The only real problem I have had with the Labradar is with these Liberty Ammunition bullets. I looked into the Garmin and see it only records muzzle velocity and no additional velocities downrange. Is that correct?
@@sdkweber I looked through my app and do not see any down range velocities. That could be a nonstarter if that's important to you. I never have missed shots with the Garmin and it's small enough to attach to my tripod. Easy to use app. Worked on everything from 22LR to 458 SOCOM, suppressed, too.
@@noidea3177 The most important part is the muzzle velocity of course, but I have on occasion looked at downrange velocity to validate BC of bullets and compare drag variability. I have missed shots with the Labradar, but not many (except for the Liberty ammunition bullets that is) and yes it works with suppressors too. For the time being I I think I will continue using the Labradar but the Garmin looks like a nice future option. Thanks for noting your experience. That is very helpful.
@@guardianminifarm8005 Very cool indeed. Do tell about what you learned from 16 vs. 26" barrel .308. Did you really see a tremendous drop in velocity in the 16" rifle?
@@sdkweber I have recently tested about a dozen handloads all at near max with the best powders for the caliber using 150, 165/168 & 180 grain boat tail bullets(SST, NBT, MatchHP, BTSP). I have also tested a couple factory loads(Superformance & Win Power Point). The range has been 185fps to 330 fps. Most are landing 200-250fps difference.
@@guardianminifarm8005 That is interesting. I have read each inch of barrel gives you about 25 fps difference in velocity and your test pretty well confirms that. A 10" difference in barrel length giving you 200-250 fps difference in MV. Thanks for taking the time to post that and answer my question.
Enjoyed the video. A few suggestions: 1. Buy a Garmin Xero 2. If you’re going to use the LR buy a magnetic trigger.3. Also, it helps to set the lab radar at a slight angle towards the path of the bullet . This gives better readings because the bullet will spend more time in the radar.
Thanks. I never had such problems getting muzzle velocity before and I think your suggestions for the Labradar are good. I will look into the magnetic trigger for it. Any suggestions by the way?
Yes, probably a few better choices out there, many of which you've already shown us. These might do better from a 9mm carbine or something similar, but as you said, shot placement is key. Anyway, happy Independence Day good sir! A great video for a great day!
Great test and happy independence day! Gotta say I disagree though. I think this is one of the more effective rounds on the market today. For what it's worth, I read about a guy who used this round in a self defense shooting protecting himself and his girlfriend at the time. The perp was shot once in the chest and dropped where he stood. Only shooting I know of so nothing conclusive but worth mentioning. It's unfortunate you couldn't get reliable readings on the ammo. The velocity is usually well above advertised. Thanks again for the test and take care.
Thanks. Nothing wrong with disagreeing as there is no absolutely definitive answer to my tests or anyone else's tests. They are tests and not reality. In fact, even a bullet that works once in reality may be shown to fail in another instance. Here's the key: this fellow did it just right: A well placed shot... that is the key to making any bullet perform. Thanks for sharing that!
@@sdkweber well said! That's very nice to hear. Alot of guntubers test a round one time and draw conclusions from that. Can't wait for your next PAC-T test!
fiddy grain
never heard of such a thing
I would expect it will be useful if you absolutely want to avoid over-penetration
thanks for the video
Good for expansion, bad for penetration
What camera did you use for the slow motion?
The Samsung camera with a super slowmo app. :)
I hate that round there so bad 👎🏻
Why it’s a pretty good round 👍
@Slicky_Vic I had to many failures and these feel so bad in a ported barrel.
Carry federal or speer or hornady this ammo is weird feeling.
I’ve had both the LabRadar and the Garmin Xero. Man, what a difference the garmin is. It’s worth the money to replace the LR.
The only real problem I have had with the Labradar is with these Liberty Ammunition bullets. I looked into the Garmin and see it only records muzzle velocity and no additional velocities downrange. Is that correct?
@@sdkweber I looked through my app and do not see any down range velocities. That could be a nonstarter if that's important to you. I never have missed shots with the Garmin and it's small enough to attach to my tripod. Easy to use app. Worked on everything from 22LR to 458 SOCOM, suppressed, too.
@@noidea3177 The most important part is the muzzle velocity of course, but I have on occasion looked at downrange velocity to validate BC of bullets and compare drag variability. I have missed shots with the Labradar, but not many (except for the Liberty ammunition bullets that is) and yes it works with suppressors too. For the time being I I think I will continue using the Labradar but the Garmin looks like a nice future option. Thanks for noting your experience. That is very helpful.
Bless your heart. Videos can be difficult and they are quite a bit of time & work.
Thanks again for watching! And Happy Independence day to you and your family.
@@sdkweber Went the range with my son and his new 1911. I chronographed 308 reloads in 16" & 26" barrels.
@@guardianminifarm8005 Very cool indeed. Do tell about what you learned from 16 vs. 26" barrel .308. Did you really see a tremendous drop in velocity in the 16" rifle?
@@sdkweber I have recently tested about a dozen handloads all at near max with the best powders for the caliber using 150, 165/168 & 180 grain boat tail bullets(SST, NBT, MatchHP, BTSP). I have also tested a couple factory loads(Superformance & Win Power Point). The range has been 185fps to 330 fps. Most are landing 200-250fps difference.
@@guardianminifarm8005 That is interesting. I have read each inch of barrel gives you about 25 fps difference in velocity and your test pretty well confirms that. A 10" difference in barrel length giving you 200-250 fps difference in MV. Thanks for taking the time to post that and answer my question.
DRT is much better
Enjoyed the video. A few suggestions: 1. Buy a Garmin Xero 2. If you’re going to use the LR buy a magnetic trigger.3. Also, it helps to set the lab radar at a slight angle towards the path of the bullet . This gives better readings because the bullet will spend more time in the radar.
Thanks. I never had such problems getting muzzle velocity before and I think your suggestions for the Labradar are good. I will look into the magnetic trigger for it. Any suggestions by the way?
Yes, probably a few better choices out there, many of which you've already shown us. These might do better from a 9mm carbine or something similar, but as you said, shot placement is key. Anyway, happy Independence Day good sir! A great video for a great day!
Thanks Aaron. I hope you had a great Independence Day with family and fun.
Great test and happy independence day! Gotta say I disagree though. I think this is one of the more effective rounds on the market today. For what it's worth, I read about a guy who used this round in a self defense shooting protecting himself and his girlfriend at the time. The perp was shot once in the chest and dropped where he stood. Only shooting I know of so nothing conclusive but worth mentioning. It's unfortunate you couldn't get reliable readings on the ammo. The velocity is usually well above advertised. Thanks again for the test and take care.
Thanks. Nothing wrong with disagreeing as there is no absolutely definitive answer to my tests or anyone else's tests. They are tests and not reality. In fact, even a bullet that works once in reality may be shown to fail in another instance.
Here's the key: this fellow did it just right: A well placed shot... that is the key to making any bullet perform. Thanks for sharing that!
@@sdkweber well said! That's very nice to hear. Alot of guntubers test a round one time and draw conclusions from that. Can't wait for your next PAC-T test!
@@funwithballistics1016 Our next PAC-T comes out in about two weeks. We are putting out a precision rifle video next Thursday. Fun stuff.
@@sdkweber sounds great!