Hello, would you please make a video about the explination of the martial arts in Ghost Recon Breakpoint, Ghost Recon Narco Road, Ghost Recon Wildlands and Ghost Recon Fallen Ghosts? Here are some videos about the martial arts in all of those videogames: Ghost Recon® Wildlands: All CQC Takedowns Pt.III (Year 1 Pass Echelon Gloves Edition) m.ruclips.net/video/CpYLKRPeSXQ/видео.html Ghost Recon® Wildlands: All CQC Takedowns Pt.II (Add On Edition) m.ruclips.net/video/BYgPFgmJ4Z4/видео.html Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon Breakpoint | All CQC Takedowns and Executions + Slow Motion m.ruclips.net/video/sfWpBHR-NbQ/видео.html Ghost Recon Wildlands all takedowns m.ruclips.net/video/kOCGAqEHfMQ/видео.html Ghost Recon Breakpoint All CQC Takedowns m.ruclips.net/video/lCAP9L3HYPg/видео.html Ghost Recon Breakpoint all Takedowns, Finishers, Kills in 1080p m.ruclips.net/video/5CLg8P0EvcY/видео.html Thanks
You are correct! As per Logan, "Seagal first slash is to Jones's LEFT hand, not his right hand. That's possible. Not ideal, but possible". Thanks for keeping us in check.
Holy shitballs - I only saw this comment now. You are the only person to ever make the Bachelor Cooking connection. Congrats! And thanks for the comment - made my night!
I see The Hunted was suggested just two days ago... totally agree, this movie needs to be done immediately! Tommy Lee Jones vs Benicia Del Toro has gotta be one of the best movie knife fight scenes ever!
Stevie actually was doing a down and outward stabbing thrust from about his right shoulder to his left waist line with about a 3/4 extension of his arm to leave the elbow slightly bent so that he could easily change directions with a little inward turn of the wrist, he's now attacking to his right side with a backhanded slicing motion cutting Tommy's left off hand (unarmed) wrist. What I don't understand is why Tommy's hand is out so far from his chest with his palm open instead of having it back closer to his body to protect his vital organs.
The most annoying thing is that a guy who is supposed to be a badass chef didn't arm himself with the chef knife in the movie's big fight fight scene. Also, it just wasn't tense to have have Seagal dominating the entire fight, there had to be some impression that the badguy might win or else it's just a cruel beatdown.
Jay Vang I forgot about that! People think Steven Seagal is a fraud but the thing is, he’s simply the most dedicated character actor in all of history and he never breaks character. Makes Daniel Day Lewis look like a rank amateur
I once met a Vietnam Vet, who was a part of the 101st Airborne, but he told me that as he was coming out of a bar a Vietnamese guy sliced his wrist and he almost died from it. Also, another one of my teacher's, who was also a Vietnam Vet in the 2nd Rangers and use to be a meat cutter for a living, accidentally sliced his wrist while cutting meat. He told me that once you take a slice to the wrist the whole hand goes numb and the blood will shoot several feet from the body. He told me that once you take a slice to the wrist then there is no way the person is going to hold onto the knife. Also, the sternum is very difficult to penetrate and the knife fighter would have to go underneath xiphoid process, or in between the collar bone to get to the heart.
I honestly have no experience with knife fighting techniques, but I've been told that when defending against a knife, being cut is inevitable, and it's best to end up being cut in places that aren't going to cause you to bleed out so profusely. (Arteries and such) I've seen some people teach others to use their outer forearms to cover the body and head, throat, etc. if being cut can't be avoided when you are defending while unarmed. I don't proclaim to know if that is even a good idea or not as luckily I haven't had to fight against someone seriously attacking me with a knife looking to kill.
@@loneronin6813 I studied Penjack Silat Sera Serak and they do train you to turn the palms up, so that the cuts can be received on the forearms. Honestly if you see a knife then you should run if you can. If you cannot run then get an equalizer such as your belt, a chair, or anything that could increase your odds of survival. There are people that are good at disarming knives, but they only work on people that have a shallow understanding of the weapon. It takes 20 years to produce a martial arts master. If you take a person and train him for 2 weeks with a knife then they will kill all the masters with 20 years of experience.
@@justinquaid2610 I agree with you there, dealing with a knife-wielding attacker is no joke and should never be engaged if you can escape. Unfortunately in my case I'm not a very good runner these days due to physical disabilities, but I imagine I could force myself to sprint for a bit if my life was potentially on the line. The way I see it, any kind of physical altercation should be avoided whenever possible. It's not cowardly to disengage once you have the chance, it's being smart. I would much rather talk my way out of violence if I can, and escape once I have the chance. Just because you can fight doesn't mean you have to unless you have no chance to get away. Also your suggestions for an equalizer are greatly appreciated. I would never have thought to use my belt but that's really clever :) Thanks so much for your advice and for taking the time to respond to my comment. I hope you have a wonderful day and that you continue to be well in all things.
@@loneronin6813 I too have a physical disability that affects my walking. I had a traumatic brain injury at a very early age, so I walk like I have cerebral palsy. It wouldn't be wise for me to run and I have to stand my ground no matter what. There's been a couple situations where I had to pull my knife. The state I live in is real strict on gun control, so I carry a knife.
The misconception is what is being cut. Arteries tend to run coaxial to the bone. Specifically in the radial joint (wrist) they run slightly between the two bones. An arterial cut in this area is not likely. The veins however... they tend to run closer to the surface. Regardless if defending from close end you tend to want to block with lower forearm (if you can not disengage and have no other options) the meaty part closer to the elbow. The muscle works as a buffer to cuts, painful and possibly debilitating yes but allowing for defense of veins arteries and tendons. Which brings us to joint targeting. Targeting joints with blades allows the neutralization of that joint. Defanging the snake as the videographers described. Since tendons are necessary for articulation cutting these renders the joint itself useless. Sense nerve paths tend to run coaxial to these it is likely that you also sever nerve complexes causing anything below the joint to be useless as well. Even baring a clean cut a nerve cut effects a range of feeling from numbness and disambiguation to extreme pain. As for the chest stabbing. It's not necessary to penetrate the heart. The aortic process runs on top of the 4th I believe rib close to the sternum (right where the ribs attach) also getting into the 3rd 4th or even 5th separation can puncture a lung causing a lung collapse. This (tension nuemathorax) can severely limit a fighter effectively ending the fight and potentially causing death if not operated on. Interestingly I know this from training on how to treat a tension pneumothorax
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If they start looking at games, there's also all the CQC in MGS and that knife fight with Raiden and Vamp in guns of the Patriots. Granted I could never see that cause I was too busy getting killed.
I feel you on this one Logan. I loved this fight scene as a barely out of college young man with no fight training. Now after quite a lot of government and martial arts training (the last several years in PTK/SMF) I can see it for the ridiculousness that it is. Makes me shed one manly tear. Keep up the good work, gents.
This is my favorite breakdown to date. Very entertaining and informative, and I can't help but agree that this film is one that made an impact on me as a kid but looking back I have to laugh at it after having some training under my belt. Fun to see it picked apart in a friendly way.
Really appreciate the feedback! It was the 90s, Hollywood action films weren't the most realistic then, but as a kid, it def was super cool. We plan to do more breakdowns in the future!
Scenic Fights I love martial arts too, studied hapkido, MCMAP, MMA. Review the knife fights from, the Hunted, Commando, after training real life knife fighting and studied film making I must say, film makers will spend hours shooting and editing to make any fight seem super cool, they don’t want realism, they want quality entertainment.
Just as an FYI, Tommy Lee Jones's character at this point in the movie has also acute hearing loss and a loss of balance too due to an earlier incident in the movie where he stood too close to an active cannon so his movements and reasoning for those movements here compared to what you think he should be doing seem perfectly OK for a person who has just gone mentally unbalanced
The breakdowns on this channel are awesome. I also have to note that I appreciate to attention to safety that you guys have. It shows professionalism and respect for what you do.
I've done training in knife fighting and jujitsu and I agree with everything you said. You even used many of the same terms we used in our training. I was taught that, with a single blade knife, to always have the blade in the direction of your knuckles. So with an ice pick grip the blade would be up as you're fighting and with a hammer grip, it would be down. That's probably just a difference in styles and instructors.
PLEASE look at Captain America: Winter Soldier. It's very quick but when the winter soldier knife flips in combat with Captain America I thought it was very unique. Is it realistic?
Also, you have to go into this breakdown and the scene itself knowing some of the things Steven Seagal has in every one of his acting contracts. He "does not" ever take a real hit or injury. It is literally in his contracts that he is perfect in every way, can never get hit or cut in any effective way or shot and always wins in every encounter. This can definitely alter how a fight scene is done when only one of the fighters is going to ever get hit.
Where do you get that? He was beaten, bloody and drugged in Above The Law. He was shot and nearly killed in Hard To Kill and remained in a coma for 7 years.
ruclips.net/video/hiWW5VeKH94/видео.html ruclips.net/video/tUvATbt8D8c/видео.html I can't believe 12 people liked your comment. None if you must have seen any of his movies or are so young you don't know any better.
There were no contracts about this. Later on, after the Under-siege movies, he would request of the writers that he doesn't get hurt. In this scene here he gets cut once. He also almost gets killed earlier but his girlfriend saves him. In under siege two he gets shot. It just doesn't affect him much though. In Out for justice, he never gets hurt and doesn't even break a sweat during any fight. But initially, his first movies, he got beat to shit a few times. But like he told David Goyer, he felt his audience didn't like seeing him hurt.
Important thing to point out about the "bite" moment... it's very subtle, but important... Seagal actually cranks Tommy's knife holding wrist FIRST before he bites the knife. In other words, it's Seagal's Aiki Budo wrist lock that makes Tommy Lee loosen the knife grip, and THEN he bites the knife away, gouges Tommy's eyes, and head stabs him.
min 4:36 shows that he just holds him on the sleeve, it doesn't look like he's even touching his wrist. Unless it's only with the thumb, which we can't see. Doesn't seem likely...
I loved these movies, Tommy is great and Seagal too. That looked like a Gerber mark II, I had one when I was in the Marines. I used to wet a towel and roll it up as tight as I could get it then make money betting guys I could stab my knife deeper than they could theirs, the Gerber was so sharp with such a fine point you could just push it all the way through. Point being (get it), that leather jacket wouldn't slow that knife down.
Nice. One factoid was overlooked. Steven Seagal is 6' 5" he towers over Tommy Lee Jones with long arms to boot. Tommy Lee Jones is only 6 ft. almost half a foot shorter than Seagal.
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There was a point in my life where I thought Steven Seagal was the best martial arts actor out there. That was before I knew much of anything. Under Siege was one of the only films I really knew and it was before I had any formal training. Man... looking back, I was an idiot.
What I've learned: All blade arts are about angles and angle control. Longsword, elizibithian rapier, fencing(foil and epee, I have no experience with saber) and knives. Cool.
I completely agree with the points you a making is this breakdown. But from a purely cinematic point of view it is totally badass and savage the move where he bits the knife. It is Very hard to please everyone in this business. I try my best as a martial artist and stuntperformer to do legit moves and at the same time do things that only would work in a movie. And I respect both. Love MMA as Much as I love Kung fu movies.
I think that you didn't understand this fight scene correctly. When Steven Seagal cuts Tommy Lee Jone's wrist, it's not Jone's right hand which he's using to hold a knife. It looked to me like Steven Seagal actually cuts the wrist of Tommy Lee Jone's empty left arm. Steven Seagal who's holding his knife in his right hand just simply horizontally slashed Tommy Lee Jone's left wrist because his empty left arm/hand was flailing around. I think you got confused because your reenactment is wrong, you have Seagal on the left side and Jones on the right side. In the fight scene, it's actually the complete opposite with Jones on the left side and Seagal on the right side. I just wanted to point that out and give a little bit of constructive criticism. By the way, I just discovered your RUclips channel and it's quite amazing!!!! I'm now a subscriber, love your content!!!!
Sorry to say, but it's actually very obvious in the scene, especially given these guys were pausing to study. I couldn't get past that just started laughing, knife experts? Okay, sure.
Real martial techniques dont look flashy but the acrobatics and choreography puts butts in seats....the best fight scene i ever saw was the alley scene in the movie they live...
I think it's how Seagal is catching him open and not mutual. Yes, You need to break down the knife fighting in the movie Hunted and probably the James Bond vs knife scene in Quantum of Solace, and Golden Eye
@@ScenicFights ok cool, I hope to see how you break down the Quantum of Solace hotel knife fight scene. As for Goldeneye, it wasn't a knife but a wooden rod.
Thank you good sir for posting this great video. Knife fighting and defense is serious , and deadly business. This writer appreciates how you broke this scene down into a logical explanation. You have a new subscriber!
Fast forward today Steven Seagal is perfecting the stabbing away on some serious brisket pork loin from a sitting position mostly few times a day. A true master chef
I never realized how ridiculous biting the knife was until I watched this breakdown. Can't stop me from laughing. Whoever thought of biting that knife must have been high. :p
Though as someone who has done some blade smithing and is generally a fan of edged weapons (though more for the historical significance and craftsmanship than anything) - I am not sure if I agree with your evaluation of the two different knives. I was under the impression that the cross section of a dagger was significantly stronger than that of a kitchen knife when it comes to stabbing and penetration (both due to blade geometry and the thickness of the blade stock). If I am mistaken, could someone please clarify?
I just rewatched Undersiege for the first time in a long while and after seeing Seagal biting the knife, I had to find like minded ppl like myself who thought that was the most outrageous bs ever lol..... not just the biting of the knife but also that Jones' character had absolutely NO REASON, to let go of the knife like he did
Very good! The movie is fun, for sure. But real Martial Arts are a way to set ourselves free from illusions. Your interpretations are evidence of it. Great video!
@@ScenicFights I was wondering if you guys breakdown fight scenes from videogames I'd like to see some metal gear solid franchise cqc stuff especially from metal gear solid 3 snake eater. Specifically the cqc combat between naked snake and the boss. Also the knife fight from resident evil 4 between Jack Krauser and Leon Kennedy. However I also think the early 2000 punisher movie or the Netflix series has a lot of good cqc and knife scenes you guys could cover. Much love.
I remember first seeing this movie when it came out. I know nothing about knife fighting, but I knew enough to know you don’t ever bite a knife blade for any reason. I remember actually laughing out loud in the theater when he bit that knife. I guess the director thought it would look tough, but it just looked stupid and foolish. I can’t imagine what coordinator thought that would make the fight look better?
Yes please. The Hunted and Capt America Winter Soldier are cool, cinematic scenes. My vote for best realistic knife fight scene is: Coriolanus with Fiennes and Butler. 🤙🏼
Its Steven Seagal he can do anything he wants bite knives, catch bullets with his bare hands kick a in coming tomahawk missile and stop it from detonating. Amazing actor.
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Several impressive sword duels between Keith Carradine and Harvey Keitel in Ridley Scott's directorial debut, The Duelists. I am aware they used some sort of battery connection to give the appearance of sparks when the blades clash, but I'm curious about the actual moves. Thx.
Great video.. Have you made a break down vid of or seen the knife fight between Lou Diamond Phillips (Chavez) and Christian Slater (Arkansas Dave) in the 1990s Young Guns 2?
@Cyrus Wexler Seagal is well versed in Kali and Escrima (despite the bite move for the movie). He's been training knife fighting for years. Dude is a well versed marksman too.
You guys have done great reviews of modern fight scenes where the fighting is technically correct and older fight scenes (like this one) that were pretty technically wrong. Do you think that making a fight scene more technically correct goes a long way towards making it more exciting or is that more a matter of the acting and how it is shot?
steven segal doesn't really know how to fight let alone use a knife . So of course this doesn't make any sense. But the way the edited makes him look good in the movie so that's enough for him. But with that being said I;m a fan of all of his movies LOL
Steven segal is trained in aikido which is a non violent non attack style. Its all reactionary defense. Makes sense he wouldnt know how to use a knife well
@@PromethiaSHADOW "non violent non attack style" - a fake dance that does not work in the street. Combat cannot be "non-attack" - if you don't have a threat against your opponent, you cannot keep him at range, he will just come immediately next to you and strangle you or cut you open. From certain distance, attacks become too quick to react to in time, therefore you must stop your opponent with a threat of your own - if you don't have it, he will just advance and kill you. That's why stuff like "unarmed vs. knife" does not really work.
It's just another round of Hollywood waving. Experienced knife fights do not lead with the knife precisely for the reasons in the first moment - you don't offer your weapon hand as a target. Left foot forward, left hand forward (preferably wrapped in clothes - coat, poncho, blanket) and first they try to create an opportunity, and stab you only when the hit is sure or probable. As someone said "there is no such thing as a knife fight". The knife is too short to provide any sort of defense, the confrontation ends the moment one side disables the other, usually by stabbing something critical.
I've had extensive hand to hand training in my younger years and my best weapon is my head because my brains are in it and my head tells me to do everything to not have to engage and get away to the high ground and try to get the drop on my attacker. Once you are in the fight your adrenaline controls you and the panic fight or flight response comes in. I was in one hand to hand knife fight and I won, but I sustained a good stab just below my belly button and some hand and forearm lacerations. In the end my combat knife isn't what helped me win the fight. It was me overpowering the suspect and disarming him. I'd say the knife in my hand didn't help me at all.
Please breakdown the fight scene in Quantum of Solace where the guy comes at Daniel Craig from a closet with a knife and gets killed with broken glass.
Please could you review some of the scenes from the hunted? There’s a short knife exchange, a brilliant ending fight and also some training scenes where they instruct recruits in how to kill with a knife. Would love to see you review any of those scenes.
The woman who choreographed this fight said she had this beautiful scene planned out, movement by movement, to perfection. Then, the reality of Hollywood set in... The beginning of the fight still looks like her original plan but then it goes way off the rails.
Biting a knife like that in real life would have some extremely painful and horrific consequences. I don't even wanna think about what it would do to person's mouth. Fuckin ouch!
In the original version Steven Seagal bit the knife in half, chewed it up and spit the pieces in Tommy Lee Jones' eyes then stabbed him in the head, but they took it out because it was too real.
I just saw the fight scene, in this Steven Segal does bites the knife but at the same time he also pokes Tommy Lee's right eye with his thumb, that's where he loses the grip, but I still don't understand even if u poke the eye, can one loose his grip ?
I think the knife cutting through the mouth whilst SG has it would be called a Chelsea Smile, but could also be called similar in Glasgow. Very good video btw 👍
Nice. Fun channel! Keep it up!
Really appreciate it Ron! Doing our best to grow and create more content!
Hello, would you please make a video about the explination of the martial arts in Ghost Recon Breakpoint, Ghost Recon Narco Road, Ghost Recon Wildlands and Ghost Recon Fallen Ghosts?
Here are some videos about the martial arts in all of those videogames:
Ghost Recon® Wildlands: All CQC Takedowns Pt.III (Year 1 Pass Echelon Gloves Edition)
m.ruclips.net/video/CpYLKRPeSXQ/видео.html
Ghost Recon® Wildlands: All CQC Takedowns Pt.II (Add On Edition)
m.ruclips.net/video/BYgPFgmJ4Z4/видео.html
Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon Breakpoint | All CQC Takedowns and Executions + Slow Motion
m.ruclips.net/video/sfWpBHR-NbQ/видео.html
Ghost Recon Wildlands all takedowns
m.ruclips.net/video/kOCGAqEHfMQ/видео.html
Ghost Recon Breakpoint All CQC Takedowns
m.ruclips.net/video/lCAP9L3HYPg/видео.html
Ghost Recon Breakpoint all Takedowns, Finishers, Kills in 1080p
m.ruclips.net/video/5CLg8P0EvcY/видео.html
Thanks
"once i can see his back,HES MINE"
Holy shit
No homo? Or, maybe, who knows
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Tommy lee Jones has the knife in his right hand, Seagal cuts his left wrist.
Dammit! It still would have been mutual destruction, but you're right.
You are correct! As per Logan, "Seagal first slash is to Jones's LEFT hand, not his right hand. That's possible. Not ideal, but possible". Thanks for keeping us in check.
@@ScenicFights No problem. I'm loving the channel.
i commented that too before i read yours,you are right!
Which would have caused arterial spray, and we would have started to bleed out very quickly
Don’t bite the knife bite the hand and they’ll let go... love these breakdowns
@Indigo V are stupid or what? Using your logic, someone who isn't shot by a gun can not be a gun expert or expert marksman..
@Indigo V Yeah, no, he doesn't need to stab. He could've easily just slashed, as explained in the video, giving him a Glasgow smile.
@Indigo V the person youRe fighting mustve been an idiot
@@Qaptyl its its obviously Steven Segal's burner account
This video just randomly appeared on my home page, clicked on it and thought "isn't that the guy who used to teach Rain how to cook?". Amazing!
Holy shitballs - I only saw this comment now. You are the only person to ever make the Bachelor Cooking connection. Congrats! And thanks for the comment - made my night!
Legend says, till this day he's still biting that knife
Another movie with Tommy Lee Jones with some cool knife sequences you all should break down is called the Hunted.
Oopos you posted the suggestion already i did not see it xD
I see The Hunted was suggested just two days ago... totally agree, this movie needs to be done immediately! Tommy Lee Jones vs Benicia Del Toro has gotta be one of the best movie knife fight scenes ever!
@@Pinkz604 Yeah right after I posted the suggestion I saw somebody else asked for it. Hopefully they do it. Super awesome movie!
this one, please!
Yeah good movie. He needs to break that one down.
The way you look so exasperated at the end when you have to tell kids not to bite the knives...
Stevie actually was doing a down and outward stabbing thrust from about his right shoulder to his left waist line with about a 3/4 extension of his arm to leave the elbow slightly bent so that he could easily change directions with a little inward turn of the wrist, he's now attacking to his right side with a backhanded slicing motion cutting Tommy's left off hand (unarmed) wrist. What I don't understand is why Tommy's hand is out so far from his chest with his palm open instead of having it back closer to his body to protect his vital organs.
I just saw the video. You pretty much just Saif what I was thinking lol
The most annoying thing is that a guy who is supposed to be a badass chef didn't arm himself with the chef knife in the movie's big fight fight scene.
Also, it just wasn't tense to have have Seagal dominating the entire fight, there had to be some impression that the badguy might win or else it's just a cruel beatdown.
Agreed. Ultimately it felt like Ryback was toying with him.
Sounds like the knife fight in the sequel tbh. Really took the tension out of the fight when he basically walks in and beats buddy effortlessly
Steven seagal himself does not make a lot of sense 😄
Which version? Hispanic or Japanese or Native American?
@@anonymousbosch9265 Russian Mongol Steven Seagal 😂
Jay Vang I forgot about that! People think Steven Seagal is a fraud but the thing is, he’s simply the most dedicated character actor in all of history and he never breaks character. Makes Daniel Day Lewis look like a rank amateur
@@anonymousbosch9265 Daniel Day Lewis couldn't keep it up, but for Steven "Genghis" Segal, it's 24/⁷, 3⁶5 days
Jay Vang you fucken know it!
I once met a Vietnam Vet, who was a part of the 101st Airborne, but he told me that as he was coming out of a bar a Vietnamese guy sliced his wrist and he almost died from it. Also, another one of my teacher's, who was also a Vietnam Vet in the 2nd Rangers and use to be a meat cutter for a living, accidentally sliced his wrist while cutting meat. He told me that once you take a slice to the wrist the whole hand goes numb and the blood will shoot several feet from the body. He told me that once you take a slice to the wrist then there is no way the person is going to hold onto the knife. Also, the sternum is very difficult to penetrate and the knife fighter would have to go underneath xiphoid process, or in between the collar bone to get to the heart.
I honestly have no experience with knife fighting techniques, but I've been told that when defending against a knife, being cut is inevitable, and it's best to end up being cut in places that aren't going to cause you to bleed out so profusely. (Arteries and such) I've seen some people teach others to use their outer forearms to cover the body and head, throat, etc. if being cut can't be avoided when you are defending while unarmed. I don't proclaim to know if that is even a good idea or not as luckily I haven't had to fight against someone seriously attacking me with a knife looking to kill.
@@loneronin6813 I studied Penjack Silat Sera Serak and they do train you to turn the palms up, so that the cuts can be received on the forearms. Honestly if you see a knife then you should run if you can. If you cannot run then get an equalizer such as your belt, a chair, or anything that could increase your odds of survival. There are people that are good at disarming knives, but they only work on people that have a shallow understanding of the weapon. It takes 20 years to produce a martial arts master. If you take a person and train him for 2 weeks with a knife then they will kill all the masters with 20 years of experience.
@@justinquaid2610 I agree with you there, dealing with a knife-wielding attacker is no joke and should never be engaged if you can escape. Unfortunately in my case I'm not a very good runner these days due to physical disabilities, but I imagine I could force myself to sprint for a bit if my life was potentially on the line. The way I see it, any kind of physical altercation should be avoided whenever possible. It's not cowardly to disengage once you have the chance, it's being smart. I would much rather talk my way out of violence if I can, and escape once I have the chance. Just because you can fight doesn't mean you have to unless you have no chance to get away. Also your suggestions for an equalizer are greatly appreciated. I would never have thought to use my belt but that's really clever :) Thanks so much for your advice and for taking the time to respond to my comment. I hope you have a wonderful day and that you continue to be well in all things.
@@loneronin6813 I too have a physical disability that affects my walking. I had a traumatic brain injury at a very early age, so I walk like I have cerebral palsy. It wouldn't be wise for me to run and I have to stand my ground no matter what. There's been a couple situations where I had to pull my knife. The state I live in is real strict on gun control, so I carry a knife.
The misconception is what is being cut. Arteries tend to run coaxial to the bone. Specifically in the radial joint (wrist) they run slightly between the two bones. An arterial cut in this area is not likely. The veins however... they tend to run closer to the surface.
Regardless if defending from close end you tend to want to block with lower forearm (if you can not disengage and have no other options) the meaty part closer to the elbow. The muscle works as a buffer to cuts, painful and possibly debilitating yes but allowing for defense of veins arteries and tendons.
Which brings us to joint targeting. Targeting joints with blades allows the neutralization of that joint. Defanging the snake as the videographers described. Since tendons are necessary for articulation cutting these renders the joint itself useless. Sense nerve paths tend to run coaxial to these it is likely that you also sever nerve complexes causing anything below the joint to be useless as well. Even baring a clean cut a nerve cut effects a range of feeling from numbness and disambiguation to extreme pain.
As for the chest stabbing. It's not necessary to penetrate the heart. The aortic process runs on top of the 4th I believe rib close to the sternum (right where the ribs attach) also getting into the 3rd 4th or even 5th separation can puncture a lung causing a lung collapse. This (tension nuemathorax) can severely limit a fighter effectively ending the fight and potentially causing death if not operated on. Interestingly I know this from training on how to treat a tension pneumothorax
I am studying Kali and enjoyed your analysis of the films. I have been doing the same thing and discussing it with my Guru.
We really appreciate the comment, Michael! Logan and the team are looking into 1 on 1 online Kali classes and once we are ready, we hope to share more information with all our viewers!
Best knife fight is between Leon and Krauser in resident evil 4.
Agreed.
I wouldn't know, I was busy waiting for quick time commands.
pls review this fight plsss
This is facts, please review this fight !
If they start looking at games, there's also all the CQC in MGS and that knife fight with Raiden and Vamp in guns of the Patriots. Granted I could never see that cause I was too busy getting killed.
This is currently my favorite channel....so many specialize in different martial arts but not too many weapons and cqc breakdowns love it guys!!!!
I feel you on this one Logan. I loved this fight scene as a barely out of college young man with no fight training. Now after quite a lot of government and martial arts training (the last several years in PTK/SMF) I can see it for the ridiculousness that it is. Makes me shed one manly tear.
Keep up the good work, gents.
PTK/SMF FTW!
This is my favorite breakdown to date. Very entertaining and informative, and I can't help but agree that this film is one that made an impact on me as a kid but looking back I have to laugh at it after having some training under my belt. Fun to see it picked apart in a friendly way.
Really appreciate the feedback! It was the 90s, Hollywood action films weren't the most realistic then, but as a kid, it def was super cool. We plan to do more breakdowns in the future!
Did you know Superman flying is just an effect ?
How realstic do you guys think the raid 1 and 2 are
We're curious ourselves! Something we might look into in the future.
Scenic Fights I love martial arts too, studied hapkido, MCMAP, MMA. Review the knife fights from, the Hunted, Commando, after training real life knife fighting and studied film making I must say, film makers will spend hours shooting and editing to make any fight seem super cool, they don’t want realism, they want quality entertainment.
I want to see those as well! Raid 2 especially!
You guys like the raid? Finally some people with culture
We don't like the Raid. We LOVE IT.
Just as an FYI, Tommy Lee Jones's character at this point in the movie has also acute hearing loss and a loss of balance too due to an earlier incident in the movie where he stood too close to an active cannon so his movements and reasoning for those movements here compared to what you think he should be doing seem perfectly OK for a person who has just gone mentally unbalanced
The breakdowns on this channel are awesome. I also have to note that I appreciate to attention to safety that you guys have. It shows professionalism and respect for what you do.
I've done training in knife fighting and jujitsu and I agree with everything you said. You even used many of the same terms we used in our training. I was taught that, with a single blade knife, to always have the blade in the direction of your knuckles. So with an ice pick grip the blade would be up as you're fighting and with a hammer grip, it would be down. That's probably just a difference in styles and instructors.
And if were talking anime, the knife fight between Batou and Kuze in Ghost in the Shell is epic. However short it may be.
The answer is simple:
Seagal: hero - always win
Tommy: villain - definitely lost
Thanks for doing this scene guys! Great breakdown and it got the grade it deserved. I knew you'd trash the knife bite! haha
Haha no problem! Thanks for recommending the knife scene! It was a fun one.
PLEASE look at Captain America: Winter Soldier. It's very quick but when the winter soldier knife flips in combat with Captain America I thought it was very unique. Is it realistic?
We did the full breakdown here for you: ruclips.net/video/-Ci6ttRVSRU/видео.html
Also, you have to go into this breakdown and the scene itself knowing some of the things Steven Seagal has in every one of his acting contracts. He "does not" ever take a real hit or injury. It is literally in his contracts that he is perfect in every way, can never get hit or cut in any effective way or shot and always wins in every encounter. This can definitely alter how a fight scene is done when only one of the fighters is going to ever get hit.
Where do you get that? He was beaten, bloody and drugged in Above The Law. He was shot and nearly killed in Hard To Kill and remained in a coma for 7 years.
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I can't believe 12 people liked your comment. None if you must have seen any of his movies or are so young you don't know any better.
There were no contracts about this. Later on, after the Under-siege movies, he would request of the writers that he doesn't get hurt. In this scene here he gets cut once. He also almost gets killed earlier but his girlfriend saves him. In under siege two he gets shot. It just doesn't affect him much though. In Out for justice, he never gets hurt and doesn't even break a sweat during any fight. But initially, his first movies, he got beat to shit a few times. But like he told David Goyer, he felt his audience didn't like seeing him hurt.
@@JohnDoeEagle1 Yeah, they are just saying words with conviction, but no substance.
Important thing to point out about the "bite" moment... it's very subtle, but important... Seagal actually cranks Tommy's knife holding wrist FIRST before he bites the knife. In other words, it's Seagal's Aiki Budo wrist lock that makes Tommy Lee loosen the knife grip, and THEN he bites the knife away, gouges Tommy's eyes, and head stabs him.
min 4:36 shows that he just holds him on the sleeve, it doesn't look like he's even touching his wrist. Unless it's only with the thumb, which we can't see. Doesn't seem likely...
One of the best knife fights ever committed to celluloid. Seagal is a legend.
I'm from Glasgow, glad to see our smile is infectious......well Steven seems to be immune but still! This is fun!
@Mark Morrissey did the Calton boys give it the name "Glasgow smile"? Always heard mixed stories about that
I loved these movies, Tommy is great and Seagal too.
That looked like a Gerber mark II, I had one when I was in the Marines. I used to wet a towel and roll it up as tight as I could get it then make money betting guys I could stab my knife deeper than they could theirs, the Gerber was so sharp with such a fine point you could just push it all the way through. Point being (get it), that leather jacket wouldn't slow that knife down.
I loved it too when I was 16, every BS martial arts movie (and some actually good ones, but I did not discern).
Nice. One factoid was overlooked. Steven Seagal is 6' 5" he towers over Tommy Lee Jones with long arms to boot. Tommy Lee Jones is only 6 ft. almost half a foot shorter than Seagal.
Since TLJ is 6ft tall he's tall enough to fight big guys like SS.....a 4 or 5 inches height difference is not crucial in a fight
@@yusufgaridi9523 You do not understand fighting if you believe that. Nothing at all.
I love these videos that break down movie scenes, especially when it comes from people who know what they're doing. Hope to see more!
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Need a video on the movie 'The Hunted' with Benicio Del Toro and Tommy Lee Jones.
We give what our subscribes want. Here is our breakdown of The Hunted: ruclips.net/video/UxfkSrOq1BY/видео.html
There was a point in my life where I thought Steven Seagal was the best martial arts actor out there. That was before I knew much of anything. Under Siege was one of the only films I really knew and it was before I had any formal training. Man... looking back, I was an idiot.
Reinforce with the thumb! I learned the hard way and ended up cutting all the nerves and tendons in my pinky.
What I've learned: All blade arts are about angles and angle control. Longsword, elizibithian rapier, fencing(foil and epee, I have no experience with saber) and knives. Cool.
TLJ : I m unable to smiley slice Seagal's mouth
Heath Ledger : Hold my beer
I completely agree with the points you a making is this breakdown.
But from a purely cinematic point of view it is totally badass and savage the move where he bits the knife.
It is Very hard to please everyone in this business.
I try my best as a martial artist and stuntperformer to do legit moves and at the same time do things that only would work in a movie.
And I respect both.
Love MMA as Much as I love Kung fu movies.
I think that you didn't understand this fight scene correctly. When Steven Seagal cuts Tommy Lee Jone's wrist, it's not Jone's right hand which he's using to hold a knife. It looked to me like Steven Seagal actually cuts the wrist of Tommy Lee Jone's empty left arm. Steven Seagal who's holding his knife in his right hand just simply horizontally slashed Tommy Lee Jone's left wrist because his empty left arm/hand was flailing around. I think you got confused because your reenactment is wrong, you have Seagal on the left side and Jones on the right side. In the fight scene, it's actually the complete opposite with Jones on the left side and Seagal on the right side. I just wanted to point that out and give a little bit of constructive criticism. By the way, I just discovered your RUclips channel and it's quite amazing!!!! I'm now a subscriber, love your content!!!!
I think they missed it becuase it was really messy and super “cutty”
@@TheMetaB I don't know any martial arts at all, but I this immediately.
Sorry to say, but it's actually very obvious in the scene, especially given these guys were pausing to study. I couldn't get past that just started laughing, knife experts? Okay, sure.
I really like and enjoy your scenic break downs guys it really makes sense
If someone can perform that knife biting skill in a real fight ill be truly amazed its like David blain magic
Also, kudos to your channel for it's excellent breakdowns and realistic techniques. You do the Filipino Martial Arts honor.
Under siege 2 knife fight where Steven Seagal used a chefs knife is another scene to look at.
Haha that was the sickest blade fight ever in the 90s in my book😄😆
You kno i never understand why movies with martial artist fight scenes arent never realstic
It's mostly due to film schedule and to keep the narrative of the scene moving forward. A real fight probably ends much faster.
Real martial techniques dont look flashy but the acrobatics and choreography puts butts in seats....the best fight scene i ever saw was the alley scene in the movie they live...
I think it's how Seagal is catching him open and not mutual. Yes, You need to break down the knife fighting in the movie Hunted and probably the James Bond vs knife scene in Quantum of Solace, and Golden Eye
Here is our breakdown of The Hunted: ruclips.net/video/UxfkSrOq1BY/видео.html
@@ScenicFights ok cool, I hope to see how you break down the Quantum of Solace hotel knife fight scene. As for Goldeneye, it wasn't a knife but a wooden rod.
Thank you good sir for posting this great video. Knife fighting and defense is serious , and deadly business. This writer appreciates how you broke this scene down into a logical explanation.
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I lol every time I see Segal biting the knife.
You should review ‘The Hunted” Tommy Lee jones and Benicio Del torro. I believe they use a style of Kali not sure which!
You are correct! Sayoc Kali. Here is our breakdown: ruclips.net/video/UxfkSrOq1BY/видео.html
@@ScenicFights wow have not heard of that one. I am a fan of Pikiti tirsia Kali.
i like how the “safey glove” are lacrosse gloves lmao
lmao! It was last minute, but still does an adequate job!
@@ScenicFights hey, Bruce used Kendo gear for fully striking. Use what's essential lol
Just started watching these guys. You’re great. Really good stuff. Keep doing what you doing!!
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Fast forward today Steven Seagal is perfecting the stabbing away on some serious brisket pork loin from a sitting position mostly few times a day.
A true master chef
I never realized how ridiculous biting the knife was until I watched this breakdown. Can't stop me from laughing. Whoever thought of biting that knife must have been high. :p
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Though as someone who has done some blade smithing and is generally a fan of edged weapons (though more for the historical significance and craftsmanship than anything) - I am not sure if I agree with your evaluation of the two different knives. I was under the impression that the cross section of a dagger was significantly stronger than that of a kitchen knife when it comes to stabbing and penetration (both due to blade geometry and the thickness of the blade stock). If I am mistaken, could someone please clarify?
I just rewatched Undersiege for the first time in a long while and after seeing Seagal biting the knife, I had to find like minded ppl like myself who thought that was the most outrageous bs ever lol..... not just the biting of the knife but also that Jones' character had absolutely NO REASON, to let go of the knife like he did
Have you ever had your knife bitten? It hurts as hell.
Very good! The movie is fun, for sure. But real Martial Arts are a way to set ourselves free from illusions. Your interpretations are evidence of it. Great video!
Also the amazing thing the your niche is you have endless content to pull from for inspiration.
We love doing this so much. Welcome to the channel. Is there any fight scene you'd like to see us breakdown?
@@ScenicFights I was wondering if you guys breakdown fight scenes from videogames I'd like to see some metal gear solid franchise cqc stuff especially from metal gear solid 3 snake eater. Specifically the cqc combat between naked snake and the boss. Also the knife fight from resident evil 4 between Jack Krauser and Leon Kennedy. However I also think the early 2000 punisher movie or the Netflix series has a lot of good cqc and knife scenes you guys could cover. Much love.
You are so Right and I too when I saw the movie said the same thing being that I teach Pekiti Tirsia
Nice to meet another fellow Pekiti-Tirsia instructor!
The man from nowhere
The raid 2
Knife fights
You guys definitely have to do
The Hunted starring Tommy Lee Jones.
Here you go: ruclips.net/video/UxfkSrOq1BY/видео.html
Always been curious about this - thanks!
I remember first seeing this movie when it came out. I know nothing about knife fighting, but I knew enough to know you don’t ever bite a knife blade for any reason. I remember actually laughing out loud in the theater when he bit that knife. I guess the director thought it would look tough, but it just looked stupid and foolish. I can’t imagine what coordinator thought that would make the fight look better?
I have a feeling with Segal's ego, he did his own coordinating.
Commonsense would tell you not to bite any knife lol
Yes please. The Hunted and Capt America Winter Soldier are cool, cinematic scenes. My vote for best realistic knife fight scene is: Coriolanus with Fiennes and Butler. 🤙🏼
Its Steven Seagal he can do anything he wants bite knives, catch bullets with his bare hands kick a in coming tomahawk missile and stop it from detonating. Amazing actor.
You would think that Steven Segal, was a special force trained would know this, 😂😂
Love these breakdowns! Keep up the great work guys!
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Definitely gonna have to subscribe. I'm really intent on finding good material to guide and direct me on properly training with karambit techniques.
Thank u ' for breaking it down and keeping it realistic excellent job.
A lot of folks are saying do the fight scene from The Hunted, and I agree. But what about the one in Eastern Promises?
Oh fuck yes! That was brutal.
Several impressive sword duels between Keith Carradine and Harvey Keitel in Ridley Scott's directorial debut, The Duelists. I am aware they used some sort of battery connection to give the appearance of sparks when the blades clash, but I'm curious about the actual moves. Thx.
Just discovered this channel, very cool! New sub
Dr Brown made a good point. Leon vs Kraus from the game Resident evil 4 is awesome haha.
Great video.. Have you made a break down vid of or seen the knife fight between Lou Diamond Phillips (Chavez) and Christian Slater (Arkansas Dave) in the 1990s Young Guns 2?
Please do a breakdown of The Hunted? It also stars Tommy Lee Jones, two big knife fights.
Now THAT was a knife fight!!!
Dang lol. Beat me to it. I just suggested that!
That's a great movie 👍
@Cyrus Wexler Seagal is well versed in Kali and Escrima (despite the bite move for the movie). He's been training knife fighting for years. Dude is a well versed marksman too.
You guys have done great reviews of modern fight scenes where the fighting is technically correct and older fight scenes (like this one) that were pretty technically wrong.
Do you think that making a fight scene more technically correct goes a long way towards making it more exciting or is that more a matter of the acting and how it is shot?
steven segal doesn't really know how to fight let alone use a knife . So of course this doesn't make any sense. But the way the edited makes him look good in the movie so that's enough for him. But with that being said I;m a fan of all of his movies LOL
Look we enjoy his films too. It's all good!
Steven segal is trained in aikido which is a non violent non attack style. Its all reactionary defense. Makes sense he wouldnt know how to use a knife well
@@PromethiaSHADOW "non violent non attack style" - a fake dance that does not work in the street. Combat cannot be "non-attack" - if you don't have a threat against your opponent, you cannot keep him at range, he will just come immediately next to you and strangle you or cut you open. From certain distance, attacks become too quick to react to in time, therefore you must stop your opponent with a threat of your own - if you don't have it, he will just advance and kill you. That's why stuff like "unarmed vs. knife" does not really work.
You MUST do The Hunted. They NAILED the knife fights.
It's just another round of Hollywood waving. Experienced knife fights do not lead with the knife precisely for the reasons in the first moment - you don't offer your weapon hand as a target. Left foot forward, left hand forward (preferably wrapped in clothes - coat, poncho, blanket) and first they try to create an opportunity, and stab you only when the hit is sure or probable. As someone said "there is no such thing as a knife fight". The knife is too short to provide any sort of defense, the confrontation ends the moment one side disables the other, usually by stabbing something critical.
I've had extensive hand to hand training in my younger years and my best weapon is my head because my brains are in it and my head tells me to do everything to not have to engage and get away to the high ground and try to get the drop on my attacker. Once you are in the fight your adrenaline controls you and the panic fight or flight response comes in. I was in one hand to hand knife fight and I won, but I sustained a good stab just below my belly button and some hand and forearm lacerations. In the end my combat knife isn't what helped me win the fight. It was me overpowering the suspect and disarming him. I'd say the knife in my hand didn't help me at all.
The cut to the wrist was to the non-knife hand. You can see T.L.J's open palm when the cut takes place.
Why jump the shark, when you can bite the knife!
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A really good series of informational videos
I'm glad you enjoyed Tony, def stay tuned for more.
Please breakdown the fight scene in Quantum of Solace where the guy comes at Daniel Craig from a closet with a knife and gets killed with broken glass.
Thanks, outstanding video.
I need the end knife throwing scene analyzed in Expendables lol!
Please could you review some of the scenes from the hunted? There’s a short knife exchange, a brilliant ending fight and also some training scenes where they instruct recruits in how to kill with a knife. Would love to see you review any of those scenes.
Awesome video guys! Please do the breakdown of the knife fights in “The Hunted” starring Tommy Lee Jones and Benicio del Toro.
Of course, we can't forget Tommy Lee Jones amazing knife scene. Here is our breakdown: ruclips.net/video/UxfkSrOq1BY/видео.html
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Do Eastern Promises. That movie owns. If you can get past the nekkid balls.
Very good, Mr. Lo! Kali!
Thanks Cis Cis! If you haven't yet, check out his other #fightscenebreakdown episodes including John Wick! ruclips.net/video/xHrqHulxK7c/видео.html
like it , safety first with the glasses
i remember seeing this scene and thinking, aren't they just kind of throwing their arms around haphazardly? there seems no reason to it.
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This is what happens when the entirety of your fight choreography is based on the pride of your lead.
The woman who choreographed this fight said she had this beautiful scene planned out, movement by movement, to perfection. Then, the reality of Hollywood set in... The beginning of the fight still looks like her original plan but then it goes way off the rails.
How about the other knife movie with Tommy Lee Jones and Benicio Del Toro : Hunted?
Here is the breakdown for you: ruclips.net/video/UxfkSrOq1BY/видео.html
Biting a knife like that in real life would have some extremely painful and horrific consequences. I don't even wanna think about what it would do to person's mouth. Fuckin ouch!
In the original version Steven Seagal bit the knife in half, chewed it up and spit the pieces in Tommy Lee Jones' eyes then stabbed him in the head, but they took it out because it was too real.
Sounds like something Chuck Norris would do.
I just saw the fight scene, in this Steven Segal does bites the knife but at the same time he also pokes Tommy Lee's right eye with his thumb, that's where he loses the grip, but I still don't understand even if u poke the eye, can one loose his grip ?
F rated, I agree 100%.
I think the knife cutting through the mouth whilst SG has it would be called a Chelsea Smile, but could also be called similar in Glasgow. Very good video btw 👍
Love your vids. Sooo rad.