ANTARES Argentina 🇦🇷 ❤ What an absolutely lovely interview. Such a difference when talking to a sailing captain as well as an owner of a very solid catamaran creating, designing and building. I studied this company and they are as friendly and passionate as seen here. In a word Genuine, enthusiasm intellect and passionate about optimum safety and quality.
Hello folks, Canada here. Good walk through with Mark. I have followed Mark and his family RUclips channel since they started posting. Antares evolved from the original PDQ made here in Canada. The Antares people have taken the original boat way beyond it's origins. If I had the dough I wouldn't be sittin' here. I would be on my Antares 44 someplace hot and wet ! Anyway have fun, stay healthy, stay safe, and READ ALL the FINE print on the INSURANCE POLICIES.
Once again a very interesting boat about which you have given a great review. Thanks. The rain water collecting system looks great too. I may have missed it but I didn't see that there was provision to discharge the first few minutes of collected water overboard to reduce salt (from salt spray) entering the water tanks. Such diversion and redirection is easy to automate. Good to hear that your insurance claim is progressing even if progress is slow. All the best and keep safe. Happy boat hunting.
Thanks Des. Yes there is a valve to divert the first rain water overboard and then into the tanks through a filter when you are happy. And hopefully the insurance will come good soon!
it s really good to hear that there is a some sort of a progress with the insurance claim. i truly hope that everything in that side will be over soon..
Thanks Techie, getting our insurance payout would be good and then the next step is for the different insurance companies to sort their liabilities so we can get insurance in the future.
@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 ah i never thought about the second half of the insurance claim. it s way more complicated than i thought. but i really hope everything will be ok..
I really loved this boat! I have no problem with galley down, in fact, I feel like it gives the cook/chef a better arrangement. The rounded corners are a big plus in my mind since I can trip over a fart! LOL I like how much comes with the basic package too. Now if it just had the follow-up services like the Exquisite, I'd be completely sold.
Thanks for the comments again Diane! So many boats ,all with different upsides so the issues is always the weight each person puts on the different aspects...
This boat looks like it would suit what you want. I hope to see you in one soon. I have a very old Catalac 12M and when I upgrade, Antares looks like the one for me too.
Thanks Howard. Yes it does tick many boxes and their electrical system is very exciting. We are still looking to get more things ticked off and are keen to have shallow draft and the ability to beach the boat as that is so useful in places esp like the Florida Cays, Bahamas and Australia....
Really enjoyed the tour I may never be able to purchase a Million $ boat but you did a wonderful job the cabinetry was beautiful with all the rounded corners. See you next week.
Thank you so much for what you do for those of us that have an interest sailing. I found this video to be informative, educational and fun to watch. However, more than that it is so nice to see you two and your persona in full bloom. I always look forward to your videos and to hear your happy voices.
Another very nice boat, I'm glad it's you guys that have to make the final choice, I'd be pulling my hair out! lol Hope all the insurance woes are sorted very soon. Take care & safe travels, enjoy!
In my opinion this is the safest and overall best live aboard catamaran. I feel that they have thought through everything so carefully and are not looking to just make money. Shaft drives are just one of many features that indicate the level of robustness and safety behind the planning of this boat.
Well it's good to hear that the insurance is going to pay out. And that boat you were just looking at is really a beautiful laid out boat that would be a nice boat for you there sounds like a good boat and the inside looks beautiful rounded corners would be nice nothing worse than a sharp edge bruising you or breaking your arm. Anyway I wish you luck on finding a good boat that you want and be safe both of you and God bless can't wait to see you with a new boat I'm excited just waiting so take care out there. Watching from Roseville California USA Ray Garrett
@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 well I'm happy for you don't give up hope you're blessing will be right around the corner soon I'm just excited to see you launch a boat and get out there and make some more exciting videos I enjoy watching your content you both are good people that was sad that you lost your other boat and your personal belongings but I had to start over before a few times myself I know how it feels you're not alone on that but you had a lot more to lose than I did but I wish you both well stay safe God bless you both
Love the beautiful Brazilian woodwork and the floors! I could definitely live with the galley down and was impressed with the refrigerator and freezer. The windows were nice and big giving you great vision of all four corners. Very impressed with the placement of the engines and for the price it was nice to see what’s included that other companies consider options. On the negative side, I felt the master cabin was small and placement of bed appeared cumbersome. The bathroom seemed very tight. I would definitely keep this catamaran on my short list and perhaps you will get fortunate enough to get a “test” ride on the water! Thank you for the tour 😊
Yes thanks Mango for your input again. Indeed because the boat is narrower overall (21 ft beam) and narrow hulls, you do lose volume which results in the features you describe. This is what I would consider to a classic style boat while some of the other designs have overcome these limitations in various ways eg wider hulls (slower performance), lower bridgedeck (slamming), athwartship cabins, higher deck lines (but more windage) and flaring of the hull above the waterline (increased buoyant when nose diving)...
Good to see you two doing so well. I like the protected rudders and normal shaft drives. There are so many things out floating in the ocean these days one must consider safety. The glass-enclosed cockpit is great as it stays clear. There seems to be a bunch of improvements since Ruby Rose review 2 years ago. Thanks.
Very nice boat! Just for the record, Sailing Uma is a fully electric boat that they have been sailing for 5 or 7 years right up to the Arctic circle. They have a standby generator in case of emergencies but otherwise they operate by sail and electric motor. If you haven't done so, look them up - amazing couple.
Regarding Sailing Uma they also did an interview/review on a Salona who build a completely electric monohull. It uses a saildrive type drive that generates while sailing. I have surveyed a Salona 40 diesel (notice-I am a surveyor) and they are pretty nice but if I were looking at cats for myself the Antares would have my intention. I have also surveyed an Antares-Nice boat. Tom Eckhardt
@@krismartin1181 The Antares Cat I surveyed was a 42 and hull #1-they made it a 44 later. I have looked at a few PDQ products over the years and am always impressed. The only thing I don't love is the engine placement as far as noise is concerned-But I will live with that to have straight inboard as I do not like sail drives even more. If I went that route it would not be the hybrid, it would be straight electric that would charge while under way.
Great overview thanks. Its a bit like the Amel of catamarans isn't it....rock solid and incredibly well built. In my view if they could built a galley up and more modern interior colours and designs, they would probably tenfold their sales.
It looked like a really nice however I really liked the boat last week better. Just seemed to be a better cruiser. Sounds like the insurance is taking their sweet time. Hope it works alright in the end!
Thanks John. Yes the cogs of bureaucracy are slow but they also want invoices only so trying to find invoices for clothes and personal effects that are 1-3 years old is difficult...
Thanks again Gus for your support. Obviously Antares is the traditional design without front cockpit or flybridge but benefits in other ways. It all comes down to individual preference as we were saying in the tour... We are deliberately not saying if one better thananotherand letting viewers make their own Choice based on their preference.
nice that it self , very good catamaran well layout for short and long trips suit would suit most ..the look of it is very good hope you get god from your ins /group for last 55
Am a big fan of the traditional way of shaft drive. Not a big fan of sail drives, they seem unreliable and hard to service. It seems a really nice boat.
Another great walkaround/review, just a quick check on lbs/kgs of the genenerator versus loading. How do you guys' feel about the bed situations vis a vis the lack of disturbing your partner/exit of whole width hull beds versus the ease of island beds on your previous leopard?
Thanks Mark for your continued support! Yes you are right about the lack of side access in beds - this makes making the beds more difficult (as you have to make it while kneeling on it) and have to shuffle to the bottom of the bed to get off, instead of rolling to the side. Performance boats will commonly have some of the cabins like that because of the narrow hulls and it is something you usually just have to put up with until to go to a bigger boat (eg 50 footer) or very wide hulls and slower performance like a Lagoon.... The choice of convince / comfort / performance options again..... Personally we have got used to climbing off the beds without sides but making the bed is a bigger pain from our side. Hope that helps.
Very good boat. The hulls are around 44 feet in length and quite wide so the low length to width ratio (coupled with a small sail area) makes these boats fairly slow (comparatively). However, they are very durable and sea-worthy. The greatest attributes; however, are underwater. Safety! The Antares has a shaft drive protected by a keel as well as a skeg mounted rudder. All boats (mono-hull and catamaran) should have these, but amongst catamarans, the Antares stands alone. The major downside with Antares? They are expensive! As I write this, there are 2 used for sale at Rhumb Line Yacht Sales and 1 in Phuket Thailand.
Thanks Paddy - yes I only mentioned the protection to the rudder and not the prop but mini keels do protect the props as you say and this is a great safety feature!
Cap I think you're not looking close enough at the hull shape under the water. Their hulls are very narrow under the water thanks to their low weight. Sail plan is "small" because low drag doesn't need big sails to move well. Its the boats with the fat asses that need the big sails. And it's not intended to be a race boat. A cruising family doesn't want to fly a hull. Ever.
Thanks for wAtching Frank. We did the tour about 2 years ago at the Annapolis show Oct 2020 and they are still in business as far as I am aware and I saw a new smaller model being promoted.... Not a lot of info on their site though!
It is amazing that when you purchase insurance it takes an hour or so. You never have to worry about missing a premium payment because the insurance company will repeatedly send you reminders. The reminders for next months premium start the day after you make the payment for this month. Low and behold the time it takes when you make a claim. When you call to get updates you get a very pleasant person telling you "we are working on it and will be done soon". Funny how you get the same response month after month. THE ANTARES, I love the boat. I really don't see any advantage to a hybrid. At best the electric motors gives you a 25 mile range. Well ok to that, but why. Electric cooking is good, no doubt. I happen to like gas, a system that does not depend on anything else. Lithium Ion house bank, proper amount of solar, add a Watt & Sea to that and HELL YES! All the power your little heart desires. Running AC on the house bank mmmmmmmmmm so good. Antares makes a high quality cat. Check the resale values, they are high, much higher than most cats. You two have had so many adventures in the short time you have had your channel it is amazing and bold you continue to march forward with your dreams and desires. Be happy, be safe
Electric motors allow you to anchor and manouver and leave harbours. Most of the time Without disturbing people on board and off or disturbing marine life... a global problem. You dont have to keep stopping and starting your diesels for short runs which is both fuel inefficient and causes premature wear of your motors. Also modern Electric motors are by comparison maintainance free and inherently reliable in themselves with very few moving parts to wear or break. The limited range is more a reflection on this battery bank size and current battery tech. /economics and amount of Solar available...but sailing Uma have been out there for years now. Traditional generators seem to be very heavy underwhelming items compared to aviation apu's and modern high output alternators systems.🤔 I would suggest someone is going to have to rethink their whole design approach very soon. The other point is E motors that regen under sail mean you can operate free of diesel .. sailing FF.ICE power especially in remote locations brings its own problems with fuel quality and availability. Thats now; within the next 3-8yrs you are going encounter rapid legislative and directed technical shifts world wide. Before anyone argues contrary remember its the very places a lot of cruisers want to visit and stay are mostly those most vunurable to polution and rising sea levels. You might see 3 or 12 mile Diesel ICE pollution exclusion limits like many city centers put round popular cruising ground locations and marine reserves. Tempus Fugit..success in the face of rapid change favours the most adaptable...
Hey Larry, thanks for your comment and covering several points. Yes, I think everyone has had insurance pain in some way and you are right that they are very quick to charge and very slow to pay. WRT the hybrid, again you can get the boat with or without depending on preference so there is something to suit everyone and I am sure that technology will advance further in elEVs but also possibly in generators are the pressure increases to become lighter and more efficient (like Acs). Thanks for you kind words and yes, our many "adventures"have occurred sometimes without our choice but we are still wanting to live a full and exciting life so plan the best way forwards so our dreams are still ahead of us! Regards.
@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 Insurance and credit rating scores companies .... both potentially as easy to get a grip on as a feeding hagfish. Sailing Dauntless have had a nightmare time with their big salvaged Leopard, rebuild because of the Yard theyve had to work in but thankfully Leopard themselves have been helping and advising on the technical side. Docs i cannot remember but assume the motors on the Antares also run conventional alternators. With Cop26 in Glasgow the Island nations contingent that could afford to make it to the table ....including Trinidad, Mauritius, Seychelles and scatered representatives from Oceanian were making it very clear they are already in difficulties with the current Warming, Storms and Sea level rises ... Logically boat builders and designers are going to have start thinking and working outside of their historic boxes somewhat. If he's still with us 🤞🏻 I bet old James Wharram's eyes are sparkling mischievously if not positively 🔥 incadescent.😉👍🏼⛵
Hey Crystal, thanks for the comment and each boat is what it is... We all just have to decide our own personal priorities. We did enjoy the flybridge esp at night when cruising but it is a luxury that has downsides for weight and reduced sail area / higher boom.
Where did you get the weight numbers from? Looks to me like you have at least one cat off by 10,000 lbs from what I understand to be correct. I’m interested in the info and not trolling or trying to challenge you.
@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 The numbers don't match up for Privilege or Xquisite. Privilege discloses a fully-loaded weight of 55k and X5 46k (X5 only gives unloaded -but I added 11k as Privilege did to come up with the loaded number). And, of course, it is an apple to orange issue since the Antares is 44' and a beam of 22' while both the Privelege and X5 are 50' x 26'. I noticed those two because they along with the Seawind 1600 were my top three finalists before making a purchase. It is also odd that they include a lagoon with a flybridge. The sport top, which is lighter, is closer to the same size as the Antares. Anyway,, I'm enjoying your channel and sorry about your boat.
@@scottb3774 That chart is from a whole video Mark did on performance. The boats selected provided a good cross section. They also provide easily accessible useful information.
Hey Dave, We are reviewing the positive features of each cat and leaving the negatives and our personal preferences out. Clearly the Antares does not have a front cockpit and flybridge and for those that know what we are looking for would understand where our priorities were. If a great boat is so good in other ways that we will sacrifice those preferences, we may... These tours are to give others the qualities and features without egotistically saying one is better than another based on our personal preferences as other people have other preferences. We are still looking as all of them are good with different benefits - "horses for courses"....
@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 well I think you are doing a wonderful job of reviewing these cats , I’m a relatively new subscriber to your channel so I’m not as familiar with your requirements , as most of your viewers, though I find it very interesting and informative. Obviously I’m keen to see you back on the water so I can sail vicariously thru your experiences , as I’m unlikely to get my hands on a cat in this lifetime. 😃🥂
@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 that’s the same mistake the Canadian airliner that ran out of gas and had a glide4 landing at a drag strip made confusing pounds with Kilograms.
I've always liked the design of the Antares but one major fault...One head on the port side. To use it, you have to walk through a cabin...very odd. Other option is to have guests use the owner's suite side which is just as odd.
Yes I was getting confused between pounds and Kg.... Commercial planes have crashed because of that imperial to metric error (mistaking litres for gallons!)!
Can you explain what you mean by that statement please? They seem to think it is part of the 21st C. What was it that you thought was lacking in technological advancement?
Antares are not good. They don’t seem to be building them for average cruisers. No bow thrusters. No redundancy if the systems fail that provide eco cruising. Galley down is a configuration not many enjoy. Most want it up on the main deck aft and to port. The lagoon 50’ is really emphasizing what’s been successful! Taking the 560/620 series features and making them available in the smaller 50’ model.
@@gbsailing9436 The designer had a very informative Blog. The boat is designed for a liveabourd cruising couple or young family to go almost anywhere in the world. Big enough for what most couples want. Small enough to single hand by the weakest member. Guests are rare.
@@mjb2048 Yes I get that. You failed to understand what I said. I WOULD LIKE something around 60ft. I have a big family and lots of friends. Sure they are not going to be there all at the same time, but you would still only get 4 usable double cabins with a 60fter - and a possible Bunk cabin for kids - but you could probably still have a galley down on one side which would mean a much bigger and better saloon to relax in that would fit more people in when the weather is bad and you want to close the doors up.
Antares seem to MASSIVELY understate the weight of the vessel.. There is no way this thing weighs 10,750kg in cruising weight. Especially with the 2x Mains + 1 x Generator + 40Kw of lithium etc etc 5 min of googling says the lightship weights are at least 10,000kg - and considering lightship weights are always quoted with no fitted gear This catamaran HAS to weigh at least another couple of ton above 10,750. probably more like 14-15,000kg.
I enjoy your boat reviews, however if you listen to your reviews of the Antares 44 you say “yah” at least 50 times in the first 10 minutes, to me, it becomes distracting and I needed to stop the video. I’m trying to inform you, not trying to criticize you.
Thanks Lyall for that. Yes the idiosyncrasies like that can be annoying so I will hopefully be able to avoid them in the future (but we have already recorded the other reviews so I will see if I did the same thing). Obviously conversational agreement encourages the other to speak but it does not suit video at all - sorry!
@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 I wasnt trying to be rude about it. I just couldnt hear anything the guy was saying about the Antares boat which I was looking into buying myself. Most people dont realize how their voice over carries others when they are the ones holding the camera.
ANTARES Argentina 🇦🇷 ❤ What an absolutely lovely interview. Such a difference when talking to a sailing captain as well as an owner of a very solid catamaran creating, designing and building. I studied this company and they are as friendly and passionate as seen here. In a word Genuine, enthusiasm intellect and passionate about optimum safety and quality.
Thanks Claris, it easy to interview people that know their stuff and Mark was a fountain of knowledge!
Very nice interview. It captured many of the reasons we love our Antares as liveaboard cruisers!
Thanks guys. we are trying to show all the great features each boat has and Antares has many!
Hello folks, Canada here. Good walk through with Mark. I have followed Mark and his family RUclips channel since they started posting. Antares evolved from the original PDQ made here in Canada. The Antares people have taken the original boat way beyond it's origins. If I had the dough I wouldn't be sittin' here. I would be on my Antares 44 someplace hot and wet ! Anyway have fun, stay healthy, stay safe, and READ ALL the FINE print on the INSURANCE POLICIES.
Thanks for the comment and background info Brien and hope you manage to get out on the water yourself in some way....
Some really good features on this yacht, great interview.
Thanks
Once again a very interesting boat about which you have given a great review. Thanks.
The rain water collecting system looks great too. I may have missed it but I didn't see that there was provision to discharge the first few minutes of collected water overboard to reduce salt (from salt spray) entering the water tanks. Such diversion and redirection is easy to automate.
Good to hear that your insurance claim is progressing even if progress is slow.
All the best and keep safe. Happy boat hunting.
Thanks Des. Yes there is a valve to divert the first rain water overboard and then into the tanks through a filter when you are happy. And hopefully the insurance will come good soon!
Antares is a true Blue water Sailing Cat!
Indeed!
Awesome boat and vedio
Thanks very much. Glad you liked it!
it s really good to hear that there is a some sort of a progress with the insurance claim. i truly hope that everything in that side will be over soon..
Thanks Techie, getting our insurance payout would be good and then the next step is for the different insurance companies to sort their liabilities so we can get insurance in the future.
@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 ah i never thought about the second half of the insurance claim. it s way more complicated than i thought. but i really hope everything will be ok..
I really loved this boat! I have no problem with galley down, in fact, I feel like it gives the cook/chef a better arrangement. The rounded corners are a big plus in my mind since I can trip over a fart! LOL I like how much comes with the basic package too. Now if it just had the follow-up services like the Exquisite, I'd be completely sold.
Thanks for the comments again Diane! So many boats ,all with different upsides so the issues is always the weight each person puts on the different aspects...
This boat looks like it would suit what you want. I hope to see you in one soon. I have a very old Catalac 12M and when I upgrade, Antares looks like the one for me too.
Thanks Howard. Yes it does tick many boxes and their electrical system is very exciting. We are still looking to get more things ticked off and are keen to have shallow draft and the ability to beach the boat as that is so useful in places esp like the Florida Cays, Bahamas and Australia....
Really enjoyed the tour I may never be able to purchase a Million $ boat but you did a wonderful job the cabinetry was beautiful with all the rounded corners.
See you next week.
Yes we all can drool, can't we! I spent about 20 years drooling and slowly progressing through the 25 footer boats upwards....
Thank you so much for what you do for those of us that have an interest sailing. I found this video to be informative, educational and fun to watch. However, more than that it is so nice to see you two and your persona in full bloom. I always look forward to your videos and to hear your happy voices.
Thats very kind of you Peter! Glad it comes across nicely...
Another very nice boat, I'm glad it's you guys that have to make the final choice, I'd be pulling my hair out! lol
Hope all the insurance woes are sorted very soon.
Take care & safe travels, enjoy!
Thanks Tex! Hope everything is going well at your end. How is your project going?
In my opinion this is the safest and overall best live aboard catamaran. I feel that they have thought through everything so carefully and are not looking to just make money. Shaft drives are just one of many features that indicate the level of robustness and safety behind the planning of this boat.
Well it's good to hear that the insurance is going to pay out. And that boat you were just looking at is really a beautiful laid out boat that would be a nice boat for you there sounds like a good boat and the inside looks beautiful rounded corners would be nice nothing worse than a sharp edge bruising you or breaking your arm. Anyway I wish you luck on finding a good boat that you want and be safe both of you and God bless can't wait to see you with a new boat I'm excited just waiting so take care out there. Watching from Roseville California USA Ray Garrett
Thanks Ray. We are being faced with very interesting options so that is great!
@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 well I'm happy for you don't give up hope you're blessing will be right around the corner soon I'm just excited to see you launch a boat and get out there and make some more exciting videos I enjoy watching your content you both are good people that was sad that you lost your other boat and your personal belongings but I had to start over before a few times myself I know how it feels you're not alone on that but you had a lot more to lose than I did but I wish you both well stay safe God bless you both
Great review on a beautiful boat. Stay safe and healthy ⛵️⛵️💕💕
Thanks
Great episode this week 👍
Thanks, glad you liked it.
Great walk throuh.....
Thanks
Love these yachts
Love the beautiful Brazilian woodwork and the floors! I could definitely live with the galley down and was impressed with the refrigerator and freezer. The windows were nice and big giving you great vision of all four corners. Very impressed with the placement of the engines and for the price it was nice to see what’s included that other companies consider options. On the negative side, I felt the master cabin was small and placement of bed appeared cumbersome. The bathroom seemed very tight. I would definitely keep this catamaran on my short list and perhaps you will get fortunate enough to get a “test” ride on the water! Thank you for the tour 😊
Yes thanks Mango for your input again. Indeed because the boat is narrower overall (21 ft beam) and narrow hulls, you do lose volume which results in the features you describe. This is what I would consider to a classic style boat while some of the other designs have overcome these limitations in various ways eg wider hulls (slower performance), lower bridgedeck (slamming), athwartship cabins, higher deck lines (but more windage) and flaring of the hull above the waterline (increased buoyant when nose diving)...
That head will be nice and cozy when you need to use it in bad weather.
Good to see you two doing so well. I like the protected rudders and normal shaft drives. There are so many things out floating in the ocean these days one must consider safety. The glass-enclosed cockpit is great as it stays clear. There seems to be a bunch of improvements since Ruby Rose review 2 years ago. Thanks.
Very nice boat! Just for the record, Sailing Uma is a fully electric boat that they have been sailing for 5 or 7 years right up to the Arctic circle. They have a standby generator in case of emergencies but otherwise they operate by sail and electric motor. If you haven't done so, look them up - amazing couple.
Regarding Sailing Uma they also did an interview/review on a Salona who build a completely electric monohull. It uses a saildrive type drive that generates while sailing. I have surveyed a Salona 40 diesel (notice-I am a surveyor) and they are pretty nice but if I were looking at cats for myself the Antares would have my intention. I have also surveyed an Antares-Nice boat. Tom Eckhardt
@@tomeckhardt5406 curious what you think of the hh44
@@krismartin1181 The Antares Cat I surveyed was a 42 and hull #1-they made it a 44 later. I have looked at a few PDQ products over the years and am always impressed. The only thing I don't love is the engine placement as far as noise is concerned-But I will live with that to have straight inboard as I do not like sail drives even more. If I went that route it would not be the hybrid, it would be straight electric that would charge while under way.
Great review! Actually I liked the previous catamaran better! Wishing you lots of luck!
Great overview thanks. Its a bit like the Amel of catamarans isn't it....rock solid and incredibly well built.
In my view if they could built a galley up and more modern interior colours and designs, they would probably tenfold their sales.
It looked like a really nice however I really liked the boat last week better. Just seemed to be a better cruiser. Sounds like the insurance is taking their sweet time. Hope it works alright in the end!
Thanks John. Yes the cogs of bureaucracy are slow but they also want invoices only so trying to find invoices for clothes and personal effects that are 1-3 years old is difficult...
These Antares have really top notch quality the only thing I am not fond of is the down galley but very stunning boats
yes lovely! We have galley down in our 42 foot cat and it worked really well as long as the person is not cut off from the saloon.
First of all you’re the most like-able sailing couple ever, love watching you guys. Secondly how will you cope without the fly bridge from the 50?
Thanks again Gus for your support. Obviously Antares is the traditional design without front cockpit or flybridge but benefits in other ways. It all comes down to individual preference as we were saying in the tour... We are deliberately not saying if one better thananotherand letting viewers make their own Choice based on their preference.
nice that it self , very good catamaran well layout for
short and long trips suit would suit most ..the look of it is very good hope you get god from your ins /group for last 55
Thanks for your ongoing support Leonard! We keep hoping too!
Tuff choice between this and the balance. I like the hybrid with 40k lithium of this one so this is a really great boat.
Yes, the power systems makes this boat stand out - they have stretched the envelope in that way....
Am a big fan of the traditional way of shaft drive. Not a big fan of sail drives, they seem unreliable and hard to service. It seems a really nice boat.
The sail drives make the construction really easy - just bolt them on so popular for boat builders....
Another great walkaround/review, just a quick check on lbs/kgs of the genenerator versus loading.
How do you guys' feel about the bed situations vis a vis the lack of disturbing your partner/exit of whole width hull beds versus the ease of island beds on your previous leopard?
Thanks Mark for your continued support! Yes you are right about the lack of side access in beds - this makes making the beds more difficult (as you have to make it while kneeling on it) and have to shuffle to the bottom of the bed to get off, instead of rolling to the side. Performance boats will commonly have some of the cabins like that because of the narrow hulls and it is something you usually just have to put up with until to go to a bigger boat (eg 50 footer) or very wide hulls and slower performance like a Lagoon.... The choice of convince / comfort / performance options again..... Personally we have got used to climbing off the beds without sides but making the bed is a bigger pain from our side. Hope that helps.
do you tjink you would ever get another leopard 50 that is exactly the same as ultra dash?
That would have been ideal, but production time we would have to wait too long it would seem.
Very good boat. The hulls are around 44 feet in length and quite wide so the low length to width ratio (coupled with a small sail area) makes these boats fairly slow (comparatively). However, they are very durable and sea-worthy. The greatest attributes; however, are underwater. Safety! The Antares has a shaft drive protected by a keel as well as a skeg mounted rudder. All boats (mono-hull and catamaran) should have these, but amongst catamarans, the Antares stands alone. The major downside with Antares? They are expensive! As I write this, there are 2 used for sale at Rhumb Line Yacht Sales and 1 in Phuket Thailand.
Thanks Paddy - yes I only mentioned the protection to the rudder and not the prop but mini keels do protect the props as you say and this is a great safety feature!
Cap I think you're not looking close enough at the hull shape under the water. Their hulls are very narrow under the water thanks to their low weight. Sail plan is "small" because low drag doesn't need big sails to move well. Its the boats with the fat asses that need the big sails. And it's not intended to be a race boat. A cruising family doesn't want to fly a hull. Ever.
Do they still build them
Thanks for wAtching Frank. We did the tour about 2 years ago at the Annapolis show Oct 2020 and they are still in business as far as I am aware and I saw a new smaller model being promoted.... Not a lot of info on their site though!
It is amazing that when you purchase insurance it takes an hour or so. You never have to worry about missing a premium payment because the insurance company will repeatedly send you reminders. The reminders for next months premium start the day after you make the payment for this month. Low and behold the time it takes when you make a claim. When you call to get updates you get a very pleasant person telling you "we are working on it and will be done soon". Funny how you get the same response month after month.
THE ANTARES, I love the boat. I really don't see any advantage to a hybrid. At best the electric motors gives you a 25 mile range. Well ok to that, but why. Electric cooking is good, no doubt. I happen to like gas, a system that does not depend on anything else. Lithium Ion house bank, proper amount of solar, add a Watt & Sea to that and HELL YES! All the power your little heart desires. Running AC on the house bank mmmmmmmmmm so good. Antares makes a high quality cat. Check the resale values, they are high, much higher than most cats.
You two have had so many adventures in the short time you have had your channel it is amazing and bold you continue to march forward with your dreams and desires.
Be happy, be safe
Electric motors allow you to anchor and manouver and leave harbours. Most of the time
Without disturbing people on board and off or disturbing marine life... a global problem. You dont have to keep stopping and starting your diesels for short runs which is both fuel inefficient and causes premature wear of your motors.
Also modern Electric motors are by comparison maintainance free and inherently reliable in themselves with very few moving parts to wear or break.
The limited range is more a reflection on this battery bank size and current battery tech. /economics and amount of Solar available...but sailing Uma have been out there for years now.
Traditional generators seem to be very heavy underwhelming items compared to aviation apu's and modern high output alternators systems.🤔
I would suggest someone is going to have to rethink their whole design approach very soon.
The other point is E motors that regen under sail mean you can operate free of diesel .. sailing FF.ICE power especially in remote locations brings its own problems with fuel quality and availability. Thats now; within the next 3-8yrs you are going encounter rapid legislative and directed technical shifts world wide.
Before anyone argues contrary
remember its the very places a lot of cruisers want to visit and stay are mostly those most vunurable to polution and rising sea levels.
You might see 3 or 12 mile Diesel ICE pollution exclusion limits like many city centers put round popular cruising ground locations and marine reserves.
Tempus Fugit..success in the face of rapid change favours the most adaptable...
Hey Larry, thanks for your comment and covering several points. Yes, I think everyone has had insurance pain in some way and you are right that they are very quick to charge and very slow to pay. WRT the hybrid, again you can get the boat with or without depending on preference so there is something to suit everyone and I am sure that technology will advance further in elEVs but also possibly in generators are the pressure increases to become lighter and more efficient (like Acs).
Thanks for you kind words and yes, our many "adventures"have occurred sometimes without our choice but we are still wanting to live a full and exciting life so plan the best way forwards so our dreams are still ahead of us! Regards.
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Insurance and credit rating scores companies .... both potentially as easy to get a grip on as a feeding hagfish.
Sailing Dauntless have had a nightmare time with their big salvaged Leopard, rebuild because of the Yard theyve had to work in but thankfully Leopard themselves have been helping and advising on the technical side.
Docs i cannot remember but assume the motors on the Antares also run conventional alternators.
With Cop26 in Glasgow the Island nations contingent that could afford to make it to the table ....including Trinidad, Mauritius, Seychelles and scatered representatives from Oceanian were making it very clear they are already in difficulties with the current Warming, Storms and Sea level rises ...
Logically boat builders and designers are going to have start thinking and working outside of their historic boxes somewhat.
If he's still with us 🤞🏻 I bet old James Wharram's eyes are sparkling mischievously if not positively 🔥 incadescent.😉👍🏼⛵
Beautiful boat. It would be great if it were a 54'. Then the galley could go up. Still missing fly bridge and front lounge.
Why does everyone think a flybridge is the way to go? They're shit for a live aboard IMO.... great for a charter, which is why they make them.
Hey Crystal, thanks for the comment and each boat is what it is... We all just have to decide our own personal priorities. We did enjoy the flybridge esp at night when cruising but it is a luxury that has downsides for weight and reduced sail area / higher boom.
what is the wait time on this boat?
Aren’t they manufactured in South America Argentina
Yes that is right. I did not make that point on the walk through albeit an unusual place to make a boat.
The area is rich with boat craftsmen. Finding and keeping good craftsmen is a real challenge and the main reason for moving production down there.
Where did you get the weight numbers from? Looks to me like you have at least one cat off by 10,000 lbs from what I understand to be correct.
I’m interested in the info and not trolling or trying to challenge you.
That graph was off the Antares website or one of their videos. Which weight was wrong?
@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 The numbers don't match up for Privilege or Xquisite. Privilege discloses a fully-loaded weight of 55k and X5 46k (X5 only gives unloaded -but I added 11k as Privilege did to come up with the loaded number). And, of course, it is an apple to orange issue since the Antares is 44' and a beam of 22' while both the Privelege and X5 are 50' x 26'. I noticed those two because they along with the Seawind 1600 were my top three finalists before making a purchase. It is also odd that they include a lagoon with a flybridge. The sport top, which is lighter, is closer to the same size as the Antares. Anyway,, I'm enjoying your channel and sorry about your boat.
@@scottb3774 That chart is from a whole video Mark did on performance. The boats selected provided a good cross section. They also provide easily accessible useful information.
Gosh I can’t see the price anywhere, can someone help me please?
Hi Lee $995 000 !
I like his advise abot sloer speed, I do'nt like fast bots myself 🙄
HI Wayne, thanks for the comment and everyone has their priorities of their own which is what makes life so interesting!!
Very nice! I just need another $999,999. I had better get saving..... or rob a bank!
Probably just keep saving - you can't enjoy the boat from inside a cell!
So now you’re up to 4 catamarans you want to buy 😉🤣🥂
Hey Dave, We are reviewing the positive features of each cat and leaving the negatives and our personal preferences out. Clearly the Antares does not have a front cockpit and flybridge and for those that know what we are looking for would understand where our priorities were. If a great boat is so good in other ways that we will sacrifice those preferences, we may... These tours are to give others the qualities and features without egotistically saying one is better than another based on our personal preferences as other people have other preferences. We are still looking as all of them are good with different benefits - "horses for courses"....
@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 well I think you are doing a wonderful job of reviewing these cats , I’m a relatively new subscriber to your channel so I’m not as familiar with your requirements , as most of your viewers, though I find it very interesting and informative. Obviously I’m keen to see you back on the water so I can sail vicariously thru your experiences , as I’m unlikely to get my hands on a cat in this lifetime. 😃🥂
Is this not an old one???? Think this is not my first......
Covid restrictions so they used a local boat.
Yes this boat was an existing one with AGM batteries and generator. The hulls will be the same and personal fit out options to choice.
The generator is 1/4 ton. I was surprised that it is so light.
My mistake! I said 537lbs and 1/2 ton. Flicking from pounds to Kgs caught me out...
@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 that’s the same mistake the Canadian airliner that ran out of gas and had a glide4 landing at a drag strip made confusing pounds with Kilograms.
@@annsheridan12 Just as well I am not a pilot!
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@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 Gimli glider is the story of how the airliner ran out of gas at 41,000’
I've always liked the design of the Antares but one major fault...One head on the port side. To use it, you have to walk through a cabin...very odd. Other option is to have guests use the owner's suite side which is just as odd.
Yes that is correct. This set up is really suitable for families and would be a but awkward with private guests.
None of these boats are in charter. Most are just a full time live aboard couple with the occasional guest.
That’s a limitation of the boat being 44’.
500 lbs is one quarter of a ton.
Yes - pounds /kg mistake!
They are a family, alright
Thanks for watching,P!
535 pounds is only a quarter ton and not half ton
Yes I was getting confused between pounds and Kg.... Commercial planes have crashed because of that imperial to metric error (mistaking litres for gallons!)!
You totally Angela Sainsbury the hell out of that......at 13:40 he admits,he met the arsonist........
Thanks DJ! The arsonist - yes - WE WANT NAMES!
540 lbs btw is noy 1/2 a ton but closer to 1/4 of a ton as a ton is a 1000 kg
Yes I was getting my pounds and Kgs mixed up...
Its still a great cat. Just needs to be brought into this century. Especially for that kind of money.
Can you explain what you mean by that statement please? They seem to think it is part of the 21st C. What was it that you thought was lacking in technological advancement?
1/4 ton ton 2000lbs
Yes my error getting confused with the conversions from pounds to Kgs...
Antares are not good. They don’t seem to be building them for average cruisers. No bow thrusters. No redundancy if the systems fail that provide eco cruising.
Galley down is a configuration not many enjoy. Most want it up on the main deck aft and to port. The lagoon 50’ is really emphasizing what’s been successful! Taking the 560/620 series features and making them available in the smaller 50’ model.
1000lbs. is half a ton matey not 537lbs.
Yes, my error! Getting confused with the conversions from pounds to Kgs...
@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 Hey all good matey, just having some fun with ya! Love your channel.
Don't thik you'll buy this one, can't see you going from a 50 ft cat back to a 40ft cat
I agree, do they make something larger and can they put a high/low swim platform on the thing?
@@gbsailing9436 As far as I know, this is the only size cat they make.
@@shanevillis4079 Ah. Shame I think they would make a awesome 60tfer
@@gbsailing9436 The designer had a very informative Blog. The boat is designed for a liveabourd cruising couple or young family to go almost anywhere in the world. Big enough for what most couples want. Small enough to single hand by the weakest member. Guests are rare.
@@mjb2048 Yes I get that. You failed to understand what I said. I WOULD LIKE something around 60ft. I have a big family and lots of friends. Sure they are not going to be there all at the same time, but you would still only get 4 usable double cabins with a 60fter - and a possible Bunk cabin for kids - but you could probably still have a galley down on one side which would mean a much bigger and better saloon to relax in that would fit more people in when the weather is bad and you want to close the doors up.
Please stop saying yeah!
Antares seem to MASSIVELY understate the weight of the vessel.. There is no way this thing weighs 10,750kg in cruising weight. Especially with the 2x Mains + 1 x Generator + 40Kw of lithium etc etc
5 min of googling says the lightship weights are at least 10,000kg - and considering lightship weights are always quoted with no fitted gear
This catamaran HAS to weigh at least another couple of ton above 10,750. probably more like 14-15,000kg.
The weights are accurate. For more details Mark does a video on performance. Search Antares to find the series.
I enjoy your boat reviews, however if you listen to your reviews of the Antares 44 you say “yah” at least 50 times in the first 10 minutes, to me, it becomes distracting and I needed to stop the video. I’m trying to inform you, not trying to criticize you.
Thanks Lyall for that. Yes the idiosyncrasies like that can be annoying so I will hopefully be able to avoid them in the future (but we have already recorded the other reviews so I will see if I did the same thing). Obviously conversational agreement encourages the other to speak but it does not suit video at all - sorry!
Nice boat except the dated hull hatches. Makes the boat look dated
Thanks Michael for the comment.
uh huh, uh huh, yeah yeah, ..... Stop talking over the guy trying to explain things so we can hear what he is saying.
I will take it on board.
@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 I wasnt trying to be rude about it. I just couldnt hear anything the guy was saying about the Antares boat which I was looking into buying myself. Most people dont realize how their voice over carries others when they are the ones holding the camera.