Zack a couple of things. Keep your eye on the shark bite fittings (check from time to time) as they don't have the best reputation long term. You will also have to secure the PEX tube to prevent it from moving or vibrating. I know it seems quite strong but the vibration and movement of the bus will increase the frequency of any rubbing a lot more than you think so the back and forth *will* damage the tube within a year or two depending on your mileage. Next, your tank mounting seems at best the bare minimum to me and a potentially dangerous point of failure. Your narrow little straps may be rated at 900 lbs brand new and you calculated your water weight at say 650 lbs but that is the static weight not a live weight. Live weight is when you start adding in inertia from driving and turning etc. and that can ramp up quickly. You also shouldn't just look at the loads under "normal" driving conditions IMO because you are in a vehicle so there is always the potential for an impact. If it were me and my beautiful wife lived in the bus I would at the very least use 2" straps with closer to 3,000 lb rating and I would replace the wood screws you are using on your cleat boards with bolts. I would also use 2 x 4's for the cleats not 2 x 2's. I am not being critical--I only mentioned these things because you strike me as genuinely wanting to do things the correct / safe way and that people are watching your video's and assuming they can do what you do and be fine.
Well done. Couple of tips... get a small piece of rubber 1/8" thick and mount your water pump on it. It will quiet it down considerably. Also, and I made this mistake a while back, you can get the shark bite fittings in plastic, they are half the price and just as durable. Probably a moot point at this time as it looks like your pretty much done with the potable water system. Looking forward to part 2.
Wow guys! First this is awesome that you got your residency. So happy for you....I finally found my little 7 window bus. And ripped out the seats. Super happy to finally have it. I’m just learning that hiccups are a part of this journey. Today we went to Home Depot to get some rustolem to paint the bus and couldn’t get it started. Had to find a mobile mechanic and turns out... We need a starter. He was able to get us going and we are heading to the shop. He’ll get the replacement and install tomorrow ❤️🙏❤️👋❤️
Did you need a couple one-way valves or backflow preventers? One to keep you from back feeding your pump and water tanks when you're on city water. There other to keep from squirting water out the city water connection when your on your pump. You also used a lot of 90 degree fittings. Is the PEX flexible enough to just make curves? The 90's cause a lot of pressure drops. Thanks for your videos!! I'm dreaming of having a skoolie someday.
Thanks, in advance for alleviating some of the initial worry about using pex for our plumbing needs. Still haven't even gotten our bus yet, but soon enough we hope to find the perfect bus at the perfect price. Been saving a playlist of useful build videos and a few of yours have landed there for future reference. Thanks for the thorough explanations and model numbers used on what you're using. Very confident that if we mimick enough of the great YT creators/bus builders with our build, we'll be able to save some time, money, and headaches. Much love to you all for these contributions and learning opportunities! ~Jeremy
Carry a backup pump. In fact, plumb another pump in your water line and use some electrical quick connectors so if your primary pump goes out, you can quickly and easily change to the spare pump. In my RV's, I had to connect a pressure reducer so the city water pressure would not blow the water pipes apart in the camper. Now that was a decade ago so things may have changed. You can vent that heater out the side of your bus with the right vent pipe to be safe.
You can vent those water heaters outside, which is something you should do so no CO comes into your living space... you're probably fine as long as your back door is open, but it's going to become an issue at some point. I'm betting that a local HVAC Heating and Air service technician could do that venting job for very little. You could do it too, it is going to require you to cut a hole through the ceiling (llike you did for your wood stove) and get the proper vent line and wind cap. Make sure you have a CO detector in your skoolie too!
Thank you for making these videos. planning on buying a bus next month and beginning the build and your insight has been more than helpful! Hope all is well!
I’m 19 years old. 20 in less than a month. On track to have our goal of $14000 saved for a Skoolie conversion by 21. 🥰 Hopefully out on the road before 22.
I had one of these ecotemps on my offroad trailer, It would work better if you did a hot and cold line with a mixer for the shower, they can scald you with just the hot water coming though.
Great video, I used those shark bite fittings when I was changing out my moms water heater. It was nice to just slip those on versus sweating copper fittings on.
I like your utube video on your skoolie buid but I noticed al lack of a pressure limiter on your incoming city water line. Sad experience has taught me to be sure to have one because we ran into a situation where we had incoming pressure over 70 PSI and our system couldn’t handle so we had a mess to clean up. I don’t know how much your system can handle ,but it could be a nice safety item for your system.
Informative video! Thanks for sharing. I am an over the road truck driver and considering doing a school bus conversion. Heck, I live in a tiny house with 18 wheels! 🤪
Hate to say it but that propane heater could kill you. It MUST be vented outside. Even with every window open, and the door, I would not use it like that. Either vent it to the roof, which is not difficult to do, or out the door with a extension. Also it is imperative that you put in smoke and carbon monoxide alarms in your bus. Please don't forget to do that. Couple of thoughts about your tanks. You might want to put some rubber down under them for protection. They will chaff. When your moving, EVERYTHING in that bus will be moving around. It will rub holes in stuff. The straps are ok, but imo insufficient, but you will find out that either way. I would get a can of underlayment from amazon and spray the bottom of the ujoint nuts to keep water out. Finally, the pex system you put in is good, but you wasted some space doing it like that. Oh one more thing, put a pressure regulator on your city water connection. Some city water pressures are very high. I realize your learning as you go, and the school of hard knocks (which I am a graduate of) will keep you busy, only trying to pass some of that hard one knowledge on. Hope to see you on the road!
What about check valve from what I seen on class a site you need a check valve in your city water line and another in your tank line after the pump or it can push water in to your pump and break it an when you’re tank/pump start pumping it could pump out your city water inlet
i would think rainwater harvesting would be a big thing ? also do you think PV panels could be mounted on boat Bimini type retractable frame? to increase roof deck floor space, and act as a roof deck sun shade?
Two thoughts... 1. Please, please, please vent your water heater through the side wall of your Skoolie or through the roof. I know you only plan to run it when the door is open, but it’s just not safe to have all those fumes exiting into your living area. 2. For the shower, you left out an important component...a mixing valve. Your shower at home is connected to both a cold and hot water line via a mixing valve. That’s what allows you to adjust the temperature of the water coming out of your hot water tank. You can approximate the same result by turning down the temperature of the hot water heater, but you’ll still get water at only one temp.
@@jackkilllington9190 Hopefully you vented it already, I'm going to seal a lower window and cut a hole above and make a manifold directing the heated air out the side.
If you have air brakes on the bus, that could be incorporated into your plumbing. A few extra parts and when the engine runs, you've got water pressure.
+ Nice overview of the pex and push to connect joints-elbows-T's which ever will be used. I first used pex about 2008? I was like: :-O AWESOME! No soldering. It was like magic. I've been fascinated ever since. Haha. It's pretty cool stuff. I did about 3 homes with it. I had copper in my home but decided on pex with the remodel. Much faster! Didn't look as pretty, however just as effective.
I like the way you lined up your plumbing... It's clean and organized... Just a question, is the 70 gallon fresh water tank enough for you? What if you do boondocking will that suffice? P.S. Of almost 20 Skoolie Channel that I have been watching so far Your BUS has the coolest outdoor paint design ;) Really hope that you finish the build. KEEP IT UP and GOB BLESS!!!
Ecotemp are good weather heater but they are only out door. Y need to vent it even if the garage door is open. Carbonite monoxide it won't como out and it can be a dangerous hazard . also sense is fire heater it still needs air to breed if u feel that room with carnonite monoxide more than air it won't work properly
one other thought about using mostly tri-core foam core ? like what is used in modern catamarans for the interior. who does conversions these days, id like to put together a you tube celebrity skoolie build 2020. would like it done right, and with lots of help
Quick question? From my research every RVer /Skoolie says you need food grade White hose for fresh water? Did you find info that garden hose was ok? Supposedly they leach chemicals into your water....
I would never use Sharkbite fittings in a camper. They aren't very reliable in a house that doesn't move. Putting them in a vehicle that is like a mobile earth quake. For the price of three fittings you could have bought all the brass or plastic fittings in your camper. Simple stainless cinch clamps are reliable and easy to install. Good to see you put your water tanks in the living area and not under the bus.
The only thing that I don't understand is why is hot water, the only tubing going to the shower? Is the heater temperature setting on warm??? Thanks for a very thorough video❣❣❣❣❣❣❣❣
I was wondering how you installed the water pump? I am looking into buying the Yeti 400 and was wondering if a water pump can be installed to it?? Thaannkkss alot for your help!! Been really unsure how to do my plumbing but now I feel confidant :)
Do you have a pressure regulator installed somewhere? That's excellent pressure! My travel trailer must have one attached with the city water hose. Excellent video!
I get that. Your bus is as long as mine. Based on your layout, the water tank which is under your bed in the bus, looks like it's sitting on top of the access point which is in the floor above the fuel tank. I'm trying to find out how you will be able to gain access to to the fuel tank if you've sealed it up. It's the only way to gain access to the fuel sensor without dropping the fuel tank.
Why waste your money on all those elbows? Bend the pex, they sell theses 90 degree clips that the pex hose clips into that forms the 90 angle. The whole point of using pex is the flexibility. When you use those 90’s it’s a hard turn causing resistance and loss of pressure
A tip for your Ecotemp, route the exhaust to the outside. The directions say not to use it inside because the average person doesn’t think about routing the exhaust away from the unit. I’d show you a pic of mine, but YT isn’t letting me add photos to my comments. I think it may be in my most recent video update, on passing, so check that out. Nice job on the PEX routing. What are you using to anchor the lines down, if any?
Do you have any check valves in the city line? I'm just wondering what will happen if we disconnect the "city" hose and turn on the water pump. And how do you plan to fill tanks from the city line?
The weight of your water stationary does not equal the force in pounds that water will be producing while sloshing back and forth at 40mph. I would recommend adding some side support to those tanks and getting some real ratchet straps not those cheapos
Pex was recommended to us since it is fairly easy to work with (cut) and also is capable of bending quite well. I’m a knucklehead and was able to get it working on the first try.
Hey Guys Just watched the plumbing video Wondering all I seen was a hot water line going to the shower in the video ?? Didn't see a cold water line or a mixer to control the hot & cold in the shower ? Just thought I would ask Richard (Milwaukee)
Thanks a lot for your videos! Wanted to help you in return and buy with the links in the description, but we are from Canada... so it doesn't work, we have to buy from amazon.ca...
Don’t use push fittings. If for no other reason than the cost. Get a crimper and use crimps and brass fittings. It’s nearly dummy proof and much cheaper than a million push fittings. Don’t use the plastic connectors in a bus either...use the brass. I don’t trust vibration over time and rigid plastic.
Zack a couple of things. Keep your eye on the shark bite fittings (check from time to time) as they don't have the best reputation long term. You will also have to secure the PEX tube to prevent it from moving or vibrating. I know it seems quite strong but the vibration and movement of the bus will increase the frequency of any rubbing a lot more than you think so the back and forth *will* damage the tube within a year or two depending on your mileage. Next, your tank mounting seems at best the bare minimum to me and a potentially dangerous point of failure. Your narrow little straps may be rated at 900 lbs brand new and you calculated your water weight at say 650 lbs but that is the static weight not a live weight. Live weight is when you start adding in inertia from driving and turning etc. and that can ramp up quickly. You also shouldn't just look at the loads under "normal" driving conditions IMO because you are in a vehicle so there is always the potential for an impact. If it were me and my beautiful wife lived in the bus I would at the very least use 2" straps with closer to 3,000 lb rating and I would replace the wood screws you are using on your cleat boards with bolts. I would also use 2 x 4's for the cleats not 2 x 2's.
I am not being critical--I only mentioned these things because you strike me as genuinely wanting to do things the correct / safe way and that people are watching your video's and assuming they can do what you do and be fine.
So far this is the only videi that makes any sense to me. Thank you.
Well done. Couple of tips... get a small piece of rubber 1/8" thick and mount your water pump on it. It will quiet it down considerably. Also, and I made this mistake a while back, you can get the shark bite fittings in plastic, they are half the price and just as durable. Probably a moot point at this time as it looks like your pretty much done with the potable water system. Looking forward to part 2.
Wow guys! First this is awesome that you got your residency. So happy for you....I finally found my little 7 window bus. And ripped out the seats. Super happy to finally have it. I’m just learning that hiccups are a part of this journey. Today we went to Home Depot to get some rustolem to paint the bus and couldn’t get it started. Had to find a mobile mechanic and turns out... We need a starter. He was able to get us going and we are heading to the shop. He’ll get the replacement and install tomorrow ❤️🙏❤️👋❤️
This is a beautiful simple video to understand skoolie plumbing! Thank you so much for sharing your journey. Cheers to the new year!
thanks great ... no woffle straight to the point
Did you need a couple one-way valves or backflow preventers? One to keep you from back feeding your pump and water tanks when you're on city water. There other to keep from squirting water out the city water connection when your on your pump.
You also used a lot of 90 degree fittings. Is the PEX flexible enough to just make curves? The 90's cause a lot of pressure drops.
Thanks for your videos!! I'm dreaming of having a skoolie someday.
Hey, I just wanted to thank you guys. My husband and I are wanting to build a Skoolie and ur videos are such a GREAT help. Thank you.
this was a really great video! we're going to do our plumbing this week so this is super helpful!
This is the first time I have caught your videos. You have a fantastic voice I am envious of!
Thanks, in advance for alleviating some of the initial worry about using pex for our plumbing needs. Still haven't even gotten our bus yet, but soon enough we hope to find the perfect bus at the perfect price. Been saving a playlist of useful build videos and a few of yours have landed there for future reference. Thanks for the thorough explanations and model numbers used on what you're using. Very confident that if we mimick enough of the great YT creators/bus builders with our build, we'll be able to save some time, money, and headaches. Much love to you all for these contributions and learning opportunities!
~Jeremy
Thank you for the very detailed run-though. We still have a lot to learn and getting closer to the plumbing stage. This is very helpful.
We ordered the water pump through your amazon link. Hope that helps throw some $$ your way. Thank you for the great videos. Talk to you soon.
Carry a backup pump. In fact, plumb another pump in your water line and use some electrical quick connectors so if your primary pump goes out, you can quickly and easily change to the spare pump. In my RV's, I had to connect a pressure reducer so the city water pressure would not blow the water pipes apart in the camper. Now that was a decade ago so things may have changed. You can vent that heater out the side of your bus with the right vent pipe to be safe.
You guys make some really great videos and I am enjoying riding along with you as you Git R Done!
You can vent those water heaters outside, which is something you should do so no CO comes into your living space... you're probably fine as long as your back door is open, but it's going to become an issue at some point. I'm betting that a local HVAC Heating and Air service technician could do that venting job for very little. You could do it too, it is going to require you to cut a hole through the ceiling (llike you did for your wood stove) and get the proper vent line and wind cap.
Make sure you have a CO detector in your skoolie too!
Thank you for making these videos. planning on buying a bus next month and beginning the build and your insight has been more than helpful! Hope all is well!
I’m 19 years old. 20 in less than a month. On track to have our goal of $14000 saved for a Skoolie conversion by 21. 🥰 Hopefully out on the road before 22.
Great video well explained thanks
I had one of these ecotemps on my offroad trailer, It would work better if you did a hot and cold line with a mixer for the shower, they can scald you with just the hot water coming though.
Great video, I used those shark bite fittings when I was changing out my moms water heater. It was nice to just slip those on versus sweating copper fittings on.
Thank you for the video 👍😊
That‘s a really good guidance for me for my bus conversion .
Best wishes from Germany 🇩🇪
Wolfgang
If you're careful you can use the open end of the right size wrench (or an adjustable wrench) in place of the Sharkbite removal tool.
Thank you so much for the lesson an the new product. We will be using this on our new build..awasome job!..
I like your utube video on your skoolie buid but I noticed al lack of a pressure limiter on your incoming city water line. Sad experience has taught me to be sure to have one because we ran into a situation where we had incoming pressure over 70 PSI and our system couldn’t handle so we had a mess to clean up. I don’t know how much your system can handle ,but it could be a nice safety item for your system.
Informative video! Thanks for sharing. I am an over the road truck driver and considering doing a school bus conversion. Heck, I live in a tiny house with 18 wheels! 🤪
Love ya vids! Always clean, clear and full of detail
I really appreciate your videos. Thank you this helps me a lot.
looks pretty sweet, man. well plumbed
Good job on your plumbing and the video
Hate to say it but that propane heater could kill you. It MUST be vented outside. Even with every window open, and the door, I would not use it like that. Either vent it to the roof, which is not difficult to do, or out the door with a extension. Also it is imperative that you put in smoke and carbon monoxide alarms in your bus. Please don't forget to do that.
Couple of thoughts about your tanks. You might want to put some rubber down under them for protection. They will chaff. When your moving, EVERYTHING in that bus will be moving around. It will rub holes in stuff. The straps are ok, but imo insufficient, but you will find out that either way. I would get a can of underlayment from amazon and spray the bottom of the ujoint nuts to keep water out. Finally, the pex system you put in is good, but you wasted some space doing it like that. Oh one more thing, put a pressure regulator on your city water connection. Some city water pressures are very high. I realize your learning as you go, and the school of hard knocks (which I am a graduate of) will keep you busy, only trying to pass some of that hard one knowledge on. Hope to see you on the road!
Wood stove is vented outside, so should any fuel heater.
yep. I knew of a teenager when i was in high school who died while sleeping from the same issue.
Great video! I’m learning so much!
Thanks for the video. You guys are doing a great job.
What about check valve from what I seen on class a site you need a check valve in your city water line and another in your tank line after the pump or it can push water in to your pump and break it an when you’re tank/pump start pumping it could pump out your city water inlet
good clean job but im mind blown with all the work in that bus you diddnt run a line from shower for hot to the kitchen sink
i would think rainwater harvesting would be a big thing ? also do you think PV panels could be mounted on boat Bimini type retractable frame? to increase roof deck floor space, and act as a roof deck sun shade?
Look to venting the Heater Outside for fumes. Have a circulation of fresh air to your garage area. CO2 monitor also.
Two thoughts...
1. Please, please, please vent your water heater through the side wall of your Skoolie or through the roof. I know you only plan to run it when the door is open, but it’s just not safe to have all those fumes exiting into your living area.
2. For the shower, you left out an important component...a mixing valve. Your shower at home is connected to both a cold and hot water line via a mixing valve. That’s what allows you to adjust the temperature of the water coming out of your hot water tank. You can approximate the same result by turning down the temperature of the hot water heater, but you’ll still get water at only one temp.
How do you mean vent the water heater I’m building a skoolie and I don’t wanna die from fumes to I cut a hole through somewhere or what
@@jackkilllington9190 Hopefully you vented it already, I'm going to seal a lower window and cut a hole above and make a manifold directing the heated air out the side.
If you have air brakes on the bus, that could be incorporated into your plumbing. A few extra parts and when the engine runs, you've got water pressure.
Tommy on This Old House uses this on houses they are remodeling.
Smart and well explained
Wow, this really demystified plumbing for me and made it much less scary., One question, why no hot water to the kitchen sink? Thanks so much.
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Nice overview of the pex and push to connect joints-elbows-T's which ever will be used. I first used pex about 2008? I was like:
:-O AWESOME! No soldering. It was like magic. I've been fascinated ever since. Haha. It's pretty cool stuff. I did about 3 homes with it. I had copper in my home but decided on pex with the remodel. Much faster! Didn't look as pretty, however just as effective.
I like the way you lined up your plumbing... It's clean and organized...
Just a question, is the 70 gallon fresh water tank enough for you? What if you do boondocking will that suffice?
P.S.
Of almost 20 Skoolie Channel that I have been watching so far
Your BUS has the coolest outdoor paint design ;)
Really hope that you finish the build. KEEP IT UP and GOB BLESS!!!
You can buy them with a filter on them also.
Really good video y'all, thanks take care and YHVH bless.
Ecotemp are good weather heater but they are only out door. Y need to vent it even if the garage door is open. Carbonite monoxide it won't como out and it can be a dangerous hazard . also sense is fire heater it still needs air to breed if u feel that room with carnonite monoxide more than air it won't work properly
Really nice job
Did you ever have any issues with sharkbite fittings? Any general tips for skoolie plumbing?
I was wondering if the top comes off the water heater and you can add a flu the same way you'd add a one to a log burner?
one other thought about using mostly tri-core foam core ? like what is used in modern catamarans for the interior.
who does conversions these days, id like to put together a you tube celebrity skoolie build 2020. would like it done right, and with lots of help
Do you have a check valve on the city water connection so that when you run the tank pump your not losing water out the city water connection?
Hope this question isn't too dumb...what stops the water from flowing out of the city inlet when the pump pumps? Thanks
Are you able to regulate the heater temp or will you need cold water to mix for an acceptable temp
Quick question? From my research every RVer /Skoolie says you need food grade White hose for fresh water? Did you find info that garden hose was ok? Supposedly they leach chemicals into your water....
Informative!
Doing my skoolie research on plumbing and noticed you're not using a accumulator. Is your pump built so it's not needed? If so what's it called?
I would never use Sharkbite fittings in a camper. They aren't very reliable in a house that doesn't move. Putting them in a vehicle that is like a mobile earth quake. For the price of three fittings you could have bought all the brass or plastic fittings in your camper. Simple stainless cinch clamps are reliable and easy to install. Good to see you put your water tanks in the living area and not under the bus.
The only thing that I don't understand is why is hot water, the only tubing going to the shower? Is the heater temperature setting on warm??? Thanks for a very thorough video❣❣❣❣❣❣❣❣
yes I was confused on this..shouldnt you also have a cold water line to shower with cold n hot knobs to shower head?
Do you have a link for the shower transfer valve?
I was wondering how you installed the water pump? I am looking into buying the Yeti 400 and was wondering if a water pump can be installed to it?? Thaannkkss alot for your help!! Been really unsure how to do my plumbing but now I feel confidant :)
Hi! We actually use the Yeti 400 to power our pump, so I can say from personal experience it can be done! :)
Do you have a pressure regulator installed somewhere? That's excellent pressure! My travel trailer must have one attached with the city water hose. Excellent video!
Rolling Vistas I can't wait! I am learning a great deal here.
Is the fresh water tank sitting on top of fuel tank access?
I get that. Your bus is as long as mine. Based on your layout, the water tank which is under your bed in the bus, looks like it's sitting on top of the access point which is in the floor above the fuel tank. I'm trying to find out how you will be able to gain access to to the fuel tank if you've sealed it up. It's the only way to gain access to the fuel sensor without dropping the fuel tank.
Why waste your money on all those elbows? Bend the pex, they sell theses 90 degree clips that the pex hose clips into that forms the 90 angle. The whole point of using pex is the flexibility. When you use those 90’s it’s a hard turn causing resistance and loss of pressure
A tip for your Ecotemp, route the exhaust to the outside. The directions say not to use it inside because the average person doesn’t think about routing the exhaust away from the unit. I’d show you a pic of mine, but YT isn’t letting me add photos to my comments. I think it may be in my most recent video update, on passing, so check that out. Nice job on the PEX routing. What are you using to anchor the lines down, if any?
Rolling Vistas, hmm, I didn’t think of putting foam on the lines. I’ll have to do that, too.
Do you have any check valves in the city line? I'm just wondering what will happen if we disconnect the "city" hose and turn on the water pump.
And how do you plan to fill tanks from the city line?
Now I saw check valves (small piece of tube with 2 fittings on it), thanks!
Are you getting a water pressure regulator?.
That is what Im using on my bus
The weight of your water stationary does not equal the force in pounds that water will be producing while sloshing back and forth at 40mph. I would recommend adding some side support to those tanks and getting some real ratchet straps not those cheapos
I had that exact same water heater. It never worked.
Are you not worried about something hitting that lever back there, and flooding your bus?
I've seen pex used for a couple of conversions I've been looking at. What was the motive behind using pex vs a more traditional plumbing setup?
Pex was recommended to us since it is fairly easy to work with (cut) and also is capable of bending quite well. I’m a knucklehead and was able to get it working on the first try.
@@Rolling_Vistas I just noticed there is another huge advantage; your connectors have sharks on them and let's face it, that's just freaking awesome
Screw clamps lol. Those are hose clamps but both names work
Hey Guys
Just watched the plumbing video
Wondering all I seen was a hot water line going to the shower in the video ??
Didn't see a cold water line or a mixer to control the hot & cold in the shower ?
Just thought I would ask
Richard (Milwaukee)
paint those bolts poking out the bottom of the bus. the'll be hard to remove if they rust.
Thanks a lot for your videos! Wanted to help you in return and buy with the links in the description, but we are from Canada... so it doesn't work, we have to buy from amazon.ca...
Don’t use push fittings. If for no other reason than the cost. Get a crimper and use crimps and brass fittings. It’s nearly dummy proof and much cheaper than a million push fittings. Don’t use the plastic connectors in a bus either...use the brass. I don’t trust vibration over time and rigid plastic.
👍🏻
Try Flair-it....
It just means propane use isn't recommended for indoor use...... plenty of people do it.
1st :)
Mic....sucks