Raised Beds or In-Ground Beds: Which Is The Ultimate Gardening Game-Changer?
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Garden beds play a crucial role in shaping the success of your gardening endeavors. But which is the superior choice: raised beds or in-ground beds? Join Curtis Stone as he dives deep into this age-old gardening debate in this video.
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About Curtis Stone:
Curtis is one of the world’s most highly sought-after small farming educators. His book, The Urban Farmer, offers a new way to think about farming𑁋 one where quality of life and profitability coexist. Today, Curtis spends most of his time building his 40-acre off-grid homestead in British Columbia. He leverages his relationships with other experts to bring diverse content into the homes of gardeners and aspiring small farmers from around the world. Learn more at FromTheField.TV.
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One of the advantages of a raised bed seems to be that it contains the fertile soil in a specific area and doesn't allow it to wash away.
And when it does naturally wash away, the overall soil quality in the surrounding area improves
Rocks. Lots and lots of rocks. That's why I have raised beds.
Me too, I actually like finding large rocks, I stack them to line the sides of the raised beds.
I think I might be able to get enough to build my root cellar! Like they say around here "I grew a bumper crop of rocks!"
In my part of Indiana we have glacial till rocks (one at the back of my property is the size of an armchair) lodged in pottery quality clay. I would rather spend the money once than work for years to amend and work this backbreaking soil.
Biggest oversight nobody is talking about: use a raised bed with a mesh at the bottom to keep out gophers.
or get a dog with a predator drive :)
Yup. Gophers. Bastards!!!!!
17 hmr with scope
These are not Prairie Dogs and they rarely come to the surface...You can flood them out, but these farmer's are hip to that and basically build a beaver lodge...Last year they took 6 3' tall Thai Pepper plants with fruit...it's like cartoons...you can see the plant shake and then half of the plant is pulled underground...12 hours later the whole thing will have vanished...These SoCal Gophers are spicy lil' bastards! And when you do take a shot, a .177 air rifle will more than do the trick...but only for a few and they will quickly learn and before you know it, the burrow has a French drain. Traps are a joke. Gas...maybe.
If you do have a gopher problem, there are some VERY satisfying videos of a torch that fills the burrow with propane and then...BLAMMO!!!!
try road flares. find their holes and drop a lite road flare down it.
I used raised beds in Arizona because 1) I don't want to lose the water, they are wicking type beds, 2) our soil is terrible, so I want to control the soil and 3) height keeps them away from some of the critters that want to feast on my stuff. Finally, as you mentioned, ergonomics.
Wondered if it kept ground squirrels away
You just nailed something that I've been confronted with after moving to Arizona from the north.
Everything is 180* backwards.
ALL of the 'smart' construction in the north is about keeping houses warm. There's very little information on natural cooling. Everything that I was ever taught about gardening was about the importance of drainage. So little about water conservation. (Sunburned crops?! Who knew that most plants could get sunburned? Now I'm learning how to give some relief to plants that would normally be considered 'full sun'.)
I'm finally getting to the point where I realize that I need real, local help. There are a lot of successful gardeners around here and I'm noticing that they do not follow the rules that I was raised with.
Are you still growing today? Have you ended up shading a lot of plants? What fail in az and are really good here? What local help do you get? I'm here in north phoenix
My reason for using Raised beds is simply for tidiness and organization. My Raised beds are only two landscape timbers high. my first two beds were 8'x8' but I discovered it is too hard to reach everything. Those beds still exist but like I said they are harder to work. My next three beds are 4'x8' because I can reach two feet to the center from one side and two feet to the center from the other. My next three beds I went back to 8'x8' but for a different reason. Each one of those is at the front of my property next to the road and has an apple tree in the center. In the rest of the bed I plant other edibles that people in my market would take as ornamentals. From the outside in i plant Rainbow Chard, Carrots and then Dinosaur Kale. I only plant on three sides of the 8'x8' and leave myself a path to my apple trees. It looks ornamental yet is edible. Oh yeah... I'm using the Back to Eden method and replenish it with my own homemade compost.
I done the same thing with my first raised bed. I still don't like that one lol.
Great video. You did a great job explaining why each idea would work well.
Good video Curtis, context is everything, one day people might finally get it rather than saying no this way is the best man!
Thank you for the info, I look forward to your show almost every day. I own a family owned nursery. I am moving to the midwest and will be farming 2 acres with nursery plus farm. You have been an inspiration to me to enlarge my farm, thank you Curtis.
I found your channel the other day and now I'm obsessed with it.
I live in North Texas and in our area the soil is mostly clay, which soaks up and retains water. The climate is dry from about mid-June through mid-September. I stopped gardening a few years ago because of the wet-dry weeks. I plan to use raised beds this spring. --- Kenneth
I moved to Las Vegas and will start my garden this spring. I’m glad I watched your video. I was going to grow in raised beds but instead will grow at ground level to save on water and improve my results. I’ll have 5-10 yards of quality soil trucked in. Thanks much!
Thanks I live in a dry climate, and was pondering this.
Hi, I'm learning a lot from your channel. I live in North Pole Alaska and many of us use raised beds due to the high water table and permafrost. But I also have several friends who use the in ground raised beds but they live in the hills. Love your videos, keep them coming.
This Video actually put a good perspective finally for me, as being in a high elevation Now I know I don't need the raised garden beds.
Thank you for this!
Good description and comparison of the two different gardening techniques and why they’re used for different circumstances. In a tight residential situation where vegetables are grown for personal use and ease, built, raised beds make sense. But for larger applications when high production is the intended goal, simply working the land to accomplish your goals makes the most sense financially and practically. Very good video! Thanks so much!👍
Great points! Thanks for sharing, Curtis.
Thank you!! Very helpful as I go to till my first ever crop field.
1st time trying this out. Very helpful information. Thank you!!
Been learning alot from you! - thanks for these vids :)
Curtis, I couldn't quite tell from the video, but looks like you have another advantage with the raised bed in your greenhouse, a heat sink. It should help keep some heat in there for winter. Keep the video's coming. Thanks, Von
Great video, I have learned so much from your channel about market gardening! I live in WNY, where we get a decent amount of rain throughout the growing season usually. However, this year it has been extremely dry and hot and I have been having a hard time getting my head lettuce to size before it bolts. I use all raised beds currently, but I am working on cultivating the second half of my acre yard. My question is when I build these new beds would it likely be better to leave a few flat with the ground for lettuce plantings, instead of using raised beds? It sounds like ground level beds would hold moisture better and also keep the roots of the plants cooler in extreme heat.
Sorry for such a long comment, I appreciate any response, as I know you are very busy!
Thank you again for all the helpful, positive gardening information you continue to provide to the world!
Just discovered your channel, its fabulous! Your business model of using other people's land is brilliant. I think my city -Detroit, does offer empty lots the city owns for people who want to plant gardens on it, but don't know how many have done that. I didn't garden at all this year. Your beds don't even look real, they are so green and healthy. Didn't know about the pros and cons of raised beds. I was mainly thinking about my back and having to weed it.
per sebra if you start a construct like this in detroit you will be funded and make a profit
Thanks Curtis! RB's also add depth for root growth to a soil with an originally shallow profile.
Explained well with clarity. ✌
Super helpful, thank you!
this is fantastic information, especially for someone who doesn't own the land they are farming (or gardening). the prohibitive cost of putting in raised wooden beds that i'll essentially be giving to my landlord has been holding back the scale of my garden plan, but now i can expand a bit. thank you for this! (i'm in central montana, also a fairly dry climate at a high elevation, if that information is helpful to others)
Thank You for answering my question about a raised bed garden I live in zone 10 and after April very little rain if any until December.
I did raised beds in the front yard and I'll do in ground in the backyard. Thanks for these tips
Thanks for the info!
Hey thanks buddy! I'm in Hawaii on the rainy side and this help a lot 🙏
Thanks for your valuable information
This was so great!
Very informative, thank you.
Perfect timing and great video. I'm live in southern California, hot, dry, rainless summers, I'm done with raised bed. I only raise the sides 4 to 6 inches if at all. I believe in ground is better. Of course you need to amend the soil with compost.
How do any of your videos get a thumbs down? Seriously?? Love your content. Thanks for sharing
thanks a lot you really answer one of my big question I was asking about the cost and prep of beds
Thanks for the elucidation.
Very useful info for beginners like me, thanks for posting this
Thanks for the insights! Two comments:
I suppose fertility management would be different in raised vs in-ground beds. Would you say raised beds are more conducive to low or no-till practices? Seems to me like you can top-dress with compost without having to dig into the soil very much.
Drainage as you mentioned is a key point too and height of water table, rainfall, and soil type - would be important contextual factors in whether to do one or the other.
excellent explanation, thank you!
wanted to see compare yields
Very informative video I will surely try it in my garden
Today I am researching "Raised Bed Gardening" and Professor Curtis Stone here on the University of RUclips is an excellent stop for my search. My climate here high in the Cascade Range of the Pacific Northwest, WSW of Crater Lake appears to duplicate your climate there in Kelowna BC down the street from my brother. Therefore it makes sense to me to search out those whom are successful at gardening to glean tid bits of information from in order to be as successful as you. My garden is a work in progress. One major barrier I have here is that 6-8 inches below the surface of the soil is hardpan rock. Some crops I can grow in the ground, however, those crops which need deep earth i.e. root crops need the soil mounded to give them enough room for root and tuber growth. It does get hot in the summers here [100° F.] for two weeks. QUESTION: Will this be damaging to my root crops grown in a raised beds? I too have a greenhouse which was built by Marty Rainey's daughter Misty and my daughter Jaymi while filming an episode of HOMESTEAD RESCUE for the DIscovery Channel and Animal Planet. So far I have had great success with growing some crops in there year-round. Thank you Curtis for your brilliant tutorials, I find them to be of great value in my pursuit of the homestead dream. Jerry Hanson, host of "Pine Meadows Hobby Farm".
don't have the funds yet to help you grow and be able to share more good content. but when things work out I will donate what I have. your time on RUclips is valuable to me specially the format I learn the most from.
wow great video straight from Jamaica
very good information, thanks a lot. very logical.
I live in Southern Idaho - very dry, high desert. I use raised beds because I don't have a ton of space. Raised beds yield a lot more veggies because I can plant the crops closer together and not leave space for a row to walk down. Just food for thought.
You can do the same thing with an in-ground bed.
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Nice video. It makes sense to use raised beds only when it is an overall plus for the situation you encounter.
Totally unrelated but I think it's really cool you promote your friends farm, granted he's not in your market it's still really awesome. If you ever make shirts I'll be sure to get one!
On a side note we live in an area with a lot of rain and clay so we did like JM did with hilled raised beds, no lumber or brick cost. It deffinetely helps with drainage for us.
That's the beauty of the free market, there's room for everyone, up to the point of being able to recommend the work of your competitors without hurting your profits. Truth always wins and do not require the amount of work to sustain as lies do.
The purpose of a raised bed is to prevent walking on the roots. This keeps the soil light and loose.
Source: Mike McGrath, You Bet Your Garden
I was in my garden and just had thought of that. So i agree. Although my weather is not ideal for raised bed
@@Boz1211111 what's your weather and where do you live?
@@danielmsz Croatia, gets hot and dry in the summer
Great video!
I built a permanent raised bed in my greenhouse am most pleased with the results, watering I find to be a difficult learning curve!
You have achieved what seems to be a best a man can get..Living in urban area, working with nature and making money out of it. I am also trying to venture into farming so as first step I thought I will start growing food for my home.
I am situated in Patan, Gujarat, India. For most months weather is hot here, above 30 degree Celsius with low humidity. Upper soil is loamy but as you go down it becomes more sandy. Water doesn't stay in soil and drains fast.
So considering above I was thinking instead of raised beds I will dug up and create beds 1 foot deep. Place plastic film over it to prevent water and nutrients going down deep in soil. Then add mixture of soil, compost, worm casting and some rock phosphate may be to fill up the bed.
Would like to know your view on this approach.
Tushar Kathuria would work well...Am currently doing that way
I have a amazing raise beds cause it rains here in New Zealand alot but love what you do .my Pesto i made 10litres is awesome
I started growing some vegetables in the backyard soil last summer. Most grew well just with some fertilizer. Now I want to do the same but, after learning that the soil in some parts of Seattle could be contaminated with arsenic and lead, will build some beds and buy soil.
in a gardening context, raised beds also allow you to guarantee that you will be producing dank loam in the bed as the seasons pass.
This is cool, but recently I got in touch with a game-changing technique (at least for me it was): no-dig. There are videos comparing the same crops in the same land being planted side-by-side, the usual way and the no-dig way, and no-dig yields more. So nature got everything figured out pretty much. Working smarter not harder.
My only reason for raised bed is that I have unusable soil.
try to use manure, cow manure. and compost everything in furrows into The soil.
You can improve the soil with time. If, like Curtis, your environment does not favor raised beds then your best option is to simply build up your soil. Use cover crops to help fix nutrients and key gases back into the soil. Mulch and manure the soil to build up any lack of carbon or organic matter. Composting also a good option.
Thank you great information for my high desert growing area!
How do you deal with ground squirrels or gofers?
So i live in Vancouver where we have wet spring and fall but summer is dry for 3 months. I have a raised bed from two 4x4s and garden is 9ft wide by 50ft and i notice that in spring and fall it does get very wet soil. I wonder if i am growing carrots, beets, lettuce, turnips should i make tiny 4 inch high rows to plant the in my raised bed garden?
nice to get through your video,i just build my raise beds,140 cm width 2500 cm,would be glad if you can inform me about cilantro plantation within spacing in,and how much irrigation lines will i be needing,
Nice video learned how to make bed - was quite scared on how to do it.
I've got to check out Jean-Martin Fortier as I'm also in Quebec. We have raised beds because our garden is where there used to be a pool that was backfilled with all kinds of broken pieces of concrete and crap. Working in that is like doing an archeological dig!
Hey Curtis is it reasonable to set up permanent beds if you've got a lot of pressure from gophers? How would you do it?
We are in the high desert too, about to try a wicking bed. Ever tried one?
Hi Curtis
Just came across your work and am in year 2 of farming my backyard spaces and looking to improve my work. I live in Miami and to your point, I feel that my setting is quite different from yours. Do you have any guidance on who to follow ? My local farmers aren’t as active on social media spaces as you
Hi, love watching your videos. I'm curious on how to start up doing profitable gardening like you're doing. I don't know how to start or what to grow or what not to grow or when or how much it would cost to start up or where to get the plants from or anything like that. Big help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
+sounds like my book will answer your question exactly, Hefty Hellion
Sounds like you are doing what is called "spin farming." Very interesting. Liked the video.
+Annie Gaddis yes. I used to work with the SPIN farming folks and taught their material for a while. I've developed my own techniques since then, but SPIN was a great place to start at the time.
Thank you for this video. I live in Utah (also a high desert area) and I have felt that I would be fine with an in-ground bed system. My only downfall is that the previous owners of the property I'm at used the area I want to grow in as an RV parking spot 😱so it's very compacted.
Do you or anyone else on this video have advice for tilling? Is a roto-tiller my best bet or should I do it with hand tools? It's about 1,200 square feet if I had to guess. Thanks again, this video gave me the courage to do an in-ground bed system!
I used a strong broadfork to loosen over 2000 sq ft of hard clay 12-15 inches deep. Do a few feet every day. A tiller does not get very deep.
I want to plant in a area that has a lot of underground roots so what do you recommend. A raised bed? An if I use pelleted seed in a low raised what is the best or good seed planting method for the most profit /time management?
Would you recommend in-ground or raised beds for the Houston area? The back width of my property is 110' across so I have decent room for a solid personal garden. My concern for in-ground beds is the hard clay soil although they would be cooler in gound, 100+ degree summers.
From what I've seen, another reason you're better off in the ground is because you're growing at greater volume than a typical home gardener, and this allows you to use more efficient tools for seeding, feeding, and harvesting.
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Can you show the raised bed, give us a good look at it, thanks!
Excellet video!
Thank you for making this video and being so informative. I look forward to reading and watching more of your techniques on farming :)
I just got to watch this video. We are moving to the Burns Lake BC area next month. I was planning on doing raised beds mainly due to the fact that I have no idea what the soil is like. Should we do 8 inch sides or 10?
Another reason in particular in urban environments especially in older cities is contaminants like lead, chemicals, etc.
Exactly the reason I am considering options for raised beds away from the house this year. We've grown next to a house built in the 60's or 70's, meaning it was painted with lead paint. I can't imagine it's very good that we grow vegetables in that soil.
In ground beds are a better option for me in Southern California but the issue I am running into are squirrels, gophers and rabbits. Do you have advice on this with in ground gardening/farming?
Thanks!
can a garden be done on a hill or must construct a type of flat bed into the hill?
I live in S. Fl. where we have huge nematode problem, plus in my 1/2 acre area I only have about 1/2" to 1" of sandy soil before I hit solid limestone rock. My question is, would a raised bed help to deter nematodes? I really don't want to waist growing space with plants such as marigolds or mustard (as has been recommended) if I don't have too.
If you're wanting to keep water more on your crops, would it be worth trialling a reverse raised bed? Ie. having your walkway higher then the crops?
Talking specifically about you in that area
How did you build that greenhouse onto your house. My mom thinks if I do that it will cause moisture issues on the house
I live in the Arizona desert in the phoenix area. I just bought some property and I'm trying to decide raised or in-ground. I also need water retention but our soil has heavy caliche. would you suggest a raised bed in this instance or would it probably to be better to just dig down with a roto tiller?
Thanks for the video!
You can rotavate your raised beds with an electric rotavator.
Great piece of kit and far more versatile than the traditional ones.
What do u recommend if it rains 100 days annually amounting to 700 liters /meter square
The reason I do raised beds in my yard is because my entire yard is "builders rubble", gravel, + boulders. No fertile soil at all. I bought a small piece of property which had an old house on it, this was torn down & backfilled with sand/gravel/rocks. It was then converted to a gravel parking lot.
Buying soil here is not very expensive, but delivery is. EG: Delivering a few yards of soil from 1/2 mile away is nearly 100 bucks. The soil itself is 25 bucks lol. It makes sense to me to build raised beds. I can get wood cheap here because we have a guy in town that collects used boards and whatever so paying a buck for a 2x6x12 board or thereabouts (he even removes the nails etc from them) rather than 20-30 bucks for one board, I can buy a gallon of some sort of wood protection sealer (that doesn't present danger to crops I will be eating) to protect the wood in our harsh climate. Still rather cheap. (but more work and in most cases, the wood is almost as good as new.)
OTOH - If I had a yard of half decent soil, indeed it would be in ground beds. Easier to just rake out & plant grass seed should I want to downsize the garden(s).
We live in Western Colorado, in a high desert climate. I have a 1400 square foot garden, virgin soil never tilled or built on before, that has done very well this first year. The biggest problem is trying to make it slope from one side to the other, so that water runs down the “canals” to the rest of the plants. It’s so uneven that water is always filling up the walkways. We considered a field plane but we have a very high, well built fence around it now to keep wildlife out. Any suggestions for getting it flat and even from one side to the other?
Awesome channel subbed. Your vegetable polyculture opinion? Never produced well for me. Your hugelkultur opinion?
I think Hugelkulture is a little silly personally. Doesn't make any sense from a farming standpoint, because of the amount of work required. Even on a gardening standpoint, I don't understand why someone would want to put in that much work. Vegetable polyculture is a good thing. It's important to rotate crop families, but it's also important to stream line production with little monocultures within a greater farm. To have everything mixed everywhere all the time, is in-effienent for a profit based operation. Form a gardening standpoint, it doesn't matter as much.
question. I am planning to plant strawberries in my plot 1200sq ft but I will start with 600sq ft. I have sugar cane in the edges of the garden and my question is this cane not going to affect my berries and what type of plants can I grow side by side with strawberries for the other half.
What about an area like Florida where they get downpours almost everyday in the summer accompanied with sandy grounds
Who is the John you referenced? I would like to see more of his beds you showed.
Im also in Quebec,but the reason im looking for the raised beds is that i just got house here,and i dont know how is the soil in my backyard, and i dont have way to test it for contaminants to determin if it save to plant fruits and vegetables. I find labs that do just mineral content of the soil but that it.Maybe you have way to tell or test if backyard soil is free of heavy metals and other stuff?
Cheers
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Just make raised beds with open ends, basically making "access ramps" for machinery.
Also way healthier for you to not be bending over so low.
Is it possible to have a raised bed too high? Mine is 3ft tall. husband thought it would help my back by not bending over. Would this affect the drainage?
I live in western Washington . The area my home is on has a high water table I grew tomatoes broockly a and greenpepers just for my own use, but I would like to expand to do greens and other money making crops. I don't have money for raised beds. Is there something else I can do.
What do u think about using logs innoculated with shiitake mushroom to make a raised bed
Well explained... In my climate, it makes sense to grow in-ground, not in a raised bed. A raised bed would just be a lot of time, effort and expense for no real gains and maybe a few downsides (quicker drying etc)