Coming back to this video, I've since realised it's possible to put Female Morgan in an incest pairing too. Marry Chrom to Maribelle or Olivia, marry Male Avatar to Lucina, and this Female Morgan can marry Chrom's son. Yeah, that... can happen. Surprised they didn't catch either of those.
this might imply some interesting things at least in female Morgan's case at least if they stayed in the tactician line though. in male Morgan's case it is more a "hey he has the alm's blade!" though they should have white hair in the case of wallhart who gives a connection to alm and aversa givs shadowgift. at least for the official art
I did the Math. Multiplying all possible Assists/Flaws gives 56 different Robins. There are 24 different Fathers and 23 different Mothers. Giving 47 different parents. Meaning 1344 Male Morgan's and 1288 Female Morgan's. Giving a total of 2632 Morgan's.
One of my favorite Robin pairings was with Tiki. Yeah, vessel of the fell dragon got smitten with the voice of naga. Hilarious. Another was with Say’ri, i just really liked their interactions.
Over 2303. That is number of possible possible Morgans, gotten by multiplying the number of asset/flaw combinations (49) times the number of playable characters, sans Robin and Morgan (47). I say over because of the fact that all the different second gen characters can have different fathers (or mothers in Lucina's case) meaning each second gen character has many more associated Morgans than first gens do. This boosts the number to insanely higher values.
One easy way to find out what Class a Pre Promote was before Promotion is to look at their first 2 Skills. For example: Frederick started with Discipline and Outdoor Fighter, indicating he was a Cavalier in Tier 1.
Gotta love Morgan, the most broken character in the game. I did like the throwback to Mark in the Japanese version, but Morgan is definitely a better name for the English. Still gotta do one last playthrough before Fates comes out, after my current playthrough, where I have a Morgan that is descended from a certain blue haired golden sword wielding hero from the console games through SPOILERS (you know who I mean. The last spotpass character).
An easier way I’ve found to tell the base class of a pre promote is to look at their skills. Using Frederick as a example both of the skills he has at the start are skills from the cavalier line so with that you could tell that his base class is a cavalier
That works for most characters, but I've just discovered it doesn't work for two of them. One of which has been in the playthrough as of Morgan's Paralogue, but not recruited yet.
You can also just check the prepromote parents class skills to determine what class the started out as (Frederick's first two skills were discipline and outdoor fighter) with the exception of a certain spotpass character that has skills from mage, but doesn't have that class option.
I just realized that my favorite pairing for male Robin is Lucina, my favorite pairing for Chrom is Olivia and my favorite pairings for female Morgan is Owain or inigo. Agh... I never realized the issue until I watched this video and BK (now im hungry as well as frustrated at myself) pointed out the possibility in this video (Specifically the Morgan x Owain one, i figured out the Morgan x Inigo issue on my first attempt at a Chrom x Olivia Run.)
4:38 Wouldn't looking at their skills help figure out their base class? 12:58 Didn't know that one XD 20:03 Love what he did with that character's voice
Wesley Darnell 4:38 Some characters have class skills from base classes they don't even have. E.g. BIG SPOILER SPOTPASS CHARACTER has Mage class skills, despite not having Mage as an option. It's rare, but it happens. 12:58 Be glad you didn't... 20:03 I watched Danganrompa 2 in English JUST to hear that moment. It's annoying I can't say much due to spoilers, but I like that they went a different route than the accents they usually translate to. (Generally accents become either Southern or Brooklyn. This one was....different.)
BigKlingy You can find out almost any prepromote's base class by using a second seal on them. Their base class will appear as a reclass option, whereas the other class that can promote to their class might not. For example, with Anna, using a second seal on her will display thief as an option but not myrmidon. You don't even need to reclass them, you can just back out once you've seen their options. Of course this won't work on all prepromotes. Some of them have both classes that promote to their class as a reclass option, such as Frederick, who can be both a knight and cavalier.
I'm just looking through Awakening's characters to see who I couldn't guess the base class of And like. . . So far. . Frederick and two others I'm not saying just yet for the sake of where we are in the playthrough right now just kind of start out with the skills of their base class so. . it's not all that hard to figure out. (Scrolls down on the wiki) Oh. . Oh okay. . SO that doesn't always work, because (Spoiler) is a promoted class who's base class could be one of two other classes. . . *and she doesn't actually have access to the one she has skills from* SO that's confusing. Oh and then there's (Spoiler) who just doesn't have skills from either of his possible base classes. . But he does have access to both classes. I think I can get the idea for the second one but not the first one.
Weird thing is I actually had a Lucina bio planned but something happened and I lost everything I had prepared for it. I was going to go through all her possible mods for the different parents too. I really should've done one, but that's just how things went. I mostly did this because I wanted to explain how Morgan's default class worked, and how "special" classes interacted with their inheritance. (Like how they can't inherit Lord, Villager, Dancer or Conqueror, but can get Taguel or Manakete)
i'm not sure how to type this so sorry if this comes off as a little rude but do you like seeing what people have to say or you just like talking with your subs?
he's TeruTeru? good god thats so different! doesn't change the fact that I still despise TeruTeru honestly but I never knew that! Honestly I haven't played any of the Tales of series. I watched MaxofFewTrades play Tales of Symphonia, popular because of Lloyd Irvin (heyyy Dick Grayson) and that made me buy Symphonia, that sequel and Xilia and it's sequel but I haven't played any to completion yet. I kinda don't enjoy the fighting system in the game. I did enjoy the story though. I'm gonna have to get into it again. I have too many RPG games I need to actually finish
Not a lot of people like Teruteru, he tends to get very low in the popularity polls. His character is weird to me, that moment of sympathy he gets I find well-done, but how much of a perv he is the rest of the time kinda outweighs that. I've heard his free time events with Hajime are pretty bad too. The Tales fighting system, well, I got used to it pretty quickly, but I'm hardly combo-material at all. I watched an LP of Symphonia recently and I could probably never get into that game due to how far the mechanics have advanced since then. (No Free Run is kind of an issue, and the way Mystic Artes are done in Symphonia is REALLY DUMB)
Actually no, Morgan's base class should be the base class of theit Non-Avatar parent, unless that parent is in an uninheritable class. (Lord, Dancer or SPOILER CLASS)
*MASSIVE SPOILER AHEAD* Damn it, I love your videos but ya screwed me! ;__; you can’t make an entire series where you properly and respectfully leave out information with “because spoilers,” and then just say “due to spoilers” right before giving out the biggest friggin spoiler! I hadn’t finished the game, and I didn’t know Validar was Robin’s father. It’s not that you didn’t do it right, it’s that you introduced an actual spoiler in the same way that you omit spoilers. Ergo, I expected the video to continue without revealing actual spoilers. ;___; Sorry, love your series. This just really sucks now that I know this >_
I uploaded this ages ago, but I think my logic at the time was that you can only recruit Morgan after the point in the story where you find out Validar is Robin's father. Though people definitely have Morgan builds in mind long before that. Morgan's very existence is also technically a spoiler, so this video would be spoiling something either way. But still, sorry if you felt this way.
@@BigKlingy that makes sense. You’ve mentioned that you were doing this series along with a play through several times. I guess I was playing with fire (funny joke? No? Sorry). I just had already had the children thing spoiled for me long ago and assumed that, since Morgan is simply the avatar’s child, I would be safe. The existence of the children being spoiled wasn’t as big of a deal to me either. It was good to know since I only plan on one or two playthroughs before switching to a newer Fire Emblem game. I don’t have a lot of free time, so I wanted to explore the game as aggressively as possible without missing out on any of the fun. I honestly hate that I do this to myself. It really does ruin things for me. I’m playing on normal difficulty, I should just be chilling and messing around. Sorry for rambling. And sorry for being a nag. I was just upset at the time. Thanks again for the helpful series!
BigKlingy She's like a cross between Presea and Raine from Symphonia. Very serious, but caring. Stern, but gentle. Though my words can't really do it justice.
... I REALLY do not know whats wrong with cousin incest. Its legal nearly everywhere, only some us states, korea, china and some baltic states ban cousin marriges. (Yes its legal in austrailia) It actually almost means NOTHING in japan (untill recent years) but then again brother-sister ones are common subjects in manga/anime so make that what you will... Besides unless you chain-incest even sibling incest has similar rates of deficiencies as having children at over 40 so....
Cousin incest is less terrible than incest between siblings, but it still grosses out people a lot. I have not much problems with Cousins, because they are far enough from the family tree to make a relationship work and the likelihood of developing genetic diseases and disabilities is much lower, but still there though, but lower than children from siblings all the same.
I HATE MALE MORGAN. I am deeply sorry to every one who reads this but I had to say it as soon as I could. I just CAN NOT stand his voice actor, which upsets me because some of his other roles are pretty cool. Another thing: WHY IS THEIR CANNON HAIR COLOUR CHROM'S HAIR COLOUR AND NOT ROBIN'S CANNON HAIR COLOUR?! 12:10 weird... I read about this exact same thing earlier today! 12:20 where can I find it? No wait, actually let me guess... serenes forest?
***** Both Morgans' canon hair colours are black from what I can see. Defiately not Chrom's. 12:20 Nope, I just googled "Family tree generator" and used the first free one I found.
Coming back to this video, I've since realised it's possible to put Female Morgan in an incest pairing too. Marry Chrom to Maribelle or Olivia, marry Male Avatar to Lucina, and this Female Morgan can marry Chrom's son. Yeah, that... can happen. Surprised they didn't catch either of those.
this might imply some interesting things at least in female Morgan's case at least if they stayed in the tactician line though. in male Morgan's case it is more a "hey he has the alm's blade!" though they should have white hair in the case of wallhart who gives a connection to alm and aversa givs shadowgift. at least for the official art
Wouldn't marry Tiki-Morgan to one of Chrom's sons count too. Chrom's family is kind of related to Tiki if know whose blood they share.
I did the Math. Multiplying all possible Assists/Flaws gives 56 different Robins. There are 24 different Fathers and 23 different Mothers. Giving 47 different parents. Meaning 1344 Male Morgan's and 1288 Female Morgan's. Giving a total of 2632 Morgan's.
....... We are all doomed
@@TheSkittypink Only the Male Morgan's could be Gary Stu. We are not so doomed...
Wait, the Male Avatar could also be Gary Stu... We are still doomed.
One of my favorite Robin pairings was with Tiki. Yeah, vessel of the fell dragon got smitten with the voice of naga. Hilarious.
Another was with Say’ri, i just really liked their interactions.
Over 2303. That is number of possible possible Morgans, gotten by multiplying the number of asset/flaw combinations (49) times the number of playable characters, sans Robin and Morgan (47). I say over because of the fact that all the different second gen characters can have different fathers (or mothers in Lucina's case) meaning each second gen character has many more associated Morgans than first gens do. This boosts the number to insanely higher values.
One easy way to find out what Class a Pre Promote was before Promotion is to look at their first 2 Skills. For example: Frederick started with Discipline and Outdoor Fighter, indicating he was a Cavalier in Tier 1.
The Morgan is not only the most enigmatic characters, they are the cutest and mot precious of this game!
Gotta love Morgan, the most broken character in the game. I did like the throwback to Mark in the Japanese version, but Morgan is definitely a better name for the English.
Still gotta do one last playthrough before Fates comes out, after my current playthrough, where I have a Morgan that is descended from a certain blue haired golden sword wielding hero from the console games through SPOILERS (you know who I mean. The last spotpass character).
Fallen Vanguard I kinda wish Morgan got a special skill from that pairing, honestly.
An easier way I’ve found to tell the base class of a pre promote is to look at their skills. Using Frederick as a example both of the skills he has at the start are skills from the cavalier line so with that you could tell that his base class is a cavalier
That works for most characters, but I've just discovered it doesn't work for two of them. One of which has been in the playthrough as of Morgan's Paralogue, but not recruited yet.
You can also just check the prepromote parents class skills to determine what class the started out as (Frederick's first two skills were discipline and outdoor fighter) with the exception of a certain spotpass character that has skills from mage, but doesn't have that class option.
I just realized that my favorite pairing for male Robin is Lucina, my favorite pairing for Chrom is Olivia and my favorite pairings for female Morgan is Owain or inigo. Agh... I never realized the issue until I watched this video and BK (now im hungry as well as frustrated at myself) pointed out the possibility in this video (Specifically the Morgan x Owain one, i figured out the Morgan x Inigo issue on my first attempt at a Chrom x Olivia Run.)
Yeah there can be a lot of possible incest depending on who Chrom marries.
4:38 Wouldn't looking at their skills help figure out their base class?
12:58 Didn't know that one XD
20:03 Love what he did with that character's voice
Wesley Darnell
4:38 Some characters have class skills from base classes they don't even have. E.g. BIG SPOILER SPOTPASS CHARACTER has Mage class skills, despite not having Mage as an option. It's rare, but it happens.
12:58 Be glad you didn't...
20:03 I watched Danganrompa 2 in English JUST to hear that moment. It's annoying I can't say much due to spoilers, but I like that they went a different route than the accents they usually translate to. (Generally accents become either Southern or Brooklyn. This one was....different.)
BigKlingy You can find out almost any prepromote's base class by using a second seal on them. Their base class will appear as a reclass option, whereas the other class that can promote to their class might not. For example, with Anna, using a second seal on her will display thief as an option but not myrmidon. You don't even need to reclass them, you can just back out once you've seen their options.
Of course this won't work on all prepromotes. Some of them have both classes that promote to their class as a reclass option, such as Frederick, who can be both a knight and cavalier.
The gigantic spoiler gets me every time.
What is it is it the last spot pass chatacter
It's one of them.
@@TheSkittypink it’s a non ryoma lobster
interestingly male Morgan is wielding alm's blade while female Morgan has gotia
goetia
So that's what that sword is. Interesting.
I'm just looking through Awakening's characters to see who I couldn't guess the base class of
And like. . . So far. . Frederick and two others I'm not saying just yet for the sake of where we are in the playthrough right now just kind of start out with the skills of their base class so. . it's not all that hard to figure out.
(Scrolls down on the wiki)
Oh. . Oh okay. . SO that doesn't always work, because (Spoiler) is a promoted class who's base class could be one of two other classes. . . *and she doesn't actually have access to the one she has skills from*
SO that's confusing.
Oh and then there's (Spoiler) who just doesn't have skills from either of his possible base classes. . But he does have access to both classes.
I think I can get the idea for the second one but not the first one.
Wincest.
(Im of course kidding)
Also no, Tear Grants isnt really anything like F Morgan :p
What do you call Shulk when he has Multiple Personality Disorder?
...Shulk Minazuki!
and CUE FACEPALM
Just a question. Why did you make a bio on the most customizable child in the game but not on the one child your required to get(lucina)?
Weird thing is I actually had a Lucina bio planned but something happened and I lost everything I had prepared for it. I was going to go through all her possible mods for the different parents too.
I really should've done one, but that's just how things went.
I mostly did this because I wanted to explain how Morgan's default class worked, and how "special" classes interacted with their inheritance. (Like how they can't inherit Lord, Villager, Dancer or Conqueror, but can get Taguel or Manakete)
Time to be the conquer. Hint hint
Incest is disgusting and thanks for pointing this out, why I didn't skip ahead is because I was interested, I made a mistake
I recently found out it's possible to make even more of these pairings. Ugh.
why you are commenting on videos that are so old xD but yea its gross. Ugh is right
These aren't anywhere NEAR that old. I comment on my 8 year-old videos if someone comments.
i'm not sure how to type this so sorry if this comes off as a little rude but do you like seeing what people have to say or you just like talking with your subs?
I like talking with subs. It's fun to engage with people like this. Plus, I don't socialize much irl so this is the best I have most of the time.
he's TeruTeru? good god thats so different! doesn't change the fact that I still despise TeruTeru honestly but I never knew that! Honestly I haven't played any of the Tales of series. I watched MaxofFewTrades play Tales of Symphonia, popular because of Lloyd Irvin (heyyy Dick Grayson) and that made me buy Symphonia, that sequel and Xilia and it's sequel but I haven't played any to completion yet. I kinda don't enjoy the fighting system in the game. I did enjoy the story though. I'm gonna have to get into it again. I have too many RPG games I need to actually finish
Not a lot of people like Teruteru, he tends to get very low in the popularity polls. His character is weird to me, that moment of sympathy he gets I find well-done, but how much of a perv he is the rest of the time kinda outweighs that. I've heard his free time events with Hajime are pretty bad too.
The Tales fighting system, well, I got used to it pretty quickly, but I'm hardly combo-material at all. I watched an LP of Symphonia recently and I could probably never get into that game due to how far the mechanics have advanced since then. (No Free Run is kind of an issue, and the way Mystic Artes are done in Symphonia is REALLY DUMB)
Honestly, I wish Intelligent System would let you choose what gender your child is
I married Lon'qu, so Morgan should've been a Myrmidon, right? But he was a Tactician? Did I break the game somehow?
No Morgan's class is the base class of the avatar
Actually no, Morgan's base class should be the base class of theit Non-Avatar parent, unless that parent is in an uninheritable class. (Lord, Dancer or SPOILER CLASS)
Yeah, I married Panne next and she was a Taguel, so I guess it just glitched the first time?
HI!
Skyla Gaming This video is unlisted at the moment, how did you get here??!!??!!
BigKlingy
Lol.
Also can you add playlists of these? Going back later to see these is a pain on mobile...
I'm probably going to add a playlist eventually.
I got here because the video that linked to it had a description before it was processed!
Interesting.
*MASSIVE SPOILER AHEAD* Damn it, I love your videos but ya screwed me! ;__; you can’t make an entire series where you properly and respectfully leave out information with “because spoilers,” and then just say “due to spoilers” right before giving out the biggest friggin spoiler! I hadn’t finished the game, and I didn’t know Validar was Robin’s father. It’s not that you didn’t do it right, it’s that you introduced an actual spoiler in the same way that you omit spoilers. Ergo, I expected the video to continue without revealing actual spoilers. ;___;
Sorry, love your series. This just really sucks now that I know this >_
I uploaded this ages ago, but I think my logic at the time was that you can only recruit Morgan after the point in the story where you find out Validar is Robin's father. Though people definitely have Morgan builds in mind long before that.
Morgan's very existence is also technically a spoiler, so this video would be spoiling something either way. But still, sorry if you felt this way.
@@BigKlingy that makes sense. You’ve mentioned that you were doing this series along with a play through several times. I guess I was playing with fire (funny joke? No? Sorry). I just had already had the children thing spoiled for me long ago and assumed that, since Morgan is simply the avatar’s child, I would be safe.
The existence of the children being spoiled wasn’t as big of a deal to me either. It was good to know since I only plan on one or two playthroughs before switching to a newer Fire Emblem game. I don’t have a lot of free time, so I wanted to explore the game as aggressively as possible without missing out on any of the fun. I honestly hate that I do this to myself. It really does ruin things for me. I’m playing on normal difficulty, I should just be chilling and messing around.
Sorry for rambling. And sorry for being a nag. I was just upset at the time. Thanks again for the helpful series!
well good thing I don't pair olivia with chrom...
Morgan OP plus nerf
Broken unit on drugs
Incest is not wincest
FE 4 is worse but if you want a song about insecse check one of rebeltaxi aka about sisters
Tear Grants is NOTHING like Female Morgan. I seriously did a double take when I heard the voice actor was the same.
thrasher698 What's Tear like? The only Tales games I've played are Graces and Xillia 1 and 2.
BigKlingy She's like a cross between Presea and Raine from Symphonia. Very serious, but caring. Stern, but gentle. Though my words can't really do it justice.
+thrasher698 but the best healer EVER SHE SAVED MY LIFE ON A DAILY BASIS
THE most broken character in the game
is anna 2nd gen
No, she's what I call "Gen 1.5". First Gen, but can only marry the Avatar and can't have children other than Morgan.
Ok thanks
...
I REALLY do not know whats wrong with cousin incest. Its legal nearly everywhere, only some us states, korea, china and some baltic states ban cousin marriges. (Yes its legal in austrailia) It actually almost means NOTHING in japan (untill recent years) but then again brother-sister ones are common subjects in manga/anime so make that what you will...
Besides unless you chain-incest even sibling incest has similar rates of deficiencies as having children at over 40 so....
Cousin incest is less terrible than incest between siblings, but it still grosses out people a lot.
I have not much problems with Cousins, because they are far enough from the family tree to make a relationship work and the likelihood of developing genetic diseases and disabilities is much lower, but still there though, but lower than children from siblings all the same.
I HATE MALE MORGAN. I am deeply sorry to every one who reads this but I had to say it as soon as I could. I just CAN NOT stand his voice actor, which upsets me because some of his other roles are pretty cool. Another thing: WHY IS THEIR CANNON HAIR COLOUR CHROM'S HAIR COLOUR AND NOT ROBIN'S CANNON HAIR COLOUR?!
12:10 weird... I read about this exact same thing earlier today!
12:20 where can I find it? No wait, actually let me guess... serenes forest?
***** Both Morgans' canon hair colours are black from what I can see. Defiately not Chrom's.
12:20 Nope, I just googled "Family tree generator" and used the first free one I found.
+BigKlingy its more of a harshly dark blue, if priams morgans father it will be that shade
+Lord Dio! Morgans hair color is GIGANTIC SPOILER jk they don't have one
No way! Female Morgan is an insensitive jerk!
Hey his Voice is SIGNIFICANTLY much better than the German voice actor from Ares in Records of Ragnarok.