Ancient Stone Mysteries Of New England: "Yankee Lore"
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- You know that stuff "everybody knows" - but isn't true? The cultural equivalent of this in the Northeast of what's now North America is what's called "Yankee Lore"... This is stuff "everybody" in New England "just knows" about the history of the area... but which isn't true. Or, at the very least, is often inaccurate.
From "Indians around here didn't build with stone", to the Pilgrims, the myth of the Pristine Wilderness, and more, stone site investigator Mike Luoma looks beyond Yankee Lore to get a truer picture of the past.
Mike highlights the work of Ceremonial Stone Landscape Researcher Tim MacSweeney (wakinguponturt...) who suggests Indigenous landscape caretakers may have used stone fire breaks - stone rows, possibly Serpent Effigy Rows - to check the flames of controlled agricultural burning.
Mike also points out how Yankee Lore seems to even be a problem for some archaeologists... especially when it come to Indigenous-built stonework in what's now New England.
Put together with video footage and photos Mike shot around New England, given the context and the subjects being covered there's also a great deal of third-party material, much Public Domain, mostly from the collections of the Library of Congress. In many of these cases, Mike cleaned up the images. Some images were also colored, to break up the monotone grayscale. Free-to-Use videos from Pexels.com were also incorporated. Full Credits follow below for all material, as available. Under each sub-heading, credits are listed in the order of appearance.
Many thanks to researcher Tim MacSweeney for the inspirations behind this video - books he's recommended, his theory on the fire breaks, and a ton of knowledge from his blog, his Facebook Group "Celebrating the Ceremonial Stone Landscapes of Turtle Island", and references he's shared. Please go to his "Waking Up On Turtle Island" (blog) to learn more.
A text version with Bonus Video can be found on the Ancient Stone Mysteries Newsletter on Substack: open.substack....
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Mashpee Sign
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Dr. Barry Fell and his book America B.C.
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Title: English Puritans escaping to America
Engraving copyright by Johnson, Wilson, & Co., 1874, after E. Leutze.
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Title: An Indian welcome on Charles River
Reproduction (half-tone) of painting by R.R. Wand.
Copyright, 1905, by John D. Morris & Company.
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Title: The emigration to Connecticut
Date Created/Published: [18--]
"Designed and etched for Bancroft's History of the U. States."
Title: Samoset, the Indian visitor
The early settlers of New England showing Samoset at colonial village.
Engraving from Harpers Monthly, v. 57, 1857.
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Title: The home of the Gaynor family on a farm near Fairfield, Vermont
Creator(s): Delano, Jack, 1914-1997, photographer
Date Created/Published: 1941 Aug.
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Good points made. I have found numerous references from colonial times about the effort expended in clearing trees and stump removal, filling in marshy ground, digging drainage ditches, digging clay for brick. Even a very early reference from the 1600's to a farm dog by name. Extensive accounts about the wars between colonists and Native Americans. Never a single reference to the enormous effort required to build these extensive walls. And I read history. A lot. Without doubt, some walls were clearly built by settlers to enclose fields and pastures using removed field stone. Having hiked & cross country skied during my 8 years in New England, I can vouch for the fact that the true extent of the walls leaves an indelible impression once you, personally, see it with your own eyes, and realize that they do not follow the easily identifiable patterns of pastures & fields, as in Ireland, rural Britain, or Portugal, or the Azores. The lichen encrustations of some walls alone suggest great age, as lichen grows so slowly.
This was fun to watch! From Maine 🌲 I know these walls well.
Fantastic presentation Mike!! Really needed to be said!! I don't feel so alone on RUclips now that your here. According to Spanish academics, the Conquistadors killed somewhere between 14 and 19 million people in Central America through violence and disease. Their numbers, not mine. So the population in North America was probably more than reported.
Thanks, Dave!
I watched one video about the Indian wars or French and Indian war. The guy said the English and French used natives to fight natives that the Spanish backed.
That video the guy said he believed that ya war body counts were way higher then reported rather than saying disease killed most of em. He said the natives on both sides would take slaves. It’s like why isn’t that ever talked about?
Even in states like Utah with only having like 50 black slaves black history month is taught but nothing taught about the tens of thousands of native Americans slaves owned by natives in Utah. War and taking slaves by natives happened all over but rarely taught it seems.
@@koltoncrane3099 That is true, there should be more transparency with Native history. I am a staunch critic of the omission of "facts" when it comes to Native history. LIke the "peaceful" Pueblo Indians who committed a genocide against a "different" people in Gallina Canyon in New Mexico a thousand years ago. Not so "peaceful" huh? There's plenty of stuff to criticize of Native history.
@koltoncrane3099 I'm a native and you're absolutely correct. We did not have jails or prisons. Instead, people taken in war and people who committed crimes became slaves in a way that they could pay back to the whole community for what they had taken. It usually did not last a full lifetime. And we were taught that you cannot work.A man too hard or you will break him. Limits must always be imposed. Sounds shocking today.
i had this similar stonework behind my land. also a conical peak that I referred to the state. They didn't have the resources to research it. It is now being developed into home development. I am sure it was an indigenous site that will never now be researched. It is connected to Grants Creek and had all the hallmarks that humans required such as water, etc.
Sorry to hear that the chance to study the site has been lost.
"And blown up to make way for a highway access road in 1980..."
damn shame eh?
Genius, the Southerners been sayin' a long time: "Those damn Yankees are just, ... genius."
They farmed over theirs ...
@@bethbartlett5692 Bartlett is a well known name from Maine on down.
Yes, this has kind of killed me since I learned about it. I grew up right there, we rode our bikes on the new highway for a while before it opened to cars... just stunning the lack of concern.
495? We took our go cart our dad made there once to try it out. Before it was done
Based upon recent findings in north america, and south america there is a strong chance that these conservative dates may be underestimated
When I consider how thoroughly the land was cleared and maintained open by millions of natives, finally all of these astronomically aligned shelters and monuments around new england finally make sense! When I consider the landscape may have looked more like Ireland when cleared and rolling hills and rounded mountains…. Can really imagine These stoneworks linking them to the heavens on a nightly basis 😮
My Grandfather grew up in Yonkers NY. Always took vacations on lakes up north & loved taking rides along the Hudson Valley. He told us they were “Indian Walls”. Just what we called them no matter where we were, PA, NJ, or CT. My son is a big hiker & at 27 calls them the same
Thank you for creating and posting this video. It's been a long while since I read 1491, nice
to see someone challenge the settlers made the stone walls pontifications
Thanks for the vid! I'm from the northwest,washington,Oregon country. The local natives treated the land the same way! That is cultivating the land like the ones you talked about!
In Flagstaff, there’s a place called Eldon Pueblo and it’s all built with rocks and looks identical to what you’re showing
Native Phoenician here...never heard of it but certainly our Arizona natives built with stone! Tuzigoot comes to mind.
The Native Americans were farmers BEFORE the Europeans arrived! They were growing corn (maze), potatoes, squash, pumpkins & many more fruits & vegetables! 🌽🥔🍓🍅🍎🍇🍐🍒🥕🥦🍄.....
Yes, as talked about in the video, its part of the main topic
Great at telling 'the truth'. I grew up with stone walls and have seen 'strange' rock piles in wooded areas we could not identify. I connected with your story especially being from Marlborough 's neighbor, Hudson.
Up in NH there is and was readily available granite stone all over the place. Of course they built with it. They would have been insane not to.
Hi neighbor!
Grafton NH. When I was a little fellow, an old man would take me for walks through the woods pointing out stone walls and such, telling me they were built by the natives.
A lot of the things the old man said were scoffed at behind his back, but as time go's on and more information is shared, he is vindicated.
It may be older infact😊
Jim Vieira has done extensive research into these stone formations in new england/ mass
Thanks for the history refresher Mike. Your content is always interesting and entertaining.
Much appreciated, Craig!
This video came up in the suggestions,as i was watching similar videos about pre Columbian sites. Your information is very well presented. Liked and subscribed.
Thank you! Appreciated
This condition, across the globe sadly, where "history" was and still is frequently (re)written by the victors to mollify the resentment of the losers, to appease their citizens conscience and justify their actions. Applying the knowledge/skills, or lack there of, to explain wonders and feats of the past cultures. Added to that is Ego, denigrating any other culture which isn't understood.
....as long as the germans are prohibited in telling their side, right? Imagine if discussing or questioning this stone wall subject was against the law...the truth doesent fear questioning...only lies do. If we must be open to discussing the various possibilities of the historical record, then every topic must be free to discuss....
Dave
Ya some things from history doesn’t logically make much sense to me.
It’s like I was taught the nasssis killed six millionjews but when I googled Israel’s population it’s only 7 million today. It’s like wow historians are saying that in parts of Europe that were conquered in ww2 that the nasis basically killed almost the equivalent of all the jewsinisrael today. And if there’s about six or seven million in the U.S. today it really makes me think wow for the Germans to have killed six million 80 years ago that’s really shocking. Maybe the number is accurate and Jews just had small families afterwards idk.
@@Angrybarberman Your statement is very narrow minded. I said And meant Globally. ALL the way from before the Ancient dynasties that existed before modern China, Ancient cultures of the middle east like Babylon and Egypt, Ancient Rome and Greece, ancient Europe All the way up to and including the modern world and all of it's current cultures.
I grew up in NH and have ALWAYS thought that the stone walls had indigenous origins despite what the “yankee narrative” claims. Many of the walls i encounter have significant weather erosion and seem to be buried under quite a bit of decomposed soil to the extent that to claim they are
Yes, some New England stone walls seem to originate deep in the soil. I’m not a soil scientist or archaeologists but they appear more than ~250 years old.
Grafton New Hampshire, in the hizzouse!
Yup. I was told by some older men now passed, that many of the deep woods stone " walls" were not of European post contact origin.
I am unqualified to say one way or another, but I wont discount the old timers, some of the things they said hold water against the offical mass narrative.
I'd like to see what it'd look like if someone walked the walls while mapping the track with gps, then lay the wall tracks over a map. 🤔
Out west in Arizona the stone were used exclusively by Indians for building huge cities.
I grew up on American cultural folklore. From Johnny Appleseed, Paul Bunyan and Babe, his blue ox. John Henry, the steel driving man and so many others
Pocasset reserves Sin and Flesh brook has a fire break stone wall directly across from Chargepoints station proof of blueberry hills on rattlesnake ridge.
Excellent!
You got my subscription... Thanks for the great info and perspective! 🌱
No one from India was here at the time, definitely built by indigenous native tribes, that my ancestors should've integrated into.
It is great to hear the real history of New England. Do you cover king Philips war in detail ?
Not in-depth, no. I mention some details in my Redemption Rock video: ruclips.net/video/OYHt-B03vzA/видео.htmlsi=YCTJwxPoGRROx5kQ
@@AncientStoneMysteries CapeTrails Succor Brook in Tiverton is the site of war battle and genocide At Ballys casino home of the first reservation for indians that helped Church kill other indians.
Reminds me of some structures on my families farms in PA. Theres the farm house and old farm house remnants that are very different from the random walls that my cousins tended to hunt around. That family has oral history of a couple different tribes and were on that land with tombstones bearing family names prior to the revolution.
“Once all the Wood was used up”, “you’ve never been to Maine have you”??? Yes, there are some built with slate (local geologics allowing), but most is done with Granites, a lot of Quartzites! At least in Central and Western Maine they are, but we still see Granites, in places where there isn’t any outcroppings! Leading you think that they dragged or carried them there, but the more puzzling is the grid work that exists in most every case, over topographic features in straight lines branching at 90 degrees, some other angles but majority 90’s! Leading to the banks of water features and continuing, built before the river (choose or was encouraged) onto that path! My personal thoughts, a people went through epic undertakings, over generations, to use a certain building media, to connect places like “an ancient power grid” ,that isn’t understood today! A technology lost or forgotton, what confuses us about it is, “What did it look like then, in each period? We see other walls going over (Slate), and others under other walls (Granites or Quartzites)! Multiple building materials, seeing multiple depositions and not distinguishing the many periods, each one belongs to! Other areas show later additions on existing parts of walls, like it suggests (a seasonal duty of efforts) to connect one village to another!!! What do you think on the subject, it’s a kooky mystery (that’s all around the entire North East)… maybe further than we realize!!! Most people aren’t aware they are smack dab in a mystery, many in fact…
I found a place on maine Newhampshire border a strange placecrock pikes and megalithic stone altors and huge oak trees got lots more to say but i want to be brief
Somewhere up around North Conway I heard of a legend of an ancient silver vein perhaps?
It was years ago I heard it, but its fascinating. These north woods hold some old information.
Deep in the 603.
I am in grafton NH. Ever get bored, there is some thjngs over here. We are in a valley off of the Connecticut river, glacial ponds etc. There are some interesting stone structures in the area around Tewksbury pond. The over looking rock outcrop over rte 4, has some intereting " carved" grroves and odd stone manipulations that look very reminiscent of ancient iron mining sites found in michigan from ancient times.😮
Have you heard of America’s Stonehenge???
Also Gungywamp in Groton, CT.
Mystery Hill in New Hampshire, first time I’ve seen “Gunnywamp” in Groton, CT, I’ll take a look thanks
What about the stone tower in Rhode Island...I think...
@@lisanelson3864the stone tower has been attributed to Norse explorers by some...
I kind of recall it having an indicative carving in it? Cant remember, I'll have to dive back into that. Thanks for the reorientation!
Very interesting. I’m glad to have found your channel, new sub. I work in the field as well.
Very informative. I have both colonists and Micmaw Native American in my ancestry. I know the name of my 9th Great grandmother, a Micmaw/Mik’mac person.
Further north stone walls were used to herd animals closer to hunters who only had spears and arrows.
Do you know they've found ancient caribou runs beneath the great lakes? Fascinating stuff!
@@AncientStoneMysteries If we knew how much the oceans and seas have risen and the time it occurred just may be some one calculate how far out or deep. Shallow areas. They be able to find more ancient artifacts and other civilizations.The oceans are truly the last place to be explored.
I love this! Thank you 🙏
Good stuff.. subbed
Thànk you sir..for a great show...
Excellent presentation - keep up the great work.
The population of North America pre-1500’s was over 20 million easily
The stone walls across the southern Appalachian mountains lore say they were slave built .
The reach of indigenous knowledge is great. The entire Amazon basin area grows on manmade soil, Terra Preta. It would have taken centuries to build the fertile land. It was all productive land
Thank you for telling the truth.
" they tamed a pristine wilderness "? wow
GENIUS INSIGHT...SUBLIME OBSERVATIONS...PROFOUND WISDOM...HAVE SEEN INEXPLICABLE STONE WORK IN UPSTATE NEW YORK...
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Anybody ever bothered to ask the Native Americans? That would be a 1st ...
As mentioned in the video, the United South and Eastern Tribes (USET) an organization of more than 30 Federally Recognized Tribes have offered several Resolutions on the Ceremonial Stone Landscapes of the Northeast, identifying them as ancestors' work and asking for assistance in protecting them.
If you go in the woods in north scituate Rhode Island, near snake hill road you can see the piles of rocks in different sizes to finish a wall but was never done.
Amazing how we are manipulated by lies.
Yankee lore? Call a duck a duck which in this case is named racism.
Humans have been putting stones on top of other stones (building) way before they invented the wheel, lol. It's bloody obvious !
did you help Sylvie @ newearth?
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Okay, but who doesn't know this? Is the video aimed at actual children, or just Republicans?
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