A look at "The Claw" -- a machine made by Sanyo to destroy CDs and DVDs. Featuring clips from "Vista Install in 2 Minutes" by Anthony Cumia: • Vista install in 2 min...
My little brother always loved destroying old CDs. I’d give him a few failed burns and he’d do what ever with them (microwaving them had some really cool results )
@@serraramayfield9230i have a friend who thinks wolverine sized nails are a fantastic idea and every time she uses a shredder I get PTSD. Now learning hard drive shredders exist I'm getting even more worried 😂
Quite amazed people had enough discs in their life that they needed an arbitary device to destroy them. I'm guessing this was more for offices, rather than home use?
@@fruitezxd Problem is so long as some of the bits survive the process them some of the evidence might still be recoverable by law enforcement. You'd be surprised what they can recover.
I work in healthcare, specifically Radiology/Medical imaging, and we make a TON of CDs for patients/doctors/lawyers etc. While watching this video at first I thought "Oh my goodness, this is so cool and useful!" At a previous job, we paid a company to take away our discard CDs. At the job I'm at now, we have a super noisy shredder that destroys the CDs, creating plastic shrapnel in the process. As I watched the video, I realized that this product wouldn't help us at all, as it doesn't do anything to destroy anything written on the CD. Our CD burning robot prints a label with the patient's name directly on the CD (using a thermal printer). Cool product, but useless for my needs.
You could try one of those abrasive CD repair machines that normally polishes the other side but instead you could use it label side to quickly sand away that top layer, label and foil (data).
This actually solved part of a mystery for me. This has to be where alot of people stored their Playstation discs in the 90s. In this, and as coasters, frisbees and gravelpile flatening devices.
Reminds me a friend of mine that had a PS1 game CD, pirate at that of course, that looked like a freaking moon surface shot, if you held it against a light it looked like a starry sky. I have no clue how the PS1 still ran that crap.
Usually that stuff got stored as bare CDs, no cases, just stacked up on top of each other, treated like dirty socks or something. This is why some people have only bad experiences with things that they buy.
@@Kalvinjj Maybe that is part of the reason why some people, more than other peoples laser quit working too, since it worked overtime reading through those discs.. @Jared Maddox Yeah, that`s absolutely not how to store a disc, I do not understand why people do not care about their stuff at all. I have seen discs soo scratched that I do not understand how it is possible, unless it happened on purpose. And this goes to not just CDs, but cars, apartments, and everything in-between. Some people just destroy stuff, they are like living CLAWS.
In the Army, while working in G3 planning shops we used to render CDs unusable by putting them into a microwave for a few seconds. Once the fireworks are over with, the CD is unreadable by anything.
I used to work at Mc Donalds back in 2008. I was a frycook and occasionally they'd have me flipping the burger meats. One day a coworker had a large stack of CDs/DVDs he needed to destroy and he asked around about it. I told him 5 seconds in the mircrowave was the fastest way to do it since they have a metal reflective coading that the microwave will easily destroy. So that's what he did. put the whole stack in the microwave. ... The one we use for things line cinnabuns and hotcakes... Looking back it was probably not the best idea to do that in the same microwave used to cook food. Should have put them in a sealed container first. :P Well it did get the job done at least. I don't recall exactly how long he put them in for. I hope it wasn't more then 6 or so seconds. Especially since it's one of those large windowless industrial microwaves so probably cooked things way faster then the ones you typically have in your house kitchen. Could probably destroy CDs in less then a couple seconds in there. Any longer and would probably start melting the plastic. :P
@@MagnumForce51 I believe it can also destroy the microwave if you are not careful. Lucky to not break the microwave, those industrial ones can be really expensive
@@AaronOfMpls for the same reason i miss VHS promo tapes from Nintendo back in 1997 and 1998 around christmas. My best buddy and I took a few and used them as tapes to record our self-recorded shortfilm projects. It was suuuuch a big help because we had no money for blank VHS tapes.
damn they used to push those under our doors in the early 2000s still, I remember seeing some AOL 2.0 to who knows, 5.0? They would push another version CD all the time there.
@@Kalvinjj More like 9.0, and yah, they did keep going for a while. (No sale from my family though. We went from Prodigy to a local dial-up ISP to broadband from our cable co.)
@@KRAFTWERK2K6 "BuzzFeed News" is actually a separate entity from "BuzzFeed" itself, and "BuzzFeed News" actually had won several journalism award, and several times became Pulitzer Prize finalists, thanks to its investigative journalism.
@@Revengilate it'd be cool, but consoles need to be able to withstand households that may own them... as a former menace to society myself, can already picture multiple ways kids would fiddle with and demolish it LOL
What are the chances someone learns something new on the same day they watched a video that mentioned that thing they didn't know? All kidding aside I wanted to add there's huge industrial shredders that work on the same concept as paper shredders.
@@RJDA.Dakota have you seen one? They're pre-sectored, so they're all covered in dots in a pattern. In fact, I now wonder if Matsushita or whoever else used "The Claw" to make them in the first place.
@@igorszamaszow171 I still have a couple of them. They came with my Panasonic DVD Recorder. They are very unique in their own way. I don’t think that they are manufactured anymore.
@@RJDA.Dakota yes, I think they stopped production a couple of years ago. My family owned a DVD recorder as well in the early 2000s, and we used them for timeshifting on a pretty much daily basis. I think we had three DVD RAMs, maybe four, one came bundled with our recorder as well. They were never all that widespread even back in the day: I didn't know anyone else personally who used one of those. I always thought that cartridge was a neat idea.
@@igorszamaszow171 We had them for the HMCs (Hardware Management Console) that controlled our IBM pSeries systems. Of course, being a development group, we usually didn't keep a configuration active long enough to use one.
My sister used to play the same music on repeat so I would put it in the microwave for 2 seconds, the microwave would damage the disc enough not to play with no visible damage.
id love to see you collab with a data recovery service to see how much data can be recvored from different kind of disks (cd/dvd/bluray) as well as how much itll change dependign on how many times the claw had its way with the disc
“What happened to the old lost media, that everybody was desperately searching for throughout the internet?“ *THE CLAW!* *THE CLAW!* is the new Sanyo CD/DVD Media Destroyer, designed to *destroy all history of humanity’s art, literature, games, music, videos, recordings, everything we made as we know it*
nice try NSA. Redundancy check and checksum of various files can bring back data. a square centimetre contains about 2Mb of data that will be retrieved. just burn your data discs.
Honestly, this is the sort of thing that's only useful if you're planning on destroying a LOT of disks in a relatively short amount of time, since it's not difficult to destroy a disk yourself.
Probably aimed at IT departments that needed to destroy backup discs? Although you'd think any company producing that volume of data on a regular basis would be using tapes.
@@n3gi_ Only if you're using your hands. Use a screwdriver, or a pair of scissors. That's the point. You don't need a fancy device to destroy a CD. This device is only useful if you're destroying a LOT of disks in a short amount of time, and doing it often.
That left the label side of the discs disturbingly intact, and I believe DVDs have an extra layer of plastic on the label side for additional protection. I would be very interested to see you take a disc destroyed with that and then run it through a buffer refinisher repair tool and see if it is still readable once the bottom is buffed back to a mostly scratchless or minimally deep scratch surface.
It does what it says it does. Most surely sold to offices that needed somewhat big file sharing for some time but needed it to be sure they're destroyed afterwards. As you said, many paper shredders started to include CD destroyers, so it became obsolete, but you have to aplaud they use teeth to puncture instead of shredding
I forgot I ever commented that or watched this video. It just popped back up on my feed and I came to the comments to type the same thing I wrote 2 years ago.
The thing is this has the same issue as hard drive destruction. If you want to fully delete data, in this day and age, you have to turn the data storage medium into a fine powder.
Not really. Hard drives can be overwritten during a data wipe, completely destroying all data (not just the table of contents, which is what happens when you usually delete a file). SSDs are likely the same way, so are flash drives. It's really only the non rewritable mediums like CDs that need to be destroyed.
@@richardmillhousenixon This is far quicker to just destroy it though, and while it's good enough for home use some information can still remain on the disk due to bad sectors and such.
@@Yemto It really can't, not on modern drives. This was potentially true on the really old drives that could only store a couple kilobytes or so, because the data was spread out enough that overwriting a sector may still leave ghost images "between the lines" so to speak. With modern drives being as data-dense as they are, recovering data after even one single overwrite is nigh on impossible, simply due to the fact that you can't recover data from the negative space when there is no negative space. One overwrite is enough, two if you're extremely paranoid. This is straight from Peter Gutmann himself, the very person who initially put forward the theoretical attack to recover data from a once-overwritten drive back in 1996.
@@volundrfrey896 I deleted my last comment because I forgot we were talking about hard drives. The problem of a bad sector holding on to data is really only true for a solid state drive, where the drive itself will "block off" that sector to prevent corruption. Any good disk utility will ignore the presence of bad sectors on a hard disk. That is to say they will still write over them as if they aren't there.
Interesting that the French product name on the label is more accurate ("rayeur de disque CD/DVD") 1:42. A "rayeur" could be a device that creates scratches = rayures. Seems more fitting since the discs aren't fully destroyed, just damaged beyond usefulness.
When we were kids, my youngest sister would put two discs on the floor and skate around on them. Arguably a more effective way to destroy discs, but this was a cool, little piece of technology anyway. Thanks for sharing!
Beats the neighbors I had who would never use DVD cases for their PS2 games... All scratched up, stored bare on fireplace tiles.... I was amazed at how their PS2 was able to read the discs!
@@Ckoz2829The PS2 could probably read cave paintings to be fair, that thing was insane in how well it could read damaged disks. Meanwhile you get the OG Xbox that would spit a disk out if you even looked at it wrong
@@bryanstevens5901 i think there might be machines that can do partial data retrivals or something, at least with that you know damn well nowhere for them to extract from and it only takes seconds
Keys and the like (and even cutting a CD in two) created these tiny flakes of the writable layer of material that got into everything. (DVD's were better about it, but still created a mess.) If you were going to destroy hundreds of discs, a machine likes this was the way to go.
2:40 --WHAT!!! That's crazy. I've always assumed the labeled side was the 'form' and the gray side was 'function'...-- I recently borrowed a DVD of Back to the Future from the library and it had a sticker on it (barcode + college name + sorting info) and my girlfriend was a bit surprised that they'd put a sticker there. Edit: looked some stuff up and CDs do in fact store their data on the gray side. (DVDs are different in that the data layers are sandwiched between "polycarbonate substrate" on both sides.) Although; since all the layers would be glued/ connected to each other; it still makes sense that peeling off a sticker on one side would tear off some parts 'below' it and break the disk like w yours. You can even see how the gray part on that spot was peeled off along w the sticker.
Honestly, content creators on YT have greater credibility because they have their reputation on the line. Not to mention, the YT community tends to be very unforgiving if a content creator's foolishness is proven to be true.
I'm assuming that they thought of this when they designed "The Claw," but I have to wonder if a disc repair machine would still be able to get things readable again after the disc was "destroyed".
@@PickupsAreNotTrucks As someone who has actually operated such a machine hundreds of times, I can say that they most definitely do work, to an extent.
Sanyo is one of my favourite lower-cost-than-Sony brands. The other one is Aiwa. Both made some of the coolest looking electronics. Thank you for sharing this.
I recently bought a Sanyo 8 Track Deck on ebay. This thing was made well. Sayno RD-8020A - check at the pictures on Google. Sounds great for an 8 track player.
You know, if that Emerson CD player was a higher end unit, it probably wouldn't have that little bit of "drop back" when the mechanism reached its opening limit.
This is an interesting video on a really odd but interesting device. It would be nifty to find out if the CD can possibly again be readable after passing through a professional-grade disc resurfacer. A place I worked at years ago had one made by a company called RTI and it was incredibly effective. It brought back some pretty badly mangled discs.
Thing is, this unit actually physically damages both the laser viewing layer (bottom) and the data layer (top) including the reflective material. It doesn't scratch the CD as much as it actually makes impressions into the plastic from both sides using the sharp gear teeth. This renders any sort of polishing useless as that does not fix the data layer that was also damaged. Not to mention distorting the plastic shape of the disc. (as was demonstrated) As long as the tension of the gearing and the sharpness of the gears the disc was put through remained constant, this thing would ruin your disk permanently every time. Obviously running the disk multiple times through it makes it even more certain. Anytime I wanted to destroy a CD, it was always the label side that I would damage, often a few hard gouging scratches across the reflective layer is all it takes. Make a big X then follow that up with a # with the hole of the CD in the center of it. Cheap CDs the reflective coating would flake off even when doing it.
@@DTMAce I would think that with a few buffs, a DVD would be entirely readable. Where a CD has that top layer which is easily damaged, a DVD's info is sandwiched between 2 plastic layers. If the disc was warped like it was in the video after a few shreds then it might be unreadable, but just the scratches can be buffed.
@@samd7293 I don't think you get what I mean. These have "teeth". The marks you see aren't scratches. They are impressions INTO the plastic. And yes, into the data layer. This unit was built to destroy these types of discs. I'm not even sure DVDs were around yet when this came out, but depending on the type of DVD you can bet they would be destroyed as well. (dual-sided and dual-layer MIGHT have a more resistant data layer) And it would take a hell of a lot of material removal to polish out teeth dents. Again, this is all entirely dependent on the tension of the wheels and the sharpness of their edges as to how much actual damage they could do. The reason the disc warps after going through these is because the plastic gets deformed by the dents from the teeth. The more times you stick it through, the more the disc is deformed and the more it warps out of shape as its literally being stretched out like being rolled with a rolling pin. But with teeth.
Plextor PlexEraser PX-0E100E was an external CD drive 'Overburner' that recorded over media with a powerful laser, CD tray was bright orange to differentiate from a normal CD burner.
I worked for a company back in 2002 that was in the same building as Sanyo. We did computer game packaging for them every once in a while. We used this machine(or one like it?) to "destroy" discs that were damaged/not sell-able.
Early CD’s had an additional layer of plastic over the pressed part that offered much better protection, you can tell as they are notably thicker. It would also be interesting to see if you have a player that you can get the disc out without ejecting it or removing the power, do the following. Run a known disc through the claw once. Burn another CD with a single track that covers the full time period of the disc. Put the disc in the player so the TOC (table of contents) is read. Remove the disc so the player still the player does not know it’s been removed, put the damaged disc in, press play. I suspect it will still play the disc, though it may jump a little. You could also try the same with files. A CD players built in error correction means a lot of what you hear is already made up by the player during normal playback.
Do the scratches go deep enough to permanently damage a DVD+R (which has the metal layer sandwiched between 2 plastic layers)? If not, it may be possible to polish a destroyed DVD+R back to life.
@@Brainsore.did you read the comment? DVD+R has the metal data sandwiched between two plastic layers (vs a CD, where the data layer is at the “label”). The plastic surface can be fixed, the data, less so.
0:27 i absolutely hated to watch this video back then. I wanted to get Vista as soon it was released and watched many videos about in on RUclips (Longhorn builds) .. Good old times :D
You'd probably need some filler in addition to polishing, otherwise you'd need to remove practically all the material. But besides that, I was thinking the same thing. It really depends on how deep the scratches are. But I suppose if the data section actually gets penetrated the impacted area will be small, possibly enough for the ECC to handle.
^ Yeah. The disc substrate has to be at least a certain thickness for the laser to focus properly, so you would probably need to fill as well as polish. I've never actually heard of filling a plastic disc, at least to a high enough degree that it is still optically transparent. Is that a thing?
Yep, especially with me who bought an Acer* laptop back in the day because they actually wanted Windows Vista, and had actually watched the full video (IIRC, it was titled something like "Windows Vista install in 5 mins" (EDIT: I was wrong, the original video is linked in the description)). I believe Vista was mostly hated because the Windows XP hardware a lot of these people had couldn't handle it, the manufacturers didn't offer updated drivers for Vista, and/or didn't offer 64-bit drivers, and Microsoft probably artificially lowered the system requirements to get OEMs to ship it instead of XP. I remember the aforementioned laptop was an Acer Aspire 5050 that had a ton of bloatware and only 768 MB of RAM out of the box, so as you could imagine, the experience wasn't very good until I upgraded the RAM. I have an old desktop PC that would've had relatively high-end hardware for Vista, which in turn is on the list of potential OSes I want to install across different hard drives onto that. *If I had my current mindset back then, I would've bought a Lenovo ThinkPad X series tablet instead.
@@kbhasi Yup similar thing with my old man's HP pavilion entertainment notebook back in the day. Every time I used it I wanted to HULK smash the dang thing. Was so glad when he upgraded it to Windows 7.
Yup well you still could not really reach them anyway once the reflective layer is damaged which makes it impossible for the disc drive to read the TOC of the disc properly.
@@KRAFTWERK2K6 Except DVDs (and blu rays) are sandwiched in polycarbonate. You could just resurface the plastic to access the data again. Even if it warped the disc a bit you could still read the data with a microscope to recover it.
I used to work I a certain company with a branch in México, one our branch got shut down by the government, our manager told us to burn anything relating to our activities, CDs, hdds, complete filing cabinets, everything that was one way or another related to company activities was to be burned, took an entire day to finish
Imagine someone accidentally putting a valuable CD into this, thinking it was a CD player.
Even more so because I believe Sanyo made mini component systems and boomboxes which had built-in audio CD players. Oh my.
"Where can i play this whiney voice autotuned modern music"
Me: i think this is the cd player over here "brah".
I can predict what will happen next then (or pretty much everyone tbh)
@@surrodox How would I not predict what happens next?
"hmm i wonder why this cd player has no speakers or line outputs? and why it says 'cd destroyer' on it? ehh let's put a cd in, what could go wrong?"
No way, they turned younger siblings into a machine. Technology truly is incredible.
Another job lost to automation.
NOOO I DONT WANT TO BECOME A CD DESTROYER AAAAAAAAAAAA *gets turned into cd destroyer*
they took my job 😔
Younger siblings are now obsolete
My little brother always loved destroying old CDs. I’d give him a few failed burns and he’d do what ever with them (microwaving them had some really cool results )
You have selected Microsoft SAM as this CD's default vooooiiiice.
My childhood before internet.
four SOI
Natural Microsoft Sam's voice, actually.
Obviously for copyright reasons. Also used a speech from the 19th century to make sure it's public domain.
My roflcopter goes soi soi soi soi soi soi soi soi rofl rofl rofl rofl
I know a couple of kids who essentially serve the same function when it comes to most forms of technology, but they do it for completely free.
9 months really aint free
my brother broke a DVD that goes for hundreds or thousands online :(
@@partitionhlep Is it the Popee the Maniax dvd?
At work, I've seen the shredders that handle hard drives. Those are impressive.
Those are scary
@@serraramayfield9230i have a friend who thinks wolverine sized nails are a fantastic idea and every time she uses a shredder I get PTSD. Now learning hard drive shredders exist I'm getting even more worried 😂
I've worked with and on those machines, genuinely fun i tell you
Well I got handed a drill and a big box of old drives by the IT guy once and was just told to "have fun"
@@PapaLurts based
Playstation 2 Slim: "Finally, a worthy opponent!"
@Corat Yeah me too, soon as i got a Fat model, my discs stopped getting destroyed
Or a Xbox 360
@Corat Wait, which models ? I just bought a PS2 Slim...
I never had my CDs destroyed by my PS2 slim. Is it only on specific models of the slim?
Xbox 360: "Not on my watch!"
My sense of humor is so ruined I absolutely died when I saw the Microsoft Sam Gettysburg Address CD
RIP in peace
Rolfcopter soisoisoisoisoi
I started laughing when I saw the Visa CD.
@@JonatasAdoM looks like Anthony took his hatred towards Windows Vista on a whole new level.
@@HBC101TVStudios - TRULY _inspiring_ !!
Quite amazed people had enough discs in their life that they needed an arbitary device to destroy them. I'm guessing this was more for offices, rather than home use?
Ya, though most used actual shredders.
This was just for fast deleting of evidence :D
It's not up to department of defense standards for destroying media though.
@@fruitezxd Problem is so long as some of the bits survive the process them some of the evidence might still be recoverable by law enforcement. You'd be surprised what they can recover.
Larry! Just been watching you on GamesWorld, you've always been a showman!
And you can put it in multiple times.
CD: "Oh god, stop! Not again! AHHHHHHHHHH!"
"Four soi and seven years ago" got me pretty good lol
Someone needs to edit in the Law & Order sound effect every time you read "THE CLAW!".
Sylvester Stallone is... Judge Shredd. "I AM..... THE CLAW!!"
someone should edit those aliens from toystory in lmao
or Jimmy Carrey`s character in Liar, liar
Claw & Order: Shredding Video Unit
I work in healthcare, specifically Radiology/Medical imaging, and we make a TON of CDs for patients/doctors/lawyers etc. While watching this video at first I thought "Oh my goodness, this is so cool and useful!" At a previous job, we paid a company to take away our discard CDs. At the job I'm at now, we have a super noisy shredder that destroys the CDs, creating plastic shrapnel in the process. As I watched the video, I realized that this product wouldn't help us at all, as it doesn't do anything to destroy anything written on the CD. Our CD burning robot prints a label with the patient's name directly on the CD (using a thermal printer). Cool product, but useless for my needs.
You could try one of those abrasive CD repair machines that normally polishes the other side but instead you could use it label side to quickly sand away that top layer, label and foil (data).
Microwaves will instantly destroy CDs and DVDs, and even flash media!
@@Shaker626 I think OSHA would probably kill me if I asked my employees to microwave plastic on the regular.
@@timmy530 That is true though, can't have someone microwaving their lunch in there right after. Imagine the OSHA inspector seeing that!
Maybe the company should invest in rewritables and label the box they're in.
This actually solved part of a mystery for me.
This has to be where alot of people stored their Playstation discs in the 90s.
In this, and as coasters, frisbees and gravelpile flatening devices.
Reminds me a friend of mine that had a PS1 game CD, pirate at that of course, that looked like a freaking moon surface shot, if you held it against a light it looked like a starry sky.
I have no clue how the PS1 still ran that crap.
@@Kalvinjj PS1 had pretty amazing error correction.
Usually that stuff got stored as bare CDs, no cases, just stacked up on top of each other, treated like dirty socks or something. This is why some people have only bad experiences with things that they buy.
@@Kalvinjj Maybe that is part of the reason why some people, more than other peoples laser quit working too, since it worked overtime reading through those discs..
@Jared Maddox Yeah, that`s absolutely not how to store a disc, I do not understand why people do not care about their stuff at all. I have seen discs soo scratched that I do not understand how it is possible, unless it happened on purpose.
And this goes to not just CDs, but cars, apartments, and everything in-between. Some people just destroy stuff, they are like living CLAWS.
What are these flattening devices you speak of?
Imagine being old and mistaking this for a CD reader
I've always just popped them in the microwave for a couple of seconds. Completely fries the metallic layer, and it's cool to watch too.
Nice, I just put them in the toaster
video plz
that is how we did it in the military for sensitive material, even had a microwave just for CD's
In the Army, while working in G3 planning shops we used to render CDs unusable by putting them into a microwave for a few seconds. Once the fireworks are over with, the CD is unreadable by anything.
yup, quickest way to destroy the reflective coating and melting the pits and lands.
2 second full blast microwave
I used to work at Mc Donalds back in 2008. I was a frycook and occasionally they'd have me flipping the burger meats. One day a coworker had a large stack of CDs/DVDs he needed to destroy and he asked around about it. I told him 5 seconds in the mircrowave was the fastest way to do it since they have a metal reflective coading that the microwave will easily destroy. So that's what he did. put the whole stack in the microwave. ... The one we use for things line cinnabuns and hotcakes...
Looking back it was probably not the best idea to do that in the same microwave used to cook food. Should have put them in a sealed container first. :P
Well it did get the job done at least. I don't recall exactly how long he put them in for. I hope it wasn't more then 6 or so seconds. Especially since it's one of those large windowless industrial microwaves so probably cooked things way faster then the ones you typically have in your house kitchen. Could probably destroy CDs in less then a couple seconds in there. Any longer and would probably start melting the plastic. :P
@@MagnumForce51 Is that not the most suspicious thing on Earth? "Hey man, I *need* to destroy this stack of CD's."
@@MagnumForce51 I believe it can also destroy the microwave if you are not careful. Lucky to not break the microwave, those industrial ones can be really expensive
In 1996, our first child's baby stroller was adorned with those very much available AOL discs as "hub caps". :)
Heh, glad you had a use for them!
I do remember being bummed when AOL switched from floppies to CDs. No more free blank disks...
You brought back a long forgotten memory there, AOL CD ROMS!
@@AaronOfMpls for the same reason i miss VHS promo tapes from Nintendo back in 1997 and 1998 around christmas. My best buddy and I took a few and used them as tapes to record our self-recorded shortfilm projects. It was suuuuch a big help because we had no money for blank VHS tapes.
damn they used to push those under our doors in the early 2000s still, I remember seeing some AOL 2.0 to who knows, 5.0? They would push another version CD all the time there.
@@Kalvinjj More like 9.0, and yah, they did keep going for a while.
(No sale from my family though. We went from Prodigy to a local dial-up ISP to broadband from our cable co.)
"It tends to get warped and flip floppy if you do it multiple times" *puts the disc in a third time immediately.
without a word, that' the part that got me
Satisfying.
Then cuts disc in half with scissors.
Sry had to be certain it was officially done!
I love that you had an old CD of Microsoft Sam reading the Gettysburg Address lying around to test this
ohhh, i remember seeing cds in the past when dumpster diving that bmhad that scratch pattern, i always thought it was odd. now i know!
"experts on reddit" that line just make me explode laughing
LOL i know, right? It's just as funny as calling "Buzzfeed" news :D
@@KRAFTWERK2K6 g
More like Vinyl Eyezz 🤣🤣🤣
There... are actual experts who happen to use reddit. Chill.
@@KRAFTWERK2K6 "BuzzFeed News" is actually a separate entity from "BuzzFeed" itself, and "BuzzFeed News" actually had won several journalism award, and several times became Pulitzer Prize finalists, thanks to its investigative journalism.
4:55 That's a really cool opening mechanism.
Wonder why they never used this as a feature to a console
@@Revengilate too expensive and likely to break
@@St_Rizla ah
@@Revengilate it'd be cool, but consoles need to be able to withstand households that may own them... as a former menace to society myself, can already picture multiple ways kids would fiddle with and demolish it LOL
@@sonozaki0000 Lol haha
The way they keep going on about THE CLAW!! reminds me of toy story and the little green aliens lmao
THE CLAAAAAAAAAW
Oh my god! That would've been funny if that was used in the video. xD
"Ooooooooooooooooooooooohhhh..."
I'm legitimately so glad you ran it through multiple times because I was worried I'd go crazy if you didn't.
He lost me at "Microsoft Sam reading the Gettysburg Address"
Only VWestlife could make a video about scratching a CD interesting and worth watching.
You have obviously never watched any of Techmoan's videos.
Alternate title: The claw chooses who will go and who will stay.
is it beware the savage claw?
A stranger.
From the outside.
Oooooohhhhhhhh!
TIL that some paper shredders have slots for Cds and Dvds
He already mentioned that in this video
@@JackMcSomeone I K N O W
@@JackMcSomeone TIL means "today I learned" you spedass headass
What are the chances someone learns something new on the same day they watched a video that mentioned that thing they didn't know?
All kidding aside I wanted to add there's huge industrial shredders that work on the same concept as paper shredders.
I’ve never shredded a CD but I have shredded a few credit cards through mine
Yeah, best to just get a paper shredder. More than one use in one machine then.
It need to be CD rated however, else you will damage it.
@@thephantom1492 Yes... I know...
Or you can just use an Xbox 360
or a foam backed 80-Grit sanding block from the hardware store , $3 and 15 seconds of
applied elbow grease 👍😀👍 !
I wish I would’ve found this channel a long time ago. Your content is top-notch and extremely entertaining.
Sings: "I fought the Claw, but the Claw won! I fought the Claw! But the Claw won..!"
My friend kept lettin the same Disc Run, so i threw it in the claw and, the Claw won!
The Clash. In the 1970s they were already in the right direction.
@@leonzantvoort6201 that actually wasn't a Clash song if I remember correctly, but their cover was the most awesome version
Also, discs after the procedure look suspiciously like DVD-RAMs, which is quite funny
Why when the DVD-RAM is a multi recording device. 🤣
@@RJDA.Dakota have you seen one? They're pre-sectored, so they're all covered in dots in a pattern. In fact, I now wonder if Matsushita or whoever else used "The Claw" to make them in the first place.
@@igorszamaszow171 I still have a couple of them. They came with my Panasonic DVD Recorder. They are very unique in their own way. I don’t think that they are manufactured anymore.
@@RJDA.Dakota yes, I think they stopped production a couple of years ago. My family owned a DVD recorder as well in the early 2000s, and we used them for timeshifting on a pretty much daily basis. I think we had three DVD RAMs, maybe four, one came bundled with our recorder as well. They were never all that widespread even back in the day: I didn't know anyone else personally who used one of those. I always thought that cartridge was a neat idea.
@@igorszamaszow171 We had them for the HMCs (Hardware Management Console) that controlled our IBM pSeries systems. Of course, being a development group, we usually didn't keep a configuration active long enough to use one.
My sister used to play the same music on repeat so I would put it in the microwave for 2 seconds, the microwave would damage the disc enough not to play with no visible damage.
You menace
It was CD-R or pressd cd ?
@@Baoslaw Doesn't matter. The metal layer get destroyed.
I used to do that with broken CDs. It made lots of “lightning”!
You should go out and buy your sister those CDs that you messed up back then lol.
id love to see you collab with a data recovery service to see how much data can be recvored from different kind of disks (cd/dvd/bluray) as well as how much itll change dependign on how many times the claw had its way with the disc
Now THAT would be one EXCELLENT Vid !!
@@chuckintexas ditto needs to be done for sure
“What happened to the old lost media, that everybody was desperately searching for throughout the internet?“
*THE CLAW!*
*THE CLAW!* is the new Sanyo CD/DVD Media Destroyer, designed to *destroy all history of humanity’s art, literature, games, music, videos, recordings, everything we made as we know it*
Hahaha. :')
But, made by Antifa!
@@dennisneo1608what
That cd player was so cool! The way it open....
I had one, and it was so fucking cool. Hahah.
@@Red_Eyedwhere did you get it
@@rocky_1904 Target. Early 2000s. Hahah.
Me watching how he runs the cd through The Claw multiple times: STOP IT, HE'S ALREADY DEAD!
_B r u t a l i t y ._
nice try NSA.
Redundancy check and checksum of various files can bring back data.
a square centimetre contains about 2Mb of data that will be retrieved.
just burn your data discs.
Honestly, this is the sort of thing that's only useful if you're planning on destroying a LOT of disks in a relatively short amount of time, since it's not difficult to destroy a disk yourself.
Probably aimed at IT departments that needed to destroy backup discs? Although you'd think any company producing that volume of data on a regular basis would be using tapes.
You could hurt yourself trying to destroy a cd. Once I broke a dvd with my hands and it cut my finger pretty deep.
@@n3gi_ Only if you're using your hands. Use a screwdriver, or a pair of scissors. That's the point. You don't need a fancy device to destroy a CD. This device is only useful if you're destroying a LOT of disks in a short amount of time, and doing it often.
I think it’s only useful if you’re planning on destroying a LOT of disks in a relatively short amount of time.
i have roughly 40000 discs that i have to destroy or im going to jail
That left the label side of the discs disturbingly intact, and I believe DVDs have an extra layer of plastic on the label side for additional protection. I would be very interested to see you take a disc destroyed with that and then run it through a buffer refinisher repair tool and see if it is still readable once the bottom is buffed back to a mostly scratchless or minimally deep scratch surface.
It does what it says it does. Most surely sold to offices that needed somewhat big file sharing for some time but needed it to be sure they're destroyed afterwards. As you said, many paper shredders started to include CD destroyers, so it became obsolete, but you have to aplaud they use teeth to puncture instead of shredding
Out of all places, I would have never expected to see an old clip of Anthony Cumia here. Good on ya for digging that up.
I forgot I ever commented that or watched this video. It just popped back up on my feed and I came to the comments to type the same thing I wrote 2 years ago.
Wow I can finally give my ps2 slim a break with destroying cd’s now
Oh the Windows Vista "installation" video, the memories
Good ole Anthony Cumia during his heyday
That write up at the end gave me used car dealership commercial vibes. All that's missing is a booming voice repeatedly saying "THE CLAW!"
I don't know how I got here, but once I started watching I couldn't stop.
The thing is this has the same issue as hard drive destruction. If you want to fully delete data, in this day and age, you have to turn the data storage medium into a fine powder.
Not really. Hard drives can be overwritten during a data wipe, completely destroying all data (not just the table of contents, which is what happens when you usually delete a file). SSDs are likely the same way, so are flash drives. It's really only the non rewritable mediums like CDs that need to be destroyed.
@@richardmillhousenixon This is far quicker to just destroy it though, and while it's good enough for home use some information can still remain on the disk due to bad sectors and such.
@@Yemto It really can't, not on modern drives. This was potentially true on the really old drives that could only store a couple kilobytes or so, because the data was spread out enough that overwriting a sector may still leave ghost images "between the lines" so to speak. With modern drives being as data-dense as they are, recovering data after even one single overwrite is nigh on impossible, simply due to the fact that you can't recover data from the negative space when there is no negative space. One overwrite is enough, two if you're extremely paranoid. This is straight from Peter Gutmann himself, the very person who initially put forward the theoretical attack to recover data from a once-overwritten drive back in 1996.
@@volundrfrey896 I deleted my last comment because I forgot we were talking about hard drives. The problem of a bad sector holding on to data is really only true for a solid state drive, where the drive itself will "block off" that sector to prevent corruption. Any good disk utility will ignore the presence of bad sectors on a hard disk. That is to say they will still write over them as if they aren't there.
Nope, zero fill a disk and data is gone forever.
Interesting that the French product name on the label is more accurate ("rayeur de disque CD/DVD") 1:42. A "rayeur" could be a device that creates scratches = rayures. Seems more fitting since the discs aren't fully destroyed, just damaged beyond usefulness.
Yes indeed, it should be labelled "Disc scratcher"
I don't know why but Justin Bieber on cassette sounds like an urban treasure artifact X'D
Don't you mean curse?
I remember having to walk down to my local blockbuster to use their disc repair machine for a $5 fee to hopefully repair a disc that had been scuffed
That dig on record player experts was superb. Thank you
Vwestlife tackles CD-ROM-era oddware? INSTANT LIKE
When we were kids, my youngest sister would put two discs on the floor and skate around on them. Arguably a more effective way to destroy discs, but this was a cool, little piece of technology anyway. Thanks for sharing!
Beats the neighbors I had who would never use DVD cases for their PS2 games... All scratched up, stored bare on fireplace tiles.... I was amazed at how their PS2 was able to read the discs!
@@Poodleinacan
Their PS2 could probably read hieroglyphics.
@@Ckoz2829The PS2 could probably read cave paintings to be fair, that thing was insane in how well it could read damaged disks. Meanwhile you get the OG Xbox that would spit a disk out if you even looked at it wrong
that moment when you realize you could've just used a key or something sharp instead of buying s cd shredder
Much smart.
@@bryanstevens5901 i think there might be machines that can do partial data retrivals or something, at least with that you know damn well nowhere for them to extract from and it only takes seconds
Keys and the like (and even cutting a CD in two) created these tiny flakes of the writable layer of material that got into everything. (DVD's were better about it, but still created a mess.)
If you were going to destroy hundreds of discs, a machine likes this was the way to go.
Someone knows what's ups
Fire will do the trick
2:40 --WHAT!!! That's crazy. I've always assumed the labeled side was the 'form' and the gray side was 'function'...--
I recently borrowed a DVD of Back to the Future from the library and it had a sticker on it (barcode + college name + sorting info) and my girlfriend was a bit surprised that they'd put a sticker there.
Edit: looked some stuff up and CDs do in fact store their data on the gray side. (DVDs are different in that the data layers are sandwiched between "polycarbonate substrate" on both sides.) Although; since all the layers would be glued/ connected to each other; it still makes sense that peeling off a sticker on one side would tear off some parts 'below' it and break the disk like w yours. You can even see how the gray part on that spot was peeled off along w the sticker.
2:13 I have no clue anything about this channel but that joke alone made me subscribe
Honestly, content creators on YT have greater credibility because they have their reputation on the line.
Not to mention, the YT community tends to be very unforgiving if a content creator's foolishness is proven to be true.
No kidding! Have you seen how Dream’s been (perhaps rightfully) treated lately?
RUclips has more credibility than Hollywood!
That windows vista installation video was a trip down memory lane that I never wanted to retake. Thanks.
I definitely wasn't expecting to see Anthony Groomia's face in this video
"The police hate this device, find out why!!!" :P
Huh, didn't expect to see Anthony Cumia in the first minute of this video
I'm willing to bet this thing has kept many "Experts on Reddit" out of prison...
The NSYNC Christmas CD inside The Claw is great advertising for this product! Lol😂
The good old Windows Vista installation guide. One of the first internet videos I've seen.
The first thing I saw from Anthony Cumia before being introduced to the Opie and Anthony show later on.
I wish Windows 10 had those beautiful aesthetics though. Instead of aero theme, it's gray and grainy theme.
I'm assuming that they thought of this when they designed "The Claw," but I have to wonder if a disc repair machine would still be able to get things readable again after the disc was "destroyed".
Those disk repair machines didn’t work on decent CDs, let alone shredded ones like this. Lol
@@PickupsAreNotTrucks As someone who has actually operated such a machine hundreds of times, I can say that they most definitely do work, to an extent.
Imagine Microsoft Sam had started to say "Don't do that, Dave" before you put it into the claw
YIKES !!
"FourSOI and seven years ago..."
Who knew that scratching CDs could be so much fun?!
Sanyo is one of my favourite lower-cost-than-Sony brands. The other one is Aiwa. Both made some of the coolest looking electronics. Thank you for sharing this.
I recently bought a Sanyo 8 Track Deck on ebay. This thing was made well. Sayno RD-8020A - check at the pictures on Google. Sounds great for an 8 track player.
I bought a sanyo 24 inch crt tv in 2005, it broke in 3 years. What a pos.
@@bookshelffury That could have happened with any One unit of any one brand.
I used CD’s until I was 16 and then discovered the digital world, lol. What an amazing machine! This is so interesting!
But CDs are digital.
"What is my purpose?"
"You destroy CDs"
"Oh my god!"
You know, if that Emerson CD player was a higher end unit, it probably wouldn't have that little bit of "drop back" when the mechanism reached its opening limit.
You sound like the type of man who knows a thing or two about luxury CD players.... I like that.
True, but still looks so freaking awesome.
80s to early 2000s definitely had the coolest gear.
This is an interesting video on a really odd but interesting device. It would be nifty to find out if the CD can possibly again be readable after passing through a professional-grade disc resurfacer. A place I worked at years ago had one made by a company called RTI and it was incredibly effective. It brought back some pretty badly mangled discs.
The NSA or CIA could easily ready the intact data layer on these discs. Do not trust this machine to "destroy" your discs.
That’s why you put it back in about 5 more times.
Thing is, this unit actually physically damages both the laser viewing layer (bottom) and the data layer (top) including the reflective material. It doesn't scratch the CD as much as it actually makes impressions into the plastic from both sides using the sharp gear teeth. This renders any sort of polishing useless as that does not fix the data layer that was also damaged. Not to mention distorting the plastic shape of the disc. (as was demonstrated) As long as the tension of the gearing and the sharpness of the gears the disc was put through remained constant, this thing would ruin your disk permanently every time. Obviously running the disk multiple times through it makes it even more certain.
Anytime I wanted to destroy a CD, it was always the label side that I would damage, often a few hard gouging scratches across the reflective layer is all it takes. Make a big X then follow that up with a # with the hole of the CD in the center of it. Cheap CDs the reflective coating would flake off even when doing it.
@@DTMAce I would think that with a few buffs, a DVD would be entirely readable. Where a CD has that top layer which is easily damaged, a DVD's info is sandwiched between 2 plastic layers. If the disc was warped like it was in the video after a few shreds then it might be unreadable, but just the scratches can be buffed.
@@samd7293 I don't think you get what I mean. These have "teeth". The marks you see aren't scratches. They are impressions INTO the plastic. And yes, into the data layer. This unit was built to destroy these types of discs. I'm not even sure DVDs were around yet when this came out, but depending on the type of DVD you can bet they would be destroyed as well. (dual-sided and dual-layer MIGHT have a more resistant data layer)
And it would take a hell of a lot of material removal to polish out teeth dents. Again, this is all entirely dependent on the tension of the wheels and the sharpness of their edges as to how much actual damage they could do. The reason the disc warps after going through these is because the plastic gets deformed by the dents from the teeth. The more times you stick it through, the more the disc is deformed and the more it warps out of shape as its literally being stretched out like being rolled with a rolling pin. But with teeth.
Never thought about top of CD being needed. Makes perfect sense now. Thanks
The same here- I always thought it was the shiny side that shouldn't be scratched. People used to write on painted side.
The description of the device in a nutshell: "THE CLAW"
The big takeaway from this video is that I really want that CD player. That's fucking awesome.
When I'd make "coaters", My "disposal method" was to use them as as targets. (airgun and .22LR).
@@fadate7292 This is what happens when I write these on my phone.🙂 Sadly my kid is an English teacher. 🙄
this video is suggested several times when i'm being linked to bad music.
blessed AI
Fun video, thanks for sharing 👍
BigD Wizzzzzz
@@TechGorilla1987 what's up Tech G?
@@wal Nada, man. Fancy meeting you over here. Hows the McIntosh coming along?
Clout ✅
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@compoundmedia Anthony, what on that disc bro?
Plextor PlexEraser PX-0E100E was an external CD drive 'Overburner' that recorded over media with a powerful laser, CD tray was bright orange to differentiate from a normal CD burner.
I worked for a company back in 2002 that was in the same building as Sanyo. We did computer game packaging for them every once in a while.
We used this machine(or one like it?) to "destroy" discs that were damaged/not sell-able.
Early CD’s had an additional layer of plastic over the pressed part that offered much better protection, you can tell as they are notably thicker.
It would also be interesting to see if you have a player that you can get the disc out without ejecting it or removing the power, do the following. Run a known disc through the claw once. Burn another CD with a single track that covers the full time period of the disc. Put the disc in the player so the TOC (table of contents) is read. Remove the disc so the player still the player does not know it’s been removed, put the damaged disc in, press play. I suspect it will still play the disc, though it may jump a little. You could also try the same with files. A CD players built in error correction means a lot of what you hear is already made up by the player during normal playback.
I like how he just casually has a copy Microsoft Sam reading the Gettysburg address
Found one of these at a yard sale growing up! Was super fun way to get rid of all the failed burns, using them as frisbies was also an option lol
Do the scratches go deep enough to permanently damage a DVD+R (which has the metal layer sandwiched between 2 plastic layers)? If not, it may be possible to polish a destroyed DVD+R back to life.
Did you watch the video? It’s destroyed.
@@Brainsore.did you read the comment?
DVD+R has the metal data sandwiched between two plastic layers (vs a CD, where the data layer is at the “label”).
The plastic surface can be fixed, the data, less so.
I guess you could say you more than Scratched the Surface with this one.
*points at the door*
get out...... xD
_ba-dum-tiss_
0:27 i absolutely hated to watch this video back then. I wanted to get Vista as soon it was released and watched many videos about in on RUclips (Longhorn builds) .. Good old times :D
This video made me realize the last actual legit Windows CD I handled was a Windows 98SE disc. Ever since then I've burned them
I worked in a meat department when I was younger. We had a machine that basically did the same thing to meat. The cube steak machine. Same concept.
Where did you get that CD player alarm clock?
It's the Emerson CKD2330. There are a few on ebay.
I think probably you can still polish DVD after using this machine because in DVD data layer is between two plastic plate.
You'd probably need some filler in addition to polishing, otherwise you'd need to remove practically all the material. But besides that, I was thinking the same thing. It really depends on how deep the scratches are. But I suppose if the data section actually gets penetrated the impacted area will be small, possibly enough for the ECC to handle.
I feel certain that the FBI and the CIA has a way to retrieve a CLAWed disc.
^ Yeah. The disc substrate has to be at least a certain thickness for the laser to focus properly, so you would probably need to fill as well as polish. I've never actually heard of filling a plastic disc, at least to a high enough degree that it is still optically transparent. Is that a thing?
@@nickwallette6201 I think Vaseline or Petroleum Jelly could make it readable once at least
Damn that Windows Vista disc destruction clip gave me a huge flashback. ^^ Wasn't this a viral video back in the day?
That's Anthony Cumia, so weird seeing him in a vwestlife video. I listen to old O&A clips all the time.
Yes, I forgot about it so it was cool to see!
@@Ryan-hk8bx Had no idea it was him till after listening to O&A for years
Me: Carefully handling CDs, DVDs and Blu-rays to not damage them, carefully cleaning secondhand ones.
Sanyo:
I can’t help but to think of the Toy Story aliens when I see the words ‘THE CLAW’
When you say "The Claw!" it makes me think of those 3-eyed aliens in Toy Story.
What model cd player was he using? I like the look of it.
Emerson CKD 2330
@@nine5661 thanks!!!
@@nine5661 featured on the tv show two and a half men
Very cool I've never heard of these devices.
I almost feel bad for that Windows Vista CD lol
Yep, especially with me who bought an Acer* laptop back in the day because they actually wanted Windows Vista, and had actually watched the full video (IIRC, it was titled something like "Windows Vista install in 5 mins" (EDIT: I was wrong, the original video is linked in the description)). I believe Vista was mostly hated because the Windows XP hardware a lot of these people had couldn't handle it, the manufacturers didn't offer updated drivers for Vista, and/or didn't offer 64-bit drivers, and Microsoft probably artificially lowered the system requirements to get OEMs to ship it instead of XP. I remember the aforementioned laptop was an Acer Aspire 5050 that had a ton of bloatware and only 768 MB of RAM out of the box, so as you could imagine, the experience wasn't very good until I upgraded the RAM. I have an old desktop PC that would've had relatively high-end hardware for Vista, which in turn is on the list of potential OSes I want to install across different hard drives onto that.
*If I had my current mindset back then, I would've bought a Lenovo ThinkPad X series tablet instead.
@@kbhasi Yup similar thing with my old man's HP pavilion entertainment notebook back in the day. Every time I used it I wanted to HULK smash the dang thing. Was so glad when he upgraded it to Windows 7.
@@JohnSmith-xq1pz
Yep! My cousin had one, and I remember she threw away the remote control that it came with.
@@kbhasi Lol ours got misplaced for A week and half...
but only almost :P
Ahh, so you have finally found what CEX does to their DVDs before putting them on sale.
I still can't get over the fact you had Microsoft Sam reading the Gettysburg Address burned onto a CD. It's very awesome
Given that some dvds are dual layer, it’s not obvious how surface scratches can truly destroy the inner layer.
Yup well you still could not really reach them anyway once the reflective layer is damaged which makes it impossible for the disc drive to read the TOC of the disc properly.
@@KRAFTWERK2K6 Except DVDs (and blu rays) are sandwiched in polycarbonate. You could just resurface the plastic to access the data again. Even if it warped the disc a bit you could still read the data with a microscope to recover it.
I used to work I a certain company with a branch in México, one our branch got shut down by the government, our manager told us to burn anything relating to our activities, CDs, hdds, complete filing cabinets, everything that was one way or another related to company activities was to be burned, took an entire day to finish
Congrats, you did your part to protect the corrupt.
@@SheepWaveMeByeBye he could have probably sold those documents for a lot but he would be at the bottom of the sea the day after if they found out.