I feel like here E&C are the epitome of right person but wrong time. I would have never expected to think that having privacy during your own LGBT awakening process to be a luxury but in Charlotte's case that's what it is, thanks to the fame actually happening all of the sudden she lost her right to discover herself at her own pace. She has been asked to justify every tiny thing she ever said or done, when in reality the majority of us in the queer community know how hard it can be to go through the self acceptance stage and actually how Big of a step it can be the first one to take into your first same sex relationship! The fact that so many in the fandom seems to be so dismissive of her own needs is pretty irritating to me, because we should be more sympathetic. As cheese as it can sound even in today's society be openly gay is a step by step path that can't be rushed or dictated by anyone else. So the one and only thing I will reproach to Engfa is the way she seems to need Charlotte to have a gf or something to be considered a "real" queer person. But I think that some of that came from a place of deep hurt so I will not take her dismissiveness as her real feeling on said matter. What I will not pass on is that that's also what Charlotte's haters keep saying to this day, because that's pure ignorance to me, that's the same logic homophobic people's use to try to convince the gays that they just need to find someone of the opposite sex or "try it" to change their own sexuality! Engfa need all the hugs in the world, I will never understand how she can be both this genuinely hurt and still have all that other thing going on at the same time. I feel like she was on pure coping mechanism at the time so she got interested in someone that was giving her what she was lacking and that's ok, everyone has their own needs, only it is sad because it is clear as the day that she has stronger feeling for Charlotte than she has ever let out. I noticed that other than calling Charlotte consistently her sister she also has used a lot of humor while flirting. Most of the times, excluding when she gets serious in this live, when she talk with Charlotte I can notice the actual intention of seriously flirt but she cover it almost alway..be it say something and retract right after, or using her alter-ego persona to make it sound like a joke, or attaching the sister a second later or even flirting with someone else right after have said something to Charlotte, those are all things that I think added to the confusion and miscommunication between them. Like you said so well, I will also never understand why some people think that it is their priority to have Englot becoming real, is not your life so just let them be. We all will be happy to see them together but dang don't make it sound like your life depends on it because in actuality it is a lie, you are not one of them so how can you act more slighted, hurt, angry or upset than they will ever be?!? Makes no sense 🤣
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 This is the one. I completely agree. I could go on and on about this topic but I feel like I should do a live instead of a RUclips video because I prefer it to be a discussion and not me just preaching 😂 I think I’ll go live this weekend
@@vickyreacts aaaah yeah!!!!! what a good news, hopefully I will be able to catch the live because till now the time difference has been brutally unforgiven to me, just go live when it is better for everyone I only hope to be able to be part of it because that's a conversation I really don't want to miss
Never said better! My biggest pet peeve is when people say C's "playing with E's feeling" and that she's "straight" ?!? As if her own words and feelings have no significance simply because she's not going all out like they want?! Same thing as people shipping Engfa with any and every breathing female that looks her way then saying they ship it cause "E deserves someone who's sure about her and what they want"...Bruh, she doesn't seem too sure herself?!?✊🏼🥲#relatable They've said multiple times already that we never know what's ahead and that the right person will always be the right person, so can't we just let them be, enjoy what we get to witness(we are lucky they share so much to begin with) and go do something else other than wanting to control other people's life?
Engfa went from hurt to I gotta get this off my chest lol her true thoughts came to light in that live. I always knew she was just saying things to make Char feel comfortable. I wish i could mentor her because I can tell her experiences are not many. ❤
100000% I feel the same. That’s why I always try to help people that are struggling with their sexuality or those that are new to the community. It’s better to have someone to talk to that’s been through it already.
Char will always be so hesitant because from the start shes painted Engfa as a flirt. It'll be hard to allow herself to break down that barrier, especially knowing many people want her!
Seems like its cl's job to take care of her drunk friends😂😂😂 first engfa, the other night its nudee.. Can't imagine if both engfa and nudee get drunk at the same time..it'll be total chaos i guess..poor charlotte😂😂😂
I appreciate soooo much that you stop video and explain instead of talking on top of it and missing details like a lot of people that do reactions do. I also appreciate you not cutting out any bits of video. I feel like after all of this things were so awkward up to the concert day and after that day things changed so freaking much. Felt like someone was driving car super fast from all of it, things snapped and car made a full on speed turn back. But anywaaay, thanks for reaction and I hope you're doing well!😌
I reall like all the things you pointed out on the last part of your video. Hopefully the new fans can watch this. During this drama happened, many fans have turned their backs on both of them. Many were mad at CL and many have blamed Engfa as well, but like what you said their reactions were normal because they just reacted based on their perspective. And besides it was true that they made it clear from the start that they were only sisters. And as fans we have no right to force them to do things just to satisfy ourselves. ..again you did a great job on this. Thank you so much for your time and effort making this video.
Ngl when I saw engfas live I was like damnnnn she is this bold now???? Also as someone with depression/anxiety I know what she's feeling (loneliness) but looking for someone for that reason, will put on them your mentally stability even if you don't want to and that's never a good thing. I'm glad boss help her find a phycologist cause I feel she hold on to the first person who showed her interest in an intense/consistent way. I do believe that Engfa still have feelings for Charlotte, she got flustered with char when she was talking with this person and now she still does. I hope in the future they can be more open and communicate better, maybe the series will help.
At that time, Char didn't know Engfa was in her fandom chat group. She was in disguise, but eventually, fans caught her😂. And yes, that's the legend of "EF". Also much, much later, Engfa told Char about this, on that day, fans even sent Char screenshots as evidence. Engfa was so embarrassed,😂 the video clip is there in HT2 later eps.
I agree to all that you've said. When i first saw this video, i felt bad for the both of them. Engfa was hurt but im sure that it was not easy for Cl as well. This is indeed an emotional roller coster for both englot and fans. But like what you've said, this conflict must need to be done or else their friendship/relationship would be boring. Thank goodness i stayed and continuously supporting them...now they're making progress little by little.
I think that Engfa categorizes themselves "sisters" because Charlotte uses this term even if we all know Engfa would like to have more than a sisters relationship, but I think Engfa is afraid that saying clearly she wants more to Charlotte, their relationship would not be as close as it is anymore, however I think Charlotte wants her to say it clear and she says by words that they are sisters but with behaviour we see something else. That's why I agree that they should tell clearly themselves what they feel... maybe they did but publicly they wants to stay "sisters" 🤔
@@vickyreacts ofcourse I'm excited! 🤣🤣🤣 hell yea you know your reaction are fantastic! 😜 I was gona go to sleep (it's just passed 10pm here in Toronto)..and saw you uploaded and all of a sudden I was wide awake like"👀wtf is sleep?🤣" ! I hope you've had a great week thus far❤ Looking forward to the next live, they're super fun!🤟🤘🥰
@@vickyreacts Honestly the sleep deprivation is worth it to watch this before I officially sleep hahah! Yoooo great react Vicky! This one was deep..and I absolutely get it, I can relate to this in ways also..what they are going through is fair and this does take time absolutely 💯. Sweeet sounds good for the live this weekend girl! One of these times on live I'll jump on with you if you're having people up with you! 🥰 maybe not this weekend (though I'll be there), but another after that! I'm glad you love going live! It's seriously a good time..I love doing lives myself also it's been a while though 🤣. Gives a chance for us to all connect. It's great and I'm glad we make you laugh! We got a great community you've built up this far, proud of you!😁❤️❤️
Hey! I commented on the last video about Tina's thoughts. I replied to a comment you posted on a previous video about what your father said and I said I would explain it to you once you got to the point. Basically a few afters Charlotte's live Tina tweeted "you can lie to yourself/your heart but you can't lie to the whole world"
I agree with everything you said Vicky, they are meant to be together, Engfa believes in fate, it was meant for them to come into each others life. I support them. They'll be fine❤!❤❤❤
I think when Engfa asked Char who am to you that was her asking do you see me as more than a sister. And since Char didn’t make it clear Engfa put the label sister on her until it was more clear to her herself what she wanted Char to be. when something is not clear to us we tend to say anything that makes sense until it becomes more clear to us. *Does that make sense*
That time, I watched them sadly. This time, I watched your reaction of them and still felt sad although their situation is kinda sweet today 🥲🥲 Like, no one is wrong. I respect both CL and EF, and sympathise for EF too. And, it's sad that some fans presured EF to talk on live on this topic on and on. Cant they see how hurt EF was? My heart 😢😢
Been waiting on this reaction specifically. The way you see it and explained is precise💯💯. Ps love your reactions very much waiting on the next episode ❤❤💯💯😊😊sending you much love 😊😊❤❤
Thank you so much for your words, seriously everyone should learn from what you’re saying lmao, some might say this is “just a reaction” but actually some words you said have really helped me so thank you
when engfa joined her fan line chat group with username EF char doesn’t know it yet and everyone that it was Engfa. that was before they started talking on live i think.
41:00 She says all that but when another girl fitting all those criterias shows up she's not that into them, if at all?!🤔 The math isn't mathing...🤡Miss Ma'am?
Englot summary: "If you're not in a hurry to somewhere else, stay and be my happiness for a long time" is literally how Charlotte feels/wants "Turns out they're in a hurry" is Engfa at is finest. That's their whole thing.
Exactly ..and they're only 3 months in after winning the crown...they were roommates,what..couple of weeks?month?I like how Char summarised it.Thats all she's asking..patience has its virtue.Sometimes,I feel the need to give EF a slap around..fans and audiences will feel frustrated with this one!
Its like watching movie, the movie never change.... just now you have friend that stating different perspectives and its like open my eyes that same movie says a lot.
I was in this exact situation. And even the same ages. It was 10 yrs ago. I had never thought about my sexuality. I always like men but knew around my preteens that I found women very intriguing and beautiful. In my early 20's I started to feel that was in the LBGTQ+ community. So at 27 when a new secretary, 23 started working at the law firm I worked for, things changed. I was drawn to her immediately. Right away told myself, it was because I just wanted to know her and be friends. Turns out. She was just as draw to me, and we became friends almost instantly. Even very early on, discussing becoming roommates. As the months went on, we started doing everything together, and coworkers took notices. She was always flirting with me. And in time I would flirt back. After a year and an ugly fight, we got into with her boss, she quit. The next day she tells me "When you are around, I only pay attention to you." More than once had she said things of this nature but played it off as jokes. We also called each other wifey. She moved back to her city and we stayed connected but lost touch 2 yrs ago, while she was dealing with a toxic relationship. Only after she left did I realize, I was in fact in love with her, and I believe she was as well. Two weeks ago she text me. She is still with that toxic partner, and they are having a baby. I'm crushed. I do wish her well, but it hurts knowing we missed our change because we never truly stated how we felt. And that was not ready at the time. Doesn't help that she is still a flirt. I feel for these two. I know now at 37...Meeting the right person, but it being the wrong time is tough! Sorry, this was a lot. lol
Hey Britney ❤️ First of all don’t apologize for leaving a long message. Thank you for sharing your story. It’s a difficult thing to do especially when the wounds are so freshly reopened. I’m sorry you are dealing with this but please know it’s okay to put yourself first. Protect your energy and your mental health. I hope you don’t become the shoulder to cry on because she can’t lean onto her partner to take care of her as they should. Emotional attachment is hard to break but like I said, sometimes we need to put ourselves first. This is a tough situation. I wish you the best! I’m here if you want to talk.
@@vickyreacts HI Vicky, I really appreciate you responding. 💛 It's means a lot. I truly do have to remember to put myself first, when it comes to her. I had become her shoulder to cry on and the one she looked to for advice. I don't think I have the capacity for it this time around. I agreed to make candles for her baby shower in a few months which I'm already having second thoughts about lol. You are so right on how it can be hard to break the emotional ties.Hope you are having blessed day.
Hey Vicky! How's everything going these days because you've been very busy but we appreciate your constant effort to put out videos for us. As soon as I saw this posted I just thought "let's get this over with" because I knew you were going to break down and I was ready. Also, I just wanted to get through this time because this genuinely was, along with that period about two weeks ago, the worst it gets. I won't say much regarding this episode as it's very clear there was some tension, but what made it seem weird was the practice for Engfa's concert was literally days after the MadameFin event. In other words, it was the ig lives following that when Charlotte was talking about her current mindset and feelings in which the mood was based off of. Side note - many of your guesses regarding their feelings and how they were subtweeting are correct, which is why I keep saying they need time. Charlotte needs time in the sense of she wants to be very sure with her feelings before engaging in any relationship beyond platonic with anyone, and Engfa needs time, in my opinion, to figure out what she wants. I don't mean this in a disrespectful manner but I feel that during this time, and in recent times, Engfa seems to contradict much of what she says but perhaps unknowingly. There's nothing wrong at all with having a change of heart and mind, I do feel as though Engfa isn't too sure of what she wants. This is just my opinion, I in no way, shape, or form state these as facts. Another side note - I agree fully with your statements about being LGBTQIA+ and not having experience - everyone is valid. As I stated before, I choose to refrain saying much about this time because I have learned a bit more following this episode and trust me when I say you will too lol. Thank you for another video and I look forward to the next one!
Hey Si Si! Life is good. Bussssssyyyyy but good. Thank you for always saying you appreciate my efforts. I appreciate you appreciating me lol I feel you. Having to relive negative emotions can be so draining. Thank you for supporting me though and watching the video. You didn’t have to. I would have understood if you had to skip this one. Whhhhhhaaaaaaatt? I guess because I took a min to react to these episodes after the MadameFin lives, I just assumed it was at least 2 weeks later. Days?! So they really brought the fandom up really high just very suddenly go down. No wonder it was such a 🎢 roller coaster. I’m going to start needing dates for all of this because that’s crazy. Having a good timeline will also help put things into perspective for me. I’ll have to research. 100% they just need time, as individuals and time together in order to figure it all out. Thank you for the comment! See you in the next one 😊❤️
11:30 Why do a lot of their moments seem to be foreshadowing things that "haven't happened yet"? With new "characters" popping up out of(aparently) nowhere or suddenly gaining more "screen time", their song choices that seem to fit their situation like it was written just for them and other almost surreal things that happen to them makes me question that crazy theory of a simulation 🙃If I ever end up at an asylum, this will be one of the many pre-established reasons...The other one will be that I started believing I'm Rihanna, from how much I love the way they lie🤡
I think Engfa wanted to say that Charlie is straight but couldn't say it directly. It's not that you've date or haven't date a girl. Just one of Engfa's arguments that Charlie is straight that she has never date a girl = she does not have romantic feelings for her. After all, Charlie said she was open to LGBT people but being open is not equal to being part of LGBT. Maybe Charlie tried, but in the end there is nothing, she is straight. Engfa said this so that people would stop writing that Charlie was to blame. After all, Charlie can't be to blame, orientation is not chosen. Sorry for my English, i have tried my best
also, the concept of a sister in asian culture is a little different. you can perceive it simply as a close friend and not focus on relatives. it seems that in america they use bro as a friend too
yes exactly...i mean we're not charlotte, but i also always thought that she's straight, even in her interviews she's always said that she's more leaning towards guys or that she's never had a romantic feelings towards girls. Although we don't know if it might change in the future, but to me she's very much straight lol or maybe she just in denial
Exactlyyy!! Thank you. I wish you watched and posted this in real time bc a lot of people were so pissed at Charlotte when I’m pretty sure it was Engfa who started the whole you’re my sister thing (correct me if i’m wrong). Charlotte admired E for a long time and even commented the drooling emoji on E’s thirst trap pic on a motorcycle before💀 lol so I like what you said about why she follows her tiktok..what’s educational about those lip syncing smirking to good music vids😂😂😂 like not even following ya girl marima?? Both of these girls just needed everything spelled out for them or else it’s getting nowhere lol. Have to remember it’s their lives and they’re not watching it like us picking up on all the body language and seeing how they react to each other etc so it must look really different to them. hope you watched 49 already bc it’s a trip. Grab a drink we’re all just tryna make Charlotte fold 😂
I kind of wish I was with you all for this whole ride and not several months behind. I’m not saying that my thinking is correct but I think having a different perspective could have helped the people that were angry and confused. 🤤 Drooling emoji?! Whhhaaaaaaaaaat? I need to see this for myself 😂 That’s very true. We get to pause, rewind, and slow down moments. They don’t. So it’s understandable that they don’t see what we see.
Rewatching this again has made me confirm that Engfa and Charlotte were right for each but the timing was wrong. Somehow Engfa kind of predicted the future when she said "a don't like now may turn to alike next year. With what's happening right now, I have come to realize that we can never escape, outrun or fall behind destiny. It has to be right on the set time
1:17:37 she definitely has though HT had more information in these damn videos and going into deep about the situation with both them doing they lives about how they felt and everything and E was flirting hard body and we definitely can’t forget when she was drunk too cause a drunken mind speaks sober thoughts I always thought she was more open about her feelings. But I also understood why Char said no cause the fans are toxic and she’s not sure if she’s being influenced to like E or if she just genuinely likes her all I know is a lot changed after these episodes 😵💫💔.
I always like listening to your take on their situation, very interesting and you always hit the bull's eye about them especially when you get to the newer videos. I kinda agree with you though, this drama has been too much for others but it shouldn't have been that serious because it was just a phase, the other fans made a huge deal out of this that they started hating them, leaving the fandom and all that. Like, if you can't love them for who they are, just leave, we don't need you. That's why in the future videos they were like time will filter out those who loves us as who we are and those who are only here because of the ship. I'm looking forward to your reaction on the next episode, 49, because that episode really made it clear to me that I will love and support them for whatever relationship that they have and whatever they are to each other. I don't know about the others but after 49, after that concert, I love them even more and not only the ship but them as individuals too.
🥰 Thank you. I’m glad you like my point of view. 🫶🏼 That’s crazy they had people start hating them over this. 😧 I hope they have more compassion with their friends, family, children in their real life because 😮💨 wow. It’s true. They say you find out who your real friends are in the bad times because everyone come around for the good times. Oooooooooo now I’m really looking forward to ep 49!
@@vickyreacts Me to those "fans" who suddenly started hating them after being given with Englot's statement: touch some grass people 🤡 Don't come at them, they don't deserve the hate just because they were stating their feelings 🤧 I like 49, it may not be as spicy as the other videos but I genuinely like the concert moments.
I’ve watched this and the last episode now several times and I agree with your advice. I came to this through ENGFA, I love everything about her, and fell into the ship with all of you. However, I must say that I’m Team Charlotte on this one. Engfa went after her in the beginning hard, but throughout the relationship, I think Engfa has been inconsistent about the development. It’s very clear that she doesn’t treat Charlotte like the other girls-even to the point of being more playful with them-but she doesn’t do that to Charlotte. Instead, she makes these grand gestures on stage so it seems like it could be a strategy. I’m sorry but she has not fully clarified her relationship or intentions to Charlotte at the point of this episode and it caused a real communication issue between them. As a lesbian myself, I understand that Engfa is afraid of being hurt by a curious “straight” girl, but I’m not sure that Charlotte was playing her. Looking at this with hindsight, I do believe that things have changed, but if you notice, Charlotte has all but publicly committed and Engfa is still hesitant. She needs to come clean and clearly express her intent-also, I think she bears a little more responsibility for the communication because she is older and more mature. Regardless of where they come out, I hope they find love and happiness.
I haven’t been able to watch anything but your reactions for the past few days 😂 But anyways. You said you went through something comparable and can relate, I did/do too. I’ve been best friends with someone since forever and we had something many years ago. We’ve both had girlfriends since then and we’ve both moved to different countries or different cities and have stayed very good friends. The thing is I’ve never stopped having feelings and she’s never stopped flirting with me. Confusing! I guess that’s why I’m so obsessed with this ship! 😅
Thank you for the support! I’m sorry you’ve had to deal with that. I hope you can get some closure or answers soon. I know that weird limbo area is tough to get out of ❤️🙏🏼
Rushing into a relationship wit someone just coming out makes them uncomfortable with the people around them or just shelter herself so Rushing a woman to be in your lifestyle will only hinder them but flirting wit all these other girls to substitute for the woman you love it won't work
I love #englot and all but I'm kind of rooting for #engtey, Engfa and Pichvotey ( Miss Cambodia). She definitely Engfa type, Bold, Clingy and affectionate. And Engfa has been flirting with her lots recently
Don't let these fans dictate how you both are supposed to be, sometimes some of these fans need to leave their opinions to themselves. Really they do! But no matter what I wish them both the best of luck and oneday they realize it was meant to be.
52:10 ahaha confusing, P'Fa contradicting previous statements about having to meet again with an ex or with an ex ahahaha I really don't know how to explain it, but I hope ya'll get what I mean , MORE ALCOHOL please, truth will come out Ooops ahahaha🤣✌
Knowing their situation now and watching it again alot of things make more sense. Charlotte going live, saying what she said it is all bc of another love intrest of Engfa. She already knew about Tina and she wanted to be the only interest and needed more time. On the other hand Engfa is wanting someone who is sure. For me Enga did give more mixed signals bc Charlotte was just following her lead. Again we don't know everything behind cameras we can only assume. We will see what future brings especially now after that long break of not seeing each other. Them filming soon is gonna be telling and I am really excited to see their interaction.
The Tina thing was after the concert/concert day. Some fans said that, that day was when Tina started being intense towards Engfa. On the other hand I don't think is about Engfa wanting someone to be sure more of so she just hold on to someone who approach her cause of her loneliness. There's a reason why boss ask her to go with a phycologist.
@@dipuomkwanazi3119 oh by the way is not top 10 finalist Tina. Is another one, Tina suppand (an actress/youtuber). Non of them said anything. I'm not sure if u are fill in with the drama cause it was long but also is already over so yeahp
So doing a rewatch of your videos i can see where the miscommunication happens if we go back to the beginning char asks Fa not to flirt when they meet in public i think thats also why fa said she wouldn't flirt with her but then char started flirting first and when fa would flirt back then char would step back and it goes like this up till that point in the live where one would start the flirting thing first then they would go back and forth till one of them back off i also think the pressure from the fandom played a part in it so i can see both pov yeah sure char was under the impression that they where sisters and didn't know fa was flirting fr but i think with the HILOT thing that may have had a part in it but char did say out her own mouth that she feels different with fa then HILOT the problem on chars is she seemed to give fa hope by doing stuff that ain't sisterly at all. And Fa who kinda let char take the lead on where they stood (when char was the first to call her sister) instead of declaring that she wanted more because fa was so afraid of over stepping and putting to much added pressure on her that she said one thing to make her comfortable but showed something entirely different in the end it was one big miscommunication and something that should've been talk about and maybe they did off cam who knows like fa said we have no idea what they do BTS
Honestly Vicky, most of the categorizations of Charlotte as Fa's sister happened before reporters or before fans as a way to take some of the pressure off of how intensely they were shipped and probably because Charlotte hadn't yet figured out her feelings. Freen and Becky do the same thing. For me, that's not so much the issue as, unlike Freen and Becky, as you've noted, there doesn't seem to be any behind-the-scenes clarification. like they're both scared to rock the boat so they just leave things as they are. That's what's really hurting them.
I think apart of the reason they originally started saying sister is because of the drama they have been getting because the whole lgbt joining the pageant, cause it’s still not acceptable with some parts of Thailand and persons.
@@vickyreacts that sister thing is like a culture thing like koreans, its hard to explain english, its not may first language. But I'm not sure though lol.
@@angelajose7809 I agreed. How should I said it. Like in Thai industry, from what i have seen actors and actresses when they are in a relationship/talking phase in front of the public they would call each other siblings until they both agreed to come out said they are seeing each other.
@@vickyreacts idk how to explain it but at first I was confused too. Its like a hierarchy lol. If that person was born 1st you need to respect her/him/they. You need to used a "respectful/polite or honorific" words first and then if you are close enough you will ask a permission to drop the honorific language.
I'm still confused as to why Engfa says. " She's not 100% LGBTQ" like no bro Char is part of the community, she's just in. I'm starting to think maybe the labels people know about different sexual orientations are kinda wrong
Btw, I started watching the videos with no pretenses of believing the hype. I really did think it was queer baiting and fan service, but damn! It definitely isn’t! Wish I could slap them both to wake them up!
I don't even think we need a series anymore because this drama right here!! This drama that's going on, I don't think a series could even be as juicy, weird, mental. The sister thing is about to make me go mental. When someone says the word sister again one of them need to turn around and say, " are u sure??.
I feel like here E&C are the epitome of right person but wrong time.
I would have never expected to think that having privacy during your own LGBT awakening process to be a luxury but in Charlotte's case that's what it is, thanks to the fame actually happening all of the sudden she lost her right to discover herself at her own pace. She has been asked to justify every tiny thing she ever said or done, when in reality the majority of us in the queer community know how hard it can be to go through the self acceptance stage and actually how Big of a step it can be the first one to take into your first same sex relationship! The fact that so many in the fandom seems to be so dismissive of her own needs is pretty irritating to me, because we should be more sympathetic. As cheese as it can sound even in today's society be openly gay is a step by step path that can't be rushed or dictated by anyone else. So the one and only thing I will reproach to Engfa is the way she seems to need Charlotte to have a gf or something to be considered a "real" queer person. But I think that some of that came from a place of deep hurt so I will not take her dismissiveness as her real feeling on said matter. What I will not pass on is that that's also what Charlotte's haters keep saying to this day, because that's pure ignorance to me, that's the same logic homophobic people's use to try to convince the gays that they just need to find someone of the opposite sex or "try it" to change their own sexuality!
Engfa need all the hugs in the world, I will never understand how she can be both this genuinely hurt and still have all that other thing going on at the same time. I feel like she was on pure coping mechanism at the time so she got interested in someone that was giving her what she was lacking and that's ok, everyone has their own needs, only it is sad because it is clear as the day that she has stronger feeling for Charlotte than she has ever let out. I noticed that other than calling Charlotte consistently her sister she also has used a lot of humor while flirting. Most of the times, excluding when she gets serious in this live, when she talk with Charlotte I can notice the actual intention of seriously flirt but she cover it almost alway..be it say something and retract right after, or using her alter-ego persona to make it sound like a joke, or attaching the sister a second later or even flirting with someone else right after have said something to Charlotte, those are all things that I think added to the confusion and miscommunication between them.
Like you said so well, I will also never understand why some people think that it is their priority to have Englot becoming real, is not your life so just let them be. We all will be happy to see them together but dang don't make it sound like your life depends on it because in actuality it is a lie, you are not one of them so how can you act more slighted, hurt, angry or upset than they will ever be?!? Makes no sense 🤣
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This is the one. I completely agree. I could go on and on about this topic but I feel like I should do a live instead of a RUclips video because I prefer it to be a discussion and not me just preaching 😂 I think I’ll go live this weekend
@@vickyreacts aaaah yeah!!!!! what a good news, hopefully I will be able to catch the live because till now the time difference has been brutally unforgiven to me, just go live when it is better for everyone I only hope to be able to be part of it because that's a conversation I really don't want to miss
Never said better!
My biggest pet peeve is when people say C's "playing with E's feeling" and that she's "straight" ?!? As if her own words and feelings have no significance simply because she's not going all out like they want?! Same thing as people shipping Engfa with any and every breathing female that looks her way then saying they ship it cause "E deserves someone who's sure about her and what they want"...Bruh, she doesn't seem too sure herself?!?✊🏼🥲#relatable
They've said multiple times already that we never know what's ahead and that the right person will always be the right person, so can't we just let them be, enjoy what we get to witness(we are lucky they share so much to begin with) and go do something else other than wanting to control other people's life?
Engfa went from hurt to I gotta get this off my chest lol her true thoughts came to light in that live. I always knew she was just saying things to make Char feel comfortable. I wish i could mentor her because I can tell her experiences are not many. ❤
100000% I feel the same. That’s why I always try to help people that are struggling with their sexuality or those that are new to the community. It’s better to have someone to talk to that’s been through it already.
Her longest is 3 months🙄..she even said can't call it dating more like "talking" and she left her because she wasn't sure about herself.
Char will always be so hesitant because from the start shes painted Engfa as a flirt. It'll be hard to allow herself to break down that barrier, especially knowing many people want her!
@Cynthia D 'cause she's never dated the same sex before. They need to sit and talk about their feelings truly.
Engfa is a flirt! She admitted that to the whole fandom. Charlotte is protecting her heart.
Char is a flirt to i think ppl tend to forget that they both are huge flirts they themselves even admitted
Seems like its cl's job to take care of her drunk friends😂😂😂 first engfa, the other night its nudee.. Can't imagine if both engfa and nudee get drunk at the same time..it'll be total chaos i guess..poor charlotte😂😂😂
It's crazy how on concert day they acted like none of these lives ever happened 🤣
Literally had the shippers up and down
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@@vickyreacts you’ll see
But after the more then love song Charlotte was a bit shakey asking for a hug
@@nosiphomkhabela6226 if I'm not wrong i think that hug was planned, saw in that rehersal video.
I appreciate soooo much that you stop video and explain instead of talking on top of it and missing details like a lot of people that do reactions do. I also appreciate you not cutting out any bits of video.
I feel like after all of this things were so awkward up to the concert day and after that day things changed so freaking much. Felt like someone was driving car super fast from all of it, things snapped and car made a full on speed turn back.
But anywaaay, thanks for reaction and I hope you're doing well!😌
🥰🥰🥰🥰 Thank you!!
it’s crazy how after this everything gets crazy in a good way 😂😂
I reall like all the things you pointed out on the last part of your video. Hopefully the new fans can watch this. During this drama happened, many fans have turned their backs on both of them. Many were mad at CL and many have blamed Engfa as well, but like what you said their reactions were normal because they just reacted based on their perspective. And besides it was true that they made it clear from the start that they were only sisters. And as fans we have no right to force them to do things just to satisfy ourselves. ..again you did a great job on this. Thank you so much for your time and effort making this video.
Ngl when I saw engfas live I was like damnnnn she is this bold now????
Also as someone with depression/anxiety I know what she's feeling (loneliness) but looking for someone for that reason, will put on them your mentally stability even if you don't want to and that's never a good thing. I'm glad boss help her find a phycologist cause I feel she hold on to the first person who showed her interest in an intense/consistent way. I do believe that Engfa still have feelings for Charlotte, she got flustered with char when she was talking with this person and now she still does.
I hope in the future they can be more open and communicate better, maybe the series will help.
At that time, Char didn't know Engfa was in her fandom chat group. She was in disguise, but eventually, fans caught her😂. And yes, that's the legend of "EF". Also much, much later, Engfa told Char about this, on that day, fans even sent Char screenshots as evidence. Engfa was so embarrassed,😂 the video clip is there in HT2 later eps.
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March: E was in her DM fandom🤣🤣🤣 sneaky looking
Right! Like 👀 whatcha up to….
Me the entire video: "PREACH" "RIGHT??" "OMG That's what I'm saying" "you're soo right" 😂😂😂😂😂
the refreshing ur yt channel every five minutes was worth it lmao
😂😂😂😂😂 Omg I love the energy. ❤️
this breakdown was everything!!! Love this video!
🥰 Thank you!!
I enjoy this reaction so much 1 hour long I loved every second of it. Can't wait for episode 49.
🫶🏼 Thank you! 😊
@@vickyreacts prepare yourself for ep 49
I agree to all that you've said. When i first saw this video, i felt bad for the both of them. Engfa was hurt but im sure that it was not easy for Cl as well. This is indeed an emotional roller coster for both englot and fans. But like what you've said, this conflict must need to be done or else their friendship/relationship would be boring. Thank goodness i stayed and continuously supporting them...now they're making progress little by little.
OMG. I can't wait more to see your reaction to Ep 49. This ep is really crazy 😂
This hour video made my nights 😂 felt like I was watching an englot movie ❤
Engfa is playing safe by calling her sister. But as the days goes by, developed her feelings n grows everyday most especially doing the series..💙
just finished watching the episode and I 100% fully agree with what you said..
I think that Engfa categorizes themselves "sisters" because Charlotte uses this term even if we all know Engfa would like to have more than a sisters relationship, but I think Engfa is afraid that saying clearly she wants more to Charlotte, their relationship would not be as close as it is anymore, however I think Charlotte wants her to say it clear and she says by words that they are sisters but with behaviour we see something else. That's why I agree that they should tell clearly themselves what they feel... maybe they did but publicly they wants to stay "sisters" 🤔
WOOOH hour and a half😍😍 AYAYAY!! I'm so excited lmao! Let's goo bb! ❤
😂😂😂🤟🏼 I’m glad you’re excited. 🙏🏼
@@vickyreacts ofcourse I'm excited! 🤣🤣🤣 hell yea you know your reaction are fantastic! 😜 I was gona go to sleep (it's just passed 10pm here in Toronto)..and saw you uploaded and all of a sudden I was wide awake like"👀wtf is sleep?🤣" !
I hope you've had a great week thus far❤ Looking forward to the next live, they're super fun!🤟🤘🥰
@@saratatty Not the sleep deprivation! 😂 Yes I’ll go live again probably this weekend. I love them too. You guys are hilarious 😁❤️
@@vickyreacts Honestly the sleep deprivation is worth it to watch this before I officially sleep hahah! Yoooo great react Vicky! This one was deep..and I absolutely get it, I can relate to this in ways also..what they are going through is fair and this does take time absolutely 💯.
Sweeet sounds good for the live this weekend girl! One of these times on live I'll jump on with you if you're having people up with you! 🥰 maybe not this weekend (though I'll be there), but another after that!
I'm glad you love going live! It's seriously a good time..I love doing lives myself also it's been a while though 🤣. Gives a chance for us to all connect. It's great and I'm glad we make you laugh! We got a great community you've built up this far, proud of you!😁❤️❤️
hey Sara!
Wow….,, the way you explain things…. On point. I hope the next video is more than 2hours
Thank you! 🥰
2 hours 😳😂 We’ll see. I don’t even know how long it is but you never know, it could be lol
Hey! I commented on the last video about Tina's thoughts. I replied to a comment you posted on a previous video about what your father said and I said I would explain it to you once you got to the point. Basically a few afters Charlotte's live Tina tweeted "you can lie to yourself/your heart but you can't lie to the whole world"
👀😯 Wow….Tina wasn’t playing! Did anyone ever address it?
Is she the only one that said anything?
@@vickyreacts I don't know if anyone else addressed her comment and if others spoke about it too
I agree with everything you said Vicky, they are meant to be together, Engfa believes in fate, it was meant for them to come into each others life. I support them. They'll be fine❤!❤❤❤
I think when Engfa asked Char who am to you that was her asking do you see me as more than a sister. And since Char didn’t make it clear Engfa put the label sister on her until it was more clear to her herself what she wanted Char to be. when something is not clear to us we tend to say anything that makes sense until it becomes more clear to us. *Does that make sense*
Who am I to you^*
That time, I watched them sadly.
This time, I watched your reaction of them and still felt sad although their situation is kinda sweet today 🥲🥲
Like, no one is wrong. I respect both CL and EF, and sympathise for EF too. And, it's sad that some fans presured EF to talk on live on this topic on and on. Cant they see how hurt EF was? My heart 😢😢
You will see how obvious their awkwardness was the very next day. And then boom after that day, they acted like nothing had happened.
This is reality for most of us..... and I really appreciate you touching on it.
keep going, I love all of them and I really like you so much
Awwww thank you Kim! Welcome to the channel! I’m glad you like what I have to say. Thank you for supporting me ❤️🙏🏼
51:00 omg someone that understands 👏🏾👏🏾
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Been waiting on this reaction specifically. The way you see it and explained is precise💯💯. Ps love your reactions very much waiting on the next episode ❤❤💯💯😊😊sending you much love 😊😊❤❤
Awwww thank you Diana! 🫶🏼🥰🙏🏼 See you in the next episode!
Thank you so much for your words, seriously everyone should learn from what you’re saying lmao, some might say this is “just a reaction” but actually some words you said have really helped me so thank you
I’m really glad some things resonated with you ❤️
when engfa joined her fan line chat group with username EF char doesn’t know it yet and everyone that it was Engfa. that was before they started talking on live i think.
She thought she was being sneaky but the fans caught on 😂
41:00 She says all that but when another girl fitting all those criterias shows up she's not that into them, if at all?!🤔 The math isn't mathing...🤡Miss Ma'am?
Yess I can never get enough of ur vids!!
🥰🥰🥰 Thank you 🫶🏼❤️
now it is very clear that E loves C very much...
Let me get the popcorn 🍿!! 😂😂 I’ll be back after I watch everything
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Englot summary:
"If you're not in a hurry to somewhere else, stay and be my happiness for a long time" is literally how Charlotte feels/wants
"Turns out they're in a hurry" is Engfa at is finest.
That's their whole thing.
Exactly ..and they're only 3 months in after winning the crown...they were roommates,what..couple of weeks?month?I like how Char summarised it.Thats all she's asking..patience has its virtue.Sometimes,I feel the need to give EF a slap around..fans and audiences will feel frustrated with this one!
Coming back today to watch it all over again
Its like watching movie, the movie never change.... just now you have friend that stating different perspectives and its like open my eyes that same movie says a lot.
I was in this exact situation. And even the same ages. It was 10 yrs ago. I had never thought about my sexuality. I always like men but knew around my preteens that I found women very intriguing and beautiful. In my early 20's I started to feel that was in the LBGTQ+ community. So at 27 when a new secretary, 23 started working at the law firm I worked for, things changed. I was drawn to her immediately. Right away told myself, it was because I just wanted to know her and be friends. Turns out. She was just as draw to me, and we became friends almost instantly. Even very early on, discussing becoming roommates.
As the months went on, we started doing everything together, and coworkers took notices. She was always flirting with me. And in time I would flirt back. After a year and an ugly fight, we got into with her boss, she quit. The next day she tells me "When you are around, I only pay attention to you." More than once had she said things of this nature but played it off as jokes. We also called each other wifey.
She moved back to her city and we stayed connected but lost touch 2 yrs ago, while she was dealing with a toxic relationship. Only after she left did I realize, I was in fact in love with her, and I believe she was as well. Two weeks ago she text me. She is still with that toxic partner, and they are having a baby. I'm crushed. I do wish her well, but it hurts knowing we missed our change because we never truly stated how we felt. And that was not ready at the time. Doesn't help that she is still a flirt.
I feel for these two. I know now at 37...Meeting the right person, but it being the wrong time is tough! Sorry, this was a lot. lol
Hey Britney ❤️ First of all don’t apologize for leaving a long message. Thank you for sharing your story. It’s a difficult thing to do especially when the wounds are so freshly reopened. I’m sorry you are dealing with this but please know it’s okay to put yourself first. Protect your energy and your mental health. I hope you don’t become the shoulder to cry on because she can’t lean onto her partner to take care of her as they should. Emotional attachment is hard to break but like I said, sometimes we need to put ourselves first. This is a tough situation. I wish you the best! I’m here if you want to talk.
@@vickyreacts HI Vicky, I really appreciate you responding. 💛
It's means a lot. I truly do have to remember to put myself first, when it comes to her. I had become her shoulder to cry on and the one she looked to for advice. I don't think I have the capacity for it this time around. I agreed to make candles for her baby shower in a few months which I'm already having second thoughts about lol. You are so right on how it can be hard to break the emotional ties.Hope you are having blessed day.
Vicky's thanks much love watching your RUclips Video. love it Really, Everytime.Englot episode daily ❤❤❤❤❤
Hey Vicky! How's everything going these days because you've been very busy but we appreciate your constant effort to put out videos for us.
As soon as I saw this posted I just thought "let's get this over with" because I knew you were going to break down and I was ready. Also, I just wanted to get through this time because this genuinely was, along with that period about two weeks ago, the worst it gets. I won't say much regarding this episode as it's very clear there was some tension, but what made it seem weird was the practice for Engfa's concert was literally days after the MadameFin event. In other words, it was the ig lives following that when Charlotte was talking about her current mindset and feelings in which the mood was based off of.
Side note - many of your guesses regarding their feelings and how they were subtweeting are correct, which is why I keep saying they need time. Charlotte needs time in the sense of she wants to be very sure with her feelings before engaging in any relationship beyond platonic with anyone, and Engfa needs time, in my opinion, to figure out what she wants. I don't mean this in a disrespectful manner but I feel that during this time, and in recent times, Engfa seems to contradict much of what she says but perhaps unknowingly. There's nothing wrong at all with having a change of heart and mind, I do feel as though Engfa isn't too sure of what she wants. This is just my opinion, I in no way, shape, or form state these as facts.
Another side note - I agree fully with your statements about being LGBTQIA+ and not having experience - everyone is valid.
As I stated before, I choose to refrain saying much about this time because I have learned a bit more following this episode and trust me when I say you will too lol. Thank you for another video and I look forward to the next one!
Hey Si Si! Life is good. Bussssssyyyyy but good. Thank you for always saying you appreciate my efforts. I appreciate you appreciating me lol
I feel you. Having to relive negative emotions can be so draining. Thank you for supporting me though and watching the video. You didn’t have to. I would have understood if you had to skip this one.
Whhhhhhaaaaaaatt? I guess because I took a min to react to these episodes after the MadameFin lives, I just assumed it was at least 2 weeks later. Days?! So they really brought the fandom up really high just very suddenly go down. No wonder it was such a 🎢 roller coaster. I’m going to start needing dates for all of this because that’s crazy. Having a good timeline will also help put things into perspective for me. I’ll have to research.
100% they just need time, as individuals and time together in order to figure it all out.
Thank you for the comment! See you in the next one 😊❤️
I enjoy hearing how you analysis relationships, these ladies
11:30 Why do a lot of their moments seem to be foreshadowing things that "haven't happened yet"?
With new "characters" popping up out of(aparently) nowhere or suddenly gaining more "screen time", their song choices that seem to fit their situation like it was written just for them and other almost surreal things that happen to them makes me question that crazy theory of a simulation 🙃If I ever end up at an asylum, this will be one of the many pre-established reasons...The other one will be that I started believing I'm Rihanna, from how much I love the way they lie🤡
Joey is one of my favorite Thai celebrities. She is so pretty and I heard she’s really nice.
I think Engfa wanted to say that Charlie is straight but couldn't say it directly.
It's not that you've date or haven't date a girl. Just one of Engfa's arguments that Charlie is straight that she has never date a girl = she does not have romantic feelings for her. After all, Charlie said she was open to LGBT people but being open is not equal to being part of LGBT. Maybe Charlie tried, but in the end there is nothing, she is straight. Engfa said this so that people would stop writing that Charlie was to blame. After all, Charlie can't be to blame, orientation is not chosen.
Sorry for my English, i have tried my best
also, the concept of a sister in asian culture is a little different. you can perceive it simply as a close friend and not focus on relatives. it seems that in america they use bro as a friend too
yes exactly...i mean we're not charlotte, but i also always thought that she's straight, even in her interviews she's always said that she's more leaning towards guys or that she's never had a romantic feelings towards girls. Although we don't know if it might change in the future, but to me she's very much straight lol or maybe she just in denial
i know this clip posted a long times ago but I clicked it to watched again today as of [March 4, 2024]!!!! Wow it's all true from Vicky's perspective
Exactlyyy!! Thank you. I wish you watched and posted this in real time bc a lot of people were so pissed at Charlotte when I’m pretty sure it was Engfa who started the whole you’re my sister thing (correct me if i’m wrong).
Charlotte admired E for a long time and even commented the drooling emoji on E’s thirst trap pic on a motorcycle before💀 lol so I like what you said about why she follows her tiktok..what’s educational about those lip syncing smirking to good music vids😂😂😂 like not even following ya girl marima??
Both of these girls just needed everything spelled out for them or else it’s getting nowhere lol. Have to remember it’s their lives and they’re not watching it like us picking up on all the body language and seeing how they react to each other etc so it must look really different to them.
hope you watched 49 already bc it’s a trip. Grab a drink we’re all just tryna make Charlotte fold 😂
I kind of wish I was with you all for this whole ride and not several months behind. I’m not saying that my thinking is correct but I think having a different perspective could have helped the people that were angry and confused.
🤤 Drooling emoji?! Whhhaaaaaaaaaat? I need to see this for myself 😂
That’s very true. We get to pause, rewind, and slow down moments. They don’t. So it’s understandable that they don’t see what we see.
Rewatching this again has made me confirm that Engfa and Charlotte were right for each but the timing was wrong. Somehow Engfa kind of predicted the future when she said "a don't like now may turn to alike next year. With what's happening right now, I have come to realize that we can never escape, outrun or fall behind destiny. It has to be right on the set time
Wow he quedado sorprendida con tu manera de pensar y analizar este "drama" Eng lot . Me ha gustado mucho 👏
1:17:37 she definitely has though HT had more information in these damn videos and going into deep about the situation with both them doing they lives about how they felt and everything and E was flirting hard body and we definitely can’t forget when she was drunk too cause a drunken mind speaks sober thoughts I always thought she was more open about her feelings. But I also understood why Char said no cause the fans are toxic and she’s not sure if she’s being influenced to like E or if she just genuinely likes her all I know is a lot changed after these episodes 😵💫💔.
I always like listening to your take on their situation, very interesting and you always hit the bull's eye about them especially when you get to the newer videos.
I kinda agree with you though, this drama has been too much for others but it shouldn't have been that serious because it was just a phase, the other fans made a huge deal out of this that they started hating them, leaving the fandom and all that.
Like, if you can't love them for who they are, just leave, we don't need you.
That's why in the future videos they were like time will filter out those who loves us as who we are and those who are only here because of the ship.
I'm looking forward to your reaction on the next episode, 49, because that episode really made it clear to me that I will love and support them for whatever relationship that they have and whatever they are to each other. I don't know about the others but after 49, after that concert, I love them even more and not only the ship but them as individuals too.
🥰 Thank you. I’m glad you like my point of view. 🫶🏼
That’s crazy they had people start hating them over this. 😧 I hope they have more compassion with their friends, family, children in their real life because 😮💨 wow. It’s true. They say you find out who your real friends are in the bad times because everyone come around for the good times.
Oooooooooo now I’m really looking forward to ep 49!
@@vickyreacts Me to those "fans" who suddenly started hating them after being given with Englot's statement: touch some grass people 🤡 Don't come at them, they don't deserve the hate just because they were stating their feelings 🤧
I like 49, it may not be as spicy as the other videos but I genuinely like the concert moments.
I’ve watched this and the last episode now several times and I agree with your advice. I came to this through ENGFA, I love everything about her, and fell into the ship with all of you. However, I must say that I’m Team Charlotte on this one. Engfa went after her in the beginning hard, but throughout the relationship, I think Engfa has been inconsistent about the development. It’s very clear that she doesn’t treat Charlotte like the other girls-even to the point of being more playful with them-but she doesn’t do that to Charlotte. Instead, she makes these grand gestures on stage so it seems like it could be a strategy. I’m sorry but she has not fully clarified her relationship or intentions to Charlotte at the point of this episode and it caused a real communication issue between them. As a lesbian myself, I understand that Engfa is afraid of being hurt by a curious “straight” girl, but I’m not sure that Charlotte was playing her. Looking at this with hindsight, I do believe that things have changed, but if you notice, Charlotte has all but publicly committed and Engfa is still hesitant. She needs to come clean and clearly express her intent-also, I think she bears a little more responsibility for the communication because she is older and more mature. Regardless of where they come out, I hope they find love and happiness.
I haven’t been able to watch anything but your reactions for the past few days 😂
But anyways. You said you went through something comparable and can relate, I did/do too. I’ve been best friends with someone since forever and we had something many years ago. We’ve both had girlfriends since then and we’ve both moved to different countries or different cities and have stayed very good friends. The thing is I’ve never stopped having feelings and she’s never stopped flirting with me. Confusing! I guess that’s why I’m so obsessed with this ship! 😅
Thank you for the support! I’m sorry you’ve had to deal with that. I hope you can get some closure or answers soon. I know that weird limbo area is tough to get out of ❤️🙏🏼
@@vickyreacts she’s visiting in July. Who knows? Maybe englot will give me some encouragement (or the opposite of that 😅)
Hey!! I can't believe I missed the second Live!! 😭. Had a ruff day/night
Big hugs!!!❤🥰
I’ll go live again soon. I’m sorry you had a rough day though. I hope you’re better now! ❤️
Hugs
Rushing into a relationship wit someone just coming out makes them uncomfortable with the people around them or just shelter herself so Rushing a woman to be in your lifestyle will only hinder them but flirting wit all these other girls to substitute for the woman you love it won't work
Ty Vicky for keeping it real!❤
I can't wait for the next episode. This couple is true not from the show Because I'm good for their fans. I miss you vicky 🥰
I want you to do a marathon when you watch a few in one video
This is such a trip to watch tonight after what happened with them this week. ❤
I love #englot and all but I'm kind of rooting for #engtey, Engfa and Pichvotey ( Miss Cambodia). She definitely Engfa type, Bold, Clingy and affectionate. And Engfa has been flirting with her lots recently
Engfa and (Miss Cambodia) Pichvotey Playlist:
Engfa is flirting with someone else now in Bali...Miss Cambodia has a huge crush on Engfa and is always hitting on her and Engfa flirts back:
Pichvotey flirting with Engfa at 1st Party: Start time 8:50 ruclips.net/video/F-c8EWgY16M/видео.html
Miss Cambodia calling Engfa Daddy: ruclips.net/user/shortsb1hYBUrRkxQ?feature=share
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Pt18: www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRHVayaj/
Pt19: www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRHVYve5/
Pt20: ruclips.net/video/Y_QkR_p9ZwM/видео.html
www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRHq3pVC/
Don't let these fans dictate how you both are supposed to be, sometimes some of these fans need to leave their opinions to themselves. Really they do! But no matter what I wish them both the best of luck and oneday they realize it was meant to be.
See englot and get relationship and life advices as well. Like I'm growing as a person as well 🤣 I am really happy that I found your account
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52:10 ahaha confusing, P'Fa contradicting previous statements about having to meet again with an ex or with an ex ahahaha I really don't know how to explain it, but I hope ya'll get what I mean , MORE ALCOHOL please, truth will come out Ooops ahahaha🤣✌
TIME WILL REVEAL
Ugh those momentssssss/dramas... .now it seems to be okay i think. Tomorrow the top 9 will be going to indonesia to support engfa.
Knowing their situation now and watching it again alot of things make more sense. Charlotte going live, saying what she said it is all bc of another love intrest of Engfa. She already knew about Tina and she wanted to be the only interest and needed more time. On the other hand Engfa is wanting someone who is sure. For me Enga did give more mixed signals bc Charlotte was just following her lead. Again we don't know everything behind cameras we can only assume. We will see what future brings especially now after that long break of not seeing each other. Them filming soon is gonna be telling and I am really excited to see their interaction.
Me am scared I feel like this ship is sinking
The Tina thing was after the concert/concert day. Some fans said that, that day was when Tina started being intense towards Engfa. On the other hand I don't think is about Engfa wanting someone to be sure more of so she just hold on to someone who approach her cause of her loneliness. There's a reason why boss ask her to go with a phycologist.
@@Ds-Ugi see Tina on the media what is going on is she talking about i don't understand
@@dipuomkwanazi3119 oh by the way is not top 10 finalist Tina. Is another one, Tina suppand (an actress/youtuber). Non of them said anything. I'm not sure if u are fill in with the drama cause it was long but also is already over so yeahp
Can you react to Heidi/Tina moments? Plssss🙏🏻
Btw I love your videos❤️!
So doing a rewatch of your videos i can see where the miscommunication happens if we go back to the beginning char asks Fa not to flirt when they meet in public i think thats also why fa said she wouldn't flirt with her but then char started flirting first and when fa would flirt back then char would step back and it goes like this up till that point in the live where one would start the flirting thing first then they would go back and forth till one of them back off i also think the pressure from the fandom played a part in it so i can see both pov yeah sure char was under the impression that they where sisters and didn't know fa was flirting fr but i think with the HILOT thing that may have had a part in it but char did say out her own mouth that she feels different with fa then HILOT the problem on chars is she seemed to give fa hope by doing stuff that ain't sisterly at all. And Fa who kinda let char take the lead on where they stood (when char was the first to call her sister) instead of declaring that she wanted more because fa was so afraid of over stepping and putting to much added pressure on her that she said one thing to make her comfortable but showed something entirely different in the end it was one big miscommunication and something that should've been talk about and maybe they did off cam who knows like fa said we have no idea what they do BTS
Vicky all i can say abt them is a big WHY ! 😂 they make me crazy
We’re all a little crazy at this point 😂😂
oop- a long episode 👀 i like it 😏
Yeahhhhhh I had a lot to say 😂
Honestly Vicky, most of the categorizations of Charlotte as Fa's sister happened before reporters or before fans as a way to take some of the pressure off of how intensely they were shipped and probably because Charlotte hadn't yet figured out her feelings. Freen and Becky do the same thing. For me, that's not so much the issue as, unlike Freen and Becky, as you've noted, there doesn't seem to be any behind-the-scenes clarification. like they're both scared to rock the boat so they just leave things as they are. That's what's really hurting them.
Came back her to see if the next episode has been posted
*sends to Char & Engfa 😂😂
😳😂😂😂😂😂 omg they would block me on every social media platform 😭
I think apart of the reason they originally started saying sister is because of the drama they have been getting because the whole lgbt joining the pageant, cause it’s still not acceptable with some parts of Thailand and persons.
Maybe……but if it were me I would have stuck with best friend. Or if they want to be closer than best friends then “best friend forever”
@@vickyreacts that sister thing is like a culture thing like koreans, its hard to explain english, its not may first language. But I'm not sure though lol.
@@angelajose7809 I agreed. How should I said it. Like in Thai industry, from what i have seen actors and actresses when they are in a relationship/talking phase in front of the public they would call each other siblings until they both agreed to come out said they are seeing each other.
Interesting. Why siblings and not stay as close friends or best friends? Is it the same words that are used to call your actual sibling?
@@vickyreacts idk how to explain it but at first I was confused too. Its like a hierarchy lol. If that person was born 1st you need to respect her/him/they. You need to used a "respectful/polite or honorific" words first and then if you are close enough you will ask a permission to drop the honorific language.
Wow 1 hour long……
I know! Lol Grab the popcorn 🍿❤️
On 47:00 now. I won’t mind even if it’s 2/3 hours…
I'm still confused as to why Engfa says. " She's not 100% LGBTQ" like no bro Char is part of the community, she's just in. I'm starting to think maybe the labels people know about different sexual orientations are kinda wrong
Means, you found your love one ❤but not in a Right 👍
time.😢😢😢😢😢😢
Btw, I started watching the videos with no pretenses of believing the hype. I really did think it was queer baiting and fan service, but damn! It definitely isn’t! Wish I could slap them both to wake them up!
😂😂😂😂😂 I feel this comment 😂❤️
This from 2021 not 2022 moment 💀 13:08
Hi! Where are you? I just miss your reaction 😔
I ran !!!!!!!!😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
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Next EP😚😚😚😚
Hi vicky, i'm from your tiktok live. Can you react "make a list" video from englot.
ruclips.net/video/yTeFVdfpjJc/видео.html
Could you react to a lesbian series called Stupid wife. Its on youtube. I think youd like it.
How many full episodes are there now? 6?
@@Chells75 yea
I will look into it. Hopefully I don’t have copyright issues. If I do my reaction will be very choppy.
I don't even think we need a series anymore because this drama right here!! This drama that's going on, I don't think a series could even be as juicy, weird, mental. The sister thing is about to make me go mental. When someone says the word sister again one of them need to turn around and say, " are u sure??.
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I’m late but I’m here ❤❤
I wait for you
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but gangggggg 🤪🤪❤️
Between ENGLOT the following is very interesting 🤭