@@tamcphail It has stock like power right off idle so I cant really tell a difference, also it will idle at pretty much stock RPM so normal driving is just like stock. Tune is the main thing.
I have an 03 Yukon Denali XL and watching this video made me sure I want the Truck Norris cam. I have HPT too so I'll be doing all my own tuning. The engine is out right now and my machinist will be putting everything together for me. Thanks for the great video.
@@trihulladventures6567 I did, it runs strong and sounds great. The Truck Norris cam is a great fit with the 6.0 and 799 heads. I recently sold the rig though to pursue an 8.1 build.
Bout to do the same To my 5.3 Tahoe on 33s with 4.30 gears.just picked up a 7x16 vnose trailer. I was worried bout throwing the cam in. This is exactly what I've been looking for. A tow test. Thanks man
Nice, I actually looked at a 8.1 but im just so used to working on LS engine I wanted to keep it simple and the 4L80 is much cheaper to rebuild or replace than the Allison that comes with the 8.1 I’d love to see one of those 8.1s with a turbo on it, would be like a diesel that runs on gasoline lol
@@JohnnyAnderson1 check out LT Tolmans channel he put a 8.1 in a 1500 and then turbo it. He been building a 4.8 stepside truck to compare and test with.
Yes! The truck is super clean and enjoyed the video. Had a snag up with my 706 P&P Heads being scammed for my money. Waiting on being refunded by the charge back and considering 799 junkyard pulls and doing the P&P myself then having them milled .010" then I'll be abke to get the install finished and my build video up. Thanks for this video!
Glad you liked it! I lightly ported a set of 243s and 706 heads and they worked great both times. Just don’t take away much material in the runners, mainly just smooth the bowls up and enjoy!
@@JohnnyAnderson1 Yeah, I've been hit with the delima of boring too much out on accident since Im not doing this 24/7 and it'll be my first attempt. I know it's all about the bowl and valve guide as I've watched eric weingartner and david visar talk about porting and coefficient of discharge, and how "porters" ruin cylinder heads with boring the throats out and going to big with valve seat upgrades. I'm tempted to just drop the $1400-1600 at a shop in Alabama with 799 heads ported and bigger intake/exhaust valves and just call it a day and not deal with the headeach haha. I'm just making everything more difficult as it shoukd just be a simple 706 or 799 swap.
@@JohnnyAnderson1 it's the only way to justify it with the wife after we talk ourself into it too ahahah. Well, this went out so, it's just a matter of time and since im there, I might as well.. right? 😅
Thinking about doing this on my 07 Classic bowtie 1500 (4.8L) LR4 engine. Has 3.23 rear gear. No one has made a 8 or 10 speed tcm to retrofit to the LS block yet so i guess a 6L90 that's been redone for 1 OD gear will have to be settled for.
It would definitely improve power, but if your not gonna be adding boost I would try and atleast find a decent 5.3 to swap in at the same time to add some extra torque. Not sure what your budget is though. Sounds like an awesome project!
@@JohnnyAnderson1 i acquired a 5.7 iron (5.3 bored out) 799/243 heads after the 4.8 had gotten water in the sump, on that lq4 are you using stock injectors?
Great info. I’m putting a Truck Norris cam in a 1500 with the vortex max 6.0. I pull a 7700 lb camper around and this cam should give me the midrange boost it needs.
How hard is it to do a cam swap. I have an 06 Sierra 2500 hd 6.0 that just seems to struggle a bit climbing hills pulling my camper. I'd like to get more power out of it. It's completely stock as of now
@@2bearms did you do anything yet? One of my favorite real world cam swap videos is on the channel Dinoco Blue iirc. Shows the dowel method where you don't have to take the heads off. Sometimes its better just to pay the $3k for a shop to install and tune it and everything. Just depends on your circumstances.
Idle sounds nice. I dig it. Still holding back on my stock 6.0 w 187k w trucool trans cooler. But soon very soon. I tow 8-9k through west coast mountains upto 7000’. I rev the shit out of it on the mountains both going up and down. I often hold 4500-5000rpm for 2-3 minutes. I need bigger radiator or better fan clutch because i see around 230 coolant temp at the top of the hill.
@akka7556 Well honestly that's where you will notice the most power increase is when revving above 3000, I'd definitely do it if your pulling that much weight alot.
I have a +.030 5.3 in a 2001 Tahoe that is freshly rebuilt. Made the mistake of using dished pistons and a BTR towing cam. It’s a little anemic but a solid runner!! Has a towing TC and trans & transfer are fresh. It sounds like the Truck Norris would be great for towing!! I tow about 5,000 lbs on a regular basis. Thoughts?
The cam you have now would be just as good as the TN cam for towing, the only advantage you would more than likely notice would be above 4000 or so rpm. I don't think it would be worth swapping otherwise.
Just from what I am seeing it is getting power at 2800 or so if you keep it there pulls good tuning this cam is definitely a challenge with that low lsa a 212/218 is a good cam with low end and top end and makes all the power by 2200 or so but nice truck man
Love this. You don’t see anybody making videos of real world towing with different cams. Wondering if this cam along with 4.56 gears would bet me some good bottom end torque in my 5.3. Is your truck on stock gearing?
Go 4.88 gears on 37 inch tires you'll love it so much better since 4.8/5.3's don't have very much bottom end power to begin with, 2500-3000 ish stall too would help a dramatic ammount too
@@chrishansen7004 I agree 4.56s would be fine but 4.88s would be perfect if keeping 37s. I used to own a truck with 38s and 3.73s so I know how you feel…. Never again! Lol
@@chrishansen7004 thinking about getting the stall that comes behind the straight 6 trailblazers. Supposedly they flash to like 2700ish behind a 5.3 and are pretty cheap
This is the exact same drivetrain I am installing in my G10 shorty van. I have the LQ4 and 243 heads just waiting for Truck Norris cam.... My fuel injection is different, I have the FiTech Ultimate LS injection system.
@@JohnnyAnderson1 Yeah, I've seen the comments, it's mostly people that screw up the install and take short cuts from what I see. Done a couple, they are good systems.
Just curious man but I’m looking into getting a cam and I’m pretty new at all this. I have the same truck with the 4l80e. I have some long tube headers with full exhaust system, cold air intake and transcooler, custom tune.. just wondering where I start with adding some more torque. I plan on pulling a travel trailer around 6-7000 pounds
thanks I tuned it to were anytime tow haul is activated the torque converter will lock at any speed in 2nd 3rd or 4th Just dont forget to click the button off if you come to stop and take back off again or 2nd gear will give you a wake up call lol..
Great video! I’m looking forward to seeing how my almost same setup will work considering I have a 2 door s10 blazer. However between the 14 bolt in back 10 bolt up front 4l80e and 38” tires on 24” rims I gained about 1200 lbs wet. Close to 5k. Ill be adding around a 2800 stall converter and I have 5.13 gears in it now. You gonna get this thing on a dyno?
You should seriously add some videos of that blazer, sounds like a beast! I’m fixing to build a bronco very similar. I doubt I’ll ever make it to a dyno with this truck, although a good tune would be NICE… lol
@@JohnnyAnderson1 I’m Vlogging the whole build. Been unemployed since October, before that was on part time furlough. No unemployment money ever came through yet or I’d be way further along. Got a mobile 12v tech position lined up as of now. Just gotta do my drug screening test today and the position should be mine. They’ll give me an Express Van which I’ll be vlogging too 🤣🤣
@@ryanhill5567 I copied a tune from another truck but it needs to be dialed in much better. I’m gonna be getting a wideband and trying to learn some more on the fueling.
Seems like a great cam and overall setup. Looking to do the same with my 62 k10 6.0/4l80 on 35s. Do you think it would be worth going with a higher stall or keeping factory converter? And would you go 4.56 or 4.88 on 35s?
It would depend on what you plan to do with it, I doubt your gonna be towing with a 62 K10 so it would really come down to performance. Even a stock engine will greatly benefit from a stall if performance is your number one priority. But this cam is more designed around increasing power without shifting the "powerband" much higher than stock to allow the stock converter to work fine. If I was doing a gear change and running 35's I would go with 4.88's unless you plan to be going 75mph ALL the time. With that being said if this wasnt my "tow truck" I would add a stall if I had the opportunity, but its certainly not a requirement.
If you don’t mind running premium fuel then I would use a set of 862/706 heads (with the stock lq4 dish pistons) the truck Norris cam, ls6 valve springs and a 2007+ 4.8/5.3 intake (trailblazer ss style intake) Long tube headers and a GOOD TUNE. That will be about as much low end torque as you will be able to get without forced induction or a stroker.
@@amandahugginkiss9119 Compared to stock my truck feels WAY stronger, I wouldn't consider it a "monster" at towing but for a gas power 364 cubic inch engine it does very well lol.
@@JohnnyAnderson1 sweet!not sure if I’m gonna throw a lq9 in it with the btr cam or use the lq4 I have.this motor has almost 280k on it so not sure how much longer it’s gonna last.
Do you think I could get away with using this cam with a stock converter in a 1500/5.3 truck? I’m pretty sure factory stall on my truck is ~1600, and yours being a 6.0/80e is somewhere around ~2200 if I remember correctly
Sounds about right, But keep in mind the 1st gear of the 4L60 you have is lower. The truck will still idle around 700-750 just fine so I don’t see the stock 1500 4l60 converter being an issue.
I would pick this over the stage 2 just to keep low rpm power up. Every dyno I have seen with this cam comparing to a stage 1 or 2 truck cam this cam will make more low speed power and matches the top end power. Now we’re not talking about a huge difference but if your buying the cam why not get the one that makes the most power where you need it. If I had a stock LQ4 and was swapping cams in a truck with stock converter or low stall this would be the cam I would get.
@@JohnnyAnderson1 appreciate ya taking time to comment back, but how you think just a stock lq4 with a cam made more for towing power/torque would tow with a proper tune ?
I have an lq4 6.0 in a 02 gmc sierra denali quadrasteer, I'm lifted on 35s and 4.10 gears so my mpg won't be amazing, but rather not get much lower than what it is now
I posted a video showing the MPG unloaded, it is basically the same as before the cam swap. With a wideband O2 and better tune I know I could get even better, I just don’t drive the truck enough to worry about it.
When in normal drive mode it just operate normally, but I have the torque converter lock speed really low when in tow haul mode so I use the tow haul button for those times I want to lock the converter on long grades at heavy throttle. Basically you can have 2 different transmission tunes and switch between them on the fly with the tow haul button.
It will lock itself at a certain MPH automatically but I have my tune set to have a very low speed TCC engagement when in tow haul mode, So I can manually select the gear I want 2-4 and lock the TCC at any speed by pushing the tow haul button.
Yes, It is VERY close to running out of fuel up top but I don't rev passed 6000 so im still safe. If I took it to 6500 Im almost certain I would need injectors.
Do you think you lost anything power wise using a y pipe and not doing the true dual with X pipe? Your truck was factory dual into muffler and single out right?
Hey do you think that would be a good cam for my 2013 suburban ltz 4x4 5.3 lc9 I'm only got cai and doing dod afm delete but this is my family suv just was trying to have best of both worlds lol
I think it would be perfectly fine, you can tune it easily to have a smooth idle if needed. If I remember right a 2013 should have the 6 speed so it would pull really good with those closer gear ratios and that low first gear. I honestly don’t think there is a better off the shelf cam for a heavy LS powered vehicle. Or anyone wanting extra torque while still gaining good power up top.
@@JohnnyAnderson1 ok cool thanks yea I'm going to probably leave stock exhaust manifold and cats might do a muffler and tailpipe later. wife mainly drives it anyways lol hauling kids around
www.summitracing.com/parts/fmr-11219-fm Thats the muffler in the video, , and no i havent gotten around to changing it yet. It sounds really good as is so its hard to justify cutting it off lol. Once I get some more pipe though I will be making it back into true duals.
@@JohnnyAnderson1 awesome thank you, my truck is just about finished up with about your same setup and I’m wanting something that’s not raspy and is decently quiet. Yours does sound good for sure.
@@cobymcphetridge6719 Yea if your wanting it fairly quiet and not on obnoxious this is a good setup, still has a very deep and nice tone when under load but isn’t that loud at cruising speed.
I doubt it would be much difference, I don’t daily it enough to run a full tank through it without towing something so it might be a while before I know the real fuel mileage of it unloaded. And it’s very hard now to not drive more “spirited” lol But it SHOULD get better mileage, I would average 13.5-14mpg last summer when I drove it more often. I would be curious to run a full tank through it with normal driving and see what it does.
@@JohnnyAnderson1 Lol Yeah dont blame ya to early to tell when you want to get that spirited driving out of your system ,,BTW Did yo notice a big difference in power ? Want to use this cam for my 85 Iroc with the 5.3 I swapped in a couple of years ago
Usually unless your on flat ground or going over 70mph (depending on rear gear ratio) the engine rpm’s will be to low to have enough power to pull hills without downshifting to 3rd. So to keep from allowing the trans to constantly have to downshift it’s usually best to tow in a lower gear. This will depend on the power of the truck, the weight of the load, and as previously mentioned how many hills you will encounter.
@victordelarosa589 if you don't wanna brake it then I wouldn't be running 700hp, gotta be built and tuned right to handle that much power while towing.
What kinda of gas mileage are you seeing with it? Thinking of a 5.3 or 6.0 with this cam in basically the same truck but an obs. The worn out 350 only gets 11 and doesn’t gain speed anywhere but downhill loaded.
This is mainly my tow rig so I never drive it enough unloaded to check the mileage now. Before I did anything to it with the 33s it got 13.5mpg every fill up. I would think it may have gained 1mpg but I won’t know until I actually check it.
It was already on the truck when I bought it before I swapped beds, it’s just some 3/8 plate steel welded to the frame/reinforced with angle iron. Very strong but my last truck has the B&W turnover ball and it was very nice being able to remove the ball from the bed.
@@6secNova Awesome you will love it. It has some "drone" like any exhaust setup will, but it doesnt crackle or pop like my dual exhaust setup did with the factory manifolds. Next test will be going back to duals to see if its the stock manifolds that cause the popping, or the true dual exhaust.. If it were ran all the way out the rear it would certainly be quieter in the cab.
Ive been running 87 octane but I did top it off with 93 before this video (about 10 gallons) so thats about a half and half mix of 87 and 93 in this video which was probably unnecessary.
It might be a little high on cylinder pressure with the early intake closing. If trying it with boost I would keep the 317 heads for sure and watch for detonation in low rpms. But I bet it would pull like a diesel!
I would get a cam that has a looser lobe separation angle this is more or less a max effort low end power truck cam and besides if your boosting your gonna have as much low end power as you want pretty much. Stock cam works great with boost and is gonna be the most fuel efficient way to have a turbo truck, a stage 1-2 truck cam would be best if you really want to have a cam
@@JohnnyAnderson1 they're not too significantly different, maybe a 10-15 drop below 2500rpm? I have a 212/218 on a 6.0 now and it's good, but it feels choked.
@@chesterfield.mcdermott what vehicle is it in? When you say it feels choked what are you comparing it to? A 212 intake duration cam is gonna flatten off fairly early
Unfortunately I can’t find any dyno tests that go from a single 3” to dual 2.5 or dual 3” to compare to. So I’m not sure what kind of effect true duals would have on scavenging at lower rpm’s, say from 1500-3000?
@@JohnnyAnderson1 I have the speed-engineering full system and I got great 2500 to 4000 boost. To the point I am locking the converter 5mph earlier for a mpg boost without any drawbacks. And you will have to retune your ve and maf because it will be a bit off😳😲
@@mauricedavis2905 Nice, this truck spends 99% of its time in the 2500-3500 rpm range so I’d be VERY curious to see the difference in a single true dual 3” setup I’ve been trying to tune but it hasn’t been going very well… lol I ordered a wideband so hopefully that will help 😂
@@mauricedavis2905 Interesting, I’m pretty sure I will be going back to true duals anyway just don’t have time to mess with it right now cause I’m trying to get my trans am going. But that might make a interesting video, wish I had a dyno to test it on.
I would definitely recommend it along with longtubes. Only problem is no one makes a set of longtubes for the 25004x4 6.0. I used a set of headers for a 1500 and while they worked I did have modify the driver side a little to clear the front yoke. From there I would run a dual 2.5”. While the headers are not necessary they will definitely add power where you need it. I would also swap the heads to bump the compression up. And a good tune!!! Only down side is you will probably need to run premium fuel when towing to keep the engine happy. If that’s not an issue then it’s a no brainer.
Is it still running the stock torque converter?
Yes still on the stock converter.
@@JohnnyAnderson1 how is it using the factory stall? I'm about to put the truck Norris in my 05 escalade and I'm keeping the factory one for now
@@tamcphail It has stock like power right off idle so I cant really tell a difference, also it will idle at pretty much stock RPM so normal driving is just like stock.
Tune is the main thing.
@@JohnnyAnderson1 did you run bigger injectors?
@@tamcphail nope, entire fuel system is stock.
The stepside looks killer on the quad cab man
Thanks, I’ve wanted to “make” one for a loooooong time!
@@JohnnyAnderson1 its definitely awesome
MMM, NO.
It really does tho . Reminds me of a Kodiak
I have an 03 Yukon Denali XL and watching this video made me sure I want the Truck Norris cam. I have HPT too so I'll be doing all my own tuning. The engine is out right now and my machinist will be putting everything together for me. Thanks for the great video.
Awesome, you will like it for sure.
Hey seen this comment from forever ago! Another 03 xl yuk owner here lol - did you ever get it back up and towing how does it pull???
@@trihulladventures6567 I did, it runs strong and sounds great. The Truck Norris cam is a great fit with the 6.0 and 799 heads. I recently sold the rig though to pursue an 8.1 build.
Bout to do the same To my 5.3 Tahoe on 33s with 4.30 gears.just picked up a 7x16 vnose trailer. I was worried bout throwing the cam in. This is exactly what I've been looking for. A tow test. Thanks man
Will work great, and thats a perfect gear for 33's
@@JohnnyAnderson1 thanks man
That truck is pretty damn good man, I'd take that over a new truck any day 👍
what the FOKE christian hansingular is that really you? Bro this is brotacular have you caught any pedniggas yet?
Nice truck sounds good ! I was going to mod my 02 2500hd 6.0 but decided to swap it for an 8.1 , pretty easy swap and tons of low end torque !
Nice, I actually looked at a 8.1 but im just so used to working on LS engine I wanted to keep it simple and the 4L80 is much cheaper to rebuild or replace than the Allison that comes with the 8.1
I’d love to see one of those 8.1s with a turbo on it, would be like a diesel that runs on gasoline lol
@@JohnnyAnderson1 check out LT Tolmans channel he put a 8.1 in a 1500 and then turbo it. He been building a 4.8 stepside truck to compare and test with.
@@BDauto86 will check it out thanks
Dude that truck is gorgeous with that step side bed. I’m jealous
Lol thanks man
That's a beautiful truck. Sounds great
Thanks! Would sound even better if I wasn't having to record with my phone lol.
Yes! The truck is super clean and enjoyed the video. Had a snag up with my 706 P&P Heads being scammed for my money. Waiting on being refunded by the charge back and considering 799 junkyard pulls and doing the P&P myself then having them milled .010" then I'll be abke to get the install finished and my build video up. Thanks for this video!
Glad you liked it! I lightly ported a set of 243s and 706 heads and they worked great both times. Just don’t take away much material in the runners, mainly just smooth the bowls up and enjoy!
@@JohnnyAnderson1 Yeah, I've been hit with the delima of boring too much out on accident since Im not doing this 24/7 and it'll be my first attempt. I know it's all about the bowl and valve guide as I've watched eric weingartner and david visar talk about porting and coefficient of discharge, and how "porters" ruin cylinder heads with boring the throats out and going to big with valve seat upgrades. I'm tempted to just drop the $1400-1600 at a shop in Alabama with 799 heads ported and bigger intake/exhaust valves and just call it a day and not deal with the headeach haha. I'm just making everything more difficult as it shoukd just be a simple 706 or 799 swap.
@@n8vjefe .. I know what you mean, my leaking water pump turned into a heads/cam swap.... lol
@@JohnnyAnderson1 it's the only way to justify it with the wife after we talk ourself into it too ahahah. Well, this went out so, it's just a matter of time and since im there, I might as well.. right? 😅
@@n8vjefe i put milled 243s on my lq4, nice choice, great power thru while band
Truck sounds AMAZING!
Thanks
Thinking about doing this on my 07 Classic bowtie 1500 (4.8L) LR4 engine. Has 3.23 rear gear. No one has made a 8 or 10 speed tcm to retrofit to the LS block yet so i guess a 6L90 that's been redone for 1 OD gear will have to be settled for.
It would definitely improve power, but if your not gonna be adding boost I would try and atleast find a decent 5.3 to swap in at the same time to add some extra torque. Not sure what your budget is though. Sounds like an awesome project!
Zero gravity performance has an 8 speed controller
@@JohnnyAnderson1 i acquired a 5.7 iron (5.3 bored out) 799/243 heads after the 4.8 had gotten water in the sump, on that lq4 are you using stock injectors?
Great info. I’m putting a Truck Norris cam in a 1500 with the vortex max 6.0. I pull a 7700 lb camper around and this cam should give me the midrange boost it needs.
Nice, yes you will defiantly appreciate the improved midrange power!
@@JohnnyAnderson1 "defiantly"? Definitely??
How hard is it to do a cam swap. I have an 06 Sierra 2500 hd 6.0 that just seems to struggle a bit climbing hills pulling my camper. I'd like to get more power out of it. It's completely stock as of now
@@2bearms did you do anything yet? One of my favorite real world cam swap videos is on the channel Dinoco Blue iirc. Shows the dowel method where you don't have to take the heads off. Sometimes its better just to pay the $3k for a shop to install and tune it and everything. Just depends on your circumstances.
Idle sounds nice. I dig it.
Still holding back on my stock 6.0 w 187k w trucool trans cooler.
But soon very soon.
I tow 8-9k through west coast mountains upto 7000’. I rev the shit out of it on the mountains both going up and down. I often hold 4500-5000rpm for 2-3 minutes.
I need bigger radiator or better fan clutch because i see around 230 coolant temp at the top of the hill.
@akka7556 Well honestly that's where you will notice the most power increase is when revving above 3000, I'd definitely do it if your pulling that much weight alot.
I have a +.030 5.3 in a 2001 Tahoe that is freshly rebuilt. Made the mistake of using dished pistons and a BTR towing cam. It’s a little anemic but a solid runner!! Has a towing TC and trans & transfer are fresh. It sounds like the Truck Norris would be great for towing!! I tow about 5,000 lbs on a regular basis. Thoughts?
The cam you have now would be just as good as the TN cam for towing, the only advantage you would more than likely notice would be above 4000 or so rpm. I don't think it would be worth swapping otherwise.
Just what I was looking for. Sounds good.
Just from what I am seeing it is getting power at 2800 or so if you keep it there pulls good tuning this cam is definitely a challenge with that low lsa a 212/218 is a good cam with low end and top end and makes all the power by 2200 or so but nice truck man
thanks!
Nice truck, like the exhaust note. At idle is the exhaust clean or is it rich?
With no cats every exhaust will smell rich. You could run high flow cats and maybe still hear some chop at idle to clean the exhaust smell some.
Excellent video brotha 🔥🔥💪🏾
Thanks glad you liked it
I'm cutting the heads when I build my motor for 10:3 - 10.6 : 1 compression
That would be perfect, remember you will need to measure and order shorter pushrods but you probably already know that.
Love this. You don’t see anybody making videos of real world towing with different cams. Wondering if this cam along with 4.56 gears would bet me some good bottom end torque in my 5.3. Is your truck on stock gearing?
It is stock geared but it did come with 4.10s and is on 33s. That would be a great combo for a 5.3.
@@JohnnyAnderson1 yea i’m on 37s and stock 3.42s so i need all the grunt i can get. the gears should compliment the cam and vise versa
Go 4.88 gears on 37 inch tires you'll love it so much better since 4.8/5.3's don't have very much bottom end power to begin with, 2500-3000 ish stall too would help a dramatic ammount too
@@chrishansen7004 I agree 4.56s would be fine but 4.88s would be perfect if keeping 37s.
I used to own a truck with 38s and 3.73s so I know how you feel…. Never again! Lol
@@chrishansen7004 thinking about getting the stall that comes behind the straight 6 trailblazers. Supposedly they flash to like 2700ish behind a 5.3 and are pretty cheap
I'm sure it will be fine it was already stock and the truck Norris pretty much makes more power everywhere
Definitely going to get that cam for my h2 pair up with some 706 heads and long tubes
This is the exact same drivetrain I am installing in my G10 shorty van. I have the LQ4 and 243 heads just waiting for Truck Norris cam.... My fuel injection is different, I have the FiTech Ultimate LS injection system.
Awesome, hope the Fitech is better for you than it is for others. you will love this engine combo!
@@JohnnyAnderson1
Yeah, I've seen the comments, it's mostly people that screw up the install and take short cuts from what I see. Done a couple, they are good systems.
Just curious man but I’m looking into getting a cam and I’m pretty new at all this. I have the same truck with the 4l80e. I have some long tube headers with full exhaust system, cold air intake and transcooler, custom tune.. just wondering where I start with adding some more torque. I plan on pulling a travel trailer around 6-7000 pounds
This cam will definitely improve torque and is pretty easy to live with. Good tune is a MUST…
Giddy up son
PYO's on the trailer hell yeah!
Whats a pyo?
After the cam swap how are the mpg ?
@kingsosa553 exactly the same, I have a video breaking it down better but it was basically no change.
Awesome truck. How do you lock your converter in third?
thanks
I tuned it to were anytime tow haul is activated the torque converter will lock at any speed in 2nd 3rd or 4th
Just dont forget to click the button off if you come to stop and take back off again or 2nd gear will give you a wake up call lol..
Great video! I’m looking forward to seeing how my almost same setup will work considering I have a 2 door s10 blazer. However between the 14 bolt in back 10 bolt up front 4l80e and 38” tires on 24” rims I gained about 1200 lbs wet. Close to 5k. Ill be adding around a 2800 stall converter and I have 5.13 gears in it now. You gonna get this thing on a dyno?
You should seriously add some videos of that blazer, sounds like a beast! I’m fixing to build a bronco very similar. I doubt I’ll ever make it to a dyno with this truck, although a good tune would be NICE… lol
@@JohnnyAnderson1 I’m Vlogging the whole build. Been unemployed since October, before that was on part time furlough. No unemployment money ever came through yet or I’d be way further along. Got a mobile 12v tech position lined up as of now. Just gotta do my drug screening test today and the position should be mine. They’ll give me an Express Van which I’ll be vlogging too 🤣🤣
@@IAM_HC lol
@@JohnnyAnderson1 so that’s without a tune? Factory get up and go? Wow!
@@ryanhill5567 I copied a tune from another truck but it needs to be dialed in much better. I’m gonna be getting a wideband and trying to learn some more on the fueling.
very helpful, thank you! 🙏
Love the scripture in the beginning I’m thinking about using that cam for my 2500 how did your transmission do 4l60 or 80?
Thanks man, cam is great and transmission is 4L80E.
Amazing location, can you partially reveal the location where the intro was shot?
Thank you!
Thanks, Tennessee
Seems like a great cam and overall setup. Looking to do the same with my 62 k10 6.0/4l80 on 35s. Do you think it would be worth going with a higher stall or keeping factory converter? And would you go 4.56 or 4.88 on 35s?
It would depend on what you plan to do with it, I doubt your gonna be towing with a 62 K10 so it would really come down to performance. Even a stock engine will greatly benefit from a stall if performance is your number one priority. But this cam is more designed around increasing power without shifting the "powerband" much higher than stock to allow the stock converter to work fine. If I was doing a gear change and running 35's I would go with 4.88's unless you plan to be going 75mph ALL the time.
With that being said if this wasnt my "tow truck" I would add a stall if I had the opportunity, but its certainly not a requirement.
@@JohnnyAnderson1 Appreciate the info! thank you
I have a stock LQ4 and I wanna build it for torque I’m just not sure where to start. Great video thank you. Any tips if you don’t mind me asking?
If you don’t mind running premium fuel then I would use a set of 862/706 heads (with the stock lq4 dish pistons) the truck Norris cam, ls6 valve springs and a 2007+ 4.8/5.3 intake (trailblazer ss style intake)
Long tube headers and a GOOD TUNE.
That will be about as much low end torque as you will be able to get without forced induction or a stroker.
@@JohnnyAnderson1 awesome thank you, I wanna use it as a towing monster. It does pretty good stock but nothing wrong with more power 😂
@@amandahugginkiss9119 Compared to stock my truck feels WAY stronger, I wouldn't consider it a "monster" at towing but for a gas power 364 cubic inch engine it does very well lol.
Are you still running the stock converter?thinking about this cam for my 04 2500
Yes I am, I should have mentioned that in the video.
@@JohnnyAnderson1 sweet!not sure if I’m gonna throw a lq9 in it with the btr cam or use the lq4 I have.this motor has almost 280k on it so not sure how much longer it’s gonna last.
@@joshziler2549 if the oil has been changed and it hasn’t been overheated I have seen them passed 400,000 and still going strong
Looks like it runs good. About to put the same cam in my LQ4. Gas motors just drink the fuel towing, but they can do OK
Do you think I could get away with using this cam with a stock converter in a 1500/5.3 truck? I’m pretty sure factory stall on my truck is ~1600, and yours being a 6.0/80e is somewhere around ~2200 if I remember correctly
Sounds about right, But keep in mind the 1st gear of the 4L60 you have is lower. The truck will still idle around 700-750 just fine so I don’t see the stock 1500 4l60 converter being an issue.
Right on, thank you!
Wonder how this or a stage 2 truck cam would do with a bone stock lq4 with some exhaust work ?
I would pick this over the stage 2 just to keep low rpm power up. Every dyno I have seen with this cam comparing to a stage 1 or 2 truck cam this cam will make more low speed power and matches the top end power. Now we’re not talking about a huge difference but if your buying the cam why not get the one that makes the most power where you need it.
If I had a stock LQ4 and was swapping cams in a truck with stock converter or low stall this would be the cam I would get.
@@JohnnyAnderson1 appreciate ya taking time to comment back, but how you think just a stock lq4 with a cam made more for towing power/torque would tow with a proper tune ?
@@jacobdewitt863 no problem, it will still pick up power just adding a point of compression will gain you another 10-15hp and tq
What is gas mileage on it with the cam not towing? I'm trying to upgrade cams and don't want to kill my mpg
I have an lq4 6.0 in a 02 gmc sierra denali quadrasteer, I'm lifted on 35s and 4.10 gears so my mpg won't be amazing, but rather not get much lower than what it is now
I posted a video showing the MPG unloaded, it is basically the same as before the cam swap. With a wideband O2 and better tune I know I could get even better, I just don’t drive the truck enough to worry about it.
How’s the MPG. Unloaded after the mods
Exactly the same as before, seems to be completely unaffected.
@@JohnnyAnderson1 awesome going to do the upgrades then thanks man awesome built keep doing more mods and vids !
@@alexayala6720 might go turbo when I get time one day
Are you using your computer to lock the convertor or do you have it wired to a switch?
When in normal drive mode it just operate normally, but I have the torque converter lock speed really low when in tow haul mode so I use the tow haul button for those times I want to lock the converter on long grades at heavy throttle.
Basically you can have 2 different transmission tunes and switch between them on the fly with the tow haul button.
How do you lock the TCC?
It will lock itself at a certain MPH automatically but I have my tune set to have a very low speed TCC engagement when in tow haul mode, So I can manually select the gear I want 2-4 and lock the TCC at any speed by pushing the tow haul button.
The truck norris doesn't really make much more power at like 2500 rpm right im surprised at 75% throttle it does downshift at those rpms
In the 6.0, it seems to start making more power than the stock cam around 2000 rpm. Below that I can tell no difference.
Send me link to everything I wana build my lq4
Great video! Still running stock injectors?
Yes, It is VERY close to running out of fuel up top but I don't rev passed 6000 so im still safe. If I took it to 6500 Im almost certain I would need injectors.
Do you think you lost anything power wise using a y pipe and not doing the true dual with X pipe? Your truck was factory dual into muffler and single out right?
I doubt it would be a noticeable difference, I am gonna go back to a dual setup when I get time though if I don’t decide to turbo it.
Hey do you think that would be a good cam for my 2013 suburban ltz 4x4 5.3 lc9 I'm only got cai and doing dod afm delete but this is my family suv just was trying to have best of both worlds lol
I think it would be perfectly fine, you can tune it easily to have a smooth idle if needed. If I remember right a 2013 should have the 6 speed so it would pull really good with those closer gear ratios and that low first gear.
I honestly don’t think there is a better off the shelf cam for a heavy LS powered vehicle. Or anyone wanting extra torque while still gaining good power up top.
@@JohnnyAnderson1 ok cool thanks yea I'm going to probably leave stock exhaust manifold and cats might do a muffler and tailpipe later. wife mainly drives it anyways lol hauling kids around
Look up Richard holder he does testing and has tested this cam compared to BTR stage truck cams
3rd gear 55 mph @ 2200ish RPM ... what you got 3.73:1 rear?
4.10
Have you gotten the exhaust changed since the video? And also what muffler are you running in this video?
www.summitracing.com/parts/fmr-11219-fm
Thats the muffler in the video, , and no i havent gotten around to changing it yet. It sounds really good as is so its hard to justify cutting it off lol.
Once I get some more pipe though I will be making it back into true duals.
@@JohnnyAnderson1 awesome thank you, my truck is just about finished up with about your same setup and I’m wanting something that’s not raspy and is decently quiet. Yours does sound good for sure.
@@cobymcphetridge6719 Yea if your wanting it fairly quiet and not on obnoxious this is a good setup, still has a very deep and nice tone when under load but isn’t that loud at cruising speed.
@@JohnnyAnderson1 awesome thank you
@@cobymcphetridge6719 No problem have fun with your build.
Did the stepside bed bolt on or you had to modify it to fit ?
Bolts right on, fuel filler neck and rear bumper are the only differences.
@@JohnnyAnderson1 Thanks
Info on that gauge cluster? I like to know where you got it.
It's from a 2001-2002 eacalade
Hopefully your cam lobe doesn't fall off and while its at the machine shop getting new pistons your torque converter expires on you.
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@@JohnnyAnderson1 It's a joke from sloppy public. I'm not that dumb!
Where did you get the stuff to customize your cluster?
It's just a 2002 denali or escalade cluster I can't remember which one
How is this possible!?
I know right!
Did the longtube headers change any of the sound
Definitely
What size tires? This cam is looking better and better
33's
Nice truck ,,Have you notice any changes on the MPGs ?
I doubt it would be much difference, I don’t daily it enough to run a full tank through it without towing something so it might be a while before I know the real fuel mileage of it unloaded. And it’s very hard now to not drive more “spirited” lol
But it SHOULD get better mileage, I would average 13.5-14mpg last summer when I drove it more often. I would be curious to run a full tank through it with normal driving and see what it does.
@@JohnnyAnderson1 Lol Yeah dont blame ya to early to tell when you want to get that spirited driving out of your system ,,BTW Did yo notice a big difference in power ? Want to use this cam for my 85 Iroc with the 5.3 I swapped in a couple of years ago
@@DELTRANIO99 yes, definitely a very noticeable increase in power and the best part is it’s even down low in the rpm range.
@@JohnnyAnderson1 Good to know thank you will be doing this in the near future
What is the reason for towing in 3rd gear?
Looking to be educated. Thanks
Usually unless your on flat ground or going over 70mph (depending on rear gear ratio) the engine rpm’s will be to low to have enough power to pull hills without downshifting to 3rd.
So to keep from allowing the trans to constantly have to downshift it’s usually best to tow in a lower gear. This will depend on the power of the truck, the weight of the load, and as previously mentioned how many hills you will encounter.
@@JohnnyAnderson1 what gears are you running?
@@davidwellington8429 factory 4.10s
Can you do a towing tuno on a truck built for a 700hp?
I can't, but there are plenty of people who can
@@JohnnyAnderson1 but is this possible ? I don’t want to brake my motor
@victordelarosa589 if you don't wanna brake it then I wouldn't be running 700hp, gotta be built and tuned right to handle that much power while towing.
@@JohnnyAnderson1 yes sir that’s what I mean a tune to tow like something that will turn all that down.
@victordelarosa589 yes I would definitely keep the boost down reasonable and keep the air intake charge as cool as possible.
What kinda of gas mileage are you seeing with it? Thinking of a 5.3 or 6.0 with this cam in basically the same truck but an obs. The worn out 350 only gets 11 and doesn’t gain speed anywhere but downhill loaded.
This is mainly my tow rig so I never drive it enough unloaded to check the mileage now. Before I did anything to it with the 33s it got 13.5mpg every fill up. I would think it may have gained 1mpg but I won’t know until I actually check it.
@@JohnnyAnderson1any update on gas mileage?
What kind of hitch mount did you get for the gooseneck?
It was already on the truck when I bought it before I swapped beds, it’s just some 3/8 plate steel welded to the frame/reinforced with angle iron. Very strong but my last truck has the B&W turnover ball and it was very nice being able to remove the ball from the bed.
Have a stupid question what did you do to your truck and why? Make it easy for me to understand.
Smaller chamber heads to increase compression, camshaft to increase airflow to engine, headers for sound and more air flow…
All this makes more power
@@JohnnyAnderson1 thanks how much does this all cost?
@@zachariahmagallan5738 I did all the work myself, but the parts cost would be around $1500-2000
@@JohnnyAnderson1 man I wish you made a video of how to do the work
@@zachariahmagallan5738 there are several good videos on that
Any milling on the 799’s?
Nope they came straight off a 2007 5.3
How much more fuel does it use ?
I have fuel mileage report video and the fuel consumption was about the same as before the cam.
That's a desiel?
6.0 Gas
How much power did your truck dyno ?
Never dynoed it
What’s the size of that trailer?
18foot deck, 2ft dovetail
Running 87 octane?
93
What gears do you have in the rear?
4L80 and stock 4.10's
Do you have a link to the muffler you used?
www.summitracing.com/parts/fmr-11219-fm
I’ll add it to the description
@@JohnnyAnderson1 thanks man the video made me order all the parts last week from btr for my 2500
do you notice any droning or crackle/popping with this muffler? it didnt sound like it in the video
@@6secNova Awesome you will love it.
It has some "drone" like any exhaust setup will, but it doesnt crackle or pop like my dual exhaust setup did with the factory manifolds. Next test will be going back to duals to see if its the stock manifolds that cause the popping, or the true dual exhaust..
If it were ran all the way out the rear it would certainly be quieter in the cab.
Better get that t case seal changed
I know… it was empty when I bought the truck 😂
Do you run premium or E85?
Ive been running 87 octane but I did top it off with 93 before this video (about 10 gallons) so thats about a half and half mix of 87 and 93 in this video which was probably unnecessary.
What gears?
4.10
How do you think this cam would do with some boost? I’ve got a 2002 2500hd and want to add a turbo and use it to DD and tow.
It might be a little high on cylinder pressure with the early intake closing. If trying it with boost I would keep the 317 heads for sure and watch for detonation in low rpms. But I bet it would pull like a diesel!
I would get a cam that has a looser lobe separation angle this is more or less a max effort low end power truck cam and besides if your boosting your gonna have as much low end power as you want pretty much. Stock cam works great with boost and is gonna be the most fuel efficient way to have a turbo truck, a stage 1-2 truck cam would be best if you really want to have a cam
@@chrishansen7004 Exactly, if I were going turbo I would probably go with the summit 8720 or just keep the stock cam.
How do u tune your computer
Hp tuners
And countless hours of learning how 😂
Has anyone tried this with the "best cam" ??
That should be a good cam but it will lose a little power down low compared to this one or the stock cam.
@@JohnnyAnderson1 they're not too significantly different, maybe a 10-15 drop below 2500rpm? I have a 212/218 on a 6.0 now and it's good, but it feels choked.
@@chesterfield.mcdermott what’s the LSA on your cam?
@@JohnnyAnderson1 112 with .550 lift
@@chesterfield.mcdermott what vehicle is it in? When you say it feels choked what are you comparing it to? A 212 intake duration cam is gonna flatten off fairly early
This cam performs better with the 6.0 than 5.3
I would think every cam would perform better with a 6.0 than a 5.3… that’s not to say it won’t give great gains with a 5.3 though?
A diesel truck doing 60 on 3rd gear? Unbelievable 😱
My man it's a gas job Chevy 6.0 you silly goose
Romans 9:16, 21, 22
Truth
You think your neighbors a Ross the street wanna sell that c10
Unfortunately not, it’s a short bed f100.
@@JohnnyAnderson1 thanks bro
You will be surprised how much torque you get for a full tru dual exhaust system 😉
Unfortunately I can’t find any dyno tests that go from a single 3” to dual 2.5 or dual 3” to compare to. So I’m not sure what kind of effect true duals would have on scavenging at lower rpm’s, say from 1500-3000?
@@JohnnyAnderson1 I have the speed-engineering full system and I got great 2500 to 4000 boost. To the point I am locking the converter 5mph earlier for a mpg boost without any drawbacks. And you will have to retune your ve and maf because it will be a bit off😳😲
@@mauricedavis2905 Nice, this truck spends 99% of its time in the 2500-3500 rpm range so I’d be VERY curious to see the difference in a single true dual 3” setup
I’ve been trying to tune but it hasn’t been going very well… lol I ordered a wideband so hopefully that will help 😂
@@JohnnyAnderson1 with a true dual you can add more timing and it will not knock as easily.
@@mauricedavis2905 Interesting, I’m pretty sure I will be going back to true duals anyway just don’t have time to mess with it right now cause I’m trying to get my trans am going. But that might make a interesting video, wish I had a dyno to test it on.
I have a 03 2500HD 4x4 with 35 and 456 gears I use for towing my toyhauler would you recommend this cam and what other mods would you recommend
I would definitely recommend it along with longtubes. Only problem is no one makes a set of longtubes for the 25004x4 6.0. I used a set of headers for a 1500 and while they worked I did have modify the driver side a little to clear the front yoke. From there I would run a dual 2.5”. While the headers are not necessary they will definitely add power where you need it. I would also swap the heads to bump the compression up.
And a good tune!!!
Only down side is you will probably need to run premium fuel when towing to keep the engine happy.
If that’s not an issue then it’s a no brainer.
@@JohnnyAnderson1 thanks for your response unfortunately I live in commiefornia so headers for me is a no go due to smog
@@TheMrclos805g no problem, the cam is probably a no go also then I would assume?