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If I give you my phone number can I ask you a question? I can’t say much on hear I have a burner and I can get you one to listen we don’t have much time, Me and my team are from 2124 and you play a major role in what is about to happen in the next 2 weeks on your earth
True Brother. Greetings from Cameroon. I think it is a universe that collapse to a universe. U=You your mind is the mind-space the universe collapse into.
That`s why the multiverse theory, like alternative realities is new age religion, not science. By definition there can only be one Universe and reality. And if others existed, the evidence of it`s effect on ours would be observable. As far as observable evidence goes, The Universe evolves from nothing but the vacuum energy of empty space which is also the future state of The Universe. Hence we are living in an eternal `cyclic` Universe. But science fiction has become the most popular religion in the west because the majority find fiction more entertaining than fact. Same with other supernatural beliefs that caters for the human ego, like the illusion of `free will`.
@@jem5231 I agree with you for the most part but calling it "religion" is a bit disingenuous. It's theoretical physics and should still be taken somewhat seriously (like the rest of theoretical physics) but should also be taken with a HUGE grain of salt as it is not confirmed nor is it scientifically testable at the moment. If the multiverse theory was true, then it would explain why our universe appears to be so fine tuned without necessarily having to invoke the anthropic principle, which is why it should still be taken seriously. Anyone that tells you it is actually real though is either lying to themselves or a fool ofc
@@jem5231 spot the atheist layman that still believes science has all the answers Science describes many things, there's no theory of everything yet though, so you putting all your faith into our current understanding of how the world works is really no different to a religious person putting all their faith into an ideology. Neither has all the answers. No truth is known, we have observed the universe to the nth degree and yet do not understand what any of it is. We can harness electricity, know how to convert photons into the flow of electricity and back again, yet have no clue what electromagnetism really is. We can describe how things function, yet do not know how anything truly works. So until we have a theory of everything, that thoroughly describes how and why everything exists, putting all your faith on "but muh science" is no different in my eyes. If a creator exists, science would still be valid, you'd be observing the exact same things. All science does is disprove religious tales like those in the Bible stating we were created in God's image. God would have started the universe with a bang, and from there all our current scientific observations would be exactly the same as if we just happened to come into existence. How is a creator any more ludicrous than the big bang? Both dictate something comes from nothing, if there is no creator that doesn't make the universe any less ridiculous than if there is one. Fact is, I exist, I know I exist, I do not know why I exist, claiming to have a definite understanding of why I came to exist would be idiotic.
I love this video. What I love about the scientists (particularly Andre Linde) is the humour and humility with which they discuss their theories. A must-see video for anyone who is interested in cosmology.
I got a feeling the moderator -otherwise a wonderful person- was trying to rush him politely. Andre Linde is not a native English speaker and on top of that he probably had the most difficult task among them all, for he was trying to explain why his explanation of the multiverse draws from some theories/ ideas/ hypotheses from two vastly different realms - String Theory and of course, Cosmology.
"The Universe", (whichever idea of it we subscribe to), is the nickname we have given to a categorically unknowable mystery. The realisation of this mystery which we call "reality" is entirely dependent on our particular scale, our senses, and our faculty of inquiry... meanwhile, everything we think we know about this consensual, agreed upon, "reality" is entirely constructed from descriptive language. This modern age is a construction of magic words; words of such great magicians as the likes of Sir Isaac Newton and Rene Descartes, wizards who unpacked their ideas into the general reality of everybody and created the foundation of what we considered to be 'true' for a long time... From "God" to "Gravity" or from "Adam" to "The Atom", all of the ideas from the religious or scientific worldviews that we consider to be facts are actually just made out of words: metaphors; literary devices; reductions; approximations; models in the program of our "human condition[ing]".
One word to sum up that beautiful idea which I agree with entirely is “subjective”. As in just about every thought we have ever had is a nonsensical subjective idea stemming from the absurdness of needing to constantly put a “meaning” on things. Science and philosophy mean the same things if you look at it a certain way. Everything is a subjective perspective of individualism and it has been since the first known “intelligent” role model.
Knowing that eventually our universe will probably eventually die out and all matter will cease to exist, the idea of a multiverse is more comforting and optimistic since it would mean that there will always be cosmic activity and potential life out there.
Hopefully we will find ways to move our population to other empty copies of Earth like planets via the wormholes we find that lead into other universes … but who knows
"I'm a theoretical physicist" "oh, whats that mean" _ "I get paid to confuse the shit out of myself and everyone around me. However on the off chance I discover something miraculous it will probably be used to destroy civilization"
@@slevinchannel7589 It Makes About As Much Sense As Why You Feel The Need To Capitalize The First Letter Of Nearly Every Word In Your Sentences. Certainly just One Universe. It's just more Logical. It just makes more Sense.
Interesting theories. We once thought we were the center of the universe. I wouldn't be shocked to find out that our universe isn't the center of reality itself.
I have been studying mathematics of the University pretty much come up with itself identity of itself to be that. It all comes back to the beginning point.
@@michaelgilbert8003 theoretical mathematics? Doing math resulting in any kind of output when using our current theories on the universes dynamic formations and structures would only result in a THEORETICAL number. And besides that this subject matter has stumbled every mathmatican including Einstein. Please tell me more how university has proved great attraction theory.
Stuff like this really rips my knitting. I remember as a child discovering that if I faced two mirrors at each other I could then see reflection upon reflection upon reflection seemingly forever. And began thinking what if I could shrink myself down smaller and smaller as needed and follow the reflections further and further into the mirror. How small could it get? Imagine what that does to a 5 or 6 year old mind. I mentioned the thought to a schoolteacher who I think considered it sort of weird that one so young was pondering this while all the others were more interested in playing with crayons. But the teacher did mention atoms and even smaller particles which simply messed me up further. I discovered that atoms were orbited by particles even smaller than they were and began to think but isn't that exactly what the solar system looks like? Sun as an atom with planets etc. as electrons orbiting it and so on? My 5 year old mind then thought does this mean that the sun and all solar system objects could be merely particles in some mind bogglingly large solid body? and that's even before later beginning to incorporate galaxies into the whole speculation. Thoughts like that have been torturing me ever since and then the likes of these guys come along with all this multiverse stuff. All I want to think about that is please just shut up already. I'm still back here in my mirrors.
I think what i’m hearing in this discussion is the possibility that the origin of THE Big Bang is from another of multiple universes. Our universe was not the first of many universes. There was at least one universe already, that gave birth to the big bang that created our universe.
I think the Big Bang happened once and i think it caused 2 other universes at the same time and everything that is happening in our universe is happening in the other universes at the same time as well so basically it’s like 3 balloons tided together and all of the universes are expanding by the second
Our universe was created from Big Bang. Then, after some unknown time after expansion, it will change back to its current state. And as that happens a new universe will be born instantly. So basically our universe renews itself every 49 billion years.
Right but not before you jammed a watch battery up my nose to correct my myopic vision that was waaay to late arriving into the unfurling course of ambient arrival from the ancient aliens and their pet Pleseosaurus in my 12 foot swimming pool!
One day one farmer build a well in his farm, and by time he left the farm and migrated in a city. The abandoned well got some frogs by time. One day they had a meeting about what is outside this well. One frog said, our well was created by a bang and its hundreds other wells outside our well. Other said, nope, just one well is there. No one imagined anything but wells.
Ballz said the queen, If I had 2, then I'd be king....and it would all be exactly different just like it was right now, tomorrow....WAKE UP! Admit you are asleep and only dreaming you were awake upon dozing....But seriously, all these theories, all this talk is like mental masturbation but you never climax....The only ones that profit are those that get PAID for jerking off in front of everyone ....they have to be embarrassed much like someone who's job is dressing up in a gorilla costume hopping around in the sun, sweating and holding some stupid sign hawking some failing business in some sleazy strip mall...but at least the smuck in the costume has anonymity.... unlike these posers.....AGGGHHHH!!!
Neal Turoch (No clue if I'm spelling that correctly) is speaking about theory that is still controversial and stating it like it's fact. Dark Energy and Dark Matter are barely considered theories and are still highly contested. While a particle called the Higs bozon was in fact discovered it is still unclear as to whether or not the field generated by this particle is responsible for the formation of matter or anything at all. The way the speaker is describing space is incredibly destructive and can lead to huge misconceptions that will add a bias to future discoveries and researchers down the road need to ensure they're not tainted by a bias when trying to unravel mysteries. If it's not 100% observable than at most it's a theory. In some cases it's fairly obvious that the theories are almost certainly accurate such as the theory of evolution, which despite what creationists claim, has been reproduced in a lab. On the subject of Dark Matter / Dark Energy and the Higs Field those are still highly contested theories without enough evidence to be accepted as mainstream thought. Dark Energy and Dark matter really look like a lazy idea to describe observations being made in the universe around us. When I personally look at the theory it's almost as bad as saying "Magic" is responsible. We have yet to find a single particle of dark matter and experiments in the deepest parts of our planet have been going on for years in an attempt to find this matter. As for dark energy it's so incredibly vague. All we know is the universe is expanding faster so someone came up with the hypothesis of dark energy as a way to get people looking for the source of the energy that is causing this phenomena but instead of people trying to find the source they simply began running around calling the non-observed energy Dark Energy. As for Dark Matter this theory came about becuase of our current understanding of gravity. Models of galaxies on computer simulations would begin flinging themselves apart into space. The only way to get the models to work the same way we see galaxies working in real life was to add a fuck ton of more matter to it than we actually observe within the galaxies due to our current formula for gravity. This is what stopped the galaxies in the computer modeling to stop flinging themselves apart. That is too easily argued away by simply saying our understanding of gravity isn't accurate which is a statement that's known to be true. If you're a researcher you absolutely have to be clear when speaking that these are not absolutes and this guest speaker is doing the exact opposite. If people's picture of reality is incorrect that makes them insane. To give the impression that these are absolutes can cause others to have an inaccurate picture of reality. That's the purpose of propaganda, not science.
The question was answered right at the beginning with the example of evolution - we don't know how life started but once it did, life has exploded into the various forms we see today
well, that got a little tasty :) (brit speak for a little bit of friction, tension eg at 59min), when the panel started discussing universe versus multiverse theories the disagreement was very interesting, engaging, and informative to listen to. and i enjoyed the different perspectives on the theories i hope they compose more panels in the same vein
Slevin Channel 🐟 05. THE PHENOMENAL UNIVERSE: The fact that the external, phenomenal universe (“prakṛti”, in Sanskrit) of names and forms (“nāmarūpa”, in Sanskrit/Pali) exists solely within personal consciousness (and by extension, Universal Consciousness), is superlatively logical. If this material world actually existed as a separate reality, then obviously, it would have limits, because the nature of matter is that it has a measurable, three-dimensional finitude. Therefore, if one were to travel to the edge of the universe, there would need to be something WITHOUT the boundary of the universe (some other ’’universe’’, which contains this universe). This contradicts the very concept of a universe (literally, “turned into one”). The late, great Professor Dr. Alan Watts’ response to the question: “where is the universe located?”, was: “nowhere and everywhere”. This phenomenal manifestation is composed of space, time, energy, and matter, the latter of which comprises eight elemental groups - the five GROSS elements (“mahābhūta”, in Sanskrit), which are perceivable by at least one of the five senses, and the three SUBTLE elements (“tanmātra” or “atisūkṣma mātra”, in Sanskrit), which are symptomatic of localized consciousness. N. B. Dark matter is not included in this system, as cosmological science has yet to determine its structural composition. The five gross material elements and three subtle material elements are (from most gross to most subtle): SOLIDS (AKA earth - “bhūmiḥ” or “pṛthivī”, in Sanskrit) are made of densely-packed atoms and molecules of a steady shape at room temperature. LIQUIDS (AKA water - “jala” or “āpaḥ”, in Sanskrit) are composed of moderately dense molecules (usually including at least some water) of no fixed shape. GAS (AKA air - “vāyuḥ” or “marut”, in Sanskrit) consists of rarefied atomic particles of no fixed shape. HEAT (AKA fire - “analaḥ” or “tejas”, in Sanskrit) is made of kinetic energy (which may or may not appear visibly as fire, or at least heat waves). ETHER (AKA space - “ākāśa” or “khaṃ”, in Sanskrit) is a vacuum consisting of three-dimensional space (length, breadth, and width). However, recent investigation has confirmed that empty space is actually filled with virtual particles (matter and antimatter). Thus, the explanation for the material universe being created from “nothing” (anti-matter) is plausible, according to quantum field theory. MIND (“manaḥ”, in Sanskrit) is composed of sensual perceptions, instinctual thoughts, abstract images (including memories and fantasies), and emotions. Not all animal species possess a mind, but function purely on base instincts, originating from their genetic code, via a rudimentary nervous system. INTELLECT (“buddhiḥ”, in Sanskrit) consists of conceptual thoughts. Only the very higher species of animal life possess an intellectual capacity. PSEUDO-EGO (“ahaṃkāraḥ”, in Sanskrit) is comprised of the “I” thought (in this case, the illusory, temporal self-identity). Only humans possess the self-awareness necessary to question their own existence. Read Chapter 10 for a full elucidation of egoity. Each of the FIVE gross material elements corresponds to one of the senses of the body. E.g. In outer space, where there is a vacuum (ether), one can detect light with the eyes, yet space is not tactile and cannot be smelled or tasted, nor can sound waves travel via space. At the opposite extreme, solid matter can be seen with the eyes, felt with the sense of touch, tasted with the tongue, smelt with the nose, and heard with the ear (when the solid matter is physically vibrated). Beyond these eight material elements is the TRUE self - which pervades the entire body, and indeed, which is the Universal Self (“ayam ātmā brahma”, in Sanskrit). That explains why we say: “This is my body” or “I possess a mind”. Who is the owner of the body and the mind? It is us, the anti-matter, the inextinguishable authentic self/Self (“ātmana/Paramātmana”, in Sanskrit). Ultimately speaking, the Universal Self alone is. HOWEVER, all eight elements are in fact “made” of Consciousness, since, as demonstrated previously, naught but Consciousness exists. Consciousness is the ultimate reality (“prajñānam brahma”, in Sanskrit). Just as a wedding ring depends on gold for its very existence, so too does the phenomenal universe depend entirely on ”Beingness” or “Isness”, Consciousness, and Blissful Awareness. Although The Absolute cannot be verbally-described, (otherwise, it would be an OBJECT), as a concession to materialists, Infinite Consciousness has said to exhibit three innate attributes, known as “sacchidānanda”, a compounded Sanskrit epithet, consisting of the three words “sat”, “cit” and “ānanda” - Eternal Being(ness), Existence, or Truth; Conscious Knowledge; and Perfect Peace (often translated as “bliss”. However, the term “bliss” connotes an ephemeral experience of euphoria, whereas “peace” is the absence of any form of temporal suffering). Because Absolutely Nothing (“Brahman”, in Sanskrit) is Infinite Creative Potentiality, it actualizes as Absolutely Everything. Attributeless Consciousness at Rest (in Sanskrit, “Nirguna Brahman”) manifests as this phenomenal universe (Consciousness in Action, or in Sanskrit, “Saguna Brahman”). In the verbiage of quantum physics, the enfolded implicate order ‘becomes’ the unfolded explicate order. In REALITY there is no separation of anything at any time (assuming that Consciousness is a “thing”, and that time is an attribute of The Uncaused Absolute). That the total sum energy of the universe is zero, implies the non-existence of matter (i. e. no thing exists objectively). The phenomenal manifestation is eternally cyclical, because ‘coming into existence’ implies ‘going out of existence’, just as ‘black’ implies the existence of ‘white’, or as ‘rich’ implies ‘poor’. Is it possible to have something without nothing? Obviously not, because the two go together, as interrelated opposites. Similarly, despite what most believe, the outer-world is as much the Self as the inner-world. Where is the boundary of the human body? When we look at a person, we cannot see that person UNLESS we also see the background image. The two are inseparable, just as a flower and a bee cannot exist without the other. This fact alone is ample evidence that the universe is a holistic and wholistic system or entity. You who are reading these words are that Totality of Existence, the Highest Universal Principle, the Essential Irreducible Self. In common parlance, you are God (IF you only knew it!). Most of the greatest sages in history have spoken about either or both these concepts (of the Absolute Truth being either Absolutely Everything or Absolute Nothingness), such as the concept of “nirvana” in Buddhism, or in Avatar Meher Baba's book “The Everything and the Nothing” (which is highly-recommended, particularly Chapters 51 to 56, which poetically describe the Ineffable One-without-a-second). Even an ordinary writer, American author Kurt Vonnegut, once penned: “Everything is nothing - with a twist”. The Stanford Institute for Theoretical Physics professor, Doctor Leonard Susskind's so-called “minus-first law of physics” states that information is INDESTRUCTIBLE. This is akin to the law of conservation of energy in classical physics, and proves that neither physical or psychic energy is lost. Read subsequent chapters to learn more about how this law relates to the notion of reincarnation, as well as to miraculous phenomena such as savant syndrome. The planet on which we are residing consists of animate/organic life, as well as inanimate/inorganic matter. The six stages of ORGANIC life are: 1. conception/birth 2. growth/development 3. maintenance 4. reproduction 5. ageing/deterioration 6. death British polymath Thomas Young's famous double-slit experiment suggests that matter exists purely as potentiality or as a "possibility" until it is observed by a conscious being. This phenomenon, known as the wave-particle duality, is often discussed in advanced spiritual discourses, as it gives credence to the primacy of Consciousness. There are other aspects of the universe (e.g. the various philosophical approaches to the nature of ontological time, the accelerated expanding universe, holographic universe principle, quantum superposition, wave function, and quantum entanglement), as well as the possibility of life on other planets, the crop circle phenomenon, and the presence of the Fibonacci sequence in nature, which are beyond the scope of this document, and which do not directly relate to the most important thing in life (to find the unending peace/happiness which we humans are ULTIMATELY seeking).
“Find out who you REALLY are so that when death comes…there is no-one to kill, for while you are identified with your role, with your name, with your ego, there is someone to kill. But when you are identified with the whole universe, death finds you already annihilated and there’s no-one to kill”. ************* “Just as you depend on the universe, so too does the universe depend on YOU. Everything depends on everything else.” Professor Alan W. Watts, British-American Philosopher. “Who is the perceiver? Universal Consciousness alone is the perceiver. The body is merely the mechanism, through which perceiving takes place and from which the ego is inferred, as the perceiver of other objects. Strictly speaking, there is neither the perceiver nor the perceived. There is only perceiving, as the objective expression of the subjective functioning, of the one Universal Consciousness.” Ramesh Balsekar, Indian Spiritual Teacher.
What if it’s just one huge universe with multiple branches that is continuously growing and developing over time. So you have the Mother Universe and then the little children universes branching out into the dark energized empty space. What some think is multi universes would actually be correct. These universes grow to form different things and doesn’t have to mirror one another.
what i think is that the universe is spilt into 3 parts and the same thing in our universe is happening in the other universes and each of the universes can never end because they all expanded if that makes sense
That is a very interesting theory! What I love about these debates is that beautiful minds honed in to a specific theory and thus extensively studied and explored their thoughts! I for one love the enamored yearning for answers that all of these people live by. One theory I have is that time is only relevant to our tangible reality. So it's extremely difficult to understand higher dimensions or paradigms with our limited capacity bounded by time. And also I think it also applies to our science and biological boundaries. Would love to hear your thoughts on this. If that's okay. 😊
And there is one universe we know so little about. In fact we know more about the Universe than we know of the 3 pound wrinkly meatball between our ears. The brain is TRULY mysterious!
I give you a quote from Sir Arthur Eddington:(close, anyway) "The Universe is not only stranger than you imagine it to be, it is stranger than you CAN imagine it to be." The effort of most scientists is to develop an understanding of the operating principles of the Universe such that humans can use that understanding to control the Universe insofar as that will be possible. Without an understanding of and control of the operations of the Universe we have to live with beliefs rather than being able to affect the Universe.
I agree.....because they are discounting his hypothesis but yet cannot prove that it is absolutely invalid. To say to persue the research because its not predictive is so unlike the nature of a scientist
The Turok cyclic model is bizarre because it's essentially an extremely watered down version of the multiverse. He's describing a landscape of two braneworlds colliding and expands for about a trillion years and recollapses into a big crunch which initiates another big bang, ad infinitum. Personally, I'm a huge fan of the multiverse theory.
Loved this conversation, the Russian physicist Andre is funny and informative.thanks to all the scientists that communicate these big topics freely to all who are interested.
It was a debate? I think they're all the same, materialists. Mention quantum mind , then you'd see a debate. Thats why so many scientists are coming out against where the money is being wasted on the human brain project. The idiots running it are of the opinion that if you can't see it under a microscope it can't be mind. Its just the same artificial intelligence crowd with a bunch of cash to blow.
Can we all agree that the moderator (for a non scientist) did a fabtastic job? It's got to be a very hard gig to be funny and engaging and fair and thoughtful.
Interesting. That is something that I have told the masses many years ago and even recently. And more interesting is, it was before observing anyone else's theory.
Great channel! I think that each universe is connected; I mean, I think that multiverse might be real, but not that every alternative exists, since everything that happens in one of the universes has to have an effect on all others, albeit the effect might be infinitesimally small. We can notice such phenomenon in our own world, and there's no example that I know of where the opposite's true. Most notably planets and stars, might to some extent seem like separate entities but gravity reaches across the entire universe, and there's no reason to think that the forces of our own universe don't effect others. And if the forces effect other universes, then the multiverse is a single universe, since the forces of our own can reach out to all other universes.
I think so because if multiversum exist everything that is conceivable can exist and in combination with time curvature at black holes and as yet unknown dimension portals are conceivable, the question is why that possibility would not exist?
I do That explains UFOs They are from another universe they come here out of curiosity Analogy A primitive tribe visited by anthropogists in helicopter
Dr. Alan Guth said, once they accounted for the addition of "dark energy" it made the prediction for inflation spot on within about a half of a percent. I'm just confused about the whole "dark energy" part. I thought it was called "dark energy" because we cannot explain it and don't understand why "it" occurs. If anyone could help make sense of his comment it would be appreciated. Love this kick ass panel though! They're all legends
in my gravitational field model. it leads to an odd possibility, that there are gravitational flux points that could result in slurred reality. not multiple universes, but polar moments of displaced wave function, that could displace entropy to a multi state of existence overlaying one another. imagine it like having multiple negatives of a single picture, with each having a different possibility of that photo, from fractions of that moment, the entropic outcomes, all then account into this. as we make choices, we take one or more of those slides out, but say another person chooses opposite to you. you stack these negatives, and then print the picture. all these negatives accumulate into one image, where the picture would from it to the other potential outcome, outline a true moment of time. so you can sit on a troff or crest of a gravitational field frequency, and exist in a completely seperate stack of these negatives of photos that make up your own reality. so one polar moment of entropy, could cause you to exist in a completely seperate hologram like outcome, than to another's. think of it like a mirage. you don't really know what is on the other side of that refraction of light. well this is like a refraction of gravity that displaces time between those potential moments, though they exist in the same space and time, they have a seperate probability to equal that exact truth of the moment itself. sounds insane, but it could derive good and bad choices, to create a perception of hell vs heaven on earth. where people outputting these more positive gravitational troff choices or negative crest choices, fabricate their own realities.
I love all these Guys and the moderator and and this particular episode. ( I think I have seen this episode like 7 times just like Charles Bronson's: The Mechanic and I m not getting tired of it just like the The Mech.)
I've been listening to I've been listening to a lot of these physics lectures or whatever you want to call them conferences for the public and every time I hear Andre with that accent he's so freaking funny and so intelligent it's crazy and it's cool and I love this guy. He's mind is as infinite as his theories are or his beliefs and theories I should say LOL yep he's just an amazing guy with the sense of humor that is a sharp as a knife period every time I hear one of these conferences and he's in it I know it's going to be a fun one anyway the multi-world world the multi-universe theory I would love to believe it I don't know what to believe I've heard the pros and cons on both sides from different videos and lectures and conferences. And you know when I hear someone like Andre on the pro side of the multiverse Siri you know I have so much respect for this man and his intelligence that you know maybe I got to start thinking that you know there's a me in the next universe over that can see and wouldn't that be wonderful anyway this is one long sentence I'm sure the text to speech which I use due to my blindness has its own unique take on the English language so forgive me those errors actually they're not my errors they're the phones and the speech to text apps errors nonetheless I apologize I hope what I'm saying there's a lot of times when I'm trying to say and comes out as gibberish sometimes it comes out completely different and it's a whole another story LOL but that's about it so everyone stay safe put on your masks sincere yours, Bob the blind bedroom guitarist Bob the blind bedroom guitarist
Well you see there is the DC multiverse and the Marvel multiverse and most recently there is the development of the Dragon Ball multiverse, exciting times indeed lol
35:28 so did we basically discover the map of the universe? since all the red (dense) parts just expanded away from each other but maintaining the same ratio. I wonder where we are on the map.
I'm a little late to visit this lecture series so I will confess that I have found great amusement and comfort in this panel's participants - for a collection of scholars whose careers have been so dependent on maths - they sure are loose with specifics regarding time. Don't hate on this observation- I am merely revealing in their enthusiasm with them. :)
Slevin Channel 🐟 05. THE PHENOMENAL UNIVERSE: The fact that the external, phenomenal universe (“prakṛti”, in Sanskrit) of names and forms (“nāmarūpa”, in Sanskrit/Pali) exists solely within personal consciousness (and by extension, Universal Consciousness), is superlatively logical. If this material world actually existed as a separate reality, then obviously, it would have limits, because the nature of matter is that it has a measurable, three-dimensional finitude. Therefore, if one were to travel to the edge of the universe, there would need to be something WITHOUT the boundary of the universe (some other ’’universe’’, which contains this universe). This contradicts the very concept of a universe (literally, “turned into one”). The late, great Professor Dr. Alan Watts’ response to the question: “where is the universe located?”, was: “nowhere and everywhere”. This phenomenal manifestation is composed of space, time, energy, and matter, the latter of which comprises eight elemental groups - the five GROSS elements (“mahābhūta”, in Sanskrit), which are perceivable by at least one of the five senses, and the three SUBTLE elements (“tanmātra” or “atisūkṣma mātra”, in Sanskrit), which are symptomatic of localized consciousness. N. B. Dark matter is not included in this system, as cosmological science has yet to determine its structural composition. The five gross material elements and three subtle material elements are (from most gross to most subtle): SOLIDS (AKA earth - “bhūmiḥ” or “pṛthivī”, in Sanskrit) are made of densely-packed atoms and molecules of a steady shape at room temperature. LIQUIDS (AKA water - “jala” or “āpaḥ”, in Sanskrit) are composed of moderately dense molecules (usually including at least some water) of no fixed shape. GAS (AKA air - “vāyuḥ” or “marut”, in Sanskrit) consists of rarefied atomic particles of no fixed shape. HEAT (AKA fire - “analaḥ” or “tejas”, in Sanskrit) is made of kinetic energy (which may or may not appear visibly as fire, or at least heat waves). ETHER (AKA space - “ākāśa” or “khaṃ”, in Sanskrit) is a vacuum consisting of three-dimensional space (length, breadth, and width). However, recent investigation has confirmed that empty space is actually filled with virtual particles (matter and antimatter). Thus, the explanation for the material universe being created from “nothing” (anti-matter) is plausible, according to quantum field theory. MIND (“manaḥ”, in Sanskrit) is composed of sensual perceptions, instinctual thoughts, abstract images (including memories and fantasies), and emotions. Not all animal species possess a mind, but function purely on base instincts, originating from their genetic code, via a rudimentary nervous system. INTELLECT (“buddhiḥ”, in Sanskrit) consists of conceptual thoughts. Only the very higher species of animal life possess an intellectual capacity. PSEUDO-EGO (“ahaṃkāraḥ”, in Sanskrit) is comprised of the “I” thought (in this case, the illusory, temporal self-identity). Only humans possess the self-awareness necessary to question their own existence. Read Chapter 10 for a full elucidation of egoity. Each of the FIVE gross material elements corresponds to one of the senses of the body. E.g. In outer space, where there is a vacuum (ether), one can detect light with the eyes, yet space is not tactile and cannot be smelled or tasted, nor can sound waves travel via space. At the opposite extreme, solid matter can be seen with the eyes, felt with the sense of touch, tasted with the tongue, smelt with the nose, and heard with the ear (when the solid matter is physically vibrated). Beyond these eight material elements is the TRUE self - which pervades the entire body, and indeed, which is the Universal Self (“ayam ātmā brahma”, in Sanskrit). That explains why we say: “This is my body” or “I possess a mind”. Who is the owner of the body and the mind? It is us, the anti-matter, the inextinguishable authentic self/Self (“ātmana/Paramātmana”, in Sanskrit). Ultimately speaking, the Universal Self alone is. HOWEVER, all eight elements are in fact “made” of Consciousness, since, as demonstrated previously, naught but Consciousness exists. Consciousness is the ultimate reality (“prajñānam brahma”, in Sanskrit). Just as a wedding ring depends on gold for its very existence, so too does the phenomenal universe depend entirely on ”Beingness” or “Isness”, Consciousness, and Blissful Awareness. Although The Absolute cannot be verbally-described, (otherwise, it would be an OBJECT), as a concession to materialists, Infinite Consciousness has said to exhibit three innate attributes, known as “sacchidānanda”, a compounded Sanskrit epithet, consisting of the three words “sat”, “cit” and “ānanda” - Eternal Being(ness), Existence, or Truth; Conscious Knowledge; and Perfect Peace (often translated as “bliss”. However, the term “bliss” connotes an ephemeral experience of euphoria, whereas “peace” is the absence of any form of temporal suffering). Because Absolutely Nothing (“Brahman”, in Sanskrit) is Infinite Creative Potentiality, it actualizes as Absolutely Everything. Attributeless Consciousness at Rest (in Sanskrit, “Nirguna Brahman”) manifests as this phenomenal universe (Consciousness in Action, or in Sanskrit, “Saguna Brahman”). In the verbiage of quantum physics, the enfolded implicate order ‘becomes’ the unfolded explicate order. In REALITY there is no separation of anything at any time (assuming that Consciousness is a “thing”, and that time is an attribute of The Uncaused Absolute). That the total sum energy of the universe is zero, implies the non-existence of matter (i. e. no thing exists objectively). The phenomenal manifestation is eternally cyclical, because ‘coming into existence’ implies ‘going out of existence’, just as ‘black’ implies the existence of ‘white’, or as ‘rich’ implies ‘poor’. Is it possible to have something without nothing? Obviously not, because the two go together, as interrelated opposites. Similarly, despite what most believe, the outer-world is as much the Self as the inner-world. Where is the boundary of the human body? When we look at a person, we cannot see that person UNLESS we also see the background image. The two are inseparable, just as a flower and a bee cannot exist without the other. This fact alone is ample evidence that the universe is a holistic and wholistic system or entity. You who are reading these words are that Totality of Existence, the Highest Universal Principle, the Essential Irreducible Self. In common parlance, you are God (IF you only knew it!). Most of the greatest sages in history have spoken about either or both these concepts (of the Absolute Truth being either Absolutely Everything or Absolute Nothingness), such as the concept of “nirvana” in Buddhism, or in Avatar Meher Baba's book “The Everything and the Nothing” (which is highly-recommended, particularly Chapters 51 to 56, which poetically describe the Ineffable One-without-a-second). Even an ordinary writer, American author Kurt Vonnegut, once penned: “Everything is nothing - with a twist”. The Stanford Institute for Theoretical Physics professor, Doctor Leonard Susskind's so-called “minus-first law of physics” states that information is INDESTRUCTIBLE. This is akin to the law of conservation of energy in classical physics, and proves that neither physical or psychic energy is lost. Read subsequent chapters to learn more about how this law relates to the notion of reincarnation, as well as to miraculous phenomena such as savant syndrome. The planet on which we are residing consists of animate/organic life, as well as inanimate/inorganic matter. The six stages of ORGANIC life are: 1. conception/birth 2. growth/development 3. maintenance 4. reproduction 5. ageing/deterioration 6. death British polymath Thomas Young's famous double-slit experiment suggests that matter exists purely as potentiality or as a "possibility" until it is observed by a conscious being. This phenomenon, known as the wave-particle duality, is often discussed in advanced spiritual discourses, as it gives credence to the primacy of Consciousness. There are other aspects of the universe (e.g. the various philosophical approaches to the nature of ontological time, the accelerated expanding universe, holographic universe principle, quantum superposition, wave function, and quantum entanglement), as well as the possibility of life on other planets, the crop circle phenomenon, and the presence of the Fibonacci sequence in nature, which are beyond the scope of this document, and which do not directly relate to the most important thing in life (to find the unending peace/happiness which we humans are ULTIMATELY seeking).
“Find out who you REALLY are so that when death comes…there is no-one to kill, for while you are identified with your role, with your name, with your ego, there is someone to kill. But when you are identified with the whole universe, death finds you already annihilated and there’s no-one to kill”. ************* “Just as you depend on the universe, so too does the universe depend on YOU. Everything depends on everything else.” Professor Alan W. Watts, British-American Philosopher. “Who is the perceiver? Universal Consciousness alone is the perceiver. The body is merely the mechanism, through which perceiving takes place and from which the ego is inferred, as the perceiver of other objects. Strictly speaking, there is neither the perceiver nor the perceived. There is only perceiving, as the objective expression of the subjective functioning, of the one Universal Consciousness.” Ramesh Balsekar, Indian Spiritual Teacher.
We have many Universes, they equal the dimensions, they are directly related. All the weirdness is the multiverse sharing it to Our Universe.Yes we are connected.
The real you is the you right now. Those persons who are like you is not you. If you clone yourself he will be another person. Free will and reasoning is a separate entity
love Neil Turok ,he is such a honnest scientist and one of the greatest minds and i love the way he crush all the arrogant scientist who are 100 % sure their theory about inflation and multiverse is right..like Alan Guth, and Andrei Linde
idk why he didn't I noticed that also if you still answer this bc this is a year old post do u remember how the host was towards him ? I felt like the dude was being rude to him and kinda making him sound stupid/making his theory sound not serious.
I can hardly add 2+2 and come up w/ 4. But these presentions interest me sooo much. In thinking about multi-universes I think about snowflakes. No two are the same, however together they are all the same...snow!
The most important issue is not mentioned at all in these discussions. If we use the issue of TIME: what happens before and after. SPACE: what is outside that area. Humans cannot perceive unlimited TIME & SPACE.
If maths are just products of statistical perception, then it is at the least possible that we can perceive of principles and dynamics of cosmology that encompass unlimited time and space.
Instead of trying to figure out the unknown, maybe finding out an equation for making world peace and taking care our planet. We will never know what's truly in space but can fix problems we face on earth.
🐟 05. THE PHENOMENAL UNIVERSE: The fact that the external, phenomenal universe (“prakṛti”, in Sanskrit) of names and forms (“nāmarūpa”, in Sanskrit/Pali) exists solely within personal consciousness (and by extension, Universal Consciousness), is superlatively logical. If this material world actually existed as a separate reality, then obviously, it would have limits, because the nature of matter is that it has a measurable, three-dimensional finitude. Therefore, if one were to travel to the edge of the universe, there would need to be something WITHOUT the boundary of the universe (some other ’’universe’’, which contains this universe). This contradicts the very concept of a universe (literally, “turned into one”). The late, great Professor Dr. Alan Watts’ response to the question: “where is the universe located?”, was: “nowhere and everywhere”. This phenomenal manifestation is composed of space, time, energy, and matter, the latter of which comprises eight elemental groups - the five GROSS elements (“mahābhūta”, in Sanskrit), which are perceivable by at least one of the five senses, and the three SUBTLE elements (“tanmātra” or “atisūkṣma mātra”, in Sanskrit), which are symptomatic of localized consciousness. N. B. Dark matter is not included in this system, as cosmological science has yet to determine its structural composition. The five gross material elements and three subtle material elements are (from most gross to most subtle): SOLIDS (AKA earth - “bhūmiḥ” or “pṛthivī”, in Sanskrit) are made of densely-packed atoms and molecules of a steady shape at room temperature. LIQUIDS (AKA water - “jala” or “āpaḥ”, in Sanskrit) are composed of moderately dense molecules (usually including at least some water) of no fixed shape. GAS (AKA air - “vāyuḥ” or “marut”, in Sanskrit) consists of rarefied atomic particles of no fixed shape. HEAT (AKA fire - “analaḥ” or “tejas”, in Sanskrit) is made of kinetic energy (which may or may not appear visibly as fire, or at least heat waves). ETHER (AKA space - “ākāśa” or “khaṃ”, in Sanskrit) is a vacuum consisting of three-dimensional space (length, breadth, and width). However, recent investigation has confirmed that empty space is actually filled with virtual particles (matter and antimatter). Thus, the explanation for the material universe being created from “nothing” (anti-matter) is plausible, according to quantum field theory. MIND (“manaḥ”, in Sanskrit) is composed of sensual perceptions, instinctual thoughts, abstract images (including memories and fantasies), and emotions. Not all animal species possess a mind, but function purely on base instincts, originating from their genetic code, via a rudimentary nervous system. INTELLECT (“buddhiḥ”, in Sanskrit) consists of conceptual thoughts. Only the very higher species of animal life possess an intellectual capacity. PSEUDO-EGO (“ahaṃkāraḥ”, in Sanskrit) is comprised of the “I” thought (in this case, the illusory, temporal self-identity). Only humans possess the self-awareness necessary to question their own existence. Read Chapter 10 for a full elucidation of egoity. Each of the FIVE gross material elements corresponds to one of the senses of the body. E.g. In outer space, where there is a vacuum (ether), one can detect light with the eyes, yet space is not tactile and cannot be smelled or tasted, nor can sound waves travel via space. At the opposite extreme, solid matter can be seen with the eyes, felt with the sense of touch, tasted with the tongue, smelt with the nose, and heard with the ear (when the solid matter is physically vibrated). Beyond these eight material elements is the TRUE self - which pervades the entire body, and indeed, which is the Universal Self (“ayam ātmā brahma”, in Sanskrit). That explains why we say: “This is my body” or “I possess a mind”. Who is the owner of the body and the mind? It is us, the anti-matter, the inextinguishable authentic self/Self (“ātmana/Paramātmana”, in Sanskrit). Ultimately speaking, the Universal Self alone is. HOWEVER, all eight elements are in fact “made” of Consciousness, since, as demonstrated previously, naught but Consciousness exists. Consciousness is the ultimate reality (“prajñānam brahma”, in Sanskrit). Just as a wedding ring depends on gold for its very existence, so too does the phenomenal universe depend entirely on ”Beingness” or “Isness”, Consciousness, and Blissful Awareness. Although The Absolute cannot be verbally-described, (otherwise, it would be an OBJECT), as a concession to materialists, Infinite Consciousness has said to exhibit three innate attributes, known as “sacchidānanda”, a compounded Sanskrit epithet, consisting of the three words “sat”, “cit” and “ānanda” - Eternal Being(ness), Existence, or Truth; Conscious Knowledge; and Perfect Peace (often translated as “bliss”. However, the term “bliss” connotes an ephemeral experience of euphoria, whereas “peace” is the absence of any form of temporal suffering). Because Absolutely Nothing (“Brahman”, in Sanskrit) is Infinite Creative Potentiality, it actualizes as Absolutely Everything. Attributeless Consciousness at Rest (in Sanskrit, “Nirguna Brahman”) manifests as this phenomenal universe (Consciousness in Action, or in Sanskrit, “Saguna Brahman”). In the verbiage of quantum physics, the enfolded implicate order ‘becomes’ the unfolded explicate order. In REALITY there is no separation of anything at any time (assuming that Consciousness is a “thing”, and that time is an attribute of The Uncaused Absolute). The phenomenal manifestation is eternally cyclical, because ‘coming into existence’ implies ‘going out of existence’, just as ‘black’ implies the existence of ‘white’, or as ‘rich’ implies ‘poor’. Is it possible to have something without nothing? Obviously not, because the two go together, as interrelated opposites. Similarly, despite what most believe, the outer-world is as much the Self as the inner-world. Where is the boundary of the human body? When we look at a person, we cannot see that person UNLESS we also see the background image. The two are inseparable, just as a flower and a bee cannot exist without the other. This fact alone is ample evidence that the universe is a holistic and wholistic system or entity. You who are reading these words are that Totality of Existence, the Highest Universal Principle, the Essential Irreducible Self. In common parlance, you are God (IF you only knew it!). Most of the greatest sages in history have spoken about either or both these concepts (of the Absolute Truth being either Absolutely Everything or Absolute Nothingness), such as the concept of “nirvana” in Buddhism, or in Avatar Meher Baba's book “The Everything and the Nothing” (which is highly-recommended, particularly Chapters 51 to 56, which poetically describe the Ineffable One-without-a-second). Even an ordinary writer, American author Kurt Vonnegut, once penned: “Everything is nothing - with a twist”. The Stanford Institute for Theoretical Physics professor, Doctor Leonard Susskind's so-called “minus-first law of physics” states that information is INDESTRUCTIBLE. This is akin to the law of conservation of energy in classical physics, and proves that neither physical or psychic energy is lost. Read subsequent chapters to learn more about how this law relates to the notion of reincarnation, as well as to miraculous phenomena such as savant syndrome. The planet on which we are residing consists of animate/organic life, as well as inanimate/inorganic matter. The six stages of ORGANIC life are: 1. conception/birth 2. growth/development 3. maintenance 4. reproduction 5. ageing/deterioration 6. death British polymath Thomas Young's famous double-slit experiment suggests that matter exists purely as potentiality or as a "possibility" until it is observed by a conscious being. This phenomenon, known as the wave-particle duality, is often discussed in advanced spiritual discourses, as it gives credence to the primacy of Consciousness. There are other aspects of the universe (e.g. the various philosophical approaches to the nature of ontological time, the accelerated expanding universe, holographic universe principle, quantum superposition, wave function, and quantum entanglement), as well as the possibility of life on other planets, the crop circle phenomenon, and the presence of the Fibonacci sequence in nature, which are beyond the scope of this document, and which do not directly relate to the most important thing in life (to find the unending peace/happiness which we humans are ULTIMATELY seeking).
“Find out who you REALLY are so that when death comes…there is no-one to kill, for while you are identified with your role, with your name, with your ego, there is someone to kill. But when you are identified with the whole universe, death finds you already annihilated and there’s no-one to kill”. ************* “Just as you depend on the universe, so too does the universe depend on YOU. Everything depends on everything else.” Professor Alan W. Watts, British-American Philosopher. “Who is the perceiver? Universal Consciousness alone is the perceiver. The body is merely the mechanism, through which perceiving takes place and from which the ego is inferred, as the perceiver of other objects. Strictly speaking, there is neither the perceiver nor the perceived. There is only perceiving, as the objective expression of the subjective functioning, of the one Universal Consciousness.” Ramesh Balsekar, Indian Spiritual Teacher.
Remember when we thought the galaxies were "Island Universes"? What if all we know and see is just one spherical universe separated by simply more space from other similar spherical universes as far apart from one another as one star is separated from another.
9_Bucks Slevin Channel 🐟 05. THE PHENOMENAL UNIVERSE: The fact that the external, phenomenal universe (“prakṛti”, in Sanskrit) of names and forms (“nāmarūpa”, in Sanskrit/Pali) exists solely within personal consciousness (and by extension, Universal Consciousness), is superlatively logical. If this material world actually existed as a separate reality, then obviously, it would have limits, because the nature of matter is that it has a measurable, three-dimensional finitude. Therefore, if one were to travel to the edge of the universe, there would need to be something WITHOUT the boundary of the universe (some other ’’universe’’, which contains this universe). This contradicts the very concept of a universe (literally, “turned into one”). The late, great Professor Dr. Alan Watts’ response to the question: “where is the universe located?”, was: “nowhere and everywhere”. This phenomenal manifestation is composed of space, time, energy, and matter, the latter of which comprises eight elemental groups - the five GROSS elements (“mahābhūta”, in Sanskrit), which are perceivable by at least one of the five senses, and the three SUBTLE elements (“tanmātra” or “atisūkṣma mātra”, in Sanskrit), which are symptomatic of localized consciousness. N. B. Dark matter is not included in this system, as cosmological science has yet to determine its structural composition. The five gross material elements and three subtle material elements are (from most gross to most subtle): SOLIDS (AKA earth - “bhūmiḥ” or “pṛthivī”, in Sanskrit) are made of densely-packed atoms and molecules of a steady shape at room temperature. LIQUIDS (AKA water - “jala” or “āpaḥ”, in Sanskrit) are composed of moderately dense molecules (usually including at least some water) of no fixed shape. GAS (AKA air - “vāyuḥ” or “marut”, in Sanskrit) consists of rarefied atomic particles of no fixed shape. HEAT (AKA fire - “analaḥ” or “tejas”, in Sanskrit) is made of kinetic energy (which may or may not appear visibly as fire, or at least heat waves). ETHER (AKA space - “ākāśa” or “khaṃ”, in Sanskrit) is a vacuum consisting of three-dimensional space (length, breadth, and width). However, recent investigation has confirmed that empty space is actually filled with virtual particles (matter and antimatter). Thus, the explanation for the material universe being created from “nothing” (anti-matter) is plausible, according to quantum field theory. MIND (“manaḥ”, in Sanskrit) is composed of sensual perceptions, instinctual thoughts, abstract images (including memories and fantasies), and emotions. Not all animal species possess a mind, but function purely on base instincts, originating from their genetic code, via a rudimentary nervous system. INTELLECT (“buddhiḥ”, in Sanskrit) consists of conceptual thoughts. Only the very higher species of animal life possess an intellectual capacity. PSEUDO-EGO (“ahaṃkāraḥ”, in Sanskrit) is comprised of the “I” thought (in this case, the illusory, temporal self-identity). Only humans possess the self-awareness necessary to question their own existence. Read Chapter 10 for a full elucidation of egoity. Each of the FIVE gross material elements corresponds to one of the senses of the body. E.g. In outer space, where there is a vacuum (ether), one can detect light with the eyes, yet space is not tactile and cannot be smelled or tasted, nor can sound waves travel via space. At the opposite extreme, solid matter can be seen with the eyes, felt with the sense of touch, tasted with the tongue, smelt with the nose, and heard with the ear (when the solid matter is physically vibrated). Beyond these eight material elements is the TRUE self - which pervades the entire body, and indeed, which is the Universal Self (“ayam ātmā brahma”, in Sanskrit). That explains why we say: “This is my body” or “I possess a mind”. Who is the owner of the body and the mind? It is us, the anti-matter, the inextinguishable authentic self/Self (“ātmana/Paramātmana”, in Sanskrit). Ultimately speaking, the Universal Self alone is. HOWEVER, all eight elements are in fact “made” of Consciousness, since, as demonstrated previously, naught but Consciousness exists. Consciousness is the ultimate reality (“prajñānam brahma”, in Sanskrit). Just as a wedding ring depends on gold for its very existence, so too does the phenomenal universe depend entirely on ”Beingness” or “Isness”, Consciousness, and Blissful Awareness. Although The Absolute cannot be verbally-described, (otherwise, it would be an OBJECT), as a concession to materialists, Infinite Consciousness has said to exhibit three innate attributes, known as “sacchidānanda”, a compounded Sanskrit epithet, consisting of the three words “sat”, “cit” and “ānanda” - Eternal Being(ness), Existence, or Truth; Conscious Knowledge; and Perfect Peace (often translated as “bliss”. However, the term “bliss” connotes an ephemeral experience of euphoria, whereas “peace” is the absence of any form of temporal suffering). Because Absolutely Nothing (“Brahman”, in Sanskrit) is Infinite Creative Potentiality, it actualizes as Absolutely Everything. Attributeless Consciousness at Rest (in Sanskrit, “Nirguna Brahman”) manifests as this phenomenal universe (Consciousness in Action, or in Sanskrit, “Saguna Brahman”). In the verbiage of quantum physics, the enfolded implicate order ‘becomes’ the unfolded explicate order. In REALITY there is no separation of anything at any time (assuming that Consciousness is a “thing”, and that time is an attribute of The Uncaused Absolute). That the total sum energy of the universe is zero, implies the non-existence of matter (i. e. no thing exists objectively). The phenomenal manifestation is eternally cyclical, because ‘coming into existence’ implies ‘going out of existence’, just as ‘black’ implies the existence of ‘white’, or as ‘rich’ implies ‘poor’. Is it possible to have something without nothing? Obviously not, because the two go together, as interrelated opposites. Similarly, despite what most believe, the outer-world is as much the Self as the inner-world. Where is the boundary of the human body? When we look at a person, we cannot see that person UNLESS we also see the background image. The two are inseparable, just as a flower and a bee cannot exist without the other. This fact alone is ample evidence that the universe is a holistic and wholistic system or entity. You who are reading these words are that Totality of Existence, the Highest Universal Principle, the Essential Irreducible Self. In common parlance, you are God (IF you only knew it!). Most of the greatest sages in history have spoken about either or both these concepts (of the Absolute Truth being either Absolutely Everything or Absolute Nothingness), such as the concept of “nirvana” in Buddhism, or in Avatar Meher Baba's book “The Everything and the Nothing” (which is highly-recommended, particularly Chapters 51 to 56, which poetically describe the Ineffable One-without-a-second). Even an ordinary writer, American author Kurt Vonnegut, once penned: “Everything is nothing - with a twist”. The Stanford Institute for Theoretical Physics professor, Doctor Leonard Susskind's so-called “minus-first law of physics” states that information is INDESTRUCTIBLE. This is akin to the law of conservation of energy in classical physics, and proves that neither physical or psychic energy is lost. Read subsequent chapters to learn more about how this law relates to the notion of reincarnation, as well as to miraculous phenomena such as savant syndrome. The planet on which we are residing consists of animate/organic life, as well as inanimate/inorganic matter. The six stages of ORGANIC life are: 1. conception/birth 2. growth/development 3. maintenance 4. reproduction 5. ageing/deterioration 6. death British polymath Thomas Young's famous double-slit experiment suggests that matter exists purely as potentiality or as a "possibility" until it is observed by a conscious being. This phenomenon, known as the wave-particle duality, is often discussed in advanced spiritual discourses, as it gives credence to the primacy of Consciousness. There are other aspects of the universe (e.g. the various philosophical approaches to the nature of ontological time, the accelerated expanding universe, holographic universe principle, quantum superposition, wave function, and quantum entanglement), as well as the possibility of life on other planets, the crop circle phenomenon, and the presence of the Fibonacci sequence in nature, which are beyond the scope of this document, and which do not directly relate to the most important thing in life (to find the unending peace/happiness which we humans are ULTIMATELY seeking).
“Find out who you REALLY are so that when death comes…there is no-one to kill, for while you are identified with your role, with your name, with your ego, there is someone to kill. But when you are identified with the whole universe, death finds you already annihilated and there’s no-one to kill”. ************* “Just as you depend on the universe, so too does the universe depend on YOU. Everything depends on everything else.” Professor Alan W. Watts, British-American Philosopher. “Who is the perceiver? Universal Consciousness alone is the perceiver. The body is merely the mechanism, through which perceiving takes place and from which the ego is inferred, as the perceiver of other objects. Strictly speaking, there is neither the perceiver nor the perceived. There is only perceiving, as the objective expression of the subjective functioning, of the one Universal Consciousness.” Ramesh Balsekar, Indian Spiritual Teacher.
Saying that we should ignore infinity is a nonsense. Sure everything could work for us with always finite amount of data. But if nature is infinite by essence, we should not try to ignore the truth. Or we will never be right. One day in our evolution we could have some need for non finite data. Building our knowledge on potentially wrong ideas is all that we should not do.
Makes me think of how science & religion both focus on infinity and also bond with the universe in their own way. I agree that ignoring infinity is nonsense. Tho if that’s true, then there must be a fine line between the two. Mhm... or maybe science alone is the truth. I’d choose the one that can provide evidence any day. (: Out of curiosities, I studied many different religions & am confident that my opinion is not based on a bias one. Religion seems man made. Like a message being edited/distorted throughout the pages of time. Something to keep people in check throughout life, but also something man-made to secure immortality after death. Thing is... religion can explain the super natural & science cannot. That sh*t’s very real wether someone believes it or not..
I love hearing great minds like this talk, but the more they try to elucidate the nature of our universe for me and the more I take it in, the less I seem to understand.
They have the same problem. Don't worry, multiverses arent real, only hypothetical, like 2d and fairies. No one has ever seen one or ever will. Not even a hint of one except in their mathematical musing.
Indeed, a great panel and discussion, but some statements I find inexplicably nonsensical, like, “human thought is finite, so the universe must be finite.” Also, Turok has stated many times previously that ‘there are no gravity waves, so we will never find them’, but LIGO has indeed found them, so basically the credibility of his ‘simplicity of everything’ theories are now lingering somewhere around Kelvin’s statement, “Man will never achieve lighter-than-air flight.” How does he respond now? Very interesting.
By the size of this one, anything that can happen will happen in this one. Nonetheless, if this Universe is the inside of something, than the external part of it or the plane above is even bigger than this one. When we look down we see a continuum state of existence/awareness throughout the microcosm. Could we apply the same rule if there was a chance for us to look "upwards"? Is it too scary if the Universe is a being among others in his own dimension? We can't look out but if we could we wouldn't be able to process the amount of information. Pretty scary isn't it? If we truly consider the Multiverse then we have to consider that it too must be part of another whole, a Universe in which all those Universes exist separately from each other but in the same "sea". We happen to be inside one of them :)
To start of with a ball of light makes me think these people havent a fuxing clue what yhey r saying. Its all a theory and not a fact. They soind like they are completely brainwashed to me.
They simplified it for your fish brain, lushin burl. The temperature was so high not even light could travel through it. I suspect you think evolution is fake, too, and maybe that the earth is flat.
I believe our universe began from a bump or particle pimple on another universe . Once free it began to expand, and here we are. A type of particle pimple will one day form on our universe and cause another universe and so on .
@9:36 How would it be known that it was a out a millimeter across in length? I'm not sure how most of the theory is explainable but this one detail is very specific and I'm curious how it was decided
That’s what I was thinking too. Since no one (as far as we know) was there how do they know it was one millimeter in length? I believe they think one millimeter because of the math that supports the inflation theory, if I understood correctly.
What caused the Universe to expand in one direction similar to a cone and not in all directions? Shouldn’t the singularity or Big Bang be in the center of a sphere?
I think a big bang is one of many and is a when a giga black hole (100 times bigger than a super massive black hole that is created when to galaxies collide and their super massive black holes create one) is created. The mass is so concentrated at the singularity that a new universe is created with its own big bang in a new dimension and so the cycle continues like it has done for infinity.
I’ve seen somewhere that this theory is disproven or is highly unlikely but im not too sure. Interestingly enough though, i had a very bizzare dream the other week. That I was seeing in 3rd person or if I was in space looking at an infinite amount of universes in bubbles, and then two of the universes collided with each other which formed a super massive black hole. (I know sounds cliche) Which had so much energy and gravity that it collapsed in on itself and turned into just the singularity or the a very tiny point. Then the Big Bang happened in our universe. When I woke up, I honestly was mind blown about my dream. I hope your theory or my dream are possible, if anyone could shed some light into this would be great 😊
i believe in the multiverse. very interesting video but it was a bit long and had to watch it in two parts but none of the less; a very good video and i realy believe in the multiverse.
Yes "Finite" is what we achieved and "Infinite" is what we will never achieve, this is only to prove that there is something beyond our imagination that we will never comprehend but accept as it is
I've been on the multiverse train since the 90's because of comics and sci-fi. I just liked the idea back then though, now it just sounds more plausible.
I'm doing ba program with political science and economics because I haven't score good in my 12 th I took science .... But believe me I never left my curiosity in vain and I'm here 😃✨💕
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Hey atheists, what was the mechanism that triggered the big bang or big bangs???
Dunno, mate, but we'll keep looking, and if we find an answer, you can bet it'll be better than "Some hairy bloke wot lives in a cloud did it.".
Mark Hughes Hairy ??? lol
Traveling with all of this speed and distance it's no wonder that I'm so tired all of the time.
If you don’t ask the question you’ll never find an answer. Carry on my wayward sons, there be peace when you are done....
If I give you my phone number can I ask you a question? I can’t say much on hear I have a burner and I can get you one to listen we don’t have much time, Me and my team are from 2124 and you play a major role in what is about to happen in the next 2 weeks on your earth
Really?
@@Nutbuster1wow I wanna go Back to the Future with you, the people are mean here in your past!
@@Nutbuster1 sure whats your phone number?
That was a good concert.
our universe could be a sub-atomic partial of a larger reality for all we know.
and more infinitely smaller and more infinitely larger...and on and on.
Yes, very possible! I believe infinity extends towards smallness and largeness.
Michael Reynolds Zcczczc
What? 🤣
Stoner Philosophy 101.
This was awesome! Right amount of humor, slides, info, poking fun at each other. Loved it!!
"Could your fish brain handle that?"
I have never been more offended :]
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Your offense offends me madam!
Of course you're bloody offended lol
@Elon Musk Bitcoin hasn't budged since you posted your comment. I got all excited bruh.
@Elon Musk Thanks Rocket Man!!!! I'm going to be riiiiiiiiich! Filthy, filthy rich.........
wait,..16%,....14%......so rich.
The multi verse is so interesting because it might explain metaphysics, spirituality and mythology to curious classical mind.
True Brother. Greetings from Cameroon. I think it is a universe that collapse to a universe. U=You your mind is the mind-space the universe collapse into.
That`s why the multiverse theory, like alternative realities is new age religion, not science. By definition there can only be one Universe and reality. And if others existed, the evidence of it`s effect on ours would be observable. As far as observable evidence goes, The Universe evolves from nothing but the vacuum energy of empty space which is also the future state of The Universe. Hence we are living in an eternal `cyclic` Universe. But science fiction has become the most popular religion in the west because the majority find fiction more entertaining than fact. Same with other supernatural beliefs that caters for the human ego, like the illusion of `free will`.
@@jem5231 I agree with you for the most part but calling it "religion" is a bit disingenuous. It's theoretical physics and should still be taken somewhat seriously (like the rest of theoretical physics) but should also be taken with a HUGE grain of salt as it is not confirmed nor is it scientifically testable at the moment. If the multiverse theory was true, then it would explain why our universe appears to be so fine tuned without necessarily having to invoke the anthropic principle, which is why it should still be taken seriously. Anyone that tells you it is actually real though is either lying to themselves or a fool ofc
@@jem5231 spot the atheist layman that still believes science has all the answers
Science describes many things, there's no theory of everything yet though, so you putting all your faith into our current understanding of how the world works is really no different to a religious person putting all their faith into an ideology. Neither has all the answers.
No truth is known, we have observed the universe to the nth degree and yet do not understand what any of it is. We can harness electricity, know how to convert photons into the flow of electricity and back again, yet have no clue what electromagnetism really is. We can describe how things function, yet do not know how anything truly works. So until we have a theory of everything, that thoroughly describes how and why everything exists, putting all your faith on "but muh science" is no different in my eyes.
If a creator exists, science would still be valid, you'd be observing the exact same things. All science does is disprove religious tales like those in the Bible stating we were created in God's image. God would have started the universe with a bang, and from there all our current scientific observations would be exactly the same as if we just happened to come into existence.
How is a creator any more ludicrous than the big bang? Both dictate something comes from nothing, if there is no creator that doesn't make the universe any less ridiculous than if there is one. Fact is, I exist, I know I exist, I do not know why I exist, claiming to have a definite understanding of why I came to exist would be idiotic.
Not might, I feel it does.
i hope everyone knows that this stuff aint easy and they're explaining it in a way anybody can understand. lots of work was put into this knowledge
I love this video. What I love about the scientists (particularly Andre Linde) is the humour and humility with which they discuss their theories. A must-see video for anyone who is interested in cosmology.
Philip Gebhardt I thought cosmology was like make up n shit 😂😂😂
Razz Smith you’re thinking of cosmetology
@@razzsmith1580 You probably confused it with "Cosmopolitan" (the magazine).
On a similiar WSF Andrei was like ..... 'I conceived this idea while in the loo' .....lol
I got a feeling the moderator -otherwise a wonderful person- was trying to rush him politely. Andre Linde is not a native English speaker and on top of that he probably had the most difficult task among them all, for he was trying to explain why his explanation of the multiverse draws from some theories/ ideas/ hypotheses from two vastly different realms - String Theory and of course, Cosmology.
"The Universe", (whichever idea of it we subscribe to), is the nickname we have given to a categorically unknowable mystery. The realisation of this mystery which we call "reality" is entirely dependent on our particular scale, our senses, and our faculty of inquiry... meanwhile, everything we think we know about this consensual, agreed upon, "reality" is entirely constructed from descriptive language. This modern age is a construction of magic words; words of such great magicians as the likes of Sir Isaac Newton and Rene Descartes, wizards who unpacked their ideas into the general reality of everybody and created the foundation of what we considered to be 'true' for a long time...
From "God" to "Gravity" or from "Adam" to "The Atom", all of the ideas from the religious or scientific worldviews that we consider to be facts are actually just made out of words: metaphors; literary devices; reductions; approximations; models in the program of our "human condition[ing]".
It is very significant when these models are predictive.
@@lawlaw295 Indeed so.
One word to sum up that beautiful idea which I agree with entirely is “subjective”. As in just about every thought we have ever had is a nonsensical subjective idea stemming from the absurdness of needing to constantly put a “meaning” on things. Science and philosophy mean the same things if you look at it a certain way. Everything is a subjective perspective of individualism and it has been since the first known “intelligent” role model.
@@goose9631 Absolutely beautiful and brilliant and deep comment, Goose. All I can say is that I concur wholly with what you said.
Cocaine is a helluva drug!
Knowing that eventually our universe will probably eventually die out and all matter will cease to exist, the idea of a multiverse is more comforting and optimistic since it would mean that there will always be cosmic activity and potential life out there.
Hopefully we will find ways to move our population to other empty copies of Earth like planets via the wormholes we find that lead into other universes … but who knows
"I'm a theoretical physicist"
"oh, whats that mean" _
"I get paid to confuse the shit out of myself and everyone around me. However on the off chance I discover something miraculous it will probably be used to destroy civilization"
it seems to me that everyone in physics is over looking 1 very important factor regardless if we have one universe or a multiverse
lets see how if you can pick it
All it means is you like to play with numbers
Certainly not just One Universe.
It's just more Logical. It just makes more Sense.
@@slevinchannel7589 It Makes About As Much Sense As Why You Feel The Need To Capitalize The First Letter Of Nearly Every Word In Your Sentences. Certainly just One Universe.
It's just more Logical. It just makes more Sense.
Andre Linde is hillarious. Could listen to him for hours!
Interesting theories. We once thought we were the center of the universe. I wouldn't be shocked to find out that our universe isn't the center of reality itself.
I have been studying mathematics of the University pretty much come up with itself identity of itself to be that. It all comes back to the beginning point.
Well put
@@michaelgilbert8003 theoretical mathematics? Doing math resulting in any kind of output when using our current theories on the universes dynamic formations and structures would only result in a THEORETICAL number. And besides that this subject matter has stumbled every mathmatican including Einstein. Please tell me more how university has proved great attraction theory.
There is a universe of life living in each one of our bodies. Microscopic living beings of all sorts. When one of us dies, a universe dies with us.
To which comment were you replying. I have several very interesting things I have been exploring .
Stuff like this really rips my knitting. I remember as a child discovering that if I faced two mirrors at each other I could then see reflection upon reflection upon reflection seemingly forever.
And began thinking what if I could shrink myself down smaller and smaller as needed and follow the reflections further and further into the mirror. How small could it get? Imagine what that does to a 5 or 6 year old mind.
I mentioned the thought to a schoolteacher who I think considered it sort of weird that one so young was pondering this while all the others were more interested in playing with crayons. But the teacher did mention atoms and even smaller particles which simply messed me up further.
I discovered that atoms were orbited by particles even smaller than they were and began to think but isn't that exactly what the solar system looks like? Sun as an atom with planets etc. as electrons orbiting it and so on?
My 5 year old mind then thought does this mean that the sun and all solar system objects could be merely particles in some mind bogglingly large solid body? and that's even before later beginning to incorporate galaxies into the whole speculation.
Thoughts like that have been torturing me ever since and then the likes of these guys come along with all this multiverse stuff. All I want to think about that is please just shut up already. I'm still back here in my mirrors.
Very good your the only one so far that caught it great mind don't let anyone. Change the way you think the others are. Not on you frequency ???
You are not the only one that has thought all that. We are all destined to be plagued by these unanswerable questions
I think what i’m hearing in this discussion is the possibility that the origin of THE Big Bang is from another of multiple universes. Our universe was not the first of many universes. There was at least one universe already, that gave birth to the big bang that created our universe.
I think the Big Bang happened once and i think it caused 2 other universes at the same time and everything that is happening in our universe is happening in the other universes at the same time as well so basically it’s like 3 balloons tided together and all of the universes are expanding by the second
Our universe was created from Big Bang. Then, after some unknown time after expansion, it will change back to its current state. And as that happens a new universe will be born instantly. So basically our universe renews itself every 49 billion years.
Andrei Linde! I LOVE listening to your explanations! ❤️
Andre Linde has to be the most lovable cosmologist in existence.
He is awesome.
This existence, yes.
was searching for that comment the guy is gold
“Could your fish brain handle that”
No
I’d probably eat a pencil and walk into a jet turbine and die
Lol.. tell the truth bro
LOL! That's SO random! Hahaha
I needed a laugh. Thank You 🙏🏽
Right but not before you jammed a watch battery up my nose to correct my myopic vision that was waaay to late arriving into the unfurling course of ambient arrival from the ancient aliens and their pet Pleseosaurus in my 12 foot swimming pool!
Love how we get to share some insights of so many geniuses. What a privilege ,wow !
Bravo, Andre. You give me the simplest explanation on the existence of multiverse.
time stamp?
One day one farmer build a well in his farm, and by time he left the farm and migrated in a city. The abandoned well got some frogs by time. One day they had a meeting about what is outside this well. One frog said, our well was created by a bang and its hundreds other wells outside our well. Other said, nope, just one well is there. No one imagined anything but wells.
This was brilliant!
Cave theory!
Andre Linde is hilarious.
Everybody gangsta untill the real one walks in
no kiddin, I love him
Certainly not just One Universe.
It's just more Logical. It just makes more Sense.
@@slevinchannel7589 Jesus christ, have you commented that on every comment? 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ you know that's fucking weird right?
There are 12 universe... according to dragon ball z.
xd
ecks dee
impuredeath2 not the kind of scientist we would like to have in the future...
Why Aren't Atheists skeptical of all these unseen inaccessible universes??
Ballz said the queen, If I had 2, then I'd be king....and it would all be exactly different just like it was right now, tomorrow....WAKE UP! Admit you are asleep and only dreaming you were awake upon dozing....But seriously, all these theories, all this talk is like mental masturbation but you never climax....The only ones that profit are those that get PAID for jerking off in front of everyone ....they have to be embarrassed much like someone who's job is dressing up in a gorilla costume hopping around in the sun, sweating and holding some stupid sign hawking some failing business in some sleazy strip mall...but at least the smuck in the costume has anonymity.... unlike these posers.....AGGGHHHH!!!
Neal Turoch (No clue if I'm spelling that correctly) is speaking about theory that is still controversial and stating it like it's fact. Dark Energy and Dark Matter are barely considered theories and are still highly contested. While a particle called the Higs bozon was in fact discovered it is still unclear as to whether or not the field generated by this particle is responsible for the formation of matter or anything at all. The way the speaker is describing space is incredibly destructive and can lead to huge misconceptions that will add a bias to future discoveries and researchers down the road need to ensure they're not tainted by a bias when trying to unravel mysteries. If it's not 100% observable than at most it's a theory. In some cases it's fairly obvious that the theories are almost certainly accurate such as the theory of evolution, which despite what creationists claim, has been reproduced in a lab. On the subject of Dark Matter / Dark Energy and the Higs Field those are still highly contested theories without enough evidence to be accepted as mainstream thought. Dark Energy and Dark matter really look like a lazy idea to describe observations being made in the universe around us. When I personally look at the theory it's almost as bad as saying "Magic" is responsible. We have yet to find a single particle of dark matter and experiments in the deepest parts of our planet have been going on for years in an attempt to find this matter. As for dark energy it's so incredibly vague. All we know is the universe is expanding faster so someone came up with the hypothesis of dark energy as a way to get people looking for the source of the energy that is causing this phenomena but instead of people trying to find the source they simply began running around calling the non-observed energy Dark Energy. As for Dark Matter this theory came about becuase of our current understanding of gravity. Models of galaxies on computer simulations would begin flinging themselves apart into space. The only way to get the models to work the same way we see galaxies working in real life was to add a fuck ton of more matter to it than we actually observe within the galaxies due to our current formula for gravity. This is what stopped the galaxies in the computer modeling to stop flinging themselves apart. That is too easily argued away by simply saying our understanding of gravity isn't accurate which is a statement that's known to be true.
If you're a researcher you absolutely have to be clear when speaking that these are not absolutes and this guest speaker is doing the exact opposite. If people's picture of reality is incorrect that makes them insane. To give the impression that these are absolutes can cause others to have an inaccurate picture of reality. That's the purpose of propaganda, not science.
The question was answered right at the beginning with the example of evolution - we don't know how life started but once it did, life has exploded into the various forms we see today
well, that got a little tasty :) (brit speak for a little bit of friction, tension eg at 59min), when the panel started discussing universe versus multiverse theories
the disagreement was very interesting, engaging, and informative to listen to. and i enjoyed the different perspectives on the theories
i hope they compose more panels in the same vein
Well, somebody's going to get a Nobel prize, and somebody else is not.
""the universe is a gigantic big nothing"
Lays Chips is a model universe...
Is it because the bag is half empty or because it's not a good source or nutrients? I don't get it
YOU CAN'T EAT JUST ONE ???
I frequently decide to wait one extra nano-second to breathe, just so I can spawn another universe... makes total sense.
Certainly not just One Universe.
It's just more Logical. It just makes more Sense.
Slevin Channel
🐟 05. THE PHENOMENAL UNIVERSE:
The fact that the external, phenomenal universe (“prakṛti”, in Sanskrit) of names and forms (“nāmarūpa”, in Sanskrit/Pali) exists solely within personal consciousness (and by extension, Universal Consciousness), is superlatively logical. If this material world actually existed as a separate reality, then obviously, it would have limits, because the nature of matter is that it has a measurable, three-dimensional finitude. Therefore, if one were to travel to the edge of the universe, there would need to be something WITHOUT the boundary of the universe (some other ’’universe’’, which contains this universe). This contradicts the very concept of a universe (literally, “turned into one”).
The late, great Professor Dr. Alan Watts’ response to the question: “where is the universe located?”, was: “nowhere and everywhere”.
This phenomenal manifestation is composed of space, time, energy, and matter, the latter of which comprises eight elemental groups - the five GROSS elements (“mahābhūta”, in Sanskrit), which are perceivable by at least one of the five senses, and the three SUBTLE elements (“tanmātra” or “atisūkṣma mātra”, in Sanskrit), which are symptomatic of localized consciousness.
N. B. Dark matter is not included in this system, as cosmological science has yet to determine its structural composition.
The five gross material elements and three subtle material elements are (from most gross to most subtle):
SOLIDS (AKA earth - “bhūmiḥ” or “pṛthivī”, in Sanskrit) are made of densely-packed atoms and molecules of a steady shape at room temperature.
LIQUIDS (AKA water - “jala” or “āpaḥ”, in Sanskrit) are composed of moderately dense molecules (usually including at least some water) of no fixed shape.
GAS (AKA air - “vāyuḥ” or “marut”, in Sanskrit) consists of rarefied atomic particles of no fixed shape.
HEAT (AKA fire - “analaḥ” or “tejas”, in Sanskrit) is made of kinetic energy (which may or may not appear visibly as fire, or at least heat waves).
ETHER (AKA space - “ākāśa” or “khaṃ”, in Sanskrit) is a vacuum consisting of three-dimensional space (length, breadth, and width). However, recent investigation has confirmed that empty space is actually filled with virtual particles (matter and antimatter). Thus, the explanation for the material universe being created from “nothing” (anti-matter) is plausible, according to quantum field theory.
MIND (“manaḥ”, in Sanskrit) is composed of sensual perceptions, instinctual thoughts, abstract images (including memories and fantasies), and emotions. Not all animal species possess a mind, but function purely on base instincts, originating from their genetic code, via a rudimentary nervous system.
INTELLECT (“buddhiḥ”, in Sanskrit) consists of conceptual thoughts. Only the very higher species of animal life possess an intellectual capacity.
PSEUDO-EGO (“ahaṃkāraḥ”, in Sanskrit) is comprised of the “I” thought (in this case, the illusory, temporal self-identity). Only humans possess the self-awareness necessary to question their own existence. Read Chapter 10 for a full elucidation of egoity.
Each of the FIVE gross material elements corresponds to one of the senses of the body. E.g. In outer space, where there is a vacuum (ether), one can detect light with the eyes, yet space is not tactile and cannot be smelled or tasted, nor can sound waves travel via space. At the opposite extreme, solid matter can be seen with the eyes, felt with the sense of touch, tasted with the tongue, smelt with the nose, and heard with the ear (when the solid matter is physically vibrated).
Beyond these eight material elements is the TRUE self - which pervades the entire body, and indeed, which is the Universal Self (“ayam ātmā brahma”, in Sanskrit). That explains why we say: “This is my body” or “I possess a mind”. Who is the owner of the body and the mind? It is us, the anti-matter, the inextinguishable authentic self/Self (“ātmana/Paramātmana”, in Sanskrit). Ultimately speaking, the Universal Self alone is.
HOWEVER, all eight elements are in fact “made” of Consciousness, since, as demonstrated previously, naught but Consciousness exists. Consciousness is the ultimate reality (“prajñānam brahma”, in Sanskrit). Just as a wedding ring depends on gold for its very existence, so too does the phenomenal universe depend entirely on ”Beingness” or “Isness”, Consciousness, and Blissful Awareness.
Although The Absolute cannot be verbally-described, (otherwise, it would be an OBJECT), as a concession to materialists, Infinite Consciousness has said to exhibit three innate attributes, known as “sacchidānanda”, a compounded Sanskrit epithet, consisting of the three words “sat”, “cit” and “ānanda” - Eternal Being(ness), Existence, or Truth; Conscious Knowledge; and Perfect Peace (often translated as “bliss”. However, the term “bliss” connotes an ephemeral experience of euphoria, whereas “peace” is the absence of any form of temporal suffering).
Because Absolutely Nothing (“Brahman”, in Sanskrit) is Infinite Creative Potentiality, it actualizes as Absolutely Everything.
Attributeless Consciousness at Rest (in Sanskrit, “Nirguna Brahman”) manifests as this phenomenal universe (Consciousness in Action, or in Sanskrit, “Saguna Brahman”). In the verbiage of quantum physics, the enfolded implicate order ‘becomes’ the unfolded explicate order.
In REALITY there is no separation of anything at any time (assuming that Consciousness is a “thing”, and that time is an attribute of The Uncaused Absolute). That the total sum energy of the universe is zero, implies the non-existence of matter (i. e. no thing exists objectively).
The phenomenal manifestation is eternally cyclical, because ‘coming into existence’ implies ‘going out of existence’, just as ‘black’ implies the existence of ‘white’, or as ‘rich’ implies ‘poor’. Is it possible to have something without nothing? Obviously not, because the two go together, as interrelated opposites.
Similarly, despite what most believe, the outer-world is as much the Self as the inner-world. Where is the boundary of the human body? When we look at a person, we cannot see that person UNLESS we also see the background image. The two are inseparable, just as a flower and a bee cannot exist without the other. This fact alone is ample evidence that the universe is a holistic and wholistic system or entity.
You who are reading these words are that Totality of Existence, the Highest Universal Principle, the Essential Irreducible Self.
In common parlance, you are God (IF you only knew it!).
Most of the greatest sages in history have spoken about either or both these concepts (of the Absolute Truth being either Absolutely Everything or Absolute Nothingness), such as the concept of “nirvana” in Buddhism, or in Avatar Meher Baba's book “The Everything and the Nothing” (which is highly-recommended, particularly Chapters 51 to 56, which poetically describe the Ineffable One-without-a-second). Even an ordinary writer, American author Kurt Vonnegut, once penned: “Everything is nothing - with a twist”.
The Stanford Institute for Theoretical Physics professor, Doctor Leonard Susskind's so-called “minus-first law of physics” states that information is INDESTRUCTIBLE. This is akin to the law of conservation of energy in classical physics, and proves that neither physical or psychic energy is lost. Read subsequent chapters to learn more about how this law relates to the notion of reincarnation, as well as to miraculous phenomena such as savant syndrome.
The planet on which we are residing consists of animate/organic life, as well as inanimate/inorganic matter.
The six stages of ORGANIC life are:
1. conception/birth
2. growth/development
3. maintenance
4. reproduction
5. ageing/deterioration
6. death
British polymath Thomas Young's famous double-slit experiment suggests that matter exists purely as potentiality or as a "possibility" until it is observed by a conscious being. This phenomenon, known as the wave-particle duality, is often discussed in advanced spiritual discourses, as it gives credence to the primacy of Consciousness. There are other aspects of the universe (e.g. the various philosophical approaches to the nature of ontological time, the accelerated expanding universe, holographic universe principle, quantum superposition, wave function, and quantum entanglement), as well as the possibility of life on other planets, the crop circle phenomenon, and the presence of the Fibonacci sequence in nature, which are beyond the scope of this document, and which do not directly relate to the most important thing in life (to find the unending peace/happiness which we humans are ULTIMATELY seeking).
“Find out who you REALLY are so that when death comes…there is no-one to kill, for while you are identified with your role, with your name, with your ego, there is someone to kill. But when you are identified with the whole universe, death finds you already annihilated and there’s no-one to kill”.
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“Just as you depend on the universe, so too does the universe depend on YOU.
Everything depends on everything else.”
Professor Alan W. Watts,
British-American Philosopher.
“Who is the perceiver?
Universal Consciousness alone is the perceiver.
The body is merely the mechanism, through which perceiving takes place and from which the ego is inferred, as the perceiver of other objects.
Strictly speaking, there is neither the perceiver nor the perceived.
There is only perceiving, as the objective expression of the subjective functioning, of the one Universal Consciousness.”
Ramesh Balsekar,
Indian Spiritual Teacher.
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Measurable three-dimensional? Isn’t it four?
@@GinoNL, no. 🤔
What if it’s just one huge universe with multiple branches that is continuously growing and developing over time.
So you have the Mother Universe and then the little children universes branching out into the dark energized empty space.
What some think is multi universes would actually be correct. These universes grow to form different things and doesn’t have to mirror one another.
what i think is that the universe is spilt into 3 parts and the same thing in our universe is happening in the other universes and each of the universes can never end because they all expanded if that makes sense
That is a very interesting theory! What I love about these debates is that beautiful minds honed in to a specific theory and thus extensively studied and explored their thoughts!
I for one love the enamored yearning for answers that all of these people live by.
One theory I have is that time is only relevant to our tangible reality. So it's extremely difficult to understand higher dimensions or paradigms with our limited capacity bounded by time. And also I think it also applies to our science and biological boundaries.
Would love to hear your thoughts on this. If that's okay. 😊
The more we know, the less it matters that we know. Multiverses? Great. I'm off to the store to get some TP.
And there is one universe we know so little about. In fact we know more about the Universe than we know of the 3 pound wrinkly meatball between our ears. The brain is TRULY mysterious!
whats tp
@@asmrbully6980 Toilet paper.
Mood
I give you a quote from Sir Arthur Eddington:(close, anyway) "The Universe is not only stranger than you imagine it to be, it is stranger than you CAN imagine it to be." The effort of most scientists is to develop an understanding of the operating principles of the Universe such that humans can use that understanding to control the Universe insofar as that will be possible. Without an understanding of and control of the operations of the Universe we have to live with beliefs rather than being able to affect the Universe.
... exactamundo 👍
No Ads! Amazing!!!
LINDE IS FANTASTIC, great humor, Neil please more respect, he is BIG scientist, and you a common teacher ! please
I agree.....because they are discounting his hypothesis but yet cannot prove that it is absolutely invalid. To say to persue the research because its not predictive is so unlike the nature of a scientist
The Turok cyclic model is bizarre because it's essentially an extremely watered down version of the multiverse. He's describing a landscape of two braneworlds colliding and expands for about a trillion years and recollapses into a big crunch which initiates another big bang, ad infinitum. Personally, I'm a huge fan of the multiverse theory.
Amazing video.. I never thought scientists can be so entertaining and informative.. Keep up the Good work 👏🏾
Loved this conversation, the Russian physicist Andre is funny and informative.thanks to all the scientists that communicate these big topics freely to all who are interested.
This was a fascinating debate and I especially appreciated the competence and humour of the moderator.
It was a debate? I think they're all the same, materialists.
Mention quantum mind , then you'd see a debate.
Thats why so many scientists are coming out against where the money is being wasted on the human brain project.
The idiots running it are of the opinion that if you can't see it under a microscope it can't be mind.
Its just the same artificial intelligence crowd with a bunch of cash to blow.
The real question is how the Hell do we get all of them to smoke DMT
Lol, that is funny. It's probably that they use more DMT than us, that's produced in small amounts in your brain
Keith Koster lmao they harvest pineal glands from babies to obtain adrenochrome. Way crazier than DMT, and keeps celebrities looking young. 😂
Fuck DMT It killed 2 of my friends.
Razz Smith how?
@@razzsmith1580 pure DMT? MAOI? How did this happen?
Can we all agree that the moderator (for a non scientist) did a fabtastic job? It's got to be a very hard gig to be funny and engaging and fair and thoughtful.
I was thinking the same thing, but there had to be because if there was no referee so to speak it would have turned into a much different debate....
Can we all agree, that saying "Can we all agree" is one of the most stupidest comments ever.
The earth was believed to be flat until it was proved not. The string theory based multiverse model makes much more sense to me.
Interesting. That is something that I have told the masses many years ago and even recently. And more interesting is, it was before observing anyone else's theory.
everything is endless, whatever u think of is real. pretty simple really and beautiful to think of
That's not exactly true....
tell that to my eternal suffering
Great channel! I think that each universe is connected; I mean, I think that multiverse might be real, but not that every alternative exists, since everything that happens in one of the universes has to have an effect on all others, albeit the effect might be infinitesimally small. We can notice such phenomenon in our own world, and there's no example that I know of where the opposite's true. Most notably planets and stars, might to some extent seem like separate entities but gravity reaches across the entire universe, and there's no reason to think that the forces of our own universe don't effect others. And if the forces effect other universes, then the multiverse is a single universe, since the forces of our own can reach out to all other universes.
Very good also for every action there is a reaction ???
A containment theory has not even been at the very least...
...proposed yet.
...just saying...
@@briancarney3443 Maybe, but that's what's confusing about it
In a multiverse, the 2 clapping universes would be happening. Both could be right.
The Multiverse is possible...many folk today are living in alternate universes.....
This was amazing. Thanks to everyone involved.
Do you think there's a universe where they have the technology/ability to talk to/travel to other universes? 🤔
I think so because if multiversum exist everything that is conceivable can exist and in combination with time curvature at black holes and as yet unknown dimension portals are conceivable, the question is why that possibility would not exist?
I do
That explains UFOs
They are from another universe they come here out of curiosity
Analogy
A primitive tribe visited by anthropogists in helicopter
Neil is one of my favorite men in this lifetime. All these men are truly amazing.
For me he was #4 in terms of matching thoughts and ideologies
He seemed a douche
Dr. Alan Guth said, once they accounted for the addition of "dark energy" it made the prediction for inflation spot on within about a half of a percent. I'm just confused about the whole "dark energy" part. I thought it was called "dark energy" because we cannot explain it and don't understand why "it" occurs. If anyone could help make sense of his comment it would be appreciated. Love this kick ass panel though! They're all legends
We don’t know why it occurs but we can measure it.
Out Standing. I really left my depression behind after seeing this vid.
Shut up
@@indivestor no you
Same my anxiety stop after that first joke about maybe next year
in my gravitational field model. it leads to an odd possibility, that there are gravitational flux points that could result in slurred reality. not multiple universes, but polar moments of displaced wave function, that could displace entropy to a multi state of existence overlaying one another. imagine it like having multiple negatives of a single picture, with each having a different possibility of that photo, from fractions of that moment, the entropic outcomes, all then account into this. as we make choices, we take one or more of those slides out, but say another person chooses opposite to you. you stack these negatives, and then print the picture. all these negatives accumulate into one image, where the picture would from it to the other potential outcome, outline a true moment of time. so you can sit on a troff or crest of a gravitational field frequency, and exist in a completely seperate stack of these negatives of photos that make up your own reality. so one polar moment of entropy, could cause you to exist in a completely seperate hologram like outcome, than to another's. think of it like a mirage. you don't really know what is on the other side of that refraction of light. well this is like a refraction of gravity that displaces time between those potential moments, though they exist in the same space and time, they have a seperate probability to equal that exact truth of the moment itself.
sounds insane, but it could derive good and bad choices, to create a perception of hell vs heaven on earth. where people outputting these more positive gravitational troff choices or negative crest choices, fabricate their own realities.
What?
Our universe is only
Our observation of it.
...and nothing more than this.
That's just your limited, Aristotelian mind talking. Perhaps we are on the verge of another major upheaval in our understanding of reality.
My universe is always with me, living or dead ....
GREAT video, informative, funny, very well moderated, thank you and my compliments.
Jesus christ
I love all these Guys and the moderator and and this particular episode. ( I think I have seen this episode like 7 times just like Charles Bronson's: The Mechanic and I m not getting tired of it just like the The Mech.)
I've been listening to I've been listening to a lot of these physics lectures or whatever you want to call them conferences for the public and every time I hear Andre with that accent he's so freaking funny and so intelligent it's crazy and it's cool and I love this guy. He's mind is as infinite as his theories are or his beliefs and theories I should say LOL yep he's just an amazing guy with the sense of humor that is a sharp as a knife period every time I hear one of these conferences and he's in it I know it's going to be a fun one anyway the multi-world world the multi-universe theory I would love to believe it I don't know what to believe I've heard the pros and cons on both sides from different videos and lectures and conferences. And you know when I hear someone like Andre on the pro side of the multiverse Siri you know I have so much respect for this man and his intelligence that you know maybe I got to start thinking that you know there's a me in the next universe over that can see and wouldn't that be wonderful anyway this is one long sentence I'm sure the text to speech which I use due to my blindness has its own unique take on the English language so forgive me those errors actually they're not my errors they're the phones and the speech to text apps errors nonetheless I apologize I hope what I'm saying there's a lot of times when I'm trying to say and comes out as gibberish sometimes it comes out completely different and it's a whole another story LOL but that's about it so everyone stay safe put on your masks sincere yours, Bob the blind bedroom guitarist Bob the blind bedroom guitarist
“The multiverse is a concept we know frighteningly little about”
If the fish found out there was more than just their pond, they'd not think anything about it & then forget about it altogether 3 seconds later..
Well you see there is the DC multiverse and the Marvel multiverse and most recently there is the development of the Dragon Ball multiverse, exciting times indeed lol
35:28 so did we basically discover the map of the universe? since all the red (dense) parts just expanded away from each other but maintaining the same ratio. I wonder where we are on the map.
I can only imagine what the big picture that surrounds our universe looks like.
I'm a little late to visit this lecture series so I will confess that I have found great amusement and comfort in this panel's participants - for a collection of scholars whose careers have been so dependent on maths - they sure are loose with specifics regarding time. Don't hate on this observation- I am merely revealing in their enthusiasm with them. :)
"Could your fish brain handle that?"
You know, I get asked that question a lot
I get the impression that perspective is what makes up a individuals universe .
Duh.
In all speeches, When ever Andrea starts speaking, he will say is on flight or airport.
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🐟 05. THE PHENOMENAL UNIVERSE:
The fact that the external, phenomenal universe (“prakṛti”, in Sanskrit) of names and forms (“nāmarūpa”, in Sanskrit/Pali) exists solely within personal consciousness (and by extension, Universal Consciousness), is superlatively logical. If this material world actually existed as a separate reality, then obviously, it would have limits, because the nature of matter is that it has a measurable, three-dimensional finitude. Therefore, if one were to travel to the edge of the universe, there would need to be something WITHOUT the boundary of the universe (some other ’’universe’’, which contains this universe). This contradicts the very concept of a universe (literally, “turned into one”).
The late, great Professor Dr. Alan Watts’ response to the question: “where is the universe located?”, was: “nowhere and everywhere”.
This phenomenal manifestation is composed of space, time, energy, and matter, the latter of which comprises eight elemental groups - the five GROSS elements (“mahābhūta”, in Sanskrit), which are perceivable by at least one of the five senses, and the three SUBTLE elements (“tanmātra” or “atisūkṣma mātra”, in Sanskrit), which are symptomatic of localized consciousness.
N. B. Dark matter is not included in this system, as cosmological science has yet to determine its structural composition.
The five gross material elements and three subtle material elements are (from most gross to most subtle):
SOLIDS (AKA earth - “bhūmiḥ” or “pṛthivī”, in Sanskrit) are made of densely-packed atoms and molecules of a steady shape at room temperature.
LIQUIDS (AKA water - “jala” or “āpaḥ”, in Sanskrit) are composed of moderately dense molecules (usually including at least some water) of no fixed shape.
GAS (AKA air - “vāyuḥ” or “marut”, in Sanskrit) consists of rarefied atomic particles of no fixed shape.
HEAT (AKA fire - “analaḥ” or “tejas”, in Sanskrit) is made of kinetic energy (which may or may not appear visibly as fire, or at least heat waves).
ETHER (AKA space - “ākāśa” or “khaṃ”, in Sanskrit) is a vacuum consisting of three-dimensional space (length, breadth, and width). However, recent investigation has confirmed that empty space is actually filled with virtual particles (matter and antimatter). Thus, the explanation for the material universe being created from “nothing” (anti-matter) is plausible, according to quantum field theory.
MIND (“manaḥ”, in Sanskrit) is composed of sensual perceptions, instinctual thoughts, abstract images (including memories and fantasies), and emotions. Not all animal species possess a mind, but function purely on base instincts, originating from their genetic code, via a rudimentary nervous system.
INTELLECT (“buddhiḥ”, in Sanskrit) consists of conceptual thoughts. Only the very higher species of animal life possess an intellectual capacity.
PSEUDO-EGO (“ahaṃkāraḥ”, in Sanskrit) is comprised of the “I” thought (in this case, the illusory, temporal self-identity). Only humans possess the self-awareness necessary to question their own existence. Read Chapter 10 for a full elucidation of egoity.
Each of the FIVE gross material elements corresponds to one of the senses of the body. E.g. In outer space, where there is a vacuum (ether), one can detect light with the eyes, yet space is not tactile and cannot be smelled or tasted, nor can sound waves travel via space. At the opposite extreme, solid matter can be seen with the eyes, felt with the sense of touch, tasted with the tongue, smelt with the nose, and heard with the ear (when the solid matter is physically vibrated).
Beyond these eight material elements is the TRUE self - which pervades the entire body, and indeed, which is the Universal Self (“ayam ātmā brahma”, in Sanskrit). That explains why we say: “This is my body” or “I possess a mind”. Who is the owner of the body and the mind? It is us, the anti-matter, the inextinguishable authentic self/Self (“ātmana/Paramātmana”, in Sanskrit). Ultimately speaking, the Universal Self alone is.
HOWEVER, all eight elements are in fact “made” of Consciousness, since, as demonstrated previously, naught but Consciousness exists. Consciousness is the ultimate reality (“prajñānam brahma”, in Sanskrit). Just as a wedding ring depends on gold for its very existence, so too does the phenomenal universe depend entirely on ”Beingness” or “Isness”, Consciousness, and Blissful Awareness.
Although The Absolute cannot be verbally-described, (otherwise, it would be an OBJECT), as a concession to materialists, Infinite Consciousness has said to exhibit three innate attributes, known as “sacchidānanda”, a compounded Sanskrit epithet, consisting of the three words “sat”, “cit” and “ānanda” - Eternal Being(ness), Existence, or Truth; Conscious Knowledge; and Perfect Peace (often translated as “bliss”. However, the term “bliss” connotes an ephemeral experience of euphoria, whereas “peace” is the absence of any form of temporal suffering).
Because Absolutely Nothing (“Brahman”, in Sanskrit) is Infinite Creative Potentiality, it actualizes as Absolutely Everything.
Attributeless Consciousness at Rest (in Sanskrit, “Nirguna Brahman”) manifests as this phenomenal universe (Consciousness in Action, or in Sanskrit, “Saguna Brahman”). In the verbiage of quantum physics, the enfolded implicate order ‘becomes’ the unfolded explicate order.
In REALITY there is no separation of anything at any time (assuming that Consciousness is a “thing”, and that time is an attribute of The Uncaused Absolute). That the total sum energy of the universe is zero, implies the non-existence of matter (i. e. no thing exists objectively).
The phenomenal manifestation is eternally cyclical, because ‘coming into existence’ implies ‘going out of existence’, just as ‘black’ implies the existence of ‘white’, or as ‘rich’ implies ‘poor’. Is it possible to have something without nothing? Obviously not, because the two go together, as interrelated opposites.
Similarly, despite what most believe, the outer-world is as much the Self as the inner-world. Where is the boundary of the human body? When we look at a person, we cannot see that person UNLESS we also see the background image. The two are inseparable, just as a flower and a bee cannot exist without the other. This fact alone is ample evidence that the universe is a holistic and wholistic system or entity.
You who are reading these words are that Totality of Existence, the Highest Universal Principle, the Essential Irreducible Self.
In common parlance, you are God (IF you only knew it!).
Most of the greatest sages in history have spoken about either or both these concepts (of the Absolute Truth being either Absolutely Everything or Absolute Nothingness), such as the concept of “nirvana” in Buddhism, or in Avatar Meher Baba's book “The Everything and the Nothing” (which is highly-recommended, particularly Chapters 51 to 56, which poetically describe the Ineffable One-without-a-second). Even an ordinary writer, American author Kurt Vonnegut, once penned: “Everything is nothing - with a twist”.
The Stanford Institute for Theoretical Physics professor, Doctor Leonard Susskind's so-called “minus-first law of physics” states that information is INDESTRUCTIBLE. This is akin to the law of conservation of energy in classical physics, and proves that neither physical or psychic energy is lost. Read subsequent chapters to learn more about how this law relates to the notion of reincarnation, as well as to miraculous phenomena such as savant syndrome.
The planet on which we are residing consists of animate/organic life, as well as inanimate/inorganic matter.
The six stages of ORGANIC life are:
1. conception/birth
2. growth/development
3. maintenance
4. reproduction
5. ageing/deterioration
6. death
British polymath Thomas Young's famous double-slit experiment suggests that matter exists purely as potentiality or as a "possibility" until it is observed by a conscious being. This phenomenon, known as the wave-particle duality, is often discussed in advanced spiritual discourses, as it gives credence to the primacy of Consciousness. There are other aspects of the universe (e.g. the various philosophical approaches to the nature of ontological time, the accelerated expanding universe, holographic universe principle, quantum superposition, wave function, and quantum entanglement), as well as the possibility of life on other planets, the crop circle phenomenon, and the presence of the Fibonacci sequence in nature, which are beyond the scope of this document, and which do not directly relate to the most important thing in life (to find the unending peace/happiness which we humans are ULTIMATELY seeking).
“Find out who you REALLY are so that when death comes…there is no-one to kill, for while you are identified with your role, with your name, with your ego, there is someone to kill. But when you are identified with the whole universe, death finds you already annihilated and there’s no-one to kill”.
*************
“Just as you depend on the universe, so too does the universe depend on YOU.
Everything depends on everything else.”
Professor Alan W. Watts,
British-American Philosopher.
“Who is the perceiver?
Universal Consciousness alone is the perceiver.
The body is merely the mechanism, through which perceiving takes place and from which the ego is inferred, as the perceiver of other objects.
Strictly speaking, there is neither the perceiver nor the perceived.
There is only perceiving, as the objective expression of the subjective functioning, of the one Universal Consciousness.”
Ramesh Balsekar,
Indian Spiritual Teacher.
We have many Universes, they equal the dimensions, they are directly related. All the weirdness is the multiverse sharing it to Our Universe.Yes we are connected.
You should have them do another talk about this and see what they have come up with in the last decade 💛☀️
The Alan Guth moment has touched hearts :")
just realized I was born in the wrong universe
Markus Bopp so was I ;)
The real you is a billionaire
Same
😂
The real you is the you right now. Those persons who are like you is not you. If you clone yourself he will be another person. Free will and reasoning is a separate entity
love Neil Turok ,he is such a honnest scientist and one of the greatest minds and i love the way he crush all the arrogant scientist who are 100 % sure their theory about inflation and multiverse is right..like Alan Guth, and Andrei Linde
But the multiverse is real. It’s the most correct, logical, and reasonable about the scientific data.
he thinks 2 UNIversES colliding is not multiverse....... ???
Again, this should be played in every US junior high, science class. These guys are So interesting 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Alan Guth was the most interesting of them by far and the host just didn't let him talk much for whatever reason.
idk why he didn't I noticed that also if you still answer this bc this is a year old post do u remember how the host was towards him ? I felt like the dude was being rude to him and kinda making him sound stupid/making his theory sound not serious.
I can hardly add 2+2 and come up w/ 4. But these presentions interest me sooo much. In thinking about multi-universes I think about snowflakes. No two are the same, however together they are all the same...snow!
Actually, a FANTASTIC analogy! Bravo ROBERT DOYLE.
Just carry a cell phone with you . Most of them have a calculator.
Snowflakes are nazis so dont think about them.
Who has looked under a microscope at all the snowflakes that have fallen since the beginning of time to be able to make that statement with surety?
This was very poetic :)
This is an amazing subject ! I am preparing my theory for this which will be based on factual evidence
The most important issue is not mentioned at all in these discussions. If we use the issue of TIME: what happens before and after. SPACE: what is outside that area. Humans cannot perceive unlimited TIME & SPACE.
"Don't know" is the answer to what happened before. There is not an outside to space to inquire about.
If maths are just products of statistical perception, then it is at the least possible that we can perceive of principles and dynamics of cosmology that encompass unlimited time and space.
time its what we call to what we have created to measure change, flow or a cyclic event
With all the many entities i have meet in my life none had the answer ???
Instead of trying to figure out the unknown, maybe finding out an equation for making world peace and taking care our planet. We will never know what's truly in space but can fix problems we face on earth.
🐟 05. THE PHENOMENAL UNIVERSE:
The fact that the external, phenomenal universe (“prakṛti”, in Sanskrit) of names and forms (“nāmarūpa”, in Sanskrit/Pali) exists solely within personal consciousness (and by extension, Universal Consciousness), is superlatively logical. If this material world actually existed as a separate reality, then obviously, it would have limits, because the nature of matter is that it has a measurable, three-dimensional finitude. Therefore, if one were to travel to the edge of the universe, there would need to be something WITHOUT the boundary of the universe (some other ’’universe’’, which contains this universe). This contradicts the very concept of a universe (literally, “turned into one”).
The late, great Professor Dr. Alan Watts’ response to the question: “where is the universe located?”, was: “nowhere and everywhere”.
This phenomenal manifestation is composed of space, time, energy, and matter, the latter of which comprises eight elemental groups - the five GROSS elements (“mahābhūta”, in Sanskrit), which are perceivable by at least one of the five senses, and the three SUBTLE elements (“tanmātra” or “atisūkṣma mātra”, in Sanskrit), which are symptomatic of localized consciousness.
N. B. Dark matter is not included in this system, as cosmological science has yet to determine its structural composition.
The five gross material elements and three subtle material elements are (from most gross to most subtle):
SOLIDS (AKA earth - “bhūmiḥ” or “pṛthivī”, in Sanskrit) are made of densely-packed atoms and molecules of a steady shape at room temperature.
LIQUIDS (AKA water - “jala” or “āpaḥ”, in Sanskrit) are composed of moderately dense molecules (usually including at least some water) of no fixed shape.
GAS (AKA air - “vāyuḥ” or “marut”, in Sanskrit) consists of rarefied atomic particles of no fixed shape.
HEAT (AKA fire - “analaḥ” or “tejas”, in Sanskrit) is made of kinetic energy (which may or may not appear visibly as fire, or at least heat waves).
ETHER (AKA space - “ākāśa” or “khaṃ”, in Sanskrit) is a vacuum consisting of three-dimensional space (length, breadth, and width). However, recent investigation has confirmed that empty space is actually filled with virtual particles (matter and antimatter). Thus, the explanation for the material universe being created from “nothing” (anti-matter) is plausible, according to quantum field theory.
MIND (“manaḥ”, in Sanskrit) is composed of sensual perceptions, instinctual thoughts, abstract images (including memories and fantasies), and emotions. Not all animal species possess a mind, but function purely on base instincts, originating from their genetic code, via a rudimentary nervous system.
INTELLECT (“buddhiḥ”, in Sanskrit) consists of conceptual thoughts. Only the very higher species of animal life possess an intellectual capacity.
PSEUDO-EGO (“ahaṃkāraḥ”, in Sanskrit) is comprised of the “I” thought (in this case, the illusory, temporal self-identity). Only humans possess the self-awareness necessary to question their own existence. Read Chapter 10 for a full elucidation of egoity.
Each of the FIVE gross material elements corresponds to one of the senses of the body. E.g. In outer space, where there is a vacuum (ether), one can detect light with the eyes, yet space is not tactile and cannot be smelled or tasted, nor can sound waves travel via space. At the opposite extreme, solid matter can be seen with the eyes, felt with the sense of touch, tasted with the tongue, smelt with the nose, and heard with the ear (when the solid matter is physically vibrated).
Beyond these eight material elements is the TRUE self - which pervades the entire body, and indeed, which is the Universal Self (“ayam ātmā brahma”, in Sanskrit). That explains why we say: “This is my body” or “I possess a mind”. Who is the owner of the body and the mind? It is us, the anti-matter, the inextinguishable authentic self/Self (“ātmana/Paramātmana”, in Sanskrit). Ultimately speaking, the Universal Self alone is.
HOWEVER, all eight elements are in fact “made” of Consciousness, since, as demonstrated previously, naught but Consciousness exists. Consciousness is the ultimate reality (“prajñānam brahma”, in Sanskrit). Just as a wedding ring depends on gold for its very existence, so too does the phenomenal universe depend entirely on ”Beingness” or “Isness”, Consciousness, and Blissful Awareness.
Although The Absolute cannot be verbally-described, (otherwise, it would be an OBJECT), as a concession to materialists, Infinite Consciousness has said to exhibit three innate attributes, known as “sacchidānanda”, a compounded Sanskrit epithet, consisting of the three words “sat”, “cit” and “ānanda” - Eternal Being(ness), Existence, or Truth; Conscious Knowledge; and Perfect Peace (often translated as “bliss”. However, the term “bliss” connotes an ephemeral experience of euphoria, whereas “peace” is the absence of any form of temporal suffering).
Because Absolutely Nothing (“Brahman”, in Sanskrit) is Infinite Creative Potentiality, it actualizes as Absolutely Everything.
Attributeless Consciousness at Rest (in Sanskrit, “Nirguna Brahman”) manifests as this phenomenal universe (Consciousness in Action, or in Sanskrit, “Saguna Brahman”). In the verbiage of quantum physics, the enfolded implicate order ‘becomes’ the unfolded explicate order.
In REALITY there is no separation of anything at any time (assuming that Consciousness is a “thing”, and that time is an attribute of The Uncaused Absolute).
The phenomenal manifestation is eternally cyclical, because ‘coming into existence’ implies ‘going out of existence’, just as ‘black’ implies the existence of ‘white’, or as ‘rich’ implies ‘poor’. Is it possible to have something without nothing? Obviously not, because the two go together, as interrelated opposites.
Similarly, despite what most believe, the outer-world is as much the Self as the inner-world. Where is the boundary of the human body? When we look at a person, we cannot see that person UNLESS we also see the background image. The two are inseparable, just as a flower and a bee cannot exist without the other. This fact alone is ample evidence that the universe is a holistic and wholistic system or entity.
You who are reading these words are that Totality of Existence, the Highest Universal Principle, the Essential Irreducible Self.
In common parlance, you are God (IF you only knew it!).
Most of the greatest sages in history have spoken about either or both these concepts (of the Absolute Truth being either Absolutely Everything or Absolute Nothingness), such as the concept of “nirvana” in Buddhism, or in Avatar Meher Baba's book “The Everything and the Nothing” (which is highly-recommended, particularly Chapters 51 to 56, which poetically describe the Ineffable One-without-a-second). Even an ordinary writer, American author Kurt Vonnegut, once penned: “Everything is nothing - with a twist”.
The Stanford Institute for Theoretical Physics professor, Doctor Leonard Susskind's so-called “minus-first law of physics” states that information is INDESTRUCTIBLE. This is akin to the law of conservation of energy in classical physics, and proves that neither physical or psychic energy is lost. Read subsequent chapters to learn more about how this law relates to the notion of reincarnation, as well as to miraculous phenomena such as savant syndrome.
The planet on which we are residing consists of animate/organic life, as well as inanimate/inorganic matter.
The six stages of ORGANIC life are:
1. conception/birth
2. growth/development
3. maintenance
4. reproduction
5. ageing/deterioration
6. death
British polymath Thomas Young's famous double-slit experiment suggests that matter exists purely as potentiality or as a "possibility" until it is observed by a conscious being. This phenomenon, known as the wave-particle duality, is often discussed in advanced spiritual discourses, as it gives credence to the primacy of Consciousness. There are other aspects of the universe (e.g. the various philosophical approaches to the nature of ontological time, the accelerated expanding universe, holographic universe principle, quantum superposition, wave function, and quantum entanglement), as well as the possibility of life on other planets, the crop circle phenomenon, and the presence of the Fibonacci sequence in nature, which are beyond the scope of this document, and which do not directly relate to the most important thing in life (to find the unending peace/happiness which we humans are ULTIMATELY seeking).
“Find out who you REALLY are so that when death comes…there is no-one to kill, for while you are identified with your role, with your name, with your ego, there is someone to kill. But when you are identified with the whole universe, death finds you already annihilated and there’s no-one to kill”.
*************
“Just as you depend on the universe, so too does the universe depend on YOU.
Everything depends on everything else.”
Professor Alan W. Watts,
British-American Philosopher.
“Who is the perceiver?
Universal Consciousness alone is the perceiver.
The body is merely the mechanism, through which perceiving takes place and from which the ego is inferred, as the perceiver of other objects.
Strictly speaking, there is neither the perceiver nor the perceived.
There is only perceiving, as the objective expression of the subjective functioning, of the one Universal Consciousness.”
Ramesh Balsekar,
Indian Spiritual Teacher.
Remember when we thought the galaxies were "Island Universes"? What if all we know and see is just one spherical universe separated by simply more space from other similar spherical universes as far apart from one another as one star is separated from another.
When I imagine space as clumps of galaxies spanning the universe I imagine universes in a similar fashion across the sea of the multiverse.
9_Bucks
Slevin Channel
🐟 05. THE PHENOMENAL UNIVERSE:
The fact that the external, phenomenal universe (“prakṛti”, in Sanskrit) of names and forms (“nāmarūpa”, in Sanskrit/Pali) exists solely within personal consciousness (and by extension, Universal Consciousness), is superlatively logical. If this material world actually existed as a separate reality, then obviously, it would have limits, because the nature of matter is that it has a measurable, three-dimensional finitude. Therefore, if one were to travel to the edge of the universe, there would need to be something WITHOUT the boundary of the universe (some other ’’universe’’, which contains this universe). This contradicts the very concept of a universe (literally, “turned into one”).
The late, great Professor Dr. Alan Watts’ response to the question: “where is the universe located?”, was: “nowhere and everywhere”.
This phenomenal manifestation is composed of space, time, energy, and matter, the latter of which comprises eight elemental groups - the five GROSS elements (“mahābhūta”, in Sanskrit), which are perceivable by at least one of the five senses, and the three SUBTLE elements (“tanmātra” or “atisūkṣma mātra”, in Sanskrit), which are symptomatic of localized consciousness.
N. B. Dark matter is not included in this system, as cosmological science has yet to determine its structural composition.
The five gross material elements and three subtle material elements are (from most gross to most subtle):
SOLIDS (AKA earth - “bhūmiḥ” or “pṛthivī”, in Sanskrit) are made of densely-packed atoms and molecules of a steady shape at room temperature.
LIQUIDS (AKA water - “jala” or “āpaḥ”, in Sanskrit) are composed of moderately dense molecules (usually including at least some water) of no fixed shape.
GAS (AKA air - “vāyuḥ” or “marut”, in Sanskrit) consists of rarefied atomic particles of no fixed shape.
HEAT (AKA fire - “analaḥ” or “tejas”, in Sanskrit) is made of kinetic energy (which may or may not appear visibly as fire, or at least heat waves).
ETHER (AKA space - “ākāśa” or “khaṃ”, in Sanskrit) is a vacuum consisting of three-dimensional space (length, breadth, and width). However, recent investigation has confirmed that empty space is actually filled with virtual particles (matter and antimatter). Thus, the explanation for the material universe being created from “nothing” (anti-matter) is plausible, according to quantum field theory.
MIND (“manaḥ”, in Sanskrit) is composed of sensual perceptions, instinctual thoughts, abstract images (including memories and fantasies), and emotions. Not all animal species possess a mind, but function purely on base instincts, originating from their genetic code, via a rudimentary nervous system.
INTELLECT (“buddhiḥ”, in Sanskrit) consists of conceptual thoughts. Only the very higher species of animal life possess an intellectual capacity.
PSEUDO-EGO (“ahaṃkāraḥ”, in Sanskrit) is comprised of the “I” thought (in this case, the illusory, temporal self-identity). Only humans possess the self-awareness necessary to question their own existence. Read Chapter 10 for a full elucidation of egoity.
Each of the FIVE gross material elements corresponds to one of the senses of the body. E.g. In outer space, where there is a vacuum (ether), one can detect light with the eyes, yet space is not tactile and cannot be smelled or tasted, nor can sound waves travel via space. At the opposite extreme, solid matter can be seen with the eyes, felt with the sense of touch, tasted with the tongue, smelt with the nose, and heard with the ear (when the solid matter is physically vibrated).
Beyond these eight material elements is the TRUE self - which pervades the entire body, and indeed, which is the Universal Self (“ayam ātmā brahma”, in Sanskrit). That explains why we say: “This is my body” or “I possess a mind”. Who is the owner of the body and the mind? It is us, the anti-matter, the inextinguishable authentic self/Self (“ātmana/Paramātmana”, in Sanskrit). Ultimately speaking, the Universal Self alone is.
HOWEVER, all eight elements are in fact “made” of Consciousness, since, as demonstrated previously, naught but Consciousness exists. Consciousness is the ultimate reality (“prajñānam brahma”, in Sanskrit). Just as a wedding ring depends on gold for its very existence, so too does the phenomenal universe depend entirely on ”Beingness” or “Isness”, Consciousness, and Blissful Awareness.
Although The Absolute cannot be verbally-described, (otherwise, it would be an OBJECT), as a concession to materialists, Infinite Consciousness has said to exhibit three innate attributes, known as “sacchidānanda”, a compounded Sanskrit epithet, consisting of the three words “sat”, “cit” and “ānanda” - Eternal Being(ness), Existence, or Truth; Conscious Knowledge; and Perfect Peace (often translated as “bliss”. However, the term “bliss” connotes an ephemeral experience of euphoria, whereas “peace” is the absence of any form of temporal suffering).
Because Absolutely Nothing (“Brahman”, in Sanskrit) is Infinite Creative Potentiality, it actualizes as Absolutely Everything.
Attributeless Consciousness at Rest (in Sanskrit, “Nirguna Brahman”) manifests as this phenomenal universe (Consciousness in Action, or in Sanskrit, “Saguna Brahman”). In the verbiage of quantum physics, the enfolded implicate order ‘becomes’ the unfolded explicate order.
In REALITY there is no separation of anything at any time (assuming that Consciousness is a “thing”, and that time is an attribute of The Uncaused Absolute). That the total sum energy of the universe is zero, implies the non-existence of matter (i. e. no thing exists objectively).
The phenomenal manifestation is eternally cyclical, because ‘coming into existence’ implies ‘going out of existence’, just as ‘black’ implies the existence of ‘white’, or as ‘rich’ implies ‘poor’. Is it possible to have something without nothing? Obviously not, because the two go together, as interrelated opposites.
Similarly, despite what most believe, the outer-world is as much the Self as the inner-world. Where is the boundary of the human body? When we look at a person, we cannot see that person UNLESS we also see the background image. The two are inseparable, just as a flower and a bee cannot exist without the other. This fact alone is ample evidence that the universe is a holistic and wholistic system or entity.
You who are reading these words are that Totality of Existence, the Highest Universal Principle, the Essential Irreducible Self.
In common parlance, you are God (IF you only knew it!).
Most of the greatest sages in history have spoken about either or both these concepts (of the Absolute Truth being either Absolutely Everything or Absolute Nothingness), such as the concept of “nirvana” in Buddhism, or in Avatar Meher Baba's book “The Everything and the Nothing” (which is highly-recommended, particularly Chapters 51 to 56, which poetically describe the Ineffable One-without-a-second). Even an ordinary writer, American author Kurt Vonnegut, once penned: “Everything is nothing - with a twist”.
The Stanford Institute for Theoretical Physics professor, Doctor Leonard Susskind's so-called “minus-first law of physics” states that information is INDESTRUCTIBLE. This is akin to the law of conservation of energy in classical physics, and proves that neither physical or psychic energy is lost. Read subsequent chapters to learn more about how this law relates to the notion of reincarnation, as well as to miraculous phenomena such as savant syndrome.
The planet on which we are residing consists of animate/organic life, as well as inanimate/inorganic matter.
The six stages of ORGANIC life are:
1. conception/birth
2. growth/development
3. maintenance
4. reproduction
5. ageing/deterioration
6. death
British polymath Thomas Young's famous double-slit experiment suggests that matter exists purely as potentiality or as a "possibility" until it is observed by a conscious being. This phenomenon, known as the wave-particle duality, is often discussed in advanced spiritual discourses, as it gives credence to the primacy of Consciousness. There are other aspects of the universe (e.g. the various philosophical approaches to the nature of ontological time, the accelerated expanding universe, holographic universe principle, quantum superposition, wave function, and quantum entanglement), as well as the possibility of life on other planets, the crop circle phenomenon, and the presence of the Fibonacci sequence in nature, which are beyond the scope of this document, and which do not directly relate to the most important thing in life (to find the unending peace/happiness which we humans are ULTIMATELY seeking).
“Find out who you REALLY are so that when death comes…there is no-one to kill, for while you are identified with your role, with your name, with your ego, there is someone to kill. But when you are identified with the whole universe, death finds you already annihilated and there’s no-one to kill”.
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“Just as you depend on the universe, so too does the universe depend on YOU.
Everything depends on everything else.”
Professor Alan W. Watts,
British-American Philosopher.
“Who is the perceiver?
Universal Consciousness alone is the perceiver.
The body is merely the mechanism, through which perceiving takes place and from which the ego is inferred, as the perceiver of other objects.
Strictly speaking, there is neither the perceiver nor the perceived.
There is only perceiving, as the objective expression of the subjective functioning, of the one Universal Consciousness.”
Ramesh Balsekar,
Indian Spiritual Teacher.
Is there a supreme universe? What started the very first universe or multi verse? We probably will never know
That is what I want to know… the very very beginning before the beginning
Saying that we should ignore infinity is a nonsense. Sure everything could work for us with always finite amount of data. But if nature is infinite by essence, we should not try to ignore the truth. Or we will never be right. One day in our evolution we could have some need for non finite data. Building our knowledge on potentially wrong ideas is all that we should not do.
Excellent response - thanks.
Makes me think of how science & religion both focus on infinity and also bond with the universe in their own way. I agree that ignoring infinity is nonsense. Tho if that’s true, then there must be a fine line between the two. Mhm... or maybe science alone is the truth. I’d choose the one that can provide evidence any day. (: Out of curiosities, I studied many different religions & am confident that my opinion is not based on a bias one.
Religion seems man made. Like a message being edited/distorted throughout the pages of time. Something to keep people in check throughout life, but also something man-made to secure immortality after death. Thing is... religion can explain the super natural &
science cannot. That sh*t’s very real wether someone believes it or not..
Linda Barker
Sings: “It ain’t necessarily so...” 🎤
I love these WSF conversations
I flew to a parallel universe and the folks I met asked me:
"where did you come from?"
I pointed to my left and said,
"That universe over they'yerr".
Damm You're arms must be tired 😀
I love hearing great minds like this talk, but the more they try to elucidate the nature of our universe for me and the more I take it in, the less I seem to understand.
They have the same problem. Don't worry, multiverses arent real, only hypothetical, like 2d and fairies. No one has ever seen one or ever will. Not even a hint of one except in their mathematical musing.
@@eyeheisenberg2278 we will never see it because of our perspective. Which is also explained.
The end of Men in Black is quiet the same as the intro to this lecture 😯
Clearly host is on the side of no multiverse which kinda ruining the whole conversation...
what a great discussion!
Indeed, a great panel and discussion, but some statements I find inexplicably nonsensical, like, “human thought is finite, so the universe must be finite.” Also, Turok has stated many times previously that ‘there are no gravity waves, so we will never find them’, but LIGO has indeed found them, so basically the credibility of his ‘simplicity of everything’ theories are now lingering somewhere around Kelvin’s statement, “Man will never achieve lighter-than-air flight.” How does he respond now? Very interesting.
By the size of this one, anything that can happen will happen in this one.
Nonetheless, if this Universe is the inside of something, than the external part of it or the plane above is even bigger than this one.
When we look down we see a continuum state of existence/awareness throughout the microcosm.
Could we apply the same rule if there was a chance for us to look "upwards"? Is it too scary if the Universe is a being among others in his own dimension?
We can't look out but if we could we wouldn't be able to process the amount of information.
Pretty scary isn't it?
If we truly consider the Multiverse then we have to consider that it too must be part of another whole, a Universe in which all those Universes exist separately from each other but in the same "sea". We happen to be inside one of them :)
...Branes, are what you refer to....
I agree with this theory
It's highhhhly speculative. No evidence.
To start of with a ball of light makes me think these people havent a fuxing clue what yhey r saying. Its all a theory and not a fact. They soind like they are completely brainwashed to me.
They simplified it for your fish brain, lushin burl. The temperature was so high not even light could travel through it. I suspect you think evolution is fake, too, and maybe that the earth is flat.
I love Alan Guth. I feel like a cosmosologist after listening to him :o)
I believe our universe began from a bump or particle pimple on another universe . Once free it began to expand, and here we are. A type of particle pimple will one day form on our universe and cause another universe and so on .
@9:36 How would it be known that it was a out a millimeter across in length? I'm not sure how most of the theory is explainable but this one detail is very specific and I'm curious how it was decided
That’s what I was thinking too. Since no one (as far as we know) was there how do they know it was one millimeter in length? I believe they think one millimeter because of the math that supports the inflation theory, if I understood correctly.
What caused the Universe to expand in one direction similar to a cone and not in all directions? Shouldn’t the singularity or Big Bang be in the center of a sphere?
I think a big bang is one of many and is a when a giga black hole (100 times bigger than a super massive black hole that is created when to galaxies collide and their super massive black holes create one) is created. The mass is so concentrated at the singularity that a new universe is created with its own big bang in a new dimension and so the cycle continues like it has done for infinity.
I’ve seen somewhere that this theory is disproven or is highly unlikely but im not too sure.
Interestingly enough though, i had a very bizzare dream the other week.
That I was seeing in 3rd person or if I was in space looking at an infinite amount of universes in bubbles, and then two of the universes collided with each other which formed a super massive black hole. (I know sounds cliche) Which had so much energy and gravity that it collapsed in on itself and turned into just the singularity or the a very tiny point. Then the Big Bang happened in our universe.
When I woke up, I honestly was mind blown about my dream. I hope your theory or my dream are possible, if anyone could shed some light into this would be great 😊
Fantastic discussion thank you
Alan Guth keeps making me rethink how I supposedly understand cosmology.
i believe in the multiverse. very interesting video but it was a bit long and had to watch it in two parts but none of the less; a very good video and i realy believe in the multiverse.
A multiverse is still a Universe.
you are so easy to satisfy , i think you believe also santa claus exist because someone told you without any proof that he exist..
I also believe in Canta Slaus! Lol
“Finite works just fine.”
I guess this guy doesn’t trouble himself with Relativity.
Yes "Finite" is what we achieved and "Infinite" is what we will never achieve, this is only to prove that there is something beyond our imagination that we will never comprehend but accept as it is
I always assumed there were more universe's
I've been on the multiverse train since the 90's because of comics and sci-fi. I just liked the idea back then though, now it just sounds more plausible.
The football analogy was perfect
I'm doing ba program with political science and economics because I haven't score good in my 12 th I took science ....
But believe me I never left my curiosity in vain and I'm here 😃✨💕
I'm having one of my best times watching this scince my days in grad school/ chemistry. Well done, all