Since I started this tier, setting expectations is a pretty big deal. I had doubts about my first static since I wasn't sure how good they were and I wasn't sure where I stood in terms of skills and what I could reasonably scale up my expectations for speed. My second static after it dissolved answered a lot of questions about etiquette and expectations. Members would talk about openers, discuss strategy. plan mitigations for the timeline, and call on discussions about mistakes and areas of improvement. It felt like everyone else had experience and I got a better idea of how to improve and what expectation I could reasonably set for myself. Which became evident with a group, being a more midcore: we take our damage and strategy seriously but meet less often compared to a hardcore static due to personal life availability.
I had a TEA static once. It was actually my first ultimate static. This was a casual group and most of them were chill. 2 months pass and we were at Perfect Alex phase at that point everyone was getting burnt out and morale in the group was dwindling. But we still try to make it more fun by chatting and making jokes and all. Our DNC was the one always trying to pump up everyone up every pull and I really appreciate her for this. But she was actually the most burnt out in the group. At almost the end I stopped talking and our leader talked to me about it. I was kinda like the class clown of the group. So I think he was kinda surprised. I said I just want to focus in progging. Sadly if I start talking I tend to lose a bit focus and sometimes cause a wipe in the group. He laughed and said it's ok if that happens let's try to make it fun for everyone. Such a great guy but I stood my ground and became quiet until we cleared it but during that time it became like a chore progging instead of enjoying it. I started talking again after the first clear and it became fun for me again. That was one of the best static I ever had. Your video made me appreciate it so much that I had to tell it's story. Thank you for this
Really good etiquette tips! Especially with commitment, and C-O-M-U-N-I-C-A-T-I-O-N!!! And yeah, Setting Expectations at the beginning is SUPERRRR important. Changing things up if you hit a wall, and stop progressing isn't necessarily wrong, but it's definitely a decision made with everyone's input, and you give a LOT of notice so it doesn't feel like it comes out of nowhere.. I've lead a few Static/Raid groups, and I've been in that REALLY tough spot when you have that one player, who is just playing very poorly, and is either unable to, or REFUSES to improve. It sucks, but doing nothing will usually lead to wiping to the same mechanics/enrage on the same fight for WEEKS, and that can just make everyone else frustrated, and cause compounding issues. However, in your specific example, if they were already on P4s I doubt that was an issue. (Also, this late into the tier, you might as well commit)
The person who got kicked also mentioned that they were the one doing call outs for the first half of the fight that they had learned. Sooooooooo. At least in this case, it probably didn't have anything to do with playing so poorly as to wipe the group repeatedly. If you can do the callouts, it's safe to say you know the mechs.
Also maybe it's something I picked up from the military but you should always show up to something 30-15 mintues prior to when the event is to occur. This way that 10 minutes where if you need to get a replacement happens before you actual prog time starts you can make an adjustment and not waste anyones time.
I dont need people to show up early, I'm happy as long as they're on time. A lot of my team is online 10 mins or more before our start time though, so I'm able to invite most of them and get the ball rolling. My team is also pretty good about giving me enough notice to get subs before raid time xD
People showing early isn't necessary but if I get only 10 minutes notice on unavailability and it's not an absolute emergency I'm gonna be pissed. "I'm running a little late because of X" is fine for shorter-term notice (though context dependent) but if someone's straight up unavailable I need to know as soon as possible so I can look for a sub, especially once a tier is going because you start to get schedule conflicts with those potential subs.
To add to this,its important to know how to tackle player-related issues as well. One of the most common issue that I've encountered is that tension builds up really fast when the team is stuck in a prog point for way too long. Then it snowballs to people holding grudges and issues that are not addressed right away. Which then has a potential to implode and ruin friendships. That's why some people say "don't raid with friends". Not because of the potential that it could ruin your relationship, but the expectations. You joined a static to commit to a schedule and goal to do and clear content. Fun is given, but if it hinders the group from achieving your group's goal, then tension builds up. It doesn't matter if everyone in the group are super comfortable with each other, because by the end of the day people don't want their time and effort wasted if the static is memeing and not progging. You'll burn out doing that. Tip : Keep a record of your wipes, and build a graph or just check fflogs so you can have an overview of which phases you are wiping to the most. Sometimes you will notice a trend. For example, if the group prog point is p5, but then you notice that in the previous sessions, your group is getting more wipes in P2-P3 day by day, then there's a problem. Sometimes you have to dig through who makes the most mistakes and talk to them. Sometimes its just a group thing and you have to be extra focused to get that prog. Sometimes you just spot the obvious issues and clear comms during cast bars like you said.
i was looking for people that just want to tackle hard content, found a group that was pretty much into it an now im raiding with my static for like 7 months, every day in the evening - we are not hardcore but we are consistent and with that we got the clears, right now we are still at p8s but everyone knows we will get the boss down eventually. Its a nice feeling and nobody thinks about blaming somene, misstakes happen and you need to train yourself and others on mechanics. we dont judge on parses, we dont care if we redo it, we just gather every evening to have fun together and it words great and success comes with time
That is such a lovely group! My group is current on phase 2 of p8s and i think we have a similar vibe. Sometimes people get upset with their own mistakes but no one is really out here blaming one another or creating a negative environment so that's awesome \o/
People need to recontextualize and revaluate the interdependacy of what they do in raiding. As a schoolteacher, my time gets absolutely fucked by people with zero concept of keeping promises, good time management, preparation, etc. People are looking at others like utility they can use to get something they want. Not as people they need to be able to get anything done in the first place. People who can stick to the clear expectations you set are worth their weight in gold. Not the 99 parsers with an abysmal time to kill of 100+ hours on blind content. Not the blind proggers who get their gear then ghost you for reclear nights. Not people whose immediate response to feeling insecure is to lash out. I love this game, but I spend so much of my time educating children offline, FFXIV's raid scene really feels sometimes like educating children ONLINE. Obvs this video is 2mo old but I got the reccomendation now and here are the thoughts.
Why even bother looking for a static when everyone is treated as completely disposable? 90% of the time I'm either let go specifically (and I always ask why its almost never due to performance but some vauge thing they wont define) or the group falls apart due to bad scheduling. Why bother? it's doomed. Raiding is impossible if u want to do it with a static since nobody is ever going to have one, unless they have 7 real life friends who all play.
Fun fact: the hardest part about savages and ultimates isnt the fight itself its getting 8 knuckleheads to do it Motivation, consistency, and vibes play such a huge role
As someone with MASSIVE ADHD who both needs callouts and doesn't know how to stop myself from running my mouth, here's a tip: Literally just turn your mic off. Even if it's just for a couple pulls. If you find you're talking a lot and being a distraction, turning your mic off (even if everyone else is still chatting) doesn't just keep you from contributing to the chatter, it changes your headspace and helps you focus (knowing you can't participate kinda helps you tune it out, which helps keep you from getting distracted. It just turns into white noise) If you are a raid leader or officer in a group with a problem chatter (or if you're close enough friends with the person to not make it weird), it might be worth (respectfully!) discussing this idea with them in private as well, or even with the group as a whole if it's a widespread problem. The ability for the leader to call for a few "mics off" pulls can help re-center the group, especially when it's the last session of the week and you're really pushing for that clear.
LMAO the commentary at the very end. Agreed on all points; punctuality, communicating absences, keeping comms clear when needed, though chatter can be great for bonding.. do ascians poop? We're in their sewer so... Yes. Yes, they do!
This example is like a group project for school where you´re near the deadline and one of the guys decides to delete everything and say it wouldn´t be enough to even get a passing grade
i joined this MC group and was having a miserable time for the first 2 weeks cause their pace was slower than what i wanted but around week 3 i tried managing my expectation and i started to enjoy raiding with them even if their damage is not really there so i think expectation can impact how much enjoyment you are going to get when it comes to a static enviroment
There are times where I wish I could go back to old groups I was a part of and see if there's been any change in proper communication/generally treating members well but then I think back to the "rug pulled out from under me" moments and go "Yeah...maybe it's better I don't go down those rabbit holes." My last group unfortunately split up due to a lack of communication/outlining what was expected of the group from the raid leader. Hopefully one of these days I'll find a comfy static or a psuedo static of fun people like I did during shadowbringers but we'll see. Excellent video! Definitely gonna share it with some of my XIV friends.
I have an incomplete static that will start off as soon as everyone has played through endwalker and it will be casual to midcasual/midcore depending on people's schedules. We primarily want to clear things for glam since we all do RP and we love gameplay as well :3. I made plans and a whole discord server channel that is uneditable with rules and what I expect of people. We don't want to do homework unless we hit a wall because I don't like elitist behaviour and judgement. We are friends and we have too many who have ADHD or people with bad memory so there will be 0 pressure because fun is over perfection. I'm not sure if I'm doing a good job as a newbie in being a static leader but I'm taking notes, learning, and watching videos by others. The main issue is we are missing 3 people still and the rest is getting to endwalker with everyone (4 people started playing only after endwalker released).
If they've been stuck on a single mech for weeks cuz of 2 or 3 bozos, every moment they wasted carrying them could've been spent progging dsr. Better to cut the losses late then never
i dont have patience for people and my schedule is like doodoo water for statics but damn, i guess alot of people cant communicate or have issues with that cuz ive seen like 4 videos already relating to this issue in the past 3 weeks. kinda weird considring its an online game. good vid, bad mosquito.
Very easy you get tilted by bad static members not preforming up to the task of new raiding. For that tier we got to P4s first night but raid leader started being stupid so more then half of us left after second time delayed happened. We didn’t care we care about each other we just shared a common goal. Then yes half of realized that goal wasn’t going to be met with others in our party so we split ways.
@@healbot not gonna lie buddy I'm sorry that happened to you but the way you look at groups and people is deeply disturbing. People will have different priorities and if your priorities aren't met that's fine to leave and find the right group for you but the people you play with are more than a means to an end.
@@NotTheWheel it’s a game. they made it to p4s first night, they have expectations of certain a performance metric being met. they also used a lot of “we” language in that comment so im sure it isn’t just their decision that they collectively disbanded. only assuming, but I’m sure they shared the same sentiment at the very beginning of forming the group. the only thing disturbing is your view of what is considered disturbing.
The thing I don't understand is why this even needs to be taught at all. It's like some people don't actually understand what a commitment is or what it entails. It means showing up and doing your job even if you don't feel like it. If you can't do that, don't commit. Just play on your own time in PF.
Yeah tbh expectations are the most important part. I joined a chill one and yeah we still haven’t cleared turn 1 even tho I got a clear week 1 on pf on monday last minute but tbh the chemistry is what I’ve grown to value much more than progress. I just have so much fun with them I have no trouble with it. We have lost members and I think they wanted a faster group but that’s fine too bc staying just leads to toxicity
I think it's totally fair for people to leave if they realize they want something diff. As long as they do so respectfully without creating drama, it is ultimately better for everyone cuz like you said, staying would probably lead to frustration.
By my own admission, I can be difficult to raid with. While I'm not one to lash out in angry rants, I tend to become burnt out if there isn't a measure of consistent progress, as I commit to raiding as a whole and take it seriously, with a heavy emphasis on clearing. When there's inevitably a lack of progress, I internalise those failures as being my own fault. In the case of my last group, I became fully burnt out because we walled for over a month on a mechanic I'd cracked the first time I saw it. It didn't help that 70% of our wipes at that point were from just two people who kept forgetting to do the mechanic. I eventually cleared, but I'm probably doing Anabaseios in either PF, or finding a group that'll better fit what I'm looking for.
well, tried to explained why randomly absent or late are rude to this type of people, and they replied "why are you so serious! it's just a game! lol" they're not gonna understand that it's not about the game, it's about respect other ppl time
see the hard part for me when ive been part of 3 statics before forming my own, is I was the only one who was regularally there on time, and still got shamed for my parse. then before raid on monday, I had a member of my static leave with no word, and wont respond to me from anywhere... so im like :? one of the biggest things for me is communication and openness. but apparentl;y this person didnt reealise
Communication is SO important. Ive had similar issues with attendance too :c It's okay to take a day off when youre sick, but if people keep missing it really hurts the group's progress as a whole.
Honestly it isnt always easy to find 8 people who have the same goals, are at a similar skill level, can play at the same time, and have a good vibe :c
My only story with joining a static was just before EW, they wanted to clear before the expac, I missed 4 days being sick (during the first wave of covid so I figured it was understandble) but when I got back they said they saw enrage so I told myself I really had to preform. Cut to never getting to the second phase of the thancred looking mofo fight and I spoke up and asked for quiet during raid pulls and for people to focus up, we almost cleared that pull. But after that night I got messages on discord saying I'm being kicked, despite seeing people come and go with multiple warnings. I like to think I didn't do anything wrong but I suppose their dynamic was that they liked to talk over call outs throughout the entire fight, but after almost two months and no progress I really couldn't anymore.
@@yeetus514 really? I thought it was the expectation to be quiet. I'm in a static, we haven't done anything yet until the person setting it up has time but we were told we'd be all muted so one person can do callouts and only unmute when contributing to strat stuff.
@@galacticmoonwolf8462 depends on your groups expectations. From OPs own post he says "Their dynamic was they liked to talk". So if he's telling people to be quiet it kinda goes against the groups expectations. I'd also point out if your static doesn't need a shot caller then it's pretty okay to talk. All depends on your group and how you play.
@@yeetus514 I see, I didn't know other groups talked. See, I love to talk and have fun but I have been told we need to focus and be serious so only one person talks for callouts and we listen and follow. But again, I expect that, my skills aren't good enough so. And yeah, if people do like to talk then I can see why people may get a little upset if told not to. It's just a communication error on what the OP wanted from the group
@@galacticmoonwolf8462 wow that honestly sounds so wild, I've been in a lot of statics the past six years of playing (even in Hardcore and casual statics) and I've never in my life seen that before
Call out in raids XD When my static (close to) blind proggs, the first runs are pure chaos with everybody talking at the same time. And as we learn and beat one bit of the raid after the next, its getting so quiet, its almost unnerving...
i feel it is just common courtesy that you don't just change the game at the last second and if you are planning changes atleast discuss it with members first.
It is a pre-formed group that meets at the same time/same day every week to tackle content. People usually form/join them for savage and ultimate raiding :)
@@jackblades90 yes, but SPECIFICALLY one that is preformed and agrees to meet on specific days/specific times. Static is not the same as jumping in with randoms in pf or roulette.
I play shield healer and my savage static disbanded after the leader said they could not continue doing savage anymore because they're doing Dragonsong Ultimate afterwards and it is mentally tiresome for them. I am upset and disappointed because the leader promised me loot next week but suddenly disbanded the static. I havent gotten any gear since we cleared and the leader admitted it was a shitty dick move and told me I should have had gears last week but overlooked the loot list. I was so mad at him I left their discord server and cwls and blocked him in-game. I helped them clear since Asphodelos Savage multiple times and waited for them in Abyssos Savage but I feel like I got fucked. I even have receipts/screenshots of the whole conversation. Really dick move.
Listening to your story, I feel sorry for the person. Every tier, I would make a static, and run together with a group of players all the way to the end. Usually, we would agree to try and get everyone to BiS, before we decide on the next goal together, that is to continue until a set time or disband. The only time I had to remove someone in the static, was due to his toxic behavior, being condescending, talking down to others, screaming just to get attention. Despite, some static members telling me to remove him immediately. I decided not to. Gave him three chances, pm him and ask if he's all right and all. (I know what some of you are thinking, you are doing too much - this is probably coz of my IRL profession, listening to ppl's problem). At the third time, I told him I had no choice but to remove him. Of coz, he was upset with my decision. Going around telling ppl his side of the story getting kicked by me. Those who knew the real story, sided with me. I could have go around and clear my name, with the discord chat that I had with him, but I'm too lazy to do that. A month later, I heard he transferred to EU. I only hope he changed for the better.
I think you gave him many more chances than most of us would! He probably took your kindness for granted and assumed you were just gonna keep talking and never kick him, even if you told him he only had 3 chances. Unfortunately, even if you are going through something, that doesn't make it okay to treat others poorly/take it out on them. We can only hope he learned some sort of lesson and won't repeat his mistakes!
There's too many static with dead weight member(too high or drunk to play) or mia member ( no show no call or player named never there). Expecting people to show up, learn the mechanic and fucking be sober enough to have a brain is not hardcore. It's the bare minimum to be casual. Disrespecting people's time(not showing up) should not be tolerated. In every hobby, if a person part of the team does not show up regularly, he is going to be kicked out. Kicking this person won't make you a bad person or anything. On the contrary, the people who come every week expecting to raid will be happy that you are taking the trash out. Everyone is always happy when they see someone take the trash out of the house/appartment. Does your significant other get angry cause you are taking the trash out ? Keep the trash in for too long and things will start smell, other vegetable(other members) will rot faster if they are not removed.
Sounds like you've had some bad experiences! But yes, while everyone is human and may need to miss a day here and there, it shouldn't be a pattern. Either you commit to a static or you suffer through PF xD Those are basically the options lol.
Another annoying thing IMO in a static is having people putting zero effort into gearing. In my old group, we had a couple people who just had the 570 tome and normal raid gear, and made no effort to optimize stats or get the 590 gear because they were just waiting until they got the 600 savage gear handed to them. I'm not saying everyone needs to be BiS asap, but at least capping tomes and getting temp gear to make prog/farming easier feels like the least people could do out of respect to everyone in the group.
@@Aitherea Sadly many of those peoples want their cake, eat it and also have the luxury of not shitting it after the digestion. At this point, it's a joke and causing problems to others. Yeah, I had too many bad experience for a 2-3 month of raiding savage.
Only barely related, and it really doesn't contribute in any meaningful way, and it sure will come off as bitching, because it IS bitching. But... I hate the PF so much. Thank you for your time.
My pre 6.2 static was legit nightmare tier and we had to full disband because of social contagion. 1 was a of pug we picked up who seemed like a lovley guy untill member 2 and 3 joined. When she joined with her tank bf she was very entitled and rude. It was obvious she wanted to push us to HC high parsing. She constantly shit on me cause I maimed her old job rpr even tho she applied as dnc ( she didnt apply btw her bf applied and said and shes with me) After her attitude the rest of the group also started acting badly towards me as if this was normal. My idea of toxic has allways been somebody who makes others around them act badly too. The 3 of then would eventually constantly attack me, never voice chat and allways single me out and talk shit on me in my boyfriends dms about how aweful I was and that he should dump me. There attacks were so bad in legit didnt want to raid anymore because they would allways shit on me.. She would also allways rage quit p4s when she struggled with a mechanic leaving us high and dry and when invited her for unreals she shit on us for doing time waste content and refused to watch a guide and demanded to go blind when the rest of the group was on enrage and would have happily helped her if she watched the guide Eventually I learned the girl had been kicked from her old static for her toxic behaviour. I dont know where she is now but I feel aweful for them to have to deal with her. The other guy left to go back to PF where he now raids 16 hours a day 7 days a week and is only now on p7s. To this day they still linger in my statics linkshell and discord as if they're keeping an eye on me
What a horrid experience. Honestly, it would probably be worth the trouble to report those people. SE actually does take action against people who harass and bully others as it IS against ToS. It sucks that you had that experience :c I guess now you know for next time the better option is to just block and move on. Even if your performance wasnt optimal, people can help you without being rude. That wasn't help though, that was just ugly-hearted people trying to make themselves feel better by picking on you.
That story of the person getting kicked tho 😕 One of the people in my static decided to privately invite a handful of the other players to raid with them next tier, and exclude everyone else. Which is all fine and great for them, but screw us right? Lol
I had this happen to me during Eden Promise, whm of the group got their E12S clear behind everyone's backs and never asked for people to join them. Left me slightly annoyed especially because that static I was in died at E12S...
sometimes i get frustrated with Endwalker because the game expects you to know how the new mechanics work but dont want to teach you how they work I do vent a bit but I dont mean anything personal against the group of people im playing with.
They recycle mechs a lot, but for some of us a mechanic might still feel new because we've never encountered it before. For example, in the last endwalker dungeon of the MSQ (DE), you have to cure to full to get rid of doom. I didnt even know that was a thing. However, there is a lower level dungeon that has this mech, but i believe it is an OPTIONAL dungeon, so some peopel will never have seen this before! I literally thought you just got doom and died for being dumb or something but no, it can be cured xD Plus in terms of playing healer, we almost never have to use esuna, so whenever they throw in mechs where the healer has to esuna or cure off a debuff, it can take some time to figure it the eff out xD
@@Aitherea then there is the role quests in endwalker my God I can't tell if se forgot that they made 99.9% of bosses immune to interject or if they are trolling on purpose cuz I went into the level 90 role quest and I kept failing over and over again wondering what I did wrong and it turns out there is a mechanic where you have to use interject to interrupt the boss or its insta fail. I was so mad when I found the solution because that skill almost never works.
@@RaidenKaiser THIS IS SO TRUE. I feel like that skill is practically worth removing from the bar because of how it is rarely ever used xD and i feel like when there's an interruptible cast, most people will just use a stun skill??
@@Aitherea honestly I see why bosses resist it because being able to cheese a trial like Headylyn by canceling an entire aoe could get pretty busted but at the same time I feel like instead of making a boss completely immune they should instead just give it an extremely long cooldown like an invuln skill so it can't be abused I feel like making it useless almost the whole game is a bit ridiculous.
@@RaidenKaiser Moves that are interruptible flash instead of staying the full color on the cast bar. This is how you know what and what it does not work on.
Good on that raid leader for kicking them. Too many teams just suffer in silence. If someone is the guy always dragging down progress-they should get dropped. Don’t hold back 6-7 people because 1-2 people are not good enough.
This is why I don't do statics anymore in any MMO! In FFXI my static was RL friends who were all cool about doing Dynamis and other content, then we moved to WoW and did good up until a little after Burning Crusade dropped. After that most of us just didn't have the time to raid full time on sundays anymore. We got married, had kids, college after getting out the military, or other RL stuff. The rampant abuse of newbies who wanted to join the guild/static. Static Leaders doing away with DKP and awarding gear to their favorites or family first that were in the guild. After I left wow and came to FFXIV alpha, beta, and ARR 1.0 the statics were ok at first, but as soon as ARR 2.0 released with more content, then some of that toxic thinking started to pile in. I left my static and haven't been in one since. I have been in some companies that were pretty good and very newbie friendly to new folks. But most I have been in were just downright dirty to newbies. After about 2 years now I have not joined any Company yet on Sargatanas. I may one day but not for any hardcore raiding. I just enjoy making gil for a house I will never get my hands on!
static leader is the one who decided who gets kicked or not, that is why they are the static leader 😂 you cant expect the static leader to kick himself because he doesnt like a member’s performance from his own grp . How i look at it is pretty much you have an underperformer at work and instead of firing him you as president chair ceo w/e of the company you decide to leave said company because of 1 worker who underperforms instead of firing him is pretty much what you are saying.
I understand where you're coming from, but I don't think this person was actually underperforming. In fact, the people who got kicked were dpsing better than some members who didnt. Not to mention the specific person who brought this to my attention was skilled enough to do call outs. If someone is truly performing really badly and can't or wont improve, then yes, they have to be "fired" if you will. But I think at the end of the day, this was a dick move by the static leader. If the people were performing that poorly, they should have been kicked ages ago.
if your raid leader can take that kind of decisions unilaterally that's not a leader, that's a boss, and if your group needs a boss... well, I wouldn't want to be in that group
I dont think so at all! My group is very casual and there are many groups like it where people's goals are to just have fun doing the content and maybe get some glam on the way. I hope my video didnt come across as hating on other people! I just think the situation that inspired this video was handled in a way that was really inconsiderate and hurtful and could have been handled much better.
@@redgeoblaze3752 most rps dont erp but most raiders raid and often look down on other it the case with wow and ffxiv it the reason casuals and raiders have been fighting for ages.
@@Aitherea that nice but doing raids make you no longer casual there are many things that do maybe midcore ,but causal would never or will ever be in a raid unless HE IS FORCE TO(CRSTAL TOWER QUESTLINE ) they stick to there stuff .
@@anteprs7908 you're messing up the analogy here. All Raiders Raid the same way all Roleplayers Roleplay. In the same vein, only some Roleplayers ERP, just like only some Raiders brag and hate each other. it's not that hard, but here I am; explaining it like I'm talking to a 5 year old.
disappointed this video doesn't really discuss the topic in a constructive or informative way... Would have been nice to hear things like: Where should I go to find/form a static What should I bring, logs? Video evidence? If it's my first time raiding every what should I expect (that also brings us back to where should I go) If I'm on console am I automatically excluded from being able to raid with most groups? (Since you've raided in the past your opinions, however varied or obtuse they may be, would be valuable) The list goes on, yet this video covers.... Discord drama and.... Attendance? if I want to actually do raiding then ofc I'm gonna fucking be there why is that the topic for 80% of the video ffs...
this reeks of sensitivy and snowflake energy everyone is different and you are not entitled to good behaviour or "friendlyness" learn to play with people who don't think like you and grow up
Since I started this tier, setting expectations is a pretty big deal. I had doubts about my first static since I wasn't sure how good they were and I wasn't sure where I stood in terms of skills and what I could reasonably scale up my expectations for speed.
My second static after it dissolved answered a lot of questions about etiquette and expectations. Members would talk about openers, discuss strategy. plan mitigations for the timeline, and call on discussions about mistakes and areas of improvement. It felt like everyone else had experience and I got a better idea of how to improve and what expectation I could reasonably set for myself. Which became evident with a group, being a more midcore: we take our damage and strategy seriously but meet less often compared to a hardcore static due to personal life availability.
that second part is exactly how my static is, the group expectations being set early makes such a difference.
I had a TEA static once. It was actually my first ultimate static. This was a casual group and most of them were chill. 2 months pass and we were at Perfect Alex phase at that point everyone was getting burnt out and morale in the group was dwindling. But we still try to make it more fun by chatting and making jokes and all. Our DNC was the one always trying to pump up everyone up every pull and I really appreciate her for this. But she was actually the most burnt out in the group.
At almost the end I stopped talking and our leader talked to me about it. I was kinda like the class clown of the group. So I think he was kinda surprised. I said I just want to focus in progging. Sadly if I start talking I tend to lose a bit focus and sometimes cause a wipe in the group. He laughed and said it's ok if that happens let's try to make it fun for everyone. Such a great guy but I stood my ground and became quiet until we cleared it but during that time it became like a chore progging instead of enjoying it. I started talking again after the first clear and it became fun for me again.
That was one of the best static I ever had. Your video made me appreciate it so much that I had to tell it's story. Thank you for this
Really good etiquette tips! Especially with commitment, and C-O-M-U-N-I-C-A-T-I-O-N!!!
And yeah, Setting Expectations at the beginning is SUPERRRR important.
Changing things up if you hit a wall, and stop progressing isn't necessarily wrong, but it's definitely a decision made with everyone's input, and you give a LOT of notice so it doesn't feel like it comes out of nowhere.. I've lead a few Static/Raid groups, and I've been in that REALLY tough spot when you have that one player, who is just playing very poorly, and is either unable to, or REFUSES to improve. It sucks, but doing nothing will usually lead to wiping to the same mechanics/enrage on the same fight for WEEKS, and that can just make everyone else frustrated, and cause compounding issues.
However, in your specific example, if they were already on P4s I doubt that was an issue. (Also, this late into the tier, you might as well commit)
The person who got kicked also mentioned that they were the one doing call outs for the first half of the fight that they had learned. Sooooooooo. At least in this case, it probably didn't have anything to do with playing so poorly as to wipe the group repeatedly. If you can do the callouts, it's safe to say you know the mechs.
Also maybe it's something I picked up from the military but you should always show up to something 30-15 mintues prior to when the event is to occur. This way that 10 minutes where if you need to get a replacement happens before you actual prog time starts you can make an adjustment and not waste anyones time.
I dont need people to show up early, I'm happy as long as they're on time. A lot of my team is online 10 mins or more before our start time though, so I'm able to invite most of them and get the ball rolling. My team is also pretty good about giving me enough notice to get subs before raid time xD
@@Aitherea :) Whatever works best is best 💙
People showing early isn't necessary but if I get only 10 minutes notice on unavailability and it's not an absolute emergency I'm gonna be pissed. "I'm running a little late because of X" is fine for shorter-term notice (though context dependent) but if someone's straight up unavailable I need to know as soon as possible so I can look for a sub, especially once a tier is going because you start to get schedule conflicts with those potential subs.
@@breadgehog I suppose I didn't mean so much as a requirement but more like a mentality one would self impose. It's not required by anymeans.
Thank you for teaching me static etiquette Senpai
I believe in you :D
To add to this,its important to know how to tackle player-related issues as well.
One of the most common issue that I've encountered is that tension builds up really fast when the team is stuck in a prog point for way too long. Then it snowballs to people holding grudges and issues that are not addressed right away. Which then has a potential to implode and ruin friendships.
That's why some people say "don't raid with friends". Not because of the potential that it could ruin your relationship, but the expectations. You joined a static to commit to a schedule and goal to do and clear content. Fun is given, but if it hinders the group from achieving your group's goal, then tension builds up. It doesn't matter if everyone in the group are super comfortable with each other, because by the end of the day people don't want their time and effort wasted if the static is memeing and not progging. You'll burn out doing that.
Tip : Keep a record of your wipes, and build a graph or just check fflogs so you can have an overview of which phases you are wiping to the most. Sometimes you will notice a trend. For example, if the group prog point is p5, but then you notice that in the previous sessions, your group is getting more wipes in P2-P3 day by day, then there's a problem. Sometimes you have to dig through who makes the most mistakes and talk to them. Sometimes its just a group thing and you have to be extra focused to get that prog. Sometimes you just spot the obvious issues and clear comms during cast bars like you said.
i was looking for people that just want to tackle hard content, found a group that was pretty much into it an now im raiding with my static for like 7 months, every day in the evening - we are not hardcore but we are consistent and with that we got the clears, right now we are still at p8s but everyone knows we will get the boss down eventually.
Its a nice feeling and nobody thinks about blaming somene, misstakes happen and you need to train yourself and others on mechanics.
we dont judge on parses, we dont care if we redo it, we just gather every evening to have fun together and it words great and success comes with time
That is such a lovely group! My group is current on phase 2 of p8s and i think we have a similar vibe. Sometimes people get upset with their own mistakes but no one is really out here blaming one another or creating a negative environment so that's awesome \o/
People need to recontextualize and revaluate the interdependacy of what they do in raiding.
As a schoolteacher, my time gets absolutely fucked by people with zero concept of keeping promises, good time management, preparation, etc.
People are looking at others like utility they can use to get something they want.
Not as people they need to be able to get anything done in the first place.
People who can stick to the clear expectations you set are worth their weight in gold.
Not the 99 parsers with an abysmal time to kill of 100+ hours on blind content.
Not the blind proggers who get their gear then ghost you for reclear nights.
Not people whose immediate response to feeling insecure is to lash out.
I love this game, but I spend so much of my time educating children offline, FFXIV's raid scene really feels sometimes like educating children ONLINE.
Obvs this video is 2mo old but I got the reccomendation now and here are the thoughts.
Why even bother looking for a static when everyone is treated as completely disposable? 90% of the time I'm either let go specifically (and I always ask why its almost never due to performance but some vauge thing they wont define) or the group falls apart due to bad scheduling.
Why bother? it's doomed. Raiding is impossible if u want to do it with a static since nobody is ever going to have one, unless they have 7 real life friends who all play.
Fun fact: the hardest part about savages and ultimates isnt the fight itself its getting 8 knuckleheads to do it
Motivation, consistency, and vibes play such a huge role
As someone with MASSIVE ADHD who both needs callouts and doesn't know how to stop myself from running my mouth, here's a tip: Literally just turn your mic off. Even if it's just for a couple pulls. If you find you're talking a lot and being a distraction, turning your mic off (even if everyone else is still chatting) doesn't just keep you from contributing to the chatter, it changes your headspace and helps you focus (knowing you can't participate kinda helps you tune it out, which helps keep you from getting distracted. It just turns into white noise)
If you are a raid leader or officer in a group with a problem chatter (or if you're close enough friends with the person to not make it weird), it might be worth (respectfully!) discussing this idea with them in private as well, or even with the group as a whole if it's a widespread problem. The ability for the leader to call for a few "mics off" pulls can help re-center the group, especially when it's the last session of the week and you're really pushing for that clear.
LMAO the commentary at the very end. Agreed on all points; punctuality, communicating absences, keeping comms clear when needed, though chatter can be great for bonding.. do ascians poop? We're in their sewer so... Yes. Yes, they do!
Aww you watched to the end! 🥰
Was looking forward to this video since I read about the whole thing in the discord. Also I am disapointed in your mosquito hunting skills :P
So am I... still looking for the bump. The itch is incoming 😭
This example is like a group project for school where you´re near the deadline and one of the guys decides to delete everything and say it wouldn´t be enough to even get a passing grade
i joined this MC group and was having a miserable time for the first 2 weeks cause their pace was slower than what i wanted but around week 3 i tried managing my expectation and i started to enjoy raiding with them even if their damage is not really there so i think expectation can impact how much enjoyment you are going to get when it comes to a static enviroment
There are times where I wish I could go back to old groups I was a part of and see if there's been any change in proper communication/generally treating members well but then I think back to the "rug pulled out from under me" moments and go "Yeah...maybe it's better I don't go down those rabbit holes."
My last group unfortunately split up due to a lack of communication/outlining what was expected of the group from the raid leader. Hopefully one of these days I'll find a comfy static or a psuedo static of fun people like I did during shadowbringers but we'll see. Excellent video! Definitely gonna share it with some of my XIV friends.
I feel like, in some ways, statics can be just as difficult as PF raiding. It can be super hit and miss to find a static that suits your vibe/goals.
I have an incomplete static that will start off as soon as everyone has played through endwalker and it will be casual to midcasual/midcore depending on people's schedules. We primarily want to clear things for glam since we all do RP and we love gameplay as well :3. I made plans and a whole discord server channel that is uneditable with rules and what I expect of people. We don't want to do homework unless we hit a wall because I don't like elitist behaviour and judgement. We are friends and we have too many who have ADHD or people with bad memory so there will be 0 pressure because fun is over perfection. I'm not sure if I'm doing a good job as a newbie in being a static leader but I'm taking notes, learning, and watching videos by others. The main issue is we are missing 3 people still and the rest is getting to endwalker with everyone (4 people started playing only after endwalker released).
Less than one month before tier unlock
"Sorry guys, I want a more hardcore group."
That one ain't a clown, they're the whole circus.
If they've been stuck on a single mech for weeks cuz of 2 or 3 bozos, every moment they wasted carrying them could've been spent progging dsr. Better to cut the losses late then never
i dont have patience for people and my schedule is like doodoo water for statics but damn, i guess alot of people cant communicate or have issues with that cuz ive seen like 4 videos already relating to this issue in the past 3 weeks. kinda weird considring its an online game. good vid, bad mosquito.
Lol, what is a static?
It's party finder avoidance xDD
Man how do you get all the way to P4 and break up the band? By that point you should all be so in sync with eachother you're ALMOST there.
Very easy you get tilted by bad static members not preforming up to the task of new raiding.
For that tier we got to P4s first night but raid leader started being stupid so more then half of us left after second time delayed happened.
We didn’t care we care about each other we just shared a common goal. Then yes half of realized that goal wasn’t going to be met with others in our party so we split ways.
@@healbot not gonna lie buddy I'm sorry that happened to you but the way you look at groups and people is deeply disturbing. People will have different priorities and if your priorities aren't met that's fine to leave and find the right group for you but the people you play with are more than a means to an end.
@@NotTheWheel was going to say a lot but simply you would never get it. More so based on that pathetic last comment.
@@healbot It's a shame you didn't want to share anything further. I hope you have a good day.
@@NotTheWheel it’s a game. they made it to p4s first night, they have expectations of certain a performance metric being met. they also used a lot of “we” language in that comment so im sure it isn’t just their decision that they collectively disbanded. only assuming, but I’m sure they shared the same sentiment at the very beginning of forming the group.
the only thing disturbing is your view of what is considered disturbing.
The thing I don't understand is why this even needs to be taught at all. It's like some people don't actually understand what a commitment is or what it entails. It means showing up and doing your job even if you don't feel like it. If you can't do that, don't commit. Just play on your own time in PF.
Yeah tbh expectations are the most important part. I joined a chill one and yeah we still haven’t cleared turn 1 even tho I got a clear week 1 on pf on monday last minute but tbh the chemistry is what I’ve grown to value much more than progress. I just have so much fun with them I have no trouble with it. We have lost members and I think they wanted a faster group but that’s fine too bc staying just leads to toxicity
I think it's totally fair for people to leave if they realize they want something diff. As long as they do so respectfully without creating drama, it is ultimately better for everyone cuz like you said, staying would probably lead to frustration.
@Aitherea we actually had a talk bc of our slow progress lol it’s totally fair and everyone understood. Honesty is the most important aspect
By my own admission, I can be difficult to raid with. While I'm not one to lash out in angry rants, I tend to become burnt out if there isn't a measure of consistent progress, as I commit to raiding as a whole and take it seriously, with a heavy emphasis on clearing. When there's inevitably a lack of progress, I internalise those failures as being my own fault.
In the case of my last group, I became fully burnt out because we walled for over a month on a mechanic I'd cracked the first time I saw it. It didn't help that 70% of our wipes at that point were from just two people who kept forgetting to do the mechanic. I eventually cleared, but I'm probably doing Anabaseios in either PF, or finding a group that'll better fit what I'm looking for.
well, tried to explained why randomly absent or late are rude to this type of people, and they replied "why are you so serious! it's just a game! lol" they're not gonna understand that it's not about the game, it's about respect other ppl time
see the hard part for me when ive been part of 3 statics before forming my own, is I was the only one who was regularally there on time, and still got shamed for my parse. then before raid on monday, I had a member of my static leave with no word, and wont respond to me from anywhere... so im like :?
one of the biggest things for me is communication and openness. but apparentl;y this person didnt reealise
Communication is SO important. Ive had similar issues with attendance too :c It's okay to take a day off when youre sick, but if people keep missing it really hurts the group's progress as a whole.
A simple "things came up I'm not going to be able to raid with you all anymore" is really all I ask.
I have to agree with you , i have been in quiet a bunch of statics now and i couldnt find the right one ,right now. But i guess thats on me
Honestly it isnt always easy to find 8 people who have the same goals, are at a similar skill level, can play at the same time, and have a good vibe :c
@@Aitherea Its more like a issue with my education to get my real life handled and make it work with a static.
My only story with joining a static was just before EW, they wanted to clear before the expac, I missed 4 days being sick (during the first wave of covid so I figured it was understandble) but when I got back they said they saw enrage so I told myself I really had to preform. Cut to never getting to the second phase of the thancred looking mofo fight and I spoke up and asked for quiet during raid pulls and for people to focus up, we almost cleared that pull. But after that night I got messages on discord saying I'm being kicked, despite seeing people come and go with multiple warnings. I like to think I didn't do anything wrong but I suppose their dynamic was that they liked to talk over call outs throughout the entire fight, but after almost two months and no progress I really couldn't anymore.
You definitely pissed people off by telling them to be quiet. Half the fun of EX/Savage is having fun with your group.
@@yeetus514 really? I thought it was the expectation to be quiet. I'm in a static, we haven't done anything yet until the person setting it up has time but we were told we'd be all muted so one person can do callouts and only unmute when contributing to strat stuff.
@@galacticmoonwolf8462 depends on your groups expectations. From OPs own post he says "Their dynamic was they liked to talk". So if he's telling people to be quiet it kinda goes against the groups expectations. I'd also point out if your static doesn't need a shot caller then it's pretty okay to talk. All depends on your group and how you play.
@@yeetus514 I see, I didn't know other groups talked. See, I love to talk and have fun but I have been told we need to focus and be serious so only one person talks for callouts and we listen and follow. But again, I expect that, my skills aren't good enough so.
And yeah, if people do like to talk then I can see why people may get a little upset if told not to. It's just a communication error on what the OP wanted from the group
@@galacticmoonwolf8462 wow that honestly sounds so wild, I've been in a lot of statics the past six years of playing (even in Hardcore and casual statics) and I've never in my life seen that before
Call out in raids XD When my static (close to) blind proggs, the first runs are pure chaos with everybody talking at the same time. And as we learn and beat one bit of the raid after the next, its getting so quiet, its almost unnerving...
i feel it is just common courtesy that you don't just change the game at the last second and if you are planning changes atleast discuss it with members first.
i have a question tho, what is a static?
It is a pre-formed group that meets at the same time/same day every week to tackle content. People usually form/join them for savage and ultimate raiding :)
@@Aitherea so, a party group...
@@jackblades90 yes, but SPECIFICALLY one that is preformed and agrees to meet on specific days/specific times. Static is not the same as jumping in with randoms in pf or roulette.
I play shield healer and my savage static disbanded after the leader said they could not continue doing savage anymore because they're doing Dragonsong Ultimate afterwards and it is mentally tiresome for them. I am upset and disappointed because the leader promised me loot next week but suddenly disbanded the static. I havent gotten any gear since we cleared and the leader admitted it was a shitty dick move and told me I should have had gears last week but overlooked the loot list. I was so mad at him I left their discord server and cwls and blocked him in-game. I helped them clear since Asphodelos Savage multiple times and waited for them in Abyssos Savage but I feel like I got fucked. I even have receipts/screenshots of the whole conversation. Really dick move.
Listening to your story, I feel sorry for the person. Every tier, I would make a static, and run together with a group of players all the way to the end. Usually, we would agree to try and get everyone to BiS, before we decide on the next goal together, that is to continue until a set time or disband.
The only time I had to remove someone in the static, was due to his toxic behavior, being condescending, talking down to others, screaming just to get attention. Despite, some static members telling me to remove him immediately. I decided not to. Gave him three chances, pm him and ask if he's all right and all. (I know what some of you are thinking, you are doing too much - this is probably coz of my IRL profession, listening to ppl's problem). At the third time, I told him I had no choice but to remove him. Of coz, he was upset with my decision. Going around telling ppl his side of the story getting kicked by me. Those who knew the real story, sided with me. I could have go around and clear my name, with the discord chat that I had with him, but I'm too lazy to do that.
A month later, I heard he transferred to EU. I only hope he changed for the better.
I think you gave him many more chances than most of us would! He probably took your kindness for granted and assumed you were just gonna keep talking and never kick him, even if you told him he only had 3 chances. Unfortunately, even if you are going through something, that doesn't make it okay to treat others poorly/take it out on them. We can only hope he learned some sort of lesson and won't repeat his mistakes!
@@Aitherea it was a lesson for me indeed.
There's too many static with dead weight member(too high or drunk to play) or mia member ( no show no call or player named never there).
Expecting people to show up, learn the mechanic and fucking be sober enough to have a brain is not hardcore. It's the bare minimum to be casual.
Disrespecting people's time(not showing up) should not be tolerated. In every hobby, if a person part of the team does not show up regularly, he is going to be kicked out.
Kicking this person won't make you a bad person or anything. On the contrary, the people who come every week expecting to raid will be happy that you are taking the trash out. Everyone is always happy when they see someone take the trash out of the house/appartment. Does your significant other get angry cause you are taking the trash out ? Keep the trash in for too long and things will start smell, other vegetable(other members) will rot faster if they are not removed.
Sounds like you've had some bad experiences! But yes, while everyone is human and may need to miss a day here and there, it shouldn't be a pattern. Either you commit to a static or you suffer through PF xD Those are basically the options lol.
Another annoying thing IMO in a static is having people putting zero effort into gearing. In my old group, we had a couple people who just had the 570 tome and normal raid gear, and made no effort to optimize stats or get the 590 gear because they were just waiting until they got the 600 savage gear handed to them.
I'm not saying everyone needs to be BiS asap, but at least capping tomes and getting temp gear to make prog/farming easier feels like the least people could do out of respect to everyone in the group.
@@Aitherea Sadly many of those peoples want their cake, eat it and also have the luxury of not shitting it after the digestion.
At this point, it's a joke and causing problems to others.
Yeah, I had too many bad experience for a 2-3 month of raiding savage.
@@OldManInternet True
Only barely related, and it really doesn't contribute in any meaningful way, and it sure will come off as bitching, because it IS bitching. But...
I hate the PF so much.
Thank you for your time.
My pre 6.2 static was legit nightmare tier and we had to full disband because of social contagion. 1 was a of pug we picked up who seemed like a lovley guy untill member 2 and 3 joined. When she joined with her tank bf she was very entitled and rude. It was obvious she wanted to push us to HC high parsing. She constantly shit on me cause I maimed her old job rpr even tho she applied as dnc ( she didnt apply btw her bf applied and said and shes with me)
After her attitude the rest of the group also started acting badly towards me as if this was normal. My idea of toxic has allways been somebody who makes others around them act badly too. The 3 of then would eventually constantly attack me, never voice chat and allways single me out and talk shit on me in my boyfriends dms about how aweful I was and that he should dump me. There attacks were so bad in legit didnt want to raid anymore because they would allways shit on me..
She would also allways rage quit p4s when she struggled with a mechanic leaving us high and dry and when invited her for unreals she shit on us for doing time waste content and refused to watch a guide and demanded to go blind when the rest of the group was on enrage and would have happily helped her if she watched the guide
Eventually I learned the girl had been kicked from her old static for her toxic behaviour. I dont know where she is now but I feel aweful for them to have to deal with her. The other guy left to go back to PF where he now raids 16 hours a day 7 days a week and is only now on p7s. To this day they still linger in my statics linkshell and discord as if they're keeping an eye on me
What a horrid experience. Honestly, it would probably be worth the trouble to report those people. SE actually does take action against people who harass and bully others as it IS against ToS. It sucks that you had that experience :c I guess now you know for next time the better option is to just block and move on. Even if your performance wasnt optimal, people can help you without being rude. That wasn't help though, that was just ugly-hearted people trying to make themselves feel better by picking on you.
That story of the person getting kicked tho 😕
One of the people in my static decided to privately invite a handful of the other players to raid with them next tier, and exclude everyone else. Which is all fine and great for them, but screw us right? Lol
I had this happen to me during Eden Promise, whm of the group got their E12S clear behind everyone's backs and never asked for people to join them. Left me slightly annoyed especially because that static I was in died at E12S...
Dude that same story with your friend happened to me
sometimes i get frustrated with Endwalker because the game expects you to know how the new mechanics work but dont want to teach you how they work I do vent a bit but I dont mean anything personal against the group of people im playing with.
They recycle mechs a lot, but for some of us a mechanic might still feel new because we've never encountered it before. For example, in the last endwalker dungeon of the MSQ (DE), you have to cure to full to get rid of doom. I didnt even know that was a thing. However, there is a lower level dungeon that has this mech, but i believe it is an OPTIONAL dungeon, so some peopel will never have seen this before! I literally thought you just got doom and died for being dumb or something but no, it can be cured xD Plus in terms of playing healer, we almost never have to use esuna, so whenever they throw in mechs where the healer has to esuna or cure off a debuff, it can take some time to figure it the eff out xD
@@Aitherea then there is the role quests in endwalker my God I can't tell if se forgot that they made 99.9% of bosses immune to interject or if they are trolling on purpose cuz I went into the level 90 role quest and I kept failing over and over again wondering what I did wrong and it turns out there is a mechanic where you have to use interject to interrupt the boss or its insta fail. I was so mad when I found the solution because that skill almost never works.
@@RaidenKaiser THIS IS SO TRUE. I feel like that skill is practically worth removing from the bar because of how it is rarely ever used xD and i feel like when there's an interruptible cast, most people will just use a stun skill??
@@Aitherea honestly I see why bosses resist it because being able to cheese a trial like Headylyn by canceling an entire aoe could get pretty busted but at the same time I feel like instead of making a boss completely immune they should instead just give it an extremely long cooldown like an invuln skill so it can't be abused I feel like making it useless almost the whole game is a bit ridiculous.
@@RaidenKaiser Moves that are interruptible flash instead of staying the full color on the cast bar. This is how you know what and what it does not work on.
Lol what's a static. I just like pressing the shiny buttons and killing things🤓
Good on that raid leader for kicking them. Too many teams just suffer in silence. If someone is the guy always dragging down progress-they should get dropped. Don’t hold back 6-7 people because 1-2 people are not good enough.
This is why I don't do statics anymore in any MMO! In FFXI my static was RL friends who were all cool about doing Dynamis and other content, then we moved to WoW and did good up until a little after Burning Crusade dropped. After that most of us just didn't have the time to raid full time on sundays anymore. We got married, had kids, college after getting out the military, or other RL stuff. The rampant abuse of newbies who wanted to join the guild/static. Static Leaders doing away with DKP and awarding gear to their favorites or family first that were in the guild. After I left wow and came to FFXIV alpha, beta, and ARR 1.0 the statics were ok at first, but as soon as ARR 2.0 released with more content, then some of that toxic thinking started to pile in. I left my static and haven't been in one since. I have been in some companies that were pretty good and very newbie friendly to new folks. But most I have been in were just downright dirty to newbies. After about 2 years now I have not joined any Company yet on Sargatanas. I may one day but not for any hardcore raiding. I just enjoy making gil for a house I will never get my hands on!
static leader is the one who decided who gets kicked or not, that is why they are the static leader 😂 you cant expect the static leader to kick himself because he doesnt like a member’s performance from his own grp . How i look at it is pretty much you have an underperformer at work and instead of firing him you as president chair ceo w/e of the company you decide to leave said company because of 1 worker who underperforms instead of firing him is pretty much what you are saying.
I understand where you're coming from, but I don't think this person was actually underperforming. In fact, the people who got kicked were dpsing better than some members who didnt. Not to mention the specific person who brought this to my attention was skilled enough to do call outs. If someone is truly performing really badly and can't or wont improve, then yes, they have to be "fired" if you will. But I think at the end of the day, this was a dick move by the static leader. If the people were performing that poorly, they should have been kicked ages ago.
if your raid leader can take that kind of decisions unilaterally that's not a leader, that's a boss, and if your group needs a boss... well, I wouldn't want to be in that group
Static CEO
@@cyne122 Static Gigachad CEO
@kire tan lmao you didnt comprehend anything this person said or pay attention for that matter.
Raiders are raiders all they do is brag and hate each other
I dont think so at all! My group is very casual and there are many groups like it where people's goals are to just have fun doing the content and maybe get some glam on the way. I hope my video didnt come across as hating on other people! I just think the situation that inspired this video was handled in a way that was really inconsiderate and hurtful and could have been handled much better.
that's like saying that all Roleplayers do is ERP, or all story-watchers do is wipe dungeons.
@@redgeoblaze3752 most rps dont erp but most raiders raid and often look down on other it the case with wow and ffxiv it the reason casuals and raiders have been fighting for ages.
@@Aitherea that nice but doing raids make you no longer casual there are many things that do maybe midcore ,but causal would never or will ever be in a raid unless HE IS FORCE TO(CRSTAL TOWER QUESTLINE ) they stick to there stuff .
@@anteprs7908 you're messing up the analogy here.
All Raiders Raid the same way all Roleplayers Roleplay.
In the same vein, only some Roleplayers ERP, just like only some Raiders brag and hate each other.
it's not that hard, but here I am; explaining it like I'm talking to a 5 year old.
L + Ratio on your lily use🥶
I'm a boomer so I have no idea wtf that means c:
disappointed this video doesn't really discuss the topic in a constructive or informative way...
Would have been nice to hear things like:
Where should I go to find/form a static
What should I bring, logs? Video evidence?
If it's my first time raiding every what should I expect (that also brings us back to where should I go)
If I'm on console am I automatically excluded from being able to raid with most groups?
(Since you've raided in the past your opinions, however varied or obtuse they may be, would be valuable)
The list goes on, yet this video covers.... Discord drama and.... Attendance?
if I want to actually do raiding then ofc I'm gonna fucking be there why is that the topic for 80% of the video ffs...
this reeks of sensitivy and snowflake energy
everyone is different and you are not entitled to good behaviour or "friendlyness"
learn to play with people who don't think like you and grow up