Yup, you didn't consider the fact that in India, there are more 2W as compare to 4W and lots of people are shifting to them. New brands with better technology are coming up with better products to cater Indian and world 2W market here. When it comes to 4W, so far there were less options available for general public but that is set to change very fast in next 2-3 year with brands like Tata and M&M are ready to launch more products to cater different customer segment.
That 50000 figure you gave is with just 4 car models from 3 different companies with all of them in cost well above normal Indian buyer. Once more car models and companies will bring product in market, the S- Curve is bound to happen here in India.
Writing from Norway, we are indeed on a different planet: Electric cars passed 80% of new sales this summer, and few people even consider an alternative for their next car. The secret initially was government subsidy, but now it is improved charging infrastructure that makes the difference. And how does it effect your thinking once you have one? It's all upside down: you think service costs, smoother ride and silence, no smells, better performance, less complexity - and cannot imagine why anyone would drive that other stuff. I used to love petrol cars, manual gears, so I am as surprised as anyone.
I was in Norway last month and I didn't know that all electronic cars numbers their plain number beging with E. Which is great I think all country have to adopt that logic.
Just in the last year or so, the amount of fast chargers in Finland has exploded. Owning a BEV myself made me realize how rapid the progress really is.
In my country India, two wheelers are catching up fast than four wheeler..probably because they are cheaper...but one segment which beats gasoline vehicles is e-rickshaw..now they can be seen everywhere and numbers of gasoline rickshaw depleting day by day..battry they used is also normal chemical battry not litium ion..
By chemical battery do you mean lead acid? Lead acid batteries cost less up front but cost significantly more per stored kwh over the lifetime of the battery and that is before you have to consider the lower efficiency and higher weight.
@@Amuzic_Earth are you sure about lithium-ion batteries in newer E-rickshaws? because that would make them much more expensive also I don't think there's a need for a lithium-ion battery in them as they don't need to cover that much distance.
In my country terrible accidents and fires caused by electric cars resulted in a decision by people who purchase cars to focus their attention on other options.
I'm in Shenzhen, China. I bet everyone in the comment section haven't seen more EVs than me. We have electric cars, buses, taxis, trucks, metro and BYD. I strongly suspect that the city is pumping more EVs than the entire Europe in a year.
Her in Norway the sales was : 2,3 % gas cars. 3,8 % diesel cars. 19,1 % hybrid cars (with pluggin hybrids). 74,8 % Electric cars (100% electric). And, gas stations are dying. Some goes over to be Charging stations, some just dies. So, in 2030 i think people comming to Norway must plan where to get gasoline. And, because of the truck, and lorries that are going over to electrictrisity, there will be problematic to get diesel to.
@@lemongavine Well, one obscure country =/= all countries of the world. Especially considering absolute number of people -- Norway's irrelevant in the grand scheme of things considering most countries in Asia have a far high population than Norway's mere 5.4 million people, that's a drop in the ocean. So most countries in Asia, South America and Africa will still rely on dependable cheap and easily available ICE cars.
Here in Florida, I shopped around and none of the dealerships have them in stock. If you do find one, the dealers mark them up by $10,000. I have two electric vehicles on order: VW ID.4 and a Cyber Truck. The ID.4 is set to deliver by the end of 2022 and Cyber truck is maybe end of 2023.
So - manufacturers are making them as quickly as possible and expanding production as quickly as possible. Demand far outstrips supply and the dealers and being their parasitic selves. Charging is becoming more nearly ubiquitous and reliability is improving. All indicators point to EV.
I’ve been seeing more and more electric vehicles in Greece, Athens where I live too. Not enough to make a difference in air quality but enough to notice on the streets. Which is kind of crazy considering the financial situation in Greece. But I agree. We need to make it in a way that we don’t need cars as much and we also make other forms of transportation viable like bicycles and stuff. At least for heavily congested cities with extreme levels of pollution.
New Dawn Healing .......QUESTION............How does burning coal/fossil fuels to make electric for electric cars help the environment???????????????????????????????????????????????????
@@johnblacksuperchemist2556 Good question!! It doesn’t! If you produce electricity only with fossil fuels then it might be even worse. A quick google search says that only 34% of the initial energy of coal reaches your house in the form of electric energy. If we factor in the losses of electric vehicles (after a quick Google search) that is 15-20% and so from the energy we started we are at about 28.9% to 27.2% efficiency. Now I imagine these are rough numbers and obviously I have not done the measurements myself. But consider this. A petrol car they say is efficient at around 30-35% but that too is misleading because this happens when it only operates under a specific load and engine rpm. If you are stuck in traffic that number could be as low as 15%. Which compared to an electric vehicle is worse. So I know the numbers are rough but it seems that from an efficiency standpoint they are about the same if we factor in the losses of a coal power plant and the grid. The only gain in that situation would be that you are not breathing the exhaust fumes directly from the exhaust of the car and the air in the city would be generally cleaner. BUT and that’s a big BUT in reality electricity nowadays isn’t produced exclusively by burning coal. Natural gas, nuclear power, hydropower and renewables are also used so the overall “mixture” let’s say is cleaner. I will not give exact numbers because it gets too complicated for a RUclips comment. I am not saying that electric cars are super clean but the numbers show they can be cleaner than internal combustion cars. They are not the answer by a long shot but they are a step towards the right direction. As I mentioned in my comment I think we need to reduce car usage where we can. For example today I used an electric bicycle for a ride because my motorbike is broken. It definitely is NOT the same, the bicycle is much slower but I think it has its uses and we shouldn’t disregard them. I don’t know if that answers your questions but I do hope it gives some food for thought. Ultimately the cleanest option is to just walk or use a traditional bicycle but that is kinda primitive in my mind. Until we manage to teleport ourselves by psychic powers we are inclined to use technology to travel faster than our bodies allow.
I never expected to see public charging ports and EVs in Jamaica; as well as the Chinese marketing one of their top EV brands in Jamaica. I’ve seen mainly Tesla on the road; but also Honda. However, I suspect that the Chinese, BYD, will soon dominate the market with its price point.
@@jamaicasysbm2580 aren’t electric cars still significantly more expensive that combustion engine vehicles? Jamaicans love to copy world trends to feel relevant. It’s just a function of time.
I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, and adoption of EVs here seems to be well on its way towards the diffusion stage of the S-curve. There are LOTs of EVs on the road, more every day, and more and more public chargers.
@@patrickfitzgerald2861, California has one of the lowest per capita energy consumption rates of any state in the US, and our energy consumption is growing at a slow and steady rate. Furthermore, most EV charging happens at night when overall electricity demand is quite low.
@@ScottAtwood but isn't energy production also low due to no sunlight and little wind? It seems likely that having millions of EVs charging every evening would create even more demand than during daytime business hours. And using battery power at night only magnifies the destruction of the environment from the mining of the elements required for batteries. Not to mention the increase costs due to massively increased demand because of gov't mandates for EVs. One size doesn't fit all. Just trying to understand our options better.
@@patrickfitzgerald2861 according to the California Energy Commission, total power generation in 2021 was up 2% year over year. Yes, peak generation during the recent heatwave hit all time highs, but that was only during a brief time when all time high temperature records were being set across the state. That doesn’t mean that the overall electricity demand over the course of the year will change that much. We still have a quite mild climate in most of the state for most of the year.
@@mikem4984, the wind blows at night too. California has a diverse electric production grid, also including nuclear, hydroelectric, and geothermal, which provide steady, predictable, carbon free caseload power, so even when the sun goes down, we don’t need to rely exclusively on solar-charged batteries to supply the grid.
@@patrickfitzgerald2861 what I learned from the events of the past few weeks is that the anthropogenic climate crisis is now having severe and unmistakable consequences that can no longer be ignore. We need to collectively end all carbon emissions, and do so as quickly as possible, so we can avert the worst future scenarios. Decarbonizing the transportation sector means we need to get people out of gas burning cars. Some of those cars will need to be replaced by zero emissions motor vehicles like EVs or hydrogen FCs fueled with green hydrogen. But it also means evolving our land use policies so that people live closer to jobs, schools, and shopping. It means investing in pedestrian and bicycle facilities, so people have active transportation alternatives that are safe and pleasant. It means investing in high quality mass transit, so people have safe, pleasant, and dependable transit options.
Electric Cars went out of fashion when the electric starter was invented eliminating the need for a crank start, which was difficult to accomplish and caused injuries.
Yea that’s when gasoline cars officially became more “efficient” from a time perspective. Before that, electric cars technically saved you more time if you were doing lots of little hops around town in order to run errands and whatnot.
Coming from India, i see a good potential for electric cars in cities, because we have higher idling times and frequent braking due to poor infrastructure and poor rule discipline and fuel is highly taxed. However the cost of EVs are prohibitive and people have "range anxiety". Still there are some educated people who are taking the leap of faith. Government is also giving a gentle push by subsidising the cost of the vehicles, but they need to do more for standardising the charging infrastructure and building it.
Yeah, these numbers in the video sound like old news, I don't know about absolute number of EVs (though I am sure there are more than 50,000 now), but the percentage of new cars being bought is certainly a little higher than one percent now.
You don't have the electric grid for it. The adoption of evs is going as fast as it should. If it goes faster, you break something else. Like here in Cali, with our rolling black outs
YOU HIGH EVS ARE TERRIBLE PLUS INDIA IS BIG EVS WILL NEVER HAVE THE RANGE , DUE TO THE LAWS OF PHYICS AND THERMODYNAMICS , DIESEL BY FAR THE BEST WE GOT AS ITS MORE EFFEICENT THAN LITHIUM BY ENERGY DENSITY NOT TWICE AS GOOD OR TEN TIMES TRY DIESEL IS 163 TIMES BETTER FOR ENERGY DENSITY THAN HIGHLY VOLATILE LITHIUM !!!
It’s amazing that the internal combustion engine has lasted this long. Think about it: we’re converting a series of miniature explosions into motion. It’s amazing actually. And modern engines have so many moving parts. So complicated and ultimately inefficient. In 10 years, you might be able to buy a used ICE vehicle. And finding fuel for it may be a challenge.
Easy reason. Oil industry has made $2 billion US dollars a day in profits on average over the last 50 years. That’s enough money to squash any corporate or government attempt to kill the internal combustion engine.
That scenario is maybe 20-30 years into the future. Some of the sold cars right now, will still be driving around in 10-20 years, but sure, in Norway it might be in 10-15 years time, meanwhile it's longer for other countries that haven't adopted as many EVs yet.
With $840.000 in subsidies a second (IMF numbers), and a cartel that are backing oil. Is this really strange? Oil, and fossile cars are a waste of resources. The people in the oil business know this. But, most of our democracies are also oligarkies to. Basicly you can buy politicians legaly, to subsidise your business to get more money that you bribed the politicians with in the first place.
I live in Portland, Oregon and have been driving all electric since 2011. Even a decade ago, lack of infrastructure is not really a problem since 99% of my charging is done at home. I don't really like long road trips. There are a lot of EVs where I live now. It's not a niche anymore. There are still myths people believe that need to be corrected so adoption increases even faster.
Do the facts for EV adoption in India and East Asia include the adoption of electric scooters or are they just for cars? I know the electric scooters / mopeds with swappable batteries are fairly popular over there.
Staggering number of start-up I've seen never before here in Indonesia i couldn't wait to jump in, but the market haven't do the favor enough , only fraction of influencer and big corporation but not in mainstream people especially in the small town where i live, i did see hybrid tho but not that much..
I actually see a lot of Dacia Spring (cheapest EV in Romania - it costs around €20k, but with goverment bonus you get it at half the price at only €10k 😁). Therefor I am seeing more and more EVs in Romania's big cities 😄
i live in greece. A few years back seeing an ev here out in the wild was a weird and rare occasion to say the least, maybe one or two highend model S and Xies per city. But this year, i dont know how but ev's are an everyday sight, and i am not even from the capital, athens. Ev's are sertainly gaining speed here too
Good stuff... I have a lot of fun watching it... I live in Malaysia... Our government just given a tax holiday for about 2 years for EV that requires fully import. Suddenly all the dealership start to import EV inside (officially appointed brand dealer or under grey import (mostly Tesla)) Our infrastructure wise are getting better, we have a lot more AC public charging compared to DC, but things are improving as I know
Have had an electric car nearly a decade now, it's fully paid for itself in fuel savings. We simply plug in at home overnight for a nearly free and full tank in the morning 🌄
My old neighbors used to have two EVs with solar panels on their roof. Not only did they not pay for gas, but charging their cars was practically free. The financial incentive is insane
@@elijah420stuffs2 Yup, less air and noise pollution, less maintenance costs, cheaper fuel, and becoming cheaper and cheaper. Not to mention Tesla engines are outperforming nearly every combustion engine on the commercial market.
Couple of questions! 1. How do they measure the amount of C02 emissions from producing cars? Do they only count the production of the cars or also the mining and refining of raw materials into account? 2. Would it be better to drive a newly produced electric car instead of old fossil fuel car that has already been produced?
Asking the real questions... To add another aspect to the first question.. What about the energy they use? Is is green? If so... How clean is green energy truelly? Do they take into account the CO2 emissions from producing the solar panels, wind turbines,...? I'm afraid we might be surprised that it's more about consumption and less about the climate.
I guess question is does moving to EV make sense if one is looking at a climate change perspective and this question I would say no, the model of everyone having their own individual cars would not be suitable in the grand scheme of things. Increasing public transport and last mile transport should be the optimal way imo Few reasons why the shift to Ev is not practical in the long run The earth does not enough minerals to replace even a fraction of ICE cars already in existence for starters. Efforts to recycle the parts of a electric is still widely challenging, meaning it be way easier to strip out nature and mine for minerals Maintaining road infrastructure and other car related consumables (Tires) still require a huge amount of crude related products For It would probably be more practical to focus the limited minerals we have to green electrification (i.e using neodymium for more wind turbines as opposed to millions of electric cars), energy storage capacity, copper etc. Improving public transports while phasing out individual cars eventually. Redesigning of population centers to reduce needless transportation and road infrastructure End of day most innovations mainly go to feed endless consumerism as per how capitalism was designed, there will claims about self driving cars, better battery technology, fusion energy, easier recycling etc to feed a hope of the future to this drive endless consumerism (greenwashing?) How much time is needed to deliver these promises is anyone's guess. Ironically even if more efficiency was produced from a shift to electric cars its shown all efficiencies will fall into Jevons paradox This is a good video on the subject ruclips.net/video/vn9Vl0G53lA/видео.html
@@glennjgroves Your coal powered EV analysis is missing the fact that EV's weigh more than ICE cars when transporting the same people. EVs have to push a bigger weight to make the same road trip. The volvo report shows that EVs have a small advantage when considering emissions. It is most definitely better to keep on using an old ICE car than buying a new EV(or new ICE car for that matter). People keep on playing down the effects of a new EV battery. The CO2 emissions of creating a new EV battery is massive. And if you ever buy 'just' a new battery for your EV that is yet another massive amount of CO2 emissions. People need to address the big emission problems of an EV battery because once created, it's not going away.
@@glennjgroves EVs are currently ill equipped to replace ICE cars(in general) as they are best suited for city journeys. This would explain why the take up in china is relatively good(many small EVs sold), but I would expect the take up in America to not be so good as Americans would need to make longer car journeys that small EVs cannot manage on a single charge.
The shift to EVs is pretty slow here in India. Keeping aside those who appreciate the promises of new technology, there is massive mental inertia among the general masses who get easily manipulated by digital content that appeals to their cognitive biases. The govt.s EV policies and actions dont seem to be designed to help push against this regressive momentum as it prepares to head back again to the ‘golden age’ of coal dependency. Not to mention, our near totalitarian regime and its crony-capitalistic economic policies have left the masses too poor to purchase essentials, and too timid to ask for good things like progress.
Exactly.. evs are nowhere near affordable to 95% of the people in the world. I was looking to buy a car recently and the cheapest car Toyota Prius hybrid was 1. Mostly unavailable, and 2. Dealerships were charging $5000 extra because of the EV/hybrid car shortage. No way was I going to pay $5000 extra on the cheapest barebone hybrid car.
Slovakia. Not many EV's here, they are expensive and now they are even way more expensive, Tesla, VW you name it. But Chineese EV's creeping in.. Nio, Xpeng, Dongfeng. More affordable, they don't pull out and leave most expensive models like Vw does.
Another consideration for countries where cars are expensive is electric bikes, in at least one country there is more bike battery swapping stations than petrol stations.
I live in North Carolina and now every 5 to 10 cars in the area seem to be Tesla's. Other makes and models are starting to show up like the Ford F-150 Lightning, Ford Mustang MachE, Chevy Bolts Mercedes and BMW electric models. It seems every other month you're getting new fast charging stations as well and that was before the federal legislation that's gave us more money to install them. One out of every five of the largest gas station chain in the Raleigh area now has fast charging stations they're also showing up at Major box stores like Walmart and Target. They're several free fast charging stations in the area as well making the cost of fueling up basically zero.
Have I missed something? The video mentions that we are lacking charging standard as one of the challenges. But that is the one issue that we seem to have sorted out for now...
I live in Florida, USA. EVs are beginning to make a showing, even in spite of the many gas zombies that are still around. I believe that the biggest impediment by far in the proliferation of EVs in the United States is big oil and the politicians they buy to keep the status quo.
@@jakedank2746so you're saying that it is better to continue to adversely change the environment than be proactive and make some kind of effort to mitigate the effects of our own deleterious activity.
In Canada, the change to fully electric cars is slow because it doesn't make sense. Canada experiences both extreme cold and heat, which makes the batteries in electric cars non-functional for part of the year. The range on an electric vehicle is still smaller than gas which also causes problems for people that don't live in major cities or need to travel long distances a lot; many parts of the country are very remote. Hybrid (electric and gas engine) cars are becoming popular, but a breakthrough in hydrogen fueled cars or battery technology is needed if we want to eliminate gas powered vehicles here.
Norway is a very small country ( population wise) with vast amounts of clean renewable energy, ( from hydro energy to get energy). They also have vast oil reserves that can fund outrageously generous subsidy programs.
I traded in my Lexus RX 350 for tesla model 3P! I have free tesla charger at work and rarely have to pay for charging! I just wish it had air suspension and backup auto brake detection! I do miss how smooth the Lexus was but other than that it’s perfect
EV are not a End solution. Human Centric Urbanism aka walkable city and Public transport(On rail idealy) is Da way. EV are way heavier than oil car making the tire wear way faster, and Tire are an extreme source of Air pollution, massive public health impact and there are not recyclable nor renewable. We will not solve the problem of the climate by putting even more people on the roads increasing by thousand the plastic dust in the air on each city. Continuing this Car-centric urbanization where you have more than 80% of the territory only for roads and parking these cars is evil, unmoral, unethical, irrational, completely none utilitarian. The people who lobbied for this car-centric urbanism should be punish for crimes against humanity. And put it alongside the great murderers of the history. They know exactly what they were doing. Like tobacco companies.
@@Lildizzle420 Well they are cheaper to run, as long as you can charge at home. Less CO2 emissions in the long term, depends entirely on what power sources are charging the car. The fun aspect would probably depend on the car, but my wife loves one pedal driving.
Batteries won't solve climate change Mining lithium, chromium vanadium, rare elements is very energy intensive. What will happens to broken car batteries? It will also be needed a way to recycle dead car batteries too
It is only 3% of cars sold in the Czech Republic. The pricing and the grid are a problem. We are not a large state but people still worry they might not get where they want with a battery-powered car.
Two things that concern me: - In some places we are charging electric vehicles from the electricity generated from fossil fuel. - Lithium is a very scarce resource. What do we do if we run out of that?
Generally, electric cars are more efficient in motion. Even if the source of electricity comes from fossil fuels, it will burn less. Plus the costs of solar panels have decreased by 90% between 2010 and 2020. It is only a matter of time it gets as efficient fossil fuels. Lithium is extremely abundant. Way less scarce than fossil fuels. However miners need to increase their production. Which will happens since the demand for lithium is crazy atm.
We need to realize few countries produce and consume even a fraction of the electricity used by Norway. We're talking orders of magnitude of difference between the largest and smallest consumers of electricity in the world. To give everyone a 3 phase 16A connection is such a huge undertaking it's mindboggling.
I went PHEV 7 years ago, and fully EV 3 years ago, no going back for me, they are just so much better to drive than ICE. But they are still too expensive here in UK, public chargers are poor and often faulty, but they are now rapidly improving. I think we have now reached the tipping point in favour of EVs. In future years ICE owners will be the ones with range anxiety, searching for petrol stations.
I live in Melbourne, Australia and see a number of Teslas every day. There is an EV changing point next to where I park my bike for uni and there is almost always a different car plugged in. I’m slowly beginning to see other brands but as we don’t have any good policies or incentives in place to promote rapid growth; the industry sends them to other countries that do have the policies as these EV’s are required there
80% of Australian electricity is generated from Coal, most EV's on the road may make the owners "feel better" but its doing jack sheep to help global warming, and they probably sold perfectly decent cars to buy those EV's, so you can add on the massive carbon cost of manufacturing those EV's, absolute Elon Musk brain washed Muppets.
@@davestagner depending on how the ev gets it's power. You'll still have to account for all the coal that is burned for most grids. Along with transportation emissions of all the resources. I do agree that some areas will have a lower lifetime but I don't think all will.
I think India needs to invest more in its railways than investing in charging infrastructure. Indian railways transport over 23 million passengers daily. Most of this existing infrastructure is electric. Railways in India are greener, safer, and much more affordable.
Even better? Ditch personal cars entirely. If we actually give a s*** about environmental concerns, we should be an investing in mass transit walkable and bikable urbanism. Personal vehicles will be the death of our planet, EV or not.
Fast personal transport is freedom. As whole personal transportation produces somewhere around 0,1% of planetary CO2 emissions, it´s really kinda silly , claiming that "personal vehicles will be the death of the whole planet" and it feels unnecessary to give it up. Also often I hear such talk from people, who live in cities, taling about bikes etc., forgetting, that food is still grown in the countryside, where - good luck with promoting bikes and public transport over here.
@@thespalek1 Nationally, the transportation sector contributes 28 percent of all greenhouse gas emissions-the most of any sector-and personal vehicles make up more than half of those emissions. Please don’t go around spreading misinformation.
Australia is incredibly backwards in this respect, EVs are expensive and charging infrastructure is rare. One Australian state even charges a per km levy on EV drivers
Here in California, EVs, mainly Teslas are increasing rapidly. In San Diego where I am Tesla Model 3s are almost as common as Honda Civics or Toyota Corollas.
We are going to see an explosion of innovation in all areas of EV and new energy. Batteries, electric motors, control equipment, charging, solar, everything. It's going to be a wild ride, there will be some science fiction come to life moments.
Thx bro.... Iam from the southern coastal reagion of India. Befor the pendamic era electrical cars wer very lesss will find one in a 50 cars in the traffic... But in 2022 its increased significantly in numbers charging station availability also started in downtowns and major cities, also state electricity board of gov: started their own chaging station but still need to imrpove the number of charging points with respect to the km range of an electric car....
A typical passenger vehicle emits about 4.6 metric tons of carbon dioxide per year. The Tesla Model 3 holds an 80 kWh lithium-ion battery. CO2 emissions for manufacturing that battery would range between 2400 kg (almost two and a half metric tons) and 16,000 kg (16 metric tons).
In South Africa sadly not. Electric Vehicles are taxed at 42% whereas ICE vehicles are only taxed at 18% and sometimes even subsidized. The government also collects a lot of taxes through fuel sales and the country doesn't produce enough electricity even for businesses and households, nevermind cars. There has also been frequent power outages over the last 15 years that is getting worse. Add to that the ruling party has vested interests in the oil and gas industry and you understand why South Africa's government tries to block the adoption of electric vehicles and renewable energy - despite public and global pressure.
I think when we adopt the ev the problem occurs when the demand of gasoline will dropped the price of gasoline will also be drop so their should be very difficult for EV to completely kill gasoline engines in comparison of power and price ratio so their must be equlibirium in market untill all the electricity we generates must be completely transfer on renewable and their must be any breakthrough of new battery technology.
I live in San Diego and there has been an explosion of EVs recently. Charging stations have been installed down the street from me and the electric company is offering deals for off-peak charging discounts. It's a good intermediate to cut emissions today, but there needs to be a battery revolution away from lithium, followed by a transportation revolution away from private vehicle dependence.
Don't forget about the Nickel Iron Edison Battery back in the early days that was good for 40years. These were made for Ford and you can still find functional ones today.
@@paranoah1925 - “Building on the work of the Swedish inventor Ernst Waldemar Jungner, who first patented a nickel-iron battery in 1899, Edison sought to refine the battery for use in automobiles. Edison claimed the nickel-iron battery was incredibly resilient, and could be charged twice as fast as lead-acid batteries. He even had a deal in place with Ford Motors to produce this purportedly more efficient electric vehicle.”
I mean.. In eastern eastern europe (the balkans etc.) the majority of cars driven and bought every year, are second hand cars - like 80% or such. Majority of people can't afford new ones, much less electric alternatives. The infrastructure is not very good, to put it mildly, and public transport is at best passable, so alot of people rely on their old vehicles or buy used ones, imported from western europe to save on cost. In third world countries they have it much worse. The point is - when westerners decide to sell their EV's after 5 to 10 years of exploitation, the battery on those will more than likely been shot dead and in need of a change, which is not a very cheap endeavour. Anyone buying such a vehicle should be ready to splurge another few thousand $ for a replacement and this is simply impossible for average people in those regions. Furthermore, this will also have a negative effect on sales of perfectly usable used cars in the western countries, driving up sales of new cars, because nobody would want to bother when they can get the new model for a few thousand more. Basically a win for manufacturers, a loss for consumers. As always. All in all, i'm all for eco-friendly but in my opinion, this is not the time and this is not the way, we need better, greener and more reliable batteries. Current technology is not ecological at all...
Indonesia, city Bandung still find 1 or 3 car EV on road, very far from a lot, because the price is expensive only people can afford a little. location for battrey recharge at home. in public places are rare too. probably still have to wait 20-50 years in the future.
I feel we need to work towards things like a Veemo or similar pedal driven but battery assisted small frame "vehicles" rather than full scale cars. They can go decently fast, they're stable, have storage, hell some bougie versions can have air condition and stuff lol But for the life of me I'll never understand why we decided driving around in massive 2000lb chunks of steel was a good idea. It's a bad use of raw resources, it causes hazards due to the weight and high speeds, and the pollution up til recently has been really bad. Honestly instead of full size vehicles, we could scale down and have techno-flintstones style vehicles. Battery would help so you don't break a sweat, just a constant steady pedal to keep the battery up basically.
Yeah, honestly you don't even need the battery assist for most purposes. Just go with a well-geared bicycle structure, and if these manufactures ever get around to figuring out how to build them to a decent durability it'll last forever. I just wish we could lower the speed limits to the point they could be a major part of the traffic outside of cities as well as in.
Things are changing quickly now in Australia. In a federal election in 2019 the Conservative party argued against EV subsidies and won power. At the next election in 2022, the 2019 statements were successfully used by the opposition and a number of independent candidates to push the conservatives out of power. At the same time EV sales quadrupled in a year from 1% to 4% of new car sales.
Charging infrastructure and reliability is a major issue. I live in southern Spain and the network is limited, and the percentage of stations that work is about 30%
True, even here in the States. But even Chevy introduced the all new $30K Equinox that has long range, good looks, and will prob spur other lower cost and desirable competition. Oil companies should be shitting themselves at this point cuz all the automakers are going electric. Even Ferrari introduced a new electric SUV this week!
The same was true of gas powered cars circa 1900. Only the wealthy could afford them. Going back further, only wealthy people had horses. But that changed rather quickly, and as continued development and economies of scale take hold, the cost of electric cars is likely to be similar to gas powered cars within five years, and could be significantly lower (adjusted for inflation) in another ten to twenty years.
An electric car makes no difference if your grid is powered by coal, what needs to be worked on is better energy storage compared to current battery technology.
Actually, it does. A power plant is going to be much more efficient than an ICE that needs to be mobile and run at suboptimal states. Gasoline also takes a lot of energy to refine.
I'm a bit skeptical over the electric cars, because they also create a lot of new problems to be solved in the process of mitigating the climate change issue, ex: dumping old batteries. The first step we should take is "Greening our habits", which means less consumption, smarter cities and an easy access to services in general. It sounds a utopic, but it's possible do be done.
Companies could have increased energy density of batteries if they really wanted but oil giants never wanted to loose their monopoly. Lot's of innovators voice were silenced during oil majors heydays. People were made to believe that there's no alternative to IC ENGINES. But electrical revolution is inevitable this time & EVs are gaining popularity in my home town. Curiosity among customers for higher energy density storage is just shooting up higher.
Sorry I live in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦 Electric vehicles are probably not as beneficial as in countries where most electricity comes from renewable energy. But I would appreciate better air quality…
Most of the reasons given for electrifying transportation have been falsified. They are more about salesmanship and public relations than reality. However there are three real reasons for the switch: (1) energy security; (2) higher efficiency; and (3) air quality. The air quality issue is much bigger than it may seem, yet not especially useful for selling to the public due to status quo bias. So your desire for cleaner air is actually one of the better reasons to want to switch.
I live in Thailnad, the price of electric car is quite same as combustion. however, most of them still come from china. So reliaable really play importance role here. Also infrastructure doesnot run in the same pace.
at the same time this is also going to push people to either buy an EV or convert their existing gas powered car to an EV. which is something that I wanna try out.
You needn't worry, new battery tech like the 4680 cell is supposed to be good for over 1 million miles. this is not the only battery tech making these sort of claims, and although not widespread, it shows the potential for future battery tech.
@@daydreamer8373 future battery tech pops up every other week. Yet nobody made it real yet. I've driven bEVs few years old, which couldn't do over 50 miles in real life...
@@thespalek1 I have driven my EV for the last 5 years and it still has the same range as when we bought it. Tesla's 4680 cell is already in production, and slowly being ramped. There are many other battery technologies like LFP showing real potential. Basically batteries are not an issue people imagine it to be.
Norway and Finland are both a minute percent of the world population. The world’s electricity grid will have to be massively expanded which won’t happen due to cost.
When you said India has less than 50k EVs on road...that's wrong on few levels. 1. There are millions of electric 3ws, few hundred thousand electric 2ws in addition to 60000+ electric 4ws. 2. 90% of those 60000+ electric cars were sold in last 1 year or so and the sales have multiplied 3-4 times across all segments in just 1 year. So, the stats would be drastically different in next few years.
The next step will be getting people to get over the idea that individually-owned private cars are an actual necessity. Self-driving publically-owned cars would solve all transportation requirements using existing road infrastructure while significantly reducing the sizes of fleets worldwide. After all, privately-owned cars spend the great majority of their lifetimes unused and parked in garages, which is a total waste of space and the energy that went into manufacturing them in the first place.
Electrification of the fleet as an ecologic step is a marketing ploy... Why? Even though electric drivetrains may be more efficient and may require less maintenance, the reality remains - where does the power you charge your vehicle come from? If it's solar based, OK, if it's tidal based, OK as well, if it's wind generator, OK again, if it's water dam based, OK still, but the majority would come out of an electric grid infrastructure powered by coal power plants, and that means you're just shifting the responsibility and pollutions from the vehicles into the grid supplier. OK, some areas/grids may also have nuclear reactors as power source, but the core across the globe is still coal based... Norway has leap-frogged most countries thanks to several key factors: financial support/incentives to buy electric vehicles, infrastructure throughout major towns to support charging (eg. the famous underground parking lots for electric vehicles), grid powered not only by coal but also with dams and a few wind ones but also nuclear and tidal and geothermal energy sources... This means people are incentivised to buy EVs, they are offered sprawling and already hugely successful grid/infra to charge/use those EVs, and the majority of the energy in the grid actually comes from renewable resources, so the EV route is somewhat cheaper and greener and easier to live with. Other countries unfortunately are still lacking... Heck, in some countries the price difference between ICEV and EV variants of the "same"/similar model can be as high as 50%, and without any external incentives this can amount to a difference worth of approx. 6m3 of PB95/98 fuel which can then translate to about 1700 days of approx. 60km daily routes, so basically to about 5-6 years of car "free" usage (excluding other costs)... and that makes EVs hard sells in many markets. And that's good, cause those countries might not sport grid strong enough to provide power to all the households, offices, factories and... charging stations that would be required if people switched to EVs en masse.
There's a bit more nuance than that. You may live in a place with lots of coal power, but in the U.S. coal is now producing only about 20% of electricity. Pretty much any other source is cleaner. But even using coal there are two big advantages to EVs: (1) higher efficiency means less total fuel used; and (2) relocation of air pollution from densely populated areas to less densely populated areas, where it will affect far fewer people. Aside from that, it is easier to switch a few big power plants from coal to natural gas or something else, than it is switch a whole automobile fleet, and apart from the question of air quality this also is good for energy security, as it is much easier to shift energy sources this way than it would be to switch an entire existing automobile fleet from oil to something else if for some reason oil became unavailable.
@IJŠƇĦͦ̚5ɜPƔNjƇάȥɓϋξ îπɛş\x91͈ǷǯƠɱ\ True, they can be. And if renewable sources are available even better. But regarding the cleaner part or less dependence... EVs require batteries to run, same as laptops or mobiles or many other electronic goods after all, and this extra weight can eat up parts of the efficiency formula. But putting extra tonnage aside, and sure the EVs can combat the weight penalty with more efficient packaging and aerodynamics, the problem are still the batteries themselves... They're not degradable, they're not everlasting, they're made of precious elements/metals sourced from mostly Argentina/Chile/Bolivia or Australia or China or Russia. And after they die, and they do sooner or later depending on technology used, they're not yet properly recycled to recoup the precious metals back into supply chain, instead they're being put aside into landfills... Sure the end product in the EVs is not required to be replenished, or even possible to do so, by those precious materials every day you use the device/vehicle, nor do we need to replace the batteries on a daily schedule, so the amount of "trash" is not something as easily discernible as plastic bottles filling a garbage bin, but the sustainability or cleanness factors still remain not yet properly dealt with. Furthermore, the dependence on certain countries remains, only switched to other countries' list as the metals are currently mostly supplied from other countries and at different stage in the vehicle life... Maybe once the graphene or solidstate batteries hit the market the cleanness or better supply chains aspects could be improved, but the question is when... On the other hand, there's an alternative eg. Toyota even toyed with - going hydrogen. It's extremely efficient in terms of weight/packaging in terms of storage in the vehicle, basically same tech as used for oil/gas/LPG, it's capable of being used in IECs with small modifications to the engines themselves but it can use other engine designs for less combusting approaches, it's replenished as fast as regular liquid fuels, and it burns with negligible impact on air pollution levels... Basically a mist of water out of the tailpipe... And hydrogen production/supply could be managed by most countries themselves, using their powerplants/chemical plants infrastructure and some water sources...
Not only price is a problem but also the security of recicling batteries. Will not be Li-ion used batteries thrown from rich countries to Africa? Are you sure?
Were i live had the “Gurgel” one of the brands that tried to apply the electric cars to the market in the 70’s, in a cheap way. Today’s we didn’t see almost any electric car or charge stations in Brazilians street’s
Early 1990s: "... ultimately the problem is the batteries." 2022: technically the problem is still the batteries. They are better, but still expensive, heavy, slow to charge, delicate, doesn't last as long and need raw materials from mining. Hopefully we get better batteries technology soon or hydrogen fuel cell technology to catch up
Not to mention there aren't enough known sources of the raw materials for a 1:1 replacement of petrol cars, besides which the effect on local populations is absolutely devastating. Besides which, if EVs emit 70% less CO2 than ICEVs, that means their carbon footprint is still a third of the size, i.e. nowhere near good enough. Sure, EVs are better than ICEVs, but we really need to be moving away from the concept of externally-powered personal transportation.
@@traveller23e Exactly. We can't just keep living car-dependent lives, but with EVs. Electrification is necessary, but we need to focus on building places to live that are walkable, bikable, and served by transit. This has the advantage of making our built environment more pleasant and accessible to people of all abilities and ages.
Are electric vehicles becoming popular where you live?
no
Yup, you didn't consider the fact that in India, there are more 2W as compare to 4W and lots of people are shifting to them. New brands with better technology are coming up with better products to cater Indian and world 2W market here.
When it comes to 4W, so far there were less options available for general public but that is set to change very fast in next 2-3 year with brands like Tata and M&M are ready to launch more products to cater different customer segment.
That 50000 figure you gave is with just 4 car models from 3 different companies with all of them in cost well above normal Indian buyer. Once more car models and companies will bring product in market, the S- Curve is bound to happen here in India.
Rapid adoption of EVs here in Newport RI. A few years ago there where a few on the road. Now 25% are EVs.
Sadly yes
Writing from Norway, we are indeed on a different planet: Electric cars passed 80% of new sales this summer, and few people even consider an alternative for their next car. The secret initially was government subsidy, but now it is improved charging infrastructure that makes the difference. And how does it effect your thinking once you have one? It's all upside down: you think service costs, smoother ride and silence, no smells, better performance, less complexity - and cannot imagine why anyone would drive that other stuff. I used to love petrol cars, manual gears, so I am as surprised as anyone.
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Love this. Norway, you are talking from the future!
I was in Norway last month and I didn't know that all electronic cars numbers their plain number beging with E. Which is great I think all country have to adopt that logic.
That is awful, electric cars are so bad for the environment compared to public transportation.
@@12kenbutsuri gas cars are awful for the environment compared to public transportation. What is your point?
Just in the last year or so, the amount of fast chargers in Finland has exploded. Owning a BEV myself made me realize how rapid the progress really is.
In my country India, two wheelers are catching up fast than four wheeler..probably because they are cheaper...but one segment which beats gasoline vehicles is e-rickshaw..now they can be seen everywhere and numbers of gasoline rickshaw depleting day by day..battry they used is also normal chemical battry not litium ion..
By chemical battery do you mean lead acid? Lead acid batteries cost less up front but cost significantly more per stored kwh over the lifetime of the battery and that is before you have to consider the lower efficiency and higher weight.
@@garethbaus5471 that used to be the case, but most new 3ws are sold with lithium ion batteries now.
@@Amuzic_Earth That makes sense.
@@Amuzic_Earth are you sure about lithium-ion batteries in newer E-rickshaws? because that would make them much more expensive also I don't think there's a need for a lithium-ion battery in them as they don't need to cover that much distance.
In my country terrible accidents and fires caused by electric cars resulted in a decision by people who purchase cars to focus their attention on other options.
I'm in Shenzhen, China. I bet everyone in the comment section haven't seen more EVs than me. We have electric cars, buses, taxis, trucks, metro and BYD. I strongly suspect that the city is pumping more EVs than the entire Europe in a year.
Thank you for sharing your experience! I have never been to China and it’s refreshing to hear what’s happening there too. 🙂
Her in Norway the sales was :
2,3 % gas cars.
3,8 % diesel cars.
19,1 % hybrid cars (with pluggin hybrids).
74,8 % Electric cars (100% electric).
And, gas stations are dying.
Some goes over to be Charging stations, some just dies.
So, in 2030 i think people comming to Norway must plan where to get gasoline.
And, because of the truck, and lorries that are going over to electrictrisity, there will be problematic to get diesel to.
I have been predicting that this will happen. Glad to see it’s already happening in Norway
..but giant soot producing cruise ships still roam fjords I guess?
@@lemongavine Well, one obscure country =/= all countries of the world. Especially considering absolute number of people -- Norway's irrelevant in the grand scheme of things considering most countries in Asia have a far high population than Norway's mere 5.4 million people, that's a drop in the ocean. So most countries in Asia, South America and Africa will still rely on dependable cheap and easily available ICE cars.
Here in Florida, I shopped around and none of the dealerships have them in stock. If you do find one, the dealers mark them up by $10,000. I have two electric vehicles on order: VW ID.4 and a Cyber Truck. The ID.4 is set to deliver by the end of 2022 and Cyber truck is maybe end of 2023.
I have a CyberTruck preorder too.
I am ~430k in line.
So - manufacturers are making them as quickly as possible and expanding production as quickly as possible. Demand far outstrips supply and the dealers and being their parasitic selves.
Charging is becoming more nearly ubiquitous and reliability is improving.
All indicators point to EV.
A video titled "EV charging and hurricanes: What drivers should know before evacuating"
I’ve been seeing more and more electric vehicles in Greece, Athens where I live too. Not enough to make a difference in air quality but enough to notice on the streets. Which is kind of crazy considering the financial situation in Greece. But I agree. We need to make it in a way that we don’t need cars as much and we also make other forms of transportation viable like bicycles and stuff. At least for heavily congested cities with extreme levels of pollution.
New Dawn Healing .......QUESTION............How does burning coal/fossil fuels to make electric for electric cars help the environment???????????????????????????????????????????????????
@@johnblacksuperchemist2556 Good question!! It doesn’t! If you produce electricity only with fossil fuels then it might be even worse. A quick google search says that only 34% of the initial energy of coal reaches your house in the form of electric energy. If we factor in the losses of electric vehicles (after a quick Google search) that is 15-20% and so from the energy we started we are at about 28.9% to 27.2% efficiency. Now I imagine these are rough numbers and obviously I have not done the measurements myself. But consider this. A petrol car they say is efficient at around 30-35% but that too is misleading because this happens when it only operates under a specific load and engine rpm. If you are stuck in traffic that number could be as low as 15%. Which compared to an electric vehicle is worse. So I know the numbers are rough but it seems that from an efficiency standpoint they are about the same if we factor in the losses of a coal power plant and the grid. The only gain in that situation would be that you are not breathing the exhaust fumes directly from the exhaust of the car and the air in the city would be generally cleaner. BUT and that’s a big BUT in reality electricity nowadays isn’t produced exclusively by burning coal. Natural gas, nuclear power, hydropower and renewables are also used so the overall “mixture” let’s say is cleaner. I will not give exact numbers because it gets too complicated for a RUclips comment. I am not saying that electric cars are super clean but the numbers show they can be cleaner than internal combustion cars. They are not the answer by a long shot but they are a step towards the right direction. As I mentioned in my comment I think we need to reduce car usage where we can. For example today I used an electric bicycle for a ride because my motorbike is broken. It definitely is NOT the same, the bicycle is much slower but I think it has its uses and we shouldn’t disregard them. I don’t know if that answers your questions but I do hope it gives some food for thought. Ultimately the cleanest option is to just walk or use a traditional bicycle but that is kinda primitive in my mind. Until we manage to teleport ourselves by psychic powers we are inclined to use technology to travel faster than our bodies allow.
I'm happy for you my Greek friend! Greetings from Italy
@@elijah420stuffs2 Greetings to you too friend! Much love! ♥🙏
In Romania Dacia Spring is selling very well: a small and cheap electric car ideal for city drives.
Dacia Spring EV are made in China and exported to Europe. That's why it is so cheap.
I never expected to see public charging ports and EVs in Jamaica; as well as the Chinese marketing one of their top EV brands in Jamaica. I’ve seen mainly Tesla on the road; but also Honda. However, I suspect that the Chinese, BYD, will soon dominate the market with its price point.
We still not buying those EVs European or Chinese internal combustion engine that’s what we want
@@jamaicasysbm2580 aren’t electric cars still significantly more expensive that combustion engine vehicles? Jamaicans love to copy world trends to feel relevant. It’s just a function of time.
@@sayvorie affordability and being cautious is dictating the buy motives
@@jamaicasysbm2580 okay I believe I indicated that already. What’s your point?
@@sayvorie your argument was with respect to EV purchasing I was revealing to you the situation on the ground the people of the do not want EVs.
EVs are for the most part maintenance free. Companies that sell petroleum fueled cars make profits from their service networks. Service is expensive.
I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, and adoption of EVs here seems to be well on its way towards the diffusion stage of the S-curve. There are LOTs of EVs on the road, more every day, and more and more public chargers.
@@patrickfitzgerald2861, California has one of the lowest per capita energy consumption rates of any state in the US, and our energy consumption is growing at a slow and steady rate. Furthermore, most EV charging happens at night when overall electricity demand is quite low.
@@ScottAtwood but isn't energy production also low due to no sunlight and little wind? It seems likely that having millions of EVs charging every evening would create even more demand than during daytime business hours. And using battery power at night only magnifies the destruction of the environment from the mining of the elements required for batteries. Not to mention the increase costs due to massively increased demand because of gov't mandates for EVs. One size doesn't fit all. Just trying to understand our options better.
@@patrickfitzgerald2861 according to the California Energy Commission, total power generation in 2021 was up 2% year over year. Yes, peak generation during the recent heatwave hit all time highs, but that was only during a brief time when all time high temperature records were being set across the state. That doesn’t mean that the overall electricity demand over the course of the year will change that much. We still have a quite mild climate in most of the state for most of the year.
@@mikem4984, the wind blows at night too. California has a diverse electric production grid, also including nuclear, hydroelectric, and geothermal, which provide steady, predictable, carbon free caseload power, so even when the sun goes down, we don’t need to rely exclusively on solar-charged batteries to supply the grid.
@@patrickfitzgerald2861 what I learned from the events of the past few weeks is that the anthropogenic climate crisis is now having severe and unmistakable consequences that can no longer be ignore. We need to collectively end all carbon emissions, and do so as quickly as possible, so we can avert the worst future scenarios. Decarbonizing the transportation sector means we need to get people out of gas burning cars. Some of those cars will need to be replaced by zero emissions motor vehicles like EVs or hydrogen FCs fueled with green hydrogen. But it also means evolving our land use policies so that people live closer to jobs, schools, and shopping. It means investing in pedestrian and bicycle facilities, so people have active transportation alternatives that are safe and pleasant. It means investing in high quality mass transit, so people have safe, pleasant, and dependable transit options.
Electric Cars went out of fashion when the electric starter was invented eliminating the need for a crank start, which was difficult to accomplish and caused injuries.
Yea that’s when gasoline cars officially became more “efficient” from a time perspective. Before that, electric cars technically saved you more time if you were doing lots of little hops around town in order to run errands and whatnot.
Too bad the video researchers did not discover that point.
Cadillac is to blame
Coming from India, i see a good potential for electric cars in cities, because we have higher idling times and frequent braking due to poor infrastructure and poor rule discipline and fuel is highly taxed. However the cost of EVs are prohibitive and people have "range anxiety". Still there are some educated people who are taking the leap of faith. Government is also giving a gentle push by subsidising the cost of the vehicles, but they need to do more for standardising the charging infrastructure and building it.
That does seem like a nearly ideal place to electrify vehicles especially in the cities.
Yeah, these numbers in the video sound like old news, I don't know about absolute number of EVs (though I am sure there are more than 50,000 now), but the percentage of new cars being bought is certainly a little higher than one percent now.
You don't have the electric grid for it. The adoption of evs is going as fast as it should. If it goes faster, you break something else.
Like here in Cali, with our rolling black outs
YOU HIGH EVS ARE TERRIBLE PLUS INDIA IS BIG EVS WILL NEVER HAVE THE RANGE , DUE TO THE LAWS OF PHYICS AND THERMODYNAMICS , DIESEL BY FAR THE BEST WE GOT AS ITS MORE EFFEICENT THAN LITHIUM BY ENERGY DENSITY NOT TWICE AS GOOD OR TEN TIMES TRY DIESEL IS 163 TIMES BETTER FOR ENERGY DENSITY THAN HIGHLY VOLATILE LITHIUM !!!
It’s amazing that the internal combustion engine has lasted this long. Think about it: we’re converting a series of miniature explosions into motion. It’s amazing actually. And modern engines have so many moving parts. So complicated and ultimately inefficient.
In 10 years, you might be able to buy a used ICE vehicle. And finding fuel for it may be a challenge.
Easy reason. Oil industry has made $2 billion US dollars a day in profits on average over the last 50 years. That’s enough money to squash any corporate or government attempt to kill the internal combustion engine.
@@thelonewolf666 more like 30 years
That scenario is maybe 20-30 years into the future. Some of the sold cars right now, will still be driving around in 10-20 years, but sure, in Norway it might be in 10-15 years time, meanwhile it's longer for other countries that haven't adopted as many EVs yet.
Synthetic fuel will always exist.
With $840.000 in subsidies a second (IMF numbers), and a cartel that are backing oil. Is this really strange?
Oil, and fossile cars are a waste of resources. The people in the oil business know this.
But, most of our democracies are also oligarkies to. Basicly you can buy politicians legaly, to subsidise your business to get more money that you bribed the politicians with in the first place.
I live in Portland, Oregon and have been driving all electric since 2011. Even a decade ago, lack of infrastructure is not really a problem since 99% of my charging is done at home. I don't really like long road trips. There are a lot of EVs where I live now. It's not a niche anymore. There are still myths people believe that need to be corrected so adoption increases even faster.
Do the facts for EV adoption in India and East Asia include the adoption of electric scooters or are they just for cars? I know the electric scooters / mopeds with swappable batteries are fairly popular over there.
Staggering number of start-up I've seen never before here in Indonesia i couldn't wait to jump in, but the market haven't do the favor enough , only fraction of influencer and big corporation but not in mainstream people especially in the small town where i live, i did see hybrid tho but not that much..
I actually see a lot of Dacia Spring (cheapest EV in Romania - it costs around €20k, but with goverment bonus you get it at half the price at only €10k 😁).
Therefor I am seeing more and more EVs in Romania's big cities 😄
i live in greece. A few years back seeing an ev here out in the wild was a weird and rare occasion to say the least, maybe one or two highend model S and Xies per city. But this year, i dont know how but ev's are an everyday sight, and i am not even from the capital, athens. Ev's are sertainly gaining speed here too
EUR 2.40 a litre for Unleaded 95 probably explains it
Good stuff... I have a lot of fun watching it...
I live in Malaysia... Our government just given a tax holiday for about 2 years for EV that requires fully import. Suddenly all the dealership start to import EV inside (officially appointed brand dealer or under grey import (mostly Tesla))
Our infrastructure wise are getting better, we have a lot more AC public charging compared to DC, but things are improving as I know
Those petrol companies should start making chargeables and batteries if this will be the future.
I think shell is already making a move rn in putting up charging stations and also might probably gonna do those
Have had an electric car nearly a decade now, it's fully paid for itself in fuel savings.
We simply plug in at home overnight for a nearly free and full tank in the morning 🌄
Ev car buyers are mind children,
Mind children are easily led - and easily misled.
My old neighbors used to have two EVs with solar panels on their roof. Not only did they not pay for gas, but charging their cars was practically free. The financial incentive is insane
@@PlanetZeroVideos also way less maintenance costs! In the future I plan also to buy an electric vehicle
@@elijah420stuffs2 Yup, less air and noise pollution, less maintenance costs, cheaper fuel, and becoming cheaper and cheaper. Not to mention Tesla engines are outperforming nearly every combustion engine on the commercial market.
@@elijah420stuffs2 It won’t be cheap when you need to change the battery
Couple of questions!
1. How do they measure the amount of C02 emissions from producing cars? Do they only count the production of the cars or also the mining and refining of raw materials into account?
2. Would it be better to drive a newly produced electric car instead of old fossil fuel car that has already been produced?
Asking the real questions...
To add another aspect to the first question.. What about the energy they use? Is is green? If so... How clean is green energy truelly? Do they take into account the CO2 emissions from producing the solar panels, wind turbines,...? I'm afraid we might be surprised that it's more about consumption and less about the climate.
I guess question is does moving to EV make sense if one is looking at a climate change perspective and this question I would say no, the model of everyone having their own individual cars would not be suitable in the grand scheme of things. Increasing public transport and last mile transport should be the optimal way imo
Few reasons why the shift to Ev is not practical in the long run
The earth does not enough minerals to replace even a fraction of ICE cars already in existence for starters.
Efforts to recycle the parts of a electric is still widely challenging, meaning it be way easier to strip out nature and mine for minerals
Maintaining road infrastructure and other car related consumables (Tires) still require a huge amount of crude related products
For It would probably be more practical to focus the limited minerals we have to green electrification (i.e using neodymium for more wind turbines as opposed to millions of electric cars), energy storage capacity, copper etc. Improving public transports while phasing out individual cars eventually. Redesigning of population centers to reduce needless transportation and road infrastructure
End of day most innovations mainly go to feed endless consumerism as per how capitalism was designed, there will claims about self driving cars, better battery technology, fusion energy, easier recycling etc to feed a hope of the future to this drive endless consumerism (greenwashing?) How much time is needed to deliver these promises is anyone's guess.
Ironically even if more efficiency was produced from a shift to electric cars its shown all efficiencies will fall into Jevons paradox
This is a good video on the subject
ruclips.net/video/vn9Vl0G53lA/видео.html
@@glennjgroves Your coal powered EV analysis is missing the fact that EV's weigh more than ICE cars when transporting the same people. EVs have to push a bigger weight to make the same road trip. The volvo report shows that EVs have a small advantage when considering emissions. It is most definitely better to keep on using an old ICE car than buying a new EV(or new ICE car for that matter). People keep on playing down the effects of a new EV battery. The CO2 emissions of creating a new EV battery is massive. And if you ever buy 'just' a new battery for your EV that is yet another massive amount of CO2 emissions. People need to address the big emission problems of an EV battery because once created, it's not going away.
@@glennjgroves EVs are currently ill equipped to replace ICE cars(in general) as they are best suited for city journeys. This would explain why the take up in china is relatively good(many small EVs sold), but I would expect the take up in America to not be so good as Americans would need to make longer car journeys that small EVs cannot manage on a single charge.
Old cars are shown to be so polluting that it's better to crush vs repair them.
The shift to EVs is pretty slow here in India. Keeping aside those who appreciate the promises of new technology, there is massive mental inertia among the general masses who get easily manipulated by digital content that appeals to their cognitive biases. The govt.s EV policies and actions dont seem to be designed to help push against this regressive momentum as it prepares to head back again to the ‘golden age’ of coal dependency. Not to mention, our near totalitarian regime and its crony-capitalistic economic policies have left the masses too poor to purchase essentials, and too timid to ask for good things like progress.
Lots of Indian pollution and corruption, sadly.
i really enjoy you guys' handling visualization
digitally, physically, and playfully for sure
keep going!
Around 1/3 sold car is electric in Faroe Islands 😊
Centuries from people will be wondering why it took so long to create space travel.
Well, space travel is tied to ICBMs, so it could’ve only happened after WWII. Unless we developed another method to launch people.
@sourav jaiswal we need to bring back USSR 🌚
Destroying our planet and thinking to conquer the space🙄. Humans are a desgrace 👎🏻
@sourav jaiswal Batman is the bad guy
@sourav jaiswal There was also the whole pivot to the ISS and space shuttle program that NASA started to do in the '80s.
You dont mention that Norway can only afford huge EV subsidies due to it's massive oil & gas sales.
Exactly.. evs are nowhere near affordable to 95% of the people in the world.
I was looking to buy a car recently and the cheapest car Toyota Prius hybrid was 1. Mostly unavailable, and 2. Dealerships were charging $5000 extra because of the EV/hybrid car shortage.
No way was I going to pay $5000 extra on the cheapest barebone hybrid car.
Slovakia. Not many EV's here, they are expensive and now they are even way more expensive, Tesla, VW you name it.
But Chineese EV's creeping in.. Nio, Xpeng, Dongfeng. More affordable, they don't pull out and leave most expensive models like Vw does.
Another consideration for countries where cars are expensive is electric bikes, in at least one country there is more bike battery swapping stations than petrol stations.
I live in North Carolina and now every 5 to 10 cars in the area seem to be Tesla's. Other makes and models are starting to show up like the Ford F-150 Lightning, Ford Mustang MachE, Chevy Bolts Mercedes and BMW electric models. It seems every other month you're getting new fast charging stations as well and that was before the federal legislation that's gave us more money to install them. One out of every five of the largest gas station chain in the Raleigh area now has fast charging stations they're also showing up at Major box stores like Walmart and Target. They're several free fast charging stations in the area as well making the cost of fueling up basically zero.
Have I missed something? The video mentions that we are lacking charging standard as one of the challenges. But that is the one issue that we seem to have sorted out for now...
I live in Florida, USA. EVs are beginning to make a showing, even in spite of the many gas zombies that are still around. I believe that the biggest impediment by far in the proliferation of EVs in the United States is big oil and the politicians they buy to keep the status quo.
Ev car buyers are mind children,
Mind children are easily led - and easily misled.
@@jakedank2746so you're saying that it is better to continue to adversely change the environment than be proactive and make some kind of effort to mitigate the effects of our own deleterious activity.
In Canada, the change to fully electric cars is slow because it doesn't make sense. Canada experiences both extreme cold and heat, which makes the batteries in electric cars non-functional for part of the year. The range on an electric vehicle is still smaller than gas which also causes problems for people that don't live in major cities or need to travel long distances a lot; many parts of the country are very remote. Hybrid (electric and gas engine) cars are becoming popular, but a breakthrough in hydrogen fueled cars or battery technology is needed if we want to eliminate gas powered vehicles here.
Norway is a very small country ( population wise) with vast amounts of clean renewable energy, ( from hydro energy to get energy). They also have vast oil reserves that can fund outrageously generous subsidy programs.
I traded in my Lexus RX 350 for tesla model 3P! I have free tesla charger at work and rarely have to pay for charging! I just wish it had air suspension and backup auto brake detection! I do miss how smooth the Lexus was but other than that it’s perfect
EV are not a End solution. Human Centric Urbanism aka walkable city and Public transport(On rail idealy) is Da way.
EV are way heavier than oil car making the tire wear way faster, and Tire are an extreme source of Air pollution, massive public health impact and there are not recyclable nor renewable. We will not solve the problem of the climate by putting even more people on the roads increasing by thousand the plastic dust in the air on each city. Continuing this Car-centric urbanization where you have more than 80% of the territory only for roads and parking these cars is evil, unmoral, unethical, irrational, completely none utilitarian. The people who lobbied for this car-centric urbanism should be punish for crimes against humanity. And put it alongside the great murderers of the history.
They know exactly what they were doing. Like tobacco companies.
yes: 4:02
Hell yeah. r/fuckcars.
Walkable, bikable green cities with public transport are the best!
Why would EV's put even more people on the roads?
@@Richard482 because they're suppose to be cheaper to operate, "cleaner" and more "fun" to drive. it's a lot greenwashing
@@Lildizzle420 Well they are cheaper to run, as long as you can charge at home. Less CO2 emissions in the long term, depends entirely on what power sources are charging the car. The fun aspect would probably depend on the car, but my wife loves one pedal driving.
Batteries won't solve climate change
Mining lithium, chromium vanadium, rare elements is very energy intensive. What will happens to broken car batteries?
It will also be needed a way to recycle dead car batteries too
It is only 3% of cars sold in the Czech Republic. The pricing and the grid are a problem. We are not a large state but people still worry they might not get where they want with a battery-powered car.
Two things that concern me:
- In some places we are charging electric vehicles from the electricity generated from fossil fuel.
- Lithium is a very scarce resource. What do we do if we run out of that?
Generally, electric cars are more efficient in motion. Even if the source of electricity comes from fossil fuels, it will burn less. Plus the costs of solar panels have decreased by 90% between 2010 and 2020. It is only a matter of time it gets as efficient fossil fuels.
Lithium is extremely abundant. Way less scarce than fossil fuels. However miners need to increase their production. Which will happens since the demand for lithium is crazy atm.
Gasoline is far more toxic and takes many kws per gallon to refine.
We need to realize few countries produce and consume even a fraction of the electricity used by Norway. We're talking orders of magnitude of difference between the largest and smallest consumers of electricity in the world. To give everyone a 3 phase 16A connection is such a huge undertaking it's mindboggling.
EVs do not require 3 phase.
I went PHEV 7 years ago, and fully EV 3 years ago, no going back for me, they are just so much better to drive than ICE.
But they are still too expensive here in UK, public chargers are poor and often faulty, but they are now rapidly improving.
I think we have now reached the tipping point in favour of EVs. In future years ICE owners will be the ones with range anxiety, searching for petrol stations.
Conveniently omitted is that an electric car has to be driven 60,000 miles before it breaks even on the amount of pollution caused in creating it.
I live in Melbourne, Australia and see a number of Teslas every day. There is an EV changing point next to where I park my bike for uni and there is almost always a different car plugged in. I’m slowly beginning to see other brands but as we don’t have any good policies or incentives in place to promote rapid growth; the industry sends them to other countries that do have the policies as these EV’s are required there
80% of Australian electricity is generated from Coal, most EV's on the road may make the owners "feel better" but its doing jack sheep to help global warming, and they probably sold perfectly decent cars to buy those EV's, so you can add on the massive carbon cost of manufacturing those EV's, absolute Elon Musk brain washed Muppets.
Even better for the environment than EVs is not buying EVs.
True, but I think cars will always be here.
Makes almost double the pollution to make a ev vs a regular car
@@coltdevine994 But the lifetime carbon footprint of EVs is FAR smaller. It’s not just the manufacturing footprint, it’s the operation footprint.
@@davestagner depending on how the ev gets it's power. You'll still have to account for all the coal that is burned for most grids. Along with transportation emissions of all the resources. I do agree that some areas will have a lower lifetime but I don't think all will.
@@davestagner ..unless you count in manufacturing of whole new battery pack every few years...
I think India needs to invest more in its railways than investing in charging infrastructure. Indian railways transport over 23 million passengers daily. Most of this existing infrastructure is electric. Railways in India are greener, safer, and much more affordable.
Even better? Ditch personal cars entirely. If we actually give a s*** about environmental concerns, we should be an investing in mass transit walkable and bikable urbanism. Personal vehicles will be the death of our planet, EV or not.
True but that ship has sailed until the car culture fades. And that's already happening ☺️
we have to keep talking about it because there is still a lot of climate denial
THIS!
Fast personal transport is freedom. As whole personal transportation produces somewhere around 0,1% of planetary CO2 emissions, it´s really kinda silly , claiming that "personal vehicles will be the death of the whole planet" and it feels unnecessary to give it up. Also often I hear such talk from people, who live in cities, taling about bikes etc., forgetting, that food is still grown in the countryside, where - good luck with promoting bikes and public transport over here.
@@thespalek1 Nationally, the transportation sector contributes 28 percent of all greenhouse gas emissions-the most of any sector-and personal vehicles make up more than half of those emissions. Please don’t go around spreading misinformation.
Australia is incredibly backwards in this respect, EVs are expensive and charging infrastructure is rare. One Australian state even charges a per km levy on EV drivers
Here in California, EVs, mainly Teslas are increasing rapidly. In San Diego where I am Tesla Model 3s are almost as common as Honda Civics or Toyota Corollas.
We are going to see an explosion of innovation in all areas of EV and new energy. Batteries, electric motors, control equipment, charging, solar, everything. It's going to be a wild ride, there will be some science fiction come to life moments.
Thx bro.... Iam from the southern coastal reagion of India. Befor the pendamic era electrical cars wer very lesss will find one in a 50 cars in the traffic... But in 2022 its increased significantly in numbers charging station availability also started in downtowns and major cities, also state electricity board of gov: started their own chaging station but still need to imrpove the number of charging points with respect to the km range of an electric car....
Are you from Kerala??
A typical passenger vehicle emits about 4.6 metric tons of carbon dioxide per year.
The Tesla Model 3 holds an 80 kWh lithium-ion battery. CO2 emissions for manufacturing that battery would range between 2400 kg (almost two and a half metric tons) and 16,000 kg (16 metric tons).
In South Africa sadly not. Electric Vehicles are taxed at 42% whereas ICE vehicles are only taxed at 18% and sometimes even subsidized. The government also collects a lot of taxes through fuel sales and the country doesn't produce enough electricity even for businesses and households, nevermind cars. There has also been frequent power outages over the last 15 years that is getting worse. Add to that the ruling party has vested interests in the oil and gas industry and you understand why South Africa's government tries to block the adoption of electric vehicles and renewable energy - despite public and global pressure.
I think when we adopt the ev the problem occurs when the demand of gasoline will dropped the price of gasoline will also be drop so their should be very difficult for EV to completely kill gasoline engines in comparison of power and price ratio so their must be equlibirium in market untill all the electricity we generates must be completely transfer on renewable and their must be any breakthrough of new battery technology.
I live in San Diego and there has been an explosion of EVs recently. Charging stations have been installed down the street from me and the electric company is offering deals for off-peak charging discounts. It's a good intermediate to cut emissions today, but there needs to be a battery revolution away from lithium, followed by a transportation revolution away from private vehicle dependence.
Don't forget about the Nickel Iron Edison Battery back in the early days that was good for 40years. These were made for Ford and you can still find functional ones today.
Can you share some details?
@@paranoah1925 - “Building on the work of the Swedish inventor Ernst Waldemar Jungner, who first patented a nickel-iron battery in 1899, Edison sought to refine the battery for use in automobiles.
Edison claimed the nickel-iron battery was incredibly resilient, and could be charged twice as fast as lead-acid batteries. He even had a deal in place with Ford Motors to produce this purportedly more efficient electric vehicle.”
I mean.. In eastern eastern europe (the balkans etc.) the majority of cars driven and bought every year, are second hand cars - like 80% or such. Majority of people can't afford new ones, much less electric alternatives. The infrastructure is not very good, to put it mildly, and public transport is at best passable, so alot of people rely on their old vehicles or buy used ones, imported from western europe to save on cost. In third world countries they have it much worse.
The point is - when westerners decide to sell their EV's after 5 to 10 years of exploitation, the battery on those will more than likely been shot dead and in need of a change, which is not a very cheap endeavour. Anyone buying such a vehicle should be ready to splurge another few thousand $ for a replacement and this is simply impossible for average people in those regions. Furthermore, this will also have a negative effect on sales of perfectly usable used cars in the western countries, driving up sales of new cars, because nobody would want to bother when they can get the new model for a few thousand more. Basically a win for manufacturers, a loss for consumers. As always.
All in all, i'm all for eco-friendly but in my opinion, this is not the time and this is not the way, we need better, greener and more reliable batteries. Current technology is not ecological at all...
Indonesia, city Bandung still find 1 or 3 car EV on road, very far from a lot, because the price is expensive only people can afford a little. location for battrey recharge at home. in public places are rare too. probably still have to wait 20-50 years in the future.
I feel we need to work towards things like a Veemo or similar pedal driven but battery assisted small frame "vehicles" rather than full scale cars. They can go decently fast, they're stable, have storage, hell some bougie versions can have air condition and stuff lol But for the life of me I'll never understand why we decided driving around in massive 2000lb chunks of steel was a good idea. It's a bad use of raw resources, it causes hazards due to the weight and high speeds, and the pollution up til recently has been really bad. Honestly instead of full size vehicles, we could scale down and have techno-flintstones style vehicles. Battery would help so you don't break a sweat, just a constant steady pedal to keep the battery up basically.
Yeah, honestly you don't even need the battery assist for most purposes. Just go with a well-geared bicycle structure, and if these manufactures ever get around to figuring out how to build them to a decent durability it'll last forever. I just wish we could lower the speed limits to the point they could be a major part of the traffic outside of cities as well as in.
6:43 S-curve adoption phases: emergence, diffusion, culmination
Things are changing quickly now in Australia. In a federal election in 2019 the Conservative party argued against EV subsidies and won power. At the next election in 2022, the 2019 statements were successfully used by the opposition and a number of independent candidates to push the conservatives out of power. At the same time EV sales quadrupled in a year from 1% to 4% of new car sales.
Charging infrastructure and reliability is a major issue. I live in southern Spain and the network is limited, and the percentage of stations that work is about 30%
Friday is the day I pick my Tesla model 3 LG, my first EV.
In in Monterrey México It's more common to see electrified cars only at neighborhoods were people with greater incomes live.
True, even here in the States. But even Chevy introduced the all new $30K Equinox that has long range, good looks, and will prob spur other lower cost and desirable competition.
Oil companies should be shitting themselves at this point cuz all the automakers are going electric. Even Ferrari introduced a new electric SUV this week!
The same was true of gas powered cars circa 1900. Only the wealthy could afford them. Going back further, only wealthy people had horses.
But that changed rather quickly, and as continued development and economies of scale take hold, the cost of electric cars is likely to be similar to gas powered cars within five years, and could be significantly lower (adjusted for inflation) in another ten to twenty years.
Indian govt is giving subsidies to people but still it is on expensive side... twice the cost of an averge ICE car
An electric car makes no difference if your grid is powered by coal, what needs to be worked on is better energy storage compared to current battery technology.
Actually, it does. A power plant is going to be much more efficient than an ICE that needs to be mobile and run at suboptimal states. Gasoline also takes a lot of energy to refine.
In waves it does I remember halogen came out in an LED came out a year later
Feedback: I was curious why battery technology was at an almost standstill for almost century. Why was that?
In the mid 1920's the north american automotive market was split 50/50 between electric and gas.
Nope
I'm a bit skeptical over the electric cars, because they also create a lot of new problems to be solved in the process of mitigating the climate change issue, ex: dumping old batteries.
The first step we should take is "Greening our habits", which means less consumption, smarter cities and an easy access to services in general. It sounds a utopic, but it's possible do be done.
Love the graphic illustration.❤😊
India: electric cars are rare as a unicorn
Companies could have increased energy density of batteries if they really wanted but oil giants never wanted to loose their monopoly. Lot's of innovators voice were silenced during oil majors heydays. People were made to believe that there's no alternative to IC ENGINES. But electrical revolution is inevitable this time & EVs are gaining popularity in my home town. Curiosity among
customers for higher energy density storage is just shooting up higher.
My nine-year-old Tesla is still going strong and it is on it to original battery
What's the mileage?
What's the mostly insurance?
@@ululukululu450 135,000 miles. The insurance only went up $50 per 6 months period versus my old Chevy.
Great video!!
very nice video
It’s funny you mentioned Elon Musk barely once and you are talking about future of EV.
They’re becoming popular, but the US isn’t ready to be an “electric car only “ country
Hello from Colombia !
charging stations mostly non existent: cebu, ph
Sorry I live in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦
Electric vehicles are probably not as beneficial as in countries where most electricity comes from renewable energy. But I would appreciate better air quality…
Most of the reasons given for electrifying transportation have been falsified. They are more about salesmanship and public relations than reality.
However there are three real reasons for the switch: (1) energy security; (2) higher efficiency; and (3) air quality.
The air quality issue is much bigger than it may seem, yet not especially useful for selling to the public due to status quo bias. So your desire for cleaner air is actually one of the better reasons to want to switch.
I live in Thailnad, the price of electric car is quite same as combustion. however, most of them still come from china. So reliaable really play importance role here. Also infrastructure doesnot run in the same pace.
Thank you. Keep on
BEV’s are coming, but surprised you said nothing about Tesla.
at the same time this is also going to push people to either buy an EV or convert their existing gas powered car to an EV. which is something that I wanna try out.
Reliability is a concern. My 1983 Toyota still runs well. Will the battery lasts as long?
You needn't worry, new battery tech like the 4680 cell is supposed to be good for over 1 million miles. this is not the only battery tech making these sort of claims, and although not widespread, it shows the potential for future battery tech.
Battery will not last as long as any gasoline engine.
@@daydreamer8373 future battery tech pops up every other week. Yet nobody made it real yet. I've driven bEVs few years old, which couldn't do over 50 miles in real life...
@@thespalek1 I have driven my EV for the last 5 years and it still has the same range as when we bought it. Tesla's 4680 cell is already in production, and slowly being ramped. There are many other battery technologies like LFP showing real potential. Basically batteries are not an issue people imagine it to be.
@@coltdevine994 Correct, battery tech will last longer.
Norway and Finland are both a minute percent of the world population. The world’s electricity grid will have to be massively expanded which won’t happen due to cost.
What is your excuse for the population in China?
When you said India has less than 50k EVs on road...that's wrong on few levels. 1. There are millions of electric 3ws, few hundred thousand electric 2ws in addition to 60000+ electric 4ws. 2. 90% of those 60000+ electric cars were sold in last 1 year or so and the sales have multiplied 3-4 times across all segments in just 1 year. So, the stats would be drastically different in next few years.
It took so long that even electric cars won't save us now. Only less cars, much more bikes and trains.
The next step will be getting people to get over the idea that individually-owned private cars are an actual necessity. Self-driving publically-owned cars would solve all transportation requirements using existing road infrastructure while significantly reducing the sizes of fleets worldwide. After all, privately-owned cars spend the great majority of their lifetimes unused and parked in garages, which is a total waste of space and the energy that went into manufacturing them in the first place.
Electrification of the fleet as an ecologic step is a marketing ploy... Why? Even though electric drivetrains may be more efficient and may require less maintenance, the reality remains - where does the power you charge your vehicle come from? If it's solar based, OK, if it's tidal based, OK as well, if it's wind generator, OK again, if it's water dam based, OK still, but the majority would come out of an electric grid infrastructure powered by coal power plants, and that means you're just shifting the responsibility and pollutions from the vehicles into the grid supplier. OK, some areas/grids may also have nuclear reactors as power source, but the core across the globe is still coal based... Norway has leap-frogged most countries thanks to several key factors: financial support/incentives to buy electric vehicles, infrastructure throughout major towns to support charging (eg. the famous underground parking lots for electric vehicles), grid powered not only by coal but also with dams and a few wind ones but also nuclear and tidal and geothermal energy sources... This means people are incentivised to buy EVs, they are offered sprawling and already hugely successful grid/infra to charge/use those EVs, and the majority of the energy in the grid actually comes from renewable resources, so the EV route is somewhat cheaper and greener and easier to live with. Other countries unfortunately are still lacking... Heck, in some countries the price difference between ICEV and EV variants of the "same"/similar model can be as high as 50%, and without any external incentives this can amount to a difference worth of approx. 6m3 of PB95/98 fuel which can then translate to about 1700 days of approx. 60km daily routes, so basically to about 5-6 years of car "free" usage (excluding other costs)... and that makes EVs hard sells in many markets. And that's good, cause those countries might not sport grid strong enough to provide power to all the households, offices, factories and... charging stations that would be required if people switched to EVs en masse.
We charge overnight with otherwise wasted wind
@@NicholasLittlejohn Then you're more ecological than the majority of the EVs' buyers around the globe... and that's the unfortunate truth.
There's a bit more nuance than that.
You may live in a place with lots of coal power, but in the U.S. coal is now producing only about 20% of electricity. Pretty much any other source is cleaner.
But even using coal there are two big advantages to EVs: (1) higher efficiency means less total fuel used; and (2) relocation of air pollution from densely populated areas to less densely populated areas, where it will affect far fewer people.
Aside from that, it is easier to switch a few big power plants from coal to natural gas or something else, than it is switch a whole automobile fleet, and apart from the question of air quality this also is good for energy security, as it is much easier to shift energy sources this way than it would be to switch an entire existing automobile fleet from oil to something else if for some reason oil became unavailable.
@IJŠƇĦͦ̚5ɜPƔNjƇάȥɓϋξ îπɛş\x91͈ǷǯƠɱ\ True, they can be. And if renewable sources are available even better. But regarding the cleaner part or less dependence... EVs require batteries to run, same as laptops or mobiles or many other electronic goods after all, and this extra weight can eat up parts of the efficiency formula. But putting extra tonnage aside, and sure the EVs can combat the weight penalty with more efficient packaging and aerodynamics, the problem are still the batteries themselves... They're not degradable, they're not everlasting, they're made of precious elements/metals sourced from mostly Argentina/Chile/Bolivia or Australia or China or Russia. And after they die, and they do sooner or later depending on technology used, they're not yet properly recycled to recoup the precious metals back into supply chain, instead they're being put aside into landfills... Sure the end product in the EVs is not required to be replenished, or even possible to do so, by those precious materials every day you use the device/vehicle, nor do we need to replace the batteries on a daily schedule, so the amount of "trash" is not something as easily discernible as plastic bottles filling a garbage bin, but the sustainability or cleanness factors still remain not yet properly dealt with. Furthermore, the dependence on certain countries remains, only switched to other countries' list as the metals are currently mostly supplied from other countries and at different stage in the vehicle life... Maybe once the graphene or solidstate batteries hit the market the cleanness or better supply chains aspects could be improved, but the question is when... On the other hand, there's an alternative eg. Toyota even toyed with - going hydrogen. It's extremely efficient in terms of weight/packaging in terms of storage in the vehicle, basically same tech as used for oil/gas/LPG, it's capable of being used in IECs with small modifications to the engines themselves but it can use other engine designs for less combusting approaches, it's replenished as fast as regular liquid fuels, and it burns with negligible impact on air pollution levels... Basically a mist of water out of the tailpipe... And hydrogen production/supply could be managed by most countries themselves, using their powerplants/chemical plants infrastructure and some water sources...
I want a car driven by Windenergy. Sitting right on top of my cars roof
So many people won't ever do this.
I saw only a few hybrid cars on streets. Also some electric motocycles. Charging point no one yet. Ecuador
As an everyday consumer I can confidently confirm that electric cars are not "taking over".
@@ianhamilton3113 No it won't. I can attest to that.
My first EV is an electric bicycle 🚲 that I ride to work almost every day maybe some day I can afford an electric car 🚗.
For the young Chinese car buyers, two options, cheap EV or expensive EV. 😊
Not only price is a problem but also the security of recicling batteries. Will not be Li-ion used batteries thrown from rich countries to Africa? Are you sure?
Were i live had the “Gurgel” one of the brands that tried to apply the electric cars to the market in the 70’s, in a cheap way. Today’s we didn’t see almost any electric car or charge stations in Brazilians street’s
Early 1990s: "... ultimately the problem is the batteries."
2022: technically the problem is still the batteries. They are better, but still expensive, heavy, slow to charge, delicate, doesn't last as long and need raw materials from mining. Hopefully we get better batteries technology soon or hydrogen fuel cell technology to catch up
Not to mention there aren't enough known sources of the raw materials for a 1:1 replacement of petrol cars, besides which the effect on local populations is absolutely devastating. Besides which, if EVs emit 70% less CO2 than ICEVs, that means their carbon footprint is still a third of the size, i.e. nowhere near good enough. Sure, EVs are better than ICEVs, but we really need to be moving away from the concept of externally-powered personal transportation.
@@traveller23e Exactly. We can't just keep living car-dependent lives, but with EVs. Electrification is necessary, but we need to focus on building places to live that are walkable, bikable, and served by transit. This has the advantage of making our built environment more pleasant and accessible to people of all abilities and ages.