I feel like an evil Cadence would be obsessive and controlling. That could’ve been a really cool storyline to explore later on in the series; when love/friendship takes a bad turn.
and she breaks hearts to make people depserate for attention and love...so They look up to her...and that's not she keeps control and them obsessed over her.
@@Anikathewolf It’s easy. All you have to do is type Reforming Chrysalis, Reforming Cozy Glow and Reforming Tirek in that order and you’ll find them. And check out the comments I made for each of them and let me know what you think.
How you know it's dawnrise Did you forget midnight sparkle? Not only the human world also equestria Sci-twi and Twilight are the SAME person(sorry I REALLY don't know how to explain mlp things)
Are you kidding? A cadence that can make ponies fall in love? She would easily conquer the whole of equestria, they would give her the crown. All shall Love ME and despair!
I kinda like how the normal and evil versions are opposites ☀️ celestia-daybreaker 🌙 Luna-nightmare moon ❤️ Cadence-heartbreaker ✨ Twilight-midnight sparkle
Only the main characters or side characters get an evil counterpart. Tho I'm going to make one for Mr and Mrs. Cake now. ( Sombra mind control doesn't count.)
Theory story of queen chrysalis: (can’t decide on name) was a third princess, bringing the stars into view for foals to count before bed. She wasn’t related to the royal sisters, but only them knew. One day, she found out her family was a group of rock farmers (yes she is related to Pinkie Pie) that were dull colored and boring but past chrysalis wasn’t because of a spell that made her think she actually looked like she would be royalty. The jealous alicorn (she was enchanted to have unicorn and Pegasus magic by the sisters) turned into queen chrysalis and left canterlot. She then realized the amount of power she had, being able to transform and feed off of love. She built a hive and started the changeling species using pure magic to make it so she could create more, and when she found out about the royal wedding, she made a plan to replace princess Cadence and after success she started working on a plan to imprison the sisters and control the sun, moon, as well as the stars
In my view, the "nightmare force" is not a parasite... it is not even conscious. Think, the nightmare force in Luna didn't do bad things because that made her strong, she did bad things based on Luna's wish before transforming: To be adored...to be important. So much so that when she appears in episodes 1 and 2 of the first season, her first reaction is to be frustrated at being forgotten... just as Luna felt frustrated at not being seen... not being adored. The strength of the nightmare is just a representation of the being's subconscious. When you hold on to bad feelings, eventually they come back worse...but they are not aware...it is just you...without all the other feelings. Imagine the following situation: Take away Luna's empathy, love, gratitude, sadness and joy and leave only the following emotions: Anger, envy and resentment. It's exactly how the nightmare moon behaves
4:20 and the best thing about it is that some people thought about the same thing like 10 years ago - the fan animation "The Fall of the Crystal Empire" shows how she got infected and yeah that's mindblowing
@@AngelofSpeed Thank you for making this comment, I forgot to upload that last video. I have it uploaded now: ruclips.net/video/C1_NRxPw-xc/видео.html
these are nice to see. I didn't even know about the drama with Sawtooth until I saw the comments on one of these videos. It's really nostalgic to see them again. I miss getting to watch these mlp theory videos.
i feel like Cadence's evil side would be Inactivity I would say. "Cadence" literally means a rythmic end of a song or set of words An antonym of Cadence is Inactivity, so it would work.
In my school vr game the nightmare parasites are bioweapons made by the vok and most memorable use of the nightmare force is the Maraudar he's absolute powerhouse that in a recent battle he took on the infernal demons gorrormorrh and the madam butterfly both from series called bayonetta and the fight ended with a neck snapped madam butterfly and a broken jaw gorrormorrh
im now thinking about something that wasnt thought of in this video if the nightmare force dates way back and corrupted stigian, how was it able to possess other characters such as luna if the nightmare force was stuck in limbo with the pillars ? luna turned into nightmare moon and sombra was sombra while it was in limbo with the pillars so that doesnt make sense
Theory: All of the alicorns are capable of taking on the nightmare form but they never let it crack, except for Luna. Now you may be asking about the others like sombra I think it’s a different story
Was gonna talk about how Cadance's superior form? would have had something to do with love but it seems like everyone else took care of that. BTW, great names, Anika and Azura. Super creative.🤩
i think everyone saying that cadance evil form would be called "heart breaker" forgets that every evil form has a different name, using the same word for both daybreaker and cadance evil form "heart breaker" wouldn't fit. My take is to just call her "heart crusher" or "love crusher". That way she gets a different name with the same idea.
If figured it out the pony of shadows gave it to sambra and he gave it to luna and luna gave it to celestia gave cadance her alicorn magic cadance has one and because cadance is twilghts sister in law cadance gave it to twilght and when fleryheart was born twilght gave it to fleryheart because twilght is her unt
I know, I'm late with this comment, but on your video about "Stallicorns" (Male alicorns), Sombra could have been the first male alicorn before the "parasite"
Ok, so the thing with the stages could be a very good aspect. The thing is: when Luna fought against King Sombra, it was shown that with her amount of rage, her appearance also started to change. She first started to change her eyes, then her color, and then she became a kind of mix between Princess Luna and Nightmare Moon. So if the theory with how Luna became Nightmare Moon is indeed the correct way of how it was, it would align perfectly with this theory ❤
Maybe they might be different one for each one I got earth bunnies, the icons and the sky I don’t know what those sky ones names so that’s the name in sky one for me. They’re all different the same person, but it takes different stages for different of the pony
Evil cadance is gonna be Heartbreaker,heartbreaker is gonna spread hate Ponies will hate each other like what happened back in the past the three thrives fought each other but worse,Twilight and her friends will be controled too but i think Twilight escaped.Twilight will warn shining armor and flurry heart.Twilight will make them stay in a safe place maybe at starlights place.But i think Princess Celestia and Princess luna will be Daybreaker and Nightmare Moon where guards will fight them but they will obviously fail three alicorns that one that spreads hate one that gives us nightmares and make our day bad.Twilight will find something that help maybe shes gonna travel to another timeline and get the five back and the elements of harmony.And the timeline Twilight now ruled and her friends getting an army of all timelines and the normal Princess Cadance,Princess Luna,Princess Celestia an army and also many discords.
It does feel like you traveled to another dimension where Daybreaker is a thing in that universe’s version of MLP FiM: and you got lucky you didn’t start glitching like in SpiderMan Into The Spider Verse (by the way fantastic movie go watch it, I haven’t seen its sequel Across the Spider Verse yet but I hear it’s also amazing)
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I feel like an evil Cadence would be obsessive and controlling. That could’ve been a really cool storyline to explore later on in the series; when love/friendship takes a bad turn.
and she breaks hearts to make people depserate for attention and love...so They look up to her...and that's not she keeps control and them obsessed over her.
Or maybe a yandere
Evil Cadance would definitely be Heartbreaker 😄
I never thought about that. This video helped me out.
@@sergioandrescontreras5251 😄
@@sergioandrescontreras5251 ok, I’ll check them out if I can find them
@@Anikathewolf It’s easy. All you have to do is type Reforming Chrysalis, Reforming Cozy Glow and Reforming Tirek in that order and you’ll find them. And check out the comments I made for each of them and let me know what you think.
@@sergioandrescontreras5251 ok 👍
Luna🌙- Nightmare Moon🦇🌃
Celestia☀️- Daybreaker🐦🔥🌇
Cadence🩵- Heartkiller💔💠
Twilight✨- Dawnrise🔮🌅
How you know it's dawnrise
Did you forget midnight sparkle? Not only the human world also equestria Sci-twi and Twilight are the SAME person(sorry I REALLY don't know how to explain mlp things)
Wdym its not dawnrise its midnightsparkle
@@Erica_an_idiot123 same
Are you kidding? A cadence that can make ponies fall in love? She would easily conquer the whole of equestria, they would give her the crown. All shall Love ME and despair!
Help why does this sound like Junko Enoshima
@@-KaedeCornerStore_danganronpa fan detected!
@@m1kuyayy yep XD
Thought these were gone forever. Thnx for uploading them.
Fr I thought they were gone as well
Ok so I taken a break dose/can eny one explain please in a short as possible way
same was watching since 2015 I thought my entire childhood was gone into the sun daybreakers sun
@@Galaxy_gacha_life turned out he was a pedo
@@Galaxy_gacha_life he's a groomer
1:18 that sneeze was so cute
I kinda like how the normal and evil versions are opposites
☀️ celestia-daybreaker
🌙 Luna-nightmare moon
❤️ Cadence-heartbreaker
✨ Twilight-midnight sparkle
Celestia-Daybreaker
Luna-Nightmare moon
Cadence-heartbreaker
Twilight-Friendship breaker
Wait… are the raging she-demons the human world nightmare force?
Midnight Sparkle?
Twlight-midnight sparkle
i think twillight would be "betrayer"
@@wafflefriezz360MIDNIGHT SPARKLE
Cadence is the only grown alicorn pony that doesn't have a evil counter part.
Because it wouldn't kid friendly if she did
Nightmare Cadence would be a dominatrix
@@ethangraff8036 Bro 😭
@@Pawning
Well, it's the only thing I can think of that even comes close to being a corrupted version of romantic love
Just saying ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Only the main characters or side characters get an evil counterpart. Tho I'm going to make one for Mr and Mrs. Cake now.
( Sombra mind control doesn't count.)
@@ethangraff8036Maybe Evil Princess Cadence can use manipulation (The exercise of harmful influence on others ).
Theory story of queen chrysalis: (can’t decide on name) was a third princess, bringing the stars into view for foals to count before bed. She wasn’t related to the royal sisters, but only them knew. One day, she found out her family was a group of rock farmers (yes she is related to Pinkie Pie) that were dull colored and boring but past chrysalis wasn’t because of a spell that made her think she actually looked like she would be royalty. The jealous alicorn (she was enchanted to have unicorn and Pegasus magic by the sisters) turned into queen chrysalis and left canterlot. She then realized the amount of power she had, being able to transform and feed off of love. She built a hive and started the changeling species using pure magic to make it so she could create more, and when she found out about the royal wedding, she made a plan to replace princess Cadence and after success she started working on a plan to imprison the sisters and control the sun, moon, as well as the stars
never thought she was related to pinkie
@@gracef-h5s it’s a theory
A GAME THEORY
You just 😭@@DefNotEnder
Nightmare Cadence (I think I'll call her Heartbreaker), would definitely be a dominatrix
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Luna said that she created the tantabus to punish her self for the evil she did as nightmare moon.
indeed
Thanks for uploading these videos. I thought my childhood was gone forever 💔
Same bro same
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Twilight turns into midnight sparkle
In my view, the "nightmare force" is not a parasite... it is not even conscious.
Think, the nightmare force in Luna didn't do bad things because that made her strong, she did bad things based on Luna's wish before transforming:
To be adored...to be important.
So much so that when she appears in episodes 1 and 2 of the first season, her first reaction is to be frustrated at being forgotten... just as Luna felt frustrated at not being seen... not being adored.
The strength of the nightmare is just a representation of the being's subconscious.
When you hold on to bad feelings, eventually they come back worse...but they are not aware...it is just you...without all the other feelings.
Imagine the following situation:
Take away Luna's empathy, love, gratitude, sadness and joy and leave only the following emotions:
Anger, envy and resentment.
It's exactly how the nightmare moon behaves
Evil Cadance? Now that sounds awfully familiar! *This Day Aria intensifies*
4:20 and the best thing about it is that some people thought about the same thing like 10 years ago - the fan animation "The Fall of the Crystal Empire" shows how she got infected and yeah that's mindblowing
Sawtooth Waves' final video
False. Their actual final video was "Sprout's Untold Story 🌱".
@@AngelofSpeed Oh my bad
@@AngelofSpeed Thank you for making this comment, I forgot to upload that last video. I have it uploaded now: ruclips.net/video/C1_NRxPw-xc/видео.html
If you're talking about the parasite that turned Luna into nightmare moon. Which is also the same parasite who turned rarity into nightmare rarity
These archives are so great, I just heard about sawtooth waves disappearing and these videos I haven’t even seen before. Thx so much!
Thank you 🥺 for adding this i was wondering if i would ever see these again thank you 🥺
Sawtooth: *sneezes and floats off into space*
Meanwhile, Nameless: *searching for daybreaker's timeline* Aha! ... *Brings back Sawtooth*
ST: :p
Thank you so much!
these are nice to see. I didn't even know about the drama with Sawtooth until I saw the comments on one of these videos. It's really nostalgic to see them again. I miss getting to watch these mlp theory videos.
We never talked about nightmare cadence.
Story Of SawTooth:
He was a minion of crisalis then he just went off and discuise to blend with the ponies.
FINALLY THE TANTABUS IS GETTING ATTENTION!!!!!
Kind of
0:57 nightmare rarity :"am i a joke to you?"
i feel like Cadence's evil side would be Inactivity I would say. "Cadence" literally means a rythmic end of a song or set of words
An antonym of Cadence is Inactivity, so it would work.
Cadance: Lovebreak Twilght besides Midnight sparkle: Friendbetrayer
Heartbreaker is a nice name for nightmare cadence. I bet it will be wonderful as her villain.❤❤❤❤😊😊😊
YOU ARE A CHANGELING 7:34
In my school vr game the nightmare parasites are bioweapons made by the vok and most memorable use of the nightmare force is the Maraudar he's absolute powerhouse that in a recent battle he took on the infernal demons gorrormorrh and the madam butterfly both from series called bayonetta and the fight ended with a neck snapped madam butterfly and a broken jaw gorrormorrh
Sweet ^^
im now thinking about something that wasnt thought of in this video
if the nightmare force dates way back and corrupted stigian, how was it able to possess other characters such as luna if the nightmare force was stuck in limbo with the pillars ?
luna turned into nightmare moon and sombra was sombra while it was in limbo with the pillars
so that doesnt make sense
yeah, how can a number of people have parasitic worms at the same time? it doesn't make any sence
“Nightmare sawtooth” that aged poorly 7:47
I love how Sawtooth kept floating away in the spacey place
I noticed that Cadance was only mentioned once.
Cadence is my second favourite princess so I'd love to see an evil version of her
Tysm for reuploading this!
love the fact that he just floats away
Oh sh*t, it's Divorce Horse!
I wonder if twilight ever cracked in some universe
Our chords can't pass away seek about Celestia. She has a past away for over a 1000 years.
Nightmare moon is a pony that wanted to vanish celestia and rule equestria
They were all possessed by the same dark magic, but in different ways
3:08 a day that never came……I miss him :(
Thank you for uploading this
Thank u I’ve been dealing these hard stuff in RUclips but it’s slowly getting better
OMG TYSM FOR UPLOADING THESE I THOUGHT THESE WORE EVEN NOT EVEN THERE😊
He is making this so hard to watch😭😭
awesome video I would love to experience these life style
AWARD OF THE YEAR GOES TO THIS PERSON
What is a nightmare sawtooth.
stages? parasites? guys someone make a mlp infection au about this
Bring this guy back 😭 I miss him
They use they/them pronouns.
I think evil twilight would be the end in friend
Theory: All of the alicorns are capable of taking on the nightmare form but they never let it crack, except for Luna. Now you may be asking about the others like sombra I think it’s a different story
Was gonna talk about how Cadance's superior form? would have had something to do with love but it seems like everyone else took care of that. BTW, great names, Anika and Azura. Super creative.🤩
If flurryheart got infected for the nightmare force she would def be called flurrybreaker (im bad at names i swear)
Maybe Flurriemoon
Bloody heart sounds more like it.
Cozy glow with all that magic from the bell changed that could mean something big
Something they didn't cover but would help with the argument is Nightmare Rarity from the comics, as you could consider it canon or an alternate world
Maybe nightmare sawtooth has an actual saw tooth?
i think everyone saying that cadance evil form would be called "heart breaker" forgets that every evil form has a different name, using the same word for both daybreaker and cadance evil form "heart breaker" wouldn't fit. My take is to just call her "heart crusher" or "love crusher". That way she gets a different name with the same idea.
Celestia. The Daybreaker.
Luna. The Nightmare Moon
Cadence. The Heartbreaker.
Twilight. The Nemesis.
Flurryheart. The Fallen Light.
Celestia -Daybreaker Luna -Nightmare Moon Cadance -Nightmare Cadance Twilight -Midnight Sparkle 😢
I heard nightmare candice and saw the squirells in my pants meme
Nightmare Cadence be like Divorce Horse
RIP sawtooth waves
Honestly disgusted at how he ended up.. We really can't trust anyone
Wonder who controlled the moon and sun before princesses celestia and Luna were born
SLAYYYYY UNICORN YA MADE SOOO BADDIE
If the creators of my little pony run out of ideas they can do cadence with an EVIL form
I miss Sawtooth, its sad with what he had to go though
If figured it out the pony of shadows gave it to sambra and he gave it to luna and luna gave it to celestia gave cadance her alicorn magic cadance has one and because cadance is twilghts sister in law cadance gave it to twilght and when fleryheart was born twilght gave it to fleryheart because twilght is her unt
so crazy. it happens to every Pony🦄
I know, I'm late with this comment, but on your video about "Stallicorns" (Male alicorns), Sombra could have been the first male alicorn before the "parasite"
Ok, so the thing with the stages could be a very good aspect. The thing is: when Luna fought against King Sombra, it was shown that with her amount of rage, her appearance also started to change. She first started to change her eyes, then her color, and then she became a kind of mix between Princess Luna and Nightmare Moon. So if the theory with how Luna became Nightmare Moon is indeed the correct way of how it was, it would align perfectly with this theory ❤
Evil cadence:Heartbreaker
This is a whole can of worms
5:15 but aren’t they immortal is what I’m thinking bc Luna has been alive Han more than 1000 years
Well, there should also be one for flurryheart I guess? :3
That’s the best name for an my little Pony that gives love, but turns evil
0:49 wow the floor is looking real nice
bro clutched up big time
When ever you go into space 🌌🌌
Divorce Horse
Cadence after divorce
Something that she wanted : she wants love forever
8:09 my favorite part 😂😂
Maybe they might be different one for each one I got earth bunnies, the icons and the sky I don’t know what those sky ones names so that’s the name in sky one for me. They’re all different the same person, but it takes different stages for different of the pony
this implies twilight would have an evil form too
Evil cadance is gonna be Heartbreaker,heartbreaker is gonna spread hate
Ponies will hate each other like what happened back in the past the three thrives fought each other but worse,Twilight and her friends will be controled too but i think Twilight escaped.Twilight will warn shining armor and flurry heart.Twilight will make them stay in a safe place maybe at starlights place.But i think Princess Celestia and Princess luna will be Daybreaker and Nightmare Moon where guards will fight them but they will obviously fail three alicorns that one that spreads hate one that gives us nightmares and make our day bad.Twilight will find something that help maybe shes gonna travel to another timeline and get the five back and the elements of harmony.And the timeline Twilight now ruled and her friends getting an army of all timelines and the normal Princess Cadance,Princess Luna,Princess Celestia an army and also many discords.
It does feel like you traveled to another dimension where Daybreaker is a thing in that universe’s version of MLP FiM: and you got lucky you didn’t start glitching like in SpiderMan Into The Spider Verse (by the way fantastic movie go watch it, I haven’t seen its sequel Across the Spider Verse yet but I hear it’s also amazing)
6:57
this is nightmare sawtooth
i bet she would be named heartbreaker if it happened
What about Starlight when Sunburst left she felt angry and hurt but the parasite didnt affect her
Nameless and you are so wrong becuase S9 twilight takes over and sombra invades that realm of green idk and Daybreaker appeared 2x showed
1:07 we got to see one of the Alcorn Patriot
Wasn’t there was a comic where there was a universe where both sister were evil and rule and wanted to conquer the other universes?
Evil Cadence should be Nightmare Cadence