BARZAKH | EPISODE 3 | FAWAD KHAN, SANAM SAEED, SALMAN SHAHID
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Full Episode 3 | BARZAKH | Fawad Khan, Sanam Saeed, Salman Shahid
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A 76-year old reclusive man who runs a resort in a remote valley, invites his estranged children and grandchildren over, to celebrate his life’s grand finale - a wedding with the ghost of his first true love.
Cast:
Salman Shahid
Fawad Khan: / fawadkhan81
Sanam Saeed: / sanammody
M. Fawad Khan: / fawadkhan1984
Khushhal Khan: / khushhalk
Arham Syed: / arhamsyeddd
Anika Zulfikar: / anikazulfikar
Sajid Hasan: / sajidhasan_
Eman Suleman: / eman_suleman
Nighat Chaudhry: / nighatchaudhryofficial
Uzma Beg: / uzmabeg
Franco Giusti: / franco.giusti.17
Meesum Naqvi: / meesamnazar
Faiza Gillani: / faizagillani
Muhammad Shah: / iamtheshah
Imam Syed: / imamsyedofficial
Kulsoom Aftab: / kulsoomaftab
Tehreem Hameed: / tehreem_ali_hameed
Writer & Director:
Asim Abbasi: / a_abbasi
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This is a mythological drama. It’s pure fiction based on realistic themes, comparable to works of Shakespeare. The son is fighting his gay desires. LGBTQ community exists in Pakistan whether you want to admit it or not. Premarital sex exists in Pakistan whether you want to admit it or not. Pretending it doesn’t exist won’t make it go away. Islam is nowhere mentioned here. Yes, it’s a Pakistani audience where majority are Muslim. But these characters are all mythical and fictional creatures. No, it’s not a family drama and no, it’s not meant for children to watch. Simple as that. It’s targeted towards an adult artistic audience who understand mythical literature and abstract metaphors. Most people in Pakistan don’t fall in that audience unfortunately they would rather watch the stereotypical second wife or saas bahu bullshit. Stay within your bubble and don’t watch this drama if you’re going to take it literally or personally. People in Pakistan would rather live their double life, be gay in secret and have a wife for the world to see with children. This is shining light on taboo subjects we don’t dare to ever utter.
Totally agree with you.
Such dumb and weak reasons you have
It's very ironic how many moral policemen we see in comments while Pakistan happens to be a leading country in watching porn. You can expect this sort of hypocrisy only from Pakistan and Pakistanis.
Perfect analysis
Hope you give exactly this response in your grave. Wish your parents had given you atleast some islamic knowledge. Your blunt words cannot convince us to go against our dear Deen and the teachings of our Prophet (PBUH).
Maturity is when you can’t understand in this story but you are still watching because you want to prove yourself that you are very intelligent and you know what is going on in this story and you are so smart 😂😂
Chris Nolan ki movies ki fandom ki tarah 😂😂
😂
@@eishalzaib4058 😂 Maturity also is when you know you are too intelligent to watch such shit and then you don't watch it.
😂 truuuue
how eishal felt after commenting this:🗿😎🦅😛🥰
It's a drama based on surreality. A fantasy maybe. It is vague. I am watching it out of curiosity because the concept is new and intriguing. Many things in this drama don't have any connection with real life except maybe the pain of losing loved ones.
It's not the pain. It's pain of our own mistakes.. Ap ka kia hamesha agy ata ha. Ap ka bojh. Wo tamam larkiyan hain jo mardon k nazrandazi ka shikar hvi r us ka asar agy tk chala. Es daramy main sab ka ek past ha ek raaz hai.
Sherezaad is the daughter of Mahtaab and Jafar, that much is proven. However, she was born in the 'other' world, not the one in which Jafar lives. Mahtab returned her after 30 years, which is why Jafar is almost her father's age. The Shaman was the one who took her in and gave her to Jafar.
Also, the stones the souls are carrying on the back get chipped when they do a good deed. For instance, the girl and the boy at the restaurant were not talking to each other. Jaffar's wives, unconsciously, nudged them to talk to each other; that's why the rock chipped. So, maybe, if they do enough good deeds, their stones will be completely gone, and they will pass on to the other world.
Also, this is The Land of Nowhere. Meaning, nothing normal happens here. It's not Pakistan, Islam, and as far as I believe, the characters aren't even Muslim. That said, I am not enjoying Saifullah's storyline. Asim Abbas always believes that he has a quota to fill. He did that in Churails as well. Showing these characters exist isn't bad. They do. But giving them a love story is completely wrong, no matter which angle you look at it. Yes, we see them in international shows, but they're not catered toward the Pakistani audience. This was, and Asim should've been careful.
Wow
@@nosheen.islam.officialYou made me understand the episode 😅
And even the love story was fine the almost kiss was not! It was disgusting
saifullah's character is best of them all. his sexuality have become a huge source of pain for him all his life, his insecurities grew because of it and with him murdering his own mother. Why do we have to just be offensive about everything. Asim haven't shown a single inapporpriate thing. He has just shown struggle of a man trying not to act on his desires. Pakistani's love to close their eyes to reality but if you look around you will surely find an example of someone like Saifullah.
Even though I agree homosexuality angle wasn't needed yet I feel this was the best way to showcase the internal turmoil of Saif's character. His desire for other men can be understood through the lenses of his deprivation and logging for his father's love. The guilt of having a secret this bad gives reason to his other behaviour too. He indeed the most interesting and complex character of the play.
What I don't understand about people in the comment section is this obsession with Netflix.
Why should Netflix pick up "Barzakh" when its already on an OTT platform called "Zee5" which had 48.11 million paid users and is available in 190+ countries.
It's already on an OTT why do you want it to go on another OTT?
Free episodes on RUclips are hurting this much so you wanna watch by paying subscription fees.
Love from India❤
shayad awam ko lgta hai k sb sy bara validation netflix hi hai 😂 is liye ..
Exactly ye log pagal hn. Inko lgta he k every popular show must be on Netflix. Or jo Netflix pe nhi aye ga woh acha nhi hoga
Bcoz many people think that only content on Netflix is worth watching…. 😂 anyways this drama is excellent art
a lot of zee5 shows are actually shit, whereas netflix may have some bad shows but they have a bigger budget and cast leading to higher quality, so this belongs to the same league as netflix
sheheryar saying “Are you always this high? Believe me hum darakht nahin hain” cracked me up. The sarcasm. hahahah
Aaqa is not an innocent. He lost his first love but he snatched the lands of many poor villagers to construct his own empire in the Village.
@@ShaistaKhanum-jk1zw and he married twice 🤣🤣
@@amberawan1Bjgbhhn3 haan 2 shadiyan ker ke abhi abhi mehtab ko nahe bhool raha.... Itna he ranjha tha tau shadi kion ke
@@farazahmedCHexactly then he’s destroyed the lives of his wives n kids.
@@farazahmedCH i dnt like him
@@farazahmedCH doosri shaadi to taakat ke liye ki thi ( second episode me shuru me jo news clippings aayin thin )
Pehli shaadi jis se ki thi... She owned a big mango farm. Or maybe... He thought he could love again. But, he could not provide for them earnestly... And that is where his humanity and consciousness should make him stop. But... Well... Mahtab ki deevangani... Ab kya hi kahen. Even his sons are confused with his antics...
Barzakh ...
Soul commited sucide is free from one world but not able to go to real world or after world
Soul is burdened it is heavy to fly
Soul is hungry
People who are in this world but very greedy unsatisfied are physically here but soul is nowhere
Alive person soul is heavy not letting him to sleep or find peace...
Barzakh is a state of mind for living person
And for heavy soul who taste death before its time is a place to decrease his heaviness to become light to fly...
A masterpiece very well executed
Pr jiske bete ne use pillow se maar daala wo bhi to bhatak rhi. Usne to suicide nhi ki thi
Leeena n bh sucide nh kya@@fatmazehra5928
@@fatmazehra5928 could be because of their past sins, when they did a good dead a part of the stone broke off, so when they are fully unburdened they might go to heaven but until then they are trapped in barzakh
@@fatmazehra5928kyunke uss ne apney baitey ko hamesha neglect kiya .
@@fatmazehra5928par uske husband ne mara na apni wife ko. Pillow se
People who only can digest stories about Saas ki chalaki , dusari Aurat se mohabbat , rona dhoona typical and boring stuff ,or Husband ki bewafai ... All are going hysterical. 😂
masla yeh hai ke inn logon ko lag raha hai ke this drama is only about lgbt lekin iss se kahin zyada deep story hai
aur inn jaahilon ko yeh nahi dikh raha ke yeh gay character gay hone pe khush nahi?
aur yeh keh rahe hein yeh blasphemy kar raha hai drama jab yeh dikha rahe hein ke dead ones can come back or have connection they forget one thing THIS IS JUST PURE FICITON AND NOTHING IS INTENDED TO SHOW ITS REAL
aur yahi log hein jo kaisi teri khudgarzi, jaan nisar aur tere bin jaisi fazool dramas ko 50M views dete hein aur trending no.1 pe laate hein
LMAO 😭
Agreed - and having affairs with brother in laws and na mehrams is totally Islamic by the way which is why they are allowed - (sarcasm)
@@muhammadalyliaqat9215 That's the funny part. LMAO
@@muhammadalyliaqat9215 which drama was that?
This is for literature students, they will enjoy it. Loving to see salman shahid holding the whole plot on his shoulders. Giving king Lear vibes.
It reminds me of Shakespear's Hamlet & Othelo...
There is nothing hidden but untold yet.
Looking for this comment . Being myself a literature student 😂
Hahahha im a literature student and i can understand n interpret the message in the story clearly
Yeah those read between lines.
The lost daughters although it is said that they are called by mountains but the implicit meanings of this bulawa is actually that they committed suicide, because of all the injustice they faced.
And if we see story in this way, it becomes clear that Mahtab committed suicide because she was carrying the child of dada out of wedlock and society did not accept that.
mahtab's spirit is covered with blood, so I think the elders stabbed her in the stomach and told aaqa she committed suicide
@@nandinishah1709 yes that also makes sense. But there was a rope in Mahtab's room (it is shown when Shaherzad went to her room at 36). Possibly the people killed the child of Mahtab and later she committed suicide.
No Mehtab was definitely killed for bringing shame to the community. That is why Aaqa shows a lot of hate for the elders and says something like unn sabb ki haddian mere paon ke neeche hain.
I think these girls were either murdered or did suicide. The main point is the reason behind their deaths, that is the societal injustice.
@@chimmivso sanam is mahtab’s and aaqa’s daughter ?
Wake up folks. It's just a drama just watch it and get entertained. If you don't like don't watch then.
I am in awe of M. Fawad's acting (The guy playing Saifullah). Portraying emotions like guilt, grief and shame all at the same time is not easy specially when your character have very less dialogue but he has done mind blowing job.
he is phenomenal in this
He is the MVP of the series for now.
He is the reason I watch this show.
yes, it's sad to see how much hate he is getting
@@nandinishah1709 he's gay chiiiiiiiiii
dude loved her so much but he still plowed 2 other women after her and apparently is now crazy about her again tf
Lol, that's what I was thinking.
Such an @sshole he is Istg
😭😭😭
He’s opportunistic and self absorbed. He means to love but at his convenience and when it benefits him. He robbed his brother and Mehta both. Consumed.
He didn’t care about mehtaab she has become an obsession for him because he couldn’t give her that ugly gold necklace n she didn’t see what he became. Even when they were together he didn’t understand what she wanted but kept going on about how he will be rich.
I dont get it why everyone is complaining about the gay character? its just a character no one is glamorising it, or promoting it, they’re just showing his existence? how is it so wrong? does islam deny the existence of gay people? no? the guy in barzakh isnt even engaging in homosexual acts? its just a part of his existence is he supposed to stop existing?
👏👏👏
You know what I 💜 u like I was thinking the same thing but couldn't find words to say it but you did 🙌🏻
Jo quran ma ha aur Jo hazrat Muhammad SAW na frmaya wohe shch ha baki sub jot ha who is agee with me
1000%right
stop commenting Islam related stuff under drama and other irrelevant videos!
this isnt a documentary
@@suhaahmed4771Why? Here it's very much needed..
Kya quran main or dunya or jahan ka zikar nh h kya dosri dunya main jana na mumkin h kya quran main asman k dreazon la zikr nh h kya kya dosri dunya ka safer na mumkin h? Ye sb quran main h
Women who died naturally/not by suicide are having a stone at their back, wearing pink clothes and roaming in the hotel. While women who committed suicide are in burzakh, wrapped completely in red clothes.
No. Saifullah’s mother was murdered by him so your theory doesn’t hold.
Bt she didn't die by suicide..
@@shay16910 yeah but not by suicide
and what about those pink dressed men? are they all the ancestors lying under the mehtab mahal?
People in pink carrying the stones represent the souls who are burdened. The dead men/women shown with stones are the ones who oppressed people and most probably the ones who tortured Mehtab for their pseudo-ego and pride.
Saifullah's mother is carrying a stone because she is carrying the weight of guilt towards her son for abandoning him while she is still alive.
"Every night the sun sacrifices to let the moon shine" What a beautiful line
Yes it was beautiful
Yup!
Sun needs a break and moon shouldn’t take any favors 😂
Imagination and creativity at its peak… this story is complex because it is out of the ordinary and very unique… love the imaginative style… you poked the child in me who once was very imaginative but with time hid inside me👏👏👏👏👏👏
I am flabbergasted by the narration, cinematography, conviction of characters. They have redefined the art of story telling. I am glued to the story, belived in their ghosts and fairies, crying for mehtab and sad for jafar's loss of mehtab yet angry on him for not being a good husband nd a father to his sons . Sanam saed, fawad khan, kushal and rest are spectacular. I am tranaported to the uninhibited world of Shakespeare.. thanks for creating this magical world. I am on board till the last episode ❤❤
Explain the story then
Bhai, that was too much English
Boht acha hn es mn acha hn kya bagair gandagi ka ager apni eyes se parda hatalo tu jis chez mn Quran se mana keya hn sab uska ulta krahi hn
Ye dunia ka pehla drama ho ga jis k nichy itna lamby lamby comment hn or wo b drama k upr 😂 wrna tu jo b drama open kro nichy comment drama ki story pr kam hoty thy or islam ki baten deen ki baten ho rhi hoti thn ....Aj tu comment pard ky hassi nhi rok rhi ... Story smj aye ya na aye lakin log ye drama skip kr kr k b dekhen gy k akhir is ma aisa ha kya
Ri8 muj jesy😅
Hahaha 😅
Es darama main aisa Kuch ni hai
Right 😂😂😂
@@ChandaAleen-u6i yes you are right
Connections I was able to make from this episode:
As seen in the last episode Jaffer was fighting with his first wife saying “kamyabi hai uskay pas bulandi hai - tumaray aam say pariron say kahi zada” which justifies why she was in the bath tub eating mangoes.
Numberdar’s wife has also lost her daughter and her husband knows about it too - i believe he was involved in her demise to chaman. The people who gathered at the nunberdars wife’s house are planning to meet with their daughters when Jaffer goes to unite with Mahtab.
Jaffer wanted to go to that meeting as well but saifullah stops him - not sure why and his suitcase carries “mehtabs duppata”.
Also, all the souls with stones are stuck in this world and their rocks will break off if they commit good deeds - as shown in this episode where the wives help the couple and a piece of the rock breaks off.
The tub scene was painted in the last episode by the strange lady and it was shown in the episode - the lady paints guilt.
In the end, the girl Leena (who is fawad khan’s wife she enters Mehtab Mahal and sits with her mother in law. Notice all three ladies have white fingers indicating they were murdered (lack of oxygen flow in the body)
Yes. Leena was probably murdered too
And what are they eating, kuch smjh aya?
@@nrshere_ that probably has some symbolism too I am not sure what exactly they are eating but it seems like what they are having maybe symbolizes they were all murdered or maybe they all had similar situations such as a neglected husband?
@@tehreemjamal4493 murda gosht to nhi kisika?
@@nrshere_ episode 4 manay abhi tak dekhi nahi hai lakin I dont think so kyun kay woh bichariyan khud murda hai aur un mein say do ka shohar Jaffer zinda hai 😂 us insan say zada unka bura kisi nay kiya nahi hai 😂😂
every episode of this show takes me out of this world within my own imagination. It's so grand how the storyline is playing with people's imagination. It literally takes me a few minutes to come back to reality after watching each episode. I get so lost and out of words and just sit there thinking. Mindboggling!!!
I have just finished watching 2nd episode. And as usual i have read some comments. The only thing that is wrong with this insanely genius piece of art, is that a majority of the Pakistani audience wasn’t ready for it yet!
I can say this for a fact that we are a progressing country since 77 years.
Stupid
It has come to pass these days that Art is a re-depiction of humdrum realities. And most people find recognition and comfort in this - for, they are not then required to invoke their sense of imagination (or lack of it).
That Art is truly a re-creation of an artist's outlook of life, his/her emotional assessment of the world and existence, his/her agonies and ecstacies, crests and peaks, is something which is alien to the majority of people in this world. Pity !!
The narrative, the picturisation and presentation in this serial is indeed top - notch. Play of characters is sublime. And performance? Too good. No words, really. Hats off !!
Hunza valley is highlight of the series - beautiful valley of Pakistan. My homeland ✌️
@hunza_to_houston kia ye sari places asal mn bhi hn Yani jis Ghar mn shooting ho rhi hy
@@zainabaliali-tp5qw yes sb places han.
Is this Pakistan???
@@Mysterious_life_1991 Yes, place is Hunza, remote area, north of Pakistan
Not Pakistan . It's gilgit baltistan. @@Mysterious_life_1991
اور جو لوگ اس بات کو پسند کرتے ہیں کہ مومنوں میں بے حیائی یعنی تہمت بدکاری کی خبر پھیلے ان کو دنیا اور آخرت میں دکھ دینے والا عذاب ہوگا۔ اور خدا جانتا ہے اور تم نہیں جانتے ( سوره النور ، آیت (19)
Kindly Buzz off illiterate
Can’t wait for this upcoming episode…even a 3 days waiting seems like a long time 😄….such a beautiful art work, phenomenal sets, loving each and every bit of this masterpiece 🤩
Total 6 hi episodes hai shyd
This is so weird but intriguing at the same time.. I don't want to see it I want to see it lol
Lol same
Same 😂
Same here
Same
Me too
Beautiful drama, I think people who want to boycott it. they are uneducated and this drama is way far from their small mind
Lol.
I think if you see it in dept why people are boycotting, then you might understand.
Laanat bhejna bi kabi kabi swab ho Jata ho ga aap jese logon per
@@Flamingwolf-ri3ux
Jis bat pe aap logon ko aag lag rahi hai. Homosexuality. Last episode mein who bhi khatam Hu Gaya. Ab kis bat ko Target kar rahe hu jahilo !!!
Hollywood-level production and direction. What a wonderful story .Will not appeal to those who love watching mother-in-law and daughter-in-law fights .Such season-ups will be seen in Hollywood This season should have been on Netflix
Yes appeal to those who love vulgarity and lbgt. Lakh di lanat likhny waly pr pasand krny waly pr aur support krny waly pr
@@urmausman5614 You also speak wonderful things, I remember Zia-ul-Haq after reading your comment Just like Zia-ul-Haq, shut down the drama industry In this play, the author has shown everything and every passion very limited Your order does not work, otherwise you should flog us in the name of religion you do not watch this drama otherwise it will be a sin In short I would say live and let live
@@urmausman5614 آپ بھی کمال کی باتیں کرتے ہیں، آپ کا تبصرہ پڑھ کر مجھے ضیاء الحق یاد آ گئے بالکل ضیاء الحق کی طرح ڈرامہ انڈسٹری کو بند کر دیا، اس ڈرامے میں مصنف نے سب کچھ اور ہر جذبہ بہت محدود دکھایا ہے، آپ کا حکم نہیں چلتا، ورنہ آپ ہمیں مذہب کے نام پر کوڑے ماریں آپ یہ ڈرامہ مت دیکھیں ورنہ گناہ ہوگا مختصر میں کہوں گا جیو اور جینے دو
@@DirectorBy7 and i remember a question answer session of world economic forum where they address how they spent money on governments , actors, NGO's and others to normalised lbgt in the societies of those countries whom they monitor.story is good you can make good drama without vulgarity and lbgt but then international aqa paisy kiuy dy why always the people who show ugly face of our country gets international prizes like sharmin and malala why Abdulsitar Edhi sahib don't get any nobel prize.so plz ye islamic or liberal manjun bechny ki bejy ye dekho ky aap ye serial apni maa behn ya beti ky sath dekh skty ho . 2ndly i don't have any interest in zia and his baqiyat.
@@urmausman5614 Unfortunately, you are talking about a country where people are burnt alive in the name of religion Do international organizations ask them to do so? You are talking profanity again and again, it means you haven't seen the drama.You don't remember what happened to Malala Yousafzai .Aapko kya lagta hai ki Ham dudh se Dhule hue hain .Flaws, weaknesses, shortcomings are in us as a nation.I am ashamed to call myself a nation, I see an agenda in your words.This is a nation that starts cursing each other in a minute like you .Whatever our agenda is, I should fear it.
This drama is full of suspense, you can't guess what is going to happen next......it's amazing ❤❤❤
26:03 the way he yelled Pyar yaar 😂😂😂😂😂😂 its a hilarious series
God...its dark n to lighten my mood.. i think Aqa only tortured her n never let her eat mangoes in her life so in afterlife she got infinite no of mangoes probably as a reward for spending her life with someone like aqa
How did you figure it out
😂😂😂😂😂
😂 the only valid explanation
@@ridamalik3303 jus to take my mind off the dark things 😂 n i thought this way based on wt we've heard gud ppl will receive whatever they want in the afterlife
@@banchan9ooI think mango symbolize desire, and yawning of touch. This is the husband who had left his wives alone as he was searching for Mehtab, his first love.
Another great episode from this gem! This is literally gonna be one of my most favourite shows of all time. The cinematography is insane in this show. The script is so well written and executed that I'm at loss of words. Fawad & Sanam are marvelous in their roles. Saifullah's story line is quite interesting as well. Kudos to the whole cast and crew for making this magnificent show. Looking forward to the next episode.
A brilliant show, mythology and storytelling at its best. A world-class production. Way ahead of its time for a country like PAKISTAN, where all these artists must be celebrated and not banned.
This is not masterpiece its just fantasy or fairytale. Realism not existed. Male to male like qum e loot Allah may protect us this type of fitna ameen
Why are you watching?
Na dekho na phir
Ameen
Qum a loot have always been there, Since the world was created. So stop bitching about it. Romans Greeks are gay. What's the big deal being a homosexual. You need to grow up.
Atlast a drama on guilt , grief and unfulfilled desires
A drama on normalising homosexuality a drama on satanic beliefs a drama on filth.. May you get my point of you are a Muslim and read Qur'an..
56:13 this shot...
the reflections are three separate shots put together. The middle reflection gives the bearly notable head shake and has a slight knowing smile. This was unnecessary for most of the audience... but it was still done. Respect for the art. 😮
wow... great observation and the expressions are different - from happiness to sorrow
Fact: this drama can't be watched at 2× speed
False ,I did it on some scenes though 😏
We can’t even watch it on normal lol.
It’s so deep & complex that I’m sure most of us are watching it twice or .5x
Agree you can't get it if you skip a single scene
I had to go back twice sometimes to try to understand. I’m thoroughly enjoying though.
True but I did it for second to second 😊
Definitely an abstract story that is not easiest to grasp. In saying that the visuals and intrigue value glues you to the screen.
I have not seen such gorgeous cinematography by Pakistani crew before - absolutely breath taking. It's like moving art.
this is netflix content....such a unique story ...loving this series
Came for Fawad and Sanam , stayed for everything about this series ... ❤ splendid
Came for khushhal khan
and they all disappoints by promoting homosexuality and intermidating scenes.
arent they brother/sister in drama
This drama is such a masterpiece ngl. Finally Pakistani actors are making dramas other than saas bahu topics
Stop calling it a masterpiece just because Pakistanis are trying to copy the Hollywood genre does not mean it is a masterpiece, Do you even understand the storyline, connection or find any engaging dialogues except that outdoor cinematography
@@AbihaKhann story line kya hai samjho eemaan ko kamzoor kr shirk r fitne ki taraf le jane ki ye puri story line yahoodi agenda hai aisi kayi story Netflix pe bhari padi hai .
😂zee na bania
Promoting nudity or vulgarity is not a masterpiece. Plus it has lot of confusion that makes it more toxic
@@dreamer899jealous people!
What rubbish 🤮you could also show the drama without all these "ghanda" scenes people considering it as a pure art should be ashamed of themselves and for their thoughts. The thing which is wrong is wrong it could not be justified by anything
True...🤮🤮🤮
You can watch animal planet 😅😅
🤮🤮🤮🤮 just hate
If we start to see human body as just a body with needs, you wont see sex as something to be ashamed of, 😶 no doubt jabhi humare haan rape ziyada hotay cuz we only see our bodies in sexual manner, remove the gandagi from your mind (that one must ashamed of their body) and then see a human body, you'll start to see nothing but a nature.
I know everyone is talking about sanam saeed and fawad khan but damn the guy who played the elder son is phenomenal. He is such a brilliant actor.
he really is, i think its because he's in theatre. i find most our theatre actors such stellar performers
Brilliant! I still can't believe this is a Pakistani show (script, director, almost all the actors, one producer, music, etc.), understanding that it is a project of Zee Zindagi.
What the fuck?
@@muhammadfaisal6431 Possibly cancer? You should get that checked out...
This series is for high IQ people only. Our society should stick too saas bahu drama
Plz thora samjha do waqai samjh nahi arahi
People who had IQ of -1000 😂😂
@@muhammadzohaib4454 and look at you, you are still on that video giving them views and comments 😂👍🏼
Ooo my goddd what a thrill!!!! I never expected such like this in barzakh. I really enjoy typical romantic Pakistani drama. Bt I also like this types. And this is justtt beyond description. Just waiting for the 3rd epiiii
In the last episode, while filling the glass of water, it was overflown and saifullah didn't realize until aaqa called, he seems to forget when filling anything with water and and that is obvious because he is indulged in his thoughts. In this episode, the tub was again overflown with water and he didn't realize it until aaqa called him. I wanna get myself surprised if this has some significance later in the show.
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bro's from the future
May be aqa is going to be killed in bath tub by saifullah ...
I think that’s how her mother died or he killed her
@@samiyaellahi2916 he killed her with pillow not by drowning. Thats why his hands get sweaty and he rubs them because of guilt. Water overflowing is something else or its just me thinking way deeply than it isnt
It’s a fiction why everyone is so intimidated
writer tried his best to imitate JK Rowling,Stephen King, George Martin …😋
Aese dekho jese games of thrones dekhte thy 😂 ab dekhna b hai aur tauba tauba bhi karni hai
wxactly mujy samaj ni ata ye log netflix py to sab dekhlety bary mazy sy lekin agar apny tv chanels py ya phir pakistani directors aisa kuch bnain to inko masla ajeeb
@@BabyGurl-zt3hjo Bhai netflix pe koi momin aisi cheeze nhi dekhta ap dekhte hoge tabhi apko ye sab itna Pasand araha he moreover on netflix they are non Muslims unka culture tabah ho chuka he India tak Ka ho chuka he or ab Pakistan Ka karne kee koshish Kar rahe alame duniya sy alame barzakh tak Jane Ka raasta Nikal Kiya wahh Bhai kis tarha sy ye hamare Deen Ka mazaq ura rhe hen agar tum non Muslim bhi ho to shame on you Bhai banana bhi he to reborn pe banao Jo Hindu Ka concept he Islam sy itna obsessed kiu ho
Guys, its an indian production house, but the set is in Pakistan - Gilgilt, Hunza side. Nevertheless, both countries did a fine job.
Nothing to do with India or Indians. Zee is just the OTT platform.
@@atokimruk937Zee 5 produced the series.
@@atokimruk937unka paisa laga hua hai series py 😂
@@atokimruk937
Read name of Producer Shailja Kejriwal
@@atokimruk937yes
“Are you always this high?” 😭😂
Mny is drama sa zada comment section gour sa prh rhy😂
😂😂😂😂 🤭😂 ye drama Mane dekha hi nh hai ,bht hi bakwaas drama hai Astagfirullah tauba 😢
Kya hai is drama ma Mjy smjh e ni arhi kch 😊
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@@SaniaRajput-zb2bj dekhao to sai darma pta chl jy ga
@@SaniaRajput-zb2bjsmj h to ayegi
So invested in this series, the story, the cinematography, the art direction+locations+performances everything is on point can't wait for upcoming episodes 🎉
Yes same 😊
@@_Save_Palestine_15 oh your username should be ashamed of yourself
What a fascinating way to highlight the issues present in society through the supernatural and fantasy. Such a great of story telling without being preachy. If it was on tv it would show a women being beaten for 10 episodes and a girl being married off living an unhappy life for 25 episodes to have the writer have her say at the end that she wants to be free. Here 3 episodes in we have gotten these messages and more.
This drama may be different but we must never forget our religion and its boundaries. Since when nudity and lgbtq become halal? These elements were not necessary for the so called 'international audience' & 'legacy of cinematography'. Khushal khan is hungry for fame thats why he did such lowly scene. We shall discourage the normalization propaganda. If not then the time is not far away when our child will come to us saying ammi I'm gay astaghirullah are you ready for this??
crying is not the solution
Conservative loser. Your time has come.
Kids are gay in Pakistan they just don’t have the courage to reveal it you because of parents like yoy
This is not a drama or piece of art. This is just pure filth. No doubt in that. I cannot believe how our actors can fall for little money. This whole series revolves around all those things which have been declared as major moral sins by Islam and glamorising this crap shows that this project is not about art and fiction.
@@feeneebi Exactly. They all lost my respect forever. They were at least getting money, but what about our awam? Ye kis khushi me support krry hn is kachry ko? Wanna liberals pta nh kiski validation lena chahty hn. Tauba
Read carefully please!
This series isn't promoting homosexuality , infact Address the true scenario of those ppl who define themselves that they are homosexual. By birth no one is homosexual. Its not in our religion islam , this thing not existed by nature.It depicts that saifullah has no childhood, only he saw pathetic miseries and traumas in his life, he hasn't evolved him self as a male or female or simple as a person, obviously he has a baggage of past that make his character like this, there is dialogue with aqa where aaqa said u couldn't find ur true love so he didn't know abt love. Neither did he do any sin with male. Drama tells us the consequences of a broken family that turned him into a person that doesn't know even by himself who he is ? Plus he did crime by killing her mother and his hands has proof.so he not either have hormonal feelings towards man and female both, he is full of pandora box with shattered soul ,on right time if counseling was done by both of his parents he wouldn't even 1% be turned like that; he would know that its wrong to even think like this. In episode 3 its clearly sees that Saifullah denied the kiss of that italian guy and stood up and surrounded himself again in the loop of his past burden or baggage he is just misguided soul nothing else not homosexual yes italian guy may be (he is not muslim) but saifullah just not know the right path ,he is not confident like his sis sherzad or brother (fawad) he is prison of his own crime rest both aren't show this way because they never committed any crime.
Pls like if anyone understands my point of view
I got your pov but the main problem is promoting it or normalizing it i know many people struggle with this but the thing is that they're not showing how to tackle this rather making us sympathize for him which is okay if for the sake of how it happens but they are showing for the sake that people start accepting this as I know teg director's past projects he just wanted to make people accept this is the thing and you had to accept this not the other way that yes this is the thing but you had to change your thoughts by therapy, religious practice etc.......
Secondly this is not natural but made from the baggage of trauma or society or cultural thing
@@useryt289 i don't know the exact mind frame of director as i don't know him personally as far as series concerned , my point is he is not promoting this at ALL , all is abt the character with grey shade and consequences of dysfunction family that during his teenage or middle age he remained with his sick mother in which he couldn't able to recognise himself who he is? I believe that in episode 3 the director convinced us if even 1% he is driven towards THAT side due to childhood trauma and the things he encountered in the past still he is strong enough to hold himself doing any sin and remain confused with his own identity...
@@useryt289 dysfunction family kids leads towards any crime or sin, yhy point of view hai director k smjhane ka . Diff ye k wo chor,daku, terrorist,rapist ye ni bna infact apni hi identity me confuse hogya and its a one of the fact that the director raised it, we can watch him doing crime but we can't able to see him going through this.. it's a very thin line to understand this,its not promoting anything, agr terrorist bn jata hm normalize krlete lkn he is himself confused iski b conditioning zroori hai portray zroori hai
@@Productivecontent. No write it down somewhere this character's closure will be of him accepting who he is without the fear of judgment of others or not this then will be died to make sympathy for him as none accepted him...
@@useryt289 I wish it couldn't be end like this
Then my ideology is meaningless and our culture will be ruined...
Sanam’s dialogue delivery and her acting has proven again that she’s one of a legend
Definitely
إِنَّ الَّذِينَ يُحِبُّونَ أَن تَشِيعَ الْفَاحِشَةُ فِي الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا لَهُمْ عَذَابٌ أَلِيمٌ فِي الدُّنْيَا وَالْآخِرَةِ ۚ وَاللَّهُ يَعْلَمُ وَأَنتُمْ لَا تَعْلَمُونَ.............. بے شک جو لوگ پسند کرتے ہیں کہ ان لوگوں میں بے حیائی پھیلے جو ایمان لائے ہیں، ان کے لیے دنیا اور آخرت میں دردناک عذاب ہے اور اللہ جانتا ہے اور تم نہیں جانتے
سوره نور آیت نمبر 19
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Subtle 'normalization' of everything vile (suicide, murder, alcohol, lgbt as much as inapropriate language) is how u cultivate the the thoughts in masses :The absolutley forbidden? ...maybe its not that bad...i mean...[untill a person cannot tell the right from wrong]
May Allah SWT protect us. AMEEN
Yes this!! Subtle
Every over hyped drama or movie in Pakistan is these days promoting this agenda.
"the absolutely forbidden"... i'd love to see you rage over other absolutely forbidden things that are "normalised" in usual pakistani dramas (sexual and physical abuse, child marriage, murder etc.) and mind you, those things arent "normalised" subtly, the have been normalised in a in your face and intense manner. and if you think people dont commit suicide in pakistan, or people dont murder others, or people dont drink alcohol, or people arent gay then you are SEVERELY mistaken, come out of ur small bubble for two seconds and try to realise the reality of the country you live instead of keeping ur delusions in ur fools paradise. these things are already completely normal. why are u so afraid of knowing the truth of your own country? face the truth and stop weeping. apki delusions ki basis pe na poori duniya kabhi chali hai na chale gi.
And then they are calling it PURE ART ...
these things all happen behind closed doors in pakistan. some of it happens openly. pretending that its some new big thing is wrong. pakistanis commit sins all the time but we only see a problem when it comes to things we PERSONALLY don’t like.
The concept of this drama is based on imagination and art. Whereas if you look up to the other aspects of this drama such as effects Masterclass 👏
What was I thinking when I thought I could binge watch this. 😁
This needs you to pause after every episode and let yourself be with it before you go for the next one.
It's one of the masterpiece...first the writer,then director...n the actors who bought the whole thing live.. outstanding.
Bro Director and writer is the same one
@AdeelZafarhayat lol really?
@@JDroidGaming yes
When everyone sleep in this palace then spirits do party 😂😂
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Humaare Buzurg, Humaare Mehboob, Haraamzaade sab ke sab.
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I'm from India and I'm just loving this masterpiece Pak has created but the irony is some pakistani who were appreciating this masterpiece in the 1st episode and saying it can give tough competition to series on Netflix. Are only now criticizing it lol why? Cos it shows a guy who loves other guys. This show didn't even show any vulgarity and stuff . Still... 😆
This is still vulgarity for normal Pakistanis
Chill yaar these peeps are not as evolved as we Indians are so that's why they are making such a fuss out of nothing
I don't know how you find it funny? Cultural sensitivities are part of every region and people are touchy about them. That seems a very small normal thing to one can be really offensive for others. Even the smallest things like hand gestures can create a riff. There is nothing ironical if some pakistanies changed their views because of homosexuality element, this is very normal human behaviour
@@splendidlife1176hahaha haha haha okay this WAS funny actually 😂😂😂 the evolved Indian society 😂😂😂😂
Evolved 😅😅😅😅wht a joke 🤣😂🤣🤣 we see the evolution 🙈 😅😅😅😂😂😂
Omg! It’s mind blowing!!!!! It’s beyond the level of seeing David Cameron’s movies.Its par excellence and tells us the truth that we belong to both worlds.
David Cameron? The former UK prime minister?!
Ye david camerom kon hai 😂. Naam tou theek lo and plz james cameron ka koi comparison nahi yahan
Is that mind-blowing? Than u saw nothing in ur life.in my opinion its the most weird and filth
@@muhammadfaisal6431we don't f with opinions from people like you!
کہانی کئی رخ سے بہت دلچسپ ہے۔ کہانی میں روحوں پر بوجھ والا کانسیپٹ دیکھ کر دل سے داد نکلی ہے۔ پاکستانی اداکار اور لکھاری بہت کچھ کر سکتے ہیں اگر عوام جاہل نہ ہو تو۔ زبردست
مجھ تو من و عن کسی ھالی وڈ مووی کی کاپی لگ رھا ہے
I am watching it and surprized that Pakistani hate this Master peice ? why ? Are they stupid ? this is best dark art work.
Public jahil nhi h..jahil to ap h samarjahan...jo muslim hokar jism farosh be huda ko promote...sharam karo ALLAH ko muhn dikhana....top flop drama...
@@Nidahashmi786 Jahil tu aap hu . pata nahi aap ke mind mein kon sa zeher bhara hua hai . Es drama mein kahan aap ko jism faroshi nazar aae? dekha bhi hai drama ya bas monh otha ke comment karne aa gae, es drama mein child marriage ko ghalat dikhaya gaya, homosexuality ki desire kop control karte dikhaya gaya hai . but yeh bat tum jese jahil kabhi nahi samajh sakte
K6 smgh nhi a rhi 3 episode dekhi
The artist that paints actually is painting the past and future events
then how did she paint the pigeon when saifullah killed it as a child? i think it's a mix of past and future events showing the person's guilt
The bathtub painting was evocative. And then later how the water nearly overflowed with gramps in it. Powerful imagery
Is it symbolic that a bath is dirty showing his sins
It's like the other side of the realm...people criticizing this will go see Hollywood movies and praise them ...but not content made in Asia ....such hypocrites
No we don't watch Hollywood too if it doesn't make sense 😂😂😂
@@beatjeat4979every piece of art makes sense , it’s just genre that we relate or not relate to .
@@Everythingchic this is a wannabe art (trying hard... really hard) but sorry, most who r interested in watching are not getting it 😂😂😂
no one knows the other side of realm
@@beatjeat4979 no one can watch anything without interest that is first thing and other is interest lies when people get it . Ye to wahi bat ho gyi ki apko dekhna bhi hai but bina bat ke deconstructive criticism bhi dena hai .
I think these characters are not shown as Muslims , so criticism based on zina , lgbtq is baseless. Although romanticising such things in any other religion is also not apt. We can watch this show just for entertainment purpose like we watch other shows that's it. It shouldn't be taken as inspiration , people are concerned for kids watching this show then please it's duty of parents to teach fiqh / ruling of Islam.
It shows the reality of Pakistan tbh, everyone sins people just hide it.
One of them is literally named Saifullah. Even if according to the story telling they aren't showed muslim or the characters have no link with islam.They showed souls from the barrier(barzakh) reincarnating or having a rebirth in this realm. Which has a link with islam the story line mixed part of souls and life/death from Islam and reincarnation from hinduism.
Outstanding..... its not promoting anything which is vulgar or negativity, but the audience is worthless...
how you can say it promote homosexuality, its is the naked reality, if you ban it , still homosexuality pertains in our society bcz it already exist we can't stop it. They are just showing us the mirror ...
poor mentality of urs
showing naked reality are u really really blind or just behaving. Plz don't normalize this thing society.
two men kis*ng eachother, a kid watching adult man while bathing what is this??????
@@NoorFatima-ye9klits true homosextuality has risen in pakistan unfortunately.. and all the muftis are sleeping😢
Har gundi cheez dekhaani ku hoti hai? Hoti hai society mein tu dekhaao so that jisko nahe pata unko bhi pata chale. Nonsense
Unique concept, superb direction, brilliant actors . Even I can’t believe this is pakistani drama .
It’s next level drama very interesting ❤❤❤❤❤
This drama reminds me of "Dark" series from Netflix. Love it truly a masterpiece ❤
The drama Barzukh presents a compelling storyline with impressive acting and production. However, it has sparked controversy due to its depiction of themes and scenes that are often considered taboo in Pakistani and Muslim society. These include scenes involving parental intimacy, children's awareness of their surroundings, LGBTQ themes, and alcohol consumption. These elements have made some viewers uncomfortable and led to disapproval.
Nevertheless, some argue that the inclusion of such themes is crucial for sparking important conversations and debates within society. The Quran mentions various evils, and by addressing these issues openly, the drama encourages viewers to confront and understand them rather than ignore their existence. This bold approach may be necessary to reflect the complexities of contemporary society and foster a more nuanced understanding.
Overall, "Berzukh" tackles a significant and beautiful topic about the afterlife, where souls await with the burdens they carried in life. This narrative captures the essence of accountability and the moral struggles faced by individuals, making it a much-needed discussion in today's context.
This drama serves as a mirror to societal issues, blending good and evil, and challenging viewers to develop a more informed perspective on these sensitive topics.
Pakistan as a Muslim country now promoting gay #lgbtq in series shows how near are we ro qayamah.
Shut up!
Ap ny nae dekhna ap mat dekho
@@HassanBaloch-x1j ya islam ya kufr
Woke mf detected opinion rejected@@HassanBaloch-x1j
pakistan is not that islamic. people barely pray 5 times a day. don’t pretend to be religious just when it comes to lgbt things.
Its an art piece and not the commercial one. Curiosity does nt die while watching this, but patience is needed
@netflix kindly check the story and instead of thinking that it's Pakistani content take in on your website for more people to watch and get entertained by this 'not ever seen kinda story before'..amazingly casted and produced...🎉
Assalamualaikum are u from India???
The aesthetics are just out of the world, lots of love and appreciation from India ❤️❤️❤️❤️
The stroy writing, cinematography is absolute next level, our illiterate awaam can never understand Art, This is pure masterpiece & brilliantly portrayed.
muhammad fawad you just nailed it mannnnnnnnnnnn the anxiety he is dealing with mind blowing actor yrrrrrrr
please don;t add name of our prophet pbuh to this gay character this is pure evil
@@asif.263 were you born dumb or has life made you this way?
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I'm surprised in a good way. This is too deep. Meaningful and not for usual love story audiences.
I honestly was not expecting to be enjoying it this much! Thankyou for this masterpiece.
Pakistani media is next level.❤
Why this Barzakh hypnotizing my mind idk last night i watched 2 episodes and couldn't sleep 😢
babe thats called insomnia
@@sev1zeus103 ye may be
same
Then u should not watch it as simple it is
The same case with me 😂
I am totally in love with this art drama i dont even ghnta frq nai prta LGBTQ they r promoting wht so evr but the cast and how they r running this drama is really beautiful after Alif drama hamza abbasi i like this one.
Fr. Who cares if it is totally against whats taught in Islam? U gotta watch fawad khan sanam saeed. Apko kia hena?
@@salmakhan9269 mai bhe to yhe keh rha ho boss k issues kuch bhe hai plot story and cenamatic class hy
What a beautiful narration…. one by one each character unfolding. The grey shades are so well brought out. Waiting for Episode 3 today. Actors in these characters are also making it look so real, that’s why it’s so intriguing.
Brilliant episode 👏 👌 👍. The cinematography of this series is at another level. I'm completely soaked in the world of Barzakh.
This series will not leave you alone. It will stay with you... You definitely need 100 percent attention to notice every detail in every frame. Thanks to Asim Abbasi to pull this off ❤
One request to Pakistani audience... PLEASE DO NOT WATCH THIS SERIES IF YOU FEEL OFFENDED. JUST SKIP!!! AND DON'T THROW GARBAGE IN COMMENTS SECTION. Let the well evolved international audience watch this masterpiece in peace ✌.
💯agree
It's means u agree with that homosexual kinda rubbish....
Brilliant! Superb piece of writing - raw artistry. Kudos to Asim Abbasi.
Asim Abbasi har episode ke hamare understanding wale para pad ke haste honge. .
Itne dhyaam se dekhna pad raha hai every episode jaise exam dena ho iska.
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Literally Kuch smjh nai aya 😂😂😂 3no episodes dekhliye
اور جو لوگ اس بات کو پسند کرتے ہیں کہ مومنوں میں بےحیائی یعنی (تہمت بدکاری کی خبر) پھیلے ان کو دنیا اور آخرت میں دکھ دینے والا عذاب ہوگا۔ اور اللہ جانتا ہے اور تم نہیں جانتے ۔۔۔سورۃ نور ۔۔ آیت﴿۱۹﴾
اللہ کے سامنے توبہ کرو اور ڈرو اس دن سے جب اللہ کہیں گے کہ آج تمہارے بھاگنے اور مجھ(اللہ) سے بچنے کی جگہ نہیں ہے۔۔اور پھر اس بدکاری کو کرنے اور بنانے والوں اور اسکو پروموٹ کرنے والوں سے اللہ اس بدکاری کا حساب لیں گے۔۔
Bayshaq
@@RahilaRiyazاپنی تبلیغی جماعت کہیں اور لے جاٶ
@@HassanBaloch-x1jq aag lag rahi ha apko Kya ap Muslim nai?
@@HassanBaloch-x1j😡
Tüm bare pak daman ho pehle apne ghr aur apne AP ko theek Kr le phir ve Hayay ki vaat Kr
Kis kis ko ye story samj nahi hata lekin pir bhi seasons 3 tak haya majbori me 😅😅
kya tati bnai h asy ee hype create ki kuch b nai h is mai😅😅😅
@@purething 😄
Same but interesting hai Netflix Jese
Me🥹
Hahahahaha 😂i m slso...plzzz koi y 3 episodes ki story samjha de
It's not pure art it's sure fart full LGBTQ promotion 😂
#nofahashi #nobarzakh
Where is LGBT scene ?
@@ZeeshanKhalid-r9c Yes there's no scenes of
@@quick__crafty true...😡
@@mycricketclub8193 🤣🤣🤣
I have never waited for days impatiently like this before #barzakh. Si much invested to this masterpiece ❤❤
What a writing !!! beyond imagination , Seen such greatest stuff after long time ...
So many universes & realms of art; philosophy; human emotion; nature; spirituality; mystery; fantasy & that of the unknown explored in this one project alone. Spectacular!!!!
It's like I'm watching a novel & just devouring it even if there are things/areas that I'm still not completely sure of/have fully understood.
If this is what we can create --- imagine what WONDERS are we capable of!!
Some scenes make me pause & reflect as to what did he/she just say, what does this actually mean in other contexts/other ways too & so forth... It's created for intelligent & thinking audiences!
If they'd not create intelligent content, then we too do not have the right to continue crying over our audiences 'settling' for the typical or insensitive story-telling that glorifies women being slapped/wronged/violated --- the list goes on...
I'm SO spell-bounded by Sanam's performance & that of Fawad Khan (NAPA), Fawad Afzal Khan having chosen this project only proves him as a justifiably selfish, rather tasteful actor & artist even if the other Fawad has overrided him in their collective scenes or in the story in general.
Take a bow, Asim Abbasi!!! 👏🙌💪👌💝♾
i have never seen such masterpiece of art in pakistani dramas the way they work is just ............. thier interior designing , thier choice of colours and thier costumes each and every single prop of the set is itself a complete story and thier lines omg i cant say how much i am connected to each person and every things ....... hatts off to the entire team .....love love love
It is next level you guys have done 👏👏 bravoo to the whole time. Fully intrigued and waiting for next episode
Hats of to the makers! More such stories should be created in Pakistan 🇵🇰
I don't understand why people are making such a fuss about nothing! Doesn't homosexuality exist in our society? Just visit any other university in Pakistan and you'll observe that many guys exhibit homosexual traits these days. However, due to social and religious pressures, they often refrain from expressing themselves openly. Moreover, we live in the era of Netflix and Amazon Prime, where access to diverse content is just a click away, making it impossible to control what people watch.
han ji .. infact Islamic University Islamabad k girls hostel mein girls ko sath bed share krny py ban laga tha .. due to homosexuality.. and at the same university boy's hostel ..the boys raped a food delivery boy .. Aur yeh cases new nhe hai blky kuch saal pehle k hain.
haqeeqat sy munh phairnay sy haqeeqat badal nahi jati hai.
@@ajhussi
At GC University, Lahore I have seen many boys openly flirting with each other!
Fr people are so annoying, these things need to be talked about. A lot of homosexual guys are pressured by family to marry women. It’s no good for either side.
But promoting sin in such a way. Everyone watching it even innocent teenager. They are sprea sins so that ppl adopt thid openly even though it happens but not openly