Wet leaves damage trains - BBC London
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- Опубликовано: 28 ноя 2016
- How many times have rail commuters heard the phrase 'leaves on the line'? The problem is also now affecting Tube commuters, with major disruption to the Piccadilly line. It’s due to a huge number of damaged wheels, caused in part by the leaves. Our Transport Correspondent Tom Edwards reports.
the normal time it takes to hammersmith to north ealing is 25 mins
and that old woman was complaining for spending 1 hour to get to hammersmtith to north ealing and back
which is only a 10 min delay
some people
jeez
It is a hazard to work in the commuter. no one is giving a shit when you do a good job, but everyone is angry if said commuter is not in full service
Cockneys for you. Get delayed by 30 seconds and it's like the world is coming to an end. Try living up where I live in the north west and see how you like a 2 carriage pacer at rush hour that's always late and only 1 service an hour.
In Japan everyone's is pissed with a 5 min delay
@@imnothere3107 *1 minute
@@Sean-D78 more like 30 seconds
Still better than the Tyne and Wear Metro. Leaves on the line often mean delays of up to half an hour, or a bus replacement service. And when the trains do run they are pushed too far and you can smell the motor burning. All for the sake of cleaning the tracks.
0.25 I can see the Greystoke pub in the background, I live there :-)
ian ford noice
0:24 bifiaskas and back again an hour
Maybe implement a slow speed order entering and leaving the outdoor stations
TfL should put new train for Bakerloo line and Picadilly line which is old train
Ikuto Nagasawa the Bakerloo a Piccadilly line will get the new tube for london in 2020s
Not acceptable we shouldn't have to wait so long!
Conor Rice why do we need to wait for another 4 years :( can't believe it
Ikuto Nagasawa Actually it's a least another 6 years.
What difference does it make if they're old or new trains?
A train every 15 minutes?! Oh the horror!
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I think Londoners have been a bit spoiled over the years ...
Lol you clearly haven't been on a tube train in rush hour... Sometimes there isn't even enough room to get on even with trains running every 1.5 - 2.5 mins. Having trains only every 15 minutes would be an absolute nightmare.
BE active Yeh, the Newcastle Metro runs trains every 10-15 minutes and they are barely ever on time
Well you clearly haven’t been there on rush hour.... there needs to be a train every 2 minutes, otherwise the platforms just over flood with people....
I dont think so. Time is money, Japan trains are always on time. This is from poor management,
Aoru
They’re also terribly overcrowded.
Your point?
The Piccadilly line needs new trains
They will in 2024
Enjoy the 1973 stock while it is still around.
Do TfL have any railhead cleaning/sandite trains to treat the open sections? Surely the '73 stock must have sanding equipment?
Nope the tube stock don't have sanding equipment (especially the older ones) from what I am aware of. But they do have some Rail adhension trains for both the deep level and sub-surface.
They do have plenty of Specialist Sandite Trains, but it seems that they underuse them badly.
It reminds on the Berlin S-Bahn. ^_^
5mnz7fg Berlin S Bahn is class
I am in London Underground train fan so this was actually making me sad😞😞😞😞
They always blame vandals where I live. If a train is late or cancelled, its always vandals. I have never heard the " leaves on the line" excuse, ever.
on my local train line, the peak frequency is every 25 minutes! those fussy londoners
people would be falling into the tracks if it was only every 25 mins on the tube, platforms in London fill up very quickly, and need trains every 2-3 mins at peak rush hour
It takes longer for this guy to speak a full sentence then it takes for another train to be repaired.
yo why the YT overlords suggesting this to me 4 years on?
So, some kind of scrapper or compressed air nozzle at the head end to simply remove the leaves before the wheels reach them?
There are some experiments with lasers going on, but they are not production ready afaik. Air nozzles would not be strong enough because wet leaves really like to stick to stuff, just try it yourself...
1973 Piccadilly line stock.
Also Bakerloo Line same stock
Older
@@PeteS_1994 ye
God, what are ya'll complaining about, 15 minutes per train in fantastic! Here in Ohio, we only have trains that run once Tuesday and Thursday.
And the roads are not good
I clearly missed something. When did it start that Americans used mass transportations instead of their big bulky pick up trucks?
Adrian Dalangin - Well, I visited London quite a few times as a tourist. From my perspective as I'm not using it every day, it was the best metro in Europe, because it was very easy to understand and you can move fast through the city. Paris for example, was quite a horror back in 1999. But when I visited the US, there was no public transportation at all. There is no other way to visit the next town as using your car. Public transportation by bus is rare and public transportation by train is nearly non existant. It seemed like the people used their cars even for switching from the living room into the bath room. That's why I love using this stereotype every time when I see a comment from the US, like Dylan Hale's one.. :-)
Public transport in the US cities is a disaster, if you're lucky there is a metro within the city, but never frequent suburban trains going out into the suburbs. Perth WA doesn't have a metro within the city centre, but we have suburban lines that stop at a few stations in the city and run every 5-10 minutes.
Yes, but does your city's train line have the absolutely massive passenger load that the Tube has? No, I didn't think so...
BBC London, I've heard a rumour that these wheels were made in China, not even joking, spoke to numerous drivers and depot staff and they say the wheels are poorly made.
True, everything in China is cheap but bad quality.
Funny how the keyboard and monitors to even the shitty phone/computer you're typing is made in China.....The irony China actually has a better rail and fast rail train system than the UK.....
It's also old trains with old braking systems
We need fully automatic trains on the line to avoid this happening again!
Tima the Artifical Intelligence Why, it seems to be a mechanical issue from this report.
I ride an automatic train every day to and from work. The way this damage is caused would happen ether way. The actual solution is to clean the tracks.
That would be worse, they'd just keep sliding without realizing it.
No, what they really need is Anti Lock brakes, ATO would not help here at all.
Daredevil This won’t avoid it
A train every 15 minutes? Oh no. I feel sorry for them cockneys. 4 trains an hour is poverty. Pray for London. Forget starving children, only 4 trains an hour in London! :'(
only themselves to blame for lack of investment in technology. Brake blocks, no ebs/abs. .are we still in Victorian times? I think we need to invest in some proper rail cleaning too. Never mind working with the drivers lol
cosgrove notts tube trains are made to last 30+ years.
The problem is more akin to trying to stop yourself from falling on a wet floor. When the leaves get onto the tracks and the trains run them over, it leaves a slippery, gooey gel residue. This condition is know, at least on North American railroads, as “Black Rail.” As the train tries to slow itself, the goo lowers the amount of friction the train is generating on the rails, causing the wheels to slide as the train’s forward momentum is not being overcome by the brakes like it should be, but the wheels are still moving as they should. This is what causes flat spots.
And this why they have ABS on trains....
morden on the northern line is fine .
Because it uses trains that are 20+ years newer than the Piccadilly line (Piccadilly line: 1975, Northern Line: 1998)
By the year 2020 nearly all of the lines will have air conditioning and walk through carriages
Justine Perry nope. The new deep level trains on the Bloo Pic and Central Lines will not be on there until 2024 in the earliest.
Now they just have to run, too...
Hi its me from 2020 and there r no new trains lol
They're coming in 2023-2024
@@robz7846 the central line trains are having a future refurbishment. And they will get replaced in 2033
not tfl folt
just hire some cleaners
We don't get these problems in Canada
Owner of Canada well done
that's because you barley have passenger rail at all in Canada lol
Good for you
15 minutes in peak hour? In Sydney, That's regular! REGULAR! Be more grateful, London!
Yes but the london underground gets so overcrowded that trains every 15 minutes would cause the station to close due to overcrowding. This happened last week at bank station.
TFL has excuses all the time. Too wet, too dry, too hot, too cold, too many leaves, too few leaves, too much wind, not enough wind, too much rain, snow... the list goes on. Is the TFL unfit to run their business? Honestly...other countries can do it, why not the UK ?
London does it pretty damn well. Not at all perfect, but still world-standard, especially considering the nature of how it's run and the cost.
Did you not listen to the full video or something? There are genuine reasons behind the things that go wrong with the service, and I know you haven't said this, but there's no such thing as a perfect service in any case. London Underground does a pretty darn good job at keeping the system moving.
I think its sabotage to the trains like how the tram tracks by sandilands tram stop were sabotaged so that a packed tram would not be able to break & the tram drive right off the tracks & collapse on its side. its a tradegic story & must be investigated further...