1970s BOAC AIRLINES PROMOTIONAL FILM "AIRLINE PILOT" 79844
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2016
- Airline Pilot was produced by BOAC in 1970. The training of airline pilot Stephen Radcliffe is painstakingly thorough and this film intercuts the story of the young man's first flight as third officer on a journey from London, via Bahrain, to Bombay, with earlier scenes of his training. It describes the role of the College of Air Training, the aptitude tests, the theories and practical knowledge taught, the first solo flight, the hours in the simulator and the controlled flights in a real airliner, all leading up to his first international flight as second officer. Stephen was the youngest pilot ever to join BOAC. The filming actually started during Steve's simulator training on the VC10 and followed him to Shannon where he did his base training. There are some lovely air to air shots of the VC10 which has to be one of the most beautiful aircraft ever built.
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I shared a flat with Steve after Hamble. He went back to the college a couple of years later to do the rookie bit in that promotional film and reckoned that pretending to be an ab initio pilot was way harder than the real thing! Smashing guy …
Just flew back 50 years to my fist solo flight.... what a fantastic film! Thank you so much!
Imagine the feeling of that young man with only 250 hours at the controls of a VC-10!
This film really took me back to 1970 when I was on the first Commercial Officer course. We trained at Crainbank to qualify for flight planning, load sheets, meterology. Take off and landing perfoirmance. Once we passed the Advanced operations course we were posted as Overseas Duty Officers. My training postings were Bombay, Bangkok and Entebbe ( I left six days before Idi Amin’s coup ). The Super VC10 was a wonderful aircraft.
as long as you dant have to pay to fuel it up
"Braincrank" as we called it :)
That's cool. Sometimes I wish I had been alive back then. Times more simple, and people more friendly, and respectful to one another. Something about the 70s just seems more cozy.
@@russkydeutsch
Hi. It wasn’t that much different from now. In 1972 I joined The Parachute Regiment aged 15. You where far fitter than youngsters today and tougher so it wasn’t as easy in many ways than now. You where treated like an adult and if you needed a smack or a kick you got one! No namby pamby attitudes then. Many of the luxuries young ones take for granted now you just couldn’t possibly afford, very few houses had central heating so it was a coal fire in the living room and that was all the heat. Young men couldn’t possibly afford a car nor most even a motor bike so it was walk or have a push bike, you couldn’t afford even things like new shirts etc, you had to save up for them . Going out you couldn’t afford to drink heavily either, nor get into expensive clubs. You where always jealous of guys who where driving around in MGB motors and yes it did help if you had a car with the young ladies. But all in all things where not that hugely different from now so don’t worry you didn’t miss that much lol
I remember you training me in Reservations at Airways Terminal and meeting again years later at DXB and JNB..All seems a long time ago Nigel. Very best wishes.
My heart leapt when I saw it was the old VC 10 which I took regualary on the old Empire route from London-Cairo-Khartoum as a boy in the 1970's-80's. What a lovely airplane it was. Quiet too with a lovely smooth landing.
My dad was one of the film crew who made this film.
hi.....i worked with a few these fine crew....best wishes, simon holland film editor
That's awesome 😎
Yer dad did a splendid job. I understand the intricacies of making film. My father was a producer of television commercials for Oglivy & Mather and worked with the likes of yer dads film crew. Many challenges. "Kings for a Day" they were, me dad said
Let's hear more!!
Mythomaniac detected....
Very well produced info for the 1970s I enjoyed very much.
The Chipmunk in the film G-AOUN is still flying in 2022. It is registered in Germany as D-EPCL. De Havilland Canada sure builds them to last.
I wonder why a tricycle undercarriage wasn't chosen?
It was built to train pilots,
not passengers.
@@rosshoffman5783 Why learn to taxi/takeoff and land in a taildragger when your total commercial exp is going to be in tricycle plane?
Interesting to hear. G-AOUN was operated by Bournemouth Air Centre around 1971. I used to fly it from Hurn. I thought they sold or transferred it to the Netherlands, but I don't remember the year. The Chipmunk was a real aeroplane that was easy to fly, apart from shuffling left and right hand between stick, throttle, flaps, and brakes, but it had to be flown. The taildragger gear was just something else to think about. When I transferred onto tricycle gear aircraft that were stable and designed not to spin, it was easy. I doubt that would have been the case the other way around.
@@robharris5467 Because if you can taxi, takeoff and land a taildragger you can do it in anything. Also, the Chipmunk was originally built as a replacement for the wartime Tiger Moth to train pilots who were going to fly taildraggers.
If he had lived Steve would have been in his 70’s now. How time flies and the world moves on.
@@flightforensics4523 1970
Such a brave occupation to be a pilot. I have to be sedated in order to fly and I’m thankful God blesses these individuals with the fortitude to do it.
I am a student pilot and I love flying. However, I may have to be sedated to fly in economy class in the middle seat with a bunch of crazy people on board. Alone with the threat if getting Covid. Ha Ha. If I step foot on a commercial airliner, I am going to fly business class. The way passengers act on airplanes is appalling. Passengers should get on the plane and say hi to the flight attendants as they enter the plane. Wear you mask out of courtesy. Put your bag in the bin and purse under the seat, put your seat belt on, shut up, Put you phone on airplane mode and Listen to the emergency briefing. Have respect for the aircraft and do not trash it. Do not put you feet on the seat and so on. Clean up after your self. The flight attendants are not you mom or maid. Thank the flight attendants when they serve you your drink / Food / snack. Do not complain. Be a decent human being.
@@kimberlywentworth9160 If you're a student pilot, I suggest a spelling & writing course along with that. It's a bit scary contemplating anyone in the cockpit not being well educated in English composition and writing skills. There are numerous errors in your post accordingly.
Never a pilot, but flew many many miles as a passenger from one year old onwards. As an unaccompanied minor from early 60's through schooling into early 70's then joining merchant vessels all over the world until 89. When things were so much different there was many a flight I was invited into the cockpit. Oh what memories.
I ran into a few RAF VC-10 pilots during my repeated visits to England as an AF pilot. They were great chaps and enjoyed many of their stories. Never knew the background on how pilots were trained. Very cool!
Wish I had gone for a flying career but I spent all my youth taking things apart and fixing them.
Still I fly gliders and tow planes now which is great fun.
My Father made us play violin when we were young.
He was a music teacher.
I can only imagine if he was a pilot .........
What a great video and thanks for posting it.
Although it was sad to hear of the pilots death, I hope the video continues to be available; not only in memory of Stephen, but also to encourage young people to choose this path, which is one of the best careers in the world. I'm glad to be able to include pilots as friends.
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Reminds me of how beautiful an aeroplane the VC10 was. They don't make 'em like that anymore!
I used to watch them on final to JFK in the 1960s. You're right, there never was a more beautiful airframe.
@@johannesbols57 I’d say that the Spitfire and the SR-71 give it a run for its money, but I agree, it’s a true work of art.
BOAC's coloring is classy and I love it
What a beautyful film thanx for posting it.
Enjoyed very much to watch the video and the VC 10 is one of the finest and most beautyful airliners ever built
Wonderful show this. I appreciate the serious side of being a responsible pilot. I sense a subtle glamour to this profession in the air and on the ground as well. Fascinating documentary.
What a fantastic trip down memory lane....superb!
Excellent classic video!
Great quality too
amazing men what a lovely place england once was
And so it was. Soon all we'll have are these beautiful films to remind us.
Anyone who joined in the late 60´s early 70´s had a heck of a career on long haul.
Joined Air France in 1987 after stints in different outfits …….retired 4 months ago after 35 years. Once the 744 was introduced it went kind of downhill ……non stop flights….one or 2 nights and back. I was lucky to get the last bits of what we called « Le laitier » or the milk run stopping at every ports on the way.
This glamorous industry has now become the scapegoat of every greenie.
Great movie.
Great to see pictures of CAT Hamble in it's 'Heydays'....I was born in Hamble and my Father, Capt D J Oram was Chief Selection Officer at the College.
See if you can get a copy of the book The Cat And The Hamsters as it tells the story of the College of Air Training at Hamble.
This video takes me back to a trip I made with my family in 1971, at age 10, where one leg of the journey was by BOAC VC 10.
What a terrible tragedy, A fine looking lad too , His parents must have been so optomistic and proud only to come down to earth with such a terrible loss, My deepest sympathy ,Wonderful film Thank you whoever put it on Utube ...
Why so pitty? The pact is always this way. In other words, nobody assumes, or feels it , consciously.😈
Back when a flying was still something special.
Thanks for posting this film. However, there is a sad ending; it is reported on another aviation forum that "Steven Radcliffe was sadly killed on holiday in 1971 i.e. one year after this film was made."
Very sad indeed!
Actually this film was made in 1968 and released in 1970...
@@PeriscopeFilm I've got a 87 inch Super VC 10, BOAC CUTAWAY MODEL MADE IN BRITAIN
60s circa
@@philmontejano5971 Want to sell it? Was it the same as those seen in Travel Agents? They we're all made by a firm near Heathrow, I forget its name. Cheers.
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October 1971, aged eight I flew out to Auckland. A BOAC 707 to HKG, landed at night between the skyscrapers. A 9 hour stop over, then an ANZ DC8 down to AKL. Came home in August 1974- a VC10. The true Queen of the skies.
Super video thank you.
This video brings back fabulous memories of flying in a chipmunk as an air cadet many years ago and what an experience it was and also flying to Cyprus on board an RAF VC10 from Brize Norton the only difference was you were seated facing rearward.
*Weather looks alright - love it*
Damn good video...thanks for posting this.
Well done, I remember a few Hamble chaps from those days. Alas, we're all on the retired list now.
Pleasant trip down memory lane - not least the Far East run. Agree on comments on the 'Ten' - beautiful piece of kit.
Sheer nostalgia! G-AOUN was the aircraft in which I did my basic training in 1970!
That was brilliant!
Nice production!
Wow what memories. As a teenager I took my first International flight on a BOAC VC10. Sydney to New York via L.A. Don’t remember a lot of detail except that I had a long stop over in L.A. so the airline gave me a suite and a meal at the airport Sheraton hotel. When I arrived at JFK the terminal was so quiet, unthinkable now. A vanished World but so privileged to have been part of it.
I worked for BOAC from July 64 and had the good fortune to go on a training flight in a standard VC10 circa 67. 3 and a half hours from Heathrow to Bedford and back. Superb watching I believe 1st or 2nd offices being checked out while doing circuits and bumps. Wasnt quite so impressed when after we had landed back at Heathrow and taxied round to TBA that the Check Captain went back to the galley and shooved whatever food and drink hadnt been consumed into his pilots bag and then off he went.
What a great bird that VC10 was . Drop and engine and it still flew in a straightline. Try that in a 707 / 747 or A380 etc and its a different matter.
Interesting. I did the same thing with a colleague from Victoria AT Reservations not long after joining the airline in 1972. At that time it was relatively easy to phone up TBA at Heathrow and ask for a seat as an observer on a training flight. My 'trip' was multiple touch and gos at Stanstead at night including a picnic. About half way through, they called for a break and we stopped at the edge of the runway and scoffed sandwiches and hot coffee whilst the 4x Conways were left idling away all the while. Just goes to show how infrequently air traffic used Stanstead in those days.
A heart stopping moment came when the Check Captain had to grab the yoke and take control when a strong gust of wind suddenly lifted the left wing so violently whilst coming in to land, it nearly caused the right wing to strike the ground. The 'trainee' ex Canadian Air Force pilot took on a whiter shade of pale as a consequence, but quickly regained composure and resumed his touch and gos without further incident. Wonderful memory.
Nice video, my dream job as a kid, a Yank from New York. Started flying lessons age 16, my FAA Private on my 17th birthday. Joined the USMCR upon graduating from high school age 17. Went to Boot Camp, then Infantry training for six months. Released from active duty went to Florida for my Commercial, AMEL, CFI and started flight instructing age 18, got my IR built hours and experience. Interviewed for a DC8 F/O position age 20 at Seaboard World and was a standby for a class fall 68, but no job, no heavy experience. The following summer I was hired after getting to do a ILS and Touch an Go with the Chief Pilot in a DC8-55. Started class in July flying in September across the Atlantic to Europe and Pacific to Vietnam for the military. That all ended in January due to furlough from the economy and reduction of military business. I found another DC8 F/O job in May with Capitol International flying charters to Europe. That job ended at the end of September and started another job search. One possibility was East African Airways. I was offered an interview in NYC in January 70. A couple of weeks later I was offered a DC9 F/O position and left for Nairobi on a EAA SVC10 JFK-ZRH-NBO. On the second leg the Captain was the Fleet Captain for the VC10. I rode up front for a good portion of the flight. After spending the weekend in Nairobi we went to the airport to start DC9 school. When we arrived Captain Starling who interviewed in NYC asked me if I would prefer to train on the VC10 rather than the DC9. It took me about a half second to say yes. The VC10 was a great airplane to fly. One of the highlights of my 43 year airline pilot career.I sympathize with the young men in the film. I remember how exciting it all was as a young man.
Nice summary George. Mine was a little easier than yours as I started in '72 with the Air Force then after eleven years hired by an airline. Couldn't ask for a better career.
@@jcheck6 I can’t remember a single day I didn’t enjoy going to work.
Did you know an Engineer at EAA called Bob Cooper?
@@markotango54 No, I didn’t know him.
I was a member of the Junior Jet club BOAC 1963
That was very enjoyable!
It does indeed feel marvelous.
Looking so nice.
Thank you for sharing this video. Yes, many pilots find it so nice after those first flights.
The marvelous VC-10: the most beautiful airliner ever built! I have a big model of one in my office. Stephen was about my age back then, so sorry to learn he died so young.
I once flew the Singapore-Bahrain-London leg back in 1972 but alas on a British Caledonian 707, not a BOAC VC-10. Great piece of history, tho, thanks for posting
How did he die?
Thanks very much for this mate 😎
Thanks very, very much. Glad you appreciate it.
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Fantastic. My dad flew BOAC 707s and later BA 747-200s.
Hi, my grandfather flew Aerolíneas Argentinas 707-387 and 747-200 too.
Two superb birds! Greetings from Buenos Aires Argentina 🇦🇷
Nothing beats the sound of Conway 301s on full power.Brings back memories of my time at BZZ on 10 Sqn 1984-88 Cabin Crew!
very interesting to see
Rip Stephen, one more angel in paradise.😢
that second officer was signed off for his IOE on the day my dad was born. now he’s a captain at southwest. and i’ve got my checkride tomorrow. quite the coincidence.
Vickers VC-10, A legend of the skies.
32:34 it was how young pilots were introduced to the "thing" by more mature and experienced mustache pilots...
Young man looks like he went to Keble College (Oxford) judging by the scarf.
Really enjoyed. Pity if previous comment true.
very sorry to hear of his passing; way way too young and just on the cusp of a great flying career....how fickle fate is indeed
Apparently in 5 years there will be no flights for ordinary people in the green dystopian future.....
There might be more and they will probably be electrically powered
@@davidantill6949 Because of greenwash renewables, electricity will be unaffordable & unavailable in 5 years....
Great to see the Globetrotter and yellow crew baggage tag at 38:45. 👍😃
The yellow label is still in use at LGW!
Seemed like better days…
Hard not to come to the same conclusion
Tragic. So young
I was at primary school with twin brothers who both joined BOAC as trainee pilots at about the time this film was made. But I believe went on to fly the newly introduced 747s (and subsequently went on to greater things!)
Stealey brothers? Alan and I don't know the twin's name
Made me laugh-came to BA ten years ago from another airline, some of the calls and SOPs were still the same as then, thankfully now changed to be much closer to the manufacturer SOPs. Funny too, seeing a fresh Cranebank. Was looking a bit sorry for itself in its last years. Great film.
4:37 Hey its George from George and Mildred!
Nice video.
On my first solo the instructor told me to wait a moment to get her wallet, “in case I need to take a taxi beck to the airport”
Well that is confidence booster. Not.
Was it Wendy Crick
Wow! How things have changed? Except that we were still using Cranebank as a training facility until 10 years ago…
Steve went to the Colfox school in Bridport Dorset(early 60s)
Fantastic. 38:31 “sector favourable or unfavourable? Unfavourable. Oh we’ll take flight plan fuel then.”
As a teenager in North London in the 1960s, I had never been in a plane, only trendy jets setters went on planes.
Well my first flight was a one way flight to Sydney in February 1972.
I twas a 747 from Heathrow and took the best part of two days, Tel Aviv, Tehran Bangkok, Hong Kong Darwin and Sydney.
Aus is such a long way from anywhere and now a trip to blighty is a 24 hour flight sitting in a seat designed by the Spanish Inquisition and suffering from extreme tiredness.
I thought flying would be fun but it's just a means to an end.
Went to Hamble for interview in 77, didn't get far. Could have been more prepared if i knew what was going to happen. Hamble would have been brilliant for a trainee pilot, like a flying University. Cherokees and Beech Barons.
13:35 never gets boring sending students first solo, sense of pride really.
The Chipmunk was the first balsa wood model I ever made. Crashed into our roof on its first flight.
Well presented. Brought back many memories. BOAC eventually closed their Hamble training base. I worked as a flight instructor at Oxford which took over the bulk of the training for BOAC, or British Airways as it became. One small nit picky point. The throttle friction nut on piston engined aircraft is not put to 'tight' until airborne.
I disagree, Throttle Friction nut tight was certainly in the pre take off check when I learned to fly in 1967. I never really understood why anyone would want it loose at any time.
I wonder what is the meaning of the medals (as in military style) down below the Captain's wings on his uniform...
Hello, Ernesto. Those medals were in fact, from the military; The captain, like many others, were back then former military pilots. This one most likely was a former naval aviator, and the Airline probably used to let them wear their medals in their uniform as a sign of respect for their service and experience.
British Airways do still allow the pilots to wear any military awards (similar to the Captain in this film) if they wish. We have one or two of the more senior Captain's that do. It's subtle and a nice touch to the uniform.
@@MrM3rcury just see now your answer, thanks! i saw in another comment that the Captain was a war hero.
@@tenientef2 Wow!
The Captain has the 1939/45 Star, the Atlantic Star, Burma Star and War Medal. Probably ex RAF Coastal Command or Fleet Air Arm.
*Now look at today's version of TV show easyJet Inside The Cockpit*
I was one of the nine out of ten haha
Amstrong Vickers VC-10-Super
Vickers Armstrong...
@@EricIrl = es por abecedario Amstrong Vickers asi es lo correcto A-V
@@luchatrokaalvaradoguajardo5185 Alwats known as Vickers - Armstrong in the UK. You might be getting confused by the Avro company, which was a completely different company and originally founded by A V Roe (Alliot Verdon).
@@EricIrl = I arrived in Mexico twice a week British airways from 1972 to 78 sometimes with L-1011 sometimes with the VC-10 Super BA´´= LON-Bermuda-Mexico
@@luchatrokaalvaradoguajardo5185 That’s nice. I love the VC-10 (VC stood for Vickers Commercial).
Chipmunks at RAF Dishforth, and before that Tiger Moths (!) at Roborough. BRNC 1965. Then RRAF and SAAF. A forgotten world.
Is the flying instructor in the chipmunk, also a 70's TV sitcom actor?
what happened at about 33:50? Could not quite make out the words. Captain stopped the second officer and coached the first officer on something
FO calls something about the nr 3 engine and the SO is about to execute that order but the Captain stops the SO from doing it. And then the Captain tells the FO “Don’t ever call for anybody to do anything for an engine below 400ft”
34:53 Training Captain having a smoke. Love it!
@@oldmanc2 My early flight instructors got pissed off if I didn't empty the ashtrays on preflight!
I would like to fly the vc10
WTF? Thats the same Pilot that flew to Frankfurt 30 times in 1942 but did not land !
What happened to him?
any airworthy VC10 ?
Not anymore unfortunately but there was a couple cable of Fast Taxi 100kts until a couple of years ago.
"We'll take 57,000", so much for CRM. LOL
8:33 studying with a good pint of beer :-)
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@@PeriscopeFilm Thank you for your answer, that makes a lot of sense!
Airlines training new pilots?? Preposterous idea!
The days when only the rich could fly and everyone got dressed up for the 'occasion'. I was born in 1970 and only one girl from my Primary School had holidays in Spain. I remember seeing her mother in the mid eighties and her face looked like a scuffed up brown leather boot which I assume was from baking herself in the sun. Back in those times everyone else went to Skegness, Blackpool, Norfolk, Wales etc
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That new first officer has likely been retired now, for years. Anyone who wasn't a student in this video likely died decades ago.
Tragically, I think he was killed in a car crash a year after the film was released.
Ancient History ?
I wonder where this new candidate is today, and how his life turned out?
Does anyone know who the Captain is? I think he says over the PA it’s Captain Lovelace?
The Captain was Phil Hart-Lovelace.
@@stewedwards3122 Thank you Stew!
1:38 chad captain door slammer vs virgin expecting door to be held for him
Captain has ribbons on his tunic like the medal ribbons on a military uniform. Never seen that before.
With the age of the film, the Captain had likely served in WW2 as a pilot in the RAF and won the medals then.
@@davidlockwood9192 and boac airline pilots wore war medals on their uniforms?
BA crew today are still entitled to wear ribbons of military awards or decorations on their uniform. It’s rare, but I have seen it done!
Did they really take pilots straight out of their school and put them on VC10s? I would think new graduates would start on something something smaller, such as a BAC111.
Indeed they did. The same held true for BEA.
If you went to BOAC there were VC 10s and Boeing 707s. That was pretty much all they had.
@@SuperHeatherMorris l once heard the pilots who showed most natural stick and rudder skills were put on the B707 and the ones who were bright and could be trained to be a good operator were put on the VC10
@@markotango54 I think you are under the impression that the air corporations were capable of that sort of advanced thinking. I suspect it was supply and demand.
@@SuperHeatherMorris 🤣
Speedbird.
Excellent video. Today they want to let the janitors fly the jets 😳. Anyone who has a brain knows the janitors can't even clean properly unless supervised.
God bless the founding fathers 🙏
No VC 10 flight simulator in those years...
They had simulators with no visual, no motion . They would be called FTDs today. That was for all airplanes DC8, B707,DC9 so you had to do a fair bit of time training in the actual airplane. You can read the accident reports for more details.
@@georgeconway4360
Thanks George about your information.
And your surname is similar like the RR engines of de VC 10!!
Sorry about my english...
Greetings from Buenos Aires Argentina!!
@@leonardocaceres2540 Your english is far better than my Spanish. Yes the SVC10s at East African Airways had RR Conway 550Bs. Allowed MTOW from Nairobi to London. I was told neither the DC8 or B707 could fly non-stop to London. EAA had a SVC10 simulator in Nairobi with neither visual or motion. My previous experience with DC8 simulators was the same. Visual and motion was starting to appear but in the late 1970s were getting much better and I only had to do only one training flight as a B747 F/O. In 1985 and 1987 I also had to do one training flight for my FAA Type Rating in the B727 and DC8 during Captain upgrade. When I went to Captain on the MD11 in 1992 all training was completed in the simulator and the first time I sat in the actual airplane was on a flight from Anchorage to Tokyo with a check airman giving me my IOE, Initial Operating Experience. Simulators have experienced a dramatic evolution over the past 50 years.
Burnish Aires is a beautiful city. I enjoyed my few times there.
@@georgeconway4360
Mr Conway, my grandfather flew Aerolíneas Argentinas Comet IV, Boeing 707-387 and Boeing 747-200, three superb birds... He dies 10 Years ago.
Nowadays my daugther Malena is flying Also in AR too as first officer a Boeing 737-800 Max. She is only 27 years old and I'm so proud of her.
I visit London and others cities of your beautiful and incredible country Years ago..
So glad to meet you, and Greetings from the Lands of tango, Jorge Luis Borges and good meats and wines!
Good luck Sir and have a nice sunday. 🇦🇷🇬🇧
@@leonardocaceres2540 I’m actually an American, born in New York City, have lived about 30 miles West of Philadelphia for the past 36 years. When I went to East African in 1971 my classmates had been on the Comet IV and the last Comet was leaving for DAN AIR in the U.K.. Nice to hear your daughter is flying. I enjoyed going to work for 43 years. I feel fortunate to have flown the SVC10, not many Americans have the opportunity. It was well designed and a pleasure to fly.
Disneyland is in Anaheim…
I know. I've been there.
You can hear how everything was centered around the captain. He was god. The others were merely assistants. Its good that things have changed since then. Flying has become more boring, but also safe ( where the first is a direct consequence of the latter)
Wow it seems, with their vetting system of applicants, this training must've been government sponsored. In modern day America for example, we can take all the flying lessons and multiple attempts we want as long as we have the money to fund our education.
No company sponsored, BA as it became employed thousands of pilots. When i went for interview, few of the 8 of us seemed really interested in flying. One chap told me his father said have a go, if not be a dentist. I bet he got sponsored, Nigel material.
@@flybobbie1449 Wow! I like this BA system of education! It gives everyone an opportunity to pursue their dreams, while those who merit the skills can have a job in the end, so BA will have the ideal employee they personallt know and trained from the ground up! In the end, both the applicant and company are satisfied! Our system is more decoupled, because even if one is competent, there might not necessarily be. Job for them in the end.
Sort of like how companies in Japan will provide room and board for single employees.
@@fobypawz418 This system doesn't exist any more. In 1970 there were two state own airlines in the UK, BOAC and BEA. They both sponsored and paid for their own pilot training using The College of Air Training at Hamble in Hampshire. By the end of the 1980s, it had all ceased. Hamble airfield closed in 1986 and is slated to be turned into a gravel quarry.
@@EricIrl awww how sad. Everything is money oriented these days.
@@fobypawz418 Has been for over 40 years. BA stopped paying to train their aircrew in the 1980s. By then the airline was no longer state owned and had to answer to its shareholders and the stock market.