@@lethanhtung4972intel meatrider tries to make an argument (they are butthurt and dont admit that intel is overpriced and has worse performance than amd) but fails terribly
Less wattage and less heat from AMD overall the better CPU between the two. On top of that upgradability path on AMD is way better. You're essentially stuck with that Intel motherboard and you'll get rid of it quickly
@@lethanhtung4972 @lethanhtung4972 14Th gen isn't meaning amd will not make 8000 series. This like this: Yamaha Making a Vehicle that will reach 420 kmh Bye bye Kawashi. Also intel 9th series are waste money againts AMD. 8 P-Core is making it funny as well. Heat.. Power.. Low Based Ghz.. Low L3 and L2 agains Amd only L3 Worst serie of intel. AMD clapps so bad. But When their new Series exiting, 1 Old generation is Getting too underprice and Whic is making it too Good. let's talk about their 7th, i5, i3 series 13700K is really best choice for developing. Cheap + Good for their band against AMD. But against Game Performance it's not even close to AMD series. 13600K is Really Really Too op. 6 P-Cores (Enough) + 8 E-Cores Makes that can avabile to streaming or recording. Nice Based Ghz. Decent Overclock Ghz. Againt AMD Game performance is Similar. 13100K is Really Good tho. Pretty Cheap. Good for gaming for Cheap prices Bad Streamig or Recording perfomance. Can be enough for who want only play Games at 1080P with Normal Gpus AMD can' t beat this serie.
This is why I switched to amd. Part of the reason I built my own pc is to allow me to upgrade individual parts as they become obsolete. Buying a new motherboard every 2 generations when amd has been using the same socket for years makes it a no brainer what I should upgrade to. Now I have an am5 board that I can simply plop the new gen cpus into. And for the next few foreseeable years.
in fact, they won for the first time in probably 20 years, but it's a very good thing that Intel exaggerates with energy consumption and must be punished
@@mrbeckham666 First time AMD won when Ryzen 1000 was released, Then AMD won when Ryzen 3600 was released. Then AMD won when 5600X was released. Then AMD won when 5800X3D was released. And finally won when 7800X3D was released
weird thing i’ve noticed is that on playstation game ports intel always seems to have higher fps, which is weird since the ps5 has a custom amd chip so u think that’d run faster
@@ElevatedSystemsdo your research. I put this as a joke cuz I own a 7800X3D since the price to performance is so good. But you went and took it personal. And now ya look the fool since you got a simple Google search wrong. Search this "What is AMDs flagship CPU" and the top result is the 7950X and 7950X3D.
@@ElevatedSystemsyeah Also is i9 would have higher fps then also I would chose amd cus Intel is overpriced Amd chipset cpu are easy to upgrade when compared to intel which are hella expensive Intel require better colling system meaning more money to use on coller meanwhile i could just invest those saved money for gpu when using amd cpu And I have trust issues on Intel since 2017
Вы часто рассматриваете AVG FPS, но никогда не смотрите на 1% и 0.1%, более важные показатели, которые у интела лучше. К тому же, некоторые хотят униаерсальные сборки для игр и работы. В таких применениях, Интел получше.
of course, sometimes i9 will be worse if the ram is 5600. ryzen with 3d cache generally doesn’t care about the RAM, but if you put 7200+ ram to intel (whose performance grows multiple times with the frequency of the RAM), it will not leave a chance for ryzen
I7 13700k is the better comparison IMO. 7800 is not the 7900/7950 so why are we comparing the top of the range (besides ks) price against the 7800x3d? If you do that then suddenly a lot of the skewed price/performance charts start to unravel since the i7 build would be cheaper and the i7 is much better out side of gaming as a bonus.
@@Haxogone nope, there’s actually more cheaper lga1700 socket motherboards out there over AM5 boards that can properly support a 7800x3d. That’s one of the known downsides. Cooler would be comparable. A decent 212 air cooler or budget AIO would do just fine for both at stock speeds. We aren’t talking about the 13900k which admittedly does run hot. I’ve got a 13700k, 13900ks, and 7950(non x3d) build currently and the 13900ks is the only that needs a 280mm or better aio to stretch it’s legs.
@@Haxogone never said anything about overclocking though. I even specifically stated stock speeds. Besides that, that’s simply not true. I’m running a budget $200 Prime-P board on my 13700k with $100 Noctua NH-D15 air cooler running a mild 5600mhz all core oc and 64gb 6400 c32 ram. And at those clocks it games competitively with anything out there and when it comes to productivity, an x3d chip isn’t even close. I’m an IT professional and my wife’s a graphics designer(hence the different setups) living in house with these builds that I personally made right now. Are you saying what you’re saying based on what you “think” is true or actual personal experience?
@@Haxogone if anything it’s the Ryzen that needs the better cooler due to its stock boost behavior. It’ll push its thermal limits to boost as as much as its cooling solution will allow. And that’s stock behavior, meanwhile the intel will have a set boost frequency for single core and multi core loads etc.
Are you running the exact same system, using the same OS build, same driver version, same game builds? If not, are the performance numbers proportionate to what you are seeing on your 13900K system?
13600kf with overclocks and ram speed set to 7200mhz at cl36 or 7800x3d at like what 6000mhz-6400mhz iirc is stable for fortnite at 360hz and above with best 1% lows and latency??
With better ram amd would become even better than intel, zen architecture benefit much more from ram frequency and latecny than intels, this is already common sense.
Depends on your budget! But even if you got a lot of money a B-650 Plus Asus TUF for example is more than enough, get a 250€ mobo more than enough and get ddr5 6000mhz cl36 g skill for 120€
No point in getting a mobo with X670 chipset as you can't overclock 7800X3D cuz of the 3D Vcache limitation on clock speed/thermal throttling. Get any B650 chipset mobo works fine. I'm using Asrock B650 Steel Legend with my 7800X3D with a curve optimizer it runs perfectly fine. Get a decent air cooler or AIO water cooler, X3D CPU runs hot cuz of Vcache right on top of the CPU Chip.
Bought asus tuf 760m wifi 6 d4 for only 139 cad , same b650 mb is over 250 cad , DDR 5 is still 30-50 percent more than ddr4, you paid your mb and ram for what you save from cpu.and none buy 13900k for gaming, but most of 13600k, it is just half price of 7800x3d. The critiria you set does not exsit😂
@@wallacesousuke1433 the small gains that 7800X3D still has over Intel 13900k is still a small gain even in 4K lol still beats it. which you would think there wont be much gain in 4K.
You’re right, 720p may have been a better indicator of CPU performance, but with modern graphics cards at 1080P we don’t see any GPU bottlenecks which would impact measured differences in CPU performance. As say 1440p or 4K would definitely do. But I assume you knew this.
amd supporters always cherry pick games to match them against intel. intel will take the lead in the new games bc they need more cores and amd will not be able to keep up.
In 2-4K games it's normal :-: High Resolution = Low Cpu usage. I5 series are even beating 7950X3D and i9 13900Ks at High Resolution what would you say to it? Ryzen Just better for performance, Intel better for other things like Streaming, Programming, Game Developing [Better isn't meaning it's good or bad!]
@@Jason_Bover9000 But you need a 4090 to remove all possible GPU bottleneck from the CPU to reveal max performance. Benchmarking at higher resolution shifts demand from the CPU to the GPU resulting in invalid results.
@@MakeSh00t I have ASUs pg42uq and I play there with my ps5 and my old pc in full hd is Samsung 120hz but now I wanna do a 1 solution monito and make a pc for playing good in this monitor …about this I ask what processor is better …but I think I will go in ryzen for new platform …
Amd fanboy using 1080p and 5600mhz ram . He knows that the area where i9 shines is 1440p and 4k and he also knows that if we are making an expensive pc already worth 3000 dollars or more, most people use 4k. Bro looks like he gotta do his tech study again. No hate I'm just revealing the reality. If we check 4k benchmarks, or even 1440p. Intel dominates. Who's gonna buy a 1080p monitor if he's already having such expensive pc.
Lol why did you nit test this with 13700k? Wait, I know. It will diminish your narrative of price to performance real fast huh? Compare r7 to i7 and r9 to i9. Your bias and ignorance is showing.
@@ElevatedSystems there is a 7950x3d, why not compare the 13900k to that? Isnt the 7950x3d the best amd has to offer? Or maybe you dont have any idea 7950x3d exist?
@@ElevatedSystems ok then lets do the opposite. I5 13600k vs r7 7800x3d. Which one wins price to performance? Of course its the 13600k at a lower price point right? Or still you dont see it?
For a laptop is great but for a desktop who cares. For a desktop PC i would still go for intel. Then gaming advantage is only in some games and although is seems big you still have crazy high fps with intel. The big AMD x3d downside comes when you compare them in productivity workloads. If you only play games yeah sure go for AMD but if you maybe want to render something consider the fact that the 7800X3D is just a lil faster than a I5 in rendering.
@@Diode7 there is a channel called FrameChasers just follow him. 13900k is way smoother experience than any amd processors. Amd has always high averages but 1% and .1% lows are horrible and unplayable especially when u play competitve
7800X3D is just beating in some games, Not at all games and also 7800X3D is a Pretty well Cpu that beats even their 7950X3D when overclocked test. About performance Ryzen is always better about other things like Streaming/ Programming/ Game Design/ Game developing/ Rendering Intel just better Intel has more features tho. [Better isn't meaning Good or bad, Or other one is bad or good!] Stop being a fanboy and little search
@MadaraUchiha-qr9oh Problem isn't only About power and Heat, The second and third problem is Windows 11 supports and 8 P-Core and 16 E-Core while 7950x3d using 16 P-Core, You can look at Core perfomance. 7950X3D has %0 diffrence in Hyper Multi Threading and Simple Multi Threading. Intel isn't a Cpu that you should buy at 9nd series Intel is a Cpu that you should buy i3 or i5 at %100. About i7, if you're a developer and not too rich then you %100 will select i7 due to Ryzen smilar price things are bad in work
@@lexavlogs7149 there are test out there with 7200 ram and it’s still behind the 7800/7950x3d…so at best they are statistically equal…and the 13900k or is does not use less power…the 7800x3d uses like 90 watts
@@danielcombs5286 Why the hell plays at 1080p anyway? Run them at 1440p/4K and see the difference drop to zero as you are GPU bound. This AMD fanboi sh!t is so pointless.
Man im confused. I heard that amd cpu performs bad for 3d rendering,editing but almost same in gaming and consumes less power. I need to get one for gaming,blender 3d. I will be getting the new 4070 ti super...which one will be overall good? Ryzen 9 7950x or i914th gen?
4 months later but for those who still need it: For rendering, x3d chips are worse, they are focused on gaming, 7950x is better for rendering. I would buy a 7950x3d because that is good for both rendering and gaming. you can just turn half of its cores off while you are gaming for a bit better performance.
DDR5 5600? Anyone with any experience on ZEN CPUs knows RAM speed and latency makes a difference for AMD, not so much for Intel. This is COMMON KNOWLEDGE among enthusiasts. DDR5 6000 CL 30 is recommended for best performance on ZEN 5 CPUs. If you tested with anything less, you did it wrong.
Concerning the 7800X3D, the performance deviation of 5600 MT/s memory vs 6000 MT/s across the 10 games tested is +0.0065. For the I9-13900 its actually higher at +0.0087.
Le Zen 4 ne tolère pas plus que les 6000 C30 , effectivement il marche bien à cette fréquence ! par contre c'est l'inverse, ces les Intel qui aime une grosse fréquence de RAM ! N'importe quel tests le prouve , ma plateforme personnelle également !
@@Kil9733 it wasn’t the 7800x3d causing it, ASUS motherboards with x3d CPUs were the ones with issues when paired and ASUS kept blaming Ryzen until they received a lot of backlash from content creators and fixed their mistake… by making it so that the bios update that fixes the issue removes your warranty on the motherboard aswell. Big L on Asus’s part, but if you do get an x3d cpu just don’t buy an ASUS mobo
@@titustech337 yeah AMD's 7800x3d is their mid-high end CPU. The 7950x3d is their best CPU, but in gaming exclusively they're nearly identical so gamers have no reason to use the 7950x3d
The hype around this processor is ridiculous. First of all the price per performance is about the same when you factor in the cost for an AM5 motherboard. And the 7800x3D gets decimated by the 13900K in anything outside of gaming and not by a measly 4% in a contrived 1080p gaming workload that no one with a $500 cpu games at, by 75-120% in multithreaded and 20% in single threaded. Eight cores might play games fine now, but just give it a couple years. Already we see games like The Last Of Us Part 1. People with 8 core CPUs were waiting up to an hour just for the shaders to compile before they could play. If you like price per performance, you should buy a 5800x3D or a 13600K. Conclusion: 8 core CPU for $450 in 2023? Yeah, hard pass.
Stop trying to post-fact justify your purchase you pseudo-intellectual dumbass. The price pr. performance is far exceeded by the 7800x3D on pure watts, to dollars, to frames. Unless you're actively working (that is, as your job) with software that is core count and clock favoured, no one benefits from having a $700 253w CPU on a dead platform, over a $550 120w CPU. No average person cares about Blender performance. So few games get developed that account for more than 4 cores/threads in multi-threaded performance, because that's not how games processing works, let alone use 16c/32t of them - it's not just more threads more better.. Get real.
I'm thinking of upgrading my i5-1400f but it would be my second time i build a pc and from the looks of it i can better go with ryzen here since the wats are way lower, making it easier to build w aircool...
100 watt 7800x3d vs 300 wattt cpu 13900k
13900k around 120-150w, it dont consume that much in gaming, do some research before saying anything.
@@lethanhtung4972ok 100 watt vs 120-150 watt
@@lethanhtung4972intel meatrider tries to make an argument (they are butthurt and dont admit that intel is overpriced and has worse performance than amd) but fails terribly
@@riinq All I said is fact, 13900k dont use 300w in gaming, amd fanboi like you must be blind to see that.
@@streetjudas2211 120 vs 125*
And the Ryzen comsumes 1/3 of the power in gaming.
Intel fanboy denial is strong with this video
Less wattage and less heat from AMD overall the better CPU between the two. On top of that upgradability path on AMD is way better. You're essentially stuck with that Intel motherboard and you'll get rid of it quickly
I doubt you wont say that again when you hear that the 14th intel chip still using socket 1700.
@@lethanhtung4972have they announced that? Will there be Z890 boards?
@@lethanhtung4972 agreed I am shocked but I'm not going to be impressed with the uplift considering this is a second refresh of 12th gen.
@@lethanhtung4972 @lethanhtung4972 14Th gen isn't meaning amd will not make 8000 series.
This like this:
Yamaha Making a Vehicle that will reach 420 kmh Bye bye Kawashi.
Also intel 9th series are waste money againts AMD.
8 P-Core is making it funny as well.
Heat..
Power..
Low Based Ghz..
Low L3 and L2 agains Amd only L3
Worst serie of intel.
AMD clapps so bad.
But When their new Series exiting, 1 Old generation is Getting too underprice and Whic is making it too Good.
let's talk about their 7th, i5, i3 series
13700K is really best choice for developing.
Cheap + Good for their band against AMD.
But against Game Performance it's not even close to AMD series.
13600K is Really Really Too op.
6 P-Cores (Enough) + 8 E-Cores Makes that can avabile to streaming or recording.
Nice Based Ghz.
Decent Overclock Ghz.
Againt AMD Game performance is Similar.
13100K is Really Good tho.
Pretty Cheap.
Good for gaming for Cheap prices
Bad Streamig or Recording perfomance.
Can be enough for who want only play Games at 1080P with Normal Gpus
AMD can' t beat this serie.
This is why I switched to amd. Part of the reason I built my own pc is to allow me to upgrade individual parts as they become obsolete. Buying a new motherboard every 2 generations when amd has been using the same socket for years makes it a no brainer what I should upgrade to. Now I have an am5 board that I can simply plop the new gen cpus into. And for the next few foreseeable years.
Doom Eternal 700+ fps ☠️
I got an intel chip because I use my pc for more than strictly gaming.
New video: 8050X vs 14900K
7800x3d wins and is half the price.
Now I just need to find 850$US for a whole set-up. 😀
That's just the board cpu and ram 💀
@@ryzenpeak and ssd
850SUS? Sus....
@@wallacesousuke1433 New cpu, new motherboard, new ram... if not new case... not 850$US? 😀
@@dIggl3r I was joking about how it looked like you wrote SUS in your OP 🤪
AMD win again 🎉
in fact, they won for the first time in probably 20 years, but it's a very good thing that Intel exaggerates with energy consumption and must be punished
@@mrbeckham666 Maybe you forgot the time when 5800X3D was the fastest gaming CPU in the world?
@@jondasek he doesn't know much about cpus I think
The intel core i9 extreme edition laughing in the corner
@@mrbeckham666 First time AMD won when Ryzen 1000 was released, Then AMD won when Ryzen 3600 was released. Then AMD won when 5600X was released. Then AMD won when 5800X3D was released. And finally won when 7800X3D was released
Which it gets hotter faster? A 13600k or 7800x3d
Probably Intel But intel has more Durability to Heat
Intel does
please make 7800x3d vs 13900ks 🔥
Bro, 7800x3d is %50 cheap than 13900Ks and you still want to compare it 💀
@@ohno7692
i'm just want to compare the performance
yeah 7800x3d is very cheaper 👍
The 7800x3d beats it.
Cant wait for a 9800X3D
weird thing i’ve noticed is that on playstation game ports intel always seems to have higher fps, which is weird since the ps5 has a custom amd chip so u think that’d run faster
Man's had to pit AMDs mid tier vs intels flagship just for it to be fair XD
Do your research. The 7800X3D is AMDs flagship gaming CPU.
@@ElevatedSystems I have. Literally Google it. The Ryzen 9 7950X and 7950X3D are their flagship models.
@@ElevatedSystemsdo your research. I put this as a joke cuz I own a 7800X3D since the price to performance is so good. But you went and took it personal. And now ya look the fool since you got a simple Google search wrong. Search this "What is AMDs flagship CPU" and the top result is the 7950X and 7950X3D.
@@ElevatedSystemsyeah
Also is i9 would have higher fps then also I would chose amd cus
Intel is overpriced
Amd chipset cpu are easy to upgrade when compared to intel which are hella expensive
Intel require better colling system meaning more money to use on coller meanwhile i could just invest those saved money for gpu when using amd cpu
And I have trust issues on Intel since 2017
I guess that pairing the AMD cpu with ddr5 6000 would improve even more.
To upgrade intel you need a new mobo. Amd mobo will last 4+ years and can be cpu upgraded each year
300fps high settings on a game like god of war is straight up crazy💀
Specifically for gaming Amd Ryzen 7 for a more powerful pc intel
Вы часто рассматриваете AVG FPS, но никогда не смотрите на 1% и 0.1%, более важные показатели, которые у интела лучше. К тому же, некоторые хотят униаерсальные сборки для игр и работы. В таких применениях, Интел получше.
How much does the 13900K cost and how much does the 7800x3d cost
7800x3d goes for $350 while the 13900k goes for $450
What should I go with 7800x3d or i9-13900k if I want to stream aswell
i9. i9/ 7950x3d for gaming n workloads while the 7800 is for gaming.
@@ThaAlumniMusicGroup so should I go with i9 I game in 4K ultra settings rt
@@StackzYTz yes the i9 is the perfect candidate for a 4k setup
@@ThaAlumniMusicGroup ok I think I will go with i9 because it’s better for steaming while playing in 4K right
@@StackzYTz yup that is 100% correct
It even beats the i9 14900k in gaming performance.
Should use a rx 7900 xtx would be a different story.
14900k is equal to 7800X3D
But 14900k has 150W cumsumption in games, 7800X3D has 75W cumsumption lol
Power consumption, temps and price way lower with pretty much the same performance. Easily the best price to performance cpu
7800x3D
of course, sometimes i9 will be worse if the ram is 5600. ryzen with 3d cache generally doesn’t care about the RAM, but if you put 7200+ ram to intel (whose performance grows multiple times with the frequency of the RAM), it will not leave a chance for ryzen
So 130 usd difference in the chip and prob the same amount for the ram just to barely win?
Considering that that high of ram is not very stable right now. Well its not all that much better.
@@David-he7nw You are comparing a gaming chip with a perfect chip for everything, 130$ is worth.
@@lethanhtung4972perfect for everything lol yeah including turning your room into a sauna
@@wallacesousuke1433 If you have money to buy the top cpu, you should have money to buy the top cooling system.
And which processor is better in RPCS3 emulator and other emulators?
I7 13700k is the better comparison IMO. 7800 is not the 7900/7950 so why are we comparing the top of the range (besides ks) price against the 7800x3d? If you do that then suddenly a lot of the skewed price/performance charts start to unravel since the i7 build would be cheaper and the i7 is much better out side of gaming as a bonus.
Motherboard and cooling costs more.
@@Haxogone nope, there’s actually more cheaper lga1700 socket motherboards out there over AM5 boards that can properly support a 7800x3d. That’s one of the known downsides. Cooler would be comparable. A decent 212 air cooler or budget AIO would do just fine for both at stock speeds. We aren’t talking about the 13900k which admittedly does run hot. I’ve got a 13700k, 13900ks, and 7950(non x3d) build currently and the 13900ks is the only that needs a 280mm or better aio to stretch it’s legs.
@@solidus317 Intel CPUs require high end motherboards to OC and the 7800X3D can get by with a normal air cooler.
@@Haxogone never said anything about overclocking though. I even specifically stated stock speeds. Besides that, that’s simply not true. I’m running a budget $200 Prime-P board on my 13700k with $100 Noctua NH-D15 air cooler running a mild 5600mhz all core oc and 64gb 6400 c32 ram. And at those clocks it games competitively with anything out there and when it comes to productivity, an x3d chip isn’t even close. I’m an IT professional and my wife’s a graphics designer(hence the different setups) living in house with these builds that I personally made right now. Are you saying what you’re saying based on what you “think” is true or actual personal experience?
@@Haxogone if anything it’s the Ryzen that needs the better cooler due to its stock boost behavior. It’ll push its thermal limits to boost as as much as its cooling solution will allow. And that’s stock behavior, meanwhile the intel will have a set boost frequency for single core and multi core loads etc.
Do you have expo running in this video on the 7800x3d because those performance numbers are not in line with what I see
Are you running the exact same system, using the same OS build, same driver version, same game builds? If not, are the performance numbers proportionate to what you are seeing on your 13900K system?
13600kf with overclocks and ram speed set to 7200mhz at cl36 or 7800x3d at like what 6000mhz-6400mhz iirc is stable for fortnite at 360hz and above with best 1% lows and latency??
Both CPUs are bottlenecked by the RAM speed
you forgot calculate watt/$ when used.
Dude is using a budget ram kit with an i9 😂
yeah ya need a 7200 mhz set for around max performance xD
With better ram amd would become even better than intel, zen architecture benefit much more from ram frequency and latecny than intels, this is already common sense.
wouldn't matter, hardware unbox did benchmark test using high speed ram on Intel CPU and X3D still beats it.
The intel core i9 extreme edition laughing in the corner
yes lets neuter the 13900k by giving it slow speed ram
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I feel sorry for Intel fans
AMD is better gaming and Intel is for productivity
*Thredripper entered the chat*
Amd is a easy win.
my guy is really comparing a ryzen 9 to a core i9... why don't u compare it to the i7??
The 7800x3d is the best gaming CPU from AMD, and the i9 is the best from Intel.
You don't max out the graphics when you're testing the cpu
The 4090 at 1080p will not be having that issue
It also makes for a more realistic test to max it
Any recommendations of what mb & ram I should get for the 7800x3d?
Depends on your budget! But even if you got a lot of money a B-650 Plus Asus TUF for example is more than enough, get a 250€ mobo more than enough and get ddr5 6000mhz cl36 g skill for 120€
No point in getting a mobo with X670 chipset as you can't overclock 7800X3D cuz of the 3D Vcache limitation on clock speed/thermal throttling. Get any B650 chipset mobo works fine. I'm using Asrock B650 Steel Legend with my 7800X3D with a curve optimizer it runs perfectly fine. Get a decent air cooler or AIO water cooler, X3D CPU runs hot cuz of Vcache right on top of the CPU Chip.
For rendering??
i9 obviously
Bought asus tuf 760m wifi 6 d4 for only 139 cad , same b650 mb is over 250 cad , DDR 5 is still 30-50 percent more than ddr4, you paid your mb and ram for what you save from cpu.and none buy 13900k for gaming, but most of 13600k, it is just half price of 7800x3d. The critiria you set does not exsit😂
if it dont blow op :-p try it without EXPO :-p
IT was fixed when you update bios or not? And only for asus motherboards or for all? Because i Will be have new setup with gigabyte B650 Motherboard
7800x3d just good at 1080 p
CPU becomes less relevant at 4k yeah
It does become less relevant however the 7800x3d gets a larger lead at 4k lol
@@wallacesousuke1433 the small gains that 7800X3D still has over Intel 13900k is still a small gain even in 4K lol still beats it. which you would think there wont be much gain in 4K.
@@sparda9060 nice to know, although I have no interest in the x3D versions
14900k just got released
Don't you mean the new 13900k?
this was posted over 5 months ago lol
@@LarsH0NEYtoast nope the 14900
It still looses btw, the difference between a 13900k and a 14900k is next to non
In productiviti intel is good
Never look at fps charts without 1% lows. Please ignore anything like this in the future guys.
1% lows are not an issue for either of these CPUs
Depends on what it's for. Running a 360hz monitor trust me you want to know the 1% lows @@Dragonlord826
X3D CPU are known to have really high 1% and 0.1% lows compared all other CPUs.
뭐니뭐니 해도 반도체는 전력대비 효율이다. 인텔은 쓰뤠기
Unfortunately my go to game is CSGO.
I wonder if 13900k also outperforms on CS2 ??
Bro, you need highest performance cpu for CSGO?
@@Rororandd so is that 7800x3d or 13900k for cs2?
@@orion9k I don't know. Both are enough to max out fps
@@orion9k with 7800px3d you get above 500 fps at 1080p in CS2. With 13900k you get a bit more, probably 75-100 fps more
R5 7800x3D forever
Do Factorio. :D
Intel is superior when you factor in 1% lows. All those frames won’t matter if the game stutters.
You are acting like the 7800X3D has 1% lows at like 5 fps? its not that much less compared to intel lol.
@@oscarnilsson2872don't worry his just hurt that his made a wrong decision and now his trying to justify buying the intel was worth it ,🤣
The winner Ryzen
1080p 😅
You’re right, 720p may have been a better indicator of CPU performance, but with modern graphics cards at 1080P we don’t see any GPU bottlenecks which would impact measured differences in CPU performance. As say 1440p or 4K would definitely do. But I assume you knew this.
Compare 1% and 0.1% FPS too. Ryzen is sometimes better at AVG, but always loses by 1% and 0.1%
Man in terms of gaming why do you need over 60fps on a card that runs 8k at 60fps. 😂
For high fps 4k and future proofing
4090 can't run 8K 60 fps lol Its the best 4K card currently but no gpu is a 8K card.
amd supporters always cherry pick games to match them against intel. intel will take the lead in the new games bc they need more cores and amd will not be able to keep up.
CSGO?
Pero no puedes comparar un i9 contra un Ryzen 7 no tiene sentido
Look at real benchmarks the 78003d gets shit on by intel this vid is too😂
The 13900k can't even keep up with the 5800X3D let alone the 7800X3D
the 13900k is faster than the 5800x3d. the 7800x3d is faster than both of them.
13900k is lot faster than 5800X3D. Tf you smoking?
In 2-4K games it's normal :-: High Resolution = Low Cpu usage. I5 series are even beating 7950X3D and i9 13900Ks at High Resolution what would you say to it?
Ryzen Just better for performance, Intel better for other things like Streaming, Programming, Game Developing
[Better isn't meaning it's good or bad!]
@@ohno7692Intel is not better for any of that, dude
the 13900k can run with much faster ram and benefits a lot
Who plays on a 4090 at 1080p
Who doesn't understand that this is a CPU benchmark?
@@ElevatedSystems I guess but you don't need 4090 to play at 1080p
@@Jason_Bover9000 But you need a 4090 to remove all possible GPU bottleneck from the CPU to reveal max performance. Benchmarking at higher resolution shifts demand from the CPU to the GPU resulting in invalid results.
@@ElevatedSystems yes at 1080p I would rather play at 1440p then 1080p I play on a 7900xtx i know my 12600k even at 1440p is cpu bottleneck
@@ElevatedSystems my as well get a 15 gen cpu then next 720p 400fps on 6090 hellblade 2 😆 💀
Ryzen 7800x3d best processor
intel useless and rubish
I wanna play in the new ASU’s 4K monitor …what is better for 4K ?
@@MakeSh00t I have ASUs pg42uq and I play there with my ps5 and my old pc in full hd is Samsung 120hz but now I wanna do a 1 solution monito and make a pc for playing good in this monitor …about this I ask what processor is better …but I think I will go in ryzen for new platform …
CPUs are basically irrelevant for 4k Gaming. Just get whats cheaper.
Could even go with the 5800X3D
12400 is enough
Lg C2 42" brother. U won't regret it.
Amd fanboy using 1080p and 5600mhz ram . He knows that the area where i9 shines is 1440p and 4k and he also knows that if we are making an expensive pc already worth 3000 dollars or more, most people use 4k. Bro looks like he gotta do his tech study again. No hate I'm just revealing the reality. If we check 4k benchmarks, or even 1440p. Intel dominates. Who's gonna buy a 1080p monitor if he's already having such expensive pc.
4090 1080p 😂
CPU benchmarks 🤣
@@ElevatedSystems for cpu benchs make synthetic tests, for gaming people need realistic tests, no a top tier CPU with top tier GPU in 1080p 😅
@@andresreacher8790 not how CPU benchmarking works. If you want to know how a RTX 4090 works for gaming, watch a GPU review.
Lol why did you nit test this with 13700k? Wait, I know. It will diminish your narrative of price to performance real fast huh?
Compare r7 to i7 and r9 to i9. Your bias and ignorance is showing.
The 7800x3D is AMD's flagship gaming CPU and the 13900K is Intel's. These are GAMING benchmarks. Who's ignorance is showing?
@@ElevatedSystems there is a 7950x3d, why not compare the 13900k to that? Isnt the 7950x3d the best amd has to offer? Or maybe you dont have any idea 7950x3d exist?
@@justanobody4983 GAMING CPU's! Bro, do you even Google?
@@ElevatedSystems ok then lets do the opposite. I5 13600k vs r7 7800x3d. Which one wins price to performance? Of course its the 13600k at a lower price point right? Or still you dont see it?
@@justanobody4983 I refer you back my first comment. Over.
For a laptop is great but for a desktop who cares. For a desktop PC i would still go for intel. Then gaming advantage is only in some games and although is seems big you still have crazy high fps with intel. The big AMD x3d downside comes when you compare them in productivity workloads. If you only play games yeah sure go for AMD but if you maybe want to render something consider the fact that the 7800X3D is just a lil faster than a I5 in rendering.
Lol, fake test or u do it first time .?😅
It's not fake
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In some games, AMD CPUs only consume 60-70W TDP while Intel CPUs consume up to 150-170W TDP. ridiculous
Wow
Malaysia 🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶
I dare you to show 0.1% low fps 💀💀💀 enjoy y’all stuttery games
Which would be better for less stutter bro 7800x3d or the 13900k?
@@Diode7 there is a channel called FrameChasers just follow him. 13900k is way smoother experience than any amd processors. Amd has always high averages but 1% and .1% lows are horrible and unplayable especially when u play competitve
@@Diode7 there is a reason these " benchmarkers " never turn on 1% and .1% lows dont fall for the marketing.
@@simplethings1830that’s not true, gamers nexus shows them and the 7800x3d is just fine in that department
1080p amd win. 4k intel win
nah 13900k is better
7800X3D is just beating in some games, Not at all games and also 7800X3D is a Pretty well Cpu that beats even their 7950X3D when overclocked test.
About performance Ryzen is always better about other things like Streaming/ Programming/ Game Design/ Game developing/ Rendering Intel just better
Intel has more features tho.
[Better isn't meaning Good or bad, Or other one is bad or good!]
Stop being a fanboy and little search
@MadaraUchiha-qr9oh Problem isn't only About power and Heat, The second and third problem is Windows 11 supports and 8 P-Core and 16 E-Core while 7950x3d using 16 P-Core, You can look at Core perfomance. 7950X3D has %0 diffrence in Hyper Multi Threading and Simple Multi Threading.
Intel isn't a Cpu that you should buy at 9nd series
Intel is a Cpu that you should buy i3 or i5 at %100.
About i7, if you're a developer and not too rich then you %100 will select i7 due to Ryzen smilar price things are bad in work
13900ks is the best Intel cpu combo with 7200ddr5 minimum eat 7800x3d for breakfast whitout any OC
…but it doesn’t. The 13900k is about 1-3% slower on average than the is…and the 7800x3d is 10% faster on average than the 13900k…
@@danielcombs5286 faster ram gives a 6% so...13900ks is 3-4% or the same efficiency but consuming 45% less with uv and less clock
@@lexavlogs7149 there are test out there with 7200 ram and it’s still behind the 7800/7950x3d…so at best they are statistically equal…and the 13900k or is does not use less power…the 7800x3d uses like 90 watts
@Daniel Combs I'm talking about 13900ks. There's a video about that also 8000mhz vs 6000mhz gives a 6% boost
@@danielcombs5286 On one game. And please let me know if your 7800X3D blows up any time soon?
Intel is still better and runs better in most games since they are developed and optimized for intel
…on average the 7800x3d is 5-10% faster with all games considered…
Not really recent games are also optimised for amd also
u still live in the year 2015.
@@danielcombs5286 BS
@@danielcombs5286 Why the hell plays at 1080p anyway? Run them at 1440p/4K and see the difference drop to zero as you are GPU bound. This AMD fanboi sh!t is so pointless.
Man im confused.
I heard that amd cpu performs bad for 3d rendering,editing but almost same in gaming and consumes less power.
I need to get one for gaming,blender 3d.
I will be getting the new 4070 ti super...which one will be overall good? Ryzen 9 7950x or i914th gen?
4 months later but for those who still need it:
For rendering, x3d chips are worse, they are focused on gaming, 7950x is better for rendering. I would buy a 7950x3d because that is good for both rendering and gaming. you can just turn half of its cores off while you are gaming for a bit better performance.
He forgot about how 7800x3d is better than the intel in terms of power consumption.
Which also means significantly less heat. I would've gone Intel but the raging inferno that Intel is right now make me stay away.
Bien sûr, mais pas en jeux ! Le 13900K en jeux reste froid et ne consomme qu'entre 70 et 120 W !
You forgot to mention the 7800X3Ds are blowing up.
@@SixDasher for now. It's just a software bug. Not a hardware bug. It's also all 7000 series. Not just the 7800x3d
@@julienh5197 tu t'es trompé de language je crois
DDR5 5600? Anyone with any experience on ZEN CPUs knows RAM speed and latency makes a difference for AMD, not so much for Intel. This is COMMON KNOWLEDGE among enthusiasts. DDR5 6000 CL 30 is recommended for best performance on ZEN 5 CPUs. If you tested with anything less, you did it wrong.
Yes
Concerning the 7800X3D, the performance deviation of 5600 MT/s memory vs 6000 MT/s across the 10 games tested is +0.0065. For the I9-13900 its actually higher at +0.0087.
Not for 7800x3d. The added cache makes a good difference
Le Zen 4 ne tolère pas plus que les 6000 C30 , effectivement il marche bien à cette fréquence !
par contre c'est l'inverse, ces les Intel qui aime une grosse fréquence de RAM !
N'importe quel tests le prouve , ma plateforme personnelle également !
Ram speed definitely makes a big difference for intel.
One CPU to rule them all. We live in a weird time nowadays and I love it.
Idk why people are so bype when the 14900k is matching it and the 14700k actuallt edges out the 5800x3d in 1440p and 4k gaming.
My little bro i9 9900k is probably cooler than all of your amd cpu put together doesn’t make it better 😂 the amd cope is so crazy in here.
AMD runs cooler 😂
I think the top AMD cpu for single core speed is as good or better than intel for games that like single core high clocks like counter strike
make sure to disable few features on your motherboard so the chip doesnt melt your botherboard -thanks gamer nexus for exposing this
not anymore, bios update already fix that
@@juanandreas97 are the ryzen 7 7800x3d’s problems fixed now?
@@Kil9733 it wasn’t the 7800x3d causing it, ASUS motherboards with x3d CPUs were the ones with issues when paired and ASUS kept blaming Ryzen until they received a lot of backlash from content creators and fixed their mistake… by making it so that the bios update that fixes the issue removes your warranty on the motherboard aswell.
Big L on Asus’s part, but if you do get an x3d cpu just don’t buy an ASUS mobo
@@damagedjefff which mobo do you recommend then? Honestly i was gonna go with a Gigabyte one but saw that it also had a similar problem.
@@Kil9733 gigabyte x ax atx is the best affordable am5 board so I’d recommend it
What’s the price difference?
I'm pretty sure the 7800x3d is 50-100$ cheaper
@@Dragonlord826 that’s a pretty big factor for someone like me then
@@titustech337 yeah AMD's 7800x3d is their mid-high end CPU. The 7950x3d is their best CPU, but in gaming exclusively they're nearly identical so gamers have no reason to use the 7950x3d
Slow ram
The hype around this processor is ridiculous. First of all the price per performance is about the same when you factor in the cost for an AM5 motherboard. And the 7800x3D gets decimated by the 13900K in anything outside of gaming and not by a measly 4% in a contrived 1080p gaming workload that no one with a $500 cpu games at, by 75-120% in multithreaded and 20% in single threaded. Eight cores might play games fine now, but just give it a couple years. Already we see games like The Last Of Us Part 1. People with 8 core CPUs were waiting up to an hour just for the shaders to compile before they could play. If you like price per performance, you should buy a 5800x3D or a 13600K. Conclusion: 8 core CPU for $450 in 2023? Yeah, hard pass.
*cough* a620 motherboard *cough*
Stop trying to post-fact justify your purchase you pseudo-intellectual dumbass.
The price pr. performance is far exceeded by the 7800x3D on pure watts, to dollars, to frames. Unless you're actively working (that is, as your job) with software that is core count and clock favoured, no one benefits from having a $700 253w CPU on a dead platform, over a $550 120w CPU. No average person cares about Blender performance. So few games get developed that account for more than 4 cores/threads in multi-threaded performance, because that's not how games processing works, let alone use 16c/32t of them - it's not just more threads more better..
Get real.
Dead platform and if you’re mainly playing games the x3d is the better deal.
Power consumption will pay for itself in 2-3 years.
@@PowerPawaa Now you know that the intel 14th chip still using socket 1700.
I'm thinking of upgrading my i5-1400f but it would be my second time i build a pc and from the looks of it i can better go with ryzen here since the wats are way lower, making it easier to build w aircool...