Had the same trouble here in a truck (UK) stupid mid-lift axles that won't lift when you need them to. I got stuck on a sharp left hand bend on to a steep bridge one night in the wet and it was a nightmare to get going again. That was at 44 tonnes/100,000lbs all up though..
@@JonathanChan212 We're talking about a performance issue inefficiency with this bus, telling somebody to fuck off because he had a informative comment about the bus is fucktardish. Sure he says it's humid, who gives a fuck if it's raining everyday, the goddamn bus should not be doing that! Better tires, traction control and rear axle turning could solve these issues.
This is a weird chassis. Usally the middle axle is driven and the rear axle is steerable, this is the other way around. Just be thankful you don't have snow in Hong Kong, otherwise this thing wouldn't go anywhere.
Dennis use this design for Trident 3, and other Volvo 3-axle bus too. But the Super Olympian/B10TL is a design that is modified from the Leyland/Volvo Olympian, which utilizes such layout. It wouldn‘t be until 2018 when Volvo releases the B8L that it finally ditches all the design relics from the Olympian era.
6 лет назад+11
Me lembro quando a Prefeitura de São Paulo colocou esses ônibus para transporte público em São Paulo, acho que durou 1 mês !
The bus layout makes no sense the front rear axle is supposed to be the drive axle because if you come to a speed bump or rail road crossing the hump will pull the rear wheels off the floor and it can't drive which is dangerous especially if on a railroad crossing or intersection. Another thing is the rear axles don't steer so you get tire scrub and they will make the bus turn wider and wear faster.
Most buses here in USA, have air suspension. The engine, transmission and drive axle are unitized at the rear end. The intermediate axle (tag axle)suspension in front of the drive axle can be depressurized, by a switch, putting all the weight on duel rear tires. Steerable rear wheel axles are only used on exotic vehicles in USA, like extremely long transports. Too expensive to maintain for mass transit. Eventually, DC electric wheel motors might replace cumbersome gears, joints, drive shafts, etc. Then all the wheels could be driven. You raised some valid points. You should do design and engineering work.
The extra rear axle fitted in front of the drive has no power to it. it's only fitted to carry the extra weight of the air conditioner unit. On some surface angle this axle will cause traction to be lost on the drive axle. The driver just got his best drive line off a bit, the other drivers faired better, maybe a concrete planer is required if this is a frequent problem. I spent a year in HK and knew the chap in charge of building those buses, he told me about the extra axle. I had the same problem trying to drive aboard a ferry where the ramp was to steep, in this case the drive axle was in front of the trailing axle. Laid some timbers and managed to get on.
which idiot designed those buses? if you have a non-articulated bus with three axles, there is ALWAYS the acceleration on the second and the steering on the third (and first of course), so things like this don't happen. but with "traction" on the third axle with another steering one right before, this is just unavoidable to happen.
inside outside upside downside Trucks and buses all need and do have limited slip differentials (LSD:s) in order to get going. The masses are much larger than in cars ergo they are used.
Chris Thompson I'll figure that you don't know much of heavy vehicle machinery, do you? LSDs are part of the drive axle almost always. In trucks and buses it's a must due to the weights involved.
Who in the fresh hell designed a tri-axle bus with the most rear axle pushing all the mass ? It's supposed to be the forward-rear axle pulling the last one, and this would have probably not happened, or at least not as badly
Volvo buses does it, I think it has to do with the engine layout as well: Volvo put their engines sideways (transversely) in the engine bay, driveshaft comes out from the right rear quarter area and drives the most rear axle. Others (i.e. Dennis Enviro 500) put their engine longitudinally in the engine bay, the entire drivetrain is offset to the left, and drive the forward-rear axle.
@@JReastHei why would they do that so complicated, except if they make it low floor , for easy access , but every bus i saw, Setra, Scania/Van Hool, Neoplan,Vdl, have longitudinal engine , clutch+gearbox then retarder,and diff, and rear front axle is driven and last rear is steering axle.
sahrp corner. double axle in the back maybe even a slight incline around the corner. this is the result. and maybe the street itself since it seems pretty bullshit material
Wow, I've never seen a bus do a burn out before. 😂😂 Nice ALX500 bus. They remind me so much of the ALX400 buses over here in the UK. ☺️
This isn’t E500D is Volvo Super Olympian (12m)
@@AirbusA-fb2qi I didn't say it was an E500D. I said ALX500 and I know it's a Volvo Super Olympian but with an ALX500 body shell.
@@AirbusA-fb2qi D10A engine.
So glad you circled the wheel in the tumbnail or I would have missed it...
Lol
😂
😂
ruclips.net/video/-mMhKYJFOnQ/видео.html
when a car guy drives a bus
Edit: bus cannot do a burnout
Bus: HOLD MY BEER
Hold my *gasoline*
Hold my traction
@Nightfury Matthew no
Hold my tri axle.*
When a bus wants to be a Hellcat.
Yep
More like a Demon. :P
YEAHHHH !!!!!!
Nice pic of Virginia unit also hello fellow railfan
BNSF Fur4324 Do me a favor and get off my ass
ATTENTION ALL PASSENGERS....would everyone please make their way to the rear of the bus until futher notice.
Good burnout
And being paid by the vehicle owner by the hour while doing it. ;-)
I thought cool
Ou
Have a wonderful day today, good friend. Always be happy🥰
Car guyz: buses cannot do burnouts.
Bus: hold my fucking diesel
Welcome to "why is this in my recommended" [part 257]
Had the same trouble here in a truck (UK) stupid mid-lift axles that won't lift when you need them to. I got stuck on a sharp left hand bend on to a steep bridge one night in the wet and it was a nightmare to get going again. That was at 44 tonnes/100,000lbs all up though..
Yep. This is why all scandinavian trucks have rear lift axles.
OMG, that red high rise apartment is were I lived, I remember boarding the buses at the terminal
Look how greasy and slippery that patch of concrete was. On a slope and turn not help either. Very humid HK.
Fuck off, mate. Hong Kong always rain.
Kenneth Ng
Your taxi drivers are awfully racist as well.
@@JonathanChan212 Na, you fuck off. No need to have your panties in a wad due to informative comment.
@@GatlinburgFunHouse I came from Hong Kong, so I know the weather. If you aren't from Hong Kong, FUCK. OFF. YOU. BITCH!!!!
@@JonathanChan212 We're talking about a performance issue inefficiency with this bus, telling somebody to fuck off because he had a informative comment about the bus is fucktardish. Sure he says it's humid, who gives a fuck if it's raining everyday, the goddamn bus should not be doing that! Better tires, traction control and rear axle turning could solve these issues.
This is a weird chassis. Usally the middle axle is driven and the rear axle is steerable, this is the other way around. Just be thankful you don't have snow in Hong Kong, otherwise this thing wouldn't go anywhere.
Blame Volvo.
Dennis use this design for Trident 3, and other Volvo 3-axle bus too. But the Super Olympian/B10TL is a design that is modified from the Leyland/Volvo Olympian, which utilizes such layout. It wouldn‘t be until 2018 when Volvo releases the B8L that it finally ditches all the design relics from the Olympian era.
Me lembro quando a Prefeitura de São Paulo colocou esses ônibus para transporte público em São Paulo, acho que durou 1 mês !
Canal Misturadão u speak English pls this is hk
Kkkkkkkkk
Bus burnouts... Don't know that would happen.
SentenielRekterRBLX lel
This is how you wait at the traffic light in GTAV
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Looks like 3ASV Bus wants to have a race,BRING IT ON!!!!
because of open differential , when there have no grip on the left tire , it will send power to the wheel that is encountering the least resistance.
In moments like that it's good to have a hydraulic system the can raise the support axle because it would put more weight on the drive axle.
The bus layout makes no sense the front rear axle is supposed to be the drive axle because if you come to a speed bump or rail road crossing the hump will pull the rear wheels off the floor and it can't drive which is dangerous especially if on a railroad crossing or intersection. Another thing is the rear axles don't steer so you get tire scrub and they will make the bus turn wider and wear faster.
Most buses here in USA, have air suspension. The engine, transmission and drive axle are unitized at the rear end. The intermediate axle (tag axle)suspension in front of the drive axle can be depressurized, by a switch, putting all the weight on duel rear tires.
Steerable rear wheel axles are only used on exotic vehicles in USA, like extremely long transports. Too expensive to maintain for mass transit.
Eventually, DC electric wheel motors might replace cumbersome gears, joints, drive shafts, etc. Then all the wheels could be driven.
You raised some valid points. You should do design and engineering work.
The extra rear axle fitted in front of the drive has no power to it. it's only fitted to carry the extra weight of the air conditioner unit. On some surface angle this axle will cause traction to be lost on the drive axle. The driver just got his best drive line off a bit, the other drivers faired better, maybe a concrete planer is required if this is a frequent problem. I spent a year in HK and knew the chap in charge of building those buses, he told me about the extra axle.
I had the same problem trying to drive aboard a ferry where the ramp was to steep, in this case the drive axle was in front of the trailing axle. Laid some timbers and managed to get on.
Is it stuck or making fun of the bus
Wait i forgot its wet
1:28 what sound is this
拍片者事前好似知呢架bus會出煙既
Alan冼 塵59 Yan chiu lun 好似系条路问题
拍片者 車長 站長都唔似第一次見
Alan冼 塵59 Yan chiu lun 車上個女乘客反應好搞笑
Yes I totally agree with that.
This is litterally hot wheels
Tires didnt had good traction on that surface
Wow that was some serious wheelslip on the first one in the video.
Wheelspin*
0:20 It's Road Rage! Beat the Takedown Target for the win!
Brazilian way and ask everyone to go to the rear of the bus to the bus lowers and so get traction
巴西的方式，並要求每個人去公共汽車後方的公共汽車降低，所以獲得牽引力
dalison rocha first time to hear such method 😂
Makes sense
And that’s why (almost) all triple axles bus power the forward rear axle…
Yep. Also turning radius.
NO WAY MY BROTHER (3ASV) CAN DO THAT
HOW DID U KNOW MY LOCATION
PEELING! ;) That's why it's important to be able to let the air out of the tag axle air bags.
That isn’t a tag axle, a tag axle is behind the drive wheels try again!
Scania143m\8/ letting air out of the tag axle would put more weight on the drive axle ;)
...pusher axle.
Is the floor slippery???
有興趣可以落雨過黎慈雲山雲華街
唔駛一陣您就會有收穫
因為果度連MMC 都會冼...
Why did he stop in the first place
Is this what they meant by Hong Kong Donuts?
Buses can do burnouts. Well. This just became the most unrealistic world.
Welcome aboard the magic school bus where imagination runs wild and anything is possible
Clearly the bus is just trying to start a roadrage event.
Take one Burner, streets filled with traffic, a car filled with BOOST, spark the ignition and fly.
Gosh how does that happen?
Nice hellcat what model is that
We don’t know yet. It doesn’t even have a name yet
Volvo Super Olympian
哈哈，秘訣就是不是在讓線前停，後一點有點速度就可順利走過。
而且，明顯 skidding 軚，還那麼大油，萬一突然有回 fiction, 成架車推前撞欄杆都可以。
最後報告公司，放些加強 fiction 在那位置，就會更舒服。
Can't he lift the second axle
All Volvo B10TL 12m which belongs to Kowloon Moter bus in Hong Kong with retire within this year
After the Second time Drive became SMART.
The burnout was awesome!
No is not not awesome hurt the tire
How about two driven axles?
The diesel consumption would be to high, and its not needed on a bus
隔住個mon都好大浸味！
which idiot designed those buses?
if you have a non-articulated bus with three axles, there is ALWAYS the acceleration on the second and the steering on the third (and first of course), so things like this don't happen. but with "traction" on the third axle with another steering one right before, this is just unavoidable to happen.
The same opinion
that is easier. engine is in the rear.
It’s a Alexander Dennis😂that’s why
These crappy design decisions make me scream inside.
@connor meechan
It's a Volvo Super Olympian with Alexander Dennis bodywork actually
Worn out rubber and LSD?
I think it might have been an open differential and the other wheel just wasn’t spinning
inside outside upside downside
Trucks and buses all need and do have limited slip differentials (LSD:s) in order to get going. The masses are much larger than in cars ergo they are used.
RATTI all buses have an open diff where I live
Chris Thompson
I'll figure that you don't know much of heavy vehicle machinery, do you? LSDs are part of the drive axle almost always. In trucks and buses it's a must due to the weights involved.
RATTI well they don’t have them. I’ve seen. It’s stupid, but that’s how they were made
Wasnt this bus an 850 R5 T ?.
What happen cystic fibrosis ín Bus
what is wrong with the wheel.
HK?
冇經驗回直小小呔嗎
1:14 the kid in the front was ahead of his time
People in Asia always wear mask when sick
Is that in Hong Kong? Just asking
Yes
Mhm.
Looks like tire has not grip, which means it could use a bit of change
More like it could use AWD
They need to smoothen the air suspension to stick in the road
Why like that bus Tyre skiding
it was a bit slippery and the tyres may have lost traction
Just reduce the air in the tyre set in front of it to ensure proper contact, then it'll get traction.
It's not a car mate, most of the weight is biased towards the back so it isn't going to help except make the handling even worse than it is.
This bus has a manual transmission, that’s why the burnout was left there
Nah it has the ZF Ecomat automatic, faster than most gearboxes even on cars
The first driver didn't turn far enough and got in slowly. That's why it lost traction. Everyone else turned the corner and did it faster.
Why it is happened..
Alguien me puede explicar que le pasa este bus??????
1st bus drivers first day lol. Next 3 buses filmed to show how it should be done
driven and undriven wheel should maybe change places to maximize friction
有效果真實施以為主題樂園成功辦理後事了了事🤣🤣🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😂🤣🤣
The passenger in the car said, Oh, no, is it on fire?
Momentum always helps.
thank you for sharing!
since when lol
thats why LSD (Limited Slip Differential) is needed in bus
Nice one !!!!
タイヤとホイールがくっついてない？
Один вопрос :кааааак можно забуксовать на ровном месте
Is in side but all can’t see
The answer is don't slow down or stop.
The answer is installing AWD or 6x6 drive.
Why is the 😊 bus
No diff lock on that bus, bus is heavy, going up hill does not make it any better when it rains or snow.
Who in the fresh hell designed a tri-axle bus with the most rear axle pushing all the mass ? It's supposed to be the forward-rear axle pulling the last one, and this would have probably not happened, or at least not as badly
Is that rear axle also steering axle or no
The forward rear axle looks like it is a steering axle. Which is weird, it’s supposed to be the last axle that steers.
Volvo buses does it, I think it has to do with the engine layout as well: Volvo put their engines sideways (transversely) in the engine bay, driveshaft comes out from the right rear quarter area and drives the most rear axle. Others (i.e. Dennis Enviro 500) put their engine longitudinally in the engine bay, the entire drivetrain is offset to the left, and drive the forward-rear axle.
@@JReastHei why would they do that so complicated, except if they make it low floor , for easy access , but every bus i saw, Setra, Scania/Van Hool, Neoplan,Vdl, have longitudinal engine , clutch+gearbox then retarder,and diff, and rear front axle is driven and last rear is steering axle.
This is very possible. Scania for example also have them longitudinally and drive the front rear axle.
You need AWD bus for this route.
Cheers from Indonesia
The tyre can't grip due to turn bald, have to replace the new one .
No. 6x6 drive is the solution.
@@elzbietaczerw9294 6x6 drive in a bus will never happen
This is why busses like these has difflock and all rear axle drive
根本上就係個車呔冇氣 頭担有氣尾担冇氣 咪跣胎個司機常半路 爆呔 咪可以收工囉
Nam Wong 應該調返轉，胎氣足因接觸面減少會較易冼胎。
世界之大無奇不有。
Wow, so many non HKers here...
Nice Burnout
The passengers are scared 😂😂😂
光頭軚加暗斜路當然skid 啦！
Nice catch
When you can't afford a Ferrari
😂😂😂😂😂😂
That bus could easily cost as much as a ferrari
@@henriquedantas5748 depends
KY Jelly did this.
Both rear tyre has no grip .
Next level doubledeck bendy busses
sahrp corner. double axle in the back maybe even a slight incline around the corner.
this is the result. and maybe the street itself since it seems pretty bullshit material
Thats not skidding. Skidding is when you accidentally enter a drift when turning too hard at high speed.
光頭呔？？？？？氣多了？？有些補呔？外面。波箱無瓦可能，仲開車？一
Wai. Hing Chan 都話係石屎地抓地力不足
（ 記住係石屎地！唔關條呔事！）
搞到跣軚
明明係車胎問題, 瀨地硬呀?