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I'm so pissed about Rappa she came at the absolute worst time when I was saving for Aventurine. Not surprised about Bronya at all especially when using her with Booty. He's already a walking nuke she allows him to continuously nuke the hell out of the enemy
A reasonable list. Himeko only making honorable mention is a bit debatable tho. Also had me laughing at some of the background footage, but maybe that was intentional. "Aventurine has the best shields in the game, and they're permanent!" cut to Feixiao with no shield and deep red health bar. "My GOD does [Robin] do damage!" cut to her dealing 9k damage with her procs 😂
aside the part that Firefly is not even an honorable mention, specially by how good she is, and the way she synergize so well to other break units and in the future, even if her damage isn't the best, she could still be an enabler by applying fire weakness to enemies, while still being very self suficient and surprisely bulky, well, aside it the list is really good, I will probably send to my friend who just started the game and only say "he just forgot to talk about Firefly", but overall great video, and makes me happy that people are recognizing Robin to be that good, I started playing the game because of her and Firefly, started in Robin's banner and got her as my first limited 5*, some people back them told me she isn't that good and is only good to buff critical damage, now some of them are crying that lost 50-50 in her rerun, while I had her since the very start of my account, she + a single good DPS definitively adds up, she buffs just so much ATK and damage delt, I remember using her with Firefly when I only had them, Harmony TB and not really well built chars
A e0s0 Acheron is way harder to play that a e0s0 firefly, if u don’t have e2 Acheron she’s very restrictive, firefly has her best teammates in a literal 4star healer, the free mc and a support that is so universally acclaimed that almost everybody already has her build, Acheron has almost no good f2p cones (boundless choreo is gacha gated) all in all Acheron takes way more investment to make her shine in the same level a s0e0 firefly with ruanmei and harmony mc
Any new player that is thinking going for the f2p route should try to get ff in her rerun over Acheron, an e0s0 ff + fugue is way better starting point, if u pull Acheron now as a f2p and don’t have enough to guarantee her e2 or at least her sig and u don’t have jq is game over
@@josemiguelsilva8995 firefly without RM is torture tbh. You don't break the enemy or keep them broken longer, which means you are overall doing significantly less damage. Acheron without JQ or her LC is doable, it just takes a little longer to build her ult, but even outside of that her team can still do okay damage.
@@daijoubun6648 Acheron at e0s0 does less damage that ff without ruan mei, I have both at e0s0 (I do have ruan mei but I have played ff without her) and it’s ridiculous how much easier to build and start using ff is, also the weakness implant is waaaay more useful that colourless brake
@@daijoubun6648 and in Acheron case it’s not just the time it takes to gain the stacks for the ultimate but also the fact that her damage suffers without a consistent deff shred and most nihility comes don’t gives the stats that Acheron needs, also building break effect is so much more easy that balancing crit values, that also makes ff easier and faster to just get her running in most accounts
I think Firefly is way better F2P unit and should above Acheron and around Rappa place. It's criminal she's not in the top. Her 2nd best LC is the herta shop. Her best support is free and RM is a unit the player should get either way, people can use March 7th as a substitute for those that don't have RM and Gallagher is great 4* that have high chance to rerun along side her. Her weakness implants allow her to brute force most of the content. And break DPS are way easier to build. Acheron don't have a great F2P LC and Pela need the pearl LC or her E4 to generate stack for Acheron without her ultimate.
Ya 100% Rappa is amazing and in her optimal situation she is Better then BH and FF for cost to cycles however if it's not optimal she starts to fall off I mean we can see that alrdy with Hoolay, who FF get get faster cycles at lower cost now imagine a boss without adds and 2.5M+ HP now rappa can't stack, as for AS we have to wait for a round that doesn't favor like the Sunday fight to call her performance in that mode. And in PF she is amazing ( as long as there's IMG and Fire Weakness ) because if both aren't there she struggles a bit but the new PF in 2.7 might benefit her more because of the constant adds.
if you are newer to the game the list changes 1. Aventurine - basic sustains dont do the job 2. second sustain / Gala, Lingxia/ Robin, RM, FF, Feixio HMC and M7 are free so dm.
I agree with your takes. 1) Rappa. I'm new to HSR and she's always on my team. The ability to break even when the elements don't match is perfect for a super break team. 2) Lingsha is my "Gallagher". I joined HSR too late to get Gallagher, so I don't have him but Lingsha took my account to another level. FUA and healing in one. Yes please. 3) It took me a while to understand why Harmony MC was so good, but as soon as I realized it, HMC has never left the team. Rappa, HMC and Lingsha are always on my team and I rotate Himeko, Herta and Serval for the last spot.
Thinking about pulling for Aventurine and his LC as a F2P but it'll literally cost me everything I have. Currently, I have no good sustains which is why I was thinking of getting him. However, I don't know how strong Sunday will be so I'm in a weird dilemma where I literally don't know what to do lol. If I get Aventurine, I'll have no more pulls for any other characters for like 2 more banners at least.
Grab Aventurine, skip his LC. That would be my advice, but the LC also depends on the team you're running him with. There's uh.. Trend of the Universal Market? That one works wonders for him in multiple team comps & if you have Gepard's LC by accident, that works out too.
@@Iyoverse Alright, I'll do that then since I have Trend of the Universal Market. After reading its effects, I now realise how good of an alternative that LC is. Thank you for the advice! I really appreciate it! (Also, this was a banger of a video lol).
I currently only have Loucha/Gallagher/Lynx as sustainers, (not a single preservation one.) and I would say if u have Gallagher and lynx you are good to go with them, specially with some eidolons of them. I be doing all the end game content since 1.4, would be better to wait for the new preservation/healer as it seems like every new character of these power creeps the one before lol. I wonder how the emanators of those path are gonna be.
@@SmallAnimations Yes and no, supports and healers like HuoHuo and RM are old AF yet are still going strong, they don't get easily powercrept and if you gonna mention Sparkle, she was never broken on release
as a F2P who has almost this entire list(missing Acheron,Lingsha and Aventurine though am slowly pulling on Aventurine's banner till it goes away) I can certainly say my only disagreement is not having Firefly on the list somewhere,weakness implant and being able to use the Aeon LC besides being able to be used with HMC makes her very nice for a F2P as can help you clear content you probably have no business being able to clear.
Firefly is probably one of the best options for anyone because her entire kit is built like she is the only character fighting, and so she is nearly unkillable unless you purposefully underpower her and play badly.
Top 10 list for this subject misleading because that implies there are actually 10 existing characters that are worth it for f2ps to actually roll and build. In reality there is only robin and ruan mei . New characters will powercreep everyone else, and they are not worth it by the time they rerun unless you are already close to finishing their team.
@@insertnamehere2022 More fun too, old characters get powercrept and makes you use new ones. Although when it happens to your waifu it must hurt. Thank god my Waifu is Robin haha 😆
@@IgnasV it’s more fun if you can afford that new shiny dps, most cannot, I still can’t full clear the 3 endgame modes myself only complete teams I have are firefly and dot, trying to build an Acheron team but by the time Jiaoqiu gets his rerun I’m sure Acheron will have already gotten powercreept 🙄
I think you overlooked some characters that are easy to get and pretty useful like clara she's not the best DPS but she is very F2P friendly and can still comfortably clear content . Or Xueyi who is a little hard to build but you can get her for free . And lastly Herta which you can also get for free and is really really good in pure fiction .
Hope I can get aventurine because I just spent the few jades I had on Acheron's LC. I have to admit it wasn't my best decision as a free to play because I'm no seeing so much improvement 😭
I'll never understand the notion that limited sustains are supposed to be good for f2p players and it's always content creators who aren't f2p that try to sell this idea. In a game where clear speed is everything for end game it's very expensive to invest your jades into limited sustains that provide lesser damage than dps characters ( dps needed for fast clears) in exchange for more survivability (survivability not needed for fast clears) limited sustains are good for dolphin type players who have high invested teams and can afford any characters they want + most likely use auto play i'll at least give you some props for only including one such character and not putting him crazily high (i've seen other content creators consider him to be the best f2p character) i think other than that the list is good but i find that there is a lack of tingyun with bronya being so highly rated
Depends where you are in your progression, when I was still with very limited characters and still progressing through the story it was night and day after I got Fu Xuan and she is not even as broken as any of the others premium sustains, not being able to survive or struggling to kill something because I had to constantly run a healer + someone tanking, mostly fire MC, was really hard. Unless you get early a very universal busted DPS with the team to make it work IMO at least 1 good sustain will make everything easier for you to progress.
I think you are right, my account is shit because I don't play frequently, but I still can beat hard content with my lynx, Gallagher and Gepard as sustains 😂 this version I will try to get Aventurine, but is not the end of the world if I don't get him.
This is so true, I only have Loucha as 5* sustainer, and he's by far the worst of them, the newer ones making him look like a 4*. And still I can beat the end game content since 1.4 lol
2 limited sustains is for sure the ideal scenario as a F2P but chasing sustains beyond that is outside the F2P range,however ones like Aventurine and Lingsha specifically that not only sustain but also contribute to the teams damage one way or another is very much worth considering whenever the banner placement timing is best for someone even as a F2P if have the teams they give extra contributions to.
skipped robin twice and no regrets using Acheron e0s1 and ff team so she doesnt really fit in those both team if I decide for summon meta then I ll continue not needing her fei Xiao is nice but with all the upcoming chars I dont think I can safe until her rerun the fua team would need me to invest in robin, feixiao and topaz (guess march 7 could be a replacement)
I was clearing my back logs of SU. I tried SU-SD with Dan IL & Robin with Prop path, I must say that path resonance is the most busted in SU (haven't played Nihilty & Erudition yet). Using the path res buff on Dan with Robin's Ult, I was getting turns back to back with no sp worries. I seriously now want Prop path to be made in future, that's gonna be busted.
Pela and Himeko as honourable mentions - totally agree, free plug in almost every team and free 30k in one side of PF. Mei - L number one. Without Gaymiko - she's unplayable(sig is whatever at this point). Skippa - L number two. Without sig - forget about comfort. Clearing content tailor made for her - not a big accomplishment, every new character does that. And in the future she will require Ting 2.0 and Fraud to function, it will be worse then Acheron situation. Fei - whatever. March 8 - rare lyo W. If you put TopAss here - it would be another L, for obvious reasons. Fraud - another L. 4* who will be back in one month - isn't free, but Limited 5* who we'll not see in 6 month - totally free, yeah, brain damage check. And she's not much better in the first place, outside of PF. Aven - whatever. Bronya - whatever. HMC - whatever. RM and Robin - whatever as well. And stop begging for likes and subs. If your content good enough - you will get them automatically. Apparently, you have alot of work to do.
honestly acheron over firefly is a little insane. e0s0 acheron is VERY very sucky. there isnt a single good f2p cone for her cause gnsw and choreo are both gacha gated and you need s5 just for it to be 30% less than her sig. firefly has aeon, and her teammates consist of a very universal support, a free unit, and a 4 star (that was free) compared to acheron’s better options
I tend to agree. But some people are not firefly fans like the maker of this list haha. I enjoy my E0 GNSW acheron but I have S5 GNSW. Firefly is MUCH easier to build a FTP team around no doubt. Well you need Harmony MC but...
Iyo i just started playing HSR 3 days ago, got incredibly lucky and got acheron with my first 8 pulls after the tutorial, then Clara from the begginer banner. What limited chars should i pull next? I really like Algaea design but i dont think ill have enough resources to pull for an entire remeberance team.. should i just go for firefly or fugue instead?
I think the only one I disagree with is the Rappa for 2 reasons. 1, yes Rappa is easy to play. Firefly is brain dead easy to play. To the point where it is boring, she is just that simple. But most importantly 2, Firefly provides a strong utility. Yes Rappa currently beats end game since everything is conveniently weak to Imaginary or Fire(for Lingsha/Galli.) Firefly...doesnt care about element. Her tech plus skill lets players bypass any elemental barrier for a floor in end game. That is very valuable. Its basically a better Silverwolf, which used to be praised as an amazing unit for f2p for that very reason. And her elemental implant was on 1 character with RNG. Firefly is guaranteed and hits the whole enemy on technique. Because of that, I would give the edge to Firefly for that utility. I think Rappa is technically stronger and more fun, but damage and fun isn't everything. All the other spots though I agree with. People think Bronya is dead; she aint. Still a solid character
Do I still need to pull Aventurine if I already have a decent build Lingsha? I've also heard that Aventurine shield don't affect the servant of the upcomming path "remembrance...
I'd say one or the other. Lingsha is far more universal though, you can slap her in FuA, Break, even with Acheron (with the lightcone though). Lingsha will not heal servants either so they are tied on that. Only the summoner can heal as of right now.
This video is more about characters who can clear content rather than being f2p friendly Acheron needs Jiaqiou (who's already gone) + Pela/Robin/Sparkle to do well e0/e2 Rappa needs her signature + the fox to keep her in meta + Ruan Mei + Lingsha/Gallagher Honestly if you're gonan do a vid like this take into account their teammates, their pros and cons, whether theyre lightcone dependent or not etc. Like 2.1 yea Acheron was very f2p friendly but now shes not bro be realistic please Atleast you list characters like March 7th hunt and Feixiao who are mlre f2p friendly
I've been seeing a few players make claims like these, but I haven't experienced that myself on multiple F2P accounts when testing. All of it is false (from my experience), but maybe I'm missing something. Is there something you guys are doing that makes these characters way worse for you as F2P compared to myself or others who have the opposite feeling? Maybe there's a new factor I'm unaware of.
@Iyoverse so let's say for Acheron she's very lightcone dependent just to make her more comfy. We see content is getting harder more hp every patch. Acheron needs people who can give her stacks fast so she can use her ultimate. One person who can do this is Jiaqiou which is f2p friendly but not easy to build. Apart from Jiaqiou is Silverwolf not many people have Silverwolf so there's that. Either those 2 with Pela. The rest of the nihility units are ass with her that's is lowering Acheron's value as a unit especially if these f2ps wanna use her for a long time. She's good in every single mode but if you don't have certain characters for her then the value diminish. Rappa without lc have energy issues one thing I've noticed with her hence why the lightcone is a must for that extra energy and av etc. If you want Rappa to do well in future content especially against other weaknesses you're gonna need to pull Fox lady. Rappa is very similar to Acheron because of the stacks she have from breaking and Fox lady helps with that. Once again if you don't have Ruan Mei then well..eidolons will have to do + hmc. Taking into account both of their teams cost, the average f2ps won't get this much. I do get it's nice to pick them up if you want a dps and build another team but is it worth it in the long run for Acheron? Who knows. Thinking about everyone being e0s0 except Acheron and Rappa, future stuff etc I think Acheron deserves to be above Rappa in terms of f2p friendly and flexibility. That's just my opinion.
@@simmereenplays I don’t get the Acheron part since this whole argument assumes we’d never get better options than jiaqiou for her in the future like genuinely think abt acherons best team and compare them to feixios best team i think it’s safe to say robin is leagues above jiaqiou aventurine is a cope synergy with Acheron due to it being entirely based off a lightcone and her 3rd best slot goes to a completely outdated 4 star? yet Acheron still keeps up despite her team being so much worse overall all this to say Acheron is far from falling off and her being raiden mei I don’t think it’s hard to believe better nihilty options come later down the line as Acheron is far from complete she only has 1 of the 3 pieces to her puzzle after all (and i don’t think she will ever be TOP of the meta again but she will definitely remain relevant)
@@kermitthefrog7963 @kermitthefrog7963 yeah a better Pela since she's the only 4 star on the team + Jiaqiou rerun even then she's still not f2p friendly Even Firefly team is more f2p friendly than that and firefly doesn't need her lightcone it's not a must have compared to Acheron This list is more about who's meta than who's f2p for your account Let's face it starting out these characters are f2p friendly but overtime they do get expensive same for Acheron you can't just slap any nihility on a e0 Acheron and expect to go unga bunga especially if you don't have her signature it's cope Hsr isn't as f2p friendly as it might seem I agree with everyone on the list except Rappa and Acheron those 2 especially Rappa are just way too expensive
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Top 3 IMO for a f2p to have or get is 3. Ruan Mei (she works everywhere and can be everywhere) 2. Robin (just like ruan mei but that 100% action forward on all units is crazy) 1. Aventurine. I believe Aventurine to be THE best character in all of hsr. (Keeps you from taking dmg, like you never die with him, sp positive, grants sp constantly so sp positive even at e0, as long as he keeps follow up attacking, can fit in loads of teams, crit, dot, hypercarry, dual dps, break, pure fiction, MoC, FuA, the only team he can't really go in is with like a team with blade, hes VERY easy to build and doesn't need his' lc at all, just build him as your only sustain and you survive every content in the game)
@pally3370 buffer wise yeah aventurine isn't top 3 but for casuals / f2ps aventurine is a top 3 even number 1 as you can clear everything with him comfortably on auto
You hate firefly don't you just admit it it's just blatant hate at this point HAHAHAHA i don't even have firefly but the hate is 😢 i have Acheron and all i can say is she needs that lightcone badly and from the videos i seen with ff having a f2p lightcone doing better is really a slap in the face when your favorite character is not doing so good All i can say is ff is very f2p friendly stop the ragebait iyo
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I'm so pissed about Rappa she came at the absolute worst time when I was saving for Aventurine. Not surprised about Bronya at all especially when using her with Booty. He's already a walking nuke she allows him to continuously nuke the hell out of the enemy
I went from 1 star MoC 12 to 3 stars on AUTO after I got Aventurine. Rappa will get a rerun in a few months.
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@@Iyoverse she's like in her 40s like cocolia
@@Iyoverse Serval is like... Old, old. 😂
A reasonable list. Himeko only making honorable mention is a bit debatable tho. Also had me laughing at some of the background footage, but maybe that was intentional. "Aventurine has the best shields in the game, and they're permanent!" cut to Feixiao with no shield and deep red health bar. "My GOD does [Robin] do damage!" cut to her dealing 9k damage with her procs 😂
aside the part that Firefly is not even an honorable mention, specially by how good she is, and the way she synergize so well to other break units and in the future, even if her damage isn't the best, she could still be an enabler by applying fire weakness to enemies, while still being very self suficient and surprisely bulky, well, aside it the list is really good, I will probably send to my friend who just started the game and only say "he just forgot to talk about Firefly", but overall great video, and makes me happy that people are recognizing Robin to be that good, I started playing the game because of her and Firefly, started in Robin's banner and got her as my first limited 5*, some people back them told me she isn't that good and is only good to buff critical damage, now some of them are crying that lost 50-50 in her rerun, while I had her since the very start of my account, she + a single good DPS definitively adds up, she buffs just so much ATK and damage delt, I remember using her with Firefly when I only had them, Harmony TB and not really well built chars
@@sarahharuka2811 cope
Recommending Acheron over Firefly in a f2p scenario is crazy, I have to disagree with this one
A e0s0 Acheron is way harder to play that a e0s0 firefly, if u don’t have e2 Acheron she’s very restrictive, firefly has her best teammates in a literal 4star healer, the free mc and a support that is so universally acclaimed that almost everybody already has her build, Acheron has almost no good f2p cones (boundless choreo is gacha gated) all in all Acheron takes way more investment to make her shine in the same level a s0e0 firefly with ruanmei and harmony mc
Any new player that is thinking going for the f2p route should try to get ff in her rerun over Acheron, an e0s0 ff + fugue is way better starting point, if u pull Acheron now as a f2p and don’t have enough to guarantee her e2 or at least her sig and u don’t have jq is game over
@@josemiguelsilva8995 firefly without RM is torture tbh. You don't break the enemy or keep them broken longer, which means you are overall doing significantly less damage. Acheron without JQ or her LC is doable, it just takes a little longer to build her ult, but even outside of that her team can still do okay damage.
@@daijoubun6648 Acheron at e0s0 does less damage that ff without ruan mei, I have both at e0s0 (I do have ruan mei but I have played ff without her) and it’s ridiculous how much easier to build and start using ff is, also the weakness implant is waaaay more useful that colourless brake
@@daijoubun6648 and in Acheron case it’s not just the time it takes to gain the stacks for the ultimate but also the fact that her damage suffers without a consistent deff shred and most nihility comes don’t gives the stats that Acheron needs, also building break effect is so much more easy that balancing crit values, that also makes ff easier and faster to just get her running in most accounts
I think Firefly is way better F2P unit and should above Acheron and around Rappa place. It's criminal she's not in the top.
Her 2nd best LC is the herta shop.
Her best support is free and RM is a unit the player should get either way, people can use March 7th as a substitute for those that don't have RM and Gallagher is great 4* that have high chance to rerun along side her.
Her weakness implants allow her to brute force most of the content.
And break DPS are way easier to build.
Acheron don't have a great F2P LC and Pela need the pearl LC or her E4 to generate stack for Acheron without her ultimate.
Ya 100% Rappa is amazing and in her optimal situation she is Better then BH and FF for cost to cycles however if it's not optimal she starts to fall off I mean we can see that alrdy with Hoolay, who FF get get faster cycles at lower cost now imagine a boss without adds and 2.5M+ HP now rappa can't stack, as for AS we have to wait for a round that doesn't favor like the Sunday fight to call her performance in that mode.
And in PF she is amazing ( as long as there's IMG and Fire Weakness ) because if both aren't there she struggles a bit but the new PF in 2.7 might benefit her more because of the constant adds.
Fax brother, spit your shit indeed.
@@The_CodFish69 Rappa isn't even good at pure fiction with imaginary weak if you don't have Ruan Mei like me :p
bruh rappa is literally just a much better character get real
@@camelnotllama She might be, but weakness implant + Lingsha / Gallagher helps her a whole ton.
if you are newer to the game the list changes
1. Aventurine - basic sustains dont do the job
2. second sustain / Gala, Lingxia/
Robin, RM, FF, Feixio
HMC and M7 are free so dm.
I agree with your takes.
1) Rappa. I'm new to HSR and she's always on my team. The ability to break even when the elements don't match is perfect for a super break team.
2) Lingsha is my "Gallagher". I joined HSR too late to get Gallagher, so I don't have him but Lingsha took my account to another level. FUA and healing in one. Yes please.
3) It took me a while to understand why Harmony MC was so good, but as soon as I realized it, HMC has never left the team.
Rappa, HMC and Lingsha are always on my team and I rotate Himeko, Herta and Serval for the last spot.
Thinking about pulling for Aventurine and his LC as a F2P but it'll literally cost me everything I have. Currently, I have no good sustains which is why I was thinking of getting him. However, I don't know how strong Sunday will be so I'm in a weird dilemma where I literally don't know what to do lol. If I get Aventurine, I'll have no more pulls for any other characters for like 2 more banners at least.
Grab Aventurine, skip his LC. That would be my advice, but the LC also depends on the team you're running him with. There's uh.. Trend of the Universal Market? That one works wonders for him in multiple team comps & if you have Gepard's LC by accident, that works out too.
@@Iyoverse Alright, I'll do that then since I have Trend of the Universal Market. After reading its effects, I now realise how good of an alternative that LC is. Thank you for the advice! I really appreciate it! (Also, this was a banger of a video lol).
Adventurine i swr you won't regret it. I just use Day one in my new life for him.
I currently only have Loucha/Gallagher/Lynx as sustainers, (not a single preservation one.) and I would say if u have Gallagher and lynx you are good to go with them, specially with some eidolons of them. I be doing all the end game content since 1.4, would be better to wait for the new preservation/healer as it seems like every new character of these power creeps the one before lol. I wonder how the emanators of those path are gonna be.
@@SmallAnimations
Yes and no, supports and healers like HuoHuo and RM are old AF yet are still going strong, they don't get easily powercrept and if you gonna mention Sparkle, she was never broken on release
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as a F2P who has almost this entire list(missing Acheron,Lingsha and Aventurine though am slowly pulling on Aventurine's banner till it goes away) I can certainly say my only disagreement is not having Firefly on the list somewhere,weakness implant and being able to use the Aeon LC besides being able to be used with HMC makes her very nice for a F2P as can help you clear content you probably have no business being able to clear.
Firefly is probably one of the best options for anyone because her entire kit is built like she is the only character fighting, and so she is nearly unkillable unless you purposefully underpower her and play badly.
Cant wait for this tier list to be outdated when those dps characters get powercrept in a few patches
Top 10 list for this subject misleading because that implies there are actually 10 existing characters that are worth it for f2ps to actually roll and build. In reality there is only robin and ruan mei . New characters will powercreep everyone else, and they are not worth it by the time they rerun unless you are already close to finishing their team.
@ yup pretty much which is exactly why I refuse to ever go for eidolons
@@insertnamehere2022 More fun too, old characters get powercrept and makes you use new ones. Although when it happens to your waifu it must hurt. Thank god my Waifu is Robin haha 😆
@@IgnasV it’s more fun if you can afford that new shiny dps, most cannot, I still can’t full clear the 3 endgame modes myself only complete teams I have are firefly and dot, trying to build an Acheron team but by the time Jiaoqiu gets his rerun I’m sure Acheron will have already gotten powercreept 🙄
@@insertnamehere2022 acheron and ff are 2 of the strongest characters in the game. They decimate all game modes you're totally fine
Iyos back with the FIRE
I think you overlooked some characters that are easy to get and pretty useful like clara she's not the best DPS but she is very F2P friendly and can still comfortably clear content . Or Xueyi who is a little hard to build but you can get her for free . And lastly Herta which you can also get for free and is really really good in pure fiction .
Yes please I needed this! I got Acheron but now I feel like I should’ve gone for Aventurine
Hope I can get aventurine because I just spent the few jades I had on Acheron's LC. I have to admit it wasn't my best decision as a free to play because I'm no seeing so much improvement 😭
I'll never understand the notion that limited sustains are supposed to be good for f2p players and it's always content creators who aren't f2p that try to sell this idea. In a game where clear speed is everything for end game it's very expensive to invest your jades into limited sustains that provide lesser damage than dps characters ( dps needed for fast clears) in exchange for more survivability (survivability not needed for fast clears)
limited sustains are good for dolphin type players who have high invested teams and can afford any characters they want + most likely use auto play
i'll at least give you some props for only including one such character and not putting him crazily high (i've seen other content creators consider him to be the best f2p character)
i think other than that the list is good but i find that there is a lack of tingyun with bronya being so highly rated
Even spender wouldnt want to use sustain cuz at that investment you can pretty much sustainless 0 cycle any content lol
Depends where you are in your progression, when I was still with very limited characters and still progressing through the story it was night and day after I got Fu Xuan and she is not even as broken as any of the others premium sustains, not being able to survive or struggling to kill something because I had to constantly run a healer + someone tanking, mostly fire MC, was really hard.
Unless you get early a very universal busted DPS with the team to make it work IMO at least 1 good sustain will make everything easier for you to progress.
I think you are right, my account is shit because I don't play frequently, but I still can beat hard content with my lynx, Gallagher and Gepard as sustains 😂 this version I will try to get Aventurine, but is not the end of the world if I don't get him.
This is so true, I only have Loucha as 5* sustainer, and he's by far the worst of them, the newer ones making him look like a 4*. And still I can beat the end game content since 1.4 lol
2 limited sustains is for sure the ideal scenario as a F2P but chasing sustains beyond that is outside the F2P range,however ones like Aventurine and Lingsha specifically that not only sustain but also contribute to the teams damage one way or another is very much worth considering whenever the banner placement timing is best for someone even as a F2P if have the teams they give extra contributions to.
skipped robin twice and no regrets
using Acheron e0s1 and ff team
so she doesnt really fit in those both team
if I decide for summon meta then I ll continue not needing her
fei Xiao is nice but with all the upcoming chars I dont think I can safe until her rerun
the fua team would need me to invest in robin, feixiao and topaz (guess march 7 could be a replacement)
"don't play like ass" ... Welp, I'm out then... That's my only strategy.
I was clearing my back logs of SU. I tried SU-SD with Dan IL & Robin with Prop path, I must say that path resonance is the most busted in SU (haven't played Nihilty & Erudition yet). Using the path res buff on Dan with Robin's Ult, I was getting turns back to back with no sp worries.
I seriously now want Prop path to be made in future, that's gonna be busted.
Iyo you talking a whole meme of your self talking about max traces when you don't even max yours 😂😂😂
I max all the traces of characters I actually use. lol
Pela and Himeko as honourable mentions - totally agree, free plug in almost every team and free 30k in one side of PF.
Mei - L number one. Without Gaymiko - she's unplayable(sig is whatever at this point).
Skippa - L number two. Without sig - forget about comfort. Clearing content tailor made for her - not a big accomplishment, every new character does that. And in the future she will require Ting 2.0 and Fraud to function, it will be worse then Acheron situation.
Fei - whatever.
March 8 - rare lyo W. If you put TopAss here - it would be another L, for obvious reasons.
Fraud - another L. 4* who will be back in one month - isn't free, but Limited 5* who we'll not see in 6 month - totally free, yeah, brain damage check. And she's not much better in the first place, outside of PF.
Aven - whatever.
Bronya - whatever.
HMC - whatever.
RM and Robin - whatever as well.
And stop begging for likes and subs. If your content good enough - you will get them automatically. Apparently, you have alot of work to do.
Another thing about Robin. If you overcap on ATK, you should switch to a physical damage orb since Robin does her own separate damage
Correction.
Robin is the best. RM is only BiS for Break and DoT. One of which she'll soon lose her place come 3.X onwards.
I am that person that went for firefly instead now I have to wait for ruan mei to come back on banner 😅
honestly acheron over firefly is a little insane. e0s0 acheron is VERY very sucky. there isnt a single good f2p cone for her cause gnsw and choreo are both gacha gated and you need s5 just for it to be 30% less than her sig. firefly has aeon, and her teammates consist of a very universal support, a free unit, and a 4 star (that was free) compared to acheron’s better options
I tend to agree. But some people are not firefly fans like the maker of this list haha. I enjoy my E0 GNSW acheron but I have S5 GNSW. Firefly is MUCH easier to build a FTP team around no doubt. Well you need Harmony MC but...
this is why you don't do drugs
I liked the list, nothing to say, really very satisfied!
Iyo i just started playing HSR 3 days ago, got incredibly lucky and got acheron with my first 8 pulls after the tutorial, then Clara from the begginer banner. What limited chars should i pull next? I really like Algaea design but i dont think ill have enough resources to pull for an entire remeberance team.. should i just go for firefly or fugue instead?
i started hsr not long ago and i want ruan mei so bad i really hope she gets a rerun soon 😞 (not too soon though cause i want sunday and boothill)
Robin is immune to MOST CC. She can still be CCd by things like Something Unto Death and Svarog hand. Great video as always tho ♥
I think the only one I disagree with is the Rappa for 2 reasons. 1, yes Rappa is easy to play. Firefly is brain dead easy to play. To the point where it is boring, she is just that simple. But most importantly 2, Firefly provides a strong utility. Yes Rappa currently beats end game since everything is conveniently weak to Imaginary or Fire(for Lingsha/Galli.) Firefly...doesnt care about element. Her tech plus skill lets players bypass any elemental barrier for a floor in end game. That is very valuable.
Its basically a better Silverwolf, which used to be praised as an amazing unit for f2p for that very reason. And her elemental implant was on 1 character with RNG. Firefly is guaranteed and hits the whole enemy on technique. Because of that, I would give the edge to Firefly for that utility. I think Rappa is technically stronger and more fun, but damage and fun isn't everything. All the other spots though I agree with. People think Bronya is dead; she aint. Still a solid character
putting acheron, rappa, and half of these characters abpve firefly is delusional by an insane margin. Where does the bias come from?
great list and all, but the nikke bgm had me geeking 😭
i'll disagree on Robin having dps herself , at least in e0 and not her cone. for the buff , you get 3 turns with the buff and one without , right?
hi iyo-san
Yoooooo
@Iyoverse sad Acheron has fallen from grace this early on smh
Is harmony mc, rappa, lynx, march hunt good team? New player here
Do I still need to pull Aventurine if I already have a decent build Lingsha? I've also heard that Aventurine shield don't affect the servant of the upcomming path "remembrance...
I'd say one or the other. Lingsha is far more universal though, you can slap her in FuA, Break, even with Acheron (with the lightcone though). Lingsha will not heal servants either so they are tied on that. Only the summoner can heal as of right now.
we're not leveling our traces with this one
That was a pidgeot tho...
Hunt March does a fraction of the damage of Acheron or Feixiao. I really don't get why people claim that she can carry.....
enhanced basic attack😮
her enhanced basic attack
This video is more about characters who can clear content rather than being f2p friendly
Acheron needs Jiaqiou (who's already gone) + Pela/Robin/Sparkle to do well e0/e2
Rappa needs her signature + the fox to keep her in meta + Ruan Mei + Lingsha/Gallagher
Honestly if you're gonan do a vid like this take into account their teammates, their pros and cons, whether theyre lightcone dependent or not etc.
Like 2.1 yea Acheron was very f2p friendly but now shes not bro be realistic please
Atleast you list characters like March 7th hunt and Feixiao who are mlre f2p friendly
I've been seeing a few players make claims like these, but I haven't experienced that myself on multiple F2P accounts when testing. All of it is false (from my experience), but maybe I'm missing something. Is there something you guys are doing that makes these characters way worse for you as F2P compared to myself or others who have the opposite feeling? Maybe there's a new factor I'm unaware of.
@Iyoverse so let's say for Acheron she's very lightcone dependent just to make her more comfy. We see content is getting harder more hp every patch. Acheron needs people who can give her stacks fast so she can use her ultimate. One person who can do this is Jiaqiou which is f2p friendly but not easy to build. Apart from Jiaqiou is Silverwolf not many people have Silverwolf so there's that. Either those 2 with Pela. The rest of the nihility units are ass with her that's is lowering Acheron's value as a unit especially if these f2ps wanna use her for a long time. She's good in every single mode but if you don't have certain characters for her then the value diminish.
Rappa without lc have energy issues one thing I've noticed with her hence why the lightcone is a must for that extra energy and av etc. If you want Rappa to do well in future content especially against other weaknesses you're gonna need to pull Fox lady. Rappa is very similar to Acheron because of the stacks she have from breaking and Fox lady helps with that. Once again if you don't have Ruan Mei then well..eidolons will have to do + hmc. Taking into account both of their teams cost, the average f2ps won't get this much. I do get it's nice to pick them up if you want a dps and build another team but is it worth it in the long run for Acheron? Who knows. Thinking about everyone being e0s0 except Acheron and Rappa, future stuff etc I think Acheron deserves to be above Rappa in terms of f2p friendly and flexibility. That's just my opinion.
@@simmereenplays I don’t get the Acheron part since this whole argument assumes we’d never get better options than jiaqiou for her in the future like genuinely think abt acherons best team and compare them to feixios best team i think it’s safe to say robin is leagues above jiaqiou aventurine is a cope synergy with Acheron due to it being entirely based off a lightcone and her 3rd best slot goes to a completely outdated 4 star? yet Acheron still keeps up despite her team being so much worse overall all this to say Acheron is far from falling off and her being raiden mei I don’t think it’s hard to believe better nihilty options come later down the line as Acheron is far from complete she only has 1 of the 3 pieces to her puzzle after all (and i don’t think she will ever be TOP of the meta again but she will definitely remain relevant)
@@kermitthefrog7963 I tend to agree. There seems to be teammates for Acheron that will still come.
@@kermitthefrog7963 @kermitthefrog7963 yeah a better Pela since she's the only 4 star on the team + Jiaqiou rerun even then she's still not f2p friendly
Even Firefly team is more f2p friendly than that and firefly doesn't need her lightcone it's not a must have compared to Acheron
This list is more about who's meta than who's f2p for your account
Let's face it starting out these characters are f2p friendly but overtime they do get expensive same for Acheron you can't just slap any nihility on a e0 Acheron and expect to go unga bunga especially if you don't have her signature it's cope
Hsr isn't as f2p friendly as it might seem I agree with everyone on the list except Rappa and Acheron those 2 especially Rappa are just way too expensive
Hey iyo I'm having issues clearing some content and I could use the help building teams so I hope you see this and can help a fellow out ❤
Always down to help out! If you find yourself in one of my streams I can help you live. If not, joining my discord can help too. I’ve got a whole section for it.
@ aye what's the discord link literally can't find it anywhere
Early today ;D
I feel like Hoyo definitely fucked up with Robin, like she’s not general enough to be an all-use support, but she’s not specific enough for FUA teams
Early!!
predicting a ton of supports and 2 dps.
wait what
gallagher was handed for free?
how did I miss that ?
around his release a couple events had a 4 star selector as a reward and he was a choice in the selector.
@@naotokujikawa2751 ahhhh no wonder I can't remember
had him e6 prior to that I think haha
Top 3 IMO for a f2p to have or get is 3. Ruan Mei (she works everywhere and can be everywhere) 2. Robin (just like ruan mei but that 100% action forward on all units is crazy) 1. Aventurine. I believe Aventurine to be THE best character in all of hsr. (Keeps you from taking dmg, like you never die with him, sp positive, grants sp constantly so sp positive even at e0, as long as he keeps follow up attacking, can fit in loads of teams, crit, dot, hypercarry, dual dps, break, pure fiction, MoC, FuA, the only team he can't really go in is with like a team with blade, hes VERY easy to build and doesn't need his' lc at all, just build him as your only sustain and you survive every content in the game)
Unfortunately a sustain is never required persay for a run, but I do believe Aventurine is top 3 for casuals. 100%
@pally3370 buffer wise yeah aventurine isn't top 3 but for casuals / f2ps aventurine is a top 3 even number 1 as you can clear everything with him comfortably on auto
He is not the best lol. Overrated glazed sustain.
You hate firefly don't you just admit it it's just blatant hate at this point HAHAHAHA i don't even have firefly but the hate is 😢 i have Acheron and all i can say is she needs that lightcone badly and from the videos i seen with ff having a f2p lightcone doing better is really a slap in the face when your favorite character is not doing so good
All i can say is ff is very f2p friendly stop the ragebait iyo
Scuffed List RM>Robin.
#BlameSerra
@@Iyoverse how you blaming me... RM Always ahead of Robin for New/F2P. RM raises your floor Robin raises your ceiling.
When is bro gonna stop putting seele in the thumbnail of tier list video ?
@@nk30020 When a new Seele comes out.
Well maxing your traces improve that d-
Exactly. LMFAO
earlyyyy :3
What's your top 10 best characters for F2P?
You know how hard it was for my bias to not put Seele in the top 10?
Robin, Robin, Robin, Robin, Robin, Robin, Robin, Ruan Mei, Ruan Mei, Feixiao
@@madrain9898 in 2 weeks it’s gonna look like Sunday Sunday Sunday Sunday Sunday Robin Robin Robin Robin Ruan Mei
It is funny I've only played & built one of these 10, maybe that's why I fell off the game so much.
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Did you add the Methaphor Refantazo Battle theme in sponsor section? Yet no Methaphor content or Stream, unsubscribe
Oh I should've! Cause I don't remember doing it, but that would've been banger if I did.
@ You still have time; Im just saying
Lingsha > Galadeadge
This video was complete nonsense for the first 3 minutes so I gave it a thumbs down.
@@Lysergi25 ok but did you REALLY have to comment this?😅