Si seulement nos amis américains pouvaient apprécier. Le sujet est peut-être trop intellectuel... comme l'article des Cahiers du cinéma sur Hitchcock en 1956. Merci beaucoup pour votre commentaire.
As relates to the video clip, I've contemplated spending some more time studying sonification but not sure if it is my best use of time. I'm not sure if that was just included as a fictional way to depict translation across a vast communication barrier, or something palpable. For example the sonification of the Galaxy as we've seen NASA do, I haven't been able to appreciate it in a way that I'm extracting anything important to understanding from it. Any thoughts?
@SunSolSys, your question is a really good prompt into the topic of CETI, Communication with Extraterrestrial Intelligence... which is a branch of SETI.... as well as data mining and data analysis. It would take some time to fully develop a complete response to your question, but here are a few points that may help motivate your interest. 1. If you look, you might find as many as 12 creatures on planet Earth that don't have eyes or traditional vision, and another 12 who don't have ears or traditional hearing. 2. We know that credible astronomers and UFOlogists J Allen Hynek and Robert Jastrow have proposed non-corporeal intelligent beings. Instead of sight or hearing, they may operate using other sensory tools which humans don't typically use. ruclips.net/video/iurnWJ3-krI/видео.html 3. The 5 tones from Steven Spielberg's Close Encounters of the Third Kind are really designed to be a simple greeting (think 5 tone HELLO) and they could not really sonify a complex data set of interest without extending them in some way... but in the context of CE3K, we should expect that such could be and would be done. 4. I support Point 3 by way of Spielberg's own words from an interview in which he said: "I just felt like 5 notes would be much more like a HELLO. And 7 notes would suddenly sound like a melody. I didn’t want a melody. I wanted a greeting." 5. Spielberg had composer/conductor John Williams take up the challenge and he played with just 350 out of thousands of combinations possible with the 12-tone chromatic scale. Out of the "cheerful" Ab Major Pentatonic Scale, Williams chose two of the notes to be the same... symbolic of the double LL in HELLO. In the solfège Solmization (a key term, given your interest and moniker) this is depicted as: Re, Mi, Do, Do, So with the second Do being one octave lower than the first. 6. One of the simplest examples of Sonification has been the Geiger Counter... and you know that pollution and climate change data has been sonified. 7. Sonification would be very powerful when combined with a 4D virtual reality environment where one's exploratory movements in a spacetime of variable density lead to changes in the audible presentation. 8. To hint at the DEEPEST meaning of the CE3K 5 tone presentation I ask the following Question for your feedback: Q1. Have you ever seen the alleged derivation of the Solfeggio frequencies from out of the Hebrew Tanakh?
@@SunSolSys so the reference to sourcing the Solfeggio Frequencies to content in the Hebrew Tanakh is not about traditional numerology but more about a coding technique that really does appear to have preserved quality information... in a way similar to the proven use of Gematria Alpha Numeric Codes or how the Song of Solomon preserves information regarding the psychoactive Amanita Muscaria and Psilocybin mushrooms... which we can provably trace back through Da Vinci's Last Supper to the New Testament and Pompey's resettlement of the Cilician Pirates from the Mithridatic Wars. I will answer your other questions... but I would like to first demonstrate the objective validity of the proposed connection before we move to other topics. Are you okay if I adopt a Socratic approach to build up our mutually shared knowledge on this topic... before I move to answer your other questions?
@SunSolSys, I went to respond this morning, but I cannot find your follow up comment. I will see if I have a record of it and try to restore it. Meanwhile... however... here is another example of Sonification used in Radio Astronomy... it starts about 1 minute 38 seconds into the video linked here: ruclips.net/video/b8QQtDmvMdM/видео.html
@@TomOwensUAP Thank you. It is okay. I sense you are busy anyhow, so it's better that I not question you into a lane of molasses... But I will say for a moment there, seeing your efficiency in your pass-post replies, I was beginng to suspect perhaps you are were an off-worlder just enjoying a little RUclips interactivity 😉
@@SunSolSys thank you for the kind comments. Even if I was... you know I couldn't ~openly~ admit it... so the ideal arrangement is to just work the Q&A exchange to share information for the benefit of ALL life on this planet. I found your comment in the backup area that I set up. I will retrieve it, quote you and then answer. Thank you for hitting the ball back into my court.
Très intéressant... Merci beaucoup.
Si seulement nos amis américains pouvaient apprécier. Le sujet est peut-être trop intellectuel... comme l'article des Cahiers du cinéma sur Hitchcock en 1956. Merci beaucoup pour votre commentaire.
As relates to the video clip, I've contemplated spending some more time studying sonification but not sure if it is my best use of time. I'm not sure if that was just included as a fictional way to depict translation across a vast communication barrier, or something palpable. For example the sonification of the Galaxy as we've seen NASA do, I haven't been able to appreciate it in a way that I'm extracting anything important to understanding from it. Any thoughts?
@SunSolSys, your question is a really good prompt into the topic of CETI, Communication with Extraterrestrial Intelligence... which is a branch of SETI.... as well as data mining and data analysis. It would take some time to fully develop a complete response to your question, but here are a few points that may help motivate your interest.
1. If you look, you might find as many as 12 creatures on planet Earth that don't have eyes or traditional vision, and another 12 who don't have ears or traditional hearing.
2. We know that credible astronomers and UFOlogists J Allen Hynek and Robert Jastrow have proposed non-corporeal intelligent beings. Instead of sight or hearing, they may operate using other sensory tools which humans don't typically use.
ruclips.net/video/iurnWJ3-krI/видео.html
3. The 5 tones from Steven Spielberg's Close Encounters of the Third Kind are really designed to be a simple greeting (think 5 tone HELLO) and they could not really sonify a complex data set of interest without extending them in some way... but in the context of CE3K, we should expect that such could be and would be done.
4. I support Point 3 by way of Spielberg's own words from an interview in which he said: "I just felt like 5 notes would be much more like a HELLO. And 7 notes would suddenly sound like a melody. I didn’t want a melody. I wanted a greeting."
5. Spielberg had composer/conductor John Williams take up the challenge and he played with just 350 out of thousands of combinations possible with the 12-tone chromatic scale. Out of the "cheerful" Ab Major Pentatonic Scale, Williams chose two of the notes to be the same... symbolic of the double LL in HELLO.
In the solfège Solmization (a key term, given your interest and moniker) this is depicted as:
Re, Mi, Do, Do, So with the second Do being one octave lower than the first.
6. One of the simplest examples of Sonification has been the Geiger Counter... and you know that pollution and climate change data has been sonified.
7. Sonification would be very powerful when combined with a 4D virtual reality environment where one's exploratory movements in a spacetime of variable density lead to changes in the audible presentation.
8. To hint at the DEEPEST meaning of the CE3K 5 tone presentation I ask the following Question for your feedback:
Q1. Have you ever seen the alleged derivation of the Solfeggio frequencies from out of the Hebrew Tanakh?
@@SunSolSys so the reference to sourcing the Solfeggio Frequencies to content in the Hebrew Tanakh is not about traditional numerology but more about a coding technique that really does appear to have preserved quality information... in a way similar to the proven use of Gematria Alpha Numeric Codes or how the Song of Solomon preserves information regarding the psychoactive Amanita Muscaria and Psilocybin mushrooms... which we can provably trace back through Da Vinci's Last Supper to the New Testament and Pompey's resettlement of the Cilician Pirates from the Mithridatic Wars.
I will answer your other questions... but I would like to first demonstrate the objective validity of the proposed connection before we move to other topics.
Are you okay if I adopt a Socratic approach to build up our mutually shared knowledge on this topic... before I move to answer your other questions?
@SunSolSys, I went to respond this morning, but I cannot find your follow up comment. I will see if I have a record of it and try to restore it. Meanwhile... however... here is another example of Sonification used in Radio Astronomy... it starts about 1 minute 38 seconds into the video linked here:
ruclips.net/video/b8QQtDmvMdM/видео.html
@@TomOwensUAP Thank you. It is okay. I sense you are busy anyhow, so it's better that I not question you into a lane of molasses... But I will say for a moment there, seeing your efficiency in your pass-post replies, I was beginng to suspect perhaps you are were an off-worlder just enjoying a little RUclips interactivity 😉
@@SunSolSys thank you for the kind comments. Even if I was... you know I couldn't ~openly~ admit it... so the ideal arrangement is to just work the Q&A exchange to share information for the benefit of ALL life on this planet. I found your comment in the backup area that I set up. I will retrieve it, quote you and then answer. Thank you for hitting the ball back into my court.