Can you please do some CPU limited (5600 or 12400F or weaker) testing for B580? People are desperate for data after Hardware unboxed and Hardware canucks published their findings on intel driver CPU overhead. Would you be okay with me compiling your average FPS numbers + 1% lows and 0.1% lows into a spreadsheet with full credits given + links to your videos + sharing it on Reddit?
notice how in games where the b580 performs badly (or equal) the usage is always around 90-105w. and in games where the b580 excel it goes up to 120-130w
@@jerrybhai3362 can you explain why is it called overhead? I know it is the dependance on having a really high end cpu to make good use of the gpu but i don't understand the term
@@AdityaSingh-lp5rp indiana jones showed a similar problem and supposedly the drivers were to blame (src: Daniel Owen). Also power cons. lowered with util. in that case
@@martinarguello3014 pc youtubers has already uploaded videos related to this According to them b580 is only performing with expensive CPUs It's not performing well with budget cpus
Can you include games like Control, Kingdom Come Deliverance, Hell Let Loose, etc. cause they were free for a day and many people will play themm in future.
@@anthonydriotes8804 yeah new games are better for benchmarking but I just asked cz I think those games will be more relatable to new gamers who will probably play in a budget setup
I'm using a i7-8700 with my b580. I have a strix z390-e mobo. With rebar off games are unplayable, but with rebar on it is awesome even with a CPU that isn't "compatible"
6:12 Funny enough, Fortnite, an UE5 games with all new features like Nanite, Virtual Shadow Maps, and Lumen, had 100+ FPS than its fellow UE5 games tho- (no offense to Black Myth Wukong, but I hope its engine version will be updated to 5.6 soon)
I have my B580 with a ryzen 7 7700x. Its does ok at 1440p good margin of games are playable over 60fps @ 1440p. Mainly with Xess quality enabled for the UE5 titled games. Some games i have to play at 1080p on my 1440p monitor to get a very good experience but hey thats fine with me
Bro I need a little advice i am upgrading my elitedesk i have thought of i7 4 gen that I get and going with a gt 730 4gb gddr5 any other options or suggestions please
Makes more sense to go with Arc B580 today but here in India, due to heavy taxation & poor distributor channel, they are gonna feel much more pricier than 249 USD. Intel Arc A770 was sold for 30K INR which is 349 USD equivalent.
People are noticing how stuttery the B580 side is, right? Also, using DLSS would provide an even better result for the 3060ti than it already has. How can anyone logically argue the 3060ti is not completely superior? Also also, stop dry humping the higher VRAM, ppl... The wider bus on the 3060ti gives it significantly more efficient VRAM usage, so it can do more with less.
Вы сравниваете новую карту с картой из 2020 года и радуетесь тому что Интел смог?! Нет я не буду ее покупать, так же как и АМД, потому что найдется какая нибудь игра, в которой драйвер не будет нормально работать.
You know the B580 does not win at every game but it's 250.00 compared to 400.00 for the 3060 ti someone is going to tell me i got ti for 200.00 used i only compare new to new.
Quien usa una gpu de gama basica con un procesador i7. Las pruebas que hay NO sirven de nada para la mayoría. Es ilógico tener estas pgu y un i7 o un 9800x3d de esos
i think the b580 could pull ahead quite a bit if you factor in overclocking, in black myth wukong it ran at 100 watts even though being advertised as 190 watt. im no expert but i think its not at its full potential.
people forgetting b580 main achievement to provide 12gb vram at lower price people are ignoring that ray tracing performance of b580 is better at lower price point vulkan is working better with intel arc the only issue with b580 is you have to use 12400f or ryzen 7600 above to actually enjoy its power
12VRAM is irrelevant (with one obvious exception, which is supposed to be fixed in a patch)... The 3060ti has a wider bus width and significantly faster data transfer, which allows it to more efficiently use VRAM; which you notice in the video.
Why dont use DLSS/XeSS or turn down some settings when the game is running like shit(less than 60fps avg), I dont understand the point of showing Native 1440p resolution 40fps when the real player will try to catch at less 60fps, the comparison is allways bad at that point cuz we arent seen how is performing each card in a real situation, ur comparison should be with optimized settings and XeSS/DLSS/FSR quality when the game is running bad and the game has it, and still will be fair cuz both cards are with the same settings. If someone plays less than 60fps, dont use XESS DLSS and dont change graphics settings, BUY A CONSOLE 😅, people seen this videos are searching for a better and real experience for a ARC B580 and RTX 3060TI. This applies to all the benchmarks in youtube.
@@edwardbenchmarks Ok I will do it!! I dont have the card but prolly my benchs will be more accurate than yours 🤣🤣🤣🤣, u do irreal scenarios benchs, is the same as faking the numbers benchs, but I will add FSR XeSS DLSS and probably will be more useful.
With 100% less power usage less than the 3060 Ti, it delivers the same performance if not better. Not to mention with lower temps. This card is a contender to 4060 tbh, and sold at much less price.
@@virginputinmonkey9457 I can buy a 3060 ti for $200 right now, also the B580 only preforms better with a 9800X3D so that kinda defeats the purpose of its entire existence. ALSO THE B580 IS 18 MONTHS NEWER THAN THE 4060 LOL THAT SHIT IS E WASTE
Can you please do some CPU limited (5600 or 12400F or weaker) testing for B580? People are desperate for data after Hardware unboxed and Hardware canucks published their findings on intel driver CPU overhead.
Would you be okay with me compiling your average FPS numbers + 1% lows and 0.1% lows into a spreadsheet with full credits given + links to your videos + sharing it on Reddit?
should test it with a popular budget cpu tho.
Which budget CPU is now popular? Everyone always recommend 7800X3D and while its amazing CPU I wouldnt call it budget lol.
@@Extreme96PLyou didn't understood. the arc card has cpu overhead issue. watch hardware unboxed
@@Extreme96PL its a 250$ gpu nobody who can afford that cpu is going to buy this. r5 5600 or the i3 12100 or i5 12400 are popular budget cpus
Bad idea. Just don't buy it with a budget cpu, it has too much overhead or issues or whatever
@PhantommJ I find amusing tho that we get a decent budget GPU that can't be used normally with a budget CPU lol
notice how in games where the b580 performs badly (or equal) the usage is always around 90-105w. and in games where the b580 excel it goes up to 120-130w
Looks like affordable intel gpus are getting much more useful...
In ghost of Tsushima the GPU utilization is maxing out at 84-85%......Why is that? that's probably affecting performance.
Overhead issue ig
prolly driver issues, intel is still really new on the scene
@@jerrybhai3362 can you explain why is it called overhead? I know it is the dependance on having a really high end cpu to make good use of the gpu but i don't understand the term
@@AdityaSingh-lp5rp indiana jones showed a similar problem and supposedly the drivers were to blame (src: Daniel Owen). Also power cons. lowered with util. in that case
@@martinarguello3014 pc youtubers has already uploaded videos related to this
According to them b580 is only performing with expensive CPUs
It's not performing well with budget cpus
damn that was so cool transition between Fortnite and Tsushima🤩with the katana
Can you include games like Control, Kingdom Come Deliverance, Hell Let Loose, etc. cause they were free for a day and many people will play themm in future.
No offense but it's better that he benchmarks new games and from other benchmarks I've seen all those games run perfectly fine on both cards
@@anthonydriotes8804 yeah new games are better for benchmarking but I just asked cz I think those games will be more relatable to new gamers who will probably play in a budget setup
@@ShishirAdhikari-wj3fj good point
I'm using a i7-8700 with my b580. I have a strix z390-e mobo. With rebar off games are unplayable, but with rebar on it is awesome even with a CPU that isn't "compatible"
Look at the Power consumption of both. Insanely different
6:12 Funny enough, Fortnite, an UE5 games with all new features like Nanite, Virtual Shadow Maps, and Lumen, had 100+ FPS than its fellow UE5 games tho- (no offense to Black Myth Wukong, but I hope its engine version will be updated to 5.6 soon)
I love that intel arc has better power efficiency now
I have my B580 with a ryzen 7 7700x. Its does ok at 1440p good margin of games are playable over 60fps @ 1440p. Mainly with Xess quality enabled for the UE5 titled games. Some games i have to play at 1080p on my 1440p monitor to get a very good experience but hey thats fine with me
Bro I need a little advice i am upgrading my elitedesk i have thought of i7 4 gen that I get and going with a gt 730 4gb gddr5 any other options or suggestions please
Makes more sense to go with Arc B580 today but here in India, due to heavy taxation & poor distributor channel, they are gonna feel much more pricier than 249 USD. Intel Arc A770 was sold for 30K INR which is 349 USD equivalent.
It will be at 27000 like rx7600
nowhere are not 249$ including USA!! those assholes dont count in that price taxes which you must pay so it is more then 249$
250×85=21250
21250+28%=27200
@@jerrybhai3362 even then it's ok. Not on the pricing to blame.. just bad taxes of our country.
@@aswinkumarkk 🥲
the overhead issue starts to show at 1080p
can you please make a compare betwixt RX 7700XT and Arc B580?
Test it with a i7-8700 and a i9-9900k
So Battlemage is power-friendly for your PSU, AND your power bill. 👍🏻
indiana jones still.. 😂
sir could you do this on i7 8700?
why are your thumbnails same as testing games
Send me the link to the video with the same thumbnail as mine. I’m pretty sure it’s not the same because I created this thumbnail from begging.
Can you test B580 with Sons of the forest please, like and new sub!.
I will try to put it in the next test in games videos at 1440p.
this video ignores the overhead issue
Who will buy this GPU with 12100 or 4500😅?
@@Realmadridnewstt5600 is excellent choice for budget gaming but B580 is not working great at all with it
I ovo bi trebalo biti dobro 100%.
Skontao sam i ja da B580 komparacije sa ostalim prolaze savrseno sto je jako cudno vidjeti na ovom kanalu.
B580 under-utilized in ghost of Tsushima and car driving in uncharted.
Possibly a driver issue.
rx 570 and i7 3770
Dito isso vai chegar no Brasil por 3k facil.
Make a video on B580 with Ryzen 5 5600 and a high-end CPU at the same time.
5 5600 is a dead platform in my area 8400 and 7500 are cheaper and I can upgrade in future 😅
@@Realmadridnewstt I am obviously not buying a new processor for a $249 B580.
People are noticing how stuttery the B580 side is, right?
Also, using DLSS would provide an even better result for the 3060ti than it already has. How can anyone logically argue the 3060ti is not completely superior?
Also also, stop dry humping the higher VRAM, ppl... The wider bus on the 3060ti gives it significantly more efficient VRAM usage, so it can do more with less.
Can you timestamp some of the stutters? I just clicked around for the numbers and the couple I actually watched looked fine.
Yh the vram usage much lower in the rtx 3060 ti
And if you were to use nvidia I would use the studio drivers they reduce vram by like 2gb
Both the cards stutter 3:14 3:15 ish
Вы сравниваете новую карту с картой из 2020 года и радуетесь тому что Интел смог?!
Нет я не буду ее покупать, так же как и АМД, потому что найдется какая нибудь игра, в которой драйвер не будет нормально работать.
You know the B580 does not win at every game but it's 250.00 compared to 400.00 for the 3060 ti someone is going to tell me i got ti for 200.00 used i only compare new to new.
Can you try Cities Skylines 2?
İşlemci odaklı bir oyun. O oyunda Ekran kartından çok işlemciye yük biner
Quien usa una gpu de gama basica con un procesador i7. Las pruebas que hay NO sirven de nada para la mayoría. Es ilógico tener estas pgu y un i7 o un 9800x3d de esos
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B580 is the king of budget gpu bro
i think the b580 could pull ahead quite a bit if you factor in overclocking, in black myth wukong it ran at 100 watts even though being advertised as 190 watt. im no expert but i think its not at its full potential.
people forgetting b580 main achievement to provide 12gb vram at lower price
people are ignoring that ray tracing performance of b580 is better at lower price point
vulkan is working better with intel arc
the only issue with b580 is you have to use 12400f or ryzen 7600 above to actually enjoy its power
12VRAM is irrelevant (with one obvious exception, which is supposed to be fixed in a patch)... The 3060ti has a wider bus width and significantly faster data transfer, which allows it to more efficiently use VRAM; which you notice in the video.
1st comment
Why dont use DLSS/XeSS or turn down some settings when the game is running like shit(less than 60fps avg), I dont understand the point of showing Native 1440p resolution 40fps when the real player will try to catch at less 60fps, the comparison is allways bad at that point cuz we arent seen how is performing each card in a real situation, ur comparison should be with optimized settings and XeSS/DLSS/FSR quality when the game is running bad and the game has it, and still will be fair cuz both cards are with the same settings. If someone plays less than 60fps, dont use XESS DLSS and dont change graphics settings, BUY A CONSOLE 😅, people seen this videos are searching for a better and real experience for a ARC B580 and RTX 3060TI. This applies to all the benchmarks in youtube.
Simple solution. Open a RUclips channel and start creating that type of benchmarks.
@@edwardbenchmarks Sigma
@@edwardbenchmarks Ok I will do it!! I dont have the card but prolly my benchs will be more accurate than yours 🤣🤣🤣🤣, u do irreal scenarios benchs, is the same as faking the numbers benchs, but I will add FSR XeSS DLSS and probably will be more useful.
b580 taking half power to deliver equal performance of 3060ti
It's not equal performance...
? 14:31 i hav rtx 3060ti r5 5500 and already played at 2k high
High texture ?
With 100% less power usage less than the 3060 Ti, it delivers the same performance if not better. Not to mention with lower temps. This card is a contender to 4060 tbh, and sold at much less price.
The 3060 TI is 4 years older than the B580 LOL
@@lActivel Of course Einstein, that's why I said there it a contender to 4060.
Read mate. READ.
@@lActivel 3060 ti was double the price of arc. It(rtx) also performs better than 4060.
@@virginputinmonkey9457 I can buy a 3060 ti for $200 right now, also the B580 only preforms better with a 9800X3D so that kinda defeats the purpose of its entire existence. ALSO THE B580 IS 18 MONTHS NEWER THAN THE 4060 LOL THAT SHIT IS E WASTE
@@virginputinmonkey9457 It literally only preforms better with a 9800X3D which kinda defeats it's entire existence