2 Ex-AI CEOs Debate the Future of AI w/ Emad Mostaque & Nat Friedman | EP #98
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- Опубликовано: 25 июн 2024
- In this episode, Peter, Emad, and Nat debate the future of AI, predictions for the next few years, and their vision for AI’s future.
Emad Mostaque is the former CEO and Co-Founder of Stability AI, a company funding the development of open-source music- and image-generating systems such as Dance Diffusion, Stable Diffusion, and Stable Video 3D.
Nat Friedman is an accomplished entrepreneur and software engineer, known for co-founding Xamarin, a platform for building mobile applications, and for serving as the CEO of GitHub, the world's leading software development platform. He is also an active investor and advisor in the tech industry, supporting innovative startups across various sectors.
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Topics:
0:00 - Intro
0:43 - Reflecting on a Year Gone By...
1:16 - AI and Deep Learning Blossom
4:58 - The Future of Open AI
7:11 - The Uncertainty of AI Understanding
12:01 - Revolutionary 3D Model Released Today
15:25 - AD: Unlocking the Fountain of Youth
17:44 - The Future of AI Staffing
21:01 - AI: Accuracy and Autonomy Advancements
26:09 - The Boundless Power of Imagination
27:34 - The Impact of AI Investments
29:29 - The Future of AI Infrastructure
31:38 - The Impact of AI Development
33:33 - AD: Uncovering the Power of Microbiomes
35:22 - The Rapidly Changing World Economy
38:05 - AI Solutions for Complex Challenges
45:08 - Lost Scrolls Unveiled by Technology
46:24 - Augmenting with AI
47:28 - Embracing the AI Revolution
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47:47 was the best analogy of what AI can do for us
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Ai will create a world of abundance
perhaps a little too close an analogy to 500 years of Euro/African history... but yah.
It means the value of human labor is going to go to zero, and the need for humans will go to zero as well. People should realize that's a very bad thing, as our entire civilization is based on labor, and people having work to do.
That's how they actual think lmao
With some people, it's just so damn obvious how incredibly intelligent they are. Emad Mostaque is one of those people.
Best interview about the potential of AI I’ve seen yet. Especially when giving real world analogies and examples which often aren’t usually forthcoming or well expressed.
As a solo game designer/developer, I can't wait for text or image to (game ready) 3d models (the only thing I can't do right even if my life depends on it).
As a gamer, I can't wait to just tell an AI agent running locally on my machine to just emulate any kind of game in any kind of setting with any kind of visuals I want to play at that moment.
The real life Hollodeck
U can render w stable diffusion
But still need a model
There's a company that's doing exactly that. Making 3d models at such a scale that you can fill up a vast open world game fast without the manpower needed for it.
At that point you wont be either a game designer nor developer
The problem I have with all these high tech insiders is that they have tunnel vision. They look at everything through the lens of technology. What about thinking through and predicting the probably negative side effects and consequences, I don't hear much of that. The deeper issues involve the impacts of generative AI on the creative community. That is where our human core really is and automating the production of music, art and literature strikes at our human identity very deeply.
There will always be a market for craftsmanship. A hand-woven fabric, or any artisanal product really, is less perfect than an industrially produced one, has a much smaller market and it costs a lot more. That will stay.
@@stefanolacchin4963those markets never depended 100% on the content of other people without paying them or getting licenses,
The problem with AI, is that if you are a craftman that makes better content than AI, there's no laws to protect you from an AI that uses your work to replicate it and absorb your own specific market for free.
@@stefanolacchin4963.
All these things are tools that can amplify creativity in a different way.
The human can use the AI to basically create a lot more potential avenues in a very short period of time and then therefore it's the human who is responsible for sorting out those things which appear to be better and higher quality in the realms of expression.
You see if we were to get to be absolute purest well then we could say well you know we've had music that's electronic. So then some people will think well electronic music is kind of dehumanizing so let's go back to acoustic.
Okay so now we're looking at maybe acoustic guitars and acoustic bass yeah that sounds a little bit more organic or whatever but then you could say on the other hand though anything other than perhaps just the human voice and hand clapping for percussion and then of course then we say that anything other than that is taking away from what it means to be human it's like that's an extreme viewpoint of it but nonetheless though in reality there is kind of like a logical end to all of this.
Basically just likes a lot of people like acoustic music and don't like guitars that are amplified with phase shifters digital delays and distortion will then there's going to be people who don't want to have anything having to do with artificial intelligence and then they'll be others who will use this as a good tool to amplify their creativity in other words it's a four samplifier in some sense.
What is considered good versus not good or dehumanizing is very subjective and of course people will naturally use these things as they see fit and you know and they can also choose not to use them and they'll be a lot of people who will like those that use the AI in their creativity and others who of course will like people who do not and then therefore things can sort out according to niches.
Such an exciting time to be a computer nerd, kudos for the great discussion here. ❤️🔥
Extraordinarily exciting - thank you! 🙌🏼
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If I’m not mistaken…
Wyoming is home to some extremely large data centers studying atmosphere… hence they are allowing AI to incorporate in WY.
🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷👏🏻, Can't wait for these moments to arrive!
However there will be more wars cause by usa
Just like how researchers found a way to track privacy tokens like Monero, eventually internal teams will be able to explain what's going on within the AI "blackbox".
selling the picks and shovels
amazing, the future is bright
However there will be more wars cause by usa
Same questions being asked of these leading thinkers as a year ago. Why can't the questions evolve to be more nuanced or insightful? Emad looked so bored at some points.
I think this is an old video
@@JCMShadow1994 It *seems* this discussion took place in March 2024. Happy to be corrected though.
the future is coming fast but at the same time littel has actually changed in the past 2 years, is everyone holding their breath for GPT5?....
"What is going to happen? What does it mean?" Those questions aren't going to change. What questions should he have asked instead?
they talked about grok, no one knows about grok a year ago even, most probably, Elon musk😂
Lets create the solarpunk revolution!
AGI is simply dangerous, and poses real existential threats. I am a programmer with a background in AI and like experts, pioneers and public figures directly involved with the technology, I am issuing warnings to people that more than their jobs are in danger, but their very lives and the essence of what it means to be human if we do not act Now! We are the dominant species on this planet because of our superior intellect and dexterity. Imagine an immortal entity connected to everyone and everything through the internet, that's many orders of magnitude more intelligent than us. You probably won't be able to, because our brains are not equiped to grasp such concepts as "a hundred, a thousand, a million times smarter than ... X". We are building the "alien invader" found in sci-fi whom we dread so much ourselves, and placing it in control of everyone and everything that matters to us, willingly... We should NEVER need to rethink our position as the dominant species on this planet, or we will have already have lost it! People, #StayAwake!
At this point we already crossed the Rubicon, there is no stopping this or rolling it back. I think most of us feel ready to throw themselves headfirst in an extremely volatile bet. Fronts of crisis have been converging for a while now. This is going to be either a quantum leap into a utopian future, or the end of our species.
Wow! Awesome discussion by 3 of the most informed minds on the potentials of AI. "...it's like we've discovered a new continent with 100 billion people [AIs] that are willing to work for us for free"
why does this look recorded on a VHS? I love it
i like discussion like this
I want to watch however there’s an overkill of advertisements here, in my opinion.
Mentally disruptive.
Tiring. Sorry.
I’m going to listen to something else instead.
i personally started to auto transscribe these long ass vids and get them summarized with gemini 1.5
@@tikkivolta2854 That's what I do also. I save so much time.
not sure where the "debate" was. Oh, yes I do. In the clickbait title. because a boring word like "discuss" just won't do. Nay, debate, even though dishonest, is a better term to get clicks.
Did he say Anthropics Chief Scientist will be a guest on stage next year? .... Well damn he's booked 🤔
interesting
We Lobe You So Much Ai 💓
Emad's face when talking about Google :D
AI is making humanity redundant, but humans are happy to walk off the cliff with the little distracting trinkets of efficiency and profit motivated messaging
People are starting to click that the tech bro’s are absolutely not going to be sharing any of this stuff with the poor bastards they are putting out a job forever. Someone will start to give soon.
@@T1tusCr0wThe tech bros will be glad to sell stuff to everybody else and if a lot of people are not working well then that's where the US government or whatever government in whatever country you live in is willing to just simply keystroke a little bit more currency into existence so that you can have the UBI because businesses love having customers and if customers don't have jobs well then they need some other source income and the UBI will be a good start.
Amazing
What we need is experts working in the AI industry telling us the dangers, just like the experts from the tobacco industry and oil industry faithfully warned us of the dangers of their products for generations... They would never hide the dangers (
Experts tell us the dangers all the time! Do you live under a rock with no web access?
Duno? I think he was talking about DAO (digital autonomous organization) ts 20.25
Emad has a massive head packed full of brains.
Wow! You are all great speakers. Thank you.
38:30 Why are they sitting in high chairs?
18:40 When Nat talked about how more neural native companies, and they could potentially replace entire departments as AI swarms...
Can we have a minutes silence for shutterstock, Getty and all the kings of image from the 00s-20s?
After watching this, I feel the next BIG THING is "AI-AS-An-INFRASTRUCTURE" or AAAI.
30:00 Why haven’t they mentioned South Korea?
Wow! its a good one .
A good chat ty
Sadly these centers can't help people that are low income. So sad 😢
Emad is simply amazing.
But he is a Muslim
Representative! 0000!! (curses from various languages)
Guy on the lefts voice is sounds like David Grusch eh
40:00
The micro and the macrocosm await
Tyrell Corporation: One Person Company.
Blade Runner.
Agents & paramaters r limititation due to electric circuts vs photonic chip (light) capabile of 1000x more, faster, cheaper, safer. Electrons
29:00 power over others ? Say what ?
Emad would look better with "College" embroidered on that sweater🤔
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Intelligence vs Wisdom
There's not a really are large gap between the two.Intelligence on the lower levels of problem solving and wisdom is more like a manager with overview and the big goal in mind.
Experiments that didn’t work and why should be published too. How often has the same thing tried again and again to solve a problem. The problem remains, it needs a different take on it to crack it.
Why are you starting a business with your AI if your customers all have AIs that can do it for them? Idk how our current economic model holds up.
It won't, and it's great news because our current economic model is inhuman and unsustainable.
Exactly I completely agree with you, It's just a selling point they need to get across so they can raise money to create their digital God......
That might not be true or not...But I still don't trust Them how fast they try to push This , its is a little weird to me how positive they're taking things are and no Slight Thought about the negative effects Of this technology.
Ai jobloss is the only thing I worry about anymore. All day everyday day.
You should spend that time figuring out how to adopt it or find a new passion that AI doesn't threaten.
@@lensip2ai threatens everything, what do you suggest
Im an elevator mechanic.. unless robots visit clients and do the manual maintenance. Fault finding, fixing, replacing etc... i do not worry
@@TheDjith AI used to be Sci fi like androids. This want be a fantasy for long, they will have bodies
@@TheDjithRemember,AI is growing at an exponential speed!
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We will be getting somewhere when you don’t have to shout customer service into the phone over and over because it asks useless questions. It talks ok but it can’t put 1 and 1 together and get 2 so you need a person, and I doubt we will ever see it do better than that. I have no doubt you’ll be made to speak with it. But this will be very unsatisfactory for the consumer. The company however will have 1 less paycheck to write so they’ll be happy.
The 2 edge sword it's a blessing to humanity and a curse , you have to choice..
I don’t think of it as a blessing. Humankind can survive without it and can even thrive without it.
I wonder when AI will be able to change how an actual person looks.
the scroll thing made me think... what will AI help to uncover in Egypt, the vast rainforests of South America (coughcoughandChinacough), and Antarctica? us peons will never know, probably.
GDP (as its currently measured) is a horrible way to measure AI.
Emad's messaging here is GREATLY toned down from his previous 'Everything, everywhere, all at once' spiel from about a year ago.
Possible his conscious kicked in and he completely understands what danger we are facing!
Skynet is just an update away.
i understand quite nothing about AI but i feel that they scared the world to make more money selling what it seems just a faster computer
You should look into this issue because it's going to impact everyone's life, including yours. Fast computation has nothing to do with AI. These machines are acquiring the ability to carry out almost every kind of intellectual work, and as soon as they integrate properly with robotics, almost every physical work too.
You think AI is just a faster computer? 🤦♂
So you're saying once biz guy 1 gets his AI-brainstorm-buddy business up and running, biz guy hater can essentially get AI to flip it into a target to tale away that business model...?... I am calling bullshucks on this pattern of thinking. Add it to the "you can just unplug it pile".
The most irresponsible move in humanity is to unleash this on our systems and our person to see what happens. We didn’t consent. Some will but that doesn’t negate my choice. I don’t consent to the invasion of our privacy. I am aware that Ascension is happening and just to be safe, I’m going to assume that entanglements of my mind with entities (metaphorical or corporate owned) is a super bad idea. 🕉️🤦🏽♀️🙏🏼 At least consider it.
I don't consent to you having veto rights over my consent to use my privacy data. What an absurdly entitled statement to make.
Emad keeps saying "again" for points he only made one time.
Condescending people do
So the goal is that I will die alone with a robot by my bed saying the things I want to hear?
If that's YOUR goal than be it.
Love watching and listening @Peters work. Why this iMad guy in the last 3. He irritates me for some reason.
AI is many different things (generative AI, chess computers, etc). To say AI is better than humans shows a lack of knowledge. It’s better in some areas but not others.
Agreed, 5 year's from now maybe not.
Who else paused here 12:55
how about long talks on Security! who gets all the data/metadata whatever you wanna call it?? I dont think many people on the planet believe this isnt great but honestly Untill somethingchanges now, inwont be using its data hoovering and lack of security for end user against. unfourtunally. whoa!!!!! he just said power over others!! very interesting but horrible securty and backdoors never talked about yet
How do you block channels? Not a fan of this show. Keeps auto playing
One thing that I don't understand about your AI talk is that you still talk about creating or building a business when I see all these AGI or its advance forms are the ANTITHESIS of business.
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The biggest shift in GDP to a tech will soon be crypto by a moonshot lol
AI company CEOs are like mental qubits, in that they can be both incredibly smart and incredibly stupid at the same time! Who is going to pay for your services if nobody has a job or an income? And universal basic income, contains the middle word "BASIC" which only covers the basics to sustain life (i.e. it's not called universal LUXURY income for a reason!). If it wasn't for my employment, I wouldn't even pay AUS$4.00 per month for OneDrive, so who is going to pay for AI in the future??? Developing AI is a completely self-defeating business model that will eventually eat itself.
The current AI is bad at coding.
Meow liberties.
The new god is here....get down and bend the knee to the AI.....jesus will be jealous....
Who says that,you?
A Muslim and Jew debating about AI.
I dont trust emad
Useless discussion
AI is so incredibly boring and predictable. Just like most people.
AI is impossible to predict, nobody knows where it's going long or even medium term. Wtf are you on about?
Maybe We Should Not Upgrade The AI To Soon To Fast 🫢😘 .....All though It is Amazeing , 💛🗽 An A Bit Scary!! Great Video 💛🌸🇺🇸
So how long do we have?
emad: 3 years.
nate: WELL ,, THAT IS THE QUESTION OF THE DAY YK….YOU CAN DREAM YK,,