Best thing to show students of Science, Engineering and Technology. The students of the modern world will love it. Thank you for the video. Watch it on a 75 inch TV guys. Wow!
I actually like the audio of this vid more than most of them because you can actually hear the clanking of the rods and the chug of the stack, in a lot of vids you can't hear it when they're at speed.
Alex Siliato Hopefully once we run out of oil and the reign of the Diesels comes crashing down, the Steamies will rule once again. They're so much more powerful, elegant, and reliable than these newer locomotives.
Maybe not designs exactly like these, but maybe steam-electric locos could be designed, the main problem is operation cost, diesels are cheaper to run than these.
@@clf8965 elegant? Yes. Reliable, and more powerful then diesel/electric not even close. I love steam engines as much as anyone but they are obsolete for a reason.
@@nathanofftopic Scientifically speaking, steam has no limit in power. The more heat generated = more steam pressure. It's only limited by the amount of stress the boiler, cylinder and pistons can handle. Electric motors OTOH have a maximum output range and that's all you get. If you require more power then you have to start teaming them. How many times have you seen two or three steam locomotives teamed together pulling freight? The main reason for the change over from steam to diesel electric was due to the amount of maintenance time and cost required to keep a steam locomotive running. They have way more moving parts and moving parts wear down.
Very impressive and enjoyable pacing scenes of Union Pacific 844 as this locomotive is a treasure to the Union Pacific special heritage steam program. I always enjoy seeing footage of UP 844 in operation as I enjoy seeing 4-8-4 type locomotives hauling passenger trains operating at high speeds across North America.
Saw your post on Reddit. Wow, how awe-inspiring. Must have been awesome to be alongside it. I rode in the cab of a similar locomotive a while back, it wasn't going to 70 though :)
Search for a picture of the Southern Pacific 4207, and we see a 2-6-6-2 that has a tender with a fairly standard looking pair of trucks. Also, notice how the front cylinder is larger. The front cylinder receives recycled steam from the exhaust of the rear cylinder. We can conclude that more wheels equals higher quality, and the Union Pacific, being the most badass railroad around, put as many wheels as they could on their tender, not to exceed the limits set by the equation w=2a.
Wow! Talk about haulin' a**. I guess that is referred to by the train "nuts" as highballing. Did you make note of her speed? Does 4014 go as fast? That is so majestic, seeing those rods and those 8 drivers working as a whole. Once she gets going that fast, you don't hear the typical chug-chug. Those driving cylinders are exhausting so fast, that all you hear is a mild "patter". This, by God, is a TRAIN! I think I've seen several clips of her pulling a regular freight train, and I'd bet she doesn't even grunt. I'm delighted to see that UP is taking advantage of their heritage and restoring these beautiful old locomotives; if nothing else for posterity.
At 3:35 it's like wow you can hear a monster breathing on the way and then saw this big beast rolling on the track like wow holy mackerel loving the steam
Damn that thing moves! Total blas tonly even driving next to it! It must have been really hightec at the time, and it somehow is a peak for normal technical engineering when people put pride in good looks and quality.
Your pacing footage is nothing short of epic! It is literally a collector's piece and an archive of historical significance. Technically, I am sure you notice the difference between the sound of the steam whistle from your stationary shots and your pacing shots. In the former the sound rises and falls as the engine passes you owing to the Doppler effect and it does not because there is no Doppler.
ok, i'll answer your q. yes. you only see centipede tenders on locomotives that had large fuel requirements. 844 had top speed of 110mph, and needed lots of water The 'centipede' tender that you see here was delivered with the FEF-2 and FEF-3 locomotives from Alco. Five axles are rigidly mounted to the tender, while a four-wheeled trucked is allowed to move laterally to navigate through curves. I think that that yellow, 2nd tender is from one of UP's old steam turbines, but I don't know.
The number of wheels is determined by the following equation: w=2a w=number of wheels on tender a=number of axles on tender If any more or less wheels are put on the tender, derailment risk increases.
Why in the world are they using a diesel for a 6 caoach consist. That thing could pull 16 coaches at 90 mph on the flats. And in reguards to the comment below, the 800's had a higher top speed that 110 mph. Steve Lee is quoted saying no one really knows how fast an 800 could go but they were safe to up to 120 mph.
They are using the diesel for safety. Railroading is dangerous business, even on uneventful days. The dynamic braking provided by the diesel locomotive makes the insurance bean-counters happy.
My father works for the Union Pacific so I am fully aware of the dangers in railroading. Steve Lee said in a thread that they only used diesels when the weight of the conist was higher than what would have been allowed during steam days. If Steve Lee only used em under those conditions than why does Ed use em twenty-four seven. Of coarse at the rate he's going, we won't have to worry about steam at all. He's dang near ruined the 844's boiler.
Railroads don't want old engines accidently breaking down and requiring shutting down the main line. So they keep the diesel there 'just in case'. Of course that 4-8-4 doesn't need help pulling anything.
No help needed for a mile long train at 80mph The diesel is there not for help but for dynamic braking as well as just incase the 77 year old loco has an issue while on the mainline it can be pushed off the main so it isn’t blocked in both directions for hours.
It's getting very hard to find a 'similar' locomotive. Do you mean 'similar' as in it has a 4-8-4 wheel arrangement, or 'similar' as in it is a steam locomotive? If there is a locomotive out there like the 844, i'd like to see it!
im sorry to ask because i just got into steam locomotives today Questions I have: What is this metal piece on the trains wheels called (thats moving up and down)? How fast can a steam loc go? whats the difference between the smoke coming from the bottom part and the upper part
To calculate the average speed of the locomotive over a five second period, use the following equation .90909(pi)r=mph r =the number of wheel revolutions in a five second period pi = 3.14159......
David Wu To calculate the average speed of teh locomotive over a five second period, use the following equation .90909(pi)r=mph r =the number of wheel revolutions in a five second period pi = 3.14159......
Hello. Probubly Jealous of Union Pacific's Steam Program. "Big Boy, Big Boy,... Which other steam progam has a 800 Class 4-8-4, a 4-6-6-4 Challenger, and a 4-8-8-4 "Big-Boy" currently under Restoration. Wow! BullyBilly
To calculate the average speed of teh locomotive over a five second period, use the following equation .90909(pi)r=mph r =the number of wheel revolutions in a five second period pi = 3.14159...... anyone care to check my math?
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How wonderful to have no daft music , or useless commentary ! Just the sound of good old steam . A thousand thanks !
Thanks for watching and listening!
Best thing to show students of Science, Engineering and Technology. The students of the modern world will love it. Thank you for the video. Watch it on a 75 inch TV guys. Wow!
I actually like the audio of this vid more than most of them because you can actually hear the clanking of the rods and the chug of the stack, in a lot of vids you can't hear it when they're at speed.
I agree , great sounds from that utter powerhouse
Thank you! I had a great time filming the chase.
@@GuyBucktastik Would it be okay if I shared this in a FaceBook group?
What's more majestic---the 844's sound, or the sight of all those moving parts working as a team?
Dave Croston the answer is the whole locomotive itself...these days trains are so boring...steam trains are badass
@@diptarupghosh4431 Out with the new, in with the old!
@@Gearz-365 the chugging of a big steam locomotive hits different
@@diptarupghosh4431 The Chugging of any steam engine hits harder then the ‘Chugging’ noise produced by a General Electric ES44AH
orr how about the whole train???...
SO BADASS! BRING THEM BACK!
Alex Siliato Hopefully once we run out of oil and the reign of the Diesels comes crashing down, the Steamies will rule once again. They're so much more powerful, elegant, and reliable than these newer locomotives.
Maybe not designs exactly like these, but maybe steam-electric locos could be designed, the main problem is operation cost, diesels are cheaper to run than these.
@@clf8965 elegant? Yes. Reliable, and more powerful then diesel/electric not even close. I love steam engines as much as anyone but they are obsolete for a reason.
Jessa K we have em over here
@@nathanofftopic Scientifically speaking, steam has no limit in power. The more heat generated = more steam pressure. It's only limited by the amount of stress the boiler, cylinder and pistons can handle. Electric motors OTOH have a maximum output range and that's all you get. If you require more power then you have to start teaming them. How many times have you seen two or three steam locomotives teamed together pulling freight? The main reason for the change over from steam to diesel electric was due to the amount of maintenance time and cost required to keep a steam locomotive running. They have way more moving parts and moving parts wear down.
Very impressive and enjoyable pacing scenes of Union Pacific 844 as this locomotive is a treasure to the Union Pacific special heritage steam program. I always enjoy seeing footage of UP 844 in operation as I enjoy seeing 4-8-4 type locomotives hauling passenger trains operating at high speeds across North America.
Amazing chase!!!! Well done!!!! Love that beauty's whistle too!!!!
one of the best rail videos I've seen. Thank you!
Steve Smith thanks for the encouragement!
Beautiful piece of machinery. Love that Kansas flag flying on the port side of the locomotive.
4:00 is epic
thanks! it was a fun chase, I can't wait to do it again.
I love this train! 🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃
Up 844 at Nebraska
Up 844 chased Nebraska subdivision oct 12th 2012 Friday
That machine is a work of art
This locomotive never had an easier day at work hauling a tender, diesel electric and six passenger cars.
and listen to her pound and hammer away at that highball like she's fixing to break a record all the same.
Wow, best locomotive footage I've ever seen. Thanks!
Of course!
It`s majestic!
Thanks a lot for the amazing footage.
A real treat for a steam railroading fan like me.
This is amazing footage. She is hands down the the greatest steam locomotive ever built. I'm subscribed
Now, THAT my friends, is a TRAIN!!!
Saw your post on Reddit. Wow, how awe-inspiring. Must have been awesome to be alongside it. I rode in the cab of a similar locomotive a while back, it wasn't going to 70 though :)
Up 844 está soprando o atualmente apito igual a voz do meu papai
What a magnificent beast, thank you!
This train is beautiful, I wish they would restore more of them!
Up 844 at Nebraska 1:29 2:59
Up 844 chase up to Kansas Oklahoma
It's fascinating to see those big heavy wheels and conrods move so fast
thanks for clicking! yes, very awe-inspiring. especially when the whistle rattles your bones!
Steam locomotives are the only machines that have souls.
Tim templeton as Up #844
it brings a tear to my eye watching this old girl keep pace with the modern world
She is faster and powerful than most of today
I love old stuff like this they don't make them like they use to.
Search for a picture of the Southern Pacific 4207, and we see a 2-6-6-2 that has a tender with a fairly standard looking pair of trucks. Also, notice how the front cylinder is larger. The front cylinder receives recycled steam from the exhaust of the rear cylinder.
We can conclude that more wheels equals higher quality, and the Union Pacific, being the most badass railroad around, put as many wheels as they could on their tender, not to exceed the limits set by the equation w=2a.
Wow! Talk about haulin' a**. I guess that is referred to by the train "nuts" as highballing.
Did you make note of her speed? Does 4014 go as fast?
That is so majestic, seeing those rods and those 8 drivers working as a whole. Once she gets going that fast, you don't hear the typical chug-chug. Those driving cylinders are exhausting so fast, that all you hear is a mild "patter". This, by God, is a TRAIN! I think I've seen several clips of her pulling a regular freight train, and I'd bet she doesn't even grunt.
I'm delighted to see that UP is taking advantage of their heritage and restoring these beautiful old locomotives; if nothing else for posterity.
At 3:35 it's like wow you can hear a monster breathing on the way and then saw this big beast rolling on the track like wow holy mackerel loving the steam
AWESOME! I've always thought...when diesel runs out, electricity has failed....this is how it will look. Steam locomotives on biofuel.
Wheels spin pumpin reminds me of country song... KEEP THOSE WHEELS A PUMPIN.!!😂😂😎😃✌👏👀👍.
AT&SF used to operate them running across Kansas at 100+ hauling some SERIOUS freight.
Up 844 goes to Kansas city mo
Up 844 going to Houston tx 150th express engine
Damn that thing moves! Total blas tonly even driving next to it! It must have been really hightec at the time, and it somehow is a peak for normal technical engineering when people put pride in good looks and quality.
It might be repaired and ready to run again this summer. Go see it if you can!
mesmerising
Thank you for amasing video. Very intreresting how the steam disribution mechanism works.
This is a sweet locomotive! Great video!!👍
Crazy good video and rare amazing sound. :D
It’s not chugging, that’s a healthy heartbeat, tickin like a massive Swiss watch
just Majestic
I GOT TO MEET THIS OLD MAN (844 IS A MAN!
Your pacing footage is nothing short of epic! It is literally a collector's piece and an archive of historical significance. Technically, I am sure you notice the difference between the sound of the steam whistle from your stationary shots and your pacing shots. In the former the sound rises and falls as the engine passes you owing to the Doppler effect and it does not because there is no Doppler.
whoops! the SP 4207 is a cab-forward steam locomotive, so it is the rear cylinder that receives the cold recycled steam from the front cylinder.
Righteous footage, brother
Union Pacific 844 looks beautiful then present day 844
ok, i'll answer your q.
yes.
you only see centipede tenders on locomotives that had large fuel requirements. 844 had top speed of 110mph, and needed lots of water
The 'centipede' tender that you see here was delivered with the FEF-2 and FEF-3 locomotives from Alco. Five axles are rigidly mounted to the tender, while a four-wheeled trucked is allowed to move laterally to navigate through curves.
I think that that yellow, 2nd tender is from one of UP's old steam turbines, but I don't know.
I think I was there the day it stopped in Marysville back in 2012.
Best video i ever seen ..thx
The number of wheels is determined by the following equation:
w=2a
w=number of wheels on tender
a=number of axles on tender
If any more or less wheels are put on the tender, derailment risk increases.
Hard to believe that thing sat in a park for decades
Why in the world are they using a diesel for a 6 caoach consist. That thing could pull 16 coaches at 90 mph on the flats. And in reguards to the comment below, the 800's had a higher top speed that 110 mph. Steve Lee is quoted saying no one really knows how fast an 800 could go but they were safe to up to 120 mph.
They are using the diesel for safety. Railroading is dangerous business, even on uneventful days. The dynamic braking provided by the diesel locomotive makes the insurance bean-counters happy.
My father works for the Union Pacific so I am fully aware of the dangers in railroading. Steve Lee said in a thread that they only used diesels when the weight of the conist was higher than what would have been allowed during steam days. If Steve Lee only used em under those conditions than why does Ed use em twenty-four seven. Of coarse at the rate he's going, we won't have to worry about steam at all. He's dang near ruined the 844's boiler.
Pianoman71213 whos ed?
Railroads don't want old engines accidently breaking down and requiring shutting down the main line. So they keep the diesel there 'just in case'. Of course that 4-8-4 doesn't need help pulling anything.
TO MAKE INSURANCE COMPANY'S HAPPY
Just out for an afternoon jog!
It was a steam turbine tender, and before that it was an FEF-1 tender.
One of the better American locos
What a pleasure !!!
Yes! Yes it is! Thank you!
As I recall, the Marysville Sub can handle 60 trains in 24 hours!
Up 844 high speeds fast
Man at 4:28 he gooses it!! haha
Daaamm that beast is haulin ass. 👍
Great video!!
can she work with out diesel help
Yes she can
No help needed for a mile long train at 80mph
The diesel is there not for help but for dynamic braking as well as just incase the 77 year old loco has an issue while on the mainline it can be pushed off the main so it isn’t blocked in both directions for hours.
This equation works for the 844, and any other vehicle that has 80 inch diameter wheels.
thanks!
Never seen a diesel and a steam locomotive pulling the same train before
It's getting very hard to find a 'similar' locomotive. Do you mean 'similar' as in it has a 4-8-4 wheel arrangement, or 'similar' as in it is a steam locomotive? If there is a locomotive out there like the 844, i'd like to see it!
There are a few of the same class preserved, just not operational
im sorry to ask because i just got into steam locomotives today
Questions I have:
What is this metal piece on the trains wheels called (thats moving up and down)?
How fast can a steam loc go?
whats the difference between the smoke coming from the bottom part and the upper part
It would be nice if you provided the speed the car was traveling while riding alongside 844 in the video description. I'm guessing 50 mph.
Read the rest of the comments, there is a formula to calculate the speed.
Guy Bucktastik yeah but you could just facilitate it for us haha :)
Probably around 70mph. Look for highball 75mph yt for comparison
That’s just like shining time station the tv star.
I think i fell in love ...
What speed was it going at +GuyBuktastic
To calculate the average speed of the locomotive over a five second period, use the following equation
.90909(pi)r=mph
r =the number of wheel revolutions in a five second period
pi = 3.14159......
They should add this to Train Simulator 2013 (Rail Works 2013), they have all the rest, but this one.
what is speed of this beast?
I wish steam used this to distribute boxes of computer games.
Up 844 puxando vagões exclusivos pra mulheres especiais 6hs 9hs 17hs 20hs segunda á sexta sábado e domingo feriados nacionais
km/h?
amazing!!
POLAR EXPRESS coming through!!!!!! Watch out for the locomotive houses!!😱😱
awesome!!
Why do they always spoil it by putting a diesel loc behind 844? It could easily haul that train on its own.
СУПЕР!
I love it
she was on the flats i THINK about tippin' off at 51 mph
Is the diesel partially pushing the steam train for show?
The diesel locomotive is not there for looks.
It is there for dynamic braking and to supply power to the cars, it only helps pull if needed, 844 is doing the pulling.
+Steve W thanks for coming back to watch the video again! watch it one more time and I'll forgive the cardinals avatar.
LOL, I love the Cards but they're really sucking ass this season! This is probably my favorite 844 video on YT!
+Steve W I had an awesome time chasing her from Gibbon to Steele City, I'm glad I could share such an experience.
Wtf it's carrying a freaking EMD SD40-1?
What was the top observed speed?
David Wu To calculate the average speed of teh locomotive over a five second period, use the following equation
.90909(pi)r=mph
r =the number of wheel revolutions in a five second period
pi = 3.14159......
Guy Bucktastik Basically, it runs about 90 MPH here?
Hello. Probubly Jealous of Union Pacific's Steam Program. "Big Boy, Big Boy,... Which other steam progam has a 800 Class 4-8-4, a 4-6-6-4 Challenger, and a 4-8-8-4 "Big-Boy" currently under Restoration. Wow! BullyBilly
She somehow symbolizes America 🇺🇸
This is an AWSOME engine! In Train simulator and Trainz IT’S FASTER THAN 4449 3985 457 AND BIG BOY!!!
It does 140 mph lol
@@Itmightbemason The 800 Class Was Built To Go 120 Mph
Sesame I love it
To calculate the average speed of teh locomotive over a five second period, use the following equation
.90909(pi)r=mph
r =the number of wheel revolutions in a five second period
pi = 3.14159......
anyone care to check my math?
интересно какая скорость у этого красавца великолепный монстр
Steam locomotive ASMR
Nice....but....why is that diesel electric engine in there?
"Safety" and incase of breakdowns it really ruins it a bit
@@bensmith4563 It does ruin it!