Hey Crazy. Just wanted to say that you, Ortaga and Verifiled are the only ones keeping this game enjoyable so thanks for the videos :) also they gotta fix their game
@@bryanu1737 I unsubscribed quickly. His content is horrible and the worst "Face" for Morty Players and it's sad. Same boring content same repetitive videos (he's very hypocritical in each thumbnail) "I dropped Morty" I picked up Morty again" "Morty was Nerfed" "Morty was Buffed" same lame garbage.
If there is one thing out of Tom and Jerry's kit that I would Nerf, it'd be his up tilt. There's no reason she should have a hitbox In front of it and then above him 🤦🏿♂️
Ofc it should There s only one hitbox at the start and at the end Like for real how are you going to hit that move if the opponent stay grounded ? For real it only grabs bigs opponent in the consecutives hits if u missed the move And that s so punishing to whiff that move as you have to wait like 90 % of the mobe to pass before you can dodge
i theres one thing ud nerf its the one thing he has... wow how big brain of u. he has literally nothing else going for him other than his up tilt rn in 1s and we all know thats getting nerfed.
@@bigalbigs1 it means that people want the character to be weakened, like changed to do less damage, ti be less reliable on this or this attack etc.... As the game is pretty unbalanced people keep asking for nerf Or the oppoqite thing of nerf that are buffs (so strenghen a character)
@lukasfaucher thxs man really appreciate the info, I actually think it's a amazing game I just see alot of very skilled players but then again I'm new so I don't see what you guys see but I'm learning.
If y’all really complain about up tilt Tom and hit box idk if y’all are blind but u could clearly see Tom brings out paddle in the front then goes up which is why he catches them in front. Also he catches them in front cuz their opponent is an inch away obiously he gunna get brought up 🤦♂️
Now that the update is out this toms ganna have to start using other combos then slingshot jerry into slingshot jerry loop🤝 i dont even use that combo bro
In my humble opinion they should make Jerry weaker like die to one hit and when u hit a player, that should fix the spam and the loop Great video, but obviusly its a bad match for superman );
Loving the videos CrazyNoc, you're really fun to watch and the rage moments are funny as well but I agree with them. You're one of the only ones keeping this broken and half dead game alive 🙏🙏
Its crazy how people complain about tom and jerry when they are easily punishable and pretty solid characters unlike joker ww arya shaggy black adam etc
@@Zomesura I disagree, he's still got insane KO potential and the hyper armor on his attacks remains a persistent threat. Zoning and patience are crucial though
It’s a little bit sad to see that the meta is just how good of a combo game your character has, other fighters like banana guard don’t go much farther just because of that. I do still think the game should have combos, but not like this, from 0 to 40 is just an unfair advantage and more if you can just keep doing it the rest of the game. Still love your vids CrazyNoc! Keep up the good work!
Yall complaining about 0-40 combos when smash brothers has over 40 characters that can do 0-40 combos like what do you people want no combos at all or every character in the game to have combos
What are you saying Tom and Jerry is extremely good and it’s easy to play on a high level with him without keybinds and it’s harder to punish him then most characters in the game
Honestly he's not even a good Tom and Jerry because all he did was open up with that same move everytime and did nothing else and he spammed the same loop combo each and every time like that's the only reason he's number 1 is because he spammed that shit and you honestly could've countered every move he did like that move he used to open up you could've done an armored attack like charged neutral or up attack because he would have to either switch up his Playstyle or play more passive
He’s beat all the the other top Tom’s by miles ( not even close) he makes it look easy but trying playing Tom to diamond or masters doing the loop you’ll realize it’s not that simple
Also this is the most optimal way to play tom in ones sadly all his other moves are too slow, you can play a style which your in the air a lot (which he did as well most of the match as you saw) against Arya and fin that comes in handy, then he loops if they mess up
ur understanding of the game is seemingly still very undeveloped if u think theres nothing impressive in hardcorefoxes gameplay. U still got a lot of learning to do lil bud
@@Tenxeh you’re making it sound easier than it is. I am newer to the matchup but it’s not that easy. I would be curious to see how you do against him. I’ll take your tips though! 😎
This video is the reason why hate this P.O.S character. Tom and Jerry are so annoying to fight against... yet other characters get nerfed and not the garbage they can do. Losing Jerry is not punishing enough for Tom. Jerry for what its worth Jerry can be annoying to kill as well. Easy loops and its so hard to land against that character. Whats worst is his up attack the Paddle Ball. Not everyone can really deal with it well. If i try to go under and hit his side i still get clipped by that stupid attack. Even if i go out of my way to Erase Jerry. Like no Joke Losong Jerry doesnt change What tom can do. He looses 2 moves but thats it. He keeps everything else. You did well btw sorry for my rant. 😮💨
I mean Tom and jerry, according to the opinion of several good players (nakat, void and others) is one of the most balanced character yet in the game. If you have problem dealing with them it is a skill issue. A part from the first and last hit the paddle doesn t touch at all mid hight opponent (like shaggy) and you need to jump to get absorbed into the move. Also u mustn t be diing at all as mixing up your di will make it really hard to connect the whole move So if u play well the loops aren t easy at all. Loosing jerry doesn t seem that punishing but in fact it really is, just u don t think about it all. Like loosing jerry basically means loosing every good fast projectile tom has a part from the dynamites, his neuteral special becomes useless, so once again no projectile. His up b looses like 90 % of its raw power without jerry, so no jerry equals = no paddle into up b that kills around 80 really light characters. No jerry meanq no set up No jerry means no terrain control No jerry means no way to extremely pressure his opponent And no jerry means no way out of disavantage and nothing to cover tom s recovery (and tom and jerry have one hell of a disavantage, against good player being in disavantage without jerry means death even at 0 percent). Oh and loosing jerry means no loop too. It is punishing to loose jerry for tom In particular if u can punish him trying to regrab jerry and if you are able to kill jerry every tile he is out. It breaks 90 % of TNJ gameplan. And his normals, a part dair and sair are not good, really. So they absolutly don t need to gey nerf, that s just a skill issue on your part i think. As TNJ aren t a character you see as often as a joker, wonderwoman, harley etc.... i think it is a good indicator that he isn t broken. Hope it helped !
@@lukasfaucher I don't care what Nakat says anymore. He thought Wonder woman was fine and everyone else was complaining. So fuck that noise. But thanks for your advice on everything else. You are the only T&M player that answered my fucking question.
hows loosing jerry not punishing enough for tom? He literally becomes the worst character in the roster until jerry is back. No other character suffers from getting this hard punished as tom does. tom has the longest whiff punish window in the entire game by miles on his up tilt and a long window where u can punish him for loosing jerry too. No other char punishes u for mistakes as much as tom does. thats why hes so hard to play and why u need to play more passive and careful with him than any other char.
@@The_WIll_OF_D99 you welcome ! Don t hesitate to watch players like unpainful They are awsome TNJ players So you can see what they do and understand their gameplans And also see what destroys them !
@@lukasfaucher Noted. I fought them here and there they don't seem to be as popular. I would have likely found this solution eventually but I rarely see them like Iron Giant or whatever.
Hey Crazy.
Just wanted to say that you, Ortaga and Verifiled are the only ones keeping this game enjoyable so thanks for the videos :)
also they gotta fix their game
@@bryanu1737 you unironically watch him? Verifiled I mean. 🤔
right
@@The_WIll_OF_D99 well i watch him every now and then but his videos are getting repetitive
Verified is lame crazy and ortaga carryin
@@bryanu1737 I unsubscribed quickly. His content is horrible and the worst "Face" for Morty Players and it's sad.
Same boring content same repetitive videos (he's very hypocritical in each thumbnail) "I dropped Morty" I picked up Morty again"
"Morty was Nerfed" "Morty was Buffed" same lame garbage.
Take a shot every time he's in burnout as Supes
If there is one thing out of Tom and Jerry's kit that I would Nerf, it'd be his up tilt. There's no reason she should have a hitbox In front of it and then above him 🤦🏿♂️
Ofc it should
There s only one hitbox at the start and at the end
Like for real how are you going to hit that move if the opponent stay grounded ?
For real it only grabs bigs opponent in the consecutives hits if u missed the move
And that s so punishing to whiff that move as you have to wait like 90 % of the mobe to pass before you can dodge
i theres one thing ud nerf its the one thing he has... wow how big brain of u. he has literally nothing else going for him other than his up tilt rn in 1s and we all know thats getting nerfed.
I'm new to Muli so I'm watching mad videos to learn n I keep seeing people saying "NERF" what does that mean? 🤔
@@bigalbigs1 it means that people want the character to be weakened, like changed to do less damage, ti be less reliable on this or this attack etc....
As the game is pretty unbalanced people keep asking for nerf
Or the oppoqite thing of nerf that are buffs (so strenghen a character)
@lukasfaucher thxs man really appreciate the info, I actually think it's a amazing game I just see alot of very skilled players but then again I'm new so I don't see what you guys see but I'm learning.
This game is so frustrating lol
Yo it makes me happy that I’m not the only one that be raging everytime I be losing
This is an extreme hard match...
1:50 you clearly see this man's punch go through him, didn't even dodge as well
hate his hitbox
If y’all really complain about up tilt Tom and hit box idk if y’all are blind but u could clearly see Tom brings out paddle in the front then goes up which is why he catches them in front. Also he catches them in front cuz their opponent is an inch away obiously he gunna get brought up 🤦♂️
@@zinq-zinq4059tell me you’re a Tom and Jerry main without telling me you’re a Tom and Jerry main
Oof! This is the game at its worst! Forever combos. Solid video!! Great content as always
dudes insane
7:41 He is sooo good!
I slowed it down to .25x speed at 15:19 to see if he really dodged it, and he didn't. That's crazy. 😂
look dude, if you think T&J is a top tier the least you can do is to share your dealer's number with us
Now that the update is out this toms ganna have to start using other combos then slingshot jerry into slingshot jerry loop🤝 i dont even use that combo bro
In my humble opinion they should make Jerry weaker like die to one hit and when u hit a player, that should fix the spam and the loop
Great video, but obviusly its a bad match for superman );
Except the loop works without Jerry (: character is broken. Nerf the loop asap.
@@yawns3004 wrong.
Skill issue if u get loop without jerry has it is not true
I definitely don’t agree I don’t think Tom and Jerry should be nerfed at all. Only thing that was good was taking the infinite away.
My son fr, Fox I want you to know I still have the screenshot of my 3 stock on you.
no one cares ur not known
congrats ur really good at a game that fucking sucks
Loving the videos CrazyNoc, you're really fun to watch and the rage moments are funny as well but I agree with them. You're one of the only ones keeping this broken and half dead game alive 🙏🙏
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@@gee4964 W
Its crazy how people complain about tom and jerry when they are easily punishable and pretty solid characters unlike joker ww arya shaggy black adam etc
@@LemonEditsAndReviews those characters you named are overall better but you can’t deny Tom and Jerry is still insane.
My man named the most busted in the game lol
@@jonathanchavez8881 I meant compared to those characters tom and jerry are solid and aren't half as busted
@@CrazyNocnot rlly insane tom is easy to punish and he has very weak moves just play smarter around him
Don’t understand how this bro is master with Superman im a gold bugs and I would destroy him. I’m down to 1v1
prolly cus he plays more and the jab loop
Any fast character like Bugs can obliterate poor superman lol, it's not a skill issue but he's just in a TERRIBLE spot rn.
@@Zomesura I disagree, he's still got insane KO potential and the hyper armor on his attacks remains a persistent threat. Zoning and patience are crucial though
TnJ is highkey top 3 in the ghe game
don't worry its just a skill issue 😭hes quite insane
Yea right lol
It’s a little bit sad to see that the meta is just how good of a combo game your character has, other fighters like banana guard don’t go much farther just because of that. I do still think the game should have combos, but not like this, from 0 to 40 is just an unfair advantage and more if you can just keep doing it the rest of the game. Still love your vids CrazyNoc! Keep up the good work!
@@Nachetongo appreciate you! Really hoping for a good patch this mid season. I believe this game will change for the better over the seasons
The 0 to 40 % depends on if u have a predictable di or not, that s it the jey to get away from TNJ
Yall complaining about 0-40 combos when smash brothers has over 40 characters that can do 0-40 combos like what do you people want no combos at all or every character in the game to have combos
I played him and got 50 damage the whole match😂
Pin me if you a real one
@@bvgzbvnny comment on the next video if you’re a real one
This tnj is so mid dude does nothing but loops
Bro it’s a fighting game 🤣
Tbf it's the game's fault for having these unfair loops
@@Percoseti he’s definitely good but for sure the loops are broken. He knows it too. He’s a chill guy and doesn’t downplay his character
Tom and jerry is not that good, and to make him good every move has to ve customized and set to a keybind hes insanely insanely punishable
What are you saying Tom and Jerry is extremely good and it’s easy to play on a high level with him without keybinds and it’s harder to punish him then most characters in the game
Not flaming but pls do a video on how to punish him cause i really don't know how do you do it
Honestly he's not even a good Tom and Jerry because all he did was open up with that same move everytime and did nothing else and he spammed the same loop combo each and every time like that's the only reason he's number 1 is because he spammed that shit and you honestly could've countered every move he did like that move he used to open up you could've done an armored attack like charged neutral or up attack because he would have to either switch up his Playstyle or play more passive
Have you ever played against him?
He’s beat all the the other top Tom’s by miles ( not even close) he makes it look easy but trying playing Tom to diamond or masters doing the loop you’ll realize it’s not that simple
Also this is the most optimal way to play tom in ones sadly all his other moves are too slow, you can play a style which your in the air a lot (which he did as well most of the match as you saw) against Arya and fin that comes in handy, then he loops if they mess up
ur understanding of the game is seemingly still very undeveloped if u think theres nothing impressive in hardcorefoxes gameplay. U still got a lot of learning to do lil bud
@@Tenxeh you’re making it sound easier than it is. I am newer to the matchup but it’s not that easy. I would be curious to see how you do against him. I’ll take your tips though! 😎
This video is the reason why hate this P.O.S character. Tom and Jerry are so annoying to fight against... yet other characters get nerfed and not the garbage they can do.
Losing Jerry is not punishing enough for Tom. Jerry for what its worth Jerry can be annoying to kill as well.
Easy loops and its so hard to land against that character. Whats worst is his up attack the Paddle Ball. Not everyone can really deal with it well. If i try to go under and hit his side i still get clipped by that stupid attack. Even if i go out of my way to Erase Jerry.
Like no Joke Losong Jerry doesnt change What tom can do. He looses 2 moves but thats it. He keeps everything else.
You did well btw sorry for my rant. 😮💨
I mean
Tom and jerry, according to the opinion of several good players (nakat, void and others) is one of the most balanced character yet in the game. If you have problem dealing with them it is a skill issue.
A part from the first and last hit the paddle doesn t touch at all mid hight opponent (like shaggy) and you need to jump to get absorbed into the move. Also u mustn t be diing at all as mixing up your di will make it really hard to connect the whole move
So if u play well the loops aren t easy at all.
Loosing jerry doesn t seem that punishing but in fact it really is, just u don t think about it all. Like loosing jerry basically means loosing every good fast projectile tom has a part from the dynamites, his neuteral special becomes useless, so once again no projectile. His up b looses like 90 % of its raw power without jerry, so no jerry equals = no paddle into up b that kills around 80 really light characters.
No jerry meanq no set up
No jerry means no terrain control
No jerry means no way to extremely pressure his opponent
And no jerry means no way out of disavantage and nothing to cover tom s recovery (and tom and jerry have one hell of a disavantage, against good player being in disavantage without jerry means death even at 0 percent).
Oh and loosing jerry means no loop too.
It is punishing to loose jerry for tom
In particular if u can punish him trying to regrab jerry and if you are able to kill jerry every tile he is out.
It breaks 90 % of TNJ gameplan.
And his normals, a part dair and sair are not good, really.
So they absolutly don t need to gey nerf, that s just a skill issue on your part i think. As TNJ aren t a character you see as often as a joker, wonderwoman, harley etc.... i think it is a good indicator that he isn t broken.
Hope it helped !
@@lukasfaucher I don't care what Nakat says anymore. He thought Wonder woman was fine and everyone else was complaining. So fuck that noise.
But thanks for your advice on everything else. You are the only T&M player that answered my fucking question.
hows loosing jerry not punishing enough for tom? He literally becomes the worst character in the roster until jerry is back. No other character suffers from getting this hard punished as tom does. tom has the longest whiff punish window in the entire game by miles on his up tilt and a long window where u can punish him for loosing jerry too. No other char punishes u for mistakes as much as tom does. thats why hes so hard to play and why u need to play more passive and careful with him than any other char.
@@The_WIll_OF_D99 you welcome ! Don t hesitate to watch players like unpainful
They are awsome TNJ players
So you can see what they do and understand their gameplans
And also see what destroys them !
@@lukasfaucher Noted. I fought them here and there they don't seem to be as popular. I would have likely found this solution eventually but I rarely see them like Iron Giant or whatever.