Did the NC500 a few years ago in my Kia eNiro, all you need is the CPS card (get it a couple of weeks before you go - the databases on the remotest chargers only get an update every few weeks). Get the card rather than rely on the app as the mobile signal is ropey in NM places.
Went up to relatives on the Isle of Lewis in my Nissan Ariya. No problem on the mainland, except finding the actual location of the Tesla chargers in Aviemore, they are well hidden at the back of the Macdonald Hotel ! . In Stornoway though the only working ones I could find were 7 Kw Podpoints in the Tesco car park🙂.
I don't mind having to queue when necessary but as you state we queue for most things however there is normally a line to get on or a ticket but with EVs it's a bit of a free for all with no system in place to queue fairly and in order of arrival.
I've been to the highlands of Scotland for the last 2 summers and again this summer, I've always used my Chargeplace Scotland RFID card as it's just so convenient and as my Nissan Leaf only has a 50kW maximum charge rate pretty much every charger is suitable, and the prices are cheaper than in England, I've never yet had to queue to charge and only on one occasion found a charger out of order, well not actually just the CHAdeMO cable was absent so i had to use the AC connection. Only thing you do have to watch is charging time is often limited and you get a penalty if you exceed it, although Ive noticed on the app the time limits have grown this year.
Scotland is a good indicator. Comparatively large land area to population with most of the population concentrated. The main issue is 'who pays'. Do ev users pay the installation plus running plus fuel costs. If installations all make a profit- no problem . Commercial providers will queue to participate. If installations depend on initial and continued subsidy - Watch out! The tourist trade will put fluctuating demand on provision. There will be understandable pressure to ensure the user pays - and why not? The gravy train, if there is one, will stop. EVs will be a source of taxation income rather than expense. There is an area for research for you, Dave. Enjoy your visit, bring your money.
I May have mentioned this earlier but Skye has several chargers, totalling 28 sockets. 18 were broken, and if my apps are to be believed, still are. It took me 3 nights of granny charging to get enough to reach Kylerea 50kw so that I could leave. I visited for a holiday but enjoyed little. The east of Scotland was fine. Good luck!
I'd recommend trying Scotland's best kept secret, Aberdeenshire. "From Mountain to Sea". Mountains, great fishing rivers, great whisky distilleries, great coastlines both rugged and flat sands. And we speak properly here "the mither tongue". And i make no apology for being biased. 😊😊
I moved from the southwest of England to the south West of Scotland in 2020. I find the further you get from centers of population the more sparse charging options become, it is getting better though. I think the Scots are a bit behind the curve on EVs, they still like thier big German ICE cars and SUVs up here. One thing you will find is a warm welcome, the Scots are a very friendly group of people, but be warned if they invite you to go to the pub for a wee dram, don't drive there 😉 Oh and a charge place Scotland card is a must.
Okay Dave, I’m a wheelchair user, with a major trip planned for end May from Yorkshire up to St Andrews area. We’re almost certainly heading M6 way and looping around Glasgow. Looking at what’s what I think our first planned stop could be at Cairn Lodge services and I’m really keen to see what is going on there with their allegedly Hydrogen powered EV chargers! We are driving a Kia Niro EV and I reckon Cairn Lodge should be around our 20% level.
Dave, I just don't recognise the rosy picture you paint of charging in Scotland. It certainly used to be better, but no longer, not outside the central belt anyway. Some examples: Fort William, 2nd largest population centre in the Highlands, major, major tourist destination. It used to have just one elderly and unreliable 50kw charger, beside 6 Tesla exclusives, with two new CPS rapids sitting for almost 2 years before they at last became operational last summer. Thank heavens Tesla opened up to all - because all 3 CPS chargers have been off line since 27 December. Hire cars: I frequently come across visitors with hire cars who arrive, for example, in Kyle, and can't charge. They don't have a CPS card, no app, and debit card charging isn't an option. In rural Scotland, ChargePlace Scotland will generally be your only option. Their helpline is good, but they don't own and don't maintain the chargers. As you say, it isn't a network, it's in effect an agency for chargers owned by councils and businesses. I am on the board of a community-owned business here in Skye. Our rapid 50kw charger has been out of order for months because the repair bill for it is several thousand pounds, and we don't have the money. On recent journeys I've frequently found 'rapid' chargers only offering 30kw or less. I could go on, but I'll just wish you bon voyage!
Think existing Gretna Services site is getting V3. The V4s are going to a different location nearer Gretna. CPS are mainly council owned chargers. Biggest thing to watch for are time limits in some council areas - don't expect to get a full charge. It's almost like some councils don't want CPS to be workable? It's worth mentioning Tesla as quite a few locations are the fastest and cheapest open to all chargers in a sizeable area. Fort William for one.
Scotland and everywhere request for towing... Can you charge without un hitching? If unhitching: can you park insight of the caravan/trailer for security & convenience, could you be trapped in a one way loop without access back to the trailer? The last is useless for towing? You could log your findings in some apps. PlugShare has tow friendly filters. ABRP Will log info but currently no filter for towing!
I drive from the North West of England up to Renfrew in Scotland a few times a year to visit family. Made good use of the CPS chargers when they were free, or reasonably priced, but some councils are pricing them too high. Dave, any chance of a link to the Google map you used showing chargers under construction? Spotted some Kempower units going in at a retail park in Wigan, which I’m guessing are Osprey and hoping that map might confirm that.
Thanks for your regular content and pro EV content ChargePlaceScotland is brilliant all over Scotland I’m surprised you forgot to mention it costs only 30p and 38p kW/h that’s less than half the price of most oil company rip off charging networks Take care
The price of CPS rapid chargers varies enormously, and is set by the council or business who own them - from an incredibly cheap 15p in Fife, to 70p in Highland, Glasgow and several other areas.
Annoyingly my local Nissan Dealer always says their charger is not working - been like that for about a year. I wonder how many other nissan dealers are chilly to free charging
Are member based charger network special rates locked in for a period or are you free to leave any time; ie can you join for a 2 week holiday, a month or the summer period, then leave?
Can any non Tesla cars navigate by Tesla open2all chargers alone (eg built in Kia Navigation or independent like ABRP) and what happens to Tesla chargers availability predictions if they are being targeted on those route navigators outside Tesla's Applications? (ie Tesla won't know they are on their way) maybe Tesla factor in a percentage of use for non Tesla?
Need to go through the price range for charge place Scotland, they have some chargers at 80-90p a KW. There is one in Inverness near the football stadium what’s near a £1 KW
The trick is obvious - I drive a Kia but use Tesla open Superchargers. You can clearly pretty much get around Scotland with most EVs using only these chargers. AVOID the ringed chargers!
C'mon Dave. Tesla, Tesla, Tesla. Blah, blah, blah. Almost a quarter of EV's are Tesla which means over three-quarters of vehicles are not Tesla's. The reason I dropped my subscription to your channel is because you blather on about Tesla until my ears bleed. As I am going to Scotland this year in my majority non-Tesla vehicle I hoped that you might be doing something useful. A bit disappointing. Why do I need to hear about Cornwall when you are supposed to be talking about Scotland? Please, try to broaden out. Eh?
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Get a Charge Point Scotland RFID , then you will be able to get off the beaten track. Last summers 2400 miles trip was easy.
Did the NC500 a few years ago in my Kia eNiro, all you need is the CPS card (get it a couple of weeks before you go - the databases on the remotest chargers only get an update every few weeks). Get the card rather than rely on the app as the mobile signal is ropey in NM places.
Hi Dave, great video as usual 😊 pop to Dundee fab place for a visit lots going on, would be good to see you
Went up to relatives on the Isle of Lewis in my Nissan Ariya. No problem on the mainland, except finding the actual location of the Tesla chargers in Aviemore, they are well hidden at the back of the Macdonald Hotel ! . In Stornoway though the only working ones I could find were 7 Kw Podpoints in the Tesco car park🙂.
I don't mind having to queue when necessary but as you state we queue for most things however there is normally a line to get on or a ticket but with EVs it's a bit of a free for all with no system in place to queue fairly and in order of arrival.
hi 👋 dave, I hope Scotland gives you a warm welcome 🙏
Nice one Dave! Enjoy the trip North.
I've been to the highlands of Scotland for the last 2 summers and again this summer, I've always used my Chargeplace Scotland RFID card as it's just so convenient and as my Nissan Leaf only has a 50kW maximum charge rate pretty much every charger is suitable, and the prices are cheaper than in England, I've never yet had to queue to charge and only on one occasion found a charger out of order, well not actually just the CHAdeMO cable was absent so i had to use the AC connection.
Only thing you do have to watch is charging time is often limited and you get a penalty if you exceed it, although Ive noticed on the app the time limits have grown this year.
Up you come Dave, you’ll be made very welcome! I’m in central Scotland, hope to see you soon!
Scotland is a good indicator. Comparatively large land area to population with most of the population concentrated. The main issue is 'who pays'. Do ev users pay the installation plus running plus fuel costs. If installations all make a profit- no problem . Commercial providers will queue to participate. If installations depend on initial and continued subsidy - Watch out! The tourist trade will put fluctuating demand on provision. There will be understandable pressure to ensure the user pays - and why not? The gravy train, if there is one, will stop. EVs will be a source of taxation income rather than expense. There is an area for research for you, Dave. Enjoy your visit, bring your money.
I May have mentioned this earlier but Skye has several chargers, totalling 28 sockets. 18 were broken, and if my apps are to be believed, still are. It took me 3 nights of granny charging to get enough to reach Kylerea 50kw so that I could leave. I visited for a holiday but enjoyed little. The east of Scotland was fine. Good luck!
I'd recommend trying Scotland's best kept secret, Aberdeenshire. "From Mountain to Sea".
Mountains, great fishing rivers, great whisky distilleries, great coastlines both rugged and flat sands.
And we speak properly here "the mither tongue".
And i make no apology for being biased.
😊😊
I moved from the southwest of England to the south West of Scotland in 2020. I find the further you get from centers of population the more sparse charging options become, it is getting better though. I think the Scots are a bit behind the curve on EVs, they still like thier big German ICE cars and SUVs up here. One thing you will find is a warm welcome, the Scots are a very friendly group of people, but be warned if they invite you to go to the pub for a wee dram, don't drive there 😉 Oh and a charge place Scotland card is a must.
Ionity is at Gretna as well by the petrol station Dave
Okay Dave, I’m a wheelchair user, with a major trip planned for end May from Yorkshire up to St Andrews area.
We’re almost certainly heading M6 way and looping around Glasgow.
Looking at what’s what I think our first planned stop could be at Cairn Lodge services and I’m really keen to see what is going on there with their allegedly Hydrogen powered EV chargers!
We are driving a Kia Niro EV and I reckon Cairn Lodge should be around our 20% level.
That map of chargers currently being constructed looks really good at 4:40 Dave - do you have a link to it?
Great video. Was up in Inverness recently & no problems charging my Fiat 500e.
I’m based in Perth but travel weekly to Aberdeenshire and find charging fine. As people have said get a chargeplace Scotland card before coming
This the new "trainspotting holiday" 😁
Thanks Dave brilliant video
Dave, I just don't recognise the rosy picture you paint of charging in Scotland. It certainly used to be better, but no longer, not outside the central belt anyway. Some examples: Fort William, 2nd largest population centre in the Highlands, major, major tourist destination. It used to have just one elderly and unreliable 50kw charger, beside 6 Tesla exclusives, with two new CPS rapids sitting for almost 2 years before they at last became operational last summer. Thank heavens Tesla opened up to all - because all 3 CPS chargers have been off line since 27 December. Hire cars: I frequently come across visitors with hire cars who arrive, for example, in Kyle, and can't charge. They don't have a CPS card, no app, and debit card charging isn't an option. In rural Scotland, ChargePlace Scotland will generally be your only option. Their helpline is good, but they don't own and don't maintain the chargers. As you say, it isn't a network, it's in effect an agency for chargers owned by councils and businesses. I am on the board of a community-owned business here in Skye. Our rapid 50kw charger has been out of order for months because the repair bill for it is several thousand pounds, and we don't have the money. On recent journeys I've frequently found 'rapid' chargers only offering 30kw or less. I could go on, but I'll just wish you bon voyage!
Think existing Gretna Services site is getting V3. The V4s are going to a different location nearer Gretna.
CPS are mainly council owned chargers. Biggest thing to watch for are time limits in some council areas - don't expect to get a full charge. It's almost like some councils don't want CPS to be workable?
It's worth mentioning Tesla as quite a few locations are the fastest and cheapest open to all chargers in a sizeable area. Fort William for one.
Scotland and everywhere request for towing...
Can you charge without un hitching? If unhitching: can you park insight of the caravan/trailer for security & convenience, could you be trapped in a one way loop without access back to the trailer?
The last is useless for towing?
You could log your findings in some apps. PlugShare has tow friendly filters. ABRP Will log info but currently no filter for towing!
I drive from the North West of England up to Renfrew in Scotland a few times a year to visit family. Made good use of the CPS chargers when they were free, or reasonably priced, but some councils are pricing them too high. Dave, any chance of a link to the Google map you used showing chargers under construction? Spotted some Kempower units going in at a retail park in Wigan, which I’m guessing are Osprey and hoping that map might confirm that.
Cheers Dave
What's the website you feature for new chargers being installed?
thanks
Thanks for your regular content and pro EV content
ChargePlaceScotland is brilliant all over Scotland I’m surprised you forgot to mention it costs only 30p and 38p kW/h that’s less than half the price of most oil company rip off charging networks
Take care
The price of CPS rapid chargers varies enormously, and is set by the council or business who own them - from an incredibly cheap 15p in Fife, to 70p in Highland, Glasgow and several other areas.
Annoyingly my local Nissan Dealer always says their charger is not working - been like that for about a year. I wonder how many other nissan dealers are chilly to free charging
Morning mate
Are member based charger network special rates locked in for a period or are you free to leave any time; ie can you join for a 2 week holiday, a month or the summer period, then leave?
Queen Of The Loch Osprey looks good but it’s 79p per kWh
Can any non Tesla cars navigate by Tesla open2all chargers alone (eg built in Kia Navigation or independent like ABRP) and what happens to Tesla chargers availability predictions if they are being targeted on those route navigators outside Tesla's Applications? (ie Tesla won't know they are on their way) maybe Tesla factor in a percentage of use for non Tesla?
Need to go through the price range for charge place Scotland, they have some chargers at 80-90p a KW. There is one in Inverness near the football stadium what’s near a £1 KW
Dont bother coming to test the charging in Northern Ireland there are virtually none
The trick is obvious - I drive a Kia but use Tesla open Superchargers. You can clearly pretty much get around Scotland with most EVs using only these chargers. AVOID the ringed chargers!
Are they that open in Scotland? I've not noticed many open to all Tesla chargers in England.
C'mon Dave.
Tesla, Tesla, Tesla. Blah, blah, blah.
Almost a quarter of EV's are Tesla which means over three-quarters of vehicles are not Tesla's.
The reason I dropped my subscription to your channel is because you blather on about Tesla until my ears bleed.
As I am going to Scotland this year in my majority non-Tesla vehicle I hoped that you might be doing something useful. A bit disappointing. Why do I need to hear about Cornwall when you are supposed to be talking about Scotland?
Please, try to broaden out. Eh?
Sounds like a gas load of very silly belly aches.
@@Tom-dt4ic You can think what you like. I really don't give a Tesla.