@sunsetcarson7913 like I mentioned at the beginning of this video I didn't test Spirit C1 because Ursa Rover is already too wide.
I will try to listen better. I always learn when watching your video's@@Camural
POV : you spend a year to make a light tank in a video game but its design is so fundamentally flawed that War Thunder players can instantly see its problems, something that paid devs have apparently failed to see.
Looks cool though, reminds me of the Tumbler from the Batman movies or the Batmobile from the Batman Arkham games
I have better luck backing inside the Corsair
Can it fit in 600i?
@brianreck5971 after rework I think so since a Nova tank will fit after rework.
Before rework? No idea, I don't own a 600i.
Yeah they didn't put much thought into this did they
The only medium ship it fits in so far is the corsair, other ships aren't wide out or deep enough to fit the Storm. And don't over think things, it should be a common sense thought that most medium ships that are older will not fit the newer ships that have came out before the corsair. I don't know why you even said "why tanks are so wide." It's a tank, be lucky that the corsair can fit it.
'' It's a tank, be lucky that the corsair can fit it.''
It's supposed to be a one man light tank though... while it's wider than the LARGEST TANK EVER BUILT.
Actual ''light tanks'' are a heck of a lot easier to fit into cargo transports than that thing looks to be.
I'm going to use the CV90105 as an example, since the CV90 series are both IFV's and light tanks depending on the model:
Weight 25 t
Length (gun forward) ~ 8.9 m
Hull length ~ 6.6 m
Width ~ 3.2 m
Height ~ 2.4 m
vs. the Storm
Weight N/A
Hull length ~ 10.5 m
Width ~ 7.5 m
Height ~ 3.6 m
For reference, a ROAD is normally around 3.65m wide
Do you see the issue? And the CV90105 is a THREE MAN VEHICLE... The Storm absolutely fails in it's role as a ''light tank''. Why does it have freaking pontoons for it's threads? And why FOUR threads?!? Why is it raised up so damn much? And how is it so damn wide?
You could've saved quite a bit of hull length if you had offset the driver to the side a bit, used a SLIGHTLY more traditional driver's hatch instead of trying to make a luxury tank, move the turret onto the other side of the tank, move the threads closer to the damn body, combine them into two threads instead of 4, then you could've put side skirts onto it to protect the threads and side of the tank instead of having freaking thread pontoons.
And why is there a bunch of extra armor between the main body of the tank and the damn pontoons?!?!? In what kind of world would someone try to disable this thing by shooting at it's hilarious pontoon threads and try to penetrate three entirely separate layers of armor?!?!? The damn thing has more armor against shots trying to hit the main body through the pontoons than the damn P-1000 Ratte...
Whats 73 tons in the face of hurston winds?? XD
Caterpillar?
Storm (7.5m) is wider than a Nova (7m) and doesn't even have an interior, it's bonkers.
Community asks for a smaller tank more ships can carry. Come out with a 'light' tank that still only the absolutely biggest ships can carry comfortably. Ugh.
It fits in the corsair like a charm all u need to do is power of the weapons
She's thiccccc, ok so here's a question seeing as I don't own a carrack what's better solo Nova or Storm?
I don't think CIG's vehicle and carrier designs are very good.
The Hercules is a terrible design in my opinion, it looks silly and is very unstable, yet it is the only ship that is a good ground vehicle carrier, and it's frustratingly incapable of carrying two ballistas side by side even though they fit in the back with some margin. Also their solution for "nerfing" the M2's cargo vs the C2 is simply to disallow some grid spots, even though the hull is the exact same size.
Little disappointed with this one. Definitely should not be as wide as it is, and that retraction barely does anything. I'd imagine it would rotate and then point the gun barrel towards the back.
Also, if it's meant to roll in and out of battle quickly it needs to be able to shoot and drive at the same time
Where did you get the idea that you couldn't drive and shoot at the same time? ruclips.net/video/cYIVKVDfZsA/видео.htmlsi=lPVDkvCTR6flNr0V&t=137
It can shoot and drive at the same time and the turret deployment is funny enough it’s strongest feature, hide it below a ridge and the target cross section is so small it basically can’t be hit
It really is annoying how needlessly large they make their vehicles.
this is clearly not a light tank. fat and clunky. cig failed another tracked vehicle.
also the driving expirience is worse than the scorpion from halo combat evolved (2001).
Extremely poor design, deliberately ruining the fun
The MSR's stupidly small door really really needs to be fixed
Your right shrink it back down to sensable.
MSR doors is fine. just make the tanks normal sized.
So obvious: you want to carry a light tank? Buy a big ship!
you forgot the hammerhead! ot does it have the same lift like the connie
This happens when a Opel Manta driver designs a tank in SC: put it lower and add more spoilers!
This tank is a joke, even before it's in game.
I thought they originally said it was supposed to be about the size of the rover, well saved me some money :/
If only a storm could fit in to a C1, I probably would have bought one. So disappointed. CIG talks big game about realism, simulation, but then makes the most ridiculous design decisions sometimes.
I hate cig for making everything this huge..
So so dissapointing it can't fit in the Valkyrie, why do they hate this ship so much
So... They made the only light tank in the game not fit into the only Drop Ship purposely designed to carry such a vehicle to the battlefield... Sometimes I think CIG is mentally challenged. Out of all the ships designed to carry vehicles the Valkyrie should be able to carry at least one. This is just stupid in the extreme.
LOL, this thing is just too large for what it is, like goodness me this is poorly designed.
WTF were they thinking? A light tank that only fits in the same ships as a heavy tank? No thanks. Pass.
A single seater tank, that can only fit in multi crew, massive ships......FML.
valk needs it's dimensions changed pretty badly. Worst dropship ever =/
I scratched the Storm as a shit concept, purely because it is a light tank that has a larger surface area than the Nova. Basically makes it pointless. So 0 interest.
Why are we complaining about not being able to fit a tank into ships that are not armoured vehicle carriers. Why the disconnect?
The fact that the Storm and Spartan can't fit in the Valkyrie makes little sense.
@eric4133 it is really terrible :(.
Its like watching the kid trying to push the circle block into a triangle hole man. You really can't see it won't fit? C'mon.