after 1000 miles you will not have any issues maneuvering the wheel. its actually quite nimble once you build up the strength to be able to wield it properly. definitely a wheel that requires a large sample of riding to really feel out because of the weight
I agree! I test road this wheel today and the first thing I said is that it’s more nimble than I thought and I ride a Mpro everyday. The only things I dont like is pedal height and the pedal dippin….I’m working on a custom seat for it to fix the seated ride issue
The lights are easily adjustable with an allen key. No problem. It turns really well once we get used to applying power or brake to compensate for the weight. No effort required when power is applied. I suspect the fan will fail after you’ve put it through some muddy routes. I also suspect the fan is unnecessary but it would probably be a good idea to clean the heat sink. A front mudguard is definitely needed in your location!
One of those things with the tilt back that I agree with. Of course it varies from model and manufacturer if they have it dialed in to be a nice slight tilt back and not abrupt.
@@meuconmyeuc1337 It is, just as long as you’re ok with the larger size and heavy weight. I think it’s well worth it. The combo I’ve always wanted since suspension came out.
Love the idea of this wheel, first long range wheel I love that! She’s beefy! Would be great to take that on a cross county trip wearing a 30lb battery in the back to charge a few times , could go a few hundred miles that would be wild Great content!
Enjoying for the moment the two reviews, beginner and expert. I say for the moment of course because before not too long, Harry is going to burning rubber ahead of you, old man. But the riding video part especially is fun to watch the skill levels. And I think many of us, well maybe just me, are looking forward to the cross comparison of the Begodes to the S22. Probably be a few months for really comprehensive review, but looking forward to that for sure. Thanks Ian, your video reviews are always a pleasure to watch much due to your nature and frankness.
Those pedals/footplates are really solid for being Factory. I've got them on my EXN and love em. The EX20s seems like the type of wheel that performs really well on trails and such.
When I first got this wheel it almost felt like day 1 of EUC again, the high pedals, the weight, however after 1 month, i can roll this thing left and right like a baby and, as strange as the high pedals seem at first, they are awesome, no more curbs, you can squeeze through the smallest areas due to the height, you can also make ridiculous turns to make up for the weight. Just like all these wheels, if you spend some time on it, the wheel completely changes.
Love this, the contrast of experience makes for entertaining video. It's the S22 that still catches my eye though. Really not sure on what changes they have made, to what will be the production model. Another win on the foot plates is they don't clog with mud like grip tape does :-) I have EUC World running all the time and a pebble watch, so I can keep check of my speed. I don't tend to push it anyway :-)
Very nice review, as usual. Love Harry! He's like me 30 years ago! Kutgw! EX20S may be my next wheel to buy, right now still oscillating between that and a Monster Pro. One question, if allowed: don't you think that the ability to turn would be greatly improved with a (round) street tire? I don't ride much off-road, but I really enjoy paved mountain roads with smooth ups and downs (well... the age...), and my seller offers both tires. Also the temperature, not much mentioned in the video, is a huge factor here in my world, because I live in a not only mountainous but also extremely hot region of Thailand, my RS usually runs into 60-65°C... so, how hot does this new little toy really get?
Two questions. 1) What is the power to battery capacity ratio? It is bad if the motor over-powers the battery, and boring if the motor is too weak. 2) How efficient is the regeneration? I was watching an electrical motorcycle being towed by a truck to see how well it charged the battery; and it didn't.
Battery is 3600Wh Motor is 3000W Most EUCs have good regen. You can see the voltage go up when braking. If you go down a long hill you can put lots of energy back into the battery.
@@arcrides6841 So the ratio is 3/3.6= .8 That looks a teeny bit high (Motor too big). Why don't they put in super capacitors to absorb the surge currents?
@@arthurrobey7177 yeah supercaps would be like having a turbo or supercharger in a gas engine. Would be awesome. Stored energy ready to release quickly in strong bursts.
@@Speedyfeetuk Cheers Ian, yes you certainly need the range. I don’t generally do more that about 10miles at a time so I should imagine it’d be great for me 👍
Great review Ian! I have the EX20S HS and was planning on doing a review at 500 miles, but now I’m near 700 miles and just can’t stop riding this machine. It truly feels like a wheel that can take you anywhere you want to go, like a magic carpet. I added a handle and strap in the front secured by both sides of the metal frame as both a way to make it easier to carry, and for better braking when seated. Would have been nice to have it included, but it was an easy addition. I’m also a larger rider at 240 lbs. so maneuvering isn’t too much extra effort and I enjoy feeling more planted, especially when going at higher speeds. I truly feel like an EUC beast riding this wheel, standing over 7 feet tall and a combined weight of about 350 lbs. Quick question...what psi did you set the stock shock to? I set mine at 260 psi but if you set yours to 320, I’m thinking I’m way under, especially for my weight. Couldn’t find a lot of info regarding guidelines for ideal stock shock psi.
That’s awesome! Do you happen to have a picture of the handle you made for it? I’m definitely going to try and make something to make lifting it around easier. I also heard you’ll want to rubberize under the rear light because it’s sharp on your bare hand if you don’t.
@@thelordsauron Indeed, I put some foam rubber matting under the rear tail light with something for the fingers to hold onto for better grip. I don’t have a picture of the front handle but what I have on there is pretty simple. Just a load bearing strap around the metal frame at the front. I also cut a pool noodle and covered it in duct tape to use as a better grip for the strap. Something in front secured to the frame to lift the wheel makes it so much easier.
You have to be the tallest euc rider on earth! Lol Do u have the speed, or torque version? I can match you in weight at 265lbs- im cross shopping the speed version and the Monster pro.
The Begode Master coming soon. In two battery configurations, High-range Samsung 50E cells, 2,400Wh capacity, or High-power Samsung 40T, 1,920Wh capacity. Are you getting both? I think the 50E are the default where as I think I would go for the 40T. Not sure about the options on the EX20S, interested in peoples thoughts though.
Hey thanks so much for the in depth review; great stuff! Made me all the more excited to get mine in a few weeks! Not sure if you mentioned it and I missed it but which motor version did you get? Curious if it was the HT version and if you had any issues over powering it like Adam from Wrong Way did on his review.
@@Speedyfeetuk awesome to hear! Thanks so much for getting back so quick. That’s the one I went with. Was the software on it already updated or did you have to update it through the app? Heard some people were having issues updating it through the app.
@@thelordsauron updating the firmware is fine. I think we just need to be patient. It seems to take longer than expected. I did fall foul of that but eventually got it updated correctly. I think i tried to do the update while it was charging. In retrospect, i don’t think that was a good idea!
Would you recommend the HS or HT? I'm looking at getting this wheel (probably not till batch 3-4 or a v2, though) and am fine with a top speed of 30-35mph. I'm mostly leaning towards the HT version as I feel like it would be better for initial acceleration and braking. Currently running a v11 (which I'm loving) but would love more range.
does that leading edge of front battery pack (front, bottom square edge) - bother you at all when bumping curbs, or going over larger obstacles? It didn't appear to in the video, but figured I'd ask.
If you set the tilt-back to the top speed, will it not consume a bit more power to do so, meaning if you set it to the top speed you could potentially push it to cut out with tilt-back on? If that makes sense?
I'm looking at the speed version of the Ex20s and the Mpro to keep up with the TONS of monsters and sherms in our group rides. I'm not sure if u changed ur initial thoughts on the Pro, but can this at least keep up with those two- speed wise?
@@Speedyfeetuk Leeds, I have maybe seen one person using a unicycle, me bezzing around on a Sherman in the city centre ... ill last maybe an hour longer than I would on a Sur Run - which, will be immediately taken off me as they are exclusively used by dealers/armed robbers/young goons in this city and every other major one too.
off road - on some dirt track - yes probably fine. But I have never seen anyone that does not fit the above criteria on tarmac/built up areas on a Sur Ron. I love the many pros to unicycle but its really a second choice for me I detest the ride position it looks completely ridiculous. Im sure I could blend in with a powerful inconspicuous moped with pedals type vehicle but I reaaaaly want a sur ron. I guess i could get a road legal one with cbt and plates but then i would have to adhere to the many rules of the road which will negate my ability to zip around in the city centre with push bike levels of mobility/access.
3:14 The top seat part looks wonky. Is that the angle or the EUC? I have a Sherman and don't experience fatigue from getting on and dismounting. Perhaps that isn't a downside for the EX20S, rather than a noob rider getting onto an expert rider wheel. No offense, I love seeing more people ride, just in giving a review for potential buyers (like myself) maybe don't review the parts where inexperience is the contributing factor. Not to mention that not many ride these big wheels without after market pads, so there's that. My Sherman has the Begode waffle pedals on it and you CAN still adjust your footing. Just lift up n one leg and gently put your other foot down where it feels comfortable. Nothing bad about the spike pedals. Again, bringing inexperience to an advanced wheel is nothing against the wheel. I can understand wanting a novice and expert opinion, but for this very obvious not a beginner wheel, I just don't see the need. Anyway, enough of my novel. Thanks for an outstanding (as always) video review of my next wheel. I eagerly look forward to the next one.
@@meuconmyeuc1337 I'm still super keen on the Master even though it's also fragile looking. Gotta think about it more. Maybe I'll consider the EX20S instead. Who knows. Does it also have air shocks?
@@arcrides6841 Both have air shocks. The main difference between the Master and the EX20S HS that I can see is the range of the EX20S HS is more like the Sherman and the Master is more like the RS. The Master seems to be what most riders will choose due to its technical nature. The only benefit for the EX2 is that range/speed. If it's range and speed you're after, the EX20S HS is for you. The torque version is also available, but the EX2 is far heavier than the master and is the main downside for this wheel that I can see. If heft isn't a concern and you want that range, EX2 HS is the way to go.
Those square sides near the wheel are going to get annihilated. Can't believe after so many years that Gotway isn't moving forward in terms of sleeker and more fluid lines like the MCM5 which is virtually indestructable due to its egg shape. This thing is going to get destroyed before the owner learns to ride it. Rectangles have no place in EUC design. Atrocious design. Wires, fan exposed. Not to mention it's ugly as sin. Yikes.
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after 1000 miles you will not have any issues maneuvering the wheel. its actually quite nimble once you build up the strength to be able to wield it properly. definitely a wheel that requires a large sample of riding to really feel out because of the weight
I agree! I test road this wheel today and the first thing I said is that it’s more nimble than I thought and I ride a Mpro everyday. The only things I dont like is pedal height and the pedal dippin….I’m working on a custom seat for it to fix the seated ride issue
The lights are easily adjustable with an allen key. No problem. It turns really well once we get used to applying power or brake to compensate for the weight. No effort required when power is applied. I suspect the fan will fail after you’ve put it through some muddy routes. I also suspect the fan is unnecessary but it would probably be a good idea to clean the heat sink. A front mudguard is definitely needed in your location!
One of those things with the tilt back that I agree with. Of course it varies from model and manufacturer if they have it dialed in to be a nice slight tilt back and not abrupt.
Yup, critical setting really.
Mine has tilt back and it is really quite gentle, but noticeable.
I’m more excited for the EX20S over the Master and the S22. Great video
Same here. The EX20S HS is practically a Sherman with suspension.
@@meuconmyeuc1337 It is, just as long as you’re ok with the larger size and heavy weight. I think it’s well worth it. The combo I’ve always wanted since suspension came out.
@@euc_sharkman indeed 😎🤙
Love the idea of this wheel, first long range wheel I love that! She’s beefy! Would be great to take that on a cross county trip wearing a 30lb battery in the back to charge a few times , could go a few hundred miles that would be wild
Great content!
Enjoying for the moment the two reviews, beginner and expert. I say for the moment of course because before not too long, Harry is going to burning rubber ahead of you, old man. But the riding video part especially is fun to watch the skill levels. And I think many of us, well maybe just me, are looking forward to the cross comparison of the Begodes to the S22. Probably be a few months for really comprehensive review, but looking forward to that for sure. Thanks Ian, your video reviews are always a pleasure to watch much due to your nature and frankness.
No problem! The ex20s will smash the s22 in terms if range due to the battery difference.
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You guys threw Harry into the frying pan, lol. BTW, very nice camera work!
Those pedals/footplates are really solid for being Factory. I've got them on my EXN and love em. The EX20s seems like the type of wheel that performs really well on trails and such.
When I first got this wheel it almost felt like day 1 of EUC again, the high pedals, the weight, however after 1 month, i can roll this thing left and right like a baby and, as strange as the high pedals seem at first, they are awesome, no more curbs, you can squeeze through the smallest areas due to the height, you can also make ridiculous turns to make up for the weight. Just like all these wheels, if you spend some time on it, the wheel completely changes.
Absolutely, peeps write off wheels often without truly giving it time to bed in.
When do see a crossing of the Mam Tor??
Love this, the contrast of experience makes for entertaining video. It's the S22 that still catches my eye though. Really not sure on what changes they have made, to what will be the production model. Another win on the foot plates is they don't clog with mud like grip tape does :-) I have EUC World running all the time and a pebble watch, so I can keep check of my speed. I don't tend to push it anyway :-)
There you are buddy Awesome review.
Very nice review, as usual. Love Harry! He's like me 30 years ago! Kutgw! EX20S may be my next wheel to buy, right now still oscillating between that and a Monster Pro. One question, if allowed: don't you think that the ability to turn would be greatly improved with a (round) street tire? I don't ride much off-road, but I really enjoy paved mountain roads with smooth ups and downs (well... the age...), and my seller offers both tires. Also the temperature, not much mentioned in the video, is a huge factor here in my world, because I live in a not only mountainous but also extremely hot region of Thailand, my RS usually runs into 60-65°C... so, how hot does this new little toy really get?
Two questions.
1) What is the power to battery capacity ratio? It is bad if the motor over-powers the battery, and boring if the motor is too weak.
2) How efficient is the regeneration? I was watching an electrical motorcycle being towed by a truck to see how well it charged the battery; and it didn't.
Battery is 3600Wh
Motor is 3000W
Most EUCs have good regen. You can see the voltage go up when braking. If you go down a long hill you can put lots of energy back into the battery.
@@arcrides6841 So the ratio is 3/3.6= .8 That looks a teeny bit high (Motor too big).
Why don't they put in super capacitors to absorb the surge currents?
@@arthurrobey7177 yeah supercaps would be like having a turbo or supercharger in a gas engine. Would be awesome. Stored energy ready to release quickly in strong bursts.
Great video chaps. Well done. Still hankering after the S20 though.
S20 is a lovely wheel....for me its one downside is the range, otherwise amazing.
@@Speedyfeetuk Cheers Ian, yes you certainly need the range. I don’t generally do more that about 10miles at a time so I should imagine it’d be great for me 👍
Great review Ian! I have the EX20S HS and was planning on doing a review at 500 miles, but now I’m near 700 miles and just can’t stop riding this machine. It truly feels like a wheel that can take you anywhere you want to go, like a magic carpet. I added a handle and strap in the front secured by both sides of the metal frame as both a way to make it easier to carry, and for better braking when seated. Would have been nice to have it included, but it was an easy addition. I’m also a larger rider at 240 lbs. so maneuvering isn’t too much extra effort and I enjoy feeling more planted, especially when going at higher speeds. I truly feel like an EUC beast riding this wheel, standing over 7 feet tall and a combined weight of about 350 lbs.
Quick question...what psi did you set the stock shock to? I set mine at 260 psi but if you set yours to 320, I’m thinking I’m way under, especially for my weight. Couldn’t find a lot of info regarding guidelines for ideal stock shock psi.
EX20S
50kg 220psi
60kg 240psi
70kg 260psi
80kg 300psi
90kg 320psi
@@Speedyfeetuk Awesome, thanks so much! Looking forward to your follow up videos!
That’s awesome! Do you happen to have a picture of the handle you made for it? I’m definitely going to try and make something to make lifting it around easier. I also heard you’ll want to rubberize under the rear light because it’s sharp on your bare hand if you don’t.
@@thelordsauron Indeed, I put some foam rubber matting under the rear tail light with something for the fingers to hold onto for better grip. I don’t have a picture of the front handle but what I have on there is pretty simple. Just a load bearing strap around the metal frame at the front. I also cut a pool noodle and covered it in duct tape to use as a better grip for the strap. Something in front secured to the frame to lift the wheel makes it so much easier.
You have to be the tallest euc rider on earth! Lol
Do u have the speed, or torque version? I can match you in weight at 265lbs- im cross shopping the speed version and the Monster pro.
Max tilt back speed setting?
So no battery level gauge in rear lights then?
Begode needs to take the effort to clean the wires up a bit. no need to have them so exposed.
The Begode Master coming soon. In two battery configurations, High-range Samsung 50E cells, 2,400Wh capacity, or
High-power Samsung 40T, 1,920Wh capacity. Are you getting both? I think the 50E are the default where as I think I would go for the 40T. Not sure about the options on the EX20S, interested in peoples thoughts though.
Great review! Want one - but laws in Norway won't allow me to drive it anywhere. 😞
I like your helmet, may I ask what's the brand or maybe you could tell me where I could buy one?
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Hey thanks so much for the in depth review; great stuff! Made me all the more excited to get mine in a few weeks!
Not sure if you mentioned it and I missed it but which motor version did you get? Curious if it was the HT version and if you had any issues over powering it like Adam from Wrong Way did on his review.
No problem! I am on the HT version (C38), zero issues so far, will keep reporting back :)
@@Speedyfeetuk awesome to hear! Thanks so much for getting back so quick. That’s the one I went with. Was the software on it already updated or did you have to update it through the app? Heard some people were having issues updating it through the app.
@@thelordsauron updating the firmware is fine. I think we just need to be patient. It seems to take longer than expected. I did fall foul of that but eventually got it updated correctly. I think i tried to do the update while it was charging. In retrospect, i don’t think that was a good idea!
Try lifting with one hand on the stand and one on a suspension pin.
Very nice wheel but you didn't get Master yet for testing?
Do you think this would be a good long range suspension wheel for deliveries in a city? ( possibly with a street tire)
Absolutely, even with offroad tire, aside from noise it rides lovely.
Would you recommend the HS or HT? I'm looking at getting this wheel (probably not till batch 3-4 or a v2, though) and am fine with a top speed of 30-35mph. I'm mostly leaning towards the HT version as I feel like it would be better for initial acceleration and braking. Currently running a v11 (which I'm loving) but would love more range.
This one is the HT, and its spot on, wouldn’t want anything more speed from it tbh.
does that leading edge of front battery pack (front, bottom square edge) - bother you at all when bumping curbs, or going over larger obstacles? It didn't appear to in the video, but figured I'd ask.
If you set the tilt-back to the top speed, will it not consume a bit more power to do so, meaning if you set it to the top speed you could potentially push it to cut out with tilt-back on? If that makes sense?
If you guys every did that 1000 mile challenge again, which todays wheel would you pick for the journey?
Me personally the EX20s
@@Speedyfeetuk thanks, that was epic btw
I'm looking at the speed version of the Ex20s and the Mpro to keep up with the TONS of monsters and sherms in our group rides. I'm not sure if u changed ur initial thoughts on the Pro, but can this at least keep up with those two- speed wise?
To brake while sitting you need to grab the front of the seat...
Is it just me but is Harry riding with straight legs???
Grabbing seat a no go on this one, no place to grab comfortably
You cannot grab the front of this wheel. You could attach your own handle via the side plates if you’re handy with that kind of thing.
Id love an Ewheel or a Sur Ron for deliveries around town but there just no point - the cops will take it off me in the 1st shift 😐
Sucks when that happens, thankfully pretty rare...but still a risk!
@@Speedyfeetuk with all due respect - it's not rare - it's inevitable. A Sur Ron especially - its' getting taken the 1st night
Maybe where you are? Not had that experience nor almost all our customers since 2014 (unicycle anyhow). Where you based?
@@Speedyfeetuk Leeds, I have maybe seen one person using a unicycle, me bezzing around on a Sherman in the city centre ... ill last maybe an hour longer than I would on a Sur Run - which, will be immediately taken off me as they are exclusively used by dealers/armed robbers/young goons in this city and every other major one too.
off road - on some dirt track - yes probably fine. But I have never seen anyone that does not fit the above criteria on tarmac/built up areas on a Sur Ron. I love the many pros to unicycle but its really a second choice for me I detest the ride position it looks completely ridiculous. Im sure I could blend in with a powerful inconspicuous moped with pedals type vehicle but I reaaaaly want a sur ron. I guess i could get a road legal one with cbt and plates but then i would have to adhere to the many rules of the road which will negate my ability to zip around in the city centre with push bike levels of mobility/access.
why is the left pedal angled higher than the right one?
Harry wasn't ready for it.
do you know the top speed on the HT?
Thanks very much 👍
Si j'arrive à faire comme lui ,il est fort avec la roue que j'ai
This is like a prototype to a very good product.
With that sofa of a unicycle, you may start wondering if you can a passenger with you.
Now that would be fun ha ha
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Any speakers for music... ??
Not on this one no.
Is this the c30 or c38?
C38
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3:14 The top seat part looks wonky. Is that the angle or the EUC? I have a Sherman and don't experience fatigue from getting on and dismounting. Perhaps that isn't a downside for the EX20S, rather than a noob rider getting onto an expert rider wheel. No offense, I love seeing more people ride, just in giving a review for potential buyers (like myself) maybe don't review the parts where inexperience is the contributing factor. Not to mention that not many ride these big wheels without after market pads, so there's that.
My Sherman has the Begode waffle pedals on it and you CAN still adjust your footing. Just lift up n one leg and gently put your other foot down where it feels comfortable. Nothing bad about the spike pedals. Again, bringing inexperience to an advanced wheel is nothing against the wheel.
I can understand wanting a novice and expert opinion, but for this very obvious not a beginner wheel, I just don't see the need.
Anyway, enough of my novel. Thanks for an outstanding (as always) video review of my next wheel. I eagerly look forward to the next one.
When are you getting this wheel? Looks great but too fragile I reckon.
@@arcrides6841 I get all wheel on batch 3 out later so most of the kinks are worked out. I'm figuring later party of this year.
I was wondering too. Either the seat is crooked or the lights. It kind of bothers me a little
@@meuconmyeuc1337 I'm still super keen on the Master even though it's also fragile looking. Gotta think about it more. Maybe I'll consider the EX20S instead. Who knows. Does it also have air shocks?
@@arcrides6841 Both have air shocks. The main difference between the Master and the EX20S HS that I can see is the range of the EX20S HS is more like the Sherman and the Master is more like the RS.
The Master seems to be what most riders will choose due to its technical nature. The only benefit for the EX2 is that range/speed.
If it's range and speed you're after, the EX20S HS is for you. The torque version is also available, but the EX2 is far heavier than the master and is the main downside for this wheel that I can see. If heft isn't a concern and you want that range, EX2 HS is the way to go.
Great vid 👍
U need a small euc
I just don't trust naked battery packs... First crash blown batteries...and no where to add a lanyard....same with ks20...
By my height that would look like a motorcycle
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You are tired because you don't have full control and confidence of riding euc
Those square sides near the wheel are going to get annihilated. Can't believe after so many years that Gotway isn't moving forward in terms of sleeker and more fluid lines like the MCM5 which is virtually indestructable due to its egg shape. This thing is going to get destroyed before the owner learns to ride it. Rectangles have no place in EUC design. Atrocious design. Wires, fan exposed. Not to mention it's ugly as sin. Yikes.
Yeah it looks super fragile. It probably has a hard time just surviving the shipping.
I totally agree bro, I was starting to think it was just me. How are we paying this much for less battery protection.....
How come ur friends he is to wobbly.he is weak
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 Too much heavy... Lost all portability... To me is of no use!
Most unfinished and most ugly wheel ever made.. Kinda like a botched beta version never meant to be released to the public..
That trolley handle should be called the ball banger 😆
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