I think a lot of the "magic" from Chapter 1 came from not knowing what was going to happen. I didn't constantly see leaks and didn't know ANYTHING until it was released in game. Nowadays I know just about everything beforehand, which is fine, it's just how it is now.
From a business standpoint, all of this og stuff returning works since Fortnite players are the biggest nostalgia merchants on the planet. I think Fortnite should watch the public opinion of old Fortnite change as people remember what made them hate the game so that it'll push them to pump out way better content that doesn't rely on the past.
I miss past seasons for certain mechanics/weapons that were taken out These people miss past seasons for earlier Unity engines and "vibes' We are not the same.
The same seems to happens every chapter. Ch2s7 was horrendous at the start because of the broken ufos and lackluster summer event yet people look back fondly. Same thing with ch5s1, back then it was baddly received yet people will say "it's the best season of the chapter". Strangely enough the reverse happened with primal. I rarely saw people complaining about it back then exept maybe for the primal shotgun yet people have grown to hate it for reasons that were blown out of proportion
You gotta look at it from outside the box. Far more people loved Chapter 1 than hated on it, that was a vocal minority. Second outlook: People that did dislike Chapter 1 who have swapped opinions now are far more skilled than they were then. Back then the weapons, vehicles, mechs etc were extremely deadly. It was more of a spam fest because we didn't yet have the collective skill to counter. It will most definitely be different this go around because we can appropriately counter all the broken shit. My 2 cents.
One thing I will say, you don’t have to like newer seasons or chapters. Liking OG is fine (I didn’t play it but I can see how others do). It can get a bit much though when the small nostalgia starts to cloud accurate judgement. Titled Towers isn’t just better than Mega City because it’s OG for example, and it’s sometimes hard to differentiate between nostalgia and actual decent opinions. Just remember, Nostalgia is a drug that misconstrues our memories.
I feel like there is definitely a part of the community that wants this game to die, every time there is anything added people say that the the game is gonna die within the next month despite fortnite getting like 10 million daily players.
I think people need to realize that the reason they had more fun in Chapter 1 is because of the people the played with, who they don't play with now. I believe Layo made a point in his most recent video that even though he had fun wirb Chapter 5 and Reload, most of his fun was due to the people he was playing with, and I think that is the source of why people look back on it fondly. Also I think Fortnite is starting to hit a ceiling when it comes to innovation, you can only add so many new things over the course of 7 years.
Hugely agree with just about everything said in this video, especially regarding both OG and Reload being permanent game modes. It won't eat into BR players but I feel like having both OG and Reload is extremely redundant. I don't think OG even needed to be its own game mode honestly, I think Reload does a perfect job at being a unique spin on OG, so that players who want a more familiar experience can play that. Granted, the game flow of OG and Reload are vastly different but Fortnite is a game constantly evolving and changing. I'll be honest and say Chapter 1 didn't really get interesting until about 4 seasons in, so I get the feeling people are going to go back into OG for a bit, say it's the best thing ever and quuiiiickly find themselves bored.
The truth about nostalgia is that it only works so much. For example, Tobey Maguires return in No Way Home was amazing(For some people) but if he kept on coming back, it wouldn’t feel the same as when we first saw him return. I’m calling it, OG is going to be like LEGO last year. People are going to call it the Battle Royale killer, but it’s gonna end up with 50k players by the end of the year because after a while, OG chapter 1 will no longer be nostalgic for people because we now have it all the time.
I joined in ch3s3 and have played 50+ hours in every season since and I really find this whole situation humorous. I grew up playing Pokemon in the 2000s and towards the tail end of that decade we saw the emergence of a particular sort of fan who really only loved the first two gens ONLY, and actively seemed to despise the modern games (newer fans might be surprised to find this was happening even back then). These kind of fans were eventually called "Genwunners" by other fans because of their constant whining about the new games in comparison to earlier gens, specifically gen 1 hence "Genwunner". You get the impression that these people played the game when they were very young and the franchise left them behind. A similar thing is happening here where players played the earlier seasons at a younger age and thus have more lenient opinions on the content of the seasons. Eventually the developers of the pokemon games began pandering to these people in the same way we are seeing Epic do now with Chapter 1 diehards (a group distinct from normal fans mind you). The 2010s was partially defined by this pandering as it infected every form of Pokemon media throughout the decade. The key is this though, the devs never stopped making new things and over time this pandering has become less and less, and seems to be on the way out entirely. People will get their fill of OG in time. The best thing to do is just ignore the more fanatical fans who can't see past their own bias.
That's because, 1: the map is slightly different, 2: it's not just the map, it was the entire game that people miss from C2. The entire game was different, not just the map.
I mean even if it was the classic spy POIs I genuinely kind of bored of the map already lmao. Definitely not as good as I thought of it. Not bad just not as good as I remember
I’m kind of done with the OG community. If we’ve learned anything in these past few weeks, it’s that a lot of the OGs are some of the biggest cry babies in Fortnite history. I loved OG Fortnite, it was great because of its imperfections. I loved overpowered weapons and glitches and all that, it gave the game personality and made it special, in fact a lot of glitches became features of the game that people loved. But OGs have been crying about things being wrong with the game forever, and they’re the biggest reason Fortnite is what it is today, and I don’t mean that in a good way. Fortnite was such a fun game, with constant unique content, and an inflow of updates. But the og community were always complaining about the changes, so you can thank them that Fortnite seasons are so stale with very few changes now, and that any creativity has to come from content creators now. OG was the best experience I’ve ever had gaming, and I loved it for its imperfections and old features and all that good stuff. But with OG coming back, and the debate about old battle passes returning, we’re seeing the dark side of the og community again. I’m not saying every OG is like this, heck I’m a season 3 OG and speaking out against this, but most of them are and the majority I’ve encountered across numerous comments sections act like this. OG Fortnite was a great game, not for the nostalgia, but because it was actually fun and original and interesting, and the OGs killed that. Now they want it back, and I’m sure that as soon as they get OG back we’re going to hear more complaints about how bad and boring the game was.
Yup I loved chapter 2 and the later chapter 1 seasons throughout, season x and 9 are some of my fav season ever!! Chapter 2 is the best chapter imo and that’s been my opinion forever!! But the community doesn’t realize that og Fortnite wasn’t as great as it was
Ima be honest, playin reload more than og mode prob, because while yes, using same map sorta, its the gamemodes own thing, and it will be funner than just playing the old stuff over and over
Here’s an opinion from someone who started in season 5, played till 9, then came back after a long ass time into the latter half of season og fortnite. The argument of forgettable poi’s is ass because places like retail row or pleasant park were in the game for like 4 fucking years, maybe longer of course you’d remember that And let’s be honest, a good chunk of players who hate on new things hate on it because it isn’t chapter 1
Fr. Honestly people use chapter one as an excuse for why they don’t like the game. A game is “trash” when it’s not how they like it. JUST PLAY ANOTHER GAME INSTEAD OF MOPING AROUND DUDE. This game has always been changing but when the changes are currently happening people act like satan himself is destroying the planet. I swear come next season we’re gonna see people glaze primal
Don't worry I'll forever hate Chapter 5, Chapter 4 and 3 were bad but I really enjoyed them both, started on Vibin with a Friend bc of Zero Build and really enjoyed my time at the start, but looking at it now I can't say it was a good time anymore. I miss Chapter 4 because Chapter 5 was worst, but I still remember rage quitting fighting against the Twin Mag Assault Rifle on Last Resort, got really annoying really fast but it still was a good season with its additions and changes. People need to reafirm their opinions, switching sides constantly is stupid
You gotta remember that some people actually enjoyed the old seasons. None the less i completely agree with this video chp2 szn2 is regarded as the greatest season oat but when it was really that time evreyone was complaing about chp2 szn2 saying things like "the bosses are to op" or "this lootpool sucks" but now its i wish i could just go back and play chp2 szn2 like all of thoose problems never existed
It wont exactly be the OG map when its here now forever. Kinda kills the OG part of it ngl. but whatever, if people enjoy it, their shit. I just hope Ill be able to uninstall the OG mode, cause holy shit itll be a lot of GB.
One thing that seems to be going on is that it seems that Fortnite doesn't guarantee itself with its original content and keeps putting out collab after collab just to attract more players I miss the time when Fortnite made a lot of original content and collabs were just an extra
I’ve always loved chapter 1 and 3 and always had mixed opinions about chapter 2. I don’t think it’s as much about peoples opinions changing as different people being vocal online. Lots of people from chapter 1 don’t play anymore sadly and therefore don’t talk about the game.
This video completely disregards the possibility that Fortnite has just gotten worse with each new chapter. People look back fondly on chapters and seasons that they used to hate, because... they were bad for the time. Compare them to now, C2 S6 and Season X don't seem so bad. Also the 'enlightened' people who claim to not let nostalgia affect their perception of the past are delusional, because you can't control that. If anything, their belief that they see those seasons at face value would inherently be affected by nostalgia, and as a result, may over correct their opinion on a past chapter. The only way I'll look back on chapter 5 fondly is if Epic make future chapters worse.
Heres the the thing tho it doesnt matter how good fortnite makes a season people while like the og version og fortnite was a 7 fortnite og reminded people og fortnite wasnt that good but people still will say og fortnite was so goo
@updagtagh I don't think there is enough evidence to conclude that, and Fortnite Chapter OG was recieved very well, not because of nostalgia, but because of quality.
cus og is simple and all the new fortnite shit is overcomplicated (bosses,npcs,mythics,changed art style from cartoony to whatever it is right now ect.)
“You know, I actually enjoyed Chapter 5 Season 3.”
“Shut up, you don’t enjoy true Fortnite!”
Sound familiar?
I think a lot of the "magic" from Chapter 1 came from not knowing what was going to happen. I didn't constantly see leaks and didn't know ANYTHING until it was released in game. Nowadays I know just about everything beforehand, which is fine, it's just how it is now.
@@prozero yeah, I’d blame the leakers, but they just do what they do, so it’s kinda just whatever you know.
@@Squorzelit's to get us hyped
@ wait what happened to my comment? Also yeah
@TVMan_Fan-1 then, that ruins the hype 2 weeks in
From a business standpoint, all of this og stuff returning works since Fortnite players are the biggest nostalgia merchants on the planet. I think Fortnite should watch the public opinion of old Fortnite change as people remember what made them hate the game so that it'll push them to pump out way better content that doesn't rely on the past.
I miss past seasons for certain mechanics/weapons that were taken out
These people miss past seasons for earlier Unity engines and "vibes'
We are not the same.
The same seems to happens every chapter. Ch2s7 was horrendous at the start because of the broken ufos and lackluster summer event yet people look back fondly. Same thing with ch5s1, back then it was baddly received yet people will say "it's the best season of the chapter". Strangely enough the reverse happened with primal. I rarely saw people complaining about it back then exept maybe for the primal shotgun yet people have grown to hate it for reasons that were blown out of proportion
I personally liked ch2 season 7 because I thought it was really fun
I loved chapter 3 and chapter 5, since my two favorite brands came in the game, tmnt and spider-man
I guarantee people will miss chapter 5 next year 😂
"WUH GUH? IMPOSSNIBALE😡😡😡😡"
You gotta look at it from outside the box. Far more people loved Chapter 1 than hated on it, that was a vocal minority. Second outlook: People that did dislike Chapter 1 who have swapped opinions now are far more skilled than they were then. Back then the weapons, vehicles, mechs etc were extremely deadly. It was more of a spam fest because we didn't yet have the collective skill to counter. It will most definitely be different this go around because we can appropriately counter all the broken shit. My 2 cents.
One thing I will say, you don’t have to like newer seasons or chapters. Liking OG is fine (I didn’t play it but I can see how others do). It can get a bit much though when the small nostalgia starts to cloud accurate judgement. Titled Towers isn’t just better than Mega City because it’s OG for example, and it’s sometimes hard to differentiate between nostalgia and actual decent opinions. Just remember, Nostalgia is a drug that misconstrues our memories.
“You don’t know what you had until it’s gone”
I appreciate everything that this game adds, unlike most of the community
@@TVMan_Fan-1 honesty and facts
The nostalgia train only has so much fuel and it’s a long trek back on foot when it’s over
I feel like there is definitely a part of the community that wants this game to die, every time there is anything added people say that the the game is gonna die within the next month despite fortnite getting like 10 million daily players.
2:44 "i can feel it coming inside of me"
Nostalgia is so overrated
Nah
Nuh uh
I was scrolling in tiktok and saw a C5S3 edit didn't we say that season was straight chit😂
I think people need to realize that the reason they had more fun in Chapter 1 is because of the people the played with, who they don't play with now. I believe Layo made a point in his most recent video that even though he had fun wirb Chapter 5 and Reload, most of his fun was due to the people he was playing with, and I think that is the source of why people look back on it fondly.
Also I think Fortnite is starting to hit a ceiling when it comes to innovation, you can only add so many new things over the course of 7 years.
Bro is spitting facts 😂
Hugely agree with just about everything said in this video, especially regarding both OG and Reload being permanent game modes.
It won't eat into BR players but I feel like having both OG and Reload is extremely redundant. I don't think OG even needed to be its own game mode honestly, I think Reload does a perfect job at being a unique spin on OG, so that players who want a more familiar experience can play that.
Granted, the game flow of OG and Reload are vastly different but Fortnite is a game constantly evolving and changing.
I'll be honest and say Chapter 1 didn't really get interesting until about 4 seasons in, so I get the feeling people are going to go back into OG for a bit, say it's the best thing ever and quuiiiickly find themselves bored.
The truth about nostalgia is that it only works so much. For example, Tobey Maguires return in No Way Home was amazing(For some people) but if he kept on coming back, it wouldn’t feel the same as when we first saw him return. I’m calling it, OG is going to be like LEGO last year. People are going to call it the Battle Royale killer, but it’s gonna end up with 50k players by the end of the year because after a while, OG chapter 1 will no longer be nostalgic for people because we now have it all the time.
No mantling, no sprinting. No cars. Maybe even less
The cycle happens with any game, especially with COD fans
I joined in ch3s3 and have played 50+ hours in every season since and I really find this whole situation humorous. I grew up playing Pokemon in the 2000s and towards the tail end of that decade we saw the emergence of a particular sort of fan who really only loved the first two gens ONLY, and actively seemed to despise the modern games (newer fans might be surprised to find this was happening even back then). These kind of fans were eventually called "Genwunners" by other fans because of their constant whining about the new games in comparison to earlier gens, specifically gen 1 hence "Genwunner". You get the impression that these people played the game when they were very young and the franchise left them behind. A similar thing is happening here where players played the earlier seasons at a younger age and thus have more lenient opinions on the content of the seasons.
Eventually the developers of the pokemon games began pandering to these people in the same way we are seeing Epic do now with Chapter 1 diehards (a group distinct from normal fans mind you). The 2010s was partially defined by this pandering as it infected every form of Pokemon media throughout the decade. The key is this though, the devs never stopped making new things and over time this pandering has become less and less, and seems to be on the way out entirely. People will get their fill of OG in time. The best thing to do is just ignore the more fanatical fans who can't see past their own bias.
Never realized how boring the Chapter 2 map was until remix came around
Dawg it's literally the opposite. I appreciate it even more now
@@SpicyInkI see a lot of people complaining about remix
That's because, 1: the map is slightly different, 2: it's not just the map, it was the entire game that people miss from C2. The entire game was different, not just the map.
I mean even if it was the classic spy POIs I genuinely kind of bored of the map already lmao. Definitely not as good as I thought of it. Not bad just not as good as I remember
I already thought the chapter 2 map was one of the worst, this just confirms that
I’m kind of done with the OG community. If we’ve learned anything in these past few weeks, it’s that a lot of the OGs are some of the biggest cry babies in Fortnite history. I loved OG Fortnite, it was great because of its imperfections. I loved overpowered weapons and glitches and all that, it gave the game personality and made it special, in fact a lot of glitches became features of the game that people loved. But OGs have been crying about things being wrong with the game forever, and they’re the biggest reason Fortnite is what it is today, and I don’t mean that in a good way. Fortnite was such a fun game, with constant unique content, and an inflow of updates. But the og community were always complaining about the changes, so you can thank them that Fortnite seasons are so stale with very few changes now, and that any creativity has to come from content creators now. OG was the best experience I’ve ever had gaming, and I loved it for its imperfections and old features and all that good stuff. But with OG coming back, and the debate about old battle passes returning, we’re seeing the dark side of the og community again. I’m not saying every OG is like this, heck I’m a season 3 OG and speaking out against this, but most of them are and the majority I’ve encountered across numerous comments sections act like this. OG Fortnite was a great game, not for the nostalgia, but because it was actually fun and original and interesting, and the OGs killed that. Now they want it back, and I’m sure that as soon as they get OG back we’re going to hear more complaints about how bad and boring the game was.
Yup I loved chapter 2 and the later chapter 1 seasons throughout, season x and 9 are some of my fav season ever!! Chapter 2 is the best chapter imo and that’s been my opinion forever!! But the community doesn’t realize that og Fortnite wasn’t as great as it was
I also think people who enjoys chapter 1 so much also forgets that chapter 1 also had balancing issues and a lot of glitches
Ima be honest, playin reload more than og mode prob, because while yes, using same map sorta, its the gamemodes own thing, and it will be funner than just playing the old stuff over and over
Here’s an opinion from someone who started in season 5, played till 9, then came back after a long ass time into the latter half of season og fortnite.
The argument of forgettable poi’s is ass because places like retail row or pleasant park were in the game for like 4 fucking years, maybe longer of course you’d remember that
And let’s be honest, a good chunk of players who hate on new things hate on it because it isn’t chapter 1
The only thing that I’m really excited for OG’s return is the OG Pass that’s coming with it
Fr. Honestly people use chapter one as an excuse for why they don’t like the game. A game is “trash” when it’s not how they like it. JUST PLAY ANOTHER GAME INSTEAD OF MOPING AROUND DUDE. This game has always been changing but when the changes are currently happening people act like satan himself is destroying the planet. I swear come next season we’re gonna see people glaze primal
Horrible mentality
Or maybe it was just better? Why is that hard to believe
@@Sammy-bj7ff horrible mentality
He quite littery said it was better but it's not perfect and has plenty of flaws and some aspects of the new game is better
Elbow reveal was very epic, finger reveal at 100k fr
But fr congrats on 10k you deserve it so much
he showed his whole hand and his fingers in the video lmao
Don't worry I'll forever hate Chapter 5, Chapter 4 and 3 were bad but I really enjoyed them both, started on Vibin with a Friend bc of Zero Build and really enjoyed my time at the start, but looking at it now I can't say it was a good time anymore. I miss Chapter 4 because Chapter 5 was worst, but I still remember rage quitting fighting against the Twin Mag Assault Rifle on Last Resort, got really annoying really fast but it still was a good season with its additions and changes. People need to reafirm their opinions, switching sides constantly is stupid
You gotta remember that some people actually enjoyed the old seasons. None the less i completely agree with this video chp2 szn2 is regarded as the greatest season oat but when it was really that time evreyone was complaing about chp2 szn2 saying things like "the bosses are to op" or "this lootpool sucks" but now its i wish i could just go back and play chp2 szn2 like all of thoose problems never existed
Ain't no party like a Lilsmurfiddy party am I right
Man fortnite has been making trash seasons and updates since Chapter 1 fortnite isn't perfect
Facts as always❤️🔥🙏🗣
I really don't know what to expect from Chapter 1 coming back. It's gonna be interesting
I agree, but I swear that I never disliked chapter 4, in my opinion chapter 4 was awesome, I always liked it (except season 3)
Knee reveal when?
After knee surgery
@@ace_renegade21what surgery?
@@TVMan_Fan-1 knee surgery is tommorow 🥶🗣🔥🔥🔥🎄
20k?
It wont exactly be the OG map when its here now forever. Kinda kills the OG part of it ngl. but whatever, if people enjoy it, their shit. I just hope Ill be able to uninstall the OG mode, cause holy shit itll be a lot of GB.
I imagine that option to have to download other modes you barely play will help with that
One thing that seems to be going on is that it seems that Fortnite doesn't guarantee itself with its original content and keeps putting out collab after collab just to attract more players
I miss the time when Fortnite made a lot of original content and collabs were just an extra
Reject Nostalgia
EMBRACE Coroplocs Dabbing
I’ve been waiting for the elbow reveal
I personally did not play chaper 1 or 2 I started in chapter 4 I don't get any of this I miss chapter 1 stuff. plus I liked chapter 5 season 3
I’ve always loved chapter 1 and 3 and always had mixed opinions about chapter 2. I don’t think it’s as much about peoples opinions changing as different people being vocal online. Lots of people from chapter 1 don’t play anymore sadly and therefore don’t talk about the game.
This video completely disregards the possibility that Fortnite has just gotten worse with each new chapter. People look back fondly on chapters and seasons that they used to hate, because... they were bad for the time. Compare them to now, C2 S6 and Season X don't seem so bad. Also the 'enlightened' people who claim to not let nostalgia affect their perception of the past are delusional, because you can't control that. If anything, their belief that they see those seasons at face value would inherently be affected by nostalgia, and as a result, may over correct their opinion on a past chapter. The only way I'll look back on chapter 5 fondly is if Epic make future chapters worse.
Heres the the thing tho it doesnt matter how good fortnite makes a season people while like the og version og fortnite was a 7 fortnite og reminded people og fortnite wasnt that good but people still will say og fortnite was so goo
@updagtagh I don't think there is enough evidence to conclude that, and Fortnite Chapter OG was recieved very well, not because of nostalgia, but because of quality.
2:43 🤨📸
Lmfaoo he actually did the elbow reveal 😂
1:07 👀🔥
Thank you for this video
bro cooked so hard I gained 100lbs (Americamaxxing so hard)
cus og is simple and all the new fortnite shit is overcomplicated (bosses,npcs,mythics,changed art style from cartoony to whatever it is right now ect.)
It will be boring without all of the things that they added
@@TVMan_Fan-1 fr
HE'S A STAR WARS FAN!! Now I know he has good opinion.
Lilsmurf feet reveal when
Yo W vid already watched at 30x
Rare lilsmurf W?
*common
@@LilSmurfYT*extremely common
mario party music 🥺
I will say it once and I will say it again Fortnite is the best video game ever and w video
1:13. LIAR, IT'S NOT BLUE
face reveal smof
Probably at 100k subs
2:44 .
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