@@bigdata5732 I disagree, liquid cooling isn’t nearly as good as you think it is. Air coolers, especially Noctua coolers; are fantastic. Their performance can go toe to toe with liquid cooling easily; gives you more airflow (water cooling will only give you 2-3 fans on a radiator and none on your CPU, vs just mounting 3 fans and having 2 fans on your CPU cooler,) is leagues easier to install (installing my AIO was a nightmare..) and if an air cooler breaks down, it’s very straightforward and easy to diagnose. If an AIO breaks.. well you can kiss your system goodbye lol. Take it from me, don’t buy into the liquid cooling hype (unless you’re going for pure aesthetics, then maybe buy into it lol)
@@bloodsausage6635 Well, I personally didnt run into any problems. The case I use already has 4 fans, so liquid was kind of an extra. The store I bought the parts from gave the pc to me already finished, so I didnt have to go through the trouble. I would say liquid cooling does cool it a bit more than air cooling, but yeah its risky and maybe not good for beginners. And only if noctua fans didnt look so awkward with a casual black rig.
I'm currently in the water cooling category, whenever I get around to building another PC though I definitely plan to air cool it. Especially when it's done right air cooled builds can look awesome.
Price to performance ratio is all I care about air coolers are cheaper than liquid and if you factor the lifespan of liquid coolers air coolers is an easy win
Also if you get a LOW PROFILE air cooler (see styles like wraith prism for amd) then the argument of less space blah blah blah is gone out the window. Also, if you're a BRAND NEW BUILDER ON A BUDGET the the stock cooler will work JUST FINE! Also it's been proven by different YT videos that the only thing that rises with an AIO..... Is the price.
All depends on what you will be doing with that computer. If just gaming and the cpu is something like an i5 intel or ryzen 5, air cooling should be fine. If you will be doing a lot of rendering or other cpu intensive tasks, go with liquid cooling.
Depends on what you define as water cooling... If you build your own piping system with a tank a pumping system, then that's true water cooling, but what is where the time wasting part comes. Aio water cooling is nice, but if you are getting a water cooler and already wasting time, you might as well waste a little more time and get the real thing
Having working in pc repair for a few years now I can honestly say I will never put an AIO in my system. Seen over a dozen fried CPU's because of AIO failures. Too many manufacturers using dissimilar metals in their systems.
@@513nattiboykris Not exactly, there's two types of water coolers. AIO, the ones that are pre-built/assembled and just need to be mounted and plugged in, and then there's the Custom Loop ones where experienced/enthusiastic builders can let their imagination run wild on that as you build your own loops through the entire system.
Thi is what you should always use:just get a aircooler for 99% of time never buy an aio! They dont offer much better performence for the extra cost Liguid cooler: if you need / eant the extra cooling make a custom loop its a lot more expensive but much better(aio is way more inferior to custom water cooling)
Liquid and aios are crap my 2 year aio is now dead with no water or very little in it and my cpu hits 100 degrees in stres or gaming my pump and fans are working but even though all of that works my cpu is struggling to cool my cpu and with its max power my coy fries to 100 degrees....so i m switching to Noctua NH-D15 and i will say goodbye to all of that fucking liquid for good
I mean that is anecdotal based on your one experience, I wouldn’t say they are all crap at all. Liquid cooling and AIOs wouldn’t still be sold if they failed like your experience all the time, so that just means you are just one of the unfortunate few that got faulty hardware. I am saying as someone who had a similar experience of only experiencing issues with a product, but with Samsung phones. I had a phone that right after limited warranty ended my phone started dying at like 88 percent all of a sudden. Like full need to plug into wall dying. All due to faulty hardware. Had to be tethered to a power bank everywhere constantly for at least a year before being able to upgrade. Even with that I don’t call all Samsung phones bad because of my one experience as I know infinitely more people than my own experience has wonderfully fine experiences that last many years, I just know I won’t buy them further. I can just say I had AIO for my old PC build. Used it for 6 or so years, and I am very certain it would still keep going if it wasn’t for it being for old hardware and having long since upgraded from it as I switched to AMD. Using an NH-D15 now and it is really good on my 5800X3D.
@meowmeowcat99 idk bro but aios and liquid will always have limited life span and will be a shiet with air you're safe for life with liquid you re fucked within 2 3 to max lf 7 years for the best and the most expensive aios...why to buy aio again and think in another 3 4 years i will need to intervene again to change it due to failure or liquid loss or evaporation when i can go for air like noctua and stay calm for life goddammit...fuck aios man
😂 buy a new 1 or repair it.. problem solved.. it's water it doesn't stay forever obviously whatever you are doing is alot to burn up all the water.. get an ait cooler that naturally runs hotter then and fry your cpu if you think that's better. There are videos of 2 computers same build water cooled vs air cooled and air cooled are naturally hotter..
@513nattiboykris dude you speak nonesense..watercooling is crap and the best air coolers can beat liquid like noctua so st0fu...with my Noctua NH-D15 my i5 11600k have never seen temps like 50 to max of 60 in stres test or gaming...with 2 aios icue corsair 240 and id cooling zoomflow 240 i had only 70 80 degrees and later when both f0cked up i had 90 100 now with my Noctua a have max lf 65 in stres test and average of 55 60 in gaming so f....your liquid crap coolwr which will last only a fee years to 7 years at best with my noctua air cooler i can stay calm and relaxed for life ! And now i have no more stres no problem no water leak no stres with the pump or with the water evaporation no problems ! Water cooling is a ultimate shiet and will be for ever
@@513nattiboykris water cooling will be something in 50 to 100 years when all the problems will be solved and maybe will be safe like air with 0 evaporation 100% sealed systems and no water disappearing or no maintenance needed..until then if i m alive i m staying on air ! End of story...you on the other hand enjoy your liquid shiet while yoy still can
I love how dual air cooling towers look like. Right now im on stock cooling 🤢 but im going to buy a silentiumpc grandis 2. My brother has this beast in his pc and its beautiful.
Water cooling is legitimately set it and forget it if you build it right the first time. I have no problems whatsoever with my water cooler. My friend didn't even know his computer was water cooled for 12 years. Another friend passed away and left him the PC and we found out it was water cooled when I opened it up to clean it. There's no complication to a liquid cooler that doesn't exist with an air cooler and your performances are on average 20° c cooler. Also yes this is been the quietest PC I have ever owned and I am to the point now to where I'm going to start water cooling my own components. I'm even about to attempt to modify one of my gpus so that it will be internally water cooled for an additional $15 instead of $300 for the GPU heat block.
Yea Aios have no maintenance... You don't need rbg in an aio.. Aios literally come in 120 form factor lol🤦♂️ Again no. Aios don't just drip and leak. Thats such horseshit. Your more likely to have your tower fall off its mount and damage your motherboard than you are an aio to leak fluid into your pc. Your comment just proves you've literally out 2 mins of research into water cooling 😂
Yes, in proper configured custom loop water will remove heat better than aircooler ever will. Do you need it? Hell no. Most PC users will never need one. PC Watercooling (Not those AIO) will always be for enthusiasts who know its expensive as hell, risky and once a year you should at least replace your coolant. In my case I replace coolant, clean out the blocks, check seals etc plus clean whole PC, but thats me 😅
Happy to have my ROG Ryujin 240 as AIO liquid cooler and I love the silence from my PC because just very faint fan humming is actually relaxing but some jet engine AMD Wraith Stealth may actually keep me up at night, that's why I still don't regret having an AIO liquid cooler, but of course the everyday PC I built for my grandparents, they certainly don't play games any demanding than Microsoft Solitaire and other essential games and browse the internet, that's why the Intel's stock cooler works the best in their machine.
Liquid cool is silent... If you compare to a 100% CPU fan. A medium wattage CPU and a good air cooler is almost silent on a normal desktop usage, even some of them almost stopping fans. While a pump will be running and humming 24/7.
ironic. My 5900x uses more power than my 10900kf. The 5900x, with pbo tuning (undervolting, not overclocking!!), uses ~240w, while the 10900kf overclocked, uses ~200w. Not a huge difference, but still. I use an arctic freezer 34 duo on either. I regret buying it so much. Such an awful cooler. I agree, if your cpu uses
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Air cooling all the way.
But dust is our enemy!!!
Air cooling is easier, liquid cooler is better
@@bigdata5732until it spills
@@bigdata5732 I disagree, liquid cooling isn’t nearly as good as you think it is. Air coolers, especially Noctua coolers; are fantastic. Their performance can go toe to toe with liquid cooling easily; gives you more airflow (water cooling will only give you 2-3 fans on a radiator and none on your CPU, vs just mounting 3 fans and having 2 fans on your CPU cooler,) is leagues easier to install (installing my AIO was a nightmare..) and if an air cooler breaks down, it’s very straightforward and easy to diagnose. If an AIO breaks.. well you can kiss your system goodbye lol. Take it from me, don’t buy into the liquid cooling hype (unless you’re going for pure aesthetics, then maybe buy into it lol)
@@bloodsausage6635 Well, I personally didnt run into any problems. The case I use already has 4 fans, so liquid was kind of an extra. The store I bought the parts from gave the pc to me already finished, so I didnt have to go through the trouble. I would say liquid cooling does cool it a bit more than air cooling, but yeah its risky and maybe not good for beginners. And only if noctua fans didnt look so awkward with a casual black rig.
@@bloodsausage6635yeah but those big chunky coolers are super ugly
I'm currently in the water cooling category, whenever I get around to building another PC though I definitely plan to air cool it. Especially when it's done right air cooled builds can look awesome.
True!
Water cooling is better until one of the components spring a leak and drips on the graphics card.
Proper installation and maintenance will fix that
@@Salad-818 to lazy to do maintenance and broke lol
@@ZZaccFarythen why are you commenting? Get more money and spend more time taking care that shit won’t happen?
@@emekaasiegbu3697 i was sick lol
Totally Agree!! Love your content
Air cooled for sure if only gaming. But liquid coolers are hard to match when it comes to cpu demanding tasks.
not if you use a ryzen
If you really need the maximum amount of cooling performance, then water cooling is probably worth it.
Using 13th/14th gen Intel and planning on using it for 3d rendering... yeah, I need the water 😂
Me who's a laptop user with fried motherboard: ......
You rock man! Hope you had a good birthday 🎉
Thermal / fluid dynamics basically -^-
Price to performance ratio is all I care about air coolers are cheaper than liquid and if you factor the lifespan of liquid coolers air coolers is an easy win
I'm a air cooler guy as there's always a chance of a water leak and if tgat happends that £1800 down the drain
That's why I dont use water cooling I don't trust it
The pump of the liquid cooler gives up after 2years(i had one)
Also if you get a LOW PROFILE air cooler (see styles like wraith prism for amd) then the argument of less space blah blah blah is gone out the window.
Also, if you're a BRAND NEW BUILDER ON A BUDGET the the stock cooler will work JUST FINE!
Also it's been proven by different YT videos that the only thing that rises with an AIO..... Is the price.
Seems like this video is designed for people who build pcs
What about people who buy prebuilt pcs? Which one is better?
I mean, it's really not that difficult. Just follow the instructions. Unless you're missing an arm, it should be a no-brainer
@@GForceIntel and if you afraid you might screw something up (like me), ask or pay someone else to do it for you
@xero5727 did you at least try. There is a video call on how to build a pc step by step. Is literally impossible to get it wrong.
@@GForceIntel yeah, but if someone doesn't want to do it, what right do you have to force them?
All depends on what you will be doing with that computer. If just gaming and the cpu is something like an i5 intel or ryzen 5, air cooling should be fine. If you will be doing a lot of rendering or other cpu intensive tasks, go with liquid cooling.
Depends on what you define as water cooling... If you build your own piping system with a tank a pumping system, then that's true water cooling, but what is where the time wasting part comes. Aio water cooling is nice, but if you are getting a water cooler and already wasting time, you might as well waste a little more time and get the real thing
thermal paste? not really, just use thermal pade that last forever
Having working in pc repair for a few years now I can honestly say I will never put an AIO in my system. Seen over a dozen fried CPU's because of AIO failures. Too many manufacturers using dissimilar metals in their systems.
What's an AIO
@@513nattiboykris All-In-One water cooling.
@@davefroman4700 so water coolers? You think are bad?
@@513nattiboykris Not exactly, there's two types of water coolers. AIO, the ones that are pre-built/assembled and just need to be mounted and plugged in, and then there's the Custom Loop ones where experienced/enthusiastic builders can let their imagination run wild on that as you build your own loops through the entire system.
Not for aio cooling I don’t ever have to change it or anything
Bro you can set up Aio cooler and forget
for me aio all the way
Thermal paste????
Thi is what you should always use:just get a aircooler for 99% of time never buy an aio! They dont offer much better performence for the extra cost
Liguid cooler: if you need / eant the extra cooling make a custom loop its a lot more expensive but much better(aio is way more inferior to custom water cooling)
I like air because aio has more points of failure.
Air cooling if your pc is 2000 dollars or lower it is yours and you don’t care about looks water cooling other wise
air cooling better cuz cheaper and temps are better
No
air cooling does not have a pump that breaks..
Ever heard of warranty? Lol
The opposite is true for me, the aio keeps pushing into my ram and broke 2 sticks before i finally switched back to air
Liquid and aios are crap my 2 year aio is now dead with no water or very little in it and my cpu hits 100 degrees in stres or gaming my pump and fans are working but even though all of that works my cpu is struggling to cool my cpu and with its max power my coy fries to 100 degrees....so i m switching to Noctua NH-D15 and i will say goodbye to all of that fucking liquid for good
I mean that is anecdotal based on your one experience, I wouldn’t say they are all crap at all. Liquid cooling and AIOs wouldn’t still be sold if they failed like your experience all the time, so that just means you are just one of the unfortunate few that got faulty hardware.
I am saying as someone who had a similar experience of only experiencing issues with a product, but with Samsung phones. I had a phone that right after limited warranty ended my phone started dying at like 88 percent all of a sudden. Like full need to plug into wall dying. All due to faulty hardware. Had to be tethered to a power bank everywhere constantly for at least a year before being able to upgrade.
Even with that I don’t call all Samsung phones bad because of my one experience as I know infinitely more people than my own experience has wonderfully fine experiences that last many years, I just know I won’t buy them further.
I can just say I had AIO for my old PC build. Used it for 6 or so years, and I am very certain it would still keep going if it wasn’t for it being for old hardware and having long since upgraded from it as I switched to AMD.
Using an NH-D15 now and it is really good on my 5800X3D.
@meowmeowcat99 idk bro but aios and liquid will always have limited life span and will be a shiet with air you're safe for life with liquid you re fucked within 2 3 to max lf 7 years for the best and the most expensive aios...why to buy aio again and think in another 3 4 years i will need to intervene again to change it due to failure or liquid loss or evaporation when i can go for air like noctua and stay calm for life goddammit...fuck aios man
😂 buy a new 1 or repair it.. problem solved.. it's water it doesn't stay forever obviously whatever you are doing is alot to burn up all the water.. get an ait cooler that naturally runs hotter then and fry your cpu if you think that's better. There are videos of 2 computers same build water cooled vs air cooled and air cooled are naturally hotter..
@513nattiboykris dude you speak nonesense..watercooling is crap and the best air coolers can beat liquid like noctua so st0fu...with my Noctua NH-D15 my i5 11600k have never seen temps like 50 to max of 60 in stres test or gaming...with 2 aios icue corsair 240 and id cooling zoomflow 240 i had only 70 80 degrees and later when both f0cked up i had 90 100 now with my Noctua a have max lf 65 in stres test and average of 55 60 in gaming so f....your liquid crap coolwr which will last only a fee years to 7 years at best with my noctua air cooler i can stay calm and relaxed for life ! And now i have no more stres no problem no water leak no stres with the pump or with the water evaporation no problems ! Water cooling is a ultimate shiet and will be for ever
@@513nattiboykris water cooling will be something in 50 to 100 years when all the problems will be solved and maybe will be safe like air with 0 evaporation 100% sealed systems and no water disappearing or no maintenance needed..until then if i m alive i m staying on air ! End of story...you on the other hand enjoy your liquid shiet while yoy still can
Basically
Air Cooler = Easier to use and Less Efficient
Water Cooler = Harder to use and More Efficient
I love how dual air cooling towers look like. Right now im on stock cooling 🤢 but im going to buy a silentiumpc grandis 2. My brother has this beast in his pc and its beautiful.
imagine if the water starts boiling
I just switched to liquid cooling today and love it. PC is quiet now and it fixed my CPU heat issue I had with aircoolers
Water cooling is legitimately set it and forget it if you build it right the first time. I have no problems whatsoever with my water cooler. My friend didn't even know his computer was water cooled for 12 years. Another friend passed away and left him the PC and we found out it was water cooled when I opened it up to clean it. There's no complication to a liquid cooler that doesn't exist with an air cooler and your performances are on average 20° c cooler. Also yes this is been the quietest PC I have ever owned and I am to the point now to where I'm going to start water cooling my own components. I'm even about to attempt to modify one of my gpus so that it will be internally water cooled for an additional $15 instead of $300 for the GPU heat block.
Who is putting micro atx motherboard in a full tower case
for me its the other way around
4090 system here, aircooling forever.
Water cooling is better for servers, but for gaming air is better
Water is better. There are some days where its hot in summer and air fan drives me nuts.
High end pcs : liquid cooler ✅
I use liquid nitrogen.
I like air cooling:
* Cheaper
* Less maintenance
* No RGB
* Fits in small case
* Safer
Yea
Aios have no maintenance...
You don't need rbg in an aio..
Aios literally come in 120 form factor lol🤦♂️
Again no. Aios don't just drip and leak. Thats such horseshit. Your more likely to have your tower fall off its mount and damage your motherboard than you are an aio to leak fluid into your pc.
Your comment just proves you've literally out 2 mins of research into water cooling 😂
2 to 5 years?💀
A custom water loop is also freakin sexy
"sexy" ;-;
Yes, in proper configured custom loop water will remove heat better than aircooler ever will. Do you need it? Hell no. Most PC users will never need one. PC Watercooling (Not those AIO) will always be for enthusiasts who know its expensive as hell, risky and once a year you should at least replace your coolant. In my case I replace coolant, clean out the blocks, check seals etc plus clean whole PC, but thats me 😅
I have a corsair custom loop is that overkill for my i9 12900k
Happy to have my ROG Ryujin 240 as AIO liquid cooler and I love the silence from my PC because just very faint fan humming is actually relaxing but some jet engine AMD Wraith Stealth may actually keep me up at night, that's why I still don't regret having an AIO liquid cooler, but of course the everyday PC I built for my grandparents, they certainly don't play games any demanding than Microsoft Solitaire and other essential games and browse the internet, that's why the Intel's stock cooler works the best in their machine.
Water cooling will more cool than air cooling if that water cooling is custom with water tank, not aio in today market
I'm a custom water cooling loop person
Also I'm glad you touched on all the points
Water cooling master race
Could care less what my computers internals looks like, so air cool for me!
Water& electricity? No thx
Bro we need to know intantly when we run endless loop hahaha
what we actually need is dry ice
wrong
Liquid cool is silent... If you compare to a 100% CPU fan.
A medium wattage CPU and a good air cooler is almost silent on a normal desktop usage, even some of them almost stopping fans.
While a pump will be running and humming 24/7.
modern cpus dont get hot
Regading loudness I'm running my air cooling 600rpms, it's completely silent. Can I silent the pump?
aircoolers are silent if you use a ryzen because they use low power
Aio is going to take over, as CPU’s get better they get hotter as well
actually no, they use less power
If your intel consumes 300w you don't have a choice. But
ironic. My 5900x uses more power than my 10900kf. The 5900x, with pbo tuning (undervolting, not overclocking!!), uses ~240w, while the 10900kf overclocked, uses ~200w. Not a huge difference, but still. I use an arctic freezer 34 duo on either. I regret buying it so much. Such an awful cooler.
I agree, if your cpu uses
solution, use a ryzen
Aio in the front in the best