Thx for sharing. I expected a more detailed review regarding the performance of the Kona over the total trip, e.g. the average consumption, average speed, the range, and total trip time (driving, charging). Probably in a coming video 🙂
This is interesting looking back on it from 5 years in the future, how much things have advanced and changed. And some that have not, cough Electrify America issues.
One day I will have an electric vehicle, but it will be for the daily commute. The wife will continue to have the gas vehicle for longer trips. My problem is I still have the mindset of getting from point A to point B as quickly as possible. Don't get me wrong. I love driving. And that's just it. I love driving. Not stopping for long periods to essentially do nothing. Stopping every two hours hours to recharge for a half hour or longer doesn't cut it for me. I once drove from Winter Park, FL to Long Valley, NJ in under 17 hours. That included two stops for gas. It would've been a two-day trip with an overnight stay at a hotel with an EV. And the twice-yearly drives from NJ to NC can be done in about 8.5 hours with one stop for gas. I want to be on the road. Not in a parking lot. But great content! Thanks for taking us along.
This definitely makes me wanna get a Kona EV. However, Hyundai is releasing the Ioniq 5 this year which is supposed to have around a 342-350 mile (550-563 Km) range. Hopefully, the Ioniq 5 isn't too expensive.
(Long and rabeling as I just got home from this trip. Just stream of thoughts.) I live in FL almost as far south as Marco where he (Out of Spec Motoring) visited. I bought my Kona Limited in Maryland outside of DC while visiting family. My wife and I drove back separately. The trip went mostly well. She made better time than I did. I was "lucky" in that most of the network where I was driving was in limited power mode so no charging over 50kw but that also defaults to the lowest price tier. There was one charger in Forsyth GA that had a different manufacturer and it was not power limited. As noted in the video my Kona never showed on the screen anything above 74kw and then it dropped down to 68 or 69kw. They bumped me up to the middle tier pricing (+75 - 150kw) and it was double at $16 where I usually paid $6 - $8. EA needs to address this issue. If not I wish Hyundai would allow us to set a max kW in the car software. I don't take many road trips so it's not an issue as much with me but we need to all be vocal about it as there are not many of us out there with Konas and Niros. Overall the car was excellent on my trip. I did miss the adaptive cruise control on the highway that we have on our other car a Subaru Forester. I couldn't justify the extra cost of the Ultimate trim Kona for that one feature. Android Auto worked well. I didn't miss not having the integrated navigation. It's hard to beat google maps and waze if you are already familiar with them. Lane keeping assistant on max works well but it felt like it was keeping me slightly to the right. Fine for two lane roads but for highways I often felt like I was fighting it to keep my car in the middle of the lane when cars were on my right side.
@@jobney Ah cool I really want to try and drive my future Kona or Model 3 or Kia Stinger EV (that's my dream car if they ever build it) from where I live now in Alabama back to my hometown in Anchorage, Alaska, it would be so epic and would be such a fun adventure, hope I can someday. It's technically possible according to plug share but requires a lot of slow charging at RV parks in B.C. and Yukon. Also can't wait to try out the electrify america stations. Just crazy to see these in America, so used to only seeing a reliable fast charging network in Europe (Bjorn Nyland)
We drove from Langley, BC (Vancouver) to Issaquah, WA (Seattle) and back up to Mount Vernon, WA, a total of 325 km or 201 miles. We had enough umph to get home (422km/262mi), but we had to do side trips along I-5 to Bellingham and Lynden and did not wish to push it. Our next trip will be over the BC Rockies to Merritt (230km/143mi) up a long stretch of 10% grades or Kamloops (313km/194mi). Fortunately they have chargers in those cities and at the top of the pass after the long climbs. We will see. Enjoyed your video completely. Bring a good book I say.
Hi From Abbotsford, BC. Let us know how the trip goes and any tips you discovered on the way. Especially with running AC on these hot days combined with the climb over the Coquihalla.
We drove our 2019 TM3 SR+ from Calgary AB to Victoria BC and back about 3 weeks ago. Except for waiting for a supercharger spot to open up at Kamloops BC as it was full with another Tesla waiting(Tesla this week added 2 more spots).We missed the 9am ferry as it was full,We got on 10am ferry(Last car) My wife drove from Hope BC supercharger to around Merritt BC,She didn't want to use cruise as the speed limit is 120kmh and didn't want to drive that fast,I looked over and she was driving 130-145kmh.We easily made it to Kamloops BC supercharger from Hope BC it was +37c Road trips are a breeze in a Tesla.
Kyle. I commend you on a top class video and test of the Kona EV. Apart from Bjorn Nyland and yourself most test presentations of this vehicle on RUclips are total rubbish, especially from actual owners ! You’ve won a like and subscribe from me without hesitation. Many thanks for a terrific upload. Outstanding. 👍
Having a Kona 2020 on my shopping list made this road trip an exceptionally good learning experience in terms of estimating variability in performance. Thank you.
Thanks for this great video. It is videos like yours that has helped me to have the confidence to buy this superb car. I bought a Kona Electric in 2020 and I have been enjoying it for the last 4 years. Thanks again!
Kyle, we really enjoyed riding along with you on the Kona EV road trip. Great 👍 information, entertaining visuals, and a wonderful experienced perspective. Looking forward to your next road trip already!
My goodness! I've done 5800 miles of interstate road trips in my Tesla Model 3 over the past year with a total of 36 Supercharger stops. I had only one charger perform poorly (San Antonio, TX). Tesla's estimated time of arrival and state of charge predictions are within 1%. No range anxiety at all. Only once did I arrive a charger with less than 15% SoC. I can't imagine going through what you did on this trip.
Great segment. It give people a great glimpse at what goes into owning an EV. Production notes: Having a lav mic on would help with the sound issues as the directional mic's only pick up what they are pointing too and you don't run the risk of your thumb covering the built in mic port on the camera itself. I'd leave the graphics up a second longer as I was finding the gfx disappear before I had a chance to finish reading it. And an over all recount of the trip to sum it all up would have put it all together for me. ... you know the TL:DR ??? Cheers
Thank you for this video. You've persuaded me to make the Kona Electric our household's next second car (our present everyday car = 2018 Nissan LEAF SV w/40 kWh battery, which has been wonderful). Now, if only it would be sold in a CARB non-compliant state...
Huge! The crazy thing is I could not have done this trip 2 months ago while most of the Electrify America stations were being built. With a Tesla, I do this trip often, it’s a breeze and has been for years! Vertical integration on Teslas part makes the cars so seamless to use. Have to give them tons of props for that!
Amen to that! I bought my Model 3 for commuting but find it much better for road trips than ICE. Big Auto needs to partner and standardize and improve DCFC networks or else Tesla will dominate the EV space and put them out of business.
Agreed for the road trips. Both Ben and Kyle have Model 3’s as road trip cars. Kyle has been back and forth between CT and FL 3 times in the past couple months in the Model 3 and going again next week to see the falcon heavy launch... easy as cake!
Thanks for the cool video. The state of chargers is why I still drive a Volt. It WILL get sorted out as EV's are the future. The Kona seems rock-solid, but I'm waiting for the Niro EV, VW ID line, Volvo XC40 EV, and the Model Y before I dump my CR-V second car.
Really useful video. For me you needed to recharge too often, at not always reliable charging stations. Its good that someone is pioneering this technology, because one day I shall adopt it. But not yet.
Great video! I wouldn't be surprised if the petrochemical industry is running a covert sabotage operation against EV charging stations. Love my 2022 Kona.
Kyle, Great video. How can you tell the 150Kw chargers from the 350kw chargers at a glance? The Kona proved that it was a solid trip car. Public fast charger is still a little weak for the masses (as you stated in the video). I think if a spouse was on the trip the stress level caused by the range anxiety would have been significant. Also it would have been good to have a summary that shows what time you left and what time you arrived at Marco Island so that we can calculate the average trip MPH. In my ice car I often average 60 mph. In other EV videos the average (with charging included) is closer to 50 mph. Also since the GOM was consistently wrong and lead to range anxiety and for the time being long distance travel by a non Tesla EV requires careful planning and thinking, why not use the actual kWh per mile for your driving style >300 wh/m? So if you are at the charger and it has added 30kWh you know you can go 100 miles. Or working backwards if the next charger is 150 miles away you need at least 45kWh in the pack? If I was traveling in a Kona with a wife and teenagers I would be doing that math.
Thank you! Pulling into EA stations I would look at the rated output under the dispenser handle. Also I agree, this trip would have been aggravating for passengers not interested in charging “for fun”. EVs that can charge fast to 80%+ such as the E-Tron and others coming will likely help with this problem. Apologies for not having a total summary of trip time and speed, I should have logged all of that but didn’t. Will do so for next trip (likely in a Bolt!) I was actually doing that math for the later stops, you’ll notice no close calls after the first day. I didn’t include that in the video as I thought it may have been too hard for people to grasp that concept... We’ll see if the viewers want more technical breakdowns like us, I’m happy to provide that for the next trip. In reference to the two times I cut it close, the first was on my first leg with the car, having never driven it more than 3 miles. Didn’t know what to expect for efficiency. The second time I calculated it based off a wrong consumption figure... I had been in traffic all day and figured I needed to account for higher consumption but at speed the Kona really uses a lot more power than I originally anticipated. The highway consumption is almost 30-40% higher than when in the city which is a bigger difference than I’ve seen with the Teslas. Part of this is likely due to its ride height and it can benefit from up to 150kW regen when slowing down (massive amount I know) which I wasn’t doing cruising down the highway. Thanks for watching and the comment, hope to see you soon!
@@OutofSpecMotoring You know that's something I wonder about on a road trip... Do you really want to use high regen? I get regen in city traffic, or a route with alot of elevation changes, but when road tripping in Florida for instance (flat) wouldn't low regen be better for range? I'm thinking letting the car coast down minor grades would get you better range. Something for you to test maybe.
No need to test, it’s absolutely more efficient to coast and increase speed rather than using regen and then accelerating. However, if you have to slow down for traffic etc then regen is much better than using friction brakes. I’ve been in situations where I’ve had to eek out every last Wh of energy and I’ve neutral coasted down hills. Anytime you’re “charging” the battery, either from regen or at a station, there’s going to be losses
Nobody worried by the static the camera captured when charging? Getting my Kona Electric this thursday. Just after confirming the appointment, learned about the reason my colleague was absent: the plug of his homecharger had melted to the car's Chargeport. He has the Ionic. Not worried at All; I don't have a homecharger 🤔😶 ------------------------ Forgot about this post until it got a like; thank you! Turned out the plug attached to the homechargercable was not up to spec. So nothing wrong without the car; it was the homecharger that was causing this!
T. Bakker Do you mean the waviness on the car’s screen that was visible? If so, that is a moire patterned caused by the pixel size on the car screen interacting with the pixel pattern on the camera’s charge coupled device. It is not static electricity.
Awesome video & a lot of great information…thanks! Just took my first day-trip with the Kona this past weekend…about 260 miles round trip. Charged up just once for about 25 minutes just for a little buffer on the NJ Turnpike. Looking forward to many more long-distance trips with this great little car. Although for the most part we’ve only done local driving, I haven’t experienced the wild swings in range with the GOM that you have. The GOM was within 5 miles during this weekend’s trip, but it was a dry day, with a relatively conservative driving style. It’s something I’ll certainly keep an eye on, especially with the dramatic changes in elevation in my area…NY, NJ, CT.
22:41 I wonder if the rain/humidity is messing with either the cabinet or the terminals. I'm thinking back to another time an EA station was down during the rain, but that had another variable - updating.
I'd just like to point out that 72% of the 415km range the Kona is rated for is 299km, and you got 305km on that first leg, so that's right in line with the range it should be getting. Definitely sucks to have the unpleasant surprise of a 50km (30mi) buffer fall to 5km (3 mi), but my best guess would be because of the highway speed you are travelling at. Thanks for making the vid; I have a Kona on order
Loved the video! Hilarious that you had to remove the radar detector going through Virginia. I live here and we’re the only state with no radar detectors allowed.
I've been poking around to see real world DC charging speeds of cars that use the same basic technology as the Chevy Bolt, and I was amused to hear you say three years ago that Electrify America is kind of buggy. Things have not changed much. :-)
21:25 Those Efacec chargers have been causing a lot of problems. Hopefully, they can fix or replace them soon. Out in the west, we mostly have ABB, BTC, and Signet, which for the most part have been solid. ABB has some issues with older GM EVs, and BTC might have some issues with Honda's CCS vehicles. But that's about it. No major failures like Efacec.
Can you keep us posted on the EA Kona issue? I bought my Kona Electric early this month, the first one sold in Colorado thanks to ZEV! After leaving the dealer and fast charging on a EA from 20% to 90% to make it home 240 miles away I spend $45 on that one charge. This being my first EV I thought I did something wrong... thanks for the videos iv watched a lot of them! I’m taking the Kona on a work trip in October from Montrose CO to Las Vegas NV 1400 mile round trip. I hope the EA network will be fixed by then as there is no other fast chargers to use out west along my route.
I got low in a Zoe - I had to use the dongle to see how much range I had left! I got there on 1% on the battery -the display was actually shutting off!
Tomas Kim on the left side of each charger. The first two are green, so they work. The third from the left is red, so it’s offline. The one he has the car plugged in is blue, which means charging
Tesla onboard navigation/trip planner DOES take elevation into account, and is extremely accurate. You can see the downhill gains on the Trip planner energy page (actual vs estimated). ABetterRoutePlanner.com GREAT website does too and also can take weather, rain, temps, headwinds into account (entered manually) along w/ multiple stops, exact pricing and charge stop times.
Regarding the Kona, I would like to see you test the Auto-Regen setting; how it works and why it exists. Also, I would like to hear you explain the paddle shifters and how they let you choose regen levels from 0-3; when to use each etc... seems like added value above Tesla offering for regen. Post a quick vid perhaps on the Out of Spec Channel?
After a month of Kona driving, I always choose max paddle regen charging/braking. Why? Because the paddle won't brake as hard as the foot brake. I set cruise, and when I am coming to a stop I lower the cruise speed in anticipation, then let the car brake (only if I have a car stopped in front of me, not turning). Doing that I rarely use the paddles.
Can't believe you don't get as much juice as you can so you have a buffer just in case. I put a lot of miles on my 2018 Soul EV and have never come so close as you have to running out. I only have 105 to 125 miles of range. My longest trip has only been 500 miles. I just stop more frequently but it takes less time to charge to 93% with a smaller battery.
To answer your question why those caps are on the charger ports: turned out that putting the charger in front means that in wintertime water/snow gets in the ports and ices up! Then you can't get your charger in. Watch Tesla Bjorn's channel: he found out the hard way!
Did you not stay at a hotel at all? Csn you talk about how you plan your sleep and charge time for long trips? I imagine a L2 would fit nicely into the mix when sleeping.
I’m a Stamfort CT resident and travel sometimes between here and Western KY. I would love an EV, but I worry about the availability of chargers along the way.
In a Tesla that is a very easy trip to make. Plug share is a great website that maps out all the chargers and should help put your mind at ease. it is very important to remember how rapidly electric vehicle infrastructure is expanding. 6 months from now it will be better and in a year or two it will be almost a non-issue.
For a minute I was like "an extra hour to charging...man, maybe I'll just stick with plug in hybrids". Than I remembered: I'm probably going to retire around 2060. If we do nothing to mitigate global warming, people of my generation get to look forward to retiring in a world where only the most valuable costal cities that can afford expensive levie systems don't have to be abandoned. Where I get to look forward to eating tofu algae burgers in a studio apartment with a view of acid bleached scrubland that used to be farms. EVs have MUCH lower lifetime emissions than gas vehicles. When you realize the choice you're making is to spend more time enjoying the scenery or destroying it, it's not that hard of a choice.
I brought my 2020 Kona EV in for a software update for recall 199, "reduced braking power". I dropped the car off 07/15/2021 at 9 a.m. in the morning. Over 30 hours later the car is still in the shop. Unfortunately, Hyundai didn't invest in over the air update technology, which means owners of Hyundai EVs have to schedule maintenance appointments for software updates. Then after dropping the car off they have to wait for a technician to get around to it. Keep in mind the service center is also working on ICE cars as well so it might take a day, two, or three to get your EV back. I totally regret buying this car. Don't make the same mistake. Look at the other competitors, Tesla, GM, Ford, and so on.
I'm new to the EV party and I'm trying to figure out what would be best for me - EV vs PHEV. Does it bug you to make stops that last at least an hour each? Seems it would make a trip SO much longer!
If you use the cars navigation system will it give you a more accurate mileage on how far the car will make it? Not sure if the cars navigation system accounts for hills and turns and whatnot.
It would be very interesting to know the price paid for charging calculated per travelled mile and recalculated to compare to the same gasoline size vehicle paid for the same trip.
Fun fact. In my country (and the surrounding ones) "filling up" your tesla/EV costs more than filling up a gas tank.... And dont let me start on the chargers infrastructure. In some cases you have a charger but it doesnt get enough power.
Hi guys, Have you guys done any charging cost comparison between this car vs Tesla for this trip? I just wonder if in the long run the tesla based car would be worth the extra cost & hassle that you have to deal with other brands? I really appreciate your comments! thanks guys great review
For all of your videos you should include the $ for each charge and the total for your road trips. I have a Kia Nero EV, I purchased it because I have a 80 mile daily commute and I charge FREE at work. Not sure it makes sense to do road trips considering the cost of rapid DC fast charging and the time you waste.
I just started watching your video's. I have become very intrigued with the EV. I currently drive a dodge 3500 4x4 diesel 6.7 ltr dually long bed & use it for work. I P/U travel trailers in Indiana from the manufacturer & deliver them to the dealerships. I am gonna subscribe & hit notification button & hope you do a E-Tron long trip video soon. Also when it comes out the Tesla Y which I am sure you are interested in that vehicle to test. Thanks for the great content.
I actually use that app all the time. But for this one I wanted to get in the Kona, a car I had never driven before. And then head out on this big trip with no knowledge of if I’d make it or not. I seriously didn’t even look at plugshare until I was on the road. It was going to be representative of someone heading on a trip but that theme died when I was editing this together. Thanks for the comment though, I love a better route planner!
@@OutofSpecMotoring Fair enough, I was just curious is all. Kona looks like a great vehicle. I convinced a buddy of mine on the west coast of Canada to get one. They have pretty decent charging infrastructure out there.
@@gusbarber00 Langley BC needs more chargers. Charging in BC can be a strategic wait. The I-5 corridor from WA to CA is packed with chargers as is Bellevue/Redmond (Microsoft land) I-405.
@@stevewallace1117 Take a look at the situation around Calgary. It is pretty bleak once outside the city. There is some on hwy2 going north. There is a bunch being installed South East of here but they wont be all on line till the end of the year or so.
I am going back and forth on getting a Kona or Model 3. Considering the expiring tax incentives, is it ultimately worth it to get the Tesla? Or should I get the Kona and enjoy the savings, but risk feeling unfulfilled? Those back seats are really tight, regardless of the savings.
Hi Kyle, receiving my Kona EV any day now watching all of these vids with great interest so thanks! Curious question: SHOCK Anxiety (rather than Range anxiety) ;-) You were charging at a couple of stations in the South IN THE RAIN (particularly the one that kept timing out)... Any special instructions for that? Wear rubber soled shoes?... make sure your grounded?... dont lick the plug socket?... That just seems like an accident waiting to happen.
Charging in the rain is no problem. You actually can lick the plug socket, as no high power ever flows through until it's connected with the car and the handle is locked in. Enjoy driving electric!
Excellent video, but PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, mention charge speeds in Kilowatts next time. Using either amps or volts is confusing, since you need both of them to figure out the actual charging power. Thanks.
Okay, I replied too quickly. You only did that during your first charging session, thankfully. I shouldn't have yelped so quickly. 😉 Thanks again for trying this out and overcoming multiple bouts of range anxiety to make this video for us!
Hej friend! Thank you for your nice informative videos. I happen to have a kona ev here in Stockholm Sweden. My problem is that the 12volts battery of the car discharged and left me helpless without been able to move the car even a mm, only one year after I had bought it new. Do you have any suggestions on how to prevent it from happening again? Thank you for your time and in advance for your advice!
For me, driving 1500 miles in two days is unthinkable. I would limit my driving to 300 miles per day at most. My only motive for taking a long road trip is touring, not self-punishment. I'll see how it goes when my I4-M Sport 40 comes in next month. The last really long road trip I did was coast to coast in 1967.
Hi Kyle, I saw you had a Tesla wall connector, and a j1772 adapter. I saw that you ran it beneath the garage door. Is that safe? (I have the same thing, and don't want to pinch or kink the cord)
What were the charging, total costs either one way or whole trip? Bummer about the unreliable Electrify America stations. I tried three EV trips in my BMW i3-REx via Manchester TN and only two successfully charged. Worse, with EVgo and Electrify America, EV travel cost 3-4x gas and the BMW uses premium.
Thanks for this Kona EV video I been really curious about this car and your long trip makes it seem like it was a very good car to maybe own , one thing else, if the base kona EV is $37,000, what is the base model 3, and which is best for a newbe in the EV world ?
Electrify America, brought to you by VW. The same thing is called Ionity in Europe. The Chargers are so buggy because the VW software engineers included the standard emission fraud software package they are in the habit of including with every product. Moreover, those chargers with software provided by the performance department are excessively loud.
@@fpartidafpartida It is way behind. A year has past since I made this comment and I think things might eventually be turning for the better. But then again...
The GOM wasn’t entirely accurate. In a mixed style of driving it’s going to be even worse off... the Kona has incredible city range partially due to its immense 150kW regen under hard braking. On the highway you don’t brake therefore you will have significantly less range than in the city, as well as for other reasons. The GOM doesn’t know where you will be driving therefore it estimates based off of your previous history. If you were driving in traffic all morning and then start ripping it down the highway, it takes quite a bit of time to catch up... but when it does it drops hard. After the first day I used my own math to calculate range based on my personal predicted efficiency.
They have a really nice wide spread and travel quite far into the distance (aside from the weird void towards the left side which you’ll see in the video... likely to not blind oncoming traffic) but they aren’t super bright. In the US we have strict regulations on headlight output so it could be limited for our market, it feels like the LEDs have more to give. I would say you’re not going to miss seeing anything with them, not a deal breaker, and they’re much better than a lot of cars, but it feels like they should be 30% brighter.
Hi Jorge! The high beam assist was good on back roads. On the highway it would trigger on and off flashing oncoming traffic. Almost every system I’ve tested does this same thing. Great on single back roads but in urban or highway environments, it gets confused. I ended up switching the headlights out of auto to “on” to disable this feature on the highway... I‘ve done the same with other brands too, nothing specific to Hyundai. The Kona EV is really an incredible car. The second best EV (only to Tesla) factoring in cost at this point I’d say! Value for money is huge.
@@OutofSpecMotoring Since I cannot afford a Tesla. I got a Kona EV. I agree, the value for the money is huge. I will only get a Tesla if the price drops.
Damn! Almost 4 hours to go 190mi? Eesh. I’m used to driving about 2:15 to go to portland and that’s about 145mi away. Hmm sorta nervous about going electric if that means longer in time road trips.
But thank you for making this video bc I travel roughly 800 mi a day on a single trip when doing road trips so this helped me see a real world view of what an affordable ev can handle.
Many people price an EV on the sticker price. In the long run, I believe that the infrastructure of working charging stations and the availability of them make the Tesla a clear choice if you plan to travel with your EV. Hopefully Electrify America and the other charging businesses can get up and running to give potential EV customers more choices. After all, more choices gives the American consumer a wider range of electric cars with the end game of eliminating polluting gas cars.
Unless you need the trunk space or the ride height of the Kona, the Model 3 is a better car... it also has the supercharger network which is extremely robust in comparison to public charging. If you’re waiting for the Model Y for the ride height as many people are, the kona is a great choice as it is here now!
dont kid yourself. with the premium you pay for an ev you could have paid for gas for a regular car for 100-200k miles. and no hassle travel, no outrageous cost battery replacement, and now they charge more to plate because your not paying gas tax... dont get me wrong, i am a ev fan. but to think its going to save you $ is not correct.
Not sure if you meant to do it but my enthusiasm for ev just got zapped watching the vid. So much ranged anxiety on your trip...2%...3%...faulty stations. I’m sticking with gas for now.
Great Video! As you know I almost went Tesla and like the EV idea. This is a great demonstration of thought process on EV roadtrips! I'm liking my Honda Clarity PHEV... All electric around town...
Total costs and in depth discussion about the issues of charging on the trip here: ruclips.net/video/A4LpeGYGVew/видео.html
Thx for sharing.
I expected a more detailed review regarding the performance of the Kona over the total trip, e.g. the average consumption, average speed, the range, and total trip time (driving, charging). Probably in a coming video 🙂
I've got the courage to buy one now thanks for the hard work..
Great to hear! Good luck with it.
This is interesting looking back on it from 5 years in the future, how much things have advanced and changed. And some that have not, cough Electrify America issues.
A good point to follow....Just like while I fly my Airplane ....ALWAYS land with 25% fuel in the tanks....ALWAYS !!!
One day I will have an electric vehicle, but it will be for the daily commute. The wife will continue to have the gas vehicle for longer trips. My problem is I still have the mindset of getting from point A to point B as quickly as possible. Don't get me wrong. I love driving. And that's just it. I love driving. Not stopping for long periods to essentially do nothing. Stopping every two hours hours to recharge for a half hour or longer doesn't cut it for me. I once drove from Winter Park, FL to Long Valley, NJ in under 17 hours. That included two stops for gas. It would've been a two-day trip with an overnight stay at a hotel with an EV. And the twice-yearly drives from NJ to NC can be done in about 8.5 hours with one stop for gas. I want to be on the road. Not in a parking lot. But great content! Thanks for taking us along.
This definitely makes me wanna get a Kona EV. However, Hyundai is releasing the Ioniq 5 this year which is supposed to have around a 342-350 mile (550-563 Km) range. Hopefully, the Ioniq 5 isn't too expensive.
Wow this is SO exciting to see an actual fast charging network in America. I can't wait to try it out on a road trip in my future Kona
(Long and rabeling as I just got home from this trip. Just stream of thoughts.) I live in FL almost as far south as Marco where he (Out of Spec Motoring) visited. I bought my Kona Limited in Maryland outside of DC while visiting family. My wife and I drove back separately. The trip went mostly well. She made better time than I did. I was "lucky" in that most of the network where I was driving was in limited power mode so no charging over 50kw but that also defaults to the lowest price tier. There was one charger in Forsyth GA that had a different manufacturer and it was not power limited. As noted in the video my Kona never showed on the screen anything above 74kw and then it dropped down to 68 or 69kw. They bumped me up to the middle tier pricing (+75 - 150kw) and it was double at $16 where I usually paid $6 - $8. EA needs to address this issue. If not I wish Hyundai would allow us to set a max kW in the car software. I don't take many road trips so it's not an issue as much with me but we need to all be vocal about it as there are not many of us out there with Konas and Niros.
Overall the car was excellent on my trip. I did miss the adaptive cruise control on the highway that we have on our other car a Subaru Forester. I couldn't justify the extra cost of the Ultimate trim Kona for that one feature.
Android Auto worked well. I didn't miss not having the integrated navigation. It's hard to beat google maps and waze if you are already familiar with them.
Lane keeping assistant on max works well but it felt like it was keeping me slightly to the right. Fine for two lane roads but for highways I often felt like I was fighting it to keep my car in the middle of the lane when cars were on my right side.
@@jobney Ah cool I really want to try and drive my future Kona or Model 3 or Kia Stinger EV (that's my dream car if they ever build it) from where I live now in Alabama back to my hometown in Anchorage, Alaska, it would be so epic and would be such a fun adventure, hope I can someday. It's technically possible according to plug share but requires a lot of slow charging at RV parks in B.C. and Yukon. Also can't wait to try out the electrify america stations. Just crazy to see these in America, so used to only seeing a reliable fast charging network in Europe (Bjorn Nyland)
We drove from Langley, BC (Vancouver) to Issaquah, WA (Seattle) and back up to Mount Vernon, WA, a total of 325 km or 201 miles. We had enough umph to get home (422km/262mi), but we had to do side trips along I-5 to Bellingham and Lynden and did not wish to push it. Our next trip will be over the BC Rockies to Merritt (230km/143mi) up a long stretch of 10% grades or Kamloops (313km/194mi). Fortunately they have chargers in those cities and at the top of the pass after the long climbs. We will see. Enjoyed your video completely. Bring a good book I say.
Have fun! !!! From surey bc.
Hi From Abbotsford, BC. Let us know how the trip goes and any tips you discovered on the way. Especially with running AC on these hot days combined with the climb over the Coquihalla.
We drove our 2019 TM3 SR+ from Calgary AB to Victoria BC and back about 3 weeks ago. Except for waiting for a supercharger spot to open up at Kamloops BC as it was full with another Tesla waiting(Tesla this week added 2 more spots).We missed the 9am ferry as it was full,We got on 10am ferry(Last car) My wife drove from Hope BC supercharger to around Merritt BC,She didn't want to use cruise as the speed limit is 120kmh and didn't want to drive that fast,I looked over and she was driving 130-145kmh.We easily made it to Kamloops BC supercharger from Hope BC it was +37c Road trips are a breeze in a Tesla.
Kyle. I commend you on a top class video and test of the Kona EV. Apart from Bjorn Nyland and yourself most test presentations of this vehicle on RUclips are total rubbish, especially from actual owners ! You’ve won a like and subscribe from me without hesitation. Many thanks for a terrific upload. Outstanding. 👍
Thank you for the awesome comment! Definitely more to come... - Kyle
Having a Kona 2020 on my shopping list made this road trip an exceptionally good learning experience in terms of estimating variability in performance. Thank you.
Thanks for this great video. It is videos like yours that has helped me to have the confidence to buy this superb car. I bought a Kona Electric in 2020 and I have been enjoying it for the last 4 years. Thanks again!
Kyle, we really enjoyed riding along with you on the Kona EV road trip. Great 👍 information, entertaining visuals, and a wonderful experienced perspective. Looking forward to your next road trip already!
My goodness! I've done 5800 miles of interstate road trips in my Tesla Model 3 over the past year with a total of 36 Supercharger stops. I had only one charger perform poorly (San Antonio, TX). Tesla's estimated time of arrival and state of charge predictions are within 1%. No range anxiety at all. Only once did I arrive a charger with less than 15% SoC. I can't imagine going through what you did on this trip.
Bought the 2021 … I have had it for 4 months now and loving it!
Great segment. It give people a great glimpse at what goes into owning an EV. Production notes: Having a lav mic on would help with the sound issues as the directional mic's only pick up what they are pointing too and you don't run the risk of your thumb covering the built in mic port on the camera itself.
I'd leave the graphics up a second longer as I was finding the gfx disappear before I had a chance to finish reading it. And an over all recount of the trip to sum it all up would have put it all together for me. ... you know the TL:DR ??? Cheers
Thanks for the feedback, we are learning as we go and have some great new audio gear to use for future projects.
Thank you for this video. You've persuaded me to make the Kona Electric our household's next second car (our present everyday car = 2018 Nissan LEAF SV w/40 kWh battery, which has been wonderful). Now, if only it would be sold in a CARB non-compliant state...
Nice video, as a european (Brit) is easier to appreciate just how big the USA is by watching videos like this..Thanks.
Watching this video, 3 years later, & one of your first comments is the EA chargers seem to be buggy is eerily prescient.
"This is a longer video that we would normally make".. 2 years later and I'm thinking, "35 mins? This is a short one"
So true!
I have a Tesla and I had no idea how much difference there was between Teslas and other EVs when taking a road trip
Huge! The crazy thing is I could not have done this trip 2 months ago while most of the Electrify America stations were being built. With a Tesla, I do this trip often, it’s a breeze and has been for years! Vertical integration on Teslas part makes the cars so seamless to use. Have to give them tons of props for that!
Amen to that! I bought my Model 3 for commuting but find it much better for road trips than ICE. Big Auto needs to partner and standardize and improve DCFC networks or else Tesla will dominate the EV space and put them out of business.
Matthew Cho just drove 731 miles today in my model 3. It’s my go-to roadtrip car
Agreed for the road trips. Both Ben and Kyle have Model 3’s as road trip cars. Kyle has been back and forth between CT and FL 3 times in the past couple months in the Model 3 and going again next week to see the falcon heavy launch... easy as cake!
I am new to EV (thinking of buying a 2020 Kona) what makes the road trip easier with a Tesla?
Thanks for the cool video. The state of chargers is why I still drive a Volt. It WILL get sorted out as EV's are the future. The Kona seems rock-solid, but I'm waiting for the Niro EV, VW ID line, Volvo XC40 EV, and the Model Y before I dump my CR-V second car.
Wow, amazing road test you just did for the Kona. Thanks for sharing. 👍
How cool to see you in Port Charlotte, that Charge station is about 3 minutes from my house!
Awesome video! Thanks for sharing. Love the Kona, but sad to see EA is having issues 😭
Really useful video. For me you needed to recharge too often, at not always reliable charging stations. Its good that someone is pioneering this technology, because one day I shall adopt it. But not yet.
Would love to see your perspective on the Kona now, with all your charging knowledge in hand.
Great video! I wouldn't be surprised if the petrochemical industry is running a covert sabotage operation against EV charging stations. Love my 2022 Kona.
Kyle, Great video. How can you tell the 150Kw chargers from the 350kw chargers at a glance? The Kona proved that it was a solid trip car. Public fast charger is still a little weak for the masses (as you stated in the video). I think if a spouse was on the trip the stress level caused by the range anxiety would have been significant. Also it would have been good to have a summary that shows what time you left and what time you arrived at Marco Island so that we can calculate the average trip MPH. In my ice car I often average 60 mph. In other EV videos the average (with charging included) is closer to 50 mph.
Also since the GOM was consistently wrong and lead to range anxiety and for the time being long distance travel by a non Tesla EV requires careful planning and thinking, why not use the actual kWh per mile for your driving style >300 wh/m? So if you are at the charger and it has added 30kWh you know you can go 100 miles. Or working backwards if the next charger is 150 miles away you need at least 45kWh in the pack? If I was traveling in a Kona with a wife and teenagers I would be doing that math.
Thank you! Pulling into EA stations I would look at the rated output under the dispenser handle. Also I agree, this trip would have been aggravating for passengers not interested in charging “for fun”. EVs that can charge fast to 80%+ such as the E-Tron and others coming will likely help with this problem.
Apologies for not having a total summary of trip time and speed, I should have logged all of that but didn’t. Will do so for next trip (likely in a Bolt!)
I was actually doing that math for the later stops, you’ll notice no close calls after the first day. I didn’t include that in the video as I thought it may have been too hard for people to grasp that concept... We’ll see if the viewers want more technical breakdowns like us, I’m happy to provide that for the next trip.
In reference to the two times I cut it close, the first was on my first leg with the car, having never driven it more than 3 miles. Didn’t know what to expect for efficiency. The second time I calculated it based off a wrong consumption figure... I had been in traffic all day and figured I needed to account for higher consumption but at speed the Kona really uses a lot more power than I originally anticipated. The highway consumption is almost 30-40% higher than when in the city which is a bigger difference than I’ve seen with the Teslas. Part of this is likely due to its ride height and it can benefit from up to 150kW regen when slowing down (massive amount I know) which I wasn’t doing cruising down the highway.
Thanks for watching and the comment, hope to see you soon!
@@OutofSpecMotoring You know that's something I wonder about on a road trip... Do you really want to use high regen? I get regen in city traffic, or a route with alot of elevation changes, but when road tripping in Florida for instance (flat) wouldn't low regen be better for range? I'm thinking letting the car coast down minor grades would get you better range. Something for you to test maybe.
No need to test, it’s absolutely more efficient to coast and increase speed rather than using regen and then accelerating. However, if you have to slow down for traffic etc then regen is much better than using friction brakes. I’ve been in situations where I’ve had to eek out every last Wh of energy and I’ve neutral coasted down hills. Anytime you’re “charging” the battery, either from regen or at a station, there’s going to be losses
@@OutofSpecMotoring say more about neutral coasting, I've yet to do that.
They should Rename Electrify America.. to Volkswagen's Revenge 😂🤣
Nobody worried by the static the camera captured when charging?
Getting my Kona Electric this thursday.
Just after confirming the appointment, learned about the reason my colleague was absent: the plug of his homecharger had melted to the car's Chargeport. He has the Ionic.
Not worried at All; I don't have a homecharger 🤔😶
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Forgot about this post until it got a like; thank you!
Turned out the plug attached to the homechargercable was not up to spec. So nothing wrong without the car; it was the homecharger that was causing this!
T. Bakker Do you mean the waviness on the car’s screen that was visible? If so, that is a moire patterned caused by the pixel size on the car screen interacting with the pixel pattern on the camera’s charge coupled device. It is not static electricity.
Awesome video & a lot of great information…thanks! Just took my first day-trip with the Kona this past weekend…about 260 miles round trip. Charged up just once for about 25 minutes just for a little buffer on the NJ Turnpike. Looking forward to many more long-distance trips with this great little car. Although for the most part we’ve only done local driving, I haven’t experienced the wild swings in range with the GOM that you have. The GOM was within 5 miles during this weekend’s trip, but it was a dry day, with a relatively conservative driving style. It’s something I’ll certainly keep an eye on, especially with the dramatic changes in elevation in my area…NY, NJ, CT.
22:41 I wonder if the rain/humidity is messing with either the cabinet or the terminals. I'm thinking back to another time an EA station was down during the rain, but that had another variable - updating.
I'd just like to point out that 72% of the 415km range the Kona is rated for is 299km, and you got 305km on that first leg, so that's right in line with the range it should be getting. Definitely sucks to have the unpleasant surprise of a 50km (30mi) buffer fall to 5km (3 mi), but my best guess would be because of the highway speed you are travelling at. Thanks for making the vid; I have a Kona on order
This guy maths.
Loved the video! Hilarious that you had to remove the radar detector going through Virginia. I live here and we’re the only state with no radar detectors allowed.
I believe it’s Virginia and Hawaii that don’t allow them!
@@OutofSpecMotoring If you eer holiday in Australia, don't bring one with you. Illegal in all states.
I've been poking around to see real world DC charging speeds of cars that use the same basic technology as the Chevy Bolt, and I was amused to hear you say three years ago that Electrify America is kind of buggy. Things have not changed much. :-)
21:25 Those Efacec chargers have been causing a lot of problems. Hopefully, they can fix or replace them soon. Out in the west, we mostly have ABB, BTC, and Signet, which for the most part have been solid. ABB has some issues with older GM EVs, and BTC might have some issues with Honda's CCS vehicles. But that's about it. No major failures like Efacec.
Can you keep us posted on the EA Kona issue? I bought my Kona Electric early this month, the first one sold in Colorado thanks to ZEV! After leaving the dealer and fast charging on a EA from 20% to 90% to make it home 240 miles away I spend $45 on that one charge. This being my first EV I thought I did something wrong... thanks for the videos iv watched a lot of them! I’m taking the Kona on a work trip in October from Montrose CO to Las Vegas NV 1400 mile round trip. I hope the EA network will be fixed by then as there is no other fast chargers to use out west along my route.
I got low in a Zoe - I had to use the dongle to see how much range I had left! I got there on 1% on the battery -the display was actually shutting off!
So, Electrify America has similar problems here as Ionity in Europe (the same network, essentially) does, at least with Bjorn's Tesla 3.
I-85 to Henderson is always a tight trip for me. And I used to do that before EA in a 2018 Leaf 😅
10:18 hi. What is that mean, charging machine each color?
Tomas Kim on the left side of each charger. The first two are green, so they work. The third from the left is red, so it’s offline. The one he has the car plugged in is blue, which means charging
The most important thing i observed is no car considers uphill (what a mess ) but it's best to keep 15% extra just in case thanks for the info 👌
Tesla onboard navigation/trip planner DOES take elevation into account, and is extremely accurate. You can see the downhill gains on the Trip planner energy page (actual vs estimated).
ABetterRoutePlanner.com GREAT website does too and also can take weather, rain, temps, headwinds into account (entered manually) along w/ multiple stops, exact pricing and charge stop times.
Regarding the Kona, I would like to see you test the Auto-Regen setting; how it works and why it exists. Also, I would like to hear you explain the paddle shifters and how they let you choose regen levels from 0-3; when to use each etc... seems like added value above Tesla offering for regen. Post a quick vid perhaps on the Out of Spec Channel?
After a month of Kona driving, I always choose max paddle regen charging/braking. Why? Because the paddle won't brake as hard as the foot brake. I set cruise, and when I am coming to a stop I lower the cruise speed in anticipation, then let the car brake (only if I have a car stopped in front of me, not turning). Doing that I rarely use the paddles.
Can't believe you don't get as much juice as you can so you have a buffer just in case. I put a lot of miles on my 2018 Soul EV and have never come so close as you have to running out. I only have 105 to 125 miles of range. My longest trip has only been 500 miles. I just stop more frequently but it takes less time to charge to 93% with a smaller battery.
this video made me want to buy the handai kona EV!!
To answer your question why those caps are on the charger ports: turned out that putting the charger in front means that in wintertime water/snow gets in the ports and ices up! Then you can't get your charger in. Watch Tesla Bjorn's channel: he found out the hard way!
Did you not stay at a hotel at all? Csn you talk about how you plan your sleep and charge time for long trips? I imagine a L2 would fit nicely into the mix when sleeping.
I’m a Stamfort CT resident and travel sometimes between here and Western KY. I would love an EV, but I worry about the availability of chargers along the way.
In a Tesla that is a very easy trip to make. Plug share is a great website that maps out all the chargers and should help put your mind at ease. it is very important to remember how rapidly electric vehicle infrastructure is expanding. 6 months from now it will be better and in a year or two it will be almost a non-issue.
Electrify America - had to have customer service reboot the charging pump. Once rebooted it worked fine.
For a minute I was like "an extra hour to charging...man, maybe I'll just stick with plug in hybrids".
Than I remembered: I'm probably going to retire around 2060. If we do nothing to mitigate global warming, people of my generation get to look forward to retiring in a world where only the most valuable costal cities that can afford expensive levie systems don't have to be abandoned. Where I get to look forward to eating tofu algae burgers in a studio apartment with a view of acid bleached scrubland that used to be farms.
EVs have MUCH lower lifetime emissions than gas vehicles. When you realize the choice you're making is to spend more time enjoying the scenery or destroying it, it's not that hard of a choice.
I brought my 2020 Kona EV in for a software update for recall 199, "reduced braking power". I dropped the car off 07/15/2021 at 9 a.m. in the morning. Over 30 hours later the car is still in the shop. Unfortunately, Hyundai didn't invest in over the air update technology, which means owners of Hyundai EVs have to schedule maintenance appointments for software updates. Then after dropping the car off they have to wait for a technician to get around to it. Keep in mind the service center is also working on ICE cars as well so it might take a day, two, or three to get your EV back. I totally regret buying this car. Don't make the same mistake. Look at the other competitors, Tesla, GM, Ford, and so on.
I'm new to the EV party and I'm trying to figure out what would be best for me - EV vs PHEV. Does it bug you to make stops that last at least an hour each? Seems it would make a trip SO much longer!
U ARE 👉 *THE GUY* 👈 FOR REVIEWING a "EV-car"👍💪
glad i found you..compering whit what u know for fact(Tesla) and not only numbers!
If you use the cars navigation system will it give you a more accurate mileage on how far the car will make it? Not sure if the cars navigation system accounts for hills and turns and whatnot.
Great video. What was total driving time and total charging time?
It would be very interesting to know the price paid for charging calculated per travelled mile and recalculated to compare to the same gasoline size vehicle paid for the same trip.
Fun fact. In my country (and the surrounding ones) "filling up" your tesla/EV costs more than filling up a gas tank.... And dont let me start on the chargers infrastructure. In some cases you have a charger but it doesnt get enough power.
NYC!!!! GWB in the first 2 minutes!
Hi guys, Have you guys done any charging cost comparison between this car vs Tesla for this trip? I just wonder if in the long run the tesla based car would be worth the extra cost & hassle that you have to deal with other brands? I really appreciate your comments! thanks guys great review
For all of your videos you should include the $ for each charge and the total for your road trips. I have a Kia Nero EV, I purchased it because I have a 80 mile daily commute and I charge FREE at work. Not sure it makes sense to do road trips considering the cost of rapid DC fast charging and the time you waste.
I hope to see a video on the 2020 kia niro ev.
This is an interesting and informative video, but it doesn't do much to cure range anxiety!
Two questions. Why don’t you charge to closer to 80% each time and why do you drive so fast? Too much range anxiety for me.
So glad I went with Toyota Corolla Cross AWD hybrid instead of BEV😅 so long as I stay below 70+MPH freeway I average 60+ MPG
It's funny because the state of chargers in this video, especially EA, is the same as it is today 3 years later.
I just started watching your video's. I have become very intrigued with the EV. I currently drive a dodge 3500 4x4 diesel 6.7 ltr dually long bed & use it for work. I P/U travel trailers in Indiana from the manufacturer & deliver them to the dealerships. I am gonna subscribe & hit notification button & hope you do a E-Tron long trip video soon. Also when it comes out the Tesla Y which I am sure you are interested in that vehicle to test. Thanks for the great content.
I am curious why you didn't you use the app "a better route planner"? It seems like it would have been perfect for this road trip.
I actually use that app all the time. But for this one I wanted to get in the Kona, a car I had never driven before. And then head out on this big trip with no knowledge of if I’d make it or not. I seriously didn’t even look at plugshare until I was on the road. It was going to be representative of someone heading on a trip but that theme died when I was editing this together. Thanks for the comment though, I love a better route planner!
@@OutofSpecMotoring Fair enough, I was just curious is all. Kona looks like a great vehicle. I convinced a buddy of mine on the west coast of Canada to get one. They have pretty decent charging infrastructure out there.
@@gusbarber00 Langley BC needs more chargers. Charging in BC can be a strategic wait. The I-5 corridor from WA to CA is packed with chargers as is Bellevue/Redmond (Microsoft land) I-405.
@@stevewallace1117 Take a look at the situation around Calgary. It is pretty bleak once outside the city. There is some on hwy2 going north. There is a bunch being installed South East of here but they wont be all on line till the end of the year or so.
BC is adding 98 chargers before the end of the year.
I haven’t seen a single Kona or Niro EV in Raleigh. None of the dealers have any to test drive either.
I am going back and forth on getting a Kona or Model 3. Considering the expiring tax incentives, is it ultimately worth it to get the Tesla? Or should I get the Kona and enjoy the savings, but risk feeling unfulfilled? Those back seats are really tight, regardless of the savings.
Get the Model 3 if ride height ins't a concern
Hi Kyle, receiving my Kona EV any day now watching all of these vids with great interest so thanks! Curious question: SHOCK Anxiety (rather than Range anxiety) ;-) You were charging at a couple of stations in the South IN THE RAIN (particularly the one that kept timing out)... Any special instructions for that? Wear rubber soled shoes?... make sure your grounded?... dont lick the plug socket?... That just seems like an accident waiting to happen.
Charging in the rain is no problem. You actually can lick the plug socket, as no high power ever flows through until it's connected with the car and the handle is locked in. Enjoy driving electric!
@@OutofSpecMotoring of course: silly of me.
Can you do new Kia Niro, Hyundai Kona, new hybrid Sportage. Would be nice.
Excellent video, but PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, mention charge speeds in Kilowatts next time. Using either amps or volts is confusing, since you need both of them to figure out the actual charging power. Thanks.
Okay, I replied too quickly. You only did that during your first charging session, thankfully. I shouldn't have yelped so quickly. 😉 Thanks again for trying this out and overcoming multiple bouts of range anxiety to make this video for us!
Is range the most important thing for an ev?
Hej friend! Thank you for your nice informative videos. I happen to have a kona ev here in Stockholm Sweden. My problem is that the 12volts battery of the car discharged and left me helpless without been able to move the car even a mm, only one year after I had bought it new. Do you have any suggestions on how to prevent it from happening again?
Thank you for your time and in advance for your advice!
A lithium jump starter?
For me, driving 1500 miles in two days is unthinkable. I would limit my driving to 300 miles per day at most. My only motive for taking a long road trip is touring, not self-punishment. I'll see how it goes when my I4-M Sport 40 comes in next month. The last really long road trip I did was coast to coast in 1967.
I’d be interested in the cost of charging vs comparable cost of gas at these various chargers.
Video coming soon, subscribe to stay updated!
Hi Kyle, I saw you had a Tesla wall connector, and a j1772 adapter. I saw that you ran it beneath the garage door. Is that safe? (I have the same thing, and don't want to pinch or kink the cord)
Depends on your garage door. Mine's old and leaves a gap about as wide as the wire :P
Ok, what was the total bill you were charged for the trip? Also, it feels like you are tethered to this system. Kind of a bummer.
Steve Watson ruclips.net/video/A4LpeGYGVew/видео.html
Steve Watson approx $83 one way is what Kyle says in the video of the cost analysis...
What were the charging, total costs either one way or whole trip?
Bummer about the unreliable Electrify America stations. I tried three EV trips in my BMW i3-REx via Manchester TN and only two successfully charged. Worse, with EVgo and Electrify America, EV travel cost 3-4x gas and the BMW uses premium.
Here are the costs ruclips.net/video/A4LpeGYGVew/видео.html
If you're stuck, can AAA come and charge you on the spot?
Thanks for this Kona EV video I been really curious about this car and your long trip makes it seem like it was a very good car to maybe own , one thing else, if the base kona EV is $37,000, what is the base model 3, and which is best for a newbe in the EV world ?
Can you charge at tesla with your tesla adapter
You are cutting it way too close. No need to run on fumes. Yes, the charging is faster then, but is it worth the range anxiety?
Electrify America, brought to you by VW. The same thing is called Ionity in Europe. The Chargers are so buggy because the VW software engineers included the standard emission fraud software package they are in the habit of including with every product. Moreover, those chargers with software provided by the performance department are excessively loud.
Why the hate? If it wasn't for Electrify America our national eletric charging network would be way behind.
@@fpartidafpartida It is way behind. A year has past since I made this comment and I think things might eventually be turning for the better. But then again...
Since it been about a year now would you say that the reliability of electrify america has improved?
Yes, but still not perfect
Thanks for the video on the long trip. How accurate is the GOM to what you get?
The GOM wasn’t entirely accurate. In a mixed style of driving it’s going to be even worse off... the Kona has incredible city range partially due to its immense 150kW regen under hard braking. On the highway you don’t brake therefore you will have significantly less range than in the city, as well as for other reasons. The GOM doesn’t know where you will be driving therefore it estimates based off of your previous history. If you were driving in traffic all morning and then start ripping it down the highway, it takes quite a bit of time to catch up... but when it does it drops hard. After the first day I used my own math to calculate range based on my personal predicted efficiency.
I'm curious to know if the headlights were an issue seeing/driving at night. The headlight design concerns me.
They have a really nice wide spread and travel quite far into the distance (aside from the weird void towards the left side which you’ll see in the video... likely to not blind oncoming traffic) but they aren’t super bright. In the US we have strict regulations on headlight output so it could be limited for our market, it feels like the LEDs have more to give. I would say you’re not going to miss seeing anything with them, not a deal breaker, and they’re much better than a lot of cars, but it feels like they should be 30% brighter.
@@OutofSpecMotoring I have a Toyota 2012 Camry ... the Kona headlights are much brighter.
Hey, Jorge from Stamford Hyundai here. Great Blog! Wondering if the high beam assist was of any help during the bad weather? Any comments on that?
Hi Jorge! The high beam assist was good on back roads. On the highway it would trigger on and off flashing oncoming traffic. Almost every system I’ve tested does this same thing. Great on single back roads but in urban or highway environments, it gets confused. I ended up switching the headlights out of auto to “on” to disable this feature on the highway... I‘ve done the same with other brands too, nothing specific to Hyundai. The Kona EV is really an incredible car. The second best EV (only to Tesla) factoring in cost at this point I’d say! Value for money is huge.
@@OutofSpecMotoring Since I cannot afford a Tesla. I got a Kona EV. I agree, the value for the money is huge. I will only get a Tesla if the price drops.
I would like to know how much time did you spend on each charging station. Thank you!
He puts up a graphic after each charge telling you how long he stayed at each charger.
Out of all the non Tesla and non exotic EV cars, do you think the kona is the best one?
Thanks for the video. What was your total time spent charging and hope much did it cost? That's the big questions I have.
Video coming this week on that. Stay tuned!
Is the Kona EV available in all 50 states as of May 22nd?
If you just buy one out of state and drive it, yes
So local dealers can service it?
15:35 it does.. you are looking in the wrong place! 1hr 43 to full - that's all it will tell you.
Damn! Almost 4 hours to go 190mi? Eesh. I’m used to driving about 2:15 to go to portland and that’s about 145mi away. Hmm sorta nervous about going electric if that means longer in time road trips.
But thank you for making this video bc I travel roughly 800 mi a day on a single trip when doing road trips so this helped me see a real world view of what an affordable ev can handle.
Many people price an EV on the sticker price. In the long run, I believe that the infrastructure of working charging stations and the availability of them make the Tesla a clear choice if you plan to travel with your EV. Hopefully Electrify America and the other charging businesses can get up and running to give potential EV customers more choices. After all, more choices gives the American consumer a wider range of electric cars with the end game of eliminating polluting gas cars.
Or Tesla can start using CCS and stop this proprietary plug nonsense
Can u charge on Tesla Superchargers using the adapters?
No, just wall connectors and UMCs
Would you recommend the Kona Ultimate over the Model 3?
Unless you need the trunk space or the ride height of the Kona, the Model 3 is a better car... it also has the supercharger network which is extremely robust in comparison to public charging. If you’re waiting for the Model Y for the ride height as many people are, the kona is a great choice as it is here now!
You will be laughing all the way to the bank for having an ev !!!!! Good luck friend .! from surrey bc.
dont kid yourself. with the premium you pay for an ev you could have paid for gas for a regular car for 100-200k miles. and no hassle travel, no outrageous cost battery replacement, and now they charge more to plate because your not paying gas tax... dont get me wrong, i am a ev fan. but to think its going to save you $ is not correct.
Not sure if you meant to do it but my enthusiasm for ev just got zapped watching the vid. So much ranged anxiety on your trip...2%...3%...faulty stations. I’m sticking with gas for now.
Great Video! As you know I almost went Tesla and like the EV idea. This is a great demonstration of thought process on EV roadtrips!
I'm liking my Honda Clarity PHEV... All electric around town...
nice