I don't know. But Pakistani pilots flying the export version of the J-10CE defeated the European Typhoon in exercises held in Qatar with a score of 9-0 (5 beyond visual range, 4 dogfights). This is currently the only record of such a confrontation. Moreover, the J-10C used by China may be stronger than the export version, the J-10CE.
You do realize that those Typhoons were being flown by Arab pilots? European pilots would overcome Pakistani pilots in dogfights simply cuz they come from a legacy of epic dogfights and superior training
@@engrfka Come on, European pilots only have an average flight time of around 100 hours a year, which is even less than that of Russia. The annual flight hours for U.S. military pilots have also sharply declined. According to an American magazine in 2023, it’s only about 80 to just over 100 hours. I couldn't find the annual flight hours for Pakistani pilots, but Chinese fighter pilots have annual flight hours exceeding 160 to 200 hours.
Its all about heavy prices usa have and you can't compare usa against china's labor force. Then all us factories in China are because to get cheap goods
YES J-10 is cheaper, but Eurofighter has tech that is proven, unlike chinese tech, Also the major problem with J-10 will be engines, Chinese engines have a low MTBO and smaller engine life as compared to Eurofighter. So in my view, in terms of capability, Eurofighter way better than J-10
J10 started as intercept fighter, ammunition and range was sacrificed to gain the advantage of the first attack. J10 was developped into a multi role fighter as PLA had new jest like J16, j11 and j20.
J16 is based on Su-27 which is an Soviet, now Russia fighter Jet. J16 inherited Su-27's Aerodynamics and upgraded with new materials, manufacturing technical and advanced electronic equipment.
@glennridsdale577 everything except the airframe is new, different from the su27. Yes, chinese designed and built the j16, except obviously the frame. It's totally a different plane. Different engine, avionics weapons etc
US LED NATO THOUGHT THEY WERE THE BEST WITH THE MOST ADVANCED WEAPONS, THAT PROVE TO BE DREAMS A LA HOLLYWOOD WHEN THEY MEET RUSSIA IN THE BATTLE FIELDS.... NEVER UNDERESTIMATE ANOTHER MILITARY POWER 😅😅
Russian Top Tier equipment retreating, being held or only slowly advancing against a numerical inferior opponent (depending on which part of the battle line) armed with surplus obsolete NATO equipment . There is a reason why RU arms industry is in freefall...................
In the next major great power war, which is just around the corner, the Americans will be fighting an opponent that can give as good as it gets. For Americans, this will be a novel experience. Since their defeat in Vietnam, the Americans have gone out of their way to attack enemies that are far weaker than themselves. They like to go to war against nations that cannot fight back. When faced with the prospect of heavy resistance the US endeavours to bribe proxies to do all the heavy lifting. To paraphrase former President Barrack Obama, the American fighting man performs at his best whenever he is allowed to lead from the rear.
typhoon by any means is a good fighter you do not need to compare it to any other fighters, especially design for different reasons eurofighter have a main task to perform CAS, while J10 do not need to do so the world is consist of many different countries, sometimes Britain do not have the money to update their eurofighter, but now royal airforce got f35 in the end i like J10, also eurofighter, but let me say, they are all based on the need of their users, as well as limited by their users but every of them achieve the goal at begining, and are all good fighter at their time time have limit on many things, but legend never die as time goes by
Euro Fighter... LoL ... ( Overated ... 3 grade Jet ) . Euro Fighter is a) Damn Expensive b) Limited Missiles c) Mid Size Engines d) Old tech radar and target acquision e) Difficult to Maintain .......................... Only EU wants it.
owners of eurofighters can use american military gps side and pretty reliable and pinpoint unlike civillian gps... owners of j10c wont own that as china wont give beidou military part, but also eurofighter can do beyond sight attacks on other jets... I just dont know if eurofighter can request from satellites which jets are near them like 300 km from them to send them missile that go near them with those satellites and hit them with infrared or other low detecting methods...
They didn't need to copy and paste as the J-10 is a refinement of the Lavi jet originally developed by Israel. They legally bought the design for that plane in the early 1990's. It is NOT an original Chinese design!
@@keplerkepler3518 To be honest, you didn’t fail at all.😀. The plane the J-10 is based in, “Lavi” along with the Kfir C2 were my favorite aircraft. I was disappointed the Israelis sold that design to the Chinese because even though China was friends with Western countries at that time, I remember telling my friends that China would grow to become a a formidable adversary. my friends laughed at me at the time. I’ve had to call them recently and tell them “see I told you so.“😀
@@troibandy2139 Yes, China is increasingly fearsome, but to fascinate me as the European adversary that I am, I still lack what once fascinated me in Russia... cerebral ingenuity. They had and still have excellent minds, China's workforce is impressive. As for planes, the F14 and F16 are some of my favorites... raptors on another planet.
You have no idea of J-10’s RCS (or Typhoon’s for that matter) but 1 sq m would not be in any sense low observable: your claim that it “can be regarded as a quasi stealth fighter” is simply laughable. J-10 has a significantly higher wing loading and lower thrust to weight ratio than Typhoon as well as a smaller radar array. For an air superiority fighter these are critical. J-10 does represent a genuinely outstanding achievement for Chengdu, after decades of bashing out warmed over 1950s MiGs, and it probably does outclass the F-16, but not Typhoon. Meteor’s range is classified, but certainly much longer than PL-15.
I don't know. But Pakistani pilots flying the export version of the J-10CE defeated the European Typhoon in exercises held in Qatar with a score of 9-0 (5 beyond visual range, 4 dogfights). This is currently the only record of such a confrontation. Moreover, the J-10C used by China may be stronger than the export version, the J-10CE.
Who comes up with these ridiculous comparisons ???? At the very best the j10 is comparable to Northrup F 5 Tiger.. certainly not the Typhoon. Whoever published this nonsense needs to be evaluated.
Go ahead China all the love to you. Don't let the repeat of 100 years of humiliation never again.
China must concentrate on producing more and more advanced weaponry to avoid the repeat of 100 years humiliation !
@@angellim9465 true produce as much they can is the winning formula.
Being China a day without humilition is a day lost
@@sachinmesta4238
*You mean Endia, rite?*
@@sachinmesta4238dude an Indian saying this lamo you guys dump on railways don't you?💩 😂
I don't know. But Pakistani pilots flying the export version of the J-10CE defeated the European Typhoon in exercises held in Qatar with a score of 9-0 (5 beyond visual range, 4 dogfights). This is currently the only record of such a confrontation. Moreover, the J-10C used by China may be stronger than the export version, the J-10CE.
You do realize that those Typhoons were being flown by Arab pilots? European pilots would overcome Pakistani pilots in dogfights simply cuz they come from a legacy of epic dogfights and superior training
@@engrfka Come on, European pilots only have an average flight time of around 100 hours a year, which is even less than that of Russia. The annual flight hours for U.S. military pilots have also sharply declined. According to an American magazine in 2023, it’s only about 80 to just over 100 hours. I couldn't find the annual flight hours for Pakistani pilots, but Chinese fighter pilots have annual flight hours exceeding 160 to 200 hours.
@@engrfka It's not the plane Mav , it's the pilot.
Everything made in China are trash 🗑️ a piece of junk…. Cheap material no quality
@@XkMeng Pakistani air force pilots are known to be the best in the world. It's been that way for many decades
You forgot to mention the cost of the Typhoon is about 125 million while the J10 only 65 million...
F35 is $80-$100 million.
And what is the difference
Its all about heavy prices usa have and you can't compare usa against china's labor force. Then all us factories in China are because to get cheap goods
@@eymeeraosaka2954 And....
YES J-10 is cheaper, but Eurofighter has tech that is proven, unlike chinese tech, Also the major problem with J-10 will be engines, Chinese engines have a low MTBO and smaller engine life as compared to Eurofighter. So in my view, in terms of capability, Eurofighter way better than J-10
J10 started as intercept fighter, ammunition and range was sacrificed to gain the advantage of the first attack. J10 was developped into a multi role fighter as PLA had new jest like J16, j11 and j20.
j16s are not imported fighters. They are Chinese domestic built and designed
J16 is based on Su-27 which is an Soviet, now Russia fighter Jet. J16 inherited Su-27's Aerodynamics and upgraded with new materials, manufacturing technical and advanced electronic equipment.
Not imported, but certainly not designed in China. Improved, yes.
@glennridsdale577 everything except the airframe is new, different from the su27. Yes, chinese designed and built the j16, except obviously the frame. It's totally a different plane. Different engine, avionics weapons etc
US LED NATO THOUGHT THEY WERE THE BEST WITH THE MOST ADVANCED WEAPONS, THAT PROVE TO BE DREAMS A LA HOLLYWOOD WHEN THEY MEET RUSSIA IN THE BATTLE FIELDS.... NEVER UNDERESTIMATE ANOTHER MILITARY POWER 😅😅
Russian Top Tier equipment retreating, being held or only slowly advancing against a numerical inferior opponent (depending on which part of the battle line) armed with surplus obsolete NATO equipment . There is a reason why RU arms industry is in freefall...................
well done China !
Very good mate
In the next major great power war, which is just around the corner, the Americans will be fighting an opponent that can give as good as it gets. For Americans, this will be a novel experience. Since their defeat in Vietnam, the Americans have gone out of their way to attack enemies that are far weaker than themselves. They like to go to war against nations that cannot fight back. When faced with the prospect of heavy resistance the US endeavours to bribe proxies to do all the heavy lifting. To paraphrase former President Barrack Obama, the American fighting man performs at his best whenever he is allowed to lead from the rear.
Lol, You drink china Kool-Aid.
No US or European fighters can beat the J10C. ❤❤❤
RAPTOR FOOD😂🤣
😂😂😂😂😂
@@sokratisbairaktaris6345lol..you know your comment is insulting backwards.. when you pull out F-22 ..a 5th generation jet..😅😅😅😅
Can move side way to fire missile
It looks a lot like the F16
typhoon by any means is a good fighter
you do not need to compare it to any other fighters, especially design for different reasons
eurofighter have a main task to perform CAS, while J10 do not need to do so
the world is consist of many different countries, sometimes Britain do not have the money to update their eurofighter, but now royal airforce got f35 in the end
i like J10, also eurofighter, but let me say, they are all based on the need of their users, as well as limited by their users
but every of them achieve the goal at begining, and are all good fighter at their time
time have limit on many things, but legend never die as time goes by
Buy these J10C & the WEST will not allow its Tyfun to fly against it !@# Check their contract, they have a right to do so.
Because it has newer technologies? Chinese engineers are smarter and work harder?
😂😂😂😂😂
Euro Fighter... LoL ... ( Overated ... 3 grade Jet ) . Euro Fighter is a) Damn Expensive b) Limited Missiles c) Mid Size Engines d) Old tech radar and target acquision e) Difficult to Maintain .......................... Only EU wants it.
Eurofighter ✅💯
😂😂eurofighter lost 😂 9-0 , pakistani purchased j10c and qatari eurofighter , eurofighter lost both in dogfight and beyond visual range 😂😂
Yeahs in your dreams
engines made I China is no want near American engines
owners of eurofighters can use american military gps side and pretty reliable and pinpoint unlike civillian gps... owners of j10c wont own that as china wont give beidou military part, but also eurofighter can do beyond sight attacks on other jets... I just dont know if eurofighter can request from satellites which jets are near them like 300 km from them to send them missile that go near them with those satellites and hit them with infrared or other low detecting methods...
EU Military using GPS from US ?? They have their own "Galelio" GPS.
Thrust vectoring?
Yes !
j10缺点就是挂载太少，本来是截击机，后面改成多用途了
j16 takes more tasks to attach ground and sea.
J20 could targets more on the tanker, transport, bomber or E2
If its so then serbia will get them
No serbia will buy jf17 thunder from pakistan
Serbia wants to buy jf 17 thunder from Pakistan
@@marvel_shorts786 J10C is better than JF17
@@ChunWang-vb7yumoney matters jf17 also comes with pl15 and raad 1 (nuke) , still its 25m$ and j10c 65m$ , huge difference of money
@marvel_shorts786 Pakistan won't sell it. Pakistan is ally of Azerbaijan
Flying scrap
This time the Chinese didn't copy paste????????????? strange how it flies
They didn't need to copy and paste as the J-10 is a refinement of the Lavi jet originally developed by Israel. They legally bought the design for that plane in the early 1990's. It is NOT an original Chinese design!
@@troibandy2139 Well I didn't fail by much.. thanks for the info
@@keplerkepler3518 To be honest, you didn’t fail at all.😀. The plane the J-10 is based in, “Lavi” along with the Kfir C2 were my favorite aircraft. I was disappointed the Israelis sold that design to the Chinese because even though China was friends with Western countries at that time, I remember telling my friends that China would grow to become a a formidable adversary. my friends laughed at me at the time. I’ve had to call them recently and tell them “see I told you so.“😀
@@troibandy2139 Yes, China is increasingly fearsome, but to fascinate me as the European adversary that I am, I still lack what once fascinated me in Russia... cerebral ingenuity. They had and still have excellent minds, China's workforce is impressive. As for planes, the F14 and F16 are some of my favorites... raptors on another planet.
@@troibandy2139 You wouldn't say such foolishness if you looked at CAC's own J-9. The J-9 was a project from the 1970s, well before the Lavi.
Are you joking?
You have no idea of J-10’s RCS (or Typhoon’s for that matter) but 1 sq m would not be in any sense low observable: your claim that it “can be regarded as a quasi stealth fighter” is simply laughable. J-10 has a significantly higher wing loading and lower thrust to weight ratio than Typhoon as well as a smaller radar array. For an air superiority fighter these are critical. J-10 does represent a genuinely outstanding achievement for Chengdu, after decades of bashing out warmed over 1950s MiGs, and it probably does outclass the F-16, but not Typhoon. Meteor’s range is classified, but certainly much longer than PL-15.
I don't know. But Pakistani pilots flying the export version of the J-10CE defeated the European Typhoon in exercises held in Qatar with a score of 9-0 (5 beyond visual range, 4 dogfights). This is currently the only record of such a confrontation. Moreover, the J-10C used by China may be stronger than the export version, the J-10CE.
classified, but certainly much longer ~Admirable arrogance
The boosted version of PL15 is rumored to have a range of 400+ km, targeting air tankers, better believe it than not.
Copies always claim to be better until reality meets
China's new J 10c fighter jet engines wear out 10x earlier, what a hassle and spare parts expense
you got the source ?...
@@paulzhang1310yes Trust me bro 😂
@@Raja-Chibis that all you can offer?
You indiot?
You are using data from 7 years ago ...
fake information Be aware 🚨 Chinese product = trash🗑 in battle field😂. copy version with cheap quality
希望你能买到更好的飞机
the truth is Indian product = trash in battle field. copy version with cheap quality
Cond🕉️ got triggered for no reason 🤡
Samosa warriors' boundless enthusiasm for samosa fighter aka Tejas.
Can Tejas Mk1fighter jet which entered into service with the IAF in 2015 compare to J-10C fighter jet
No It’s Not
Who comes up with these ridiculous comparisons ???? At the very best the j10 is comparable to Northrup F 5 Tiger.. certainly not the Typhoon. Whoever published this nonsense needs to be evaluated.
RAPTOR FOOD🇺🇸❤️🙏