That fucking smile when he got up to his old tricks and predicted his opponents words for the first time in years is the kind of shit that allows me to get up in the morning.
As much as I would have liked him using "Your next line is..." more often in the series, the fact that he only uses it once makes this moment extra special.
It's kind of like how, in Part 4, Jotaro only gets 2 real Stardust Crusaders esque beat-down moments. Both of them are extra awesome because of the rarity.
I think he meant boasting when it wasn't certain that victory was within reach. Joseph started boasting because Empress was mostly solitified from the Coal Tar, unable to move, and literally like a minute or two later, was being held in a vice grip by Hermit Purple. Victory was basically guaranteed at that point, because Empress didn't quite have any way to fight back. And anyway, it had all been a part of Joseph's plan, more than likely.
thisisconfidentialsowhyareyoureadingthis? I'm rather positive Hermit positioned itself around Empress to avoid that. Had Empress not been covered in Coal Tar, and thusly mostly frozen and almost completely unable to move much less manage to bite Hermit, the likelyhood of Hermit getting bitten would have been much, much higher. But, still, only a Stand can hurt, much less kill another Stand, so Empress getting a bite in could have easily swayed the results of battle in it's favor. Biting Hermit MIGHT have been more trouble than it's worth, seeing as Hermit is absolutely COVERED in spikes/thorns. That's just my view on it and I could be wrong, though.
@@LazarusBell if I ever become an old man on a hospital bed hooked with wires, and see myself becoming a liability on my friends and family, I'd have them pull the plug on me rather than becoming an eye sore in everyone's eyes. Idk why i typed this.
If you look at how Joseph acts at the beginning of p4 and then how he acts at the end, it seems to completely imply that Joseph was just faking it the whole time.
This is just how JoJo fights are. The protagonist got outsmarted by the villain but then the protagonist outsmarted the villain that's outsmarting him but then he got outsmarted again by the villain but then the villain got outsmarted again by the protagonist and it was all the protagonist's plan
Its a shame we never saw Old Joseph do more of this. Out of all the crusdaers, he got the least solo battles. Sun should've been his victory, and he probably deserved at least one more
@@someoneusedtobeknown2645 but then again the guy said he preferred to fight people who were younger because they can beat him. So we probably wouldn't see battle tendency jojo because that was his prime but still. It is fun to think about
I'll go with Isaac Asimov's Fondation: "You prevented me from stopping you from coutnering my plan... But I planned it all along! This double agent that you actually mind controlled was ACTUALLY one of my most trusted men from which i erased all memories of crucial informations! -Wait, so i'm on your side from the beginning? -Yep."
The Fake Slim Shady Actually, it is called: "I know your plan, and it is planned around my plan. So I will plan around the plan you are planning around my plan!"
Fights like these are my favorites in all of JoJo, where the solution makes perfect sense but is just outside what the reader would expect. Using spirit photography to make a map of the town was such an intelligent idea and being able to make use of said map without it being an instant win is a mark of good writing. Araki has always been a genius when it comes to making use of terrain during fight scenes, stuff like the electrical wires from part 4 and the icicles from part 2 are prime examples of how Araki can create an interesting mechanic and make use of it in a coherent manner.
One of my favorite fights of all jojo is in part 4, killer queen vs crazy diamond, the change of scenarios, the glass bullets, the explosive air bubbles, it's just gold
My favourite fights are in Steel Ball Run. It's both a lot of action and logical games and it's done sooo well. I especially love the final fight, Diego included.
Speaking of which Petshop vs Iggy bc that entire fight was pure wit. Every time Iggy had a plan petshop figured out a solution around that plan. It was just crazy to watch
“Stand can be only defeated by another Stand” - now that’s what explains why Joseph, who fought and defeated powerful Pillarmen, struggles when fighting against Stands. Because Joseph didn’t defeat Pillarmen by just himself, he uses his surroundings and different things such as Tommy gun, clackers, strings, that one well next to the base which held Santana, plane, red stone of Aja and volcano, but he never actually utilizes just his pure power. Meanwhile, Stands can’t be affected by those things, and Empress, taking a physical form out of flesh, is just an exception which allowed Joseph to fight in his way.
Stands can't be affected by those things... but the Stand's USER can. Mariah is a perfect example of this - rather than attack her Stand (which they pretty much can't), Joseph and Avdol attack HER, in a clever way that uses her own powers against her. Honestly Araki just plain didn't give Joseph enough spotlight. We deserved a lot more 'Joseph finds a clever way to beat a Stand-user without being able to hurt their Stand' than we actually got.
@@ambiank4980 I can agree to disagree with that. Jotaros got brain power I won’t lie but part 2 Joseph was something else, at least to me, part 4 josuke also had some good moments, but to each their own opinion 👍🏿
"Once an opponent starts boasting his victory, he has already lost" *Fourty years earlier* "My arms are crossed and my eyes are closed, AC/DC. This is a victory pose!"
tirrene, I like to imagine Joseph totally knows he contradicts himself and is a hypocrite, but he just says anything to piss off or annoy his opponents
I wish he used Hamon more in this part. I know it's not super useful against anything other than the undead but, he should still be able to climb up walls, manipulate organic matter, and walk on water which are all things that would have been incredibly useful in different fights.
Although, from what I heard, he supposedly hadn't really used it much at all since he finished off the pillar men, so maybe it was mostly just due to a lack of practice, as a lot of those techniques were particularly advanced and such.
@@norrecvizharan1177 True. He would've actually looked almost as youthful if not the same as the rest of the crew if he used hamon more. Just look at Lisa Lisa.
I'd like to think someone followed sooner, and found Joseph just standing there with his arm at weird angles, talking to a boil, then doing a sick jump kick off the building and walking away.
Atleast to some extent. The doctor Joseph goes to can definitely see a boil. But whether normal people just see a boil no matter how much she's grown, or whether she hadn't fully developed when the doctor saw her, and non-Stand users can't see her fully developed form isn't very clear.
Actually, Araki hinted that Hermit Purple is a Stand inherited by Hamon users, not just Joseph. He once said that if the Part 3 protagonists (or in fact anyone who can see Stands) would somehow meet Joseph during Battle Tendency's events, they would see Hermit Purple manifested on him. We all know Stands didn't manifest (at least on a large scale) on people before Part 3 though. Another thing that supports this is the possibility of Jonathan also manifesting Hermit Purple, that is, if the stronger variant of Hermit Purple that DIO used a few times in Part 3 belongs to Jonathan. Not to mention, Hermit Purple is also the perfect Stand to conduct Hamon, no other Stand seems to be capable of that (though Joseph is the only one shown so far to use both a Stand and Hamon) Here's proof that Araki himself pretty much confirmed that Hermit Purple and Hamon are related: jojo.wikia.com/wiki/JoJonium/Special_Interviews . Scroll down to Volume 9 (Joseph Joestar).
I still think the idea of Jonathan having a Hermit Purple type stand makes no sense, given he tends to just punch his enemies. He wasn't a strategist like Joseph, more of a bruiser like Jotaro.
@@VGamingJunkieVT But he still used hamon, which is the point here, Hermit Purple/the Passion are stand representations of hamon that hamon users would have. Doesn't really matter what his fighting style was like, he was still a hamon user. At best I imagine he could have a humanoid stand that incorporates the Passion, but it still should be there.
I love that the colour palette changes when empress realised she’s been outsmarted, it’s same trick they used in battle tendency to show how disoriented and confused the enemy was and I was glad to see it return.
I really liked this episode mainly because it still showed that Joseph is still skilled despite his age and stand. When I first saw his stand and how he used it only for spirit photos that required a 30,000 yen camera that breaks I thought "That's it? Well that sucks" only to be surprised that episodes later he can use it along side his hamon abilities, use it on other things like tv and the ground to draw maps and use it to aid him in combat I was actually surprised. I also got hyped where he finally screwed that boil over the second he guessed her next words that shit was funny
Joseph’s strength was never about being powerful, he prefer to outsmart and using trick/trap to defeat his enemies. To me hermit purple (a tool stand) fit his character and personality best
He wasn't strong. Joseph doesn't have a good hamon control like Jonathan or Lisa Lisa, and his stand wasn't made to fight. But he only needs to outsmart. It doesn't matter the strenght when you can outsmart the opponent. Best Jojo ever
It still kinda sucks though. He didn't see that guy disguised as Jotaro, even though he figures out Straizo instantly, and he was fooled by the Sun's mirrors, even though he did the exact same trick against Straizo
3:12 I love this scene cause both ACDC and Kars boasted about their victory before Joseph had his last minute upperhand, and while Wamuu didn't boast, Joseph kept his respect for Wamuu
It's like what Prosciutto/Bruno say: "When you say you're going to do something, the deed's already done!"/"You're supposed to say that after you've already done it"
I was really hoping that Joseph's theme would play during this. But no dice. Maybe in an alternative universe David pro played overdrive during this scene.
@@BygoneT Counterpoint: This is essentially the last time we see Joseph Joestar in his full glory. ‘Overdrive’ as a send off would have been perfect for this scene, way better than ‘Fight to Antagonise’ at least.
The fact that Joseph is so good at reading people's heads and using the "Your next line is..." trick is taken to a whole new level when he can read someone's mind and use the trick just by their STAND.
Old Joseph : next you'll say "No! Please! Anything but that!" Empress : No! Please! Anything but that! Gah! Old Joseph : you fool! You fell for one of the classic blunders!
@@Ghost-bp7dp Which is why I loved Josuke and Giorno. I didn't like Jotaro's fights because it was just clear his stand was broken and overpowered with brute strength alone and the World just added to that power. But even though Josuke and Giorno had powerful stands, they didn't rely on brute force alone and they put the secondary effects of their stands to good use.
I really love this moment, along with Jotaro beating up Kira in DIU. It shows that even after many years have passed and even after both JoJos have taken on the mentor role and have become more mature, these guys are still the same people that we know and love parts ago
@@accele.231 stands are also the most inconsistent thing i have seen in a anime let's look at stats hol horse's stand the emperor has an E rank in precision yet the bullet fired moved around silver chariot sword (which has A rank in speed) return to it's original trajectory and nearly kill avdol, and according to stats the stand kiss from part 6 has the same level of power as the world you know dio's stand and said to be the strongest stand in existence besides star platinum
I was honestly confused as to why she died as I assumed it was a long range, autonomous stand (like Black Sabath who’s user was perfectly fine despite their stand getting obliterated)
this is one of my favorite episodes of Stardust because i got to see the real Joseph again, throughout the whole series he seemed like a different character, but in this episode it was like seeing how Joseph should have been portrayed the whole time, the fun genius trickster you outwitted people who had the edge on him, ripened with age.
thats because Joseph become a suporting character, if Joseph was shown like the part 2 Joseph but old the whole show then he probably be more popular than Jotaro. Same reason why Jotaro is on the sidelines most of part 4.
Joseph just lost his edge with time. He traded out his razor sharp skills at scheming in exchange for life experience which allowed him to lead the party all the way to Egypt. Even though he's their weakest fighter, Joseph is the leader of the Stardust Crusaders, and that's a huge accomplishment on its own.
"Behold, the power of my stand! RUclips Algorithm!" *Insert sound effect here* "Now everyone has it in their recommendations, four years after the upload!"
I think this is my favorite episode of part 3 so far. It felt like an episode straight from part 2, and the "your next line" trick coming back was so hype. I haven't made it to DIO quite yet, but as of right now Part 2 is still my favorite.
Joseph: You're going to say, "Stop, anything but that.". Enemy: Stop! Stop, anything but that! ....WAH?! Joseph: Heh! *Winks* BAM I really don't understand why he didn't have more moments like this in Stardust crusaders; yes he's old but his style of predicting their next line and having more moments like this where his experience does have that much of an impact would have made Part 3 so much better. I really disliked how they lacked more moments like this...
One of my favorite part 3 arcs. That throwback to part 2 is godly, especially with Joseph saying "if you boast about having already won you have already lost", it reminded me of his battle against esidisi. If he was like that all the time in part 3, it would have been a way better part but Joseph would have gotten all the spotlight^^
@@rmartinlopez98 That's why Jotaro is shoved off to the side for most of Part 4. Araki couldn't make him show up without kicking some serious ass, even against the main antagonist.
Stardust crusaders has the definition of a missed opportunity in it. One of the major side characters is an old man in his late 60s who was the previous protagonist. Later on the group encounters a man who has the power to reverse a person's age and they don't have thise 2 fight and revert the old man to how he was in the previous part
This is one of my favourite Old Joseph moments, the main reason being that this is where he really slips into his old self, you can see it at other moments too, but this is where I really see it shine through.
Joseph will always be my favorite Jojo for being goofy and outsmarting the outsmarting of his opponents, especially Joseph in Part 2, where he always predicts what his enemy will say next.
@3:34 I know this very well might be a fluke, but the way the added translation of "BAM" appears over Joseph's head makes me thing of Ceaser's headband from Part 2. Just something I noticed as it added a little something to what is pretty much Joseph's come back fight in Part 3.
Joseph gets another major victory in Stardust Crusaders, against Maria. Granted, Avdol "sort of" assisted with that one. His Hamon trick also nearly worked against Dio, had the latter not realized at the last second.
Monsterlord59, its actually explained that due to the appearance of stands, he had to find other ways to outsmart his opponents, and that means his best trick of the line usage couldn't be used anymore, though he finally got one off on a stand user
It's because Joseph learnt battle tactics in other ways. Stands are a relatively new thing for him, so he left that to his friends (who had more experience with the nature of Stands).
@@vaniljacob no no no hamon was also a new thing for joseph. He wasnt really properly trained for it until he met his teachers. Still he found ways to beat his opponents even though he was outmatched. Joseph knew about stands before jotaru so what your saying is nonsense. He was just too old and the writer nerfed him to make the new main character (jotaru) stand out more who has one of the most op stands in the series and yet joseph only got hermit purple. Had they given him a better stand and use hamon more often and actually made him like the young joseph ( like predicting lines every battle) Then people would like joseph more than the main character and the writer doesnt want that to happen
It's so very well done to show that he is still the same Jojo that he was during his youth, just with more experience. He's not a completely different character, there are moments where his youthful personality comes through, but he tempered it with experience and the passing of time. I would have loved him predicting Dio's next line at least once though.
i always wished he was as cool as he was in battle tendency. and then when i watched diamond is unbreakable i wished he was as cool as he was in stardust crusaders
It's good to see him in his true glory. Stardust crusader seemed to forget, he outsmarted and killed literal gods, without the help of a stand. Now he just gives commentaries and curses.
Love how he used the "your next line is" again.
Again.
.....N-NANI?!?
Why is there only one comment for the top comment
It feels so great to hear him say that again
He doesn't feel like Joseph without that.
He should've said after
"Still got it"
That fucking smile when he got up to his old tricks and predicted his opponents words for the first time in years is the kind of shit that allows me to get up in the morning.
couldn't say it better myself.
Tyrannosaurus Chexmix the thought being "I've still got it alright."
I am your 1,000th like.
Tyrannosaurus Chexmix you truly are a weeb
Oh yeah, definitely. Like, that's completely unquestionable.
"once your opponent starts to boast about his victory, he's already lost"
- Joseph Joestar, while boasting about his victory
I mean he was lost
Arrogance destroys the footholds of victory- Byakuya Kuchiki
Where did I place that damn Rinnegan again
-Madara Uchiha
Boasting while victory is not certain is surely a big lose, and possibly death flag
Technically he wasn't boasting. He was explaining his victory after it had already come to pass.
As much as I would have liked him using "Your next line is..." more often in the series, the fact that he only uses it once makes this moment extra special.
It's kind of like how, in Part 4, Jotaro only gets 2 real Stardust Crusaders esque beat-down moments. Both of them are extra awesome because of the rarity.
more often in the series, the fact he only uses it once makes this moment extra special.
N-NANI?!
True but Joseph should've been the one to fight alessi
@@VGamingJunkieVT my only issue is that one of those moments is in the end.
@@bensell982 agree. I would love to see Part 2 Joseph in the fight against Alessi... Well unless he didn't dodge Alessi Set and turn into a fetus
"Once an opponent starts to boast about his victory, he has already lost"
*boasts about victory*
I think he meant if they hadn't won yet.
I think he meant before the end of the battle.
I think he meant boasting when it wasn't certain that victory was within reach. Joseph started boasting because Empress was mostly solitified from the Coal Tar, unable to move, and literally like a minute or two later, was being held in a vice grip by Hermit Purple. Victory was basically guaranteed at that point, because Empress didn't quite have any way to fight back. And anyway, it had all been a part of Joseph's plan, more than likely.
what if empress bit hermit purple though
thisisconfidentialsowhyareyoureadingthis? I'm rather positive Hermit positioned itself around Empress to avoid that. Had Empress not been covered in Coal Tar, and thusly mostly frozen and almost completely unable to move much less manage to bite Hermit, the likelyhood of Hermit getting bitten would have been much, much higher. But, still, only a Stand can hurt, much less kill another Stand, so Empress getting a bite in could have easily swayed the results of battle in it's favor. Biting Hermit MIGHT have been more trouble than it's worth, seeing as Hermit is absolutely COVERED in spikes/thorns.
That's just my view on it and I could be wrong, though.
It pains to see him become senile, he was so cool, probably the most fun loving and entertaining JoJo of them all
@@LazarusBell if I ever become an old man on a hospital bed hooked with wires, and see myself becoming a liability on my friends and family, I'd have them pull the plug on me rather than becoming an eye sore in everyone's eyes. Idk why i typed this.
@@Anthony-dq4dl idk why I'm replying, but same.
This has always been me
I'm still convinced that he was just mostly pretending to be senile through part 4 as one last big prank near the end of his life
If you look at how Joseph acts at the beginning of p4 and then how he acts at the end, it seems to completely imply that Joseph was just faking it the whole time.
Forreal if only he didnt stop his hamon training 😞
This is just how JoJo fights are.
The protagonist got outsmarted by the villain but then the protagonist outsmarted the villain that's outsmarting him but then he got outsmarted again by the villain but then the villain got outsmarted again by the protagonist and it was all the protagonist's plan
No, that's just Joseph fights. After part 3, you don't see people outsmarting and manipulating each other.
Ah, the Joseph Joestar "screw around until you somehow win" fighting school.
Kishka *laughs in part 5*
Kishka *laughs in part 4*
@@doggerlander john cena : are you sure about that ?
Joseph gave her more advice than he ever gave Josuke
Tony Joestar to be fair Joseph also is not like 80 and senile in stardust
Joseph didn't shred up Josuke with his stand; I think that's a fair trade-off.
Lilliput Author and Toiletrist, Gargantuan Ideas I dunno... I'd take getting ten up by a Stand if I could get advice from my dad.
Now that I think about it, Empress is a half-sister of Josuke
Should of keep focusing on hamon
Its a shame we never saw Old Joseph do more of this. Out of all the crusdaers, he got the least solo battles. Sun should've been his victory, and he probably deserved at least one more
I think he should have fought the guy who's stand reverts you to a younger age. It would be great to see battle tendency jojo again
@@brave_skykorn For real! That was a golden opportunity!
@@someoneusedtobeknown2645 but then again the guy said he preferred to fight people who were younger because they can beat him. So we probably wouldn't see battle tendency jojo because that was his prime but still. It is fun to think about
I dont get how the thing over powered his hand. That was supposed to be stronger then santana
Assuming josephs hand is similar tech to stroheim
The least? Iggy was the least (except if you didn't count Iggy, then the title still goes to Joseph)
*Have you ever been so smart that you outsmarted someone who outsmarted you?*
I'll go with Isaac Asimov's Fondation:
"You prevented me from stopping you from coutnering my plan... But I planned it all along! This double agent that you actually mind controlled was ACTUALLY one of my most trusted men from which i erased all memories of crucial informations!
-Wait, so i'm on your side from the beginning?
-Yep."
*gets kicked in the balls* "You fool. You absolute idiot. Getting kicked in the balls was my plan from the start. It's over."
Dio "You beating the shit out of me was part of my plan all along!"
The Fake Slim Shady maybe?
The Fake Slim Shady Actually, it is called:
"I know your plan, and it is planned around my plan. So I will plan around the plan you are planning around my plan!"
Joseph: "I guess I just get better with age"
Part 4: "I'm about to end this man's whole career"
Mark Santos
Joseph: *survives part 3*
Senility: *Awaken.mp3*
4 is evil
Omega Phoenix indeed
@@omegaphoenix2044 Mista tried to warn us.
I still subscribe to the train of thought that his senility was a big joke.
Fights like these are my favorites in all of JoJo, where the solution makes perfect sense but is just outside what the reader would expect. Using spirit photography to make a map of the town was such an intelligent idea and being able to make use of said map without it being an instant win is a mark of good writing.
Araki has always been a genius when it comes to making use of terrain during fight scenes, stuff like the electrical wires from part 4 and the icicles from part 2 are prime examples of how Araki can create an interesting mechanic and make use of it in a coherent manner.
I love how stand battles, especially later on, feel like logic games.
With each part the stand fights become more complex and interesting
One of my favorite fights of all jojo is in part 4, killer queen vs crazy diamond, the change of scenarios, the glass bullets, the explosive air bubbles, it's just gold
My favourite fights are in Steel Ball Run. It's both a lot of action and logical games and it's done sooo well. I especially love the final fight, Diego included.
Speaking of which Petshop vs Iggy bc that entire fight was pure wit. Every time Iggy had a plan petshop figured out a solution around that plan. It was just crazy to watch
Your next line will be: I wish Old Joseph did this More Often!
I wish Old Joseph did this More Often!
NANI!!!!
I wish Old Joseph did this More Often!
0_0
Toiu!
*BAM!*
@Endershock1678
Eh? Not even a single nani?
3:30
Literally everyone: "Oh my god he did the thing"
I believe you mean *OH MY GOD*
Nicholas Knudson
I think YOU mean *HOLY SHIT*
Nate the Great I believe you meant HORY SHIEET
i think you meant HOORI SHIEET
Oh my god he did the thing. Huh?!
“Stand can be only defeated by another Stand” - now that’s what explains why Joseph, who fought and defeated powerful Pillarmen, struggles when fighting against Stands. Because Joseph didn’t defeat Pillarmen by just himself, he uses his surroundings and different things such as Tommy gun, clackers, strings, that one well next to the base which held Santana, plane, red stone of Aja and volcano, but he never actually utilizes just his pure power. Meanwhile, Stands can’t be affected by those things, and Empress, taking a physical form out of flesh, is just an exception which allowed Joseph to fight in his way.
i never really thought about it that way but that makes a lot of sense
Stands can't be affected by those things... but the Stand's USER can. Mariah is a perfect example of this - rather than attack her Stand (which they pretty much can't), Joseph and Avdol attack HER, in a clever way that uses her own powers against her.
Honestly Araki just plain didn't give Joseph enough spotlight. We deserved a lot more 'Joseph finds a clever way to beat a Stand-user without being able to hurt their Stand' than we actually got.
@@tunoddenrub Mariah is an exception as well.
He could have at least gotten a vampire stand user to dunk on with Hamon.
@@somejerk5662 Yeah, that would be cool.
Everyone gangsta until Joseph yells *OHHH MYY GAADDD*
i guess it just gets stranger with parts
You could say Josuke is the support of the JoJo’s due to having a healing stand.
Jolyne - d o r i m e
Johnny - s p i n
Josuke 8 - 4 b a l l
Doctor Neexzy bruh lmao
@@ABAgamer_ josuke as the support
Joseph as the brains of the operation
Jonathan as the leader
Jotaro as the offense
Giorno as a support too
She Got the Kars Treatment
Difference being she never went to space
I Mean She Became Solid from the Coal Tar
The difference being that she actually died
Nah, he straight up slaughtered her.
I think he meant Esidisi
Joseph will always stay the most iconic and best Jojo Protagonist
You can’t change my mind
I’d argue that jotaros the most iconic but Joseph still is the best jojo
I’d say he’s the smartest, but jotaro is practically the face of the show
@@cyrusstevenson880 Jotaro would be the smartest but Joseph is the most cunning one.
@@ambiank4980 I can agree to disagree with that. Jotaros got brain power I won’t lie but part 2 Joseph was something else, at least to me, part 4 josuke also had some good moments, but to each their own opinion 👍🏿
@@cyrusstevenson880 Joseph part 2 it's too impredictable even for a Jotaros with his OP Star Platinum
3:38
"Children can't depend on their parents forever"
Yeah, you used that on Josuke and nigerundayo'd after one day
Ay yes the famous joestar technice
Lmao
Bruh older Joseph be racist as hell
@@sometimesknownas3610 why racist?
Lawliet he hates the Japanese
"Once an opponent starts boasting his victory, he has already lost"
*Fourty years earlier*
"My arms are crossed and my eyes are closed, AC/DC. This is a victory pose!"
You mean the Pillar Man Esidisi, right? Because if so...
You're totally right lol.
@@Delta10Media yes, AC/DC
To be fair, Acdc boasted first...
MASANI MASANI MA SA NI -ACDC
tirrene, I like to imagine Joseph totally knows he contradicts himself and is a hypocrite, but he just says anything to piss off or annoy his opponents
I wish he used Hamon more in this part. I know it's not super useful against anything other than the undead but, he should still be able to climb up walls, manipulate organic matter, and walk on water which are all things that would have been incredibly useful in different fights.
Although, from what I heard, he supposedly hadn't really used it much at all since he finished off the pillar men, so maybe it was mostly just due to a lack of practice, as a lot of those techniques were particularly advanced and such.
HE SHOULD'VE USED IT TO CHEAT WITH DARBY
@@norrecvizharan1177 True. He would've actually looked almost as youthful if not the same as the rest of the crew if he used hamon more. Just look at Lisa Lisa.
@@robynthethird4776 Hamon is visible to non Hamon users. D'Arby would've seen him cheat and taken his soul immediately.
He used it on darby
Do you think any people followed that map and were just really confused to see nothing but a drum of coal tar?
I'd like to think someone followed sooner, and found Joseph just standing there with his arm at weird angles, talking to a boil, then doing a sick jump kick off the building and walking away.
Azzabackam I think that normal people can see Empress.
Atleast to some extent. The doctor Joseph goes to can definitely see a boil. But whether normal people just see a boil no matter how much she's grown, or whether she hadn't fully developed when the doctor saw her, and non-Stand users can't see her fully developed form isn't very clear.
They WOULD however, see a bunch of coal tar solidified in a vaguely empress shaped area off of his arm though.
@@FFKonoko True.
I love how when Hermit Purple moves it makes the Hamon wave sound. It's orgasmic at this point to hear that sound again
i am wood
It's because joseph uses hamon along with hermit purple
Actually, Araki hinted that Hermit Purple is a Stand inherited by Hamon users, not just Joseph. He once said that if the Part 3 protagonists (or in fact anyone who can see Stands) would somehow meet Joseph during Battle Tendency's events, they would see Hermit Purple manifested on him. We all know Stands didn't manifest (at least on a large scale) on people before Part 3 though. Another thing that supports this is the possibility of Jonathan also manifesting Hermit Purple, that is, if the stronger variant of Hermit Purple that DIO used a few times in Part 3 belongs to Jonathan. Not to mention, Hermit Purple is also the perfect Stand to conduct Hamon, no other Stand seems to be capable of that (though Joseph is the only one shown so far to use both a Stand and Hamon)
Here's proof that Araki himself pretty much confirmed that Hermit Purple and Hamon are related: jojo.wikia.com/wiki/JoJonium/Special_Interviews . Scroll down to Volume 9 (Joseph Joestar).
Jonathan's Stand is called The Passion
I still think the idea of Jonathan having a Hermit Purple type stand makes no sense, given he tends to just punch his enemies. He wasn't a strategist like Joseph, more of a bruiser like Jotaro.
@@VGamingJunkieVT But he still used hamon, which is the point here, Hermit Purple/the Passion are stand representations of hamon that hamon users would have. Doesn't really matter what his fighting style was like, he was still a hamon user.
At best I imagine he could have a humanoid stand that incorporates the Passion, but it still should be there.
“You’re going to say “stop, anything but that””
He said it! HE SAID THE THING!
"He's in boys! He did it! He said it!" *airhorn sounds*
I love that the colour palette changes when empress realised she’s been outsmarted, it’s same trick they used in battle tendency to show how disoriented and confused the enemy was and I was glad to see it return.
Ye
same
actually there's no "real" palette
@@ChrisTian-sd5yq I'd argue that the real color palette is the one that's used throughout the big majority of episodes
They never stopped changing the palette ever, it's a JoJo thing
I really liked this episode mainly because it still showed that Joseph is still skilled despite his age and stand. When I first saw his stand and how he used it only for spirit photos that required a 30,000 yen camera that breaks I thought "That's it? Well that sucks" only to be surprised that episodes later he can use it along side his hamon abilities, use it on other things like tv and the ground to draw maps and use it to aid him in combat I was actually surprised. I also got hyped where he finally screwed that boil over the second he guessed her next words that shit was funny
Floodrunner_ 20 Don't forget helping Jotaro cheat at video games against someone who can read souls.
Joseph’s strength was never about being powerful, he prefer to outsmart and using trick/trap to defeat his enemies. To me hermit purple (a tool stand) fit his character and personality best
He wasn't strong. Joseph doesn't have a good hamon control like Jonathan or Lisa Lisa, and his stand wasn't made to fight. But he only needs to outsmart. It doesn't matter the strenght when you can outsmart the opponent. Best Jojo ever
It still kinda sucks though. He didn't see that guy disguised as Jotaro, even though he figures out Straizo instantly, and he was fooled by the Sun's mirrors, even though he did the exact same trick against Straizo
Endershock1678 These were played for comedy purposes
You can use a single line from young Joseph to describe his entire fighting style: "You may have out smarted me, but I outsmarted your outsmarting!"
This is exactly why Joseph Joestar will always be the best JoJo.
Edit: RIP Unsho Ishizuka. We'll see you later, Space Cowboy.
no but johnny is
Solid Snek lowkey hated johnny. The side characters and side villians made that part for me.
meds vannie I will forever have an eternal battle on wether or not I prefer Joseph or Johnny.
I'll say the same thing to you i said to my friend when he made that claim.
Johnny can't use the Joestar family secret technique
Ugh....freaking plebs. Jolyne FTW, with Josuke as a close second
3:12
I love this scene cause both ACDC and Kars boasted about their victory before Joseph had his last minute upperhand, and while Wamuu didn't boast, Joseph kept his respect for Wamuu
I LOV THIS
It's like what Prosciutto/Bruno say:
"When you say you're going to do something, the deed's already done!"/"You're supposed to say that after you've already done it"
lmfao ACDC
The way Hermit Purple just spreads out so much when he gets rid of Empress is so cool. I really wish they played out the tentacle aspect of HP more.
It doesn't matter his age. When Joseph Joestar predicts what you say next, you know you're fucked. LOL.
The older he gets the better he gets
Zyredical until 10 years later.
"And next you're going to say- Eh- Uh.... What was it again?"
Eh, Uh... What was it again?
NANI?!?!
+Zyredical Until Part 4 anyway.
Imagine if 'Overdrive' played during this scene
That would be perfect
I was really hoping that Joseph's theme would play during this. But no dice. Maybe in an alternative universe David pro played overdrive during this scene.
I dunno man, there's not that much happening, overdrive is pretty energetic
@@BygoneT
Counterpoint: This is essentially the last time we see Joseph Joestar in his full glory. ‘Overdrive’ as a send off would have been perfect for this scene, way better than ‘Fight to Antagonise’ at least.
@@T_Dude I changed my mind, you're right.
The fact that Joseph is so good at reading people's heads and using the "Your next line is..." trick is taken to a whole new level when he can read someone's mind and use the trick just by their STAND.
To quote my boyfriend, "Who put this Battle Tendency in my Stardust Crusaders?
pls gib moar"
Waiter! There's a Battle Tendency in my Stardust Crusaders! Also I want more of them!
In one of the games, Alessi's age backwards Stand is used on Joseph. Returning him to his Part 2 self. It doesn't end well for Alessi.
An animator from David production did a art piece based off that scene!
... your boyfriend must realize, then, that joseph jouster is best jojo
@@VGamingJunkieVT But he's still Old Joseph in mind?
"Now, where's that stand user?"
Dead, I think, Mr. Joestar
XD
Gotta confirm the kill.
Polnareff: Surprise Pikachu Face
Rest in piece Nobuo Ishizuka, Your southing voice and your amazing acting Will be missed.
Old Joseph : next you'll say "No! Please! Anything but that!"
Empress : No! Please! Anything but that! Gah!
Old Joseph : you fool! You fell for one of the classic blunders!
It should be "You fell for it, fool! Thunder cross split attack"
you fell for it fool! hermit purple split attack!
2:13 Hahaha he wanted a "Nani!?" like he used to get
I love how most of JoJo fights are just people outsmarting each other rather than "who has the better strength" in other shonen anime
Brain is their strongest muscle, which is super strong when we see other mucles they have lol
More specifically the strength of their mind and wits.
Eh. Sometimes they just get lucky.
Except when it's Jonathan or Jotaro. They just overpowered their opponents most of the time lol
@@Ghost-bp7dp Which is why I loved Josuke and Giorno. I didn't like Jotaro's fights because it was just clear his stand was broken and overpowered with brute strength alone and the World just added to that power. But even though Josuke and Giorno had powerful stands, they didn't rely on brute force alone and they put the secondary effects of their stands to good use.
COLLLAA TAAARRRRA
KOORU TAARU!
KOOOOOORU TAAAAAAAAAA
Predisimal lol
Predisimal that's some rancid cola
I swear every time they speak English
They say it in the most hilarious way possible 😂🤣
The voice actor of JoeStar died in August. He was 67 years old.
As a proud german soldier fighting in stalingrad
No wait-
Joseph Joestar outlived everyone, even his voice actor
@@drvlive2023 *OH GOD.*
Joseph's gonna have the same VA, whatever his age.
@@revinhatol too bad, Joseph's last appearance was in DIU, before his VA died
But there's no record that Joseph joestar ever died
Joseph: with the ability of my stand
PURPLE HERMIT
Purple hermit comes out in blue colour
2:43
It’s Hermit blue
老ジョセフの「お前は～ という」のセリフ聞けて嬉しかったなぁ
Yes
Yeah i 100% agree
3:29
When Joseph predicted her line, it reminded me of MGS4 as if the X button were to be pressed to see flashbacks of his younger self in battle.
@RevenantCherche if he did, it would've been over too soon lol Young Joseph with a stand would make quick work of him
I would have started crying buckets. But they'd be tears of happiness. Lol
😌
I really love this moment, along with Jotaro beating up Kira in DIU. It shows that even after many years have passed and even after both JoJos have taken on the mentor role and have become more mature, these guys are still the same people that we know and love parts ago
3:13 "Once your opponent starts to boast his victory, he's already lost."
*He says, as he boasts his victory*
It's because he knew he won the fight
If the comment above is a joke and you know consider my comment unneeded
He'll say anything to piss off his opponents
@@thefinalcrusader4250 like when he did In the ultimate life form kars fight lol
@@deleteduser616 yeah pretty much
@@thefinalcrusader4250 ye
"now where's that stand user?" uhhhhh.. a pile of chicken nuggets, dude
it might b e a remote controlled stand, as seen when sheer heart attack was pummeled by both jotaro and josuke, no damage returned to kira
@@accele.231 stands are also the most inconsistent thing i have seen in a anime let's look at stats hol horse's stand the emperor has an E rank in precision yet the bullet fired moved around silver chariot sword (which has A rank in speed) return to it's original trajectory and nearly kill avdol, and according to stats the stand kiss from part 6 has the same level of power as the world you know dio's stand and said to be the strongest stand in existence besides star platinum
@@bensell982 dude you dont get it the strongest stand in existence is obviously zippers
I was honestly confused as to why she died as I assumed it was a long range, autonomous stand (like Black Sabath who’s user was perfectly fine despite their stand getting obliterated)
“You may have outsmarted me, but I’ve outsmarted your outsmarting!”
Old Joseph: *and i took that personally.*
this is one of my favorite episodes of Stardust because i got to see the real Joseph again, throughout the whole series he seemed like a different character, but in this episode it was like seeing how Joseph should have been portrayed the whole time, the fun genius trickster you outwitted people who had the edge on him, ripened with age.
thats because Joseph become a suporting character, if Joseph was shown like the part 2 Joseph but old the whole show then he probably be more popular than Jotaro.
Same reason why Jotaro is on the sidelines most of part 4.
@@astrophel12 Jotaro still did work in part 4 even more than Josuke it’s just that Araki didn’t want to make the previous protagonist op at the time
50 years can change anyone. Joseph was almost a teenager in part 2
People change with time, you can't just expect Joseph to stay the same forever. He got himself a wife, family, a kid
Joseph just lost his edge with time. He traded out his razor sharp skills at scheming in exchange for life experience which allowed him to lead the party all the way to Egypt. Even though he's their weakest fighter, Joseph is the leader of the Stardust Crusaders, and that's a huge accomplishment on its own.
Joseph is best boy.
Maybe when he was younger...
Now he's best M A N
Not best boi
"Best DILF"
Narancia is the best boiiii now
Ronald Neira GILF
No best boi
BEST JOESTAR
3:42. "And there's why I abandoned you Josuke"
年を取ってもジョセフの読みは健在かぁ...流石前作主人公
EM🅿RESS M🅰CHINE 🅱R🅾KE
I Refuse Understandable, Have a great day.
CAN I HAVE A
🅱ONELESS STAN🅱O
i am wood 🅱️r🆗️e
DnkCrmyMeme 🅱️among 🅱️nergy
CasedMurr when I saw your comment, empress died
"Behold, the power of my stand! RUclips Algorithm!"
*Insert sound effect here*
"Now everyone has it in their recommendations, four years after the upload!"
So it seems.
It annoyed me that Joseph didn't do the word prediction more often in part 3.
To be fair, he didn't win a ton of fights in part 3. This was, if memory serves, the only Stand he actually defeated.
He defeated Mariah alongside Avdol... There were probably others too.
2 JOJO's in part 3 they had to nerf the one
If you want to be technical, Joseph also assisted with the Younger D'arby by helping Jotaro cheat. Jotaro probably wouldn't have won by himself.
it wouldn't make sense for him to always do it,part 3 is obviously supposed to focus more on Jotaro than Joseph
How to rekt 101
I'll leave this comment at 101 likes
Shadow Surion Raikaze how to get likes 101?
This made me smile so hard even in old age he’s still up to his old tricks
His god damn cocky smirk after he predicts his line gets me everytime
u mean Hermit Cyan
Hermit (*whatever fuckin palette we want it to be*)
Digi Tamer J pallets are inverted in stand battles
Hermit it doesn't matter stands don't care if they contradict their name
Digi Tamer J u rang?
Azzabackam Deep Blue Hermit
3:58
Joseph : Now then... where's this stand user?
*Polnareff is going to have a bad time*
😂that’s true
'only stands can defeat stands' well that rule soon got stretched out thin
gtafan110010 Technically, he did use his stand.
He used his stand for the finishing blow
The stand on his arm created a physical form, hence how the tar affected it.
The tar could not harm Empress; but it could stop her moving.
270 people actually thought there was a contradiction when there was none. Just because there are inconsistencies doesn't mean you should make up one.
For me Joseph is the best Jojo for all times the way how he solve his problem by outsmarting his oponents is hilariouse
Now if Overdrive started to play when he said "You're going to say: Anything but that", it would've been perfect
When Joseph predicted Empress’ next line, not gonna lie, I had a stupidly wide grin on my face
ハーミットパープルの地味な感じの能力すこ
I think this is my favorite episode of part 3 so far. It felt like an episode straight from part 2, and the "your next line" trick coming back was so hype. I haven't made it to DIO quite yet, but as of right now Part 2 is still my favorite.
only gets better from here on out. be careful on youtube lol
@@nikolacatlak9875 yeah I've told myself to stop reading JoJo comments
Part 3 and 4 are wonderful, but there's something so uniquely special about part 2, no matter how well the rest is done, you can't beat that.
3:28 HE DID IT, HE DID IT AGAIN. WHY I DONT REMEMBER THAT PART
3:29
This is why Old Joseph is my favorite character of this series.
HERMIT PURPLE wins!
1:26 Well yes, but actually no
3:39 no wonder he left joskue
Bone Boi -WHEEZE-
Savage
He didn't know about Josuke.
Fuck me that's hustle brutal
若い時とは違った格好良さがある。
2:17 Jojo part 4 foreshadowing
2部(ジョセフ)好きにはたまらないシーン。セリフの先読みがあるし。
Joseph: You're going to say, "Stop, anything but that.".
Enemy: Stop! Stop, anything but that! ....WAH?!
Joseph: Heh! *Winks* BAM
I really don't understand why he didn't have more moments like this in Stardust crusaders; yes he's old but his style of predicting their next line and having more moments like this where his experience does have that much of an impact would have made Part 3 so much better. I really disliked how they lacked more moments like this...
bcoz he is going to outshine the main character
Wouldve liked to see Alessi de-age him back to part 2 for an ass kicking.
NeuroticNyx aleesi?
@@CreatorsHubCreates the one who turned polnareff and jotaro into kids
3:29
That wink wasn't to the Empress. That wink was to all the fans of Battle Tendency as Joseph has one of his last great moments as a protagonist.
>Hermit purple
>It's light green
Inverted colors.
There are no canon colors in Jojo.
「BLUE EMERALD SPLASH」
The day Bryan realized he's color blind
Colors are inverted in crucial situations. You'll see what I mean when you continue watching the show.
2:37 idk why bit that laugh makes me smile
The fact that people without stands just see Joseph talking to his arm is hilarious
One of my favorite part 3 arcs. That throwback to part 2 is godly, especially with Joseph saying "if you boast about having already won you have already lost", it reminded me of his battle against esidisi. If he was like that all the time in part 3, it would have been a way better part but Joseph would have gotten all the spotlight^^
Quality Queen ...
Fuck I've been discovered
Quality Queen I wouldn't have minded Joseph getting the spotlight lol. He was a much better JoJo than "Imma just be edgy and punch stuff" Jotaro
@@rmartinlopez98
That's why Jotaro is shoved off to the side for most of Part 4. Araki couldn't make him show up without kicking some serious ass, even against the main antagonist.
Stardust crusaders has the definition of a missed opportunity in it.
One of the major side characters is an old man in his late 60s who was the previous protagonist. Later on the group encounters a man who has the power to reverse a person's age and they don't have thise 2 fight and revert the old man to how he was in the previous part
This is one of my favourite Old Joseph moments, the main reason being that this is where he really slips into his old self, you can see it at other moments too, but this is where I really see it shine through.
Joseph will always be my favorite Jojo for being goofy and outsmarting the outsmarting of his opponents, especially Joseph in Part 2, where he always predicts what his enemy will say next.
@3:34 I know this very well might be a fluke, but the way the added translation of "BAM" appears over Joseph's head makes me thing of Ceaser's headband from Part 2. Just something I noticed as it added a little something to what is pretty much Joseph's come back fight in Part 3.
Joseph gets another major victory in Stardust Crusaders, against Maria. Granted, Avdol "sort of" assisted with that one. His Hamon trick also nearly worked against Dio, had the latter not realized at the last second.
And the japanese characters behind his head look like the ends of the headband like when he pulled them in bloody stresm
Hey, I thought he forgot about the "Next you're gonna say" thing.
Thing.
NANI?!
Random WEirDneZ
LMAO
Monsterlord59, its actually explained that due to the appearance of stands, he had to find other ways to outsmart his opponents, and that means his best trick of the line usage couldn't be used anymore, though he finally got one off on a stand user
It's because Joseph learnt battle tactics in other ways. Stands are a relatively new thing for him, so he left that to his friends (who had more experience with the nature of Stands).
@@vaniljacob no no no hamon was also a new thing for joseph. He wasnt really properly trained for it until he met his teachers. Still he found ways to beat his opponents even though he was outmatched. Joseph knew about stands before jotaru so what your saying is nonsense. He was just too old and the writer nerfed him to make the new main character (jotaru) stand out more who has one of the most op stands in the series and yet joseph only got hermit purple. Had they given him a better stand and use hamon more often and actually made him like the young joseph ( like predicting lines every battle) Then people would like joseph more than the main character and the writer doesnt want that to happen
“I just get better with age”
Part 4:
Joseph has the ultimate power of knowing how the script of the show goes. Is literally invincible
もうこの声が聞けないと悲しいなぁ……
Joseph outsmarting an outsmarting that resulted from an outsmarting is the most Joseph thing ever.
爺いになっても、敵の裏の裏のそのまた裏を読むジョセフ！格好良(読み方：かっピョイ)いです！Σｄ(ﾟ∀ﾟ)
It's so very well done to show that he is still the same Jojo that he was during his youth, just with more experience. He's not a completely different character, there are moments where his youthful personality comes through, but he tempered it with experience and the passing of time. I would have loved him predicting Dio's next line at least once though.
love how his eyes "smile" at 1:59
2:06 QUE!!!!!!? QUEEEEE!!? XDDDDDD 😂😂😂
HE PULLED THE OLD 'You're next line will be' TRICK
trick.
AH--
0:09 i feel like the cow knows the situation
R.I.P. Unsho Ishizuka
Hard to believe that when the VA died... I lost this man AND Heihachi Mishima.
i always wished he was as cool as he was in battle tendency.
and then when i watched diamond is unbreakable i wished he was as cool as he was in stardust crusaders
Facts 😂😂😂
Lesson 1: How to destroy a beloved character.
I love how 90% of the anime is just the whole "yea, but.." thing most of us did back in third grade when pretending we had superpowers.
I love the "I still got it" look after he delivers his classic line
It's good to see him in his true glory. Stardust crusader seemed to forget, he outsmarted and killed literal gods, without the help of a stand.
Now he just gives commentaries and curses.
I love how it momentarily wemt back to Battle Tendencys color pallette
たとて老いてもジョセフが三部の中でも1番かっこいいわ
自分の中では1番ジョジョって感じ
変な言い方だけど
car mix それ。4部でボケてたときは悲しかった
ある意味ジョースター家の中ではジョルノと同じくイレギュラーな存在かも
car mix ジョセフが1番いいな笑
4部ジョセフってスージーQと一緒に老いて死ぬために波紋で若さを保たないんでしょ…泣ける
柳川だよ それ公式じゃないけどね