Just wanted to say, at least at the time I'm watching this, I can hear Malpass perfectly well enough to understand him and enjoy the discussion. It's unfortunate that there are audio issues, but you seem to have fixed them enough. Thank you very much for hosting this great debate between two leading thinkers!
Give my regards to Prof. Wes Morriston - I was a grad student in one of his classes on Hume and philosophy of Religion. I meant to complete my PH.D. at CU Boulder - but life had other plans - and now find myself in France for very complicated reasons. He was by far one of my favorite profs. at CU Boulder (where also I had the time of my life during the 7 years I was there. Leaving Boulder Colorado was the worst decision I ever made in my life.). Do fix that microphone!
As I understand the argument we can simply say that there NEVER was a time when the universe did not exist - it has ALWAYS existed - in which case the question about HOW it got started simply does not arise. One might object to the notion that the universe has ALWAYS existed, but that's a separate question.
First off, I believe that Koons would just say universe is temporal and you need atemporal agent to explain time. So you deny big bang theory? Don’t most physicists lean toward the view that the universe is finite? Why should we believe the universe always existed? Wouldn’t we want to avoid brute facts?
@@JohnSmith-bq6nfthat misses the point entirely. Say the big Bang is true, does it say there was time before the big Bang? No. Therefore the universe has existed for all of time, which means it has always existed. It began to exist, and it has always existed.
Problem is no one agrees on what time is , I argue time is a measurement of a phenomenon of the assumed big bang , in the past it was the day length ,stars movement ,seasons etc . Today we measure atomic decay . Conclusion Before time there was energy in some state or anther . Which leads to a whole new line of questions .
@@PercyTinglish I just said that time is a measurement the question or debate is what are we measuring ,I suggest we are measuring the expansion indirectly today time is measured by atomic decay . Time is a measurement as is length weight etc .
Does the universe have a course ? I don't know ! If it does I'm pretty sure that cause is not a magic or verbal spell by a none physical entirety beyond time and space .
Energy can neither be created nor destroyed, only transformed. What reason is there to assume that the universe we see is anything more than transformed energy that has always existed?
Just wanted to say, at least at the time I'm watching this, I can hear Malpass perfectly well enough to understand him and enjoy the discussion. It's unfortunate that there are audio issues, but you seem to have fixed them enough. Thank you very much for hosting this great debate between two leading thinkers!
This is unwatchable because of how bad Malpass' mic is.
Apologies for that one :/
It's not THAT bad
Oh. It's this creature again. You ever make that argument?
The sound is problematic
Turn on subtitles
Appreciate the reupload. I was having trouble getting through the first one. Hopefully this one has fixed all of the hijinks
👋🏼 nice to see you about Alex .
Give my regards to Prof. Wes Morriston - I was a grad student in one of his classes on Hume and philosophy of Religion. I meant to complete my PH.D. at CU Boulder - but life had other plans - and now find myself in France for very complicated reasons. He was by far one of my favorite profs. at CU Boulder (where also I had the time of my life during the 7 years I was there. Leaving Boulder Colorado was the worst decision I ever made in my life.). Do fix that microphone!
As I understand the argument we can simply say that there NEVER was a time when the universe did not exist - it has ALWAYS existed - in which case the question about HOW it got started simply does not arise. One might object to the notion that the universe has ALWAYS existed, but that's a separate question.
First off, I believe that Koons would just say universe is temporal and you need atemporal agent to explain time. So you deny big bang theory? Don’t most physicists lean toward the view that the universe is finite? Why should we believe the universe always existed? Wouldn’t we want to avoid brute facts?
@@JohnSmith-bq6nfthat misses the point entirely. Say the big Bang is true, does it say there was time before the big Bang? No. Therefore the universe has existed for all of time, which means it has always existed. It began to exist, and it has always existed.
Problem is no one agrees on what time is , I argue time is a measurement of a phenomenon of the assumed big bang , in the past it was the day length ,stars movement ,seasons etc . Today we measure atomic decay . Conclusion Before time there was energy in some state or anther . Which leads to a whole new line of questions .
@@odinallfarther6038 you're confusing what time is with how to measure time, they aren't the same.
@@PercyTinglish I just said that time is a measurement the question or debate is what are we measuring ,I suggest we are measuring the expansion indirectly today time is measured by atomic decay . Time is a measurement as is length weight etc .
Koons was a very good professor. Much thanks! I will say that if I see Malpass, I watch, like, comment and share :)
An uncaused being ? what does he mean by being ? A god ? His god ?
No
necessary being in his case yes god
@@JohnSmith-bq6nf no such thing as a necessary being !
@@odinallfarther6038 then what was initial state of reality?
@@JohnSmith-bq6nf if Eisenstein was right in energy cannot be created of destroyed , then the answer would be energy in some state or anther .
Doesn't existential inertia counter Rob's argument?
Can't you run this thru an AI noise fixer of some sort? I wanna watch it but can't get past malplass audio
@@chasetherushpodcast2534 I’ll see. I’d have to reupload it again
@@TheRepugnantConclusion please please please.
@@TheRepugnantConclusion I think maybe you will get more views if you do.
@@chasetherushpodcast2534 my editor thinks that running it through more edits may make it seem unnatural
@@chasetherushpodcast2534 it might get a bit robotic
this was a beatdown. Rob is a beast, a truly first rate Philosopher.
You're easily impressed 😂
Dang that mic is bad. Too bad. Can’t hear malpass
Oh well maybe next time
Turn on subs
Ask for your money back! 😂
Does the universe have a course ? I don't know ! If it does I'm pretty sure that cause is not a magic or verbal spell by a none physical entirety beyond time and space .
I'm a simple man, I see Rob Koons, I click.
But are you divinely simple
@@jmike2039 No, he's not.
Alex' sound is awful
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Energy can neither be created nor destroyed, only transformed. What reason is there to assume that the universe we see is anything more than transformed energy that has always existed?
Where does the total energy of the universe come from buddy?