Let’s not overlook that this is the most basic premise of law enforcement. This isn’t some obscure law-this is Day 1, Hour 1 of the academy. To be a bricklayer, you should at least know what a brick is. To be a plumber, one should know what water is. To be a cop, you only have to know what a lobotomy is.
Police are meant to enforce thousands of laws. What is funny is that citizens are meant to follow hundreds of thousands of laws which we are not taught during our 12+ years. Now people are complaining about police enforcing some laws instead of complaining about the amount of laws and selective enforcement. If we could get police to enforce every law on the books, the peasants would learn fast that they know nothing about the law and want to reduce the amount of laws.
@StonegoalThe reduction in laws will never happen. It is highly expensive and a burden on the courts. But the bigger reason is because laws serve the government. They bring revenue via fines, court costs, admin, oversight, testing, supervision, review, permitting, inspection, review, and on.
@peopleplacesthings5977 "The reduction in laws will never happen." True which should make us all cynical of positive change. "It is highly expensive and a burden on the courts." Expensive is not a term you use with government. No "But the bigger reason is because laws serve the government." No. Laws limit government power, if they are always enforced. "They bring revenue via fines, court costs, admin, oversight, testing, supervision, review, permitting, inspection, review, and on." Goverment uses taxes, subsidies and fees to control habits of the population. Modern government run on fiat money they print every year.
If you study something for 10-20 years, than perhaps you shouldn’t be a doctor. If you need Google as your best friend, that is. I would like to hear; we did our best to save you instead; we TRIED our best to save you with Google AI. Like wtf man? What world do you live in?
@ZehGfatherI don't think doctors should be using Google as there only source, but I do understand when a doctor, on their own time, googles something because when you become a doctor, you are taking in so much information, I can see a doctor forgetting a part of a study then googling it just to make sure of something
@ZehGfather No singular person can memorize all that information and not forget a thing or two every now and then, searching things up is common in the medical field. Doctors aren't robots. this is common knowledge.
Not sure if i understood it correctly. maybe it isnt in the rules but he still gived him the finger, and cursed at him for no reason. remember police officers are also just humans.
@Sinobadino If it's not a crime then the cops have no legal right to detain you. If it hurt their feelings, they have to deal with it just like every other human. They don't legally get to use police powers to intimidate you, although they illegally do it all the time.
@jjgaming9381he was still a dickhead, and he treated him like he was *another of those bad policemen* and just gave him the finger. and yes the policeman didnt help the situation. but again, what did the kid really think would happen?
They should be locked on for the entire shift and no mute button. Maybe a pause button for restroom use, but the cop should state....going on pause for restroom and the bathroom and camera should have a sensor to show entrance and exit with time stamp.
@tonelda5057bruh that’s a trade I’ll do 100% every time. You’re saying that cops will commit crimes to me so that gives me the right to sue, thus giving me the ULTIMATE INFINITE MONEY GLITCH. Sir, your comment backfired
ah cops can't really get fired, they'll just claim they feared for their life and its like the incident never happened, they can carry on with their jobs without punishment
The moment the cops did not provide Jeff with access to his lawyer, was the same moment they made every bit of that interrogation completely inadmissible in court.
Dude the first law student kid had a grin so big on his face that it almost seems like he only decided to study law to then tell off underqualified cops. I am in full approvement of that amount of spite.
He was goading them along because he knew they would mess up. Who needs a scholarship when the police are about to pay his tuition? Yu-gi-oh level trap cards.
i think it's sad why are those morons making the life of people who risk theirs to ensure protecting the citizens so hard and why are all the other students celebrating it wtf is wrong with this country
@henrymoutarde605Oh yeah, they're going to save us from underage drinkers... these are grown ass adults in college, in one of the FEW countries on the planet where drinking at 18 is illegal. 😂 this is a massive waste of resources and just goes to show how overfunded and wasteful our police force is that they can send a whole team of people to interview a grown ass man about alcohol.
@henrymoutarde605I guarantee the one like on your comment was you liking it yourself. Please don't share your bad ideas on the internet when you don't know what you're talking about.
that cop getting mad over a CHILD flipping him off is so childish. cant believe im supposed to trust these grown ass men who act like children with my life.
You're actually not supposed to trust them, at all. Law enforcement officials are only in existence to protect the assets and property of the city and state they're in. Your money is their property.
@csfellz The ones that speak out do their job the correct way and follow the law. Say the Miranda rights. Allow the person to ask for an attorney. They are rare but they exist.
its hard tho becuase can also be legit too like when ambulance adn cops took out my dead mom (killed by the system) they turned the cams off for "respect" while the body was extracted.
@PuckFan738 The only good cops are the ones that quit after they see all the corruption in the system. I cant consider anyone apart of that system good, unless they are new, and genuinely don't know how bad the "justice" system is.
Idk... maybe the cop was thinking about the guys teeth? That stuff gets into your teeth and takes forever to get out. Now if it had a been a Milky Way.... the cop should be arrested. Milky Ways are delicious and arguably good for you.
The real reason PIGS want your ID (beyond running your information for warrants), is to put an asterisk next to your name in the NCIC database as "Hostile To Law Enforcement". It's a real thing and it's used against countless unsuspecting Americans everyday. The UNITED STATES OF AMERIKA is a bonafide police state. “Sic semper evello mortem tyrannis.”
There is absolutely no way that notebook would fly in court. The pages must be numbered and removing a page is difficult. I did basic security guarding and we were required to have a proper police-grade notepad. I would have been written up for what that cop is using.
it’s not a threat, it’s called self defense. same reason why many countries have armies, not only to attack or invade other countries but to defend against one lest they be defenseless
If a court case can be seen as a threat, then there is something seriously wrong with the court system. Court case should be functionnaly synonymous with 'justice'. Who can you threat with justice? A criminal. To a lawful citizen, justice is essential, not harmful.
@Expie3409and completely deniable.. win! Fraud or wasting police time or summing, for sure, I dunno, I'm a dumbaß, but plausible deniability is a b****
cedomadaras8863 phone logs..? calling the police without plausible reason is illegal and a waste of their time, time they could be using saving lives or preventing tragedies. Especially if the police were called for a joke, which can result in jail time and a significant fine.
Qualified Immunity needs to be revoked at the Federal level. It's the only way to hold these cops accountable. Otherwise the tax payer ends up footing the bill for these civil rights lawsuits.
The only time cops have to stop asking questions is after they utter the words you are under arrest. Even after they say you are under arrest they can still ask you questions they just cannot use what they learn against you in court.
unfortunately courts have decided that saying "I need a lawyer" is not a request for a lawyer. You have to be explicitly clear that you want to speak to a lawyer immediately and that you will not speak to them further without a lawyer present. It's bullshit that a non-legal expert has to be so legally specific with their wording but that's the state of US justice right now.
That was stupid immaturity because that actually a crime, they just outsmarted some cops & probably got away with being underage bring alcohol into the dorm . Unlike the kid on the side of the road with no one around wee could hear them all the way down the hall... Disturbing the Peace Disturbing the peace, also known as breach of the peace, is a criminal offense that occurs when a person engages in some form of unruly public behavior, such as fighting or causing unreasonable noise. When a person’s words or conduct jeopardizes another person’s right to peace and tranquility, that person may be charged with disturbing the peace. To avoid bringing every offensive conduct into the criminal justice system, lawmakers need to review disturbing the peace laws to make sure they are not overly vague or prohibit lawful conduct. Likewise, law enforcement officers need to exercise proper restraint and discretion to avoid accusations that such charges target certain populations. No matter how minor criminal charges seem, someone accused of disturbing the peace has the right to legal counsel. What Constitutes Disturbing the Peace? States & local communities enact laws that make it a crime to create a public disturbance or commotion. Sometimes, these crimes may be called disorderly conduct. These laws vary from state to state, so it makes sense to review the elements of the crime. Disturbing the peace laws typically prohibit: Fighting or challenging someone to fight in a public place; Using offensive language or "fighting words" in a public place that are likely to incite an immediate violent reaction; Shouting in a public space intending to incite violence or unlawful activity; Bullying a student on or near school grounds; Knocking loudly on hotel doors of sleeping guests with the purpose of annoying them; Holding an unlawful public assembly; Shouting profanities, offensive words, or slurs out of a car window in front of a person’s home over an extended period of time; Allowing excessive dog barking in a residential area; and Intentionally playing loud music during the night that continues, even after a fair warning. In most states, the person’s conduct must be on purpose (willful) or with bad intent (malicious). It is not enough that a person engages in conduct that merely annoys, harasses, or embarrasses someone else. If fighting is at issue, it must be unlawful and not in self-defense or the defense of others. To determine guilt, consider include the following: Location or place Time Words used Actions taken The persons involved (for example, a police officer, teacher, student, relative, or passerby) Situations that may lead to a disturbing the peace charge are quite varied. Examples might include getting into a physical fight over a parking space or playing loud music to intentionally annoy and disturb your neighbors. Crimes against the public peace may appear to be similar at times, yet they have distinct elements. For example, while public intoxication may seem to prohibit disturbances as well, it must also include an element of voluntary intoxication.
Jeff rocks. Also, it’s so funny that the cop is trying to guilt Jeff into putting himself into prison in exchange for a can of soda. “We helped you out” lmfao
"I just came here for a Coke" Seriously imagine getting arrested but seeing an opportuniy for a nice beverage and deciding it was all worth it just for that 😂
he has some insecurity issues tbh, look at him and why give finger to cop when they did nothing wrong? kid didnt have love in childhood imo. most ppl who try to act tough have massive mental issues thats why they act tough and hate, hope he seeks therapy
ya no kidding, if they searched every room in that dorm i bet almost all had alcohol, or at very least evidence of it being consumed recently. Except 1 room. The room of person who ratted him out.
America: A country where the kids regularly murder each other in school, but god forbid they have a beer, someone call cops, this kid is out here enjoying himself. That's not what America is about, apparently.
Why is it okay to insult anyone, including cops, its an offense where i live just not in America for some reason and it looks like its being abused by people like this guy...
@matissozols8498 It's freedom of speech. Being able to speak your mind freely, so long as you're not calling for violence against someone or something, is one of our core values here in the USA. If you can't flip a cop the finger, then next thing you know you can't say your elected official is doing something wrong, and if you can't call out corruption, that's the #1 way to get MORE corruption.
@kedolan4992 haven't seen it play out like that, because the law applies to everyone not just select people like police or politicians, but as long as you are satisfied with the fact that anyone can freely and purposely offend you, I guess that's just something I find unacceptable behavior.
@matissozols8498 "I haven't seen it play out like that". Read a history book... Pick one. Any one. "Offense" is an emotion/feeling. I find it ridiculous you think YOU, get to dictate what's "right or wrong" based off what offends YOU. Hence one of the biggest REASONS for the right to freedom of speech. Your compelled speech IS the problem. There's literally people being locked up for saying an election was fraudulent. There's people being locked up for saying nasty things about their gov't. That's the results of your "acceptable behavior". Not to mention. If you're that easily offended by some random person, you'll most likely never interact with again. You have larger personal issues to deal with first. Spoiler alert. There's billions of people in the world. They don't care what offends you. It's irrelevant.
@matissozols8498 The problem is not everyone finds the same things offensive. What if you're joking around with some friends, but someone on the street near you hears it, and gets offended? Should you then be arrested? Even in the best case scenario where "everyone" decides "this is what we find offensive", that just means that you've now decided that anyone who doesn't fit in the "normal" mold, is now committing crimes simply for being different. It doesn't have to always be that way, but when you make laws about what people can/can't say, you always have to take take the worst case and keep it in mind. What if you make a law, and 10, 20, 30 years down the road it's been slowly modified, just a little at a time, until the people that made the law don't even recognize it anymore?
You wanna know the funny part? Can't claim ignorance of the law as a defence if he actually googled the relevant laws right there on bodycamera. Bahahahahaha!
There is research that shows that lying to a suspect (in other circumstances it's called gaslighting) is a form of psychological torture. There are innocent people who, in order to escape this psychological torture, have incriminated themselves. I hope that one day this method will be made illegal by the judges.
Alarm and disturb and cause a breach of peace , the middle finger means fuck you, and walking on the side of a busy road ,no sidewalks, and acting like that fits the law to a T.....what you are seeing is just Cops trying to do their Job and how this could have been prevented and over and done with so much easier, mind boggling, .... disorderly conduct is the crime, Cops can't be the victim in the crime, but they can charge you in the name of the public, and Disorderly is the easiest to prove, ...did he alarm or disturb and cause a breach of peace, it also fits for rhe 72 hour mandatory hold in. The mental health, that's even easier to fill out and he's taken to the ER, seen , the form is simple , and he has to go stay in the mental hospital 72 hours, yikes, he's so concerned to mouth off you see him then and he almost gets nailed by a car, that's not normal behavior, it's called cooperate and ybe on your way, or don't put yourself in that situation by flicking people off
All the cops had to do was speak to the dormitory admins for them to search the room and Joel is screwed. Dorms are only half sheltered from the 4th amendment, especially if you sign your rights away to live in the dorms. Also hearsay is usually enough to establish probable cause, so the request for identification wasn’t unreasonable, he’s lucky he didn’t get arrested.
I love the whole, "I'm just checking to see if you're ok." thing. The kid hit the short, pudgy nail on the head; it was all about the cop's fragile ego and his need to assert power. He was probably a legacy hire and always wished he was one of the cool kids. He's got a badge and a gun now, but it still doesn't make him less of a loser and he knows it.
If you’re talking about the second kid, in some states the middle finger is seen as an aggressive gesture/act of aggression. Personally I don’t like that because it gives grounds to law enforcement to do whatever they want in cases like that. Reality is though, if you don’t give people the finger, you’re already ahead, especially when it comes to law enforcement.
@malachigrindle7063 well then law enforcement in my city has been abusing power for too long then. I remember people getting into trouble quite a bit for it. It’s stupid because it’s not like I’m throwing anything at you. It’s just dumb all around. I don’t really care for police and how they operate, but I also know if you avoid doing stuff like that, you’re way less likely to be harassed.
8:33 when asked if he's committed a crime the cop says yes. The boy says according to who and the cop says according to me. This sums up to thinking of a lot of police officers out there. They don't think they're there upholding the law they think they get to make it. They think they get to trample all over your civil rights
They don't think they get to trample on your rights. They KNOW they can and WILL get away with it. At worst they will have their crimes paid for by taxpayers, and most likely will get a promotion. It's no wonder the vast majority of people hate cops.
tbh he is conceited and annoying but i noticed everyone here likes to bash on cops and when they need protection they ask for help. most cops are super chill, this kid needs mental help he seems unstable tbh prob hating and complaining about everything in life, i mean look at his shirt, says all
i think his “you think im afraid of you!?” says all, people who are really not afraid dont say that. i feel like his parents dont love him or something. massive insecurity issues with that kid
@ju_p9011 Dude the cop was harassing him, following down the road sayin "I'm trying to see if you need help". He knows damn well the kid doesn't need shit from him, his ego is just bruised cuz a kid flipped him off. A cop that attempts to harass and detain citizens because of their ego is a bad cop. But keep defendin em on that big horse u got I guess
@ju_p9011he's being harassed by a cop for practice freedom of speech and expression lol the cop had his feelings hurt that the kid didn't suck his boot.
On the other hand, this would have been done in less than 5 minutes if he showed id, now he's wasted his time and theirs. Cops are people too, doing a job almost nobody wants to do anymore. He's baiting cops so he can sue. He is not the hero
@Taxevader-gk9msyoud kinda be a prick too if someone was infringing on your god given rights. And of all the people in this video the law student talking calmly was more of a prick than the kid literally cursing out and flipping off the police for no reason? 😂 what kinda logic is that
@JessyFinch Cops were always dumb. People have portable recording devices (cell phones) and a way (the internet) to distribute the video now that they didn't have in the past.
Yeah especially since the 1 cop turned off his camera he could sue the crap out of him for it my dad is a cop si I know it’s a BIG no no even if it just died 😂 19:42
Ehh, Chris Watts is a good example. They had evidence and motive for an open and shut case, but they still did an incredible interrogation. They can lessen the chance of a plea, or take parole off the table. Generally speaking though, you're right
Depends on the evidence. There is an insanely high burden of proof, guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Their evidence has to be enough to leave zero reasonable doubts about who committed the crime. This is why most convictions of robberies and violent crimes are either confessions or they were caught in the act.
@jwin814 "The confession is just the icing"...... Actually, that's not the case. Most people are convicted on their own admissions, talking to police thinking it will help them (regardless of guilt/innocence). By far the majority of people questioned by police and ultimately prosecuted/convicted began by making admissions in some form or another. Some will admit and confess to their actions, though not many fall into this group. Most will attempt to validate/justify their actions, thinking if they can make it sound "reasonable" they might be let go. They usually do this by giving a narrative that closely resembles the truth of what occurred, but changing the part that makes them criminally responsible. Talking to the police, innocent or guilty, limits your ability to later change your defense. This just gives police the ability to pick apart any plausible defense, element by element, and negate a persons defense in order to achieve a conviction.
3:02 The officer is such a liar. He is trying to make it an order while not ordering the id. Honestly, he should be guilty for even continuing the questions.
Police in America have way shorter training times than in Europe for example, so that partly explains their lack of knowledge. But it's good on him for making sure and admitting he's in the wrong.
@ApexBizSolutions Yeah same thoughts here. I mean good job on Joels part, but the cop seemed pretty chill; Didn't pretend he was correct or put himself in a higher position or anything, just doin his job, not sure how he showed up in a corrupt cops video. If anything Joel kinda seemed more douch-y..? Can't say the same as the other cops though...
@G58 Miranda says 1) You have the right to remain silent. 2) (MOST Improtant) Anything you say can AND WILL be used agaist you in court. 3) You have the right to an attorney. Miranda doesn't guarantee or compel the cops will give you one. The court actually has to order one to take your case. They can still ask questions. Not good for their case but, they can. There will be no penalty for refusing to answer them. If you choose to, that's on you.
They kept bringing him back to his cell and would let him withdraw. He came back one time because it sounds like they promised him methadone, and the second time because they offered him a coke. Thats why the detective kept marandizing him, he was treating it like a "new" interaction, instead of what it really was. A junkie going through withdrawal and he was trying to take advantage of him feeling weaker, except Jeff didn't break. It's really slimy when you think about how this is probably a common practice
They have all kinds of tactics to get around even that. Example: you say "I want a lawyer before I answer any more questions." They say, "that just means you said you would have liked to have one, not that you're requesting one. I can say I want to be a billionaire, I'm obviously not requesting a billion dollars." There are many examples of them playing these kinds of semantics. Sometimes it even actually holds up in court, sometimes it doesn't. But even if it doesn't, you've still been jammed up for however long they want to fuck with you, and they face no repercussions. It's all a game and the game is rigged.
@deathm00n2my question too I don't think there is law against minors having alcohol in my country, but if someone sold it to underage, man, that would suck for them Though strange thing with drug laws, illegal to store/conceal/produce them, nothing said about selling them. Is that just "pass the hot potato" law?
@deathm00n2 honest answer Romen soldiers weren't punished for stealing from Farmers, they were punished for getting caught Same here. Universities are fraternities
@AltOurCumrade get your head out of your ass there is no one keeping anyone safe there its two pigs getting their EGOs hurt and being snowflakes if you dont understand law and why its not okay to detain people because the voices in your head told you so you can refrain from commenting about it
@AltOurCumrade i mean yeah it's kinda wierd i don't see the point in flipping off a Police oficer it can only bring you trouble even tho it's not against the law
@AltOurCumrade You think these self-righteous scumbags that say shit like "no one's going to help you" as if they are kidnapping the guy are gonna keep *anyone* safe?
i would ve expected the guy that lives in a police state to be amazed at the fact americans can stand their ground but no, he s amazed at the fact 18 year olds cant drink alcohol.
@chris4989 Although the Tories are trying to turn the UK into a police state, it's not there yet... The students are old enough to vote, so they're old enough to drink!
@jerry2357 Australia beat you to that. Police officers in most states do not need a warrant to enter your home, just reasonable suspicion that their presence might be needed on the property. Experienced this first hand when I had three plain clothed detectives jump the construction fence on my father's property, circle around the house like common criminals peeking into our windows through the curtain gaps and eventually breaking in through the french doors and destroying them before announcing that they were searching for my brother, still not identifying that they were officers, I simply shouted at them to get off my property and barricaded myself into my room. All three of them then proceeded to force entry into my room and pinned me down, reading me my rights until one of them said "He doesn't look like the kid." Mind you I'm the eldest brother of three and the one they were after is my junior by a whole decade, has a completely different hair style, different hair colour, different eye colour, he's shorter than me and has a smaller frame/build than me. Didn't stop these 'heroes' from scaring the shit out of me and making me think my dad had borrowed money from thugs who were there to collect on payments until at long last one shouted in my ear "We are police, who are you? Identify yourself!" All I remember at that point through the fear and tears in my eyes was shouting "My wallet is in my bedside table," Didn't get an apology the station didn't pay for the $3000 in damages, or even mention the fact they traumatised a 25 year old who had prior to the incident been recovering from a sickness. It was that incident alone that taught me never to trust the police, never give them anything they don't have the right to and n ever believe anything that comes out of their mouthes, they are no different to the criminals you dodge in city alleys, just dressed nicely and put through government training to become thugs.
9:02 "No one will help you" Bone-chilling stuff, especially with the context that he turned his body cam off shortly after. Makes the "I was checking to see if you were okay" facade the cop pitches later even more hollow than it already was. Pulling over out of genuine concern betrays a fundamental difference in character from that borne out by the footage. This is something that should wake you up if you're the one saying it, and I sincerely hope that man recognized this moment in his life as an opportunity to transform into an actual civil servant and good man. God bless, stay safe, and great work to the lads in this video, very grateful that they're alright.
@Jack0f4lltrades "The police are overmilitarized and taking away funds from crime prevention while operating under a legal framework that enables and does not respond adequately to abuses of power and it would make everyones lives better to restructure law enforcement so our public servants have to be held accountable instead of being allowed to get away with extrajudicially killing people they don't like and maybe our tax dollars can keep more people who are mentally ill and homeless and addicts off the streets so they aren't committing crimes in the first place instead of paying for assault rifles and SWAT teams" does not mean "i have to swear abstinence from utilizing any facet of this system intended to be a public service that is also literally taking my money to fund itself whenever i buy groceries"
There seriously needs to be a law making it illegal for cops to blatantly lie during an interrogation to coerce a suspect into admitting to something. Way too many innocent citizens have been intimidated and coerced into admitting to something they didn’t do because the cops lied about something else.
@wiebahh5304 Not really, it's no different than other tactics such as undercover work. What it does mean is that you should remember to say nothing until you are charged and they are forced to publish any evidence they do or do not have. That is true even in countries with fewer protections than the US. It's their job to gather evidence and not yours to supply it if accused. Let them make arses of themselves and cost the taxpayer a fortune then if not charged litigate for wrongful arrest or if charged dump your alibi/counter evidence down their throats. Costing them money is the first port of call when they misbehave, often it's the only satisfaction you'll ever get. BTW, why are most US cops obese?
@Trackside1234 Yeah, but it is abused by detectives using this tactic on shit they know is no big deal and they KNOW is wrong. It's helped get alot of people, but its a double-edged sword. Your an authority figure in the biggest power dynamic possible in the nation. Out of the gate suspects are weak and liable to manipulation.
@darthwiizius , size matters in a fight. A 350 pound guy will usually beat a 250 pound guy especially if they go to the ground. That 100 pound difference doesn’t have to be all muscle to work. That’s why there are weight classes in boxing and wrestling.
The thing is, I don’t like cops and i literally do everything in my power to not have to interact with them. At the same time though I don’t like most auditors because they go out of their way to be d*cks and provoke the police. There are also good auditors who know how to expose bad police without being jerky.
I mean why is he just flipping him off and swearing at him for no reason And we encourage this? Sure it's unlawful what the cops did But it's not like they brutalized em, It suddenly gave him the right to be an absolute asshole an d he is justified?
im not into law but i dont quite understand. if he is suspected cause someone report it. it is not enough ground to do a check? what else do you need to do that? surveillance footage to catch redhanded? like how much ground do you need to make it a 'lawful order'? policing in the states seems like a nightmare and i guess that's why crime is frequent as well
@lmquan082 Someone saw someone bringing in alcohol... that's pretty weak evidence... It's also a bit stupid of you to talk about what's happening in the States when someone brought beer into a dorm room... And the fact that the police don't have the same rights as in totalitarian countries and most post-communist countries is good in my opinion. In Poland, the police in a small town can come in and search non-stop because someone claims that someone has kidnapped their cat and is keeping it in their apartment... The only thing I don't like is the fact that in the US you can use vulgar words towards a police officer... that is not optimal in my opinion.
Contrary to what Law and Order tells you, when you’re a cop and a suspect asks for a lawyer, you shut up, you end the interview, and you see to it that they get a lawyer. Keeping the conversation going is a great way to lose your job and your pension.
@matthewmoore7447 qualified immunity was and has always been a mistake. Even when it was argued in court the judges thought it was too braod....its just time consuming and financially consuming to uproot qualified immunity in most states.
@shanghunter7697 At the very least, when they do lawyer up, the case gets thrown out and the county/state usually has to pay a pretty penny for their malpractice.
@amidalaprin4846 Pensions are just another form of retirement plans. Generally speaking, whether they get a new job or not, they are getting what has been laid out for them once they hit retirement age.
@yaseensalie2550why become a cop if you get genuinely angry at something as irrevelant as someone verbally disrespecting you? If you really wanna defend your pride you can just badmouth them back, y'know?
Keeping us safe from beer drinking college students...I live in an area with a lot of colleges/universities/academies, it's called the 5 college area but idk why, there's a lot more than that! Perhaps because several are quite notable. But, lots and lots of students in a more rural area so...students & farmers, odd combo? We understand that drinking beer in your college years is the right time to do it? It's when you're drinking like a 20 year old and you're in your 30's or older it becomes a problem. Not drinking & driving tho, that's not cool. Bad idea all around.
You think this sounds clever, but who commits the most dui and other alcohol related crimes? They’re keeping kids safe as much as hassling, but you’re probably smarter than everyone here and thought this through already.
@jarrodschuck6021 My local city, Sheffield, has 2 universities and 65,000 students. As far as I can tell, they all drink. Freshers week can get a little messy, but mostly they quickly realise they have to ration the student loan. Wednesdays, after the BUCS sporting events, can be a little noisy, particularly the rugby teams, but mostly they are as good as gold and the cops leave them well alone, they have real criminals to chase.
Imagine: they know your name is Joel, and you live in residence.. and they have your room number, but somehow they need your ID to figure out who you are.
some people become cops because they want to be unconditionally respected above everyone else. so when you show them the slightest hint of disrespect they go crazy and often lose their jobs. funny but also sad for the people that are incorrectly treated like a criminals
6:45 The Notepad that just says "Joel" and nothing else i'm CACKLING. Excellent detective work officer you learned so much information from your harassment
He could have asked the dorm RA (probably the Karen with the lanyard seen later in the video) who "Joel" was and she would have spilled the beans - she is probably the one that called. But these days cops never seem to start their "investigation" with the caller.
I have a kid with mild autism and have instructed him to politely decline to answer any questions from a law enforcement officer and to demand we be present if they continue to ask questions. We know how corrupt cops try to manipulate suggestible individuals into confessing things they have not done.
This reminded me of the story of a undercover cop who manipulated a mentally challenged student into helping a friend find weed and then charged the poor kid :(
Rather than tell him to demand you be present you need to tell him to demand a lawyer - “I will not answer any questions or make any statements I request my attorney” - demanding parents be present is not enshrined in the constitution. But having an attorney is….
As a person with autism, who has been through the process of being arrested over a misunderstanding - what you're teaching is incredibly stupid. "Mommy and Daddy" aren't gonna be a factor in a cell. Between arrest and court, you won't even see him. Prepare the guy for how to handle police interaction, don't just.. "demand you be present" because that's not a legal requirement even in places with very progressive mental health policy. If you're under arrest, you don't have the right to demand anything except a lawyer. Teach him to do that. Also, the blanket "answer no questions" is kinda stupid, too. Say, for example, cops are searching your residential area at night for an active at-large criminal, and you're outside smoking or something, one of them shines a light in your face and asks who you are and why you're there, you're going to make your situation really bad for yourself by not just dropping your name and stating your business. "Don't answer questions" kinda depends on the circumstances. Suspicion of guilt? Silence. Confirming you're not who they're looking for? Answer away
Asking for a lawyer is not enough. You have to keep silent after that, or repeat that you want a lawyer. That's the only thing left you shoud say untill you actually get a lawyer.
@gregkasza1925 That also drives the ego driven criminals absolutely crazy, iv'e done it 3 times in the last few yrs now. Always keep thy pie hole closed, blows my mind when i see these videos and the masses just rambling on......unreal !
If you're a cop that gets triggered by a kid giving the finger, you're in the wrong job by far. That cop's a lawsuit waiting to happen . Yet another wonderful tyrant the whole area has to deal with until perpetuating the worst of policing..
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"no one will help you" that's a predator's line...
If someone asks for his badge number he'll say edp445
@barnardfly9043LOLLLLL
The diddler
Sept 14 is my birthday
Legally you cant
I love how the 2nd cop quite literally admitted he’s breaking the law by saying “Says me”, not “Says law.”
"I am the law >:("
Yea, it can get tricky when law gets enforced in more rural areas in some states
“i am the law” ahh quote
How would “says” require an apostrophe? Can you explain your reasoning?
@Livingtree32 My bad, that was a minor grammar mistake I accidentally made.
An actual cop reading an AI overview for a law he should know is absolute comedy
How quickly people forget that AI overviews did not exist just a few years ago.
Let’s not overlook that this is the most basic premise of law enforcement.
This isn’t some obscure law-this is Day 1, Hour 1 of the academy.
To be a bricklayer, you should at least know what a brick is.
To be a plumber, one should know what water is.
To be a cop, you only have to know what a lobotomy is.
Police are meant to enforce thousands of laws.
What is funny is that citizens are meant to follow hundreds of thousands of laws which we are not taught during our 12+ years.
Now people are complaining about police enforcing some laws instead of complaining about the amount of laws and selective enforcement. If we could get police to enforce every law on the books, the peasants would learn fast that they know nothing about the law and want to reduce the amount of laws.
@StonegoalThe reduction in laws will never happen. It is highly expensive and a burden on the courts. But the bigger reason is because laws serve the government. They bring revenue via fines, court costs, admin, oversight, testing, supervision, review, permitting, inspection, review, and on.
@peopleplacesthings5977
"The reduction in laws will never happen." True which should make us all cynical of positive change.
"It is highly expensive and a burden on the courts." Expensive is not a term you use with government. No
"But the bigger reason is because laws serve the government." No. Laws limit government power, if they are always enforced.
"They bring revenue via fines, court costs, admin, oversight, testing, supervision, review, permitting, inspection, review, and on." Goverment uses taxes, subsidies and fees to control habits of the population. Modern government run on fiat money they print every year.
A cop googling the law is like a surgeon looking up a tutorial on how to give heart surgery😂
I don't mind doctors looking up information. That means they're trying. That's a good thing
If you study something for 10-20 years, than perhaps you shouldn’t be a doctor. If you need Google as your best friend, that is.
I would like to hear; we did our best to save you instead; we TRIED our best to save you with Google AI.
Like wtf man? What world do you live in?
@ZehGfatherI don't think doctors should be using Google as there only source, but I do understand when a doctor, on their own time, googles something because when you become a doctor, you are taking in so much information, I can see a doctor forgetting a part of a study then googling it just to make sure of something
@ZehGfatherthan you're naive if you think doctors arent looking things up. Theres too much information and new diseases popping up daily.
@ZehGfather No singular person can memorize all that information and not forget a thing or two every now and then, searching things up is common in the medical field. Doctors aren't robots. this is common knowledge.
Cop uttering "No one will help you" is crazy work 😭
no genuinely made me sick to my stomach like what the actual fuck??
Not sure if i understood it correctly. maybe it isnt in the rules but he still gived him the finger, and cursed at him for no reason. remember police officers are also just humans.
@Sinobadino police officers in the us arent "Just humans" they're bastards who murder innocents
@Sinobadino If it's not a crime then the cops have no legal right to detain you. If it hurt their feelings, they have to deal with it just like every other human. They don't legally get to use police powers to intimidate you, although they illegally do it all the time.
@jjgaming9381he was still a dickhead, and he treated him like he was *another of those bad policemen* and just gave him the finger. and yes the policeman didnt help the situation. but again, what did the kid really think would happen?
Turning the bodycam off during an arrest should be instant dismissal.
should be a felony with an instant bias against the cop because it shows the intent to commit and conceal a crime.
They should be locked on for the entire shift and no mute button. Maybe a pause button for restroom use, but the cop should state....going on pause for restroom and the bathroom and camera should have a sensor to show entrance and exit with time stamp.
Should be prison time (destruction of evidence)
should be minimum of 1 year in Prison
Make them think real hard before they hit that button
Should be a criminal offense, obstructing justice.
"says who!"
"says me"
damn lil homie just won the jack pot!
Good luck trying to sue a cop and don't get harassed by police all the rest of your life.
@tonelda5057 with the money hes about to win from the city he can just move to a different one lol or a different state
@tonelda5057bruh that’s a trade I’ll do 100% every time. You’re saying that cops will commit crimes to me so that gives me the right to sue, thus giving me the ULTIMATE INFINITE MONEY GLITCH. Sir, your comment backfired
@tonelda5057 pig licker
Literally that cop said "you get a lot of money!!!"
Turning off your own bodycam should be instant grounds for dismissal and a chargeable criminal offense.
Yes, I agree. You know they're up to no good.
It's a given.
And automatically invalidate the entire interaction/arrest during which they turned it off.
Turning off body cams should be instant grounds for being fired
ah cops can't really get fired, they'll just claim they feared for their life and its like the incident never happened, they can carry on with their jobs without punishment
It should also come with a criminal penalty for destruction of evidence
It should be felony tampering.
Arrested*
Government will continue to let them get away, because both sides of the isle wants their votes.
The moment the cops did not provide Jeff with access to his lawyer, was the same moment they made every bit of that interrogation completely inadmissible in court.
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@kieranmckenna9252 xD
Since 2010 @kieranmckenna9252
Bro i was gonna say the exact same thing 💀
Idiot cops who don't respect the laws are what allow a**holes on the streets and lets corrupt cops get away with what they do.@pesto841
Dude the first law student kid had a grin so big on his face that it almost seems like he only decided to study law to then tell off underqualified cops. I am in full approvement of that amount of spite.
He was goading them along because he knew they would mess up. Who needs a scholarship when the police are about to pay his tuition? Yu-gi-oh level trap cards.
Yeah, everybody’s fine with the snake in the grass. Until the snake is biting them.
Lowkey I think he had one of his boys call the cops about it just to school them 😂 seemed like it was pre planned lol
At the end he even high fives his
bro's and theyre laughing loud as fuck😂
@ynreb3057 YO HE PLANNED THIS SHIT BRUH 😭😭😭
That second kid is so Jersey 🤣
First kid got his beer, the last man got his coke, the middle cop got his middle finger! 😂
that was a lil disrespectful but you got it right bby
@fxgnxfjhjlfkouyrich people do it all the time with the law and regulation but somehow for the law this is worse
@fxgnxfjhjlfkouy r u feelings hurt? 😭😭
@fxgnxfjhjlfkouy Disrespect isn't a crime
"No, usually I'm the prick.."
"Yeah, you look like a prick."
I've seen that interview at least 20 times and that part always makes me laugh out loud.
same this dudes comically witty lmao
His other line too : "the only reason I came here is to get a f@#$ing coke" LOL
@coeie4912especially for someone actively going through heroin withdrawal lol
Me too
thats so fucking well comedically timed delivery too
The clip of the cops notepad at 6:46 with just "Joel" written on it was hilarious
i think it's sad why are those morons making the life of people who risk theirs to ensure protecting the citizens so hard and why are all the other students celebrating it wtf is wrong with this country
@henrymoutarde605Oh yeah, they're going to save us from underage drinkers... these are grown ass adults in college, in one of the FEW countries on the planet where drinking at 18 is illegal. 😂 this is a massive waste of resources and just goes to show how overfunded and wasteful our police force is that they can send a whole team of people to interview a grown ass man about alcohol.
@henrymoutarde605why did they need his ID?
@henrymoutarde605 It's funny you called morons the ones who actually knew the law, not the cops who had to google it.
@henrymoutarde605I guarantee the one like on your comment was you liking it yourself. Please don't share your bad ideas on the internet when you don't know what you're talking about.
“says who?” “SAYS ME” JUST TELLS EVERYTHING 😂 8:51
"Wham bam thank you for the coke, put me back in the cell"
Jeff is a legend
HAHAHA FR
yep, even if he's a piece of shit thieving bastard he still has rights
the only reason i came up here is just for the fucking coke lmfao. Just epic. lol
@iskatas1089 Jeff really likes his soda man what I can tell you.
He screwed with abusive police, and got a free coke in the deal. Legendary.
that cop getting mad over a CHILD flipping him off is so childish. cant believe im supposed to trust these grown ass men who act like children with my life.
Fragile Egos
You're actually not supposed to trust them, at all. Law enforcement officials are only in existence to protect the assets and property of the city and state they're in. Your money is their property.
Brother please do not trust random people in power with your life.
@user-yk9sz9mh1t its sister, and you bet your ass i don't
@Cherno35 yes ma'am you're damn right! And cool ultrakill pfp
“No one will help you” is insane coming from an officer.
“No one will help you” this is why cops should be more careful about their statements
Thugs with badges
THE CORRUPT MASSACHUSETTS STATE POLICE IN CHESHIRE MA TOLD ME I CANNOT CALL FOR HELP. ISNT THAT ILLEGAL
@harleyquinnn9228 No, actually. The Supreme Court ruled that law enforcement has no legal obligation to help you. Wild, isn’t it?
@alexwyatt2911 read the question again
How stupid you must be to fight a law student on laws
Turning the bodycam off during an arrest should be instant dismissal. Corrupt af
It gives me even more respect for the good cops though.
@PuckFan738 the ones covering and lying for the corrupt ones u mean? or the ones who get their tires slashed by their coworkers for speaking out?
@csfellz The ones that speak out do their job the correct way and follow the law. Say the Miranda rights. Allow the person to ask for an attorney. They are rare but they exist.
its hard tho becuase can also be legit too like when ambulance adn cops took out my dead mom (killed by the system) they turned the cams off for "respect" while the body was extracted.
@PuckFan738 The only good cops are the ones that quit after they see all the corruption in the system. I cant consider anyone apart of that system good, unless they are new, and genuinely don't know how bad the "justice" system is.
“Jeff I’m not gonna get a confession out of you for nothin”
“Exactly”😂
"Get me some methodone and we'll see about it."
Cops do some pretty low things, but to promise a man a butterfingers and not give it to him is pure evil.
Un-fucking called for.
I don't like liars of any kind.
Idk... maybe the cop was thinking about the guys teeth? That stuff gets into your teeth and takes forever to get out. Now if it had a been a Milky Way.... the cop should be arrested. Milky Ways are delicious and arguably good for you.
The real reason PIGS want your ID (beyond running your information for warrants), is to put an asterisk next to your name in the NCIC database as "Hostile To Law Enforcement".
It's a real thing and it's used against countless unsuspecting Americans everyday.
The UNITED STATES OF AMERIKA is a bonafide police state.
“Sic semper evello mortem tyrannis.”
This is the best joke you could have written after watching this 😂
That middle finger for the second cop was definitely justified and he earned himself a few more.
6:45 all he has in notebook is "Joel" 😂
LMAOOOOO
Holy shit I missed that, amazing
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH FUCK THAT'S SO FUNNY, THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT
There is absolutely no way that notebook would fly in court. The pages must be numbered and removing a page is difficult. I did basic security guarding and we were required to have a proper police-grade notepad. I would have been written up for what that cop is using.
@TreeStump-and-CheeseKetchupIThe probably drafts on that pad & inputs it later into official pad
"I ain't threatening nothing, brother"
Lol, smart guy. It's not a threat, it's a promise.
it’s not a threat, it’s called self defense. same reason why many countries have armies, not only to attack or invade other countries but to defend against one lest they be defenseless
Not even a threat but a statement "Doing X is grounds for me to do Y"
“I don’t make threats, I make guarantees.”
If a court case can be seen as a threat, then there is something seriously wrong with the court system. Court case should be functionnaly synonymous with 'justice'. Who can you threat with justice? A criminal. To a lawful citizen, justice is essential, not harmful.
Not even a promise. It's a fact lol
The way the students went crazy laughing inside the room right after the incident with the cops right there got me😂
There was no beer, his buddy just called the cops saying he might have beer and they had a bet on it. Now he can write a thesis on it, good for them.
@sparqqling thats so fucking illegal lmao
They were cracking a few beers
@Expie3409and completely deniable.. win!
Fraud or wasting police time or summing, for sure, I dunno, I'm a dumbaß, but plausible deniability is a b****
cedomadaras8863 phone logs..? calling the police without plausible reason is illegal and a waste of their time, time they could be using saving lives or preventing tragedies. Especially if the police were called for a joke, which can result in jail time and a significant fine.
" I only came up here for a free coke" 😂🤣. He played those fools. 😅
Once a "suspect" asks for a lawyer any cop who continues to question should be charged with violating constitutional rights.
Qualified Immunity needs to be revoked at the Federal level. It's the only way to hold these cops accountable. Otherwise the tax payer ends up footing the bill for these civil rights lawsuits.
@TrackerRoo We could also use arms.
The only time cops have to stop asking questions is after they utter the words you are under arrest. Even after they say you are under arrest they can still ask you questions they just cannot use what they learn against you in court.
unfortunately courts have decided that saying "I need a lawyer" is not a request for a lawyer. You have to be explicitly clear that you want to speak to a lawyer immediately and that you will not speak to them further without a lawyer present. It's bullshit that a non-legal expert has to be so legally specific with their wording but that's the state of US justice right now.
@mrthewhite2620 Just like the courts have ruled that you have to say you are invoking your right to be silent, otherwise it can be used against you.
I love the LOUD celebrations the instant Joel closes the door lmao
That was stupid immaturity because that actually a crime, they just outsmarted some cops & probably got away with being underage bring alcohol into the dorm . Unlike the kid on the side of the road with no one around wee could hear them all the way down the hall...
Disturbing the Peace
Disturbing the peace, also known as breach of the peace, is a criminal offense that occurs when a person engages in some form of unruly public behavior, such as fighting or causing unreasonable noise.
When a person’s words or conduct jeopardizes another person’s right to peace and tranquility, that person may be charged with disturbing the peace.
To avoid bringing every offensive conduct into the criminal justice system, lawmakers need to review disturbing the peace laws to make sure they are not overly vague or prohibit lawful conduct. Likewise, law enforcement officers need to exercise proper restraint and discretion to avoid accusations that such charges target certain populations.
No matter how minor criminal charges seem, someone accused of disturbing the peace has the right to legal counsel.
What Constitutes Disturbing the Peace?
States & local communities enact laws that make it a crime to create a public disturbance or commotion. Sometimes, these crimes may be called disorderly conduct. These laws vary from state to state, so it makes sense to review the elements of the crime. Disturbing the peace laws typically prohibit:
Fighting or challenging someone to fight in a public place;
Using offensive language or "fighting words" in a public place that are likely to incite an immediate violent reaction;
Shouting in a public space intending to incite violence or unlawful activity;
Bullying a student on or near school grounds;
Knocking loudly on hotel doors of sleeping guests with the purpose of annoying them;
Holding an unlawful public assembly;
Shouting profanities, offensive words, or slurs out of a car window in front of a person’s home over an extended period of time;
Allowing excessive dog barking in a residential area; and
Intentionally playing loud music during the night that continues, even after a fair warning.
In most states, the person’s conduct must be on purpose (willful) or with bad intent (malicious). It is not enough that a person engages in conduct that merely annoys, harasses, or embarrasses someone else. If fighting is at issue, it must be unlawful and not in self-defense or the defense of others.
To determine guilt, consider include the following:
Location or place
Time
Words used
Actions taken
The persons involved (for example, a police officer, teacher, student, relative, or passerby)
Situations that may lead to a disturbing the peace charge are quite varied. Examples might include getting into a physical fight over a parking space or playing loud music to intentionally annoy and disturb your neighbors.
Crimes against the public peace may appear to be similar at times, yet they have distinct elements. For example, while public intoxication may seem to prohibit disturbances as well, it must also include an element of voluntary intoxication.
@CaddyJim sybau 🥀
@CaddyJim no one will read your text, btw pls don't like ur own post.. its look ridiculous
@CaddyJimwe found the snitch!!!
@CaddyJim So you think celebrating is a crime now? 🤣
Jeff rocks. Also, it’s so funny that the cop is trying to guilt Jeff into putting himself into prison in exchange for a can of soda. “We helped you out” lmfao
Cops aren't smart lmao.
Jeff's a *_Legend!_*
he was later charged with the crime and found guilty btw
@mangojuulshe did get a coke out of it though
@mangojuuls Nope he was released
he actually has a youtube channel that he posts on named "the legend of jeff"
13:00 stretching the definition of "teens" are we?
Stfu. He could be 18 that looks 30
@iZ0_universe😂😂 you come to simp for him? 🤡🤡
@Matt083109 what-?
@heidi.with.an.iif you don't speak English, mind your business
"I just came here for a Coke"
Seriously imagine getting arrested but seeing an opportuniy for a nice beverage and deciding it was all worth it just for that 😂
Coke is addicting. Makes sense.
@Gennady_1313 incorrect coke
When the second one told the cops to stfu I genuinely had a hearty laugh.
The look on his face too, he looked so satisfied.
I spat out my tea laughing at that moment
he has some insecurity issues tbh, look at him and why give finger to cop when they did nothing wrong? kid didnt have love in childhood imo. most ppl who try to act tough have massive mental issues thats why they act tough and hate, hope he seeks therapy
@ju_p9011 yea ok but who asked
This is a comment section where people can say what they think . Who asked you if you were the administrator of this post? Fuckin loser @squiddle5193
Who tf are you to say some random kid you don't know needs therapy? What are you a shrink?
First guy 100% had beer in his room lmao
ya no kidding, if they searched every room in that dorm i bet almost all had alcohol, or at very least evidence of it being consumed recently. Except 1 room. The room of person who ratted him out.
He does not look under 18. Also is this really a crime that justifies calling the cops?
drinking age is 21 in the us@bobnevermind
@bobnevermind in America you need to be 21.
in my country the law is 16 for purchase of light 18 for heavy and no law against possesion or consuption@quentin458
America: A country where the kids regularly murder each other in school, but god forbid they have a beer, someone call cops, this kid is out here enjoying himself. That's not what America is about, apparently.
Cops trying to arrest someone for causing a "public disturbance" when they're the only ones disturbing a member of the public. 🤦
Why is it okay to insult anyone, including cops, its an offense where i live just not in America for some reason and it looks like its being abused by people like this guy...
@matissozols8498 It's freedom of speech. Being able to speak your mind freely, so long as you're not calling for violence against someone or something, is one of our core values here in the USA. If you can't flip a cop the finger, then next thing you know you can't say your elected official is doing something wrong, and if you can't call out corruption, that's the #1 way to get MORE corruption.
@kedolan4992 haven't seen it play out like that, because the law applies to everyone not just select people like police or politicians, but as long as you are satisfied with the fact that anyone can freely and purposely offend you, I guess that's just something I find unacceptable behavior.
@matissozols8498 "I haven't seen it play out like that". Read a history book... Pick one. Any one. "Offense" is an emotion/feeling. I find it ridiculous you think YOU, get to dictate what's "right or wrong" based off what offends YOU. Hence one of the biggest REASONS for the right to freedom of speech. Your compelled speech IS the problem. There's literally people being locked up for saying an election was fraudulent. There's people being locked up for saying nasty things about their gov't. That's the results of your "acceptable behavior".
Not to mention. If you're that easily offended by some random person, you'll most likely never interact with again. You have larger personal issues to deal with first. Spoiler alert. There's billions of people in the world. They don't care what offends you. It's irrelevant.
@matissozols8498 The problem is not everyone finds the same things offensive. What if you're joking around with some friends, but someone on the street near you hears it, and gets offended? Should you then be arrested? Even in the best case scenario where "everyone" decides "this is what we find offensive", that just means that you've now decided that anyone who doesn't fit in the "normal" mold, is now committing crimes simply for being different.
It doesn't have to always be that way, but when you make laws about what people can/can't say, you always have to take take the worst case and keep it in mind. What if you make a law, and 10, 20, 30 years down the road it's been slowly modified, just a little at a time, until the people that made the law don't even recognize it anymore?
A cop googling laws is terrifying 😭
They are not lawyers, they are human.
Bro had to double check fr 😭🙏
What's even more terrifying is that they don't even know the constitution...the thing they swore an oath to
You wanna know the funny part? Can't claim ignorance of the law as a defence if he actually googled the relevant laws right there on bodycamera. Bahahahahaha!
as well as having troubles reading "dis-guis-ing"
Holy crap! If Joel was drinking and that effective, every criminal cop should be terrified of him sober!
Because 1-2 beers get you knocked out yeah sure thing buddy
@xinlou6707 i dont get knocked out but i do have a very low tolerance so i feel like im walking at a 50 degree angle after a few beers.
Joel is a future legend of a defense attorney.
@xinlou6707how do you know if he was drinking it was only 1-2? 💀💀 shut the fuck up lmao
Alchohol damages every last of your body. It's worse than cigarettes.
"COULD" 😂😂😂😂😂 the officers were pissed 😂😂😂
The “AYE”’s when Joel went into his room and all the cops just stare at the floor lol
Absolutely got wasted with the boys after that.
@billbill6094 I fuckin would
Some of us have massive cocks. Some become police.
200% had alcohol in there lol
None of them stared at the floor
refusing a suspect medical care or medicine during an interrogation has to be on the same level as torture
There is research that shows that lying to a suspect (in other circumstances it's called gaslighting) is a form of psychological torture. There are innocent people who, in order to escape this psychological torture, have incriminated themselves.
I hope that one day this method will be made illegal by the judges.
and a lawyer, he explicitly requested a lawyer
What hours of questioning? HOURS of questioning.
You mean the butter finger, right? Almost worse torture than denying nutter butters.
Yea if your a cop and your flipped off you should be adult enough to have it not even bother you at most it should make u laugh
at 6:45 one of the officers opens his notebook and literally the only thing he has written down is joel 😂
LOL, Joel got em!
Itd be perfect if he drew a little stick figure next to it 😂
Omg. 😂 I love this.
Hahaha 😂
😂
The cops lack of understanding Freedom of Speech in the second clip just shits for the birds😂😂
Stop cursing,
"Shut the f*** up"
*Walks away*
What a beast
@Silverstonedynamiccentrist energy comin from you
@Silverstonedynamicbros the alpha bros the leader 💀💀
I started laughing so hard, it was risky, but he had made his point so well they couldn't do shit lol
Beast for what? Freedom of speech doesn't mean you have to be an asshole. Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom of consequence, fucking betas males.
Alarm and disturb and cause a breach of peace , the middle finger means fuck you, and walking on the side of a busy road ,no sidewalks, and acting like that fits the law to a T.....what you are seeing is just Cops trying to do their Job and how this could have been prevented and over and done with so much easier, mind boggling, .... disorderly conduct is the crime, Cops can't be the victim in the crime, but they can charge you in the name of the public, and Disorderly is the easiest to prove, ...did he alarm or disturb and cause a breach of peace, it also fits for rhe 72 hour mandatory hold in. The mental health, that's even easier to fill out and he's taken to the ER, seen , the form is simple , and he has to go stay in the mental hospital 72 hours, yikes, he's so concerned to mouth off you see him then and he almost gets nailed by a car, that's not normal behavior, it's called cooperate and ybe on your way, or don't put yourself in that situation by flicking people off
6:20 This teen is actually insane.
His confidence levels are off the charts.
He has that charisma perk frfr
@virtuosoewed he got the chaRIZZma
Stayin on business🗣
Yea, he got them crazy eyes for sure.
@davidyusaku YOU realize that rizz came from the word charisma
The latino kid had a "you idiots are gonna pay for the rest of my law degree" grin on his face...
I wish I knew if he filed. He would win.
I wish that statement turned out to be true, kid already looks like a great advocate
@soonernation37 if i remember correctly he did file but it hasnt gone anywhere yet, i saw it on some yt channel a couple weeks ago.
All the cops had to do was speak to the dormitory admins for them to search the room and Joel is screwed. Dorms are only half sheltered from the 4th amendment, especially if you sign your rights away to live in the dorms. Also hearsay is usually enough to establish probable cause, so the request for identification wasn’t unreasonable, he’s lucky he didn’t get arrested.
@martiano13brosaudit the audit?
6:46 could just be me but i found it hilarious all the cop wrote down was "Joel" on his notepad
7:40 you’re under arrest for hurting my feewings 🥺
I lol'd so hard at this
cornball
@tugrez1017 how tf is he a cornball my guy
@tugrez1017your mom 😂
@tugrez1017a baby new words when hearing an old trend 💔✌🏼
I love the whole, "I'm just checking to see if you're ok." thing. The kid hit the short, pudgy nail on the head; it was all about the cop's fragile ego and his need to assert power. He was probably a legacy hire and always wished he was one of the cool kids. He's got a badge and a gun now, but it still doesn't make him less of a loser and he knows it.
We're here to help you. You know like how we help our wives get down the stairs faster. Fucking losers.
If you’re talking about the second kid, in some states the middle finger is seen as an aggressive gesture/act of aggression. Personally I don’t like that because it gives grounds to law enforcement to do whatever they want in cases like that. Reality is though, if you don’t give people the finger, you’re already ahead, especially when it comes to law enforcement.
@Aextra101 it's not an act of aggression in any state. Nice try
@malachigrindle7063 well then law enforcement in my city has been abusing power for too long then. I remember people getting into trouble quite a bit for it. It’s stupid because it’s not like I’m throwing anything at you. It’s just dumb all around. I don’t really care for police and how they operate, but I also know if you avoid doing stuff like that, you’re way less likely to be harassed.
I dont think any state can enact laws with more precedent then the constitution, thats kinda the whole schtick.
"Stop cursing, stop..." "Shut the fuck up" bro im dead
“Says who”
“Says me”
Dam, cop is all of Congress contained within once person
“You cursed me off”
“That’s not a crime”
“Yes it is! It hurt my feelings” 😂
😂
Thats how Twitter users think it works xD
Oh my!!! I had to go back and listen again!!
This lil dude is freakin AWESOME
That sure wasn't very nice, would arrest
Its illegal in the UK @atleholtskog2901
8:33 when asked if he's committed a crime the cop says yes. The boy says according to who and the cop says according to me. This sums up to thinking of a lot of police officers out there. They don't think they're there upholding the law they think they get to make it. They think they get to trample all over your civil rights
Straight up.
Crooked cops trying to coerce a confession with coke and a candy bar..
So no confession no candy...sick!
@dsaintyoder9792Some of them cops do like to keep the coke though.
@DirtyDirkDiggler...I suppose you mean the type that comes in the powder form 😂😂😂😂😂
They don't think they get to trample on your rights. They KNOW they can and WILL get away with it. At worst they will have their crimes paid for by taxpayers, and most likely will get a promotion. It's no wonder the vast majority of people hate cops.
2nd kid was hilarious. "Shut the fuck up lol. Am I free to go?"
this kid is the definition of insolent, in a good and hilarious way 🤣
tbh he is conceited and annoying but i noticed everyone here likes to bash on cops and when they need protection they ask for help. most cops are super chill, this kid needs mental help he seems unstable tbh prob hating and complaining about everything in life, i mean look at his shirt, says all
i think his “you think im afraid of you!?” says all, people who are really not afraid dont say that. i feel like his parents dont love him or something. massive insecurity issues with that kid
@ju_p9011 Dude the cop was harassing him, following down the road sayin "I'm trying to see if you need help". He knows damn well the kid doesn't need shit from him, his ego is just bruised cuz a kid flipped him off. A cop that attempts to harass and detain citizens because of their ego is a bad cop. But keep defendin em on that big horse u got I guess
@ju_p9011he's being harassed by a cop for practice freedom of speech and expression lol the cop had his feelings hurt that the kid didn't suck his boot.
Reminding a cop he doesn't have qualified immunity is DIABOLICAL I would have 1000% left that kid alone after that
I love it when citizens exercise their rights to the fullest extend of the law.
On the other hand, this would have been done in less than 5 minutes if he showed id, now he's wasted his time and theirs. Cops are people too, doing a job almost nobody wants to do anymore. He's baiting cops so he can sue. He is not the hero
Yeah and the mayority do It to be an asssholle to others, lets celebrate the lack of integrity 🥴
it's always good to exercise your rights but that first guy was kinda just being a dick
@Taxevader-gk9msyoud kinda be a prick too if someone was infringing on your god given rights. And of all the people in this video the law student talking calmly was more of a prick than the kid literally cursing out and flipping off the police for no reason? 😂 what kinda logic is that
@H.i.m......"God given rights" 😂😂😂😂
"Says me" is a great justification for arrest and will 100% hold up in a court of law.
"Your honor, if I actually did it, why would I swear on my mama that I didn't?" type behavior.
Cops getting dumber by the day
@JessyFinch Cops were always dumb. People have portable recording devices (cell phones) and a way (the internet) to distribute the video now that they didn't have in the past.
he is the law
Yeah especially since the 1 cop turned off his camera he could sue the crap out of him for it my dad is a cop si I know it’s a BIG no no even if it just died 😂 19:42
If they have evidence, they don't need a confession. They'll just arrest and charge you.
most o the time, the confession is just the icing, evidence can be suppressed thrown out tainted etc, the confession is always good.
Ehh, Chris Watts is a good example. They had evidence and motive for an open and shut case, but they still did an incredible interrogation. They can lessen the chance of a plea, or take parole off the table. Generally speaking though, you're right
Depends on the evidence.
There is an insanely high burden of proof, guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Their evidence has to be enough to leave zero reasonable doubts about who committed the crime.
This is why most convictions of robberies and violent crimes are either confessions or they were caught in the act.
@jwin814 A confession from a junkie going through withdrawals isn't worth sh*t.
@jwin814 "The confession is just the icing"......
Actually, that's not the case. Most people are convicted on their own admissions, talking to police thinking it will help them (regardless of guilt/innocence).
By far the majority of people questioned by police and ultimately prosecuted/convicted began by making admissions in some form or another.
Some will admit and confess to their actions, though not many fall into this group.
Most will attempt to validate/justify their actions, thinking if they can make it sound "reasonable" they might be let go.
They usually do this by giving a narrative that closely resembles the truth of what occurred, but changing the part that makes them criminally responsible.
Talking to the police, innocent or guilty, limits your ability to later change your defense.
This just gives police the ability to pick apart any plausible defense, element by element, and negate a persons defense in order to achieve a conviction.
Damn that's the coolest kid is school for sure
3:02 The officer is such a liar. He is trying to make it an order while not ordering the id. Honestly, he should be guilty for even continuing the questions.
The cop looking up laws is hilarious
At least he wasn't a prick and didn't want to break the law. That was a good enough cop in my opinion
Police in America have way shorter training times than in Europe for example, so that partly explains their lack of knowledge. But it's good on him for making sure and admitting he's in the wrong.
@ApexBizSolutions Yeah same thoughts here. I mean good job on Joels part, but the cop seemed pretty chill; Didn't pretend he was correct or put himself in a higher position or anything, just doin his job, not sure how he showed up in a corrupt cops video. If anything Joel kinda seemed more douch-y..? Can't say the same as the other cops though...
literally "oh, so you're a cop? Name every law" wtf is wrong with y'all
@typeouetco1626
You don't think he should have known this law?
On the last guy... He asked for a lawyer, twice. The cop even acknowledged it but never got him a lawyer? Sounds like a gross violation!
Read the Miranda
@G58 Miranda says 1) You have the right to remain silent. 2) (MOST Improtant) Anything you say can AND WILL be used agaist you in court. 3) You have the right to an attorney.
Miranda doesn't guarantee or compel the cops will give you one. The court actually has to order one to take your case. They can still ask questions. Not good for their case but, they can. There will be no penalty for refusing to answer them. If you choose to, that's on you.
Once you ask for a lawyer after you've been mirandaized and arrested, they cannot ask you any more questions at all.
They kept bringing him back to his cell and would let him withdraw. He came back one time because it sounds like they promised him methadone, and the second time because they offered him a coke. Thats why the detective kept marandizing him, he was treating it like a "new" interaction, instead of what it really was. A junkie going through withdrawal and he was trying to take advantage of him feeling weaker, except Jeff didn't break. It's really slimy when you think about how this is probably a common practice
They have all kinds of tactics to get around even that.
Example: you say "I want a lawyer before I answer any more questions." They say, "that just means you said you would have liked to have one, not that you're requesting one. I can say I want to be a billionaire, I'm obviously not requesting a billion dollars."
There are many examples of them playing these kinds of semantics. Sometimes it even actually holds up in court, sometimes it doesn't. But even if it doesn't, you've still been jammed up for however long they want to fuck with you, and they face no repercussions.
It's all a game and the game is rigged.
I love that fuggin badass kid let's GOOO!
Who's the loser that called the cops on a college student for having alcohol?!
And why is that forbidden in the first place? Selling alcohol to underage is the actual crime in most other countries
@deathm00n2my question too
I don't think there is law against minors having alcohol in my country, but if someone sold it to underage, man, that would suck for them
Though strange thing with drug laws, illegal to store/conceal/produce them, nothing said about selling them. Is that just "pass the hot potato" law?
I searched it up and apparently it is a crime, it's called minor in possession@XDrotkon
@deathm00n2 honest answer
Romen soldiers weren't punished for stealing from Farmers, they were punished for getting caught
Same here. Universities are fraternities
And Americans wonder why most kids fail education there 😂
If the body camera gets turned off or the footage doesnt show up in court then the cop needs to be sued for damaging evidence
hey
The fact that everyone can hear them cheering and high fiveing. They rock
🤣🤣
"Yo watch this video and represent me in court, ill give you 5%"
Lawyer Probably: "ight bet"
12:17 Cop:*yapping* dude: "stfu" What a chad
Nah he was an annoying prick
At least respect someone who is keeping you safe.
I am not American but I don’t understand these stupid laws
@AltOurCumrade get your head out of your ass there is no one keeping anyone safe there its two pigs getting their EGOs hurt and being snowflakes if you dont understand law and why its not okay to detain people because the voices in your head told you so you can refrain from commenting about it
@AltOurCumrade i mean yeah it's kinda wierd i don't see the point in flipping off a Police oficer it can only bring you trouble even tho it's not against the law
@AltOurCumradeyou aren’t American. They are not keeping us safe bro
@AltOurCumrade You think these self-righteous scumbags that say shit like "no one's going to help you" as if they are kidnapping the guy are gonna keep *anyone* safe?
Telling a cop to "stfu" is crazy work
In a world like this can you blame him?
and lawful
Right, like even though it's clearly lawful it's still a life-endangering act knowing how these tyrants act on the streets.
They should be told that way more often
not really .. ?
7:23 Bro's lawyer is rubbing his hands together like a Disney villain 😭
“Says whoo?” “says me” oh that was the wrong dialog option like the worst one honestly 😂
7:00 That laughter as they enter the apartment is peak
As someone from the UK, it is crazy that university students cannot drink alcohol legally.
Yeah this always gets me i go like wtf every time then i remember especially when you consider people start drinking mid to high school here
They can, however, take out tens of thousands of dollars in loans and join the military. Clown show.
i would ve expected the guy that lives in a police state to be amazed at the fact americans can stand their ground but no, he s amazed at the fact 18 year olds cant drink alcohol.
@chris4989
Although the Tories are trying to turn the UK into a police state, it's not there yet...
The students are old enough to vote, so they're old enough to drink!
@jerry2357 Australia beat you to that. Police officers in most states do not need a warrant to enter your home, just reasonable suspicion that their presence might be needed on the property.
Experienced this first hand when I had three plain clothed detectives jump the construction fence on my father's property, circle around the house like common criminals peeking into our windows through the curtain gaps and eventually breaking in through the french doors and destroying them before announcing that they were searching for my brother, still not identifying that they were officers, I simply shouted at them to get off my property and barricaded myself into my room. All three of them then proceeded to force entry into my room and pinned me down, reading me my rights until one of them said "He doesn't look like the kid."
Mind you I'm the eldest brother of three and the one they were after is my junior by a whole decade, has a completely different hair style, different hair colour, different eye colour, he's shorter than me and has a smaller frame/build than me. Didn't stop these 'heroes' from scaring the shit out of me and making me think my dad had borrowed money from thugs who were there to collect on payments until at long last one shouted in my ear "We are police, who are you? Identify yourself!" All I remember at that point through the fear and tears in my eyes was shouting "My wallet is in my bedside table,"
Didn't get an apology the station didn't pay for the $3000 in damages, or even mention the fact they traumatised a 25 year old who had prior to the incident been recovering from a sickness.
It was that incident alone that taught me never to trust the police, never give them anything they don't have the right to and n ever believe anything that comes out of their mouthes, they are no different to the criminals you dodge in city alleys, just dressed nicely and put through government training to become thugs.
9:02 "No one will help you" Bone-chilling stuff, especially with the context that he turned his body cam off shortly after. Makes the "I was checking to see if you were okay" facade the cop pitches later even more hollow than it already was. Pulling over out of genuine concern betrays a fundamental difference in character from that borne out by the footage. This is something that should wake you up if you're the one saying it, and I sincerely hope that man recognized this moment in his life as an opportunity to transform into an actual civil servant and good man. God bless, stay safe, and great work to the lads in this video, very grateful that they're alright.
Anyone who still thinks the cops are the good guys are in for a nasty surprise one day.
@aaronmicalowe Their history of evolving out of the slave patrols of the South still shows.
@aaronmicalowe so if you gonna be a victim of a crime, you wont call police, right?
@Jack0f4lltrades Fuck no! Are you insane?
@Jack0f4lltrades "The police are overmilitarized and taking away funds from crime prevention while operating under a legal framework that enables and does not respond adequately to abuses of power and it would make everyones lives better to restructure law enforcement so our public servants have to be held accountable instead of being allowed to get away with extrajudicially killing people they don't like and maybe our tax dollars can keep more people who are mentally ill and homeless and addicts off the streets so they aren't committing crimes in the first place instead of paying for assault rifles and SWAT teams"
does not mean
"i have to swear abstinence from utilizing any facet of this system intended to be a public service that is also literally taking my money to fund itself whenever i buy groceries"
Had to laugh at 6:45 when the only thing on the cop’s note pad is “Joel”.
😂😂
"So, what'd you get on that supposed underage drinking?"
(looks at notepad)
"j o e l"
Why does it look like some cartoon scene
"hehe, joel"
Imagine he goes into the station and just says "Joel" and Joel gets arrested
HOME BOY: I dont answer questions!
Police: Do you have an I.D.???
HOME BOY: *YES*
There seriously needs to be a law making it illegal for cops to blatantly lie during an interrogation to coerce a suspect into admitting to something. Way too many innocent citizens have been intimidated and coerced into admitting to something they didn’t do because the cops lied about something else.
Eat one. The Supreme Court ruled that it is legal to lie to to suspects about the material facts of a case.
i agree its very weird that thats legal
@wiebahh5304
Not really, it's no different than other tactics such as undercover work. What it does mean is that you should remember to say nothing until you are charged and they are forced to publish any evidence they do or do not have. That is true even in countries with fewer protections than the US. It's their job to gather evidence and not yours to supply it if accused. Let them make arses of themselves and cost the taxpayer a fortune then if not charged litigate for wrongful arrest or if charged dump your alibi/counter evidence down their throats. Costing them money is the first port of call when they misbehave, often it's the only satisfaction you'll ever get. BTW, why are most US cops obese?
@Trackside1234 Yeah, but it is abused by detectives using this tactic on shit they know is no big deal and they KNOW is wrong. It's helped get alot of people, but its a double-edged sword. Your an authority figure in the biggest power dynamic possible in the nation. Out of the gate suspects are weak and liable to manipulation.
@darthwiizius , size matters in a fight. A 350 pound guy will usually beat a 250 pound guy especially if they go to the ground. That 100 pound difference doesn’t have to be all muscle to work. That’s why there are weight classes in boxing and wrestling.
"Your honor, the lad hurt my feewings"
That law student set those cops up and they took that bait. Even warned them they wouldn’t have qualified immunity.
In the first clip when they started celebrating and high fiving loud in the room while the cop had to stand there I was dying😂
"Wham. Bam. Thank ya for the coke. Throw me back in the cell."
Greatest line ever😂
In other words he told the Detective to STFU., WHY ?? STUPIDITY AND LOW, LOW ,LOW LOW I.Q.
Get some education
He should’ve said “back in the cell mam”
@BigDaddy-je2nq They knew their I.Q. was down the toilet dealing with this guy. No evidence , STFU I'll see you in my cell
Get me some COKE LOL
he gets some respect for preferring coca cola.
Cop - "stay out the road don't give us the finger"
Young lad - "Shut the fuck up"
Great response
😂😂
😂😂😂
😂😂😂
The thing is, I don’t like cops and i literally do everything in my power to not have to interact with them. At the same time though I don’t like most auditors because they go out of their way to be d*cks and provoke the police. There are also good auditors who know how to expose bad police without being jerky.
😂😂
I mean why is he just flipping him off and swearing at him for no reason
And we encourage this?
Sure it's unlawful what the cops did
But it's not like they brutalized em,
It suddenly gave him the right to be an absolute asshole an
d he is justified?
the law student kid treated that like a test lmaoooo
i hope he got some extra credit for it LOL
im not into law but i dont quite understand. if he is suspected cause someone report it. it is not enough ground to do a check? what else do you need to do that? surveillance footage to catch redhanded? like how much ground do you need to make it a 'lawful order'? policing in the states seems like a nightmare and i guess that's why crime is frequent as well
@lmquan082Reasonable suspicion isn't some mystical foreign word from a language you don't speak, look it up yourself
@LennyMiller739 Tool
@lmquan082 Someone saw someone bringing in alcohol... that's pretty weak evidence...
It's also a bit stupid of you to talk about what's happening in the States when someone brought beer into a dorm room...
And the fact that the police don't have the same rights as in totalitarian countries and most post-communist countries is good in my opinion.
In Poland, the police in a small town can come in and search non-stop because someone claims that someone has kidnapped their cat and is keeping it in their apartment...
The only thing I don't like is the fact that in the US you can use vulgar words towards a police officer... that is not optimal in my opinion.
Joel is the reason people get their heads thumped 😂
Contrary to what Law and Order tells you, when you’re a cop and a suspect asks for a lawyer, you shut up, you end the interview, and you see to it that they get a lawyer. Keeping the conversation going is a great way to lose your job and your pension.
It's very hard for them to do because 90% of them out there thrive on "superior ego". That's why they went into law enforcement to begin with.
@matthewmoore7447 qualified immunity was and has always been a mistake. Even when it was argued in court the judges thought it was too braod....its just time consuming and financially consuming to uproot qualified immunity in most states.
@shanghunter7697 At the very least, when they do lawyer up, the case gets thrown out and the county/state usually has to pay a pretty penny for their malpractice.
if only they ccouldn't just go get rehired at another precinct and get that pension back...
@amidalaprin4846 Pensions are just another form of retirement plans. Generally speaking, whether they get a new job or not, they are getting what has been laid out for them once they hit retirement age.
The kid who flipped the bird is based AF. Impressive.
I feel terrible for Jeff.
Balls of steel
Kudos to him because most addicts will fold when they start withdrawing. He stayed strong
@chpenney26him and addiction are old friends, you can tell he's been in the game awhile
He's an idiot
Flipping off a cop isn't as bad ass as everyone thinks.
that second kid realizing his power and telling those cops off was incredible
Still screw him, disrespectful ill bred brat.
but doesnt it annoy you? like why did he js point the middle finger for no reason??
@yaseensalie2550 Fr fvcking real
@yaseensalie2550exactly what I’m saying
@yaseensalie2550why become a cop if you get genuinely angry at something as irrevelant as someone verbally disrespecting you? If you really wanna defend your pride you can just badmouth them back, y'know?
The kids that flipped the cops off was hilarious
Being a university cop, hassling 20 year old people for drinking a beer, must be the worst, most meaningless job in the world.
Keeping us safe from beer drinking college students...I live in an area with a lot of colleges/universities/academies, it's called the 5 college area but idk why, there's a lot more than that! Perhaps because several are quite notable. But, lots and lots of students in a more rural area so...students & farmers, odd combo? We understand that drinking beer in your college years is the right time to do it? It's when you're drinking like a 20 year old and you're in your 30's or older it becomes a problem. Not drinking & driving tho, that's not cool. Bad idea all around.
You think this sounds clever, but who commits the most dui and other alcohol related crimes?
They’re keeping kids safe as much as hassling, but you’re probably smarter than everyone here and thought this through already.
When I was an Auburn student University police didn't give a shit about alcohol as long as no one was drinking and driving
@jarrodschuck6021 My local city, Sheffield, has 2 universities and 65,000 students. As far as I can tell, they all drink. Freshers week can get a little messy, but mostly they quickly realise they have to ration the student loan.
Wednesdays, after the BUCS sporting events, can be a little noisy, particularly the rugby teams, but mostly they are as good as gold and the cops leave them well alone, they have real criminals to chase.
Imagine: they know your name is Joel, and you live in residence.. and they have your room number, but somehow they need your ID to figure out who you are.
The cops got their FEELINGS hurt from being flipped off so THEY cause a disturbance and blame him for it.
some people become cops because they want to be unconditionally respected above everyone else. so when you show them the slightest hint of disrespect they go crazy and often lose their jobs. funny but also sad for the people that are incorrectly treated like a criminals
Most cops I know quit. The only one I can't verify quit was the guy we found face down on our front lawn after a party.
Just typical cops really
"if he did have beer in his room, he definitely deserves it now" absolute fire 😂😂
Them cheers and high fives was the icing on the cake
The kid yelling help definitely stunlocked the cop 😅
6:45 The Notepad that just says "Joel" and nothing else i'm CACKLING. Excellent detective work officer you learned so much information from your harassment
lmao
I hadn't even seen it, that is perfect!!?!
That shi hilarious
"CLUES: "
He could have asked the dorm RA (probably the Karen with the lanyard seen later in the video) who "Joel" was and she would have spilled the beans - she is probably the one that called. But these days cops never seem to start their "investigation" with the caller.
A college student having alcohol in their room is like a library having books.
And conservatives/authoritarians take issue with both! 🤣
I have a kid with mild autism and have instructed him to politely decline to answer any questions from a law enforcement officer and to demand we be present if they continue to ask questions. We know how corrupt cops try to manipulate suggestible individuals into confessing things they have not done.
This reminded me of the story of a undercover cop who manipulated a mentally challenged student into helping a friend find weed and then charged the poor kid :(
Read up on the West Memphis Three. The cops there did exactly what you're talking about.
Rather than tell him to demand you be present you need to tell him to demand a lawyer - “I will not answer any questions or make any statements I request my attorney” - demanding parents be present is not enshrined in the constitution. But having an attorney is….
As a person with autism, who has been through the process of being arrested over a misunderstanding - what you're teaching is incredibly stupid. "Mommy and Daddy" aren't gonna be a factor in a cell. Between arrest and court, you won't even see him.
Prepare the guy for how to handle police interaction, don't just.. "demand you be present" because that's not a legal requirement even in places with very progressive mental health policy. If you're under arrest, you don't have the right to demand anything except a lawyer. Teach him to do that.
Also, the blanket "answer no questions" is kinda stupid, too. Say, for example, cops are searching your residential area at night for an active at-large criminal, and you're outside smoking or something, one of them shines a light in your face and asks who you are and why you're there, you're going to make your situation really bad for yourself by not just dropping your name and stating your business. "Don't answer questions" kinda depends on the circumstances. Suspicion of guilt? Silence. Confirming you're not who they're looking for? Answer away
Keep them out of Texas.
the second cop has the mental resilience of a toddler
He asked for a lawyer, every question the cops asked him after that was a violation of his rights.
Standard operating procedure for many cops. They are hunters. They hunt us.
Asking for a lawyer is not enough. You have to keep silent after that, or repeat that you want a lawyer.
That's the only thing left you shoud say untill you actually get a lawyer.
Just stick with absolute silence.@Robbedem
No. They can ask as much as they want.
@gregkasza1925 That also drives the ego driven criminals absolutely crazy, iv'e done it 3 times in the last few yrs now. Always keep thy pie hole closed, blows my mind when i see these videos and the masses just rambling on......unreal !
If you're a cop that gets triggered by a kid giving the finger, you're in the wrong job by far. That cop's a lawsuit waiting to happen . Yet another wonderful tyrant the whole area has to deal with until perpetuating the worst of policing..
Yeah, it was funny that the cop asked him why he gave him the finger. Then proceeds to show why the kid gave him the finger.😅
Wouldn’t give the cop the finger if someone was kicking his door in. Would be crying for help
@bluemoon7886 No one is kicking his door in. Woulda wanta whatevera.
More cops probably kick doors in than crooks anyway
@mattrobinson1669 don’t kick them in for nothing
Plot twist he did have beer. Non alcohol beer to troll the karens.
It’s like he was teaching the cops the law😂😂😂😂