Saying Vendetta manaburns is quite misleading, since mana burn also deals damage scaled with the mana burnt so it's extra potent against Medusa. Vendetta only remove 50% mana pool, which is still ~50% Medusa's health, though
@@ehrenromblon5392 no she is useless now, because valve sucks again. They made mana shield to block damage after armor reduction, but they fucked up and didn't do that...
For those wondering why this happens: Medusas mana shield is coded in a (at least after 7.33 release, before it was coded in a different way) way that there is a 99.9% chance that i absolutely have no idea what im talking about and you're being jebaited
its so bad because now,even if axe banned,medusa got really really hard countered by mana burn (not like before,even if she ran out of mana she still have 2k-3k hp,but now even at lv30 only 400 hp)
So is it her fault she didn’t have shield on or is that no longer a thing. Only got to play 1 game on the new patch have to wait till morrow till I can play a bunch so don’t know yet.
Buy strength treads and 2 bracers early, easy. By the time axe is level 18 you probably have other stat items. Her shield absorbs 98% damage now (70% before) and the multiplier is increased, it's also passive now so AM and breaks are the only counters.
@@magus5425 Break still doesn't affect it, despite Mana Shield being a passive. It's the same thing as with Reincarnation, also a passive yet not breakable.
This is the stupidest change in the entirety of dota, I've never seen anything so poorly thought like this change. Icefrog did a riot games level of change
yeah i dunno wtf they were thinking with this change. Medusa is unplayable now, she was already hard countered by mana burn strats but if she got a satanic she could still fight. Not anymore.
Honestly. I have absolutely no idea how they thought these Medusa changes were neccessary. Ive immedately understood, once ive read through the patch notes, that they havent thought this through.
A free marketing strategy from valve, again. They're not this dumb, in fact, they're that smart. Intentional funny errors/mistakes, more content shared, more viewer reach, more players coming, more revenue.
Its really big nerf XD No matter how big her dmg reduction is, mana burn still her biggest enemy. And now with HP that less than a creep, i feel sorry for her XD
@@facefullvoid7273 you forgot shadow demon with agh. that literally breaks medusa shield even with bkb activated, turns her into a creep even in late game with high stat items
@@facefullvoid7273 weird because if it was a passive ultimate I would expect it more likely to not work, like tiny ult, but I think IceFrog intentionally made it unbreakable because otherwise medusa would be a completely useless hero
What do you mean? Read Axe's skill description. If a target has below 250-450HP, the target is killed, unconditionally (even through Shallow Grave/False Promise/Borrowed time etc). Now Medusa has 420HP on lvl 30, go figure.
@@ojas51 she no longer has strength as an attribute and has million intelligence so she will have 100 HP and 1000 Mana, level 1 also 98% damage absorption by her mana shield
you literally cant comeback with medusa even if she is designed to be late game hero... enemy just have to trilane in medusa lane.. and forcing ur team to trilane too to protect medusa.. you need to babysit medusa for 20 mins to at least make an impact on 40 mins game lol.. at least that is the situation on every crusader and archon games.. medusa will make an impact around 30-40 mins but thats not even sure cuz the first 20 mins is important for babysitting..
nah they (icefrog) just take away all medusa's strength value (it's literally 0) so if you play medusa buy strength or your max hp is so low even axe can chop you at full hp
If you are stupid enough to be countered by axe as medusa you deserve to lose. Treads (STR) alone can stop him from culling you with lvl 1 and 2 ults. Match id: 7116578656 Not once did he change the treads attribute to STR #HeraldProblems
They should have made this DOTA 3, with heroes and items with mana break and burns, medusa is completely useless, unbreakable manashield? Yes it wont disappear, but what if she has no mana?what's the use of that unbreakable manashield,?where will it get the mana to reduce the damages?in her ass?and you have no choice but to build items like heart and etc., and you will absolutely have no damage
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And there's also a Nyx who can burn half of Meduza's max mana just with his ult...
Damn, dark times have come for Duza
Manaburn of nyx is no longer in the game, btw
@@kelnmiirkageoni1667 Nyx burns 50% of the target he hits when he hits out of Vendetta
@@kelnmiirkageoni1667 Vendetta deals manaburn now
nyx is never a last pick i swear dota players are retarded there is not a single situation you would play dusa against nyx.
Saying Vendetta manaburns is quite misleading, since mana burn also deals damage scaled with the mana burnt so it's extra potent against Medusa. Vendetta only remove 50% mana pool, which is still ~50% Medusa's health, though
lv 30 itemless Medusa has 428HP.
RIP.
She's actually more tanky, lose to breaks and antimage though.
@@ehrenromblon5392 no she is useless now, because valve sucks again. They made mana shield to block damage after armor reduction, but they fucked up and didn't do that...
@@michelsala8835 She will be too tanky if you combine the armor and and the shield multiplier.
@@ehrenromblon5392 but this is in skill description, check it out, but in reality they didn't do this
wtf, what have they done to her
Lion could literally life drain dusa now
For those wondering why this happens:
Medusas mana shield is coded in a (at least after 7.33 release, before it was coded in a different way) way that there is a 99.9% chance that i absolutely have no idea what im talking about and you're being jebaited
its so bad because now,even if axe banned,medusa got really really hard countered by mana burn
(not like before,even if she ran out of mana she still have 2k-3k hp,but now even at lv30 only 400 hp)
What's her level 1 HP start from now? 100 HP? So basically her HP is Mana now? I don't play Dota 2 anymore. But I'm curious.
@@BullyMaguire387 Dear man, start hp = 120 + 2 power(40hp) from each level up after 18 lvl
@@jandurgun5995 Oh okay thank you.
@@BullyMaguire387 medusa r8 now has no str gain (same like tiny with no agi gain), so her starting hp is low af
So is it her fault she didn’t have shield on or is that no longer a thing. Only got to play 1 game on the new patch have to wait till morrow till I can play a bunch so don’t know yet.
Could you imagine if she was your hero on ability draft without mana shield? 😂
Yes, i can. Even without shield she have decent agility and intelligence so magic and speed-dependant builds are fine.
@@iivanov6006 trash
@@iivanov6006 with 120 hp? quick stun and 2 attacks and you're finished.
I feel like she might keep it as a passive because she has the 1 innate level
@@iivanov6006 every ult with more than 500 dmg will kill you instantly loll
Buy strength treads and 2 bracers early, easy. By the time axe is level 18 you probably have other stat items. Her shield absorbs 98% damage now (70% before) and the multiplier is increased, it's also passive now so AM and breaks are the only counters.
wait what haha i didnt think of break iyem. if break meduz just paper hahaha
Break doesn't affect her shield
@@bill5334he said its a passive if thats the case break does counter shield
@@magus5425 Break still doesn't affect it, despite Mana Shield being a passive. It's the same thing as with Reincarnation, also a passive yet not breakable.
Pure dmg on the culling blade.
Dusa is now spec. Useless till end game.
Just build stat items as usual(Dragon Lance, Manta, Skadi etc) and she's completely fine. She's even more jacked now with that buffed mana shield.
exactly all these comments are so dumb lmao
What about before she gets those items? Just get one shotted by axe? Do medusa start with like 100 hp or smthing?
@@avgvstvs7 Except you can break her manashield now and she is just a creep then.
@@Ozist0088 you get treads before axe gets level 6 you cannot be oneshot ever.
@@igorkonforovich3497 you cannot break manashield, its a innate ability
This is the stupidest change in the entirety of dota, I've never seen anything so poorly thought like this change. Icefrog did a riot games level of change
nice 5 carry lineup
Axe's ulti is PURE DAMAGE
IGNORES MAGIC AND PHYSICAL DEFENCE EVEN SHIELDS
yeah i dunno wtf they were thinking with this change. Medusa is unplayable now, she was already hard countered by mana burn strats but if she got a satanic she could still fight. Not anymore.
satanic is practically useless on her, need bloodstone magic build ig
next patch base hp medusa increase to 700 xD
waiting to see anyone's gonna try warlock shard + techies scepter + undying tombstone
Dota have a new patch, but still Beta game
Lion will just jukes his mana
Total messy Bugg
Honestly. I have absolutely no idea how they thought these Medusa changes were neccessary. Ive immedately understood, once ive read through the patch notes, that they havent thought this through.
Yea I feel they just doing some experiment
Yeah right valve didn't think this through while you, some random dude on RUclips, thinks he knows better
@@cowboyga1 Judging not only from Dota 2, but all other competitive games - devs much likely really didn't think this through
Just have to play around it
I didnt believe my teammate earlier when he told me I could do this the moment I hit level 6
Could've gotten free armor ._.
I mean.. click her HP pool and you wouldn't have to believe anyone. Lmao
@9.5kMMR yeah lmao thats my skeptic ass being stupid rofl
A free marketing strategy from valve, again. They're not this dumb, in fact, they're that smart. Intentional funny errors/mistakes, more content shared, more viewer reach, more players coming, more revenue.
But we dont care, we want to hit that R button on medusa head. More armor.
Just checked. Medusa lvl 1 got 120 HP???? The fuck??? And so she can easily be destroy with pure dmg from start?
Its really big nerf XD
No matter how big her dmg reduction is, mana burn still her biggest enemy.
And now with HP that less than a creep, i feel sorry for her XD
creep : how the fk we arent hero, yet? look at her, 400 hp in frikin lv 30
icefrog: yeap, rightlick core they dont need strength when they afk in jungle with auto attack, they need more agi to get more right click
Wtf does pure damage have anything to do with it?
manashield from any kind of damage
Look how they massacred my girl
Medusa got screwed over in this patch
Hahahaha that’s me I made it
what's the point in taking outposts? aren't they useless now?
I just play a match where dusa got deleted in 4 crits against jugg mjollnir and diffu, rofl
Is that really so much a problem to build 2 bracers and PT till lvl 6? Or buy the red booster and later on conver it to aeon disk? Sheesh...
medusa early really need babysitter
its not a bug, medusa has base strength is 0
What happened? Why??
She spends mana on casting skills, now as her HP
I dont care one bit about that hero farm 30 min
Yah, only base attribute has number now 🤣🤣 no wonder
Its ez to fix just make %dmg back
ok valve wtf
Is this dota 3?
Just got fixed
the problem is
its not bug
without axe and am. medusa is almost unkillable
Laughs in nyx and lion 😂
Diffusal blade? Injoker's EMP? Lion's mana drain? Nyx's new vendetta?
@@facefullvoid7273 you forgot shadow demon with agh. that literally breaks medusa shield even with bkb activated, turns her into a creep even in late game with high stat items
@@Matchleader i just tested it, mana shield passive isn't breakable. Like WK reincarnation.
@@facefullvoid7273 weird because if it was a passive ultimate I would expect it more likely to not work, like tiny ult, but I think IceFrog intentionally made it unbreakable because otherwise medusa would be a completely useless hero
This just feels.... wrong
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This patch is crud. Just played two games and went back to uninstalling the shit. Will never play this game ever again.
Medusa meta is buy taras dan satanic
How is this posible?
What do you mean? Read Axe's skill description. If a target has below 250-450HP, the target is killed, unconditionally (even through Shallow Grave/False Promise/Borrowed time etc). Now Medusa has 420HP on lvl 30, go figure.
@@igorkonforovich3497why 420hp only? Am i missing something?
@@ojas51 read patch note. dusa has no strength now.
@@ojas51 she no longer has strength as an attribute and has million intelligence so she will have 100 HP and 1000 Mana, level 1 also 98% damage absorption by her mana shield
@@ojas51 The video is about 7.33 patch. Guess what you are missing - patchotes. Dusa has now 0 base Str and 0 Str growth, like Tiny had with Agi.
Seeing enemy pick medusa:
My team : go dagon 😄😄
It doesnt work that way though
what the league of shit happening ? how much base HP medusa have ? icetequilafrog fix incoming
read patch notes, medusa literally has no STR and no STR gain.
Now medusa is realy bad
you literally cant comeback with medusa even if she is designed to be late game hero... enemy just have to trilane in medusa lane.. and forcing ur team to trilane too to protect medusa.. you need to babysit medusa for 20 mins to at least make an impact on 40 mins game lol.. at least that is the situation on every crusader and archon games.. medusa will make an impact around 30-40 mins but thats not even sure cuz the first 20 mins is important for babysitting..
Bug ?
no... medua 0 starting strengh in lvl 1
nah they (icefrog) just take away all medusa's strength value (it's literally 0) so if you play medusa buy strength or your max hp is so low even axe can chop you at full hp
nope, i just checked, medusa's HP is so small right now due to the revamped mana shield
No. Read patch notes.
😂😂
Do you just hang out on reddit the whole day?
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medusa is a joke now so is this new patch
Have you ever asked for a new patch this year?
Average Right click players crying about a right click hero having no STR and getting executed by a culling blade.
Still in beta guys
wtf hahaha
If you are stupid enough to be countered by axe as medusa you deserve to lose. Treads (STR) alone can stop him from culling you with lvl 1 and 2 ults. Match id: 7116578656 Not once did he change the treads attribute to STR #HeraldProblems
They should have made this DOTA 3, with heroes and items with mana break and burns, medusa is completely useless, unbreakable manashield? Yes it wont disappear, but what if she has no mana?what's the use of that unbreakable manashield,?where will it get the mana to reduce the damages?in her ass?and you have no choice but to build items like heart and etc., and you will absolutely have no damage