JD Vance Wins Debate Against CNBC Anchor
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
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"Squawk Box host Joe Kernen knocked Trump running mate Senator JD Vance’s proposal to raise taxes on US companies shifting manufacturing and jobs to other countries, telling the Republican his pitch “sounds like industrial policy that the Democrats get criticized for.”
From the outset of Vance’s appearance on CNBC, Kernen said he wasn’t interested in a “post-mortem” of the ABC presidential debate but that he did want to did in on how the senator’s “economic beliefs” had “evolved”, citing his past policy stances against former President Donald Trump’s economic agenda."
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About a year ago I was looking up reactions to Donald trump winning in 2016. That is when I found you guys. The algorithm started showing me more videos of you guys. Started to watch and was like these guys are so leftist. The more I watched the more I started to agree with some of the points you guys made, things I didn’t hear anywhere else. As an independent I love how you guys are not bias. I’m glad cenk is somewhat optimistic for trump’s term. My parents are hard core republicans but now are talking about how the health care system is terrible. No matter what trump ends up doing I’m glad more people are hearing and agreeing with some populist views. Go TYT
It's funny, I'm totally conservative and a Trump Supporter and I disagree with a lot here. But first, Cenk is very charismatic and they both are critical thinkers and I appreciate that.
It's the whole reason I started watching them earlier this year. Whether or not I agree exactly, I very much appreciate that they are putting critical thought into their opinions and not just regurgitating rhetorical talking points.
As an independent from AZ, I’m so excited for this election to be over 😔
At this point, i think we all are.
Though, I have to say, I'm fairly confident Harris will win. And when she does, we're never going to hear the end of it from Trump.
If Trump wins then it won’t end, it will be Don Jr and Vance ….
Then it will be all about the 2028 election and how it will be the most important election of our life! This nightmare is not going to end
New to your channel and am enjoying every minute! Keep up the honest and accountable reporting - it’s so hard to come by these days, I appreciate it!
Excellent TYT. 10 out of 10.
Independent here. I will be voting for JD vance after the trump presidency because of of conversations like this.
I really appreciate how you were fair and balanced as well as knowledgeable when talking about both Democrats and Republicans in this video. That is extremely rare, unfortunately. Every other channel seems to completely support one side and disparage everything that the other side does, regardless of what it is. You just earned yourself a new subscriber! 🎉
>YEAH !! like fox news ....................lol
@@AzlynVaher 100!!
@@AzlynVaheryou must watch ABC News biggest joke network 10 times worse than Fox News and I don't like Fox News
This is TYT at its best, do more of THIS and less drama.
JD Vance is super smart!
lol I wouldn’t go that far he did basically say he just considered r*pe an inconvenience during an interview, a single good take doesn’t make him “super smart”
@@purplemuse320
He actually never said that 😂😂
@@CosmicalChrist he really did due I watched the interview, you can look it up or choose not to believe me but he did
@@purplemuse320
I did.
I need a personal subsidy. 😂
A little factoid that you might not know. In the name of globalism, both political parties designed a tax structure and regulatory framework that actively encouraged foreign investment in U.S. stocks and real estate. This shift has had profound consequences on wealth distribution in America. While the bottom 95% saw their share of stock and real estate ownership decline, the top 1% experienced exponential increases in value. Over the past few decades, your average take-home pay has decreased by over one-third. Meanwhile, during just the last four years (2020 to 2024), the total wealth of U.S. billionaires surged by nearly 88%, growing from $2.95 trillion to over $5.5 trillion. In 2023, U.S. companies paid a record $565 billion in dividends. Given that approximately 40% of U.S. corporate equities are owned by foreign investors, this translates to around $429,985 flowing overseas every minute via dividends paid to foreign-owned U.S. corporate equities.
Trump didn't say he will use targeted tarrifs , he is proposing a general tarrif for all imported consumer goods.
Exactly
Ana is stumping for tariffs after citing the research data from the Biden Administration that they didn't cause significant inflation though she mentions the reason why is because the market adapted by moving goods through other countries besides China. By imposing tariffs on all imported goods from everywhere Ana is essentially advocating for inflation as high as 20% because she's either ignorant or out of touch with actual American consumers. Or maybe a bit of both.
Thank you for the insight. I do think target tariffs are an interesting thought. Prehaps it will bring about even greater change in China's calculus when it comes to other countries like the US
Thank you!!
TYT is the best because they analyze clips like these. And finally someone talks about the USMCA, which was an incredible positive for America.
Except Trump's tariffs did not achieve this. He didn't not save manufacturing jobs when he was in office.
This agreeing with Cenk thing feels wierd.
You have been successfully conned
Now she is defending Vance❓🤔
And why not if Vance if correct?
He's right on this issue. Now... did he really believe it?
Is he right or not?
Please keep in mind that manufacturing jobs are not what they used to be. Most factories use robotics and don't need many people to be productive.
When the republicans are more left then dems i
Trump has really pushed Pubs to a more moderate view on many social issues
I can't believe this didn't come up more during the election, how Biden kept Trump's tariffs. I actually hadn't heard that on MSNBC. Maybe I just missed it.
Your watching the wrong news channel. They want you uninformed
We practice vulture capitalism, "disaster capitalism", and antisocialism in favor of corporations and the rich.
Isn’t it interesting how people have this belief that corporations can’t be successful if they pay a fair tax rate
Most American believe that trump had the best economy of all times, but TYT feels the necessity to make a video on how they agree with JD Vance. Nice work guys. Keep us educated.
Negative
Wrong! Who lied to you?
Vance will make a fine Vice President!
Vance is hateful and unprincipled to the core, but he is intelligent and knows how to explain nearly any issue to sound favorable to his programmed and paid position. Thank you both, Cenk and Ana, for being intelligent, nuanced, and HONEST with your independent coverage of these topics!
U know nothing about vance , go watch eric weinstein's interview with Chris Williams and he would tell you 😂
Yeah, the guy who went to Yale and has a wife and kids and goes to church every Sunday is totally unprincipled 🤡
I disagree. He does an absolutely terrible job at those things.
When he said. "My position has changed" instantly became one of my boys, because he admits when he has had growth within his views and left the inconsistency behind
Great video, TYT!
Boy JD Vance seems way more comfortable and normal when he's sitting up there talking shop with the likes of Joe Kernen versus rubbing elbows with regular people in a donut shop.
JD comes from literally the bottom, what are you talking about about?
Regardless of how horrible liberals think he is - if I have to have someone NEGOTIATE trade deals against other nations - I want Donald Trump. He's a tough SOB and will get us the best possible terms.
I can't speak to liberals that are a part of the Democratic party, but as a progressive, my problem with Trump is that he is not different than any other President. For over half a century now, it hasn't mattered what party was in the Oval, the house, the senate or judicial, the American workers have been knee capped and their lives have gotten worse with each passing administration, even after Trump's first term in office.
The delusion that the country is where it is solely because of Biden is idiotic. Trump shut down that beautiful economy supporters talk about. Had Trump won the second term, he would have been in the same boat Biden was in at the beginning of 2020. That economy wouldn't have magically appeared again.
Those checks they fawn about were only in their hands because the Democrats passed the resolution. The Republicans voted against it. Trump delayed those checks going out to make sure his signature was on them. He's a brilliant BS artist.
The parties are two sides of the same coin. They answer to their donors. Trump said as much on the campaign trail and shockingly, no one batted an eye. We live in an Oligarchy now and we are in the second gilded age on steroids at that. To fix it, one can't keep voting the better of two evils into office and expect a different result.
Trump is not the great savior everyone thinks he is. Obama wasn't either. All of it a delusion. They are running on a populist playbook and throwing it in the garbage the minute they hit the oval.
What the left doesn't get about Trump is everything is a negotiation. He takes an extreme position and the media flips a gasket and he's unpredictable, and it's all for position. He moves the overton window by taking a nutty position and then what would have seemed impossible suddenly is feasible. It is the art of the deal. It's just strategy.
That whole “don’t scroll away” thing makes me want to close the video…it’s so annoying
You stayed and wrote a comment. 😳
The rich + corporations should pay their fair share....which they currently DO NOT.
I hate tariffs. You people need to investigate the Chinese EV market, it's mind boggling. We are so far behind. We'll be buried without even knowing it.
Yes... corporations using slave labor in oppressive countries is awesome!!!! Bigger ceo bonuses are what makes America great!
Fkn weirdo
A lot of populist overlap on the right and left. I wish there was a way to join forces to vote out the establishment on both sides 🤝
.only if both sides had credibility. TRUMP HAS ZERO CREDS.
well how about you accept white nationalism then we can agree.
@bobby5678-ck2tc does white nationalism prevent corporate lobbyists from buying congressmen, senators, and presidents? Does it encourage manufacturing in the U.S. and collective bargaining?
@Yourdeadmeat69 it's okay, it doesn't have to be Trump. I want less lobbyists influence on elected officials, manufacturing in U.S. and collective barging.
It is imperative to bear in mind that re-industrialization for the sake of reducing foreign dependencies will also bring a trend toward domestic sourcing and processing raw materials (e.g., mining) and the imperative need for stringent environmental regulation with enforcement powers. All well and good that batteries are produced here so long as watersheds are not contaminated with light and heavy metals, for instance.
Strange. We’re debating tariffs when democracy is on the line. How about we debate tariffs after our democracy is secured?
America is republic. I wish it was a democracy.
@@KenVic-m3r only one way to get closer. Vote her in and then let our voices reign. On God
@@KenVic-m3r Its a democratic republic. Stop repeating nonsense. It will be a fascist republic if tRump has his way.
I dont know, tarriffs may have not caused inflation but it still raises retails. Speaking as a worker for a large retailer. A few years ago they raised tarriffs, vendors raised costs, we raised retails. 🤷
Yes those are the facts
Great fiery piece!
Tariffs are a tax on Americans unless your plan is to put tariffs on products that are also produce domestically and you want to make the foreign made products more expensive and less desirable than their domestic competitor. Otherwise, the foreign manufacturer just tacks on the cost of the tariffs onto their products price to the consumer and we all pay for the tariffs, not the manufacturer.
Ana needs to be able to seperate what right wingers say and right wingers do...., she already does it with democrats... But every time she promotes JD Vance it's always because of his words. And frankly I'm tierd of her double standard... Go make money on fox news I'm sure that this grift will appeal to fox viewrs
Right, why does she suddenly believe what they say she knows they lie and have been lying forever how is she suddenly this naive?
@@Kokomole she turned hating Democrats her main focus.... Sad thing is it doesn't matter what her politics are if all she ever does is criticize the left.
@@Kalandrian I think she’s always criticised Dems, they all have and they have also criticised republicans they do both on here. What’s different is her supporting republicans, and weirdly admiring them, that’s new.
@@Kokomole look I'm no fan of the Democrats but I can clearly see a difference between the Democrats and Republicans.and she will weirdly defend Republican talking points while railing on Dems for the same things. About a year ago she said she was leaving the left, recently she said she wasn't a leftist. And most of her attacks are leveled at Dems and protecting republicans the effect is you are projecting support for republicans... If she was defending voters that would be one thing but she is protecting politicians that's not someone who has my best interests at heart. Of course TYT has always gone after Democrats, but it so out of balance with Ana anymore.. defending JD Vance? Defending Trump because Project 2025 wasn't written by his own hand.... That's a bridge too far in my book.
@@Kalandrian I think it's a weird phase of hers rn. She said recently she doesn't know her political stance, mainly because of left extremists, which..really, you're feeling wary due to extremists? Wait it out ig.
Sorry Czenk, but you're wrong brother. I am an Economics Student from India and I can tell you why you're wrong.
Can you tell him why he’s wrong instead of just saying it lol
That's another lie Vance said, Trump doesn't think, he just rants and raves.
I think if trump wins , vance would be running the country for 4 years as donny has lost his mind 😂😂
Strange times huh 😅😅😅
Tariffs on high tech items are a quite a bit different than tariffs on sneakers and car parts and 99% of whats sold at Walmart when it comes to working Americans wallets.
Thank you Cenk! I love your educated, fair and balanced commentary on international political and economic policy. Your years of education and background on both business and legal matters is insightful, interesting and informative. You always give me new perspective, reasonable and critical thoughts and views based on the truth. I come away from the show often learning something new and you relay it in a very relatable easy way to understand so I greatly appreciate that in your coverage. Been a member for a long time and stay tuned regularly. Thanks for the last twenty years plus!
Somebody’s lying 🤣🤣
All politicians just say words. They don't show you actions when they say these words. All you have to go on is their history of action, be it for or against the things they say. Republicans, almost to the entirety of the group, have failed to do anything sensible related to what they say they will do. Democrats fail to do this too, but to a lesser degree, as they at least often put forth legislation that sounds reasonable to what they said even if it fails to pass. So between two parties that aren't very reliable, one is notably better than the other. Like 1% success rate with Republicans vs 40% success rate with Democrats. Not great numbers, but certainly distinguishable.
Not for Anna. She fulls invests in the both sides ism and plays dumb for the Right whenever possible
The right hand slaps you silly and the left coddles, rinse and repeat. They are offense and defense for the same team, the overpowered minority 1%
"We want companies that're investing in America, hiring in America" Unless it's green energy, then we don't want investment in America or jobs for Americans
Tariffs generally not good for the economy. There can be an exception if in this case China was subsidising the cost of manufacturing, an argument can be made for tariffs. It can also be done in retaliation for tariffs imposed by china on imports, but this can lead to further escalation.
Bro is Anna republican
No she is smart, and not being brainwashed by the crazy leftist
lol right
no.
Tarrifs do not sound appealing to me I work in manufacturing and when the tarrifs hit i got laid off (first time since 2008), only silver lining was it happened before the pandemic layoffs so i was already in tight budget mode
Sigh. Tarrifs are taxes on voters. We SHOULD tax corporations differently... but we should be taxing the 'profits' and the 'owners'.
Speaking the real truth, but doing so will have the Corpos come after you
I feel like that is a very pro American worker position. That being said....I don't think Vance would actually do anything that would help American workers.
Poor Anna, why would you believe anything that JD Vance said you know what Trump wants to do? What does it matter what the vice president wants to do? Stop carrying the Republicans water like they might do something right.
Maybe because Trump did it?
@@shnlj5910 Trump did what lower taxes on companies this is about JD Vance saying he wants to raise taxes on corporations.
@jeffreyengland2960 In that case why did you make a vague comment? Taxes weren't the only subject here. Keeping jobs in the US was something Trump attempted to do through tariffs and punishing companies who shipped jobs offshore.
Trump wasn't all bad. I don't see anything wrong with lowering corporate tax rates what's important is to close the loopholes and deductions. That's something no one ever does. We can say 5% or 75% and the the effective tax rate stays the same, or zero, or even negative. Kamala. Trump, Biden...it doesn't matter. They answer to donors and PACS. I've been around to hear talk about corporate tax rates for almost 50yrs. It never really changes what they actually pay.
@@shnlj5910 bless your heart add your name to the national Trump supporter registry, please
@@shnlj5910 several other people didn’t think it was bad. It just takes a dumb Trump supporter to think it’s made to put their two cents in about how they’re gonna get beat out of whatever Trump lies to them about bless your heart.
TYT really needs a foreign policy expert. The issue with China isn’t really tariffs, it’s subsidies.
It's both
Actually.... taxing more on companies that only hire foreign labor, and sells to US because that is where the money is... just a rough thing about this corporate system
Good analysis, Chenk.
Oh, this is a chenk segment? Thx for letting me know so I can skip it before I get invested
We used to make all our own stuff and it was the best in the world. Now we live in a throwaway society.
Wait! Is Anna pro Trump now?
Of course not. They forget Elon Musk has Chinese loans and factories in China. He's also been invited by the Chinese lawmakers more than once.
Always have been
Would you kill your mother if Trump told you not to?
Most of the Chinese factory jobs are going to be replaced by AI and robotics within the next decade. Worrying about bringing those jobs back is kind of insane.
Was surprised to hear Cenk's view that he is more of a free-trade guy. Pleasantly so, since he articulated the nuance of that and the difficulties and challenges. Also appreciate the balanced view of the facts on tariffs and the similarities in the previous Trump administration and the Biden administration.
Kernan looking at his holdings
it's crazy how tyt has actually started to adopt common sense
They are trying to stay relevant and save their careers.
@@danieldenton5721
Don’t be smug about bro, the more liberals we could convert the better, that means more conservatives votes
@@AJxxxxxxxx Good comment. I agree here. As a long time viewer of TYT, this was a gradual organic shift, and one I have witnessed and appreciated as an Independent.
Kissing the ring of a felon is not common sense.
trading with other countries for things should be pretty much entirely optional. it's gotten to the point where America is reliant on other nations and that should scare more people than it does
GE made 7 Billion and paid 0 tax and got 423 million rebate.
They aren’t even paying their minimum rate.
I actually said this when DT gave all of them tax breaks, only give breaks to those who manufacture here.
Anna praising another Republican. What a shocker. He doesn't mean anything he says. Anna is the next Dave Ruben.
I wish people discussed it with the same nuance he did that it isn’t all or nothing with these policies.
Tariffs are complex and nuanced. It's depressing that people don't pay more attention.
A simple rundown of trumps steel tariffs is a good example. The steel tax increased the price of steel in the US by 15% - that's good for the steel industry, because it was surviving by the skin of it's teeth. It's not great for US manufacturers making products with high steel content (like cars etc...) because their goods become less competitive and imports rise. So a better approach would be to place tariffs on imported finished goods with high steel content - except that a president can't do that, because it's not a national security issue.
i dunno i would think increased competition would benefit consumers. Some of those Chinese minivans are 🔥. Allowing competition might cause US companies to do better
They look good cosmetically but are trash
Military is not allowed to use foreign chips on weapons cause they could be tampered with, they have to come from US chip manufacturers
And yet
automation is the aim for manufacturing
But what would happen if they removed the Tariffs? At a point where the economy was o. The verge of collapse
Friendshoring is the way
You can't afford it.
That's the problem. EVERYTHING you buy in the store is there at a price you can afford because somewhere down the chain there's a guy working for 2 dollars a day. (Or its subsidized)
Why does Taiwan produce all the chips for the US? You think Google and Apple can't make their own factories?
We need Taiwan to make those chips with Taiwanese salaries.
You cannot have a chain of 10 people getting paid 15 dollars an hour, and not have the final product cost way more than most people can afford. We cannot afford western salaries for our production chains.
You know what a serf is? It means a poor farmer, from like medieval times.
A serf would have, maybe one suit, one jacket, a small house, a set of furniture, one acre of land, and maybe a cow or two. That was a poverty.
Can you afford hand crafted furniture? A tailor made suit? Two cows? A HOUSE?
We are DIRT poor, being cheap sold plastic junk to convince is we are better off than we used to be. It's a house of cards.
I do not believe in free trade. Free markes yes. If you want to service a market you have to produce goods and services in that market. Import export are goods and or services that can't be produced in that market. This would eliminate cheap labor market incentives for companies and put back competition in the market served. Driving down cost in that market.
Before the introduction of income tax, the US federal government was funded almost entirely through tariffs
@@donaldthustra_2997 income taxes=taxed at income levels
tariffs=tax on the poor
America! The most anti-consumer consumer based economy in the whole world baby! I say let it fail
Vance: bda bda bda bda that's all folks 🦆
The tariffs are like having to pay a membership fee to sell your products in the US if you pass the tariffs down to the consumers, the consumers will purchase American made products or product offered for cheaper
Oh gosh Anna 😍 is attracted to Vance
Omg the grift
Lol if you think this a grift, you might need to pay more attention to the words being said. You want to be lied to, obviously.
Why don't you pay my share of tariffs if you think they are such a good idea Ana? I can't afford products as it is.
Certainly an important topic worthy of nuanced discussion, and Cenk has rather good points. Though I would like to see a panel that includes an actual economist or two, all the same. Cheers!
Have y’all seen the Trump ads with Ana in it??? Bout time she got some recognition lol
Thank You "Jake" !!!
The countdown clock to Ana pulling a Dave Rubin and joining FOX news is now at five minutes to midnight. Tired of the excitement she shows for all things Trump lately.
LOL.... quit your pathetic whining you sad little pissant.
If you're tired of Ana then KICK ROCKS and goes watch " The Majority Report" or "The Vanguard".
15% corporate tax = 0% corporate taxes with all the writeoffs
Comparative advantage is what is the challenge for western capitalism. Look it up. It's in the wealth of nations by Adam Smith the father of capitalism.
He believed in free trade.
I don’t care what’s good for the world. I care what’s good for America.
I think I might be getting sleep deprived eventhough its only 10 11ish
I've tried Wegovy and Zepbound and I had massive GI problems because of it. My stomach would be hurting so badly that I couldn't stand up. And not like cramps, it was like stinging pain in my stomach
Targeted Tariffs can protect US interests ... but simply putting a 20% Tariff on EVERYTHING is a Trump Sales Tax.
Ana is cooked bro. We are losing her to the right.
@@mrcardenas400 Either that or she's just a ditz
I don't think so
Anna we know all we need to know about vance....FLIP FLOPPING SPINELESS HUMAN BEING. 😳
lol just because she doesn't blindly follow theft doesn't mean she is spinless, the establishment left has thing they need to improve on, to earn swing votes
The decussion is in an article labeled How Washington Learned to Stop Worrying and Embrace Protectionism.
speaking from both sides of your mouth
One of the big differences between the US and Chinese companies is US companies pay a lot for healthcare for their employees. The Chinese government pays for Chinese employees healthcare. That makes it hard for US companies to compete. We need universal health care, Medicare for all in the US and we wouldn't need tarriffs.
I would like to correct something. Chinese does not pay health care for every citizen for example there are those in the rural economy that do not have healthcare because they move so often they do not have a permanent place of address.
@@clipbitlocker the Chinese employees who work for Chinese auto makers have their healthcare paid for by the Chinese government
Whatever happens the politicians will ensure their corporate donors are taken care of and nothing will change for us normal folk. That’s the way it’s always been and the way it always will be.
That's how is ment to be. And is working great. People divided on half, fighting each other while leaders and corporations enjoying in money.
Question for JD why are you the VP candidate for someone you think is like Hitler?
He has explained his reasons for changing his opinion of Trump many times - you can find out what he's said with a simple Google search. That's more than anyone can say for Kamala, who hasn't explained the reasoning behind a single one of her policy flip-flops.
@@jasonmolgren-vn9od are you taking the piss? He said Trump was like HITLER!
The Chinese government subsidizes certain industries with the goal to destroy those industries in other countries so yes you do have to put tariffs on certain things.
Can anyone imagine Kamala discussing a topic like tariffs intelligently? Be honest.
Yes.
can you imagine having the courage to stand behind your beliefs? Don't be a "dog whistle" coward, take the white hood off and stand behind your beliefs. If you need to hide your views... you need new views. And you wonder why you are getting "replaced". LMFAO! #RedneckProblems
@@zuzanazuscinova5209 do you know how tarrifs work? I don't think so ..putinette
….name me one thing Trump speaks about intelligently. With details and nuance.
@@shuatastic Illegal immigration.