@Musical Whiskey I think you'll be ok... It's so far, perfectly useable for me on 32gb.... I got two slots for doubling ram if needed in the future though lol.
Since I got the DISCOVERY version I felt in love with BBC Symphony Orchestra. Yesterday...after maybe 1 year, finally decide to buy the CORE thanks to the apex discount. what can I say... IS GORGEOUS! AND THANK YOU Spitfire Audio for this amazing instrument and chance to get it! Big hug for you all! Let's keep creating amazing music for this world
Whenever I listen to virtual instruments' demos, I try to pay attention to when the sounds or arrangements start to get artificial. It never happens when it comes to this library. Everything outrageously sounds realistic and genuine. Well done Spitfire
Same here. My composition students (who are just getting started) all got discover. It’s an amazing thing for them and for me. Hopefully as they grow and develop into professionals, they will become loyal Spitfire customers.
I’m really trying to keep a tight budget, and you all graciously gifted me Discover, thank you! I was sure I’d just run with that for now. Then I heard the samples in my headphones... and then I saw I had the $49 deducted from core, even though you gifted it! Wow. Who does that?? I think you can guess the outcome: $300 charge on my Visa card now, lol. Pro eventually but Core is SO WORTH IT. That’s chump change for a full integrated orchestral library of a real orchestra. I get it now. Game changer.
On REAPER, here - template would be the bee's knees. Core looks like the way to go for me. You're quite the salesman. Damn you Christian Henson ... and bless you, too.
@@NicStride A couple of people have made them in the Spitfire users group on Facebook. I made my own one with very basic routing for Discover. I just had a track per articulation going to a section bus, then the section bus going to an orchestra bus with each section having a verb send. It's very basic but it gets the job done. Only took about half an hour to make.
The graphic comparison featuring the differences in resolution and saturation convinced me to upgrade from Discovery to Core. Grand! One of the best decisions of late.
While I don't write orchestral compositions I do write orchestral-inspired elements into my productions, I thank you so much for providing me with a free copy of Discover. When financially able, I will most certainly be purchasing Core!
wow, christian is the first founder/CEO of an audio software developement company that i believe really stands behind their product. the way he is amazed by the work of his employees really makes me wanna buy this stuff. so either that or he is a brilliant actor... :D
Congratulations on presenting us with a completely new way of building up a great library. This would be a wonderful platform to give us the ability to work with the unique sounds of different orchestras from around the world!
I absolutely love how detailed and informative this is. Really helps me understand the differences! (And the production quality is fantastic, it's hard to find "un-fluffed" walkthroughs of sample libraries!)
Discover is such a great idea for beginners but also to have a sample. I also started with Discover and bought Core because of that, one of the greatest vstplugins for orchestra.
The Way I saw it, and the reason I chose Core over Pro is that Discover is for everyone, no matter if you're learning or just want to add some colour to your work, Core is for composers that need the full instrumental pallet ready and Pro is more for producers and mixers that fine tune the composer's work for broadcast (though in many cases that job overlaps with the composer's job).
I've gone and made my own template for Studio One. I found the one on te Spitfire site a bit complex for my tastes, so I just made one with each of the instruments, and some setup for Articulation switching. Then I threw in a channel for my drum plugin of choice (Addictive Drums, setup with Fairfax kit), 3 audio channels for Bass and a pair of Guitars, a group for Kontakt and some midi channels to feed it and a pair of channels for vocals. So far, its all great. I'll probably add some printing tracks to generate stems for later mixing. Still gotta work out a good way to build up "pad" orchestrations.... But its all working good so far. Oh one big thing. It appears Studio One and Spitfire have very different ideas on where C0 lies on a piano.
This is probably one of the best libraries I have come across so far. The mode switching function is a game changer. Can you please make a video on the different templates you have created for Logic, Cubase and other DAWs and explain a little? That will be a great help. Thanks a ton.
Got my copy of Core the day it came out and I still can't believe how good it sounds and how much value for the money you get. BTW when I use the multiple instances template (cubase) from the spitfire page I can work my way around the problem with not being able to unload articulations, as each track comes (probably set from Pro) with only a few articulations loaded (they're separated in legato, longs, shorts and fx). As all tracks are disabled when you open it you can really just pick and choose wich articulations to use.
The Core and the mix is absolutely amazing. I just spent the weekend refining my new BBC template for my updated Reaper DAW system, and it runs like a dream. Many thanks for yet another enlightening video Christian!
Would be really nice to know if you're going to add the ability to unload articulations into Core. As it has been pointed out elsewhere, this is available in Pro and all of the other Spitfire libraries. I personally think it is going to put a lot of people off buying. It is the only reason I'm holding back at the moment.
@@TheCrowHillCo Absolutely brilliant. Any ideas when this will be? Obviously would like to purchase this while the introductory sales period is still on.
@@TheCrowHillCo Hi Christian, will this be a free update if we buy Core right now to benefit from the sale? Thanks so much I will probably buy it today!
I hope there won’t come a day when I regret being an early purchaser of pro, a day when you can’t reasonably make a case that pro is seriously superior to core. That’s a lot of money for mic positions. But I do applaud the discover give away, that helps a lot of folks get started.
Just got my download code today. Really impressed with the gui in general though it needs icons in each section to help the eye. I use cinematic studio strings which has the best legato I’ve ever heard but I really appreciated the response. Probably at the very least brilliant for the actual composing part of things due to its speed
Please add the ability to load and unload articulations! The library is great , but this is such a basic feature, i am really surprised it didnt make it's way from the pro version.
Core was a yes for me, and very very pleased with it, especially now I've worked out that expression map outputs need to be 1 octave lower than specified to work with Cubase ! Why is middle C C4 with Spitfire, just out of interest ? That's no where near the middle of an 88 note keyboard !
Ill buy CORE when you have a template for Digital Performer. Please make that soon. :) ............................Also, for those reading, I use a Yamaha s90xs for a controller. great keyboard feel, has SAW remote that can be mapped easily and can be found online for around the same price as top-of-the-line controller. It also comes loaded with all the sounds of the MOTIF line of Yamaha keyboards S90 pianos included. Just wanted to mention that since i read below there are lots of questions asking about good controllers.
have been trying to decide between going with core for a fuller orchestral library (percussion, etc) or picking up the Spitfire Studio brass and woodwinds to go with the strings... tough decision, so thanks for giving us until the 31st!
It would be really cool to add the extended woodwinds from pro into core but excluding the extra mic positions. I know, it’s a big ask... :). I miss not having a Cor Anglais.
This is truly impressive! I looked at the website, and the playing techniques your libraries offer really support 20th and 21st century composers! What I did NOT find out is whether there is a different amount of playing techniques available between the CORE and the PRO version? According to what you say most likely not. But just in case there are more playing techniques available in PRO, would you mind to put a link where they can be found? (The "What you get" menu option on the website does not list the playing techniques in this particular case as it does with other libs; probably because the list would be incredibly long.) Personally. what would interest me as a viewer who has no Spitfire library ATM would be an introduction to the Orchestra's percussion instruments and how to use them. Thank you very much! Feeling very motivated!
Okay -- you've convinced me even though this doesn't have UACC (still hate keyswitches for articulations but if I have to buy another keyboard just to do it I will). Bought and downloading.
@@danielmartinezflamenco You're asking ME? Hey, I'm not the expert here. Ask Christian. But if I were buying ANOTHER keyboard I'd make sure it was a full 88 key one (to use these keys). Either that or get at least 61 with pads you can remap to other keys (I'm using the Akai MPK261).
Very inspiring. I have written a lot of music. I am a 71 year old guitarist first (advanced) and somewhat basic on keyboards. I read music and notation. I am going to break myself in with Discover mainly cos I need to learn orchestration and I thank you for your 2 videos on that. I am using a 5 year old Novation launchkey 49 right now, looking at your NI M32 and are you still using Yamaha P60, which the P45 seems to be modern equivalent. Should I get one of those or semi weighted with aftertouch be sufficent. Help please in that area. I want a keyboard specifically to orchestrate. Once I have something in Discover I like and find I am capable I will move up to Core and upgrade my Novation. Thank you for any recommendation and help you are able to give.
I haven´t even watch the video, but oh you marketing geniuses! Give me the free version, explain the limitations, put a contest so i can participate with my new free orchetsa, then make me fell weak when the other participants sound amaizing with their paid libraries and make me think it is becasue of the librearies and not becasue i am a noob. While you post, a few days after realeasing discover, this video. Is just imopsible not to buy the upgrade..... this happened to a friend by the way
Hi, Could you please do a video showing how to do articulation sets with BBCSO Core, because so far I have not been successful and getting stressed over it !! When I say articulation sets , I mean being able to change the articulation of specific notes via the Piano roll in logic Pro X with the BBCSO Plugin. Thank you!!
Love the videos. I fell in love with Spitfire sonic textures several years ago and ready for motor. If I was to upgrade my currently Albion's to all the Albions (to form orch central- so to speak), how does this compare to getting the full Pro BBC version instead. Anyone? Nice work on the App too.
Hi, thanks for the video. Just I have one question, different from Spitfire Strings, there i can assign a Ccmidi control to the articulation, but here i can't see any option to do that, so we must work with all the articulations opens on tracks into the session? Thanks
Thanks for this, very exciting, and just what I need to get cracking after a very very long break from writing. I will be going for Core, after much deliberation over which of your many libraries available to buy! It is a shame Bass Clarinet isn't in core. My question is about articulations - do we need to create a separate track for each articulation for each instrument, or is there another way to switch? I'm not very good at that side of things, though I am trying to learn.
In case you haven't found out in the two years since your original comment, you can assign keys outside of the instrument's range to select different articulations (default is octave -1). Man I love this product
I use Core, with some other libraries to supplement the missing instruments that Pro has. One thing really bugs me (and it wasn't fixed in the patch that fixed the legato) and that is the xfade on the solo horn long patch. It comes in way to early and it's a very harsh sound. horns a4 does it way better. please tweak!
Think about buying this. Use Eastwests old Hollywood Stuff, but fell in love w/ the sound of BBC core through Discover. Not sure if it will run. System Requirements say I need AMD Ryzen, but I have AMD FX(tm)-6300 Six-Core, 3.50 GHz w/ 16GB Ram. Will this work? No problem w/ Discover or Abbey Road Wonderous Flutes.
I bought Core a few months ago having despaired of finding an orchestra to play my sax concerto, and am quite staggered by its power and realism. However one thing I am finding a struggle is rhythmic accuracy, particularly in fast passages, and adjusting for the different attack times of different instruments and articulations. Maybe a video to advise on this?
Delighted with Core. I was put off Pro by the enormous size of the library. I too would like to be able to unload articulations not needed - the pencil icon for doing this is shown in the Core manual - but doesn't exist in reality. Pity. Easy to fix in an update maybe? I'm using Spitfire solo strings to get the 'leaders' and using the close mics only it works really well.
I wonder if I use Spitfire Studio strings in the same manner as mentionned above if they would incorporate fine... they where NOT recorded in the same studio. Air studio One for Studio Strings and BBC was recorded at London’s famous Maida Vale Studios. @christianhenson your opinionof they would blend well? Thanks
I bought Core bec of this video and I'm extremely satisfied! Would it be possible to have a copy of this Logic File, to better learn the articulation and expression moves you did?
You should really create templates for Reaper since it's super stable and quick with BBC SO (more than Live and PtoTools on PC) and it's also accessible to the blind.
I have Discovery. The string sounds, especially violins, all have a noticeable quick increase in volume in the LONG mode, regardless of which settings I try (all the velocity profiles). I am looking for a steady-volume string sound. Is this something I can only get in CORE, or is there a way to achieve it in Discovery?? Thanks!
Thanks as always great content - I have a suggestion for a topic maybe you're interested: How to setup a midi controller for film scoring. I think it can be a really confusing topic because most controllers arent really made for that. And also I feel like there is not real standard on how parameters are mapped.
I bought the core edition and love it, but........... Do you think there will ever be an option add either the close mics or “mix 2” hyped mix? I will never be able to justify the cost of an upgrade to the professional version personally, but I would pay a lesser cost just to add extra mic/mix options. Not all the mic options as I realise the size of what that would add, even just Jakes Mix 2. I think it would help make the core version more versatile and useable in more circumstances. The mix 1 sound is a bit underwhelming for some of the instruments when trying to go for something more intense/aggressive. Thanks 😊👍
The thing is, from my point of view, that Core it's too cheap for what it is. Even with only 1 mic. So when you upgrade to Pro you are paying for the quality that you already have. They are "loosing" money when you only buy Core hoping that you will love it and wanted more so you will pay the Pro. I hope that you understand what I say. I mean, I also have Core and I would love more mics, but things are as they are.
I'm still torn between this or Albion One.. I know Christian mentioned in another video that Albion One is a go-to for him because he comes from the world of production/EDM and that is also where I am coming from. I'm just looking to make a purchase to get started on orchestral programming and would like to have the freedom of individual instruments that BBCSO offers over Albion One but also am not sure if that makes the learning curve that much harder for me?
Hi Christian. Thank you so much for the video. I already use core and really love it. I will definetly upgrade to pro as soon as possible. My question is: what kind of hardware would you recommend to make sure that the library can be used without any problems even with big orchesteal compositions? What kind of hardware do you use for yourself? Thx in advance
Would this be a good choice for doing 60s-70s style Library Music if combined with other instruments (guitar, bass, drums, percussion) from elsewhere? I’m not sure what a could orchestral library would be for this. I’m also looking at BHCT.
Yes you can use it for 60s-70s style orchestration. I use the Discover version in many of my 50s and 60s song covers. If you add tape saturation and vintage style effects it will sound like a 50s or 60s orchestra.
I would buy CORE right now if there is an upgrade path to move to PRO in the future, there doesn't seem to be an upgrade price from Core to Pro on the website?
From the Spitfire website: "There is an upgrade path between BBC Symphony Orchestra Discover, Core and Professional. The price you pay to upgrade from one edition to another is simply the price difference between the two products at the point of purchase. Owners of any edition can view their price by ensuring they are logged in to our website then clicking ‘Add to Cart’ on the edition they wish to upgrade to."
Hi Chris, what is your fader midi controller, look like block of faders. Looks like no other fader midi controller and I really want to buy it, I'm using alot of Spitfire Audio libraries as well. But don't know where to get, thanks
I will stick with Discover as I just use it for backing tracks with other VSTs and libraries such as Halion 6, Kontakt Factory and freebies, even with something like Sonatina. Obviously the Core and Pro versions are way better. I would buy Core if I was composing trailer music commercially but Discover is more than acceptable for amateurs.
I created a String Ensemble score in Dorico 5 and have BBC Core as VST but everytime I assign a sound to a channel (e.g. Violin 1 channel 1... 2 for 2... etc.); It is only saving the last sound I saved! What am I missing... This is driving me crazy. Never had the issue with EW, Garritan, Vienna, etc.
Hello. I have the Core version but there's one thing that eludes me. If I do a piece for strings for example in Discover and then want to move to Core then I have to copy that piece over multiple instruments, yes? So, if I have harmonies played on one MIDI track I have to separate them into single instruments to get the same result, yes? Or am I completely missing the point? (still a noob with all this :D )
Does the core edition allow you to select how you trigger a technique? I see in the manual it says you could switch between triggering an articulation with a key switch or, lets say, a midi channel. I know however that sometimes manuals are reused between versions. At any rate, this is such a wonderful library and I can't wait until I can finally get it!
My only valid option is the BBC Symphony Orchestra because it comes as a pluggin. I can't afford the high priced DAW's so I went with Cakewalk and so far it's my saving grace. Discovery may not be broadcast-worthy, but I'll have to make it work.
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Bought pro version during the Christmas sale. Still downloading...
lol
It'll still be relevant next Christmas once it's finished :)
Same lol
@Musical Whiskey I think you'll be ok... It's so far, perfectly useable for me on 32gb.... I got two slots for doubling ram if needed in the future though lol.
lol! Good one.
Since I got the DISCOVERY version I felt in love with BBC Symphony Orchestra. Yesterday...after maybe 1 year, finally decide to buy the CORE thanks to the apex discount.
what can I say...
IS GORGEOUS!
AND THANK YOU Spitfire Audio for this amazing instrument and chance to get it!
Big hug for you all!
Let's keep creating amazing music for this world
Whenever I listen to virtual instruments' demos, I try to pay attention to when the sounds or arrangements start to get artificial. It never happens when it comes to this library. Everything outrageously sounds realistic and genuine. Well done Spitfire
Especially the woodwinds. When everyone says "wow, did you upgrade - that sounds realistic?" Even non-musicians.
I went with Core for now. This combined with other Spitfire libraries (and others) is exceptional!
Same here. My composition students (who are just getting started) all got discover. It’s an amazing thing for them and for me. Hopefully as they grow and develop into professionals, they will become loyal Spitfire customers.
I’m really trying to keep a tight budget, and you all graciously gifted me Discover, thank you! I was sure I’d just run with that for now. Then I heard the samples in my headphones... and then I saw I had the $49 deducted from core, even though you gifted it! Wow. Who does that?? I think you can guess the outcome: $300 charge on my Visa card now, lol. Pro eventually but Core is SO WORTH IT. That’s chump change for a full integrated orchestral library of a real orchestra. I get it now. Game changer.
Me too :D when I saw that I had to support this insane mentality and bought the pro version instead of core spitfire don’t do half things!
Keep it up
Exact same thing happened to me. No shame and no regrets. Love this library so much
We miss You Chris and your videos 😭
what do you mean? Did he die?
Got Discovery, bought Core :) It's a shame you did not retain the pictorial selection graphic in Core too.
100% agree! I love the UI of discover!
I recently purchased the Core version and It is simply incredible and I am so pleased that some of the payment goes back to the musicians.
On REAPER, here - template would be the bee's knees. Core looks like the way to go for me. You're quite the salesman. Damn you Christian Henson ... and bless you, too.
Boot Hamilton Reaper user here too. I would love a template
Reaper please! If anything they have a similar philosophy with Discover BBC SO bringing affordable but powerful software to any creative.
Would love a Reaper template also!
Has anyone made one yet? :)
@@NicStride A couple of people have made them in the Spitfire users group on Facebook. I made my own one with very basic routing for Discover. I just had a track per articulation going to a section bus, then the section bus going to an orchestra bus with each section having a verb send. It's very basic but it gets the job done. Only took about half an hour to make.
Love this dude....
Greetings from Germany🇩🇪❤️
The graphic comparison featuring the differences in resolution and saturation convinced me to upgrade from Discovery to Core. Grand! One of the best decisions of late.
Thank you for your generous spirit. These tools are really excellent for those of us touching the hem of great possibilities.
While I don't write orchestral compositions I do write orchestral-inspired elements into my productions, I thank you so much for providing me with a free copy of Discover. When financially able, I will most certainly be purchasing Core!
I love the way you communicate.
wow, christian is the first founder/CEO of an audio software developement company that i believe really stands behind their product. the way he is amazed by the work of his employees really makes me wanna buy this stuff. so either that or he is a brilliant actor... :D
"bold man"... haha.. I love you ♥
Discover has opened so many doors for me. Core will do more!
Incredible demonstration of resolution. You answered question I wanted to know about Core and Professional. I have been so impressed by the BBCSO.
Brilliant Christian and a BIG thank you to all the players of the BBC SO.
Could there be a video for tips on orchestration? I think that would be very helpful.
My free Discover download is amazing. I'm not employed at the moment, so I appreciate Spitfire Audio's approach to this library.
Congratulations on presenting us with a completely new way of building up a great library. This would be a wonderful platform to give us the ability to work with the unique sounds of different orchestras from around the world!
I absolutely love how detailed and informative this is. Really helps me understand the differences! (And the production quality is fantastic, it's hard to find "un-fluffed" walkthroughs of sample libraries!)
I wish Core had a bass clarinet. I use that instrument a lot in orchestral writing.
Core is phenomenal. The program sounds incredible and is incredibly intuitive to use and manipulate the different parameters in real time.
Thanks for making Discover free. I'm just starting out in orchestral arrangements as a hobby and this has made your fantastic sounds accessible to me.
Discover is such a great idea for beginners but also to have a sample.
I also started with Discover and bought Core because of that, one of the greatest vstplugins for orchestra.
1:16 OMG IT'S THE MUSIC TO THE BEST SALES PITCH EVER
15:26 for comparison between Core and Discover
Great Company 👍
The Way I saw it, and the reason I chose Core over Pro is that Discover is for everyone, no matter if you're learning or just want to add some colour to your work, Core is for composers that need the full instrumental pallet ready and Pro is more for producers and mixers that fine tune the composer's work for broadcast (though in many cases that job overlaps with the composer's job).
I bought Discover. A week later I bought Core and then treated myself to Solo Violin.
He’s not camera shy it’s in the family. Great use of genes for a marvellous project. Thank you.
Another great video. Thanks Spitfire. My Free library just arrived!! Really in the mood of buying the Core one. Awesome improvments.
Thank you Christian! I went for Core, and will update to Pro when I run out of road :)
Will there be any discount as you’ve already bought the Core?
I've gone and made my own template for Studio One. I found the one on te Spitfire site a bit complex for my tastes, so I just made one with each of the instruments, and some setup for Articulation switching. Then I threw in a channel for my drum plugin of choice (Addictive Drums, setup with Fairfax kit), 3 audio channels for Bass and a pair of Guitars, a group for Kontakt and some midi channels to feed it and a pair of channels for vocals. So far, its all great. I'll probably add some printing tracks to generate stems for later mixing. Still gotta work out a good way to build up "pad" orchestrations.... But its all working good so far. Oh one big thing. It appears Studio One and Spitfire have very different ideas on where C0 lies on a piano.
Wow! That sounds amazing. Im loving spitfire more and more! Best company for orchestral and cinematic composers!
This is probably one of the best libraries I have come across so far. The mode switching function is a game changer. Can you please make a video on the different templates you have created for Logic, Cubase and other DAWs and explain a little? That will be a great help. Thanks a ton.
Got my copy of Core the day it came out and I still can't believe how good it sounds and how much value for the money you get. BTW when I use the multiple instances template (cubase) from the spitfire page I can work my way around the problem with not being able to unload articulations, as each track comes (probably set from Pro) with only a few articulations loaded (they're separated in legato, longs, shorts and fx). As all tracks are disabled when you open it you can really just pick and choose wich articulations to use.
Been using Discover for a while now, I REALLY want this now!!! XD
The Core and the mix is absolutely amazing. I just spent the weekend refining my new BBC template for my updated Reaper DAW system, and it runs like a dream. Many thanks for yet another enlightening video Christian!
B Tidelius Please please please would you share your template? I am on Reaper and would really appreciate it!!
I love the sound of the Bassoon legato at 16:23! Can't wait to get it for myself!
Would be really nice to know if you're going to add the ability to unload articulations into Core. As it has been pointed out elsewhere, this is available in Pro and all of the other Spitfire libraries. I personally think it is going to put a lot of people off buying. It is the only reason I'm holding back at the moment.
Same
Marvin Schluckauf yes Paul and I have requested they switch this function on in core. Next update!
Christian Henson Music yay!
@@TheCrowHillCo Absolutely brilliant. Any ideas when this will be? Obviously would like to purchase this while the introductory sales period is still on.
@@TheCrowHillCo Hi Christian, will this be a free update if we buy Core right now to benefit from the sale? Thanks so much I will probably buy it today!
thank you - great explanation
Well worth listing Christian. The core sounds like the target for me. Thanks. Dave
A really nice way of explaining it!
I hope there won’t come a day when I regret being an early purchaser of pro, a day when you can’t reasonably make a case that pro is seriously superior to core. That’s a lot of money for mic positions. But I do applaud the discover give away, that helps a lot of folks get started.
Thanks for this, very informative and a nice use of metaphor too.
Spitfire please let Core unload and load articulations!
There is no need for this! Simply - get the bigger RAM, and use all articulations at once, it is much much better and simpler to write your score!
@@1slowstar all well if your MB allows for that option, others may have to buy a newer PC just to get that option, so not so easy.
Just got my download code today. Really impressed with the gui in general though it needs icons in each section to help the eye. I use cinematic studio strings which has the best legato I’ve ever heard but I really appreciated the response. Probably at the very least brilliant for the actual composing part of things due to its speed
BBCSO Core is Great! I Want This !
Please add the ability to load and unload articulations! The library is great , but this is such a basic feature, i am really surprised it didnt make it's way from the pro version.
sorry but what are articulations??
It's been added apparently!
@@afrosymphony8207 articulations are the syle of playing the instrument.
i.e. long, spicatto, stacatto, etc.
Sucked into the world of orchestras via Discover . . .Now bought Core, and it is freakin' amazing!!!!!!
Avidly watching, I hope the answer is yes, because I already bought it, and have had to order a new computer to run it :-)
Great video. I've got Discover and this made me decide to pick up Core.
Can we get a midi file of this piece? I really wanna see how you orchestrated it. Thank you for making such an amazing piece of music.
I just bought PRO. Really looking forward to sinking my teeth into it.
How is PRO going? I just pulled the trigger on Core.
Thanks Christian, great info!
DAW: PreSonus Studio One 4.6
A tutorial on building a small template would be useful. Does a tutorial already exist?
Core was a yes for me, and very very pleased with it, especially now I've worked out that expression map outputs need to be 1 octave lower than specified to work with Cubase ! Why is middle C C4 with Spitfire, just out of interest ? That's no where near the middle of an 88 note keyboard !
This video really helped to understand the differences. Btw, when are you planning on writing the screenplay for Edmund Blackadder's next adventure?
Ill buy CORE when you have a template for Digital Performer. Please make that soon. :) ............................Also, for those reading, I use a Yamaha s90xs for a controller. great keyboard feel, has SAW remote that can be mapped easily and can be found online for around the same price as top-of-the-line controller. It also comes loaded with all the sounds of the MOTIF line of Yamaha keyboards S90 pianos included. Just wanted to mention that since i read below there are lots of questions asking about good controllers.
have been trying to decide between going with core for a fuller orchestral library (percussion, etc) or picking up the Spitfire Studio brass and woodwinds to go with the strings... tough decision, so thanks for giving us until the 31st!
So can we use UACC with this? Because I really HATE keyswitches (and you have UACC with all the rest of your libraries).
It would be really cool to add the extended woodwinds from pro into core but excluding the extra mic positions. I know, it’s a big ask... :). I miss not having a Cor Anglais.
This is truly impressive! I looked at the website, and the playing techniques your libraries offer really support 20th and 21st century composers! What I did NOT find out is whether there is a different amount of playing techniques available between the CORE and the PRO version? According to what you say most likely not. But just in case there are more playing techniques available in PRO, would you mind to put a link where they can be found? (The "What you get" menu option on the website does not list the playing techniques in this particular case as it does with other libs; probably because the list would be incredibly long.)
Personally. what would interest me as a viewer who has no Spitfire library ATM would be an introduction to the Orchestra's percussion instruments and how to use them.
Thank you very much! Feeling very motivated!
Okay -- you've convinced me even though this doesn't have UACC (still hate keyswitches for articulations but if I have to buy another keyboard just to do it I will). Bought and downloading.
Which keyboard you think is the best option for? Thanks
@@danielmartinezflamenco You're asking ME? Hey, I'm not the expert here. Ask Christian. But if I were buying ANOTHER keyboard I'd make sure it was a full 88 key one (to use these keys). Either that or get at least 61 with pads you can remap to other keys (I'm using the Akai MPK261).
Very inspiring. I have written a lot of music. I am a 71 year old guitarist first (advanced) and somewhat basic on keyboards. I read music and notation. I am going to break myself in with Discover mainly cos I need to learn orchestration and I thank you for your 2 videos on that. I am using a 5 year old Novation launchkey 49 right now, looking at your NI M32 and are you still using Yamaha P60, which the P45 seems to be modern equivalent. Should I get one of those or semi weighted with aftertouch be sufficent. Help please in that area. I want a keyboard specifically to orchestrate. Once I have something in Discover I like and find I am capable I will move up to Core and upgrade my Novation. Thank you for any recommendation and help you are able to give.
Brilliant! Any chance of a routing walk through for the templates?
I haven´t even watch the video, but oh you marketing geniuses! Give me the free version, explain the limitations, put a contest so i can participate with my new free orchetsa, then make me fell weak when the other participants sound amaizing with their paid libraries and make me think it is becasue of the librearies and not becasue i am a noob. While you post, a few days after realeasing discover, this video. Is just imopsible not to buy the upgrade..... this happened to a friend by the way
Hi, Could you please do a video showing how to do articulation sets with BBCSO Core, because so far I have not been successful and getting stressed over it !!
When I say articulation sets , I mean being able to change the articulation of specific notes via the Piano roll in logic Pro X with the BBCSO Plugin.
Thank you!!
Love the videos. I fell in love with Spitfire sonic textures several years ago and ready for motor. If I was to upgrade my currently Albion's to all the Albions (to form orch central- so to speak), how does this compare to getting the full Pro BBC version instead. Anyone? Nice work on the App too.
Hi, thanks for the video. Just I have one question, different from Spitfire Strings, there i can assign a Ccmidi control to the articulation, but here i can't see any option to do that, so we must work with all the articulations opens on tracks into the session? Thanks
You can use the low -2 keys on the keyboard as keyswitches I believe. If there is a way of mapping these to MIDI though, I'm not sure.
Thanks for this, very exciting, and just what I need to get cracking after a very very long break from writing. I will be going for Core, after much deliberation over which of your many libraries available to buy! It is a shame Bass Clarinet isn't in core. My question is about articulations - do we need to create a separate track for each articulation for each instrument, or is there another way to switch? I'm not very good at that side of things, though I am trying to learn.
In case you haven't found out in the two years since your original comment, you can assign keys outside of the instrument's range to select different articulations (default is octave -1). Man I love this product
Templates for Studio One, pleeeease :)
@@citizenworld8094 What is S1 5?
I use Core, with some other libraries to supplement the missing instruments that Pro has. One thing really bugs me (and it wasn't fixed in the patch that fixed the legato) and that is the xfade on the solo horn long patch. It comes in way to early and it's a very harsh sound. horns a4 does it way better. please tweak!
Think about buying this. Use Eastwests old Hollywood Stuff, but fell in love w/ the sound of BBC core through Discover. Not sure if it will run. System Requirements say I need AMD Ryzen, but I have AMD FX(tm)-6300 Six-Core, 3.50 GHz w/ 16GB Ram. Will this work? No problem w/ Discover or Abbey Road Wonderous Flutes.
I bought Core a few months ago having despaired of finding an orchestra to play my sax concerto, and am quite staggered by its power and realism. However one thing I am finding a struggle is rhythmic accuracy, particularly in fast passages, and adjusting for the different attack times of different instruments and articulations. Maybe a video to advise on this?
Delighted with Core. I was put off Pro by the enormous size of the library. I too would like to be able to unload articulations not needed - the pencil icon for doing this is shown in the Core manual - but doesn't exist in reality. Pity. Easy to fix in an update maybe? I'm using Spitfire solo strings to get the 'leaders' and using the close mics only it works really well.
I wonder if I use Spitfire Studio strings in the same manner as mentionned above if they would incorporate fine... they where NOT recorded in the same studio. Air studio One for Studio Strings and BBC was recorded at London’s famous Maida Vale Studios. @christianhenson your opinionof they would blend well? Thanks
Just add more RAM, and forget problem about unloading! I think 32 gigs of RAM is quite enough!
I bought Core bec of this video and I'm extremely satisfied! Would it be possible to have a copy of this Logic File, to better learn the articulation and expression moves you did?
SF can you please allow purge articulations on core? I don’t understand why that’s a feature in Pro but not in Core
It'll be back in Core very soon!
You should really create templates for Reaper since it's super stable and quick with BBC SO (more than Live and PtoTools on PC) and it's also accessible to the blind.
hi this is great thanks for this video do you do mix ?
I have Discovery. The string sounds, especially violins, all have a noticeable quick increase in volume in the LONG mode, regardless of which settings I try (all the velocity profiles). I am looking for a steady-volume string sound. Is this something I can only get in CORE, or is there a way to achieve it in Discovery?? Thanks!
Is there a MIDI programming tutorial for this Dance Macabre piece? If not, would love to hear it for the Discover or Core!
Thanks as always great content - I have a suggestion for a topic maybe you're interested: How to setup a midi controller for film scoring. I think it can be a really confusing topic because most controllers arent really made for that. And also I feel like there is not real standard on how parameters are mapped.
I bought the core edition and love it, but...........
Do you think there will ever be an option add either the close mics or “mix 2” hyped mix?
I will never be able to justify the cost of an upgrade to the professional version personally, but I would pay a lesser cost just to add extra mic/mix options. Not all the mic options as I realise the size of what that would add, even just Jakes Mix 2.
I think it would help make the core version more versatile and useable in more circumstances. The mix 1 sound is a bit underwhelming for some of the instruments when trying to go for something more intense/aggressive.
Thanks 😊👍
The thing is, from my point of view, that Core it's too cheap for what it is. Even with only 1 mic. So when you upgrade to Pro you are paying for the quality that you already have.
They are "loosing" money when you only buy Core hoping that you will love it and wanted more so you will pay the Pro. I hope that you understand what I say.
I mean, I also have Core and I would love more mics, but things are as they are.
I'm still torn between this or Albion One.. I know Christian mentioned in another video that Albion One is a go-to for him because he comes from the world of production/EDM and that is also where I am coming from. I'm just looking to make a purchase to get started on orchestral programming and would like to have the freedom of individual instruments that BBCSO offers over Albion One but also am not sure if that makes the learning curve that much harder for me?
Very good info thanks
Hi Christian. Thank you so much for the video. I already use core and really love it. I will definetly upgrade to pro as soon as possible. My question is: what kind of hardware would you recommend to make sure that the library can be used without any problems even with big orchesteal compositions? What kind of hardware do you use for yourself? Thx in advance
Would this be a good choice for doing 60s-70s style Library Music if combined with other instruments (guitar, bass, drums, percussion) from elsewhere? I’m not sure what a could orchestral library would be for this. I’m also looking at BHCT.
Yes you can use it for 60s-70s style orchestration. I use the Discover version in many of my 50s and 60s
song covers. If you add tape saturation and vintage style effects it will sound like a 50s or 60s orchestra.
I wish I was richer!!! I would love to buy core + some of the other libraries. But I’m just a hobbyist, so the investment doesn’t make sense...
I would buy CORE right now if there is an upgrade path to move to PRO in the future,
there doesn't seem to be an upgrade price from Core to Pro on the website?
If you want to buy Professional, you just have to pay the difference between these two.
From the Spitfire website: "There is an upgrade path between BBC Symphony Orchestra Discover, Core and Professional. The price you pay to upgrade from one edition to another is simply the price difference between the two products at the point of purchase. Owners of any edition can view their price by ensuring they are logged in to our website then clicking ‘Add to Cart’ on the edition they wish to upgrade to."
@@3DGEMAN1000 Hi thanks Caleb, I just found it myself, they put it on the 'Compare' page rather than the individual product pages
@@watchtheskies No worries, took me a good few minutes to find it the other day when I had the same question. It's a little hidden.
Hi Chris, what is your fader midi controller, look like block of faders. Looks like no other fader midi controller and I really want to buy it, I'm using alot of Spitfire Audio libraries as well. But don't know where to get, thanks
You mentioned Core has solo instruments in the wood winds. Does it also have solo instruments in the brass section as well? Thank you!
I will stick with Discover as I just use it for backing tracks with other VSTs and libraries such as
Halion 6, Kontakt Factory and freebies, even with something like Sonatina. Obviously the Core
and Pro versions are way better. I would buy Core if I was composing trailer music commercially
but Discover is more than acceptable for amateurs.
I created a String Ensemble score in Dorico 5 and have BBC Core as VST but everytime I assign a sound to a channel (e.g. Violin 1 channel 1... 2 for 2... etc.); It is only saving the last sound I saved! What am I missing... This is driving me crazy. Never had the issue with EW, Garritan, Vienna, etc.
Hello.
I have the Core version but there's one thing that eludes me. If I do a piece for strings for example in Discover and then want to move to Core then I have to copy that piece over multiple instruments, yes? So, if I have harmonies played on one MIDI track I have to separate them into single instruments to get the same result, yes?
Or am I completely missing the point? (still a noob with all this :D )
Does the core edition allow you to select how you trigger a technique? I see in the manual it says you could switch between triggering an articulation with a key switch or, lets say, a midi channel. I know however that sometimes manuals are reused between versions. At any rate, this is such a wonderful library and I can't wait until I can finally get it!
nicely explained
My only valid option is the BBC Symphony Orchestra because it comes as a pluggin. I can't afford the high priced DAW's so I went with Cakewalk and so far it's my saving grace. Discovery may not be broadcast-worthy, but I'll have to make it work.
You're not the only one there, mate! I use Cakewalk, and have BBCSO Discover for the same reasons.
Will there be any Studio one templates?