I'd like to get one of the tip up barrel pistols, either Taurus or Beretta, just for a range toy...our regular carry are revolvers, they work reliably...
@@PetuniaIii-pd1ww Yeah my Taurus PT-22 (tip up barrel) works really well with CCI Mini Mags. Maybe half the price of the Beretta. Every other ammo is iffy.
As a person that has a 1911 style 22 and shot others..I just wouldn’t carry a 22. Rim fire is just not reliable enough. Too many other alternatives out there for similar money.
I've had the Taurus G2C for 5 years, put thousands of rounds thru it, and it eats EVERYTHING! Steel, brass, rust, with no problem... I actually love Taurus again!!
I started to buy one and even filled out the background check. The store clerk locked the slide back and neither of us could release it. He went into the back room with it and I’m assuming hit it with a hammer but I declined taking it.
Re: Taurus Customer service: As a retailer I have had nothing but good response in addressing issues with Taurus. They've never given me grief about sending a gun back and they always came back running fine. Previously they had issues answering the phone, and I once waited on hold for over an hour. In the past couple of years since they moved to the new facility at Bainbridge, GA, I have waited on hold as little as 5 seconds (literally picked up before I could change from speaker)and up to 11 mins. Their customer service HAS improved. That said, turn-around on the repairs are still 90 days, so lagging a bit there. As an offset to that, I have had significantly fewer problems to even call them about. Their QC has drastically improved. Most of the problems i get called about are because the person does not know how to treat a new semi-auto. Clean and lube before first shooting, and 200 rnds of decent brass ammo to break in. That's it. I recommend that for ALL my semi-auto sales and live by it myself.
As a customer I couldn’t disagree more. I’ve had 6 different firearms which came from under their brand. All required service in less than a year and one almost took my face off from breach failure. Not one case was handled professionally, promptly, or properly. I only own one of them anymore and that after a competent gunsmith who was aware of the issue with the gun repaired it at my cost. The lock failure turned into a lawsuit/settlement for cost and medical Calling them was always a huge time suck I will never buy another from them or for liability reasons sell my last Taurus to anyone
as a gunsmith I have more top shelf pistols come for repair and I cant keep any model Taurus on the shelf, I've actually had Glocks, S&W's traded for a Taurus, I personally carry a G3 or a 740 slim with an PT22 in an ankle holster for back up, also no problems with customer service, and when I order parts from Taurus I typically get them in a few days rather weeks like some manufactures,
thats is really good to hear. I used to purchase handguns frequently and stayed away from Taurus as they were always "entry level" bottom tear handguns... over the last 5 yrs ive seen improvement in their guns but still stayed away. I may now give them a chance
@@NoNameNoFace-rr7li For a budget gun in the sub-compact class it is not bad. Certainly not the worst by a long shot. If all you got is three bills and need protection, I would trust it, again doing a cleaning and break-in first.
As a somewhat novice to firearms, guys like you are so helpful and informative to people like me. I truly appreciate you and what you do to provide a wealth of information. Keep doing what you're doing!
I Carried the alloy framed PT22 as my secondary for years, before my job switched to a .32 or larger requirement. It was very concealable and easy to carry under my vest strap. Never had an issue. I ground the mag followers to hold ten rounds each. Could put 11 rds into a cake plate at five yards, which is all you need for a back-up, get-off-me gun.
Did you know that here in Brazil, Taurus CEO, Salésio Nuhs, wrote a letter to our government recommending that Brazilians be disarmed and no longer have the right to bear arms, even though the Brazilian people are almost being enslaved by a socialist dictatorship with its new ruler Lula ? And that Lula has connections with the Venezuelan dictator Nicolas Maduro, narco criminal, with Vladimir Putin, Daniel Ortega, and several other current tyrants? Lula wants to disarm us Brazilian and Taurus collaborates with the disarmament. If you appreciate freedom, DO NOT BUY TAURUS GUNS AND AMMO FROM CBC! If you ask me why, it's the good old lobby with the new government, which buys ammunition, in addition to market control in Brazil, to prevent competitors from arriving in Brazil.
I bought an old taurus pt-22 when I turned 21 back in 1999 and was told by my local gun store to use cci mini mag ammo and that gun performed so much better using that ammo. I love those little guns. "The old ones that is"
Did you know that here in Brazil, Taurus CEO, Salésio Nuhs, wrote a letter to our government recommending that Brazilians be disarmed and no longer have the right to bear arms, even though the Brazilian people are almost being enslaved by a socialist dictatorship with its new ruler Lula ? And that Lula has connections with the Venezuelan dictator Nicolas Maduro, narco criminal, with Vladimir Putin, Daniel Ortega, and several other current tyrants? Lula wants to disarm us Brazilian and Taurus collaborates with the disarmament. If you appreciate freedom, DO NOT BUY TAURUS GUNS AND AMMO FROM CBC! If you ask me why, it's the good old lobby with the new government, which buys ammunition, in addition to market control in Brazil, to prevent competitors from arriving in Brazil.
I have not one but two SCCY CPX-2. I wasn’t even considering looking at it until the guy at my gun store encouraged me to give a try. Once I tried it, I bought it. I had none of the issues you mentioned. It felt like an extension of my hand. It acquired target easily and without really trying, I was in the black on all 5 targets of a 5 target page. It quickly became my EDC. Once my wife tried it, she wanted it. I ended up buying one for her EDC. Now, we did have issues with the magazine not having a strong enough spring and had a feed problem with speed firing. I called the company and they immediately sent out 4 new mags. Their customer service is second to none. I’m completely happy with my SCCY handguns and would more than likely buy more of their products if they come out with other calibers and styles.
I agree with you I own the exact cpx-2 he has in the video and I have had zero issues with it, and it’s my EDC. SCCY is an underrated brand and it can compete with top brands even being hammer fired.
They must have seriously bad quality control issues everyone ive handled has been hot garbage id rather have the Taurus G3C or G2C i feel like everyone tries to justify saving $20 and weak spring issue in their magazine every one ive loaded felt like i was going to cut my finger on the feed lips
I had a CPX a while ago and you're right about their customer service. I dropped mine and broke the rear sight. I got to reading about the warranty and it sounded too good to be true so I called them. They sent me two rear sights and two front sight posts no questions asked. I was shocked. It's usually a headache dealing with companies trying to get replacement parts.
I bought the same one as in the vid.I had problems with the slide not closing all the way until I rounded off the inside of the magazine feed lips and also polished the feed ramp a little. The recoil spring got distorted from I dont know what,but they sent me a new one which I promptly lost before installing,so they sent me another one,no questions asked. Right now,I have to get around to replacing the new ejector which they also sent me no problem. After that,its getting hollow points and living in my truck in case I hit a deer I need to put down or something. But I'm not too mad at it. For the $265 I spent out the door at the height of covid panic,it doesnt owe me much.
Yes, you can get a "lemon". I have two SCCY CP2's and they are fantastic. No worries carrying it. They are reliable, accurate, inexpensive, and easy to carry. I've never, I mean never, had cycling problems. The ONLY thing I've done is get the MCARBO trigger kits for them....the draw is long and distracting and MCARBO makes them buttery and consistent. I also have so called "high end" weapons that don't come close to advertised quality and function. It's not a perfect world.
I dont think he got a lemon youve got an exception every sccy ive handled was wildly unreliable. My moms recently had a dead trigger caused by dust accumulation in the trigger definetly not a gun for someone who just wants to throw it in the holster and forget about it.
@punkstarnet I've shot literally thousands of rounds out of my stevens 320 I paid 125 for. Never jammed once or gave me any issue 🤷 💯 It's my cheapest gun, and the one I'll defend my house with. Most of the time if you use a gun for self-defense, it's hard to get the gun back from the police. I'd rather throw away old faithful and buy another cheap af one than loose my expensive guns
@@thatoneguywithahugethangTBF Steven’s been in the game for a long time, 159 years to be exact. Companies that make nothing but cheap lemons don’t last that long
4 years the G2C was my EDC I think I have about 1500 rounds through it with only 2 malfunctions (light primer strike & failure to eject). It was great starter gun helped me learn basic pistol fundamatics and a good first concealed carry. Easily some of the best $270 I ever spent! 🔸Today I upgraded to the IWI Masada as my EDC. Got a very lightly used one for $430. The gun store owner estimated it probably had less than 200 rounds through it, & only minimal & hardly noticeable cosmetic wear.
I disagree on the Taurus PT-22. I've had one for years. Easy to carry in a jacket pocket, fits my hand very well. I can hit a melon size target out to about 20 yards which is more than enough. I've had occasional misfires but I blame the ammo. I carry it for self defense only, not combat, it will buy me time and space to get away. Nobody wants to get shot with a .22LR.
My SCCY had been 100% reliable. I love it That being said the trigger takes a while to get used to. My PT22 has been great as well but I heard they are hit and miss. I somehow got a good one.
I got my CPX2 (in pink..was all they had at the time!) about a year and a 1/2 ago. Put more than a few hundred rounds through it and not a single malfunction. Feels good in my hand and is accurate. No complaints. I usually carry a .380, but I'd have zero issues carrying the SCCY.
Make sure you keep it spotless and better be able fully disassemble all the sccy ive dealt with dont like dirt and ive had a dead trigger issues several times
I haven't had any issues with accuracy on the SCCY CX2 and I haven't bought the upgrade kit. The upgrade kit is $78 and I'm sure it would make a massive difference with recoil and rate of fire.
Ya I picked 1 up for $150. For $181 out the door you really cant go wrong. If you want to spend more then you can get pretty much any Taurus for less the $350 🤷
I bought that SCCY on Gunbroker some years back for $189. I had the same issue with the trigger. Shot it once and was unimpressed. Sold it at a gun show and used the difference to purchase a M&P Shield.
Was it an easy purchase and transaction and shipping to your FFL using gunbroker? I'm really wanting to buy one of the new marlin 1895 sbl 45-70 govt lever actions but I can't find any locally so iv been seriously thinking about going through gunbroker but iv never used them or anyone I know, I appreciate any info if you don't mind please, thanks have a great day!
You could've replaced the trigger for under 20$ and solved your problem, and still have a cheaper subcompact than the M&P that works good and holds 10+1.
@@theviolator1074 yeah I had that thought and looked it up and with it being a DAO I wasn’t sure this was before I started doing AR builds so I was uncomfortable changing the trigger. But at the same gun show I saw the M&P Shield for $245 so no big deal because it was a great price for a better gun.
I need an education (keep in mind I took gun safety in 1975)- if you are a gun enthusiast, then yes, a semiautomatic pistol is on your list that you might want to consider. If however, you are a regular shmoe who wants to have a CCW weapon simply for personal protection and not hobby shooting, then why wouldn’t you get a lightweight .38 revolver, which basically never fails, and use it with hollow points (i.e. some say that a .38 doesn’t have stopping power)? I just want guaranteed performance, should I need it. Do I think there’s potential for a situation where a 9mm would work but a .38 w/ HPs wouldn’t drop the perp? Not really.
It's all about what your comfortable with. I'm not 100% comfortable with limiting myself to 5 or 6 rounds with semi autos being so common. If you are in a shootout, God forbid, I'd rather have 7+ with a fast reload.
I've have the SCCY CPX-1 9mm with Crimson Trace optic. Accuracy is spot on, fit and finish is real good. Never had reliability issue. I had a trigger job done because my state requires a 10lb pull from the factory. I love this gun and carry it daily. I have M&P 9 & .45 plus others but love the SCCY.
I the being in Illinois sucked but Massachusetts,NY and California takes the sh!t cake in regards to gun laws. Ya we need a license to have a gun but that restriction is ridiculous.
Same here. It's great for the price as it comes with 2 extra magazines, a coupon for a laser sight, and I really like the double action trigger and extra safeties it features.
@@PeytonAllen1 I conceal carry mine with an Alienware holster. I know it's because of the short barrel but wow it's loud! It's louder than my Glock Gen21 .45 Auto.
Never get a permit, and never register any of your guns. Never comply with the ATF aka WTF and never join the NRA or any organization of their ilk or likeness if you want to be a true and proud gun owner. Pay for your guns with cash and stash them in a place where only you and your loved one's know where they're at. Keep a gun in your vehicle and if you ever get pulled over you just simply never mention the gun in the vehicle and if you do that then 99% percent of the time they will never ask you if you have one. Never put any stickers relating to guns on your vehicle. Do not worry about anything the government comes out and says that you have to do relating to guns because YOU DO NOT HAVE TO CONSENT BECAUSE YOU ARE PROTECTED BY THE SECOND AMENDMENT AND...YOUR RIGHT SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED! ANYTHING THAT TAKES FROM THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS NILL. Buy guns, buy more, and more. Stash them, shoot them, be smart, and be free. Just thought I'd give you my two cents.
Watch more videos before making any decisions, also borrow, or rent guns to test them yourself. No offense to the poster of this video, I rarely make my choices based on youtube xspurts.
@@walkingwolf8072Yes your right.. i have huge hand, so what may fit MY hand might be too big for next guy.. Try diff ones, as yu said, rent as many as yu can to find out what fits your hand well.. 👍
@@sexytopramen I have a PF9 that runs great! I won't carry it out and about, but it makes a hell of a good "shower gun", seriously. Put it in a waterproof box and hang it from the showerhead, that way it isn't in direct water path but it's there if I need it lol.
I bought the Sccy out of a curiosity and also hated it. I ended up getting a spring kit and it made a huge difference. Shortens the trigger reset and lightens the pull. It's also is ammo picky
I own a sccy .380 and it is absolutely with no modification's the worst trigger pull on anything I've ever shot....feel like I could reload a crossbow easier lmao
I recently escaped from the asylum known as NY. I relocated to AZ. As a first time gun carrier, I am finding your video’s very informative. I am so glad I found your show!
@@dlutes2995 thanks. I LOVE it here! Besides the liberal insanity in NY, I’m also disabled after a motorcycle accident and can no longer take cold weather. Not a problem here in North Phoenix. 😁
My CW380 is very reliable with Hornady Critical Defense, so that's what I use for carry. It's the only gun I know of that will fit in the dash compartment of my Ridgeline. Other than that I carry it when I'm riding my bike. The recoil is very manageable and it's quite accurate. It is a little tiny thing, but it doesn't make me wish it was a .32 like my Walther PPK did.
Me and my brother bought Sccy CPX-2s, it's one of my daily carry car/truck pistol. mine works fine, but his mag retention was unreliable at first, he had to mess around with it to make it work. It also didn't like his brass. But we only paid $190 for them. So far mine is fine.
I have CPX-2 myself It`s been perfect with the 500 rnds thru it so far, I got the oversized frame pins for it as a precaution [ free of course ] then later put a Mc Carbo trigger kit with a 5 lb trigger in it I like it even better now. I hav`nt had any ammo diet issues with 4 different loads I used including +p and accuracy is good. I`m sure it`s not made to shoot 15-20 k rnds before overhaul but it will fill my needs 100%. MY question is if it`s so bad like some say why does glock have one that looks just the same.
I got a SCCY CPX 2 also and have used it for my CCP for 5plus years. Easy to conceal on my hip. I like the extra long pull for safety reasons. You have to make a choice and give and take on a gun. I don't want to ask myself is the safety on or off in a time of emergency just point and shoot. I have a Beretta APX and it kills my hip and back to carry it.
i got the rp9 when they cleared them out for 199 and i have had zero issues. hundreds of range quality rounds through it and dead nuts on. easy grouping.
i have had no issues with my Sccy. no failures, accuracy is great, and red dot works perfect. Trigger takes some practice, but you should be doing this with every ccw. just my opion.
I agree. I have run several hundred rounds through my CPX 2. Admittedly the factory trigger and recoil spring sucks. I replaced the trigger and springs with aftermarket pieces. Cut the trigger pull and reset, and the barrel flip by about 25%.
@@TW-rr6qb Mc Carbo is very affordable and has complete video instructions Just make sure your state law doesn`t frown on it like another commenter had.
The 1911 was formally adopted by the army in 1911, but was designed and produced prior to 1911 in various iterations, so has been an incredibly successful and reliable design for nearly 120 years! Thank you John Browning!
Reliable my ass. All gun lovers knows that the german walther p38 was the.best handgun of WW1 AND WW2. The 1911 is 💩. Extremely UNREALIBLE. It was just there in WW2. That's it! But it was a shit handgun. If want to be proud of an american fire arm in WW2, then be proud of the garand. But fuck the 1911. Unreliable heavy dumb ass pistol.
1911 .45 is a nail driver. i wont say its for everyone but that is why there is so many calibers and so many manufactures. i cant find a gun that fits me better the my 1911.
@@talltale9760 Those jokes are usually reserved for Kimbers. There are plenty of 1911s that are extremely reliable and the original Colt went 6,000 rounds with no failures in the original Army testing.
I agree with most of what you had to say with the exception of the PT-22. You may have gotten a bad one, it obviously was bad. Years ago I picked one up for about the same reason you did, but mostly because it was small. I could shove it in the pocket of my shorts with a tank top on and no one was the wiser. The only malfunctions came from inexpensive foreign ammo. CCI shot great. Never, in several hundred rounds did I have a failure to feed, extract or eject. Only reason I got rid of it was that my granddaughter liked it. As far as accuracy goes, at 10 yards I found it to be quite accurate. Could have been rated as great if the trigger was a pound lighter. Anything over 10 yards would be questionably prudent. After all, a .22 from 2.8 inch barrel does not have a lot of velocity to begin with. My new pocket pistol is a Taurus TCP .380. All that said, if I am fully dressed, my main carry is a Springfield 1911 in .45. Yes, I believe in stopping power, and as an older Vet, the 1911 was my main carry for several years. Bottom line: I respect your testing and opinions; most of the time.
A Kahr CW9 was my first carry gun. Did like many said in reviews by racking it 200 times before taking it out for the manual recommended 200 round break-in. After about 150 rounds the whole thing locked up with a live round in the chamber. Stuck so bad I had to have the range officer, who was easily twice my size, break it free and even he took about 3 minutes to clear it. Cleaned it and put another 150 rounds through it without a problem. I guess it really did need a 200 round break-in. It was carried for about a year and a half and probably got another 1000 rounds in that time, but I switched it for a Shield when they were doing closeout pricing just before the 2.0 came out. Been with S&W since, never an issue. I will say, the Kahr did serve well once it was broken-in and my reason for picking that over all the other options was the long dao trigger making it always ready to fire, but the long heavy trigger acting as the safety.
That’s funny, my first carry pistol was a CW9 that, like my CW380, never had a hiccup after about 75 rounds. Like you, I was a little freaked out about carrying loaded so the trigger made me feel better, too. Everyone who’s tried it shot it well and without problem. Weird how some people have trouble with them.
I was interested in the cw9 I rented one. It would stove pipe 1-3 rounds per mag and the slide did not lock back once when empty. It was a shame. The trigger pull was long but very clean through out the entire pull. Accurate for what it was but the other issues I couldn’t get past as far as trusting it for a carry gun.
IIRC, it is right in the Kahr instruction manual that you have to thoroughly clean the gun before doing the 200rd break-in. Apparently there is a factory coating on the gun applied to preserve the finish prior to retail that after a few rounds will totally gunk up the slide, as described here. All things are not 'idiot' proof . . . have that 'ah ha' moment breaking down the gun, cleaning it, fresh lube, and no more issues.
Bought a SCCY CPX-2 about 7 years ago for trigger pull training/practice. Since it has the worst trigger imaginable and second stroke capability I dry fire it and concentrate on the mechanics. It works for me for that specific task, nevertheless, when I shot it (around 300 rounds) it never failed.
The SCCY was the first gun I ever purchased. It's definitely not the best gun you can buy. Mine needed some break-in plus lots of oiling the gun was very dry. Once I broke it in and learned how to grip the gun properly. I never had a reliability issue since. It does have a lot of recoil because it's so small which makes it hard to fire with the atrocious trigger. Once you spend some time dry a firing and break the trigger in. I was able to get some good groups consistently.
I've got one for my wife and the trigger pull was the biggest issue. Can't use cheap rounds or it'll jam or stove pipe. Trigger kit, pointier bullets ,and a set of ear plugs LOL
Glad to see videos of this type! Caveats: I own the Kahr CW.380 and it works wonderfully for my _small_ hands. Please note that Kahr guns require a rather extensive break-in period. Make sure you follow that. Also, you had some issues where the slide fails to close. I reload, so I had to learn this: Take the barrel out of the gun; then pick up a round and put it into the chamber. Press the round in with some force with your thumb. Now tip the barrel upside down. If the round does not immediately fall out, then you have an ammo problem; not a gun problem. And not all guns will exhibit this -- even with the same ammo. You're welcome.
@@TricknologistPHD Have you ever owned a Kahr? They TELL you in the instruction manual about the "break-in" period -- and it is a long one. {I have Four Kahrs} Kahrs ALSO have _extremely_ stout springs. What you get for all this, once the gun is broken in, is the softest-shooting small handgun you will ever find or see anywhere. Also, the absolute smoothest trigger -- anywhere. Gun Reviewers never get there because for them, it's "Bang, bang, bang" and if if they have one single FTF or FTE, the Kahr gets a bad review. Now there are some guns that are made cheaply, and their actions need to be broken in; however Kahrs are well made with tight tolerances and stiff springs _on purpose_ .
The car is very smooth. Get the proper ammo and magazines and one will have NO problems. Customer service is GREAT and they even sent me a replacement spring when I lost mine during cleaning * you are 100 percent correct in that this gun's trigger pull is the best of all!! Great craftsmanship and smoothest pull of all!
I've carried my Taurus g2c 9mm four going on 3 years now I've put about 700 g through it I carry hollow points in it and it has always shot I've only had I use it once for self-defense and it did great it's accurate and when I'm at home I keep it beside my bed I have two of them and my wife has one so big fans of the Taurus g2s and I do highly recommend them
I have a CW380 as a backup or better than nothing gun for certain situations. Every so often, when I get home, I'll dump a mag I've been carrying for a while before I go in the house. It's never failed me aside from some large mouth JHP. Feed ramp issues. It'll eat & shit hornady critical defense rounds like nobody's business. Only Kahr I own, but I trust it.
A CW380 is my primary carry gun. The only time it's ever had an issue is when I hadn't fired it for a year and the lube was a bit dried-out (it fired the first shot, but didn't cycle reliably).
I inherited a Taurus PT 22. My Dad had bought it for my Mom years ago, and she never fired it. I've ran every type of ammo I could find through it, and it has NEVER completed a full mag without at least one jam.
Do a search on youtube. There is an issue with the magazine that can be fixed. I researched it because I see them in the gun shops all the time for around $100. I passed on them because I went with the Beretta Tomcat and am happy with it.
@@SemperParatus1234 I agree. I"ve had the all metal version in .22 and .25 and both were extremely reliable. I've never owned a poly one because they always got bad reviews, but the all metal versions have been nearly 100% reliable. Also, I've had several Taurus pistols and revolvers. Only twice have I had an issue that required sending a firearm back to them for repair, but both times, they were very fast with only a 2 week turn around, and both times the guns came back working just fine.
My PT22 was notorious for the same malfunctions like in this video. I too assume it was a magazine issue and bought 3 brand new ones (over the course of a year simply because they are SO hard to find) and had little improvement. The biggest help was to lube the s**t out of the gun. I'm talking damn near dip the gun in oil. And I was finally able to get whole mags emptied malfunction free. It still has hiccups but to get 7/10 mags shot with no issues is a major improvement. But STILL wouldn't trust my life with it as a carry gun 😂
Really surprised about the SCCY pistol. I bought one years ago and it has NONE of the problems you mentioned. The blowback seemed really weird. Mine handles everything I put through it including bulk reloads. Never a failure of any kind, period. Lot's of people want great guns but MANY just can't afford one. In all my years I NEVER heard anyone give a favorable opinion ANY HighPoint product. Maybe you got a lemon or I got a Gem. Just my experience....
I have 3. All I did was disassemble the magazine and adjusted the spring and it stop jamming. I’ve had them for over a year and over 600 rounds and hasn’t done it since
The only good thing I can say about sccy is they do have a excellent service department they are very friendly and very eager to help you get parts or even have the gun replaced.
Very interesting video. My wife has a PT-22 that she has carried for 7 years. She has a lot of range time with that pistol and it almost never malfunctions. SHe would feed 200+ rounds at the range with zero issues. It's about as (in)accurate as i would expect for a short barrel .22. I guess she got lucky with hers.
Secret to pt22 & Beretta 21A.... Dont use lead bullets! Always use jacketed bullets. Lead will build up in chamber and case will get stuck. Note the absence of an extractor on these guns.
I had to send my CPX-2 back to SCCY twice to get the damn thing working. They have a lifetime warranty but SCCY should really improve the quality of their guns so people didn't have to use that warranty and send them back so much.
They've been in business 20 plus YEARS !!! They STILL can't get the SAME DAMN DESIGN RIGHT!!! They sucked in 2012 with my CPX 2 GEN 2 .... GREAT CS people... even let me talk to the HEAD GUNSMITH ... Great Guy.... He quit!!! It was a deal breaker cause instead of getting better... Problems got worse... it went from FTF & FTE .... Solution ??? 3 new mags and a NEW HAT AND DEN to that "Dead Trigger Pull" U experienced when it got hot which led to hangfires... Couldn't Sell it... I GAVE it away!!!
The lifetime warranty on this gun sounds like something out of a south park episode. The gun NEEDS a lifetime warranty considering you'll be sending it back so often.
Mine had feed issues out of the box just like his. The magazine sprigs were in backwards. Once I put them in the correct way it has worked flawlessly for the last 7 years with 0 fail to feed issues.
Maybe I was lucky but my cw380 has never failed to fire or eject. Not even in the break in period. It does have a big flaw IMO, if you dry fire it the firing pin can remain partially extended, preventing chambering a round. If you dry fire when cleaning or whatever make sure the pin is all the way back.
The plastic frame older style 380's have always been more prone to problems. Don't matter if its Kahr, or Ruger or Kel Tec. Kahr CW9 is a perfect CCW auto. Got 2 in the family, mine is 11 years old and my kid's is 9 years old. Both were bought used. Zero problems with FMJ or HP ammo. Love the slimness plus the grip fits a variety of hand sizes.
First pistol I bought was a SIG P220. I've always loved SIG but came to also love the Walthers. I have the pps m2, ppq m2 and pdp. I don't think you can beat them for the price. Not a failure in any of them.
I bought a CCP from Walther and had to fight for a refund because the slide was binding on the frame to where it wouldn't chamber a round without hitting the back of the slide after every shot, I got my money back from that thing and went and bought a Sig 365XL, not a single malfunction from that gun, and it's lighter and has better capacity
CCP is a junk pistol. Only cycles fmj with brass case. Will not cycle aluminum or steel case ammo, nose dives hollowpoints, and the slide hangs up. But... Its as accurate as my 1911 and shoots softer than my shield. I still carry it. It protects my 1911, my 1911 protects me.
@@thebeesknees745 mine wouldn't cycle any ammo, every shot you had to hit the back of the slide to get it to go all the way into battery, the gunsmiths at Walther even told me it was built out of spec and unsafe to shoot and gave me the option to either get a full refund or another CCP, at that point I was sick and tired of the over-engineered German junk so I got a refund and went and bought a Sig 365XL to replace it
@@ksrebelbuck7936 nothing against SIG, I love SIG and own a bunch of their products. However…it’s was technically a German company up until about 2 years ago when it moved headquarters to US. In 1976 the Swiss SIG company partnered with J.P. Sauer & Sohn, and became the SIG Sauer brand you know today, with headquarters in Germany (again, until 2020 that is). Just sayin…when you got tired of one German over engineered “junk” pistol…you went and bought another German brand pistol (P365 was released in 2018 while SIG was still headquarter in Germany). Though since we’re talking technicalities…I believe the actual design of the P365 came out of the Newington, NH offices in the US. Where it was also produced/manufactured. Wait did I just talk myself in a circle…?😵💫
A good used Shield can be bought for around $250 now. Those pistols are generally in "as new" condition as most people who bought them rarely shot them much.
@@thefrogking481 agree 100%, I tell everyone to look for a used Shield. I bet If you show up with a 2 crisp hundred dollar bills, you could buy it most of the time (particularly the 1.0).
My PT-22 is a solid performer. Accurate for what it is. It does need to have the chamber wire brushed after 50 rounds or so or it starts jamming. I've found a little extra lube doesn't hurt. Mine has not been particularly ammo picky. I trust mine and carry it occasionally.
Got me a SCCY-2 about 5 years ago for $180 So far, no issues at all, except the long stroke trigger. But, practice makes perfect. I even aced my ccw class seven to ten yards qualification shoot by keeping 10 rounds rapid fire within the 10 ring including 2 required head shots for body armour drill.
Was looking at the SCCY-2 particularly because of that sub-$200 price. I sure do hear mixed reviews on reliability and the trigger. Ended up not buying one, but glad yours is working out.
I love your brutal honesty. The bit of sarcasm thrown in is great too. I’ve been a professionally trained ( including actual college degree and 8yrs at a premier national shooting school) gunsmith for almost 30 years now and it continues to amaze me that people will trust their lives to the cheapest weapon available. I understand that a lot of people are working within a limited budget, however most would be far better off buying a quality used gun over a cheap new one. If the SCCY is available for $250 new, a used Glock or S&W for $300-350 is almost always the better way to go even if it means saving for another month or two. A detail clean and fresh set of springs and you’re good for another 10,000 rounds. Which for most people is a couple lifetimes. Anyway, great content, keep up the good work!
Interesting outlook! I'm an old school 1911 veteran. I carried 2 1911s and a scoped M14 in combat conditions. The extra ammo weight, really helped with my posture! Even in retirement, I own various 1911s.
I carry a 'mini-1911', sig p238. I have the de-horned model, ergonomic & very reliable with decent ammo. Great factory trigger & 3 dot nite sites. I really like the configuration and chunky quality - 1911 fan here for sure -
I’m 1911’s biggest fan in 45 acp and on weekends I Carry my Kimber Pro Raptor ll in a Galco “Miami Classic” shoulder holster(leather) with Wilson Combat 47D mags 8+1! My edc for last decade is my Sig 938 “Rosewood” 9mm made off the 1911 with Desantis Leather mini scabbard for carry and it’s design I’m familiar with & it works reliably and both very sexy guns!#1911❤#45acp#KimberRaptor#Sig938#9mm
That little Taurus 22 is patterned after the Beretta M21. I used to have several of this model and liked it, except for the blasted trigger, which I thought was awful. But, it was a reliable and fairly accurate little pistol.
I had a Beretta m21 it was totally reliable with everything I put into it. They do have a reputation for being ammo sensitive. It's one of the guns I regret selling. the Taurus has never had a good reputation
The pt22 trigger is like 8 pounds and a looooong pull, I hate it too, but mine functionally speaking hasn't been nearly as finicky as most peoples seem to be. They must just be a hit or miss gun. Some are fine and some are boat anchors.
Friend, Over a decade ago my search for a pocket 380 brought me to the Kahr CW380. It was used at a pawn shop, and it was at first unreliable with all sorts of ammo. I discovered upon disassembly that the spring had been cut and was installed backwards. New factory spring, and zero failures in a few hundred rounds with many types of ammo. I would highly recommend it for Pocket carry after it demonstrates itself to you after 500 rounds. Best PS. Then came the LCP MAX!!
My CPX-2 has never failed me. I've put over 500 rounds through it, and yes, it's hard to be accurate with that trigger, but it went bang every single time
MCarbo has kits to upgrade your SCCY CPX-2 trigger and recoil. With SCCY’s warranty and support, and MCarbo’s improvements, you can have a very reliable EDC piece.
I had the tp9 elite sc and it was fantastic in terms of recoil and trigger but I was not very accurate with it with iron sights and green dot sight and it may be just me but it was enough to make me part with it. Now my m&p shield 9 is an absolute beast!!! I can hit my target with little to no effort at 20-25 yrds away
I carry a Taurus g2c and I’m happy with what I got I’ve put over 1000 rounds through no problems yet it’s slim and compacted I like it a lot of people sleep on it
@@ccassidy278 honestly I don't have one, but I can't find anyone with anything negative to say about them. I saw G3C online the other day for $183 before shipping with a $25 mail in rebate! I'm still tempted, even though I have a Glock and Walther
I had the Remington RP45 and yeah it was big and heavy because it held 15 rounds in the mag but it worked beautifully. Only issue was the trigger was crunchy and had a long reset. I sold it and got a Glock 30 Gen 4.
I had one too. Got it from Buds for just over $200 new. It was fairly reliable with Federal 230 grain ball, but not with anything else. I traded it at a pawn shop for $300 credit, I used it toward buying my wife an M17. Good times.
For the .380acp people, I would add the Bersa Thunder series, SigSauer P365, and Beretta 84 and 85. Bersa Thunder is double/single action with 8round mags, and Thunder Plus is double-stack 15round mags. SigSauer P365 is nearly identical to the 9mm version. Different recoil spring and chamber profile, everything else is the same. Has 10 or 12 round mags. Beretta 84 and 85 are old and not made anymore, but they are double/single action, the 84 is double-stack 13 round mag, and the 85 is single-stack magazine but I don't remember the exact capacity.
You must be one helluva firearms instructor! I have almost 50 combined years in the Navy and in a follow on career as a federal LEO. Younger, I was a pretty decent shot….older I got, into upper management, and my field skills declined. In my mid-60s now, the Service bought me a firearm as a retirement gift….which was usually what we carried, a Glock 22…..but I knew I’d never carry that, so I asked them instead to get me a Glock 42 (.380)…and I was happy to see that it wasn’t on this list!! As it is, I’ve developed a physical disability that affects my muscular control, and my eyesight is declining. Damn….I hate getting older, and so does my dog. Bright side? My dog and I still have each other! And I can still enjoy recreational shooting, just not quick and confident with the fine motor skills. I bet those folks working in that granary on the other side of that berm….don’t venture to close this way? Enjoyable video, amigo….and Bravo-Zulu on your fire line technique. Be well….and take care.
I feel you. I used to be a pretty good skeet & trap shooter, along with bird hunting. I also used to be a deadshot at handgun the range. I'm 46 now. I'm extremely nearsighted, and I need reading glasses. I'm also disabled, because I developed an adult-onset, genetic muscle disease. It's hard to remember that I was once captain and MVP of my collegiate wrestling team. Those days are behind me, but I still need to be able to shoot decenyly. I can still shoot pretty accurately for the 1st 50 rounds at the range. After that, my muscle control starts to daily me. It sucks, but I do the best I can.
@@DDDYLN Well, sir, from what I see on your videos….you are still pretty sharp. And watching you, brings me back….so that’s good.….and as I said in my post, you must be one helluva firearms instructor. Take care, and I sincerely wish you well, brother.
@@captaincoyote1792 you have me confused with the guy who made the video! I'm just a regular Joe who used to hunt birds, shoot skeet, trap, & sporting clays, & shoot handguns at the range. That said, I agree with you. The guy who makes these videos is too notch. I really appreciate his content.
To each his own, the kahr 380 is 1 of the most reliable pocket pistol I’ve ever seen,shoots +p underwood like a champ(maybe he got his from Family Dollar) but I have had 2,the first was given too me 15+ yrs ago,and one I purchased in 2021,both without without a hiccup…A little smaller than a Glock 380 & Lcp 2…He most be a GLOCK FAN BOY 4 SURE…I own glocks,Sigs and S&W…But my line of work,I must say S&W,Ruger and (Kahr 380) back-up has saved my life several times over 👍🏾 Purchase what u like & works 4 u,here in Metro Atlanta, One place in particular,when u purchase if it’s not working properly in the firing range,turn rite around and return it 👍🏾 And being 6’3” means nothing….I’ve seen Navy Seals 6’8” shoot Kahr, Berettas and even 25 auto with no problem….any firearm is better than a knife or a sharp stick…REMEMBER THAT…. Semper Fi-06 Lt Colonel
@@beavisroadhog9629 are you freaking serious? What rock do you live under ? Any ammo makers that make plus P ammo….. what is the top ? It’s on the box and read the psi. /p specs !!!!
Thanks for taking the time to go over your list of guns you wouldn't carry. Being considerably new to the hand gun market, I appreciate your honest reviews of the choices out there on the market.
I have the little Beretta Tomcat, very reliable and surprisingly accurate. Great summertime carry, but 32 caliber is a little on the small side, so shot placement is even more important than usual.
I had the same Tomcat .32. Loved it ‘til a piece broke during cleaning after only shooting several boxes. Sent it to the factory. Never heard from them for several weeks. Finally grew tired of waiting and called them. They thought they had already contacted me! Turns out the frame was damaged beyond repair! They offered me that I could buy a new one from the factory at a $50 discount!!! I was insulted. Beretta won’t stand behind their product and worse thought I had enough confidence in the broken one to purchase another one!?! WTH?! I politely refused and tell everyone I meet. I don’t care how good a particular Beretta pistol may be, I will NEVER give that company another hard earned dollar. They suck.
I really question the idea of shot placement ability during a deadly force encounter. The scenario is just so different than anything that can be trained for. Both parties are amped on adrenaline and move like jackrabbits after hearing that first shot or draw, it's just insanely fast.
.32 is the smallest caliber I would consider for self defense. I would say .25 is too small and any .22 is either too small or too unreliable. A lot of people say .380 is the lowest caliber they would consider but .32 is practically the same. Yes .380 is going to have a little more energy but both energy levels are not significant enough to matter. Penetration is what matters the most on these small calibers and I have seen plenty of .32 loads penetrate just as deep and sometimes even deeper than .380s.
@@bmx7596 Unfortunately I have been in 3 encounters involving guns and it does happen very, very fast. That's is when the training takes over, without it you are probably right.
I picked up a sccy for $200 when they very first came out with the cpx-2. It being my first Handgun I purchased I shot it a lot and had very few malfunctions. The main problem I had with them r the triggers and the slide bit kicking back on empty. The cpx-2 is by no means a quality firearm however it does go bang and in the event of having to defend yourself would be better than a sharp stick so I would take it if it’s all I had but that being said I edc a sig 320 full size x series 😂
I installed a "short stroke" trigger kit in a friend's CPX-2 last summer. Much better trigger pull and a clear, discernible trigger reset at about 1/3rd the pull length. Made it into a much better pistol.
I bought a Taurus PT22 about 20+ years ago. It was "keyholing" so I contacted Taurus and sent it back to them. Within 2 weeks, I got it back with a test target. After the repair, I had no malfunctions, and could dance a can at 10 yards. The ONLY complaint I have is that the magazine release spring is too light, allowing the mag to drop out if the release button is accidentally pressed.
I had an older PT22. If you look at PT22's Wiki, it looked exactly like that one. It was a fun thing to shoot, once I found the only .22LR round that would cycle it reliably, and that was the CCI Stinger. Anything other than Stingers resulted in exactly what you experienced with it, quite consistently. 20'ish years ago, it was a decent option for a pocket pistol, if loaded with ammo that would cycle it reliably. Today, there are just too many options that are better in every way. I mean, the thing clocks in at nearly Sig P365 size.
I have one and it fires stingers perfect too, but then I read that it's not rated for hypersonic 22lr, be careful! Federal automatch has also been reliable for me. I think it's normally magazine or ammo related when they fail and people blame the gun. Definitely not very accurate but it's tiny so it's to be expected.
Agree with most of what was said in this review, but I'll say the statement about a less superior gun ballistically - the Beretta Jetfire in .22 short - its what the Taurus was modelled on, but with even less power thanks to .22 short vs the .22LR (not that you'll get much more power in the LR, since there's almost no barrel to burn that extra powder) - my grand-dad had one. SCARY gun - as it was single action with *no* safety. You carried it hammer down, period. He used it as a backup "screw it in their ear and pull the trigger" type gun to his 5 shot J-frame .38Spl Smith & Wesson. It would dispatch a gopher fairly reliably, if you caught said gopher out of their tunnel. It'd also kill rats reliably, if the rat was standing still enough to hit. That's all that could be said positively about that little Beretta.
It has been my experience that no handgun ever performs like advertised when it is new out of the box. You gotta break it in, 400 to 500 rounds before it can be judged as a "keeper". You also have to find out what kind of ammo functions in the gun the best. Opinions are like bellybuttons, everybody has one.
I just eant to be a bit pedantic. Not everyone had a bellybutton. There are various surgeries, some cosmetic some not, that remove the belly button. My grandmother hasn't had one since she was in her twenties.
Yeah no doubt my parents were so poor they couldn’t afford a belly button for me so I don’t have one. I think the comment was not very inclusive of us without belly buttons. 😢
Great review. I will disagree on the KAHR. Mine has never malfunctioned and I got it in a trade for a Ruger LCP that only ever once ran a whole mag without either failing to eject or feed. I as I am 5'10" and have normal sized hands it is not an issue to fire. Fits on my pocket and with the "extended" mag is reasonably comfortable for me to shoot. Keep up the good work.
Kahrs are good guns read the manual you are to use the slide stop to chamber a round! They also say brake in is 200 rounds and not to slingshot the slide to chamber a round!! Ed Brown guns have a brake in of about 500 rounds!!
The Taurus G2C and G3C are SIGNIFICANTLY larger than the SCCY. I’d say a better recommendation is the Ruger LCP Max. 11rds expandable to 13, fits in the pocket of looser fitting pants. Barely notice it in a holster. I got mine for $330.
I use to carry a Ruger LCP standard one. It was very reliable but the trigger was not great. I bought a LCP Custom. Great trigger, reliable mire useable sights. I've carried it since 2015. I'm looking for a comparable 9mm easily concealed but not super heavy.
I learned my lesson a long time ago. I had started my career with the Sheriff's Dept and back then we carried revolvers. I wanted a small backup/off duty carry so I chose a colt agent model. Paid a pretty penny but when I got home and read the stats I couldn't fire any +P ammo because it had an alloy frame. I immediately returned and talked to the Gunshop owner who suggested a ruger SP101. That thing is built like a tank. I was very pleased with it. From then on, I made sure to do my research BEFORE spending my hard earned wampum on anything I intended to carry! Great video BTW! 😁👍
You can fire +P ammo in alloy framed 1911s. You just don't want to use a steady diet. Best course is to train with standard pressure ammo, and carry +P ammo. Although for 45acp, I don't feel you get much gain running +P ammo for the extra recoil and muzzle flash you get. 45Super is a different story, but I wouldn't run that in an alloy gun. I applaud you on the SP101 though, great little gun. Did you go with the 2.25in, or 3in barrel? I love the 3in version myself. Although I love the 5 shot SP101 357Mag, the 6 shot 327 Federal sounded mighty appealing too. Edit: On re-reading your post, I see you were talking about the Colt Agent 38 Special revolver. I was thinking Colt NEW Agent 3in alloy 1911. But the same would have applied for the Colt Agent. Train with standard, carry +P. +P makes more sense in a 38 Special. Just that too much regular +P use would throw off the timing of the revolver. Colt Agents were good guns though. They were an alloy version of the Colt Cobra with a little shorter grip. Great guns for use as a hideaway piece or BUG.
I second your comment on the Ruger LCP! I have the LCP 2 and love it! It’s my CCW because it does not jam, it is accurate even at 10 yards, and I can pocket carry it easily.
For .380s I went with the smith and Wesson bodyguard personally. My family has always been big on smith and Wesson and this was before the higher capacity lcp came out. Haven’t shot it quite as much as I should but I have yet to have a malfunction with it.
S&W Bodyguard has one of the WORST triggers of any gun I’ve ever shot. I got one because I liked the integrated laser and the size in 380…shot it a couple of times…and when my finger recovered, I couldn’t get rid of it fast enough.
I only have experience with one of these guns. I bought a SCCY CPX-2 at a local pawn shop for $125 just to try it. I got lucky with mine and had no issues. But yes the trigger is horrendous.
My carry over 4 years has been the S&W M&P Shield 9MM EZ. Small, powerful, compact, great grip, ergonomics, and very dependable. Fits me like a glove. Fiocchi 115g FMJ rounds (1195 fps velocity.)
Wow, you own and carry THREE of the top 5! I worked part-time at a pawn shop so I had a privilege number of pistols that I have " borrowed " and shot. The SCCY was instantly on my least favorites list when it first came in, I didn't even have to shoot it. I did own a Kahr CW 40, that I did not have problems with other than the double action trigger was not my thing and the recoil of the 40 in that pistol went beyond snappy, a comfortable gun to carry, not a comfortable gun to shoot. I have had two of the old PT-22 and I just love them. I'm surprised but glad to know that the new design isn't worth the trouble. Get out there man and shoot some other brands you'll probably trade in at least two of those three for a better gun!
I have been considering the Sccy RD, but they only make it in 9mm which is uncomfortable for my wife. Currently she has a spectrum which is uncomfortable to shoot for her also, and a Pavona 380 which is a joy to shoot, but heavy.
Mine has been decent too. Only one jam after shooting it a couple hundred times. Long trigger pull does take some getting used to. It's a perfect gun to keep in the car because I wouldn't be too heartbroken if it got stolen but it's also not terribly unreliable.
I have a cpx 1 I just got as a gift. The slide pull and trigger pull are both a bit harsh, but after I took it apart and wiped the factory grease out and oiled it it seems to run alot smoother. I personally haven't fired it yet but from what I was told it fires just fine. I've seen lots of good and bad reviews, I think some guns just have a few kinks to work out while others come out perfect from the factory. Most people aren't willing to work those issues out though when they're spending money. Hopefully mine runs nice when I take it out
I was a firearms instructor for a federal agency. I had a couple of guys want to use Kahrs as off duty firearms. The backup course was only 30 rounds but I can’t remember any of them getting through without multiple malfunctions. Not a fan.
I have 2 SCCY pistols and used to have a used one. One issue SCCY has fixed is that the pins used to walk out after about 50 rounds. Negatives for SCCY, it's square grips tend to bite and even scrape your hand. The trigger REALLY takes practice to get used to. One thing that got me the most, with it's short barrel it has the WORST blast I have ever experienced with a 9mm. I found it somewhat overwhelming until I got used to it. Pluses, they have an absoulute excellent warrenty and supurb Customer Service with a very quick turn around. Now that I am used to it, I can shoot it accurately and was able to put rounds onto a small target at 21 feet with no problem. Would I make it my number one carry gun? NO! but I do have one ready and would feel confident in using it to defend myself. This is a good choice if you are on a very limited budget. But you MUST practice and get used to it's quirks.
Being a Firearms examiner I have test fired all of these guns and they all are garbage. Thanks for keeping your reviews honest. Too many people just don't have the balls to call a gun crap.
I've owned a sccy cpx-2 for three years now and put a lot of round through it. I've noticed that it really does like hotter ammo. The only reliability issues I've had had been with cheap plinking ammo.
You really have to treat it like a DAO revolver in regards to the trigger. You can stage it, although it is solely by muscle memory as there is no ledge. My experience with them has been okay, and their customer service is pretty darn good.
I bought a Remington RP9 when they first came out and mine has been great! Maybe I got lucky. But it does have a huge slide and the trigger is mush. But it's fun to shoot.
Never understood how people can say the trigger is crap and fun to shoot in the same breath. Nothing makes a gun horrible to shoot more than a bad trigger
A friend and I both bought RP9s not long after they debuted. Both have been reliable and reasonably accurate. No match trigger, of course, though its similar to Glock's mashable bang switch. Give it a C grade.
I keep a Ruger ec9s on me and I haven't found anything easier to carry with true reliability. I bought it when they were under 250, now they've gone up. Definitely worth the money
I love the EC9S, one of the best cheaper pistols on the market imo. I think the Taurus G3C is a more reliable gun, but I like them both. Bought mine for about $270, I believe.
My personal favorite little CCW pistol was the Makarov. Basically a Walther PPK in 9x18mm which, when loaded with CorBon hollow points, performed like a. 38 spl +P. Sadly, this great potential for a concealed carry gun died when the supply of the Soviet era surplus guns ran out.
You can buy a .380 barrel and a barrel press. They literally take 2 minutes to change the barrel out. I have a 9×18 Bulgarian mak and a .380 Russian double stack mak. The .380 and the 9×18 both use the same magazines too. As long as you stay with double stack or single stack obviously. Never had a failure out of either gun. Pretty much a Walther ppk copycat that tends to shoot better for less than half the price of the Walther.
@@jeremypike9153 I shoot .380 out of my Russian 9x18 makrov all the time never fails shoots great just not as much spice. I use it for cheaper practice but keep 9x18 in it besides that.
You nailed the SCCY pretty well. I bought one 7 years ago. In 2 years I spent more money shipping it back to the factory than my initial investment. It's so bad my conscience won't even let me sell it. They are cheap for a reason.
Your not kidding, in fact that gun is the worst pistol i have ever fired, a lady i know bought it because she said it was cute and i couldn't believe how shitty that gun was, she just sold it and bought an m@p shield.
I’m purchasing the CPX-2 in under a week from now, from what I’ve seen there’s rather mixed results and opinions on it, I’m just trying to remain optimistic about it. Besides, the way I see it, being a broke lad I’d rather have some form of protection that’s not gonna burn a hole in my already empty wallet, so hopefully I won’t have too many issues with it.
You mentioned that Kahr fans are loyal, I don't know if that's related to its owner/ceo; who is son of Moon Sung. He created unification Church. And, his son graduated one of ivy league school. And created and built what is now Kahr Arms. I read somewhere that he also bought IWI, but I'm not 100% sure. I heard hicock45's son always carry Kahr and he mentioned that it's his favorite. I've also heard several other RUclipsrs say similar things. I agree with honest outlaw opinion about Kahr. However, I like csx though and probably buy one in the future.
FYI, the CSX isn't a polymer frame as claimed. It's an aluminum alloy frame... My experience with SCCY is very different. Initially it wouldn't make it through a single magazine without a malfunction. I did some research and found out they had a bunch of bad magazines go out. I contacted them and explained the issue. They checked my serial number and said that it was among those with bad magazines. They sent two new magazines and the gun has functioned flawlessly ever since. It does have a long heavy DA trigger but I've had a lot of experience shooting DA revolvers and found it a very usable trigger. It's not a great DA trigger but it's far from terrible. If you're used to striker fired and single action triggers then you will hate these triggers until you learn how to use them. You have to learn to shoot them but it's not hard. An entire generation of humans mastered it before the invention of striker fired. The build quality is what you would expect from a gun in this price point. Some sharp edges from flashing and such but it flat out works and that stuff is easily fixed. I have no doubt some lemons got out but these aren't nearly as bad as portrayed here.
If you own a SCCY cpx2 go on line and buy the MCarbo trigger kit. it will reduce the nine pound trigger pull to around four or five pounds. big difference. and it comes with a no bull shit warranty you hope you do not need to use.
@@brandiwynter yes and it works on reducing the trigger pull weight. makes a world of difference shooting. you can do it your self. just watch the video more than once. it takes about half hour changing out the factory to the Mcarbo. take your time it is easy. nine pounds down to a little under five. no more sore fingers or shaking during shooting.
Knife-wielding Assailant: "gimme all your money". Victim: "please mister, I don't have any money, but you can have my gun". Slides SCCY backup (decoy) gun to the attacker. Now with assailant knife stowed and getting failure to feed, victim freely draws "real" firearm.
I watch many of your videos..."I'd rather carry a knife..." I swear I almost shot coke through my nose. I carried the Glock 42 myself, love the gun not wild about the capacity. Last year I moved to the Glock 43x, bought 2 shield arms Z9 magazines and replaced my mag release. the firs time at the range I could drive nails with it. and with the overall 31 round capacity. I don't think I can beat it. The Glock 42 will now be my ankle holster backup. Love your channel, great reviews, great information. keep up the good work.
The Beretta tomcat that I had was much better than that Taurus 22lr. Mine shot without any issues and was pretty accurate. Not my choice for carry, but fun to shoot tin cans with.
5: S&W CSX
4: SCCY CPX-2
3: Remington RP9
2: Kahr CW .380
1: Taurus PT .22
I own 2 of those guns.
@@Jim-oo7dk I'm listing what is said in the video.
I'd like to get one of the tip up barrel pistols, either Taurus or Beretta, just for a range toy...our regular carry are revolvers, they work reliably...
@@PetuniaIii-pd1ww Yeah my Taurus PT-22 (tip up barrel) works really well with CCI Mini Mags. Maybe half the price of the Beretta. Every other ammo is iffy.
As a person that has a 1911 style 22 and shot others..I just wouldn’t carry a 22. Rim fire is just not reliable enough. Too many other alternatives out there for similar money.
I work at a large gun store in Charleston SC and I mention this channel to new shooters almost daily. Great informative content as usual.
What gun store is it???
PSA or C&S? Lol I visited both shops on my last trip to Charleston and loved both
Where you at? I'm in Aiken, my next visit I'll stop by.
I do the same. Honest Outlaw is the best gun channel for new shooters/gun owners. I am proud to be one of his Patreon supporters
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Thanks!
I've had the Taurus G2C for 5 years, put thousands of rounds thru it, and it eats EVERYTHING! Steel, brass, rust, with no problem... I actually love Taurus again!!
Thousands of rounds through a Taurus? How many times have you had to use their warranty?
Yep! Love my G2C. Probably the best value for the money in budget level hand guns. Imminently carry-able and very reliable. Great feel too.
@@immikeurnot I have sold hundreds and have had not a single complaint. I am willing to bet you have not had one of their G series guns.
Yep bought one a year ago, nice carry and near half the price of same mainline equivalent..
I started to buy one and even filled out the background check. The store clerk locked the slide back and neither of us could release it. He went into the back room with it and I’m assuming hit it with a hammer but I declined taking it.
Re: Taurus Customer service: As a retailer I have had nothing but good response in addressing issues with Taurus. They've never given me grief about sending a gun back and they always came back running fine.
Previously they had issues answering the phone, and I once waited on hold for over an hour. In the past couple of years since they moved to the new facility at Bainbridge, GA, I have waited on hold as little as 5 seconds (literally picked up before I could change from speaker)and up to 11 mins. Their customer service HAS improved. That said, turn-around on the repairs are still 90 days, so lagging a bit there. As an offset to that, I have had significantly fewer problems to even call them about. Their QC has drastically improved. Most of the problems i get called about are because the person does not know how to treat a new semi-auto. Clean and lube before first shooting, and 200 rnds of decent brass ammo to break in. That's it. I recommend that for ALL my semi-auto sales and live by it myself.
As a customer I couldn’t disagree more. I’ve had 6 different firearms which came from under their brand. All required service in less than a year and one almost took my face off from breach failure. Not one case was handled professionally, promptly, or properly. I only own one of them anymore and that after a competent gunsmith who was aware of the issue with the gun repaired it at my cost. The lock failure turned into a lawsuit/settlement for cost and medical
Calling them was always a huge time suck
I will never buy another from them or for liability reasons sell my last Taurus to anyone
as a gunsmith I have more top shelf pistols come for repair and I cant keep any model Taurus on the shelf, I've actually had Glocks, S&W's traded for a Taurus, I personally carry a G3 or a 740 slim with an PT22 in an ankle holster for back up, also no problems with customer service, and when I order parts from Taurus I typically get them in a few days rather weeks like some manufactures,
thats is really good to hear. I used to purchase handguns frequently and stayed away from Taurus as they were always "entry level" bottom tear handguns... over the last 5 yrs ive seen improvement in their guns but still stayed away. I may now give them a chance
@@NoNameNoFace-rr7li For a budget gun in the sub-compact class it is not bad. Certainly not the worst by a long shot. If all you got is three bills and need protection, I would trust it, again doing a cleaning and break-in first.
@@NoNameNoFace-rr7li My EDC is a Taurus g3, I personally have over 20 Taurus handguns and I trust my life to them daily
As a somewhat novice to firearms, guys like you are so helpful and informative to people like me. I truly appreciate you and what you do to provide a wealth of information.
Keep doing what you're doing!
I couldn't have said it any better myself.
New here myself...anyone know what ammo is good to practice with this gun?
you got some brown on your nose.
I have the S&W CSX. Over 500+ rounds and no problem whatsoever. Its my everyday carry. I love it.
I experienced the same.. great gun. Way better than my SigSauer p239..🤷♂️
My only issue is the bulky weight.
CSX i think mine is all metal he said polymer
@@DougFrench-x1jyes the car is all metal, think it was just a slip up because they weren’t made in plastic
I Carried the alloy framed PT22 as my secondary for years, before my job switched to a .32 or larger requirement. It was very concealable and easy to carry under my vest strap. Never had an issue. I ground the mag followers to hold ten rounds each. Could put 11 rds into a cake plate at five yards, which is all you need for a back-up, get-off-me gun.
Pretty sure 11 rounds is over kill lol
My shopping mall switched to .32acp as back up as well. .22 is totally inadequate. What type of body armor do yo recommend?
@@blakeshowalter safe life vest
Did you know that here in Brazil, Taurus CEO, Salésio Nuhs, wrote a letter to our government recommending that Brazilians be disarmed and no longer have the right to bear arms, even though the Brazilian people are almost being enslaved by a socialist dictatorship with its new ruler Lula ? And that Lula has connections with the Venezuelan dictator Nicolas Maduro, narco criminal, with Vladimir Putin, Daniel Ortega, and several other current tyrants? Lula wants to disarm us Brazilian and Taurus collaborates with the disarmament. If you appreciate freedom, DO NOT BUY TAURUS GUNS AND AMMO FROM CBC! If you ask me why, it's the good old lobby with the new government, which buys ammunition, in addition to market control in Brazil, to prevent competitors from arriving in Brazil.
@@blakeshowalter mall cop? nice.
I bought an old taurus pt-22 when I turned 21 back in 1999 and was told by my local gun store to use cci mini mag ammo and that gun performed so much better using that ammo. I love those little guns. "The old ones that is"
Did you know that here in Brazil, Taurus CEO, Salésio Nuhs, wrote a letter to our government recommending that Brazilians be disarmed and no longer have the right to bear arms, even though the Brazilian people are almost being enslaved by a socialist dictatorship with its new ruler Lula ? And that Lula has connections with the Venezuelan dictator Nicolas Maduro, narco criminal, with Vladimir Putin, Daniel Ortega, and several other current tyrants? Lula wants to disarm us Brazilian and Taurus collaborates with the disarmament. If you appreciate freedom, DO NOT BUY TAURUS GUNS AND AMMO FROM CBC! If you ask me why, it's the good old lobby with the new government, which buys ammunition, in addition to market control in Brazil, to prevent competitors from arriving in Brazil.
I have not one but two SCCY CPX-2. I wasn’t even considering looking at it until the guy at my gun store encouraged me to give a try. Once I tried it, I bought it. I had none of the issues you mentioned. It felt like an extension of my hand. It acquired target easily and without really trying, I was in the black on all 5 targets of a 5 target page. It quickly became my EDC. Once my wife tried it, she wanted it. I ended up buying one for her EDC. Now, we did have issues with the magazine not having a strong enough spring and had a feed problem with speed firing. I called the company and they immediately sent out 4 new mags. Their customer service is second to none. I’m completely happy with my SCCY handguns and would more than likely buy more of their products if they come out with other calibers and styles.
I agree with you I own the exact cpx-2 he has in the video and I have had zero issues with it, and it’s my EDC. SCCY is an underrated brand and it can compete with top brands even being hammer fired.
Same here! I have two of them..both have been great guns!
They must have seriously bad quality control issues everyone ive handled has been hot garbage id rather have the Taurus G3C or G2C i feel like everyone tries to justify saving $20 and weak spring issue in their magazine every one ive loaded felt like i was going to cut my finger on the feed lips
I had a CPX a while ago and you're right about their customer service. I dropped mine and broke the rear sight. I got to reading about the warranty and it sounded too good to be true so I called them. They sent me two rear sights and two front sight posts no questions asked. I was shocked. It's usually a headache dealing with companies trying to get replacement parts.
I bought the same one as in the vid.I had problems with the slide not closing all the way until I rounded off the inside of the magazine feed lips and also polished the feed ramp a little. The recoil spring got distorted from I dont know what,but they sent me a new one which I promptly lost before installing,so they sent me another one,no questions asked. Right now,I have to get around to replacing the new ejector which they also sent me no problem. After that,its getting hollow points and living in my truck in case I hit a deer I need to put down or something. But I'm not too mad at it. For the $265 I spent out the door at the height of covid panic,it doesnt owe me much.
Yes, you can get a "lemon". I have two SCCY CP2's and they are fantastic. No worries carrying it. They are reliable, accurate, inexpensive, and easy to carry. I've never, I mean never, had cycling problems. The ONLY thing I've done is get the MCARBO trigger kits for them....the draw is long and distracting and MCARBO makes them buttery and consistent. I also have so called "high end" weapons that don't come close to advertised quality and function. It's not a perfect world.
I dont think he got a lemon youve got an exception every sccy ive handled was wildly unreliable. My moms recently had a dead trigger caused by dust accumulation in the trigger definetly not a gun for someone who just wants to throw it in the holster and forget about it.
spending 200$ on something that you’re suppose to trust with your life is just a bad idea
@punkstarnet I've shot literally thousands of rounds out of my stevens 320 I paid 125 for.
Never jammed once or gave me any issue 🤷 💯
It's my cheapest gun, and the one I'll defend my house with.
Most of the time if you use a gun for self-defense, it's hard to get the gun back from the police.
I'd rather throw away old faithful and buy another cheap af one than loose my expensive guns
@@thatoneguywithahugethangTBF Steven’s been in the game for a long time, 159 years to be exact. Companies that make nothing but cheap lemons don’t last that long
@@smartfella7914 agreed 👍
My summer carry is a Bersa Thunder CC .380. Winter carry is a Springfield Armory XD-9 Mod 2. Love them both.
Can’t go wrong with the mod 2 I edc the 3.3 .45
4 years the G2C was my EDC I think I have about 1500 rounds through it with only 2 malfunctions (light primer strike & failure to eject). It was great starter gun helped me learn basic pistol fundamatics and a good first concealed carry. Easily some of the best $270 I ever spent!
🔸Today I upgraded to the IWI Masada as my EDC. Got a very lightly used one for $430. The gun store owner estimated it probably had less than 200 rounds through it, & only minimal & hardly noticeable cosmetic wear.
Love the Masada
Bought the G3 three years ago and I've carried it every day since
@@osiris654 y_
G3c is so many betters than the g2c... How you liking the Masada?
@@breckfreeride Haven't shot it yet, lol
BRAVO to the shelter donations. Thank you for the great discussion, and things to consider. I know with gun owners - everyone has their Favs.
I disagree on the Taurus PT-22. I've had one for years. Easy to carry in a jacket pocket, fits my hand very well. I can hit a melon size target out to about 20 yards which is more than enough. I've had occasional misfires but I blame the ammo. I carry it for self defense only, not combat, it will buy me time and space to get away. Nobody wants to get shot with a .22LR.
My SCCY had been 100% reliable. I love it That being said the trigger takes a while to get used to. My PT22 has been great as well but I heard they are hit and miss. I somehow got a good one.
I got both as well and mine work as they should. Guess he has bad luck,
@@lylewollenhaupt7424 The strange thing is my PT22 is more reliable than my Ruger 22/45. That shouldn't happen. We got lucky in our purchases.
I got my CPX2 (in pink..was all they had at the time!) about a year and a 1/2 ago. Put more than a few hundred rounds through it and not a single malfunction. Feels good in my hand and is accurate. No complaints. I usually carry a .380, but I'd have zero issues carrying the SCCY.
True story I've had minimal issues with my sccy
mine has always run 100%
My wife and I have SCCY DVG-1's as our CC. Both have performed flawlessly.
Make sure you keep it spotless and better be able fully disassemble all the sccy ive dealt with dont like dirt and ive had a dead trigger issues several times
Just traded a Sccy pistol because of a dead trigger….
@@snowfers i see its not an uncommon issue
@@straight6fords580 I told the GF not to buy it lol
I have a sccy cpx2, no issues, works fine.
I haven't had any issues with accuracy on the SCCY CX2 and I haven't bought the upgrade kit. The upgrade kit is $78 and I'm sure it would make a massive difference with recoil and rate of fire.
Damn straight
Ya I picked 1 up for $150. For $181 out the door you really cant go wrong. If you want to spend more then you can get pretty much any Taurus for less the $350 🤷
I bought that SCCY on Gunbroker some years back for $189. I had the same issue with the trigger. Shot it once and was unimpressed. Sold it at a gun show and used the difference to purchase a M&P Shield.
Was it an easy purchase and transaction and shipping to your FFL using gunbroker? I'm really wanting to buy one of the new marlin 1895 sbl 45-70 govt lever actions but I can't find any locally so iv been seriously thinking about going through gunbroker but iv never used them or anyone I know, I appreciate any info if you don't mind please, thanks have a great day!
@@CoalMiner379 really easy. As long as Gunbroker already has that FFL in the system.
@@konfidential1911 okie dokie I do appreciate that very much. I'm gonna give it a shot tomorrow morning.
You could've replaced the trigger for under 20$ and solved your problem, and still have a cheaper subcompact than the M&P that works good and holds 10+1.
@@theviolator1074 yeah I had that thought and looked it up and with it being a DAO I wasn’t sure this was before I started doing AR builds so I was uncomfortable changing the trigger. But at the same gun show I saw the M&P Shield for $245 so no big deal because it was a great price for a better gun.
My Sccy has been very reliable. I’ve had it for several years. No issues. I did change out the recoil spring from 16 lbs to a 20 lb
My brother had 2 they both broke the first few trips to the range been good but I'd never buy one.
Sccy was fine I just really hated the trigger pull but the double action was always the best.
I need an education (keep in mind I took gun safety in 1975)- if you are a gun enthusiast, then yes, a semiautomatic pistol is on your list that you might want to consider. If however, you are a regular shmoe who wants to have a CCW weapon simply for personal protection and not hobby shooting, then why wouldn’t you get a lightweight .38 revolver, which basically never fails, and use it with hollow points (i.e. some say that a .38 doesn’t have stopping power)? I just want guaranteed performance, should I need it. Do I think there’s potential for a situation where a 9mm would work but a .38 w/ HPs wouldn’t drop the perp? Not really.
whatever you’re willing to carry.
It's all about what your comfortable with. I'm not 100% comfortable with limiting myself to 5 or 6 rounds with semi autos being so common. If you are in a shootout, God forbid, I'd rather have 7+ with a fast reload.
I've have the SCCY CPX-1 9mm with Crimson Trace optic. Accuracy is spot on, fit and finish is real good. Never had reliability issue. I had a trigger job done because my state requires a 10lb pull from the factory. I love this gun and carry it daily. I have M&P 9 & .45 plus others but love the SCCY.
What state may I ask ,that kind of blows because they come out with a 7-8 lb trigger
@@gunfisher4661 Massachusetts
I the being in Illinois sucked but Massachusetts,NY and California takes the sh!t cake in regards to gun laws. Ya we need a license to have a gun but that restriction is ridiculous.
I have a Taurus G3c and I was praying it wasn’t on your list, happy to know it’s actually your suggested alternative
Same here. It's great for the price as it comes with 2 extra magazines, a coupon for a laser sight, and I really like the double action trigger and extra safeties it features.
Very happy with my G3c!!
@@PeytonAllen1 I conceal carry mine with an Alienware holster. I know it's because of the short barrel but wow it's loud! It's louder than my Glock Gen21 .45 Auto.
As a new personal gun owner who recently got their conceal carry, I absolutely loved watching this video, thank you so much
Never get a permit, and never register any of your guns. Never comply with the ATF aka WTF and never join the NRA or any organization of their ilk or likeness if you want to be a true and proud gun owner. Pay for your guns with cash and stash them in a place where only you and your loved one's know where they're at. Keep a gun in your vehicle and if you ever get pulled over you just simply never mention the gun in the vehicle and if you do that then 99% percent of the time they will never ask you if you have one. Never put any stickers relating to guns on your vehicle. Do not worry about anything the government comes out and says that you have to do relating to guns because YOU DO NOT HAVE TO CONSENT BECAUSE YOU ARE PROTECTED BY THE SECOND AMENDMENT AND...YOUR RIGHT SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED! ANYTHING THAT TAKES FROM THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS NILL. Buy guns, buy more, and more. Stash them, shoot them, be smart, and be free. Just thought I'd give you my two cents.
Watch more videos before making any decisions, also borrow, or rent guns to test them yourself. No offense to the poster of this video, I rarely make my choices based on youtube xspurts.
@@walkingwolf8072Yes your right.. i have huge hand, so what may fit MY hand might be too big for next guy.. Try diff ones, as yu said, rent as many as yu can to find out what fits your hand well.. 👍
It's funny that some pistols I actually did carry "back in the day" are now on my "I'd never carry that" list.
My first carry gun about a decade ago was a keltec pf9. I wouldn't even keep that as a door stop these days 😂.
@@sexytopramen I have a PF9 that runs great! I won't carry it out and about, but it makes a hell of a good "shower gun", seriously. Put it in a waterproof box and hang it from the showerhead, that way it isn't in direct water path but it's there if I need it lol.
Right. My LCP .380 has just sat in the safe since I found the Compact 9mm 12+1.
Glock?
Same here, first carry gun was the Taurus pt709.. never again
I bought the Sccy out of a curiosity and also hated it. I ended up getting a spring kit and it made a huge difference. Shortens the trigger reset and lightens the pull. It's also is ammo picky
I own a sccy .380 and it is absolutely with no modification's the worst trigger pull on anything I've ever shot....feel like I could reload a crossbow easier lmao
@@CARRY69420it's not meant to be a range gun, it's basically does it work OK $150 please.
I recently escaped from the asylum known as NY. I relocated to AZ. As a first time gun carrier, I am finding your video’s very informative. I am so glad I found your show!
Congratulations n your escape! Hope you are enjoying AZ!
I live in that shithole still. I hate it here, NY is a fucking cesspool
Don't vote blue!
@@dlutes2995 thanks. I LOVE it here! Besides the liberal insanity in NY, I’m also disabled after a motorcycle accident and can no longer take cold weather. Not a problem here in North Phoenix. 😁
@@bmxracer2701 never have in almost 40 years of voting. Even before the Regressives came out and admit they want Marxism.
My CW380 is very reliable with Hornady Critical Defense, so that's what I use for carry. It's the only gun I know of that will fit in the dash compartment of my Ridgeline. Other than that I carry it when I'm riding my bike. The recoil is very manageable and it's quite accurate. It is a little tiny thing, but it doesn't make me wish it was a .32 like my Walther PPK did.
Me and my brother bought Sccy CPX-2s, it's one of my daily carry car/truck pistol. mine works fine, but his mag retention was unreliable at first, he had to mess around with it to make it work. It also didn't like his brass. But we only paid $190 for them.
So far mine is fine.
He has no idea of what he's talking about, there is nothing wrong with any SCCY I've ever fired. And I'll bet he drives an electric car.
I have CPX-2 myself It`s been perfect with the 500 rnds thru it so far, I got the oversized frame pins for it as a precaution [ free of course ] then later put a Mc Carbo trigger kit with a 5 lb trigger in it I like it even better now. I hav`nt had any ammo diet issues with 4 different loads I used including +p and accuracy is good. I`m sure it`s not made to shoot 15-20 k rnds before overhaul but it will fill my needs 100%. MY question is if it`s so bad like some say why does glock have one that looks just the same.
I got a SCCY CPX 2 also and have used it for my CCP for 5plus years. Easy to conceal on my hip. I like the extra long pull for safety reasons. You have to make a choice and give and take on a gun. I don't want to ask myself is the safety on or off in a time of emergency just point and shoot. I have a Beretta APX and it kills my hip and back to carry it.
i got the rp9 when they cleared them out for 199 and i have had zero issues. hundreds of range quality rounds through it and dead nuts on. easy grouping.
i have had no issues with my Sccy. no failures, accuracy is great, and red dot works perfect. Trigger takes some practice, but you should be doing this with every ccw. just my opion.
I agree. I have run several hundred rounds through my CPX 2. Admittedly the factory trigger and recoil spring sucks. I replaced the trigger and springs with aftermarket pieces. Cut the trigger pull and reset, and the barrel flip by about 25%.
@@cjones32853 I have considered doing the trigger…just haven’t gone through with it yet…sounds like a great improvement tho!
@@TW-rr6qb Mc Carbo is very affordable and has complete video instructions Just make sure your state law doesn`t frown on it like another commenter had.
@@gunfisher4661 appreciate that!
The 1911 was formally adopted by the army in 1911, but was designed and produced prior to 1911 in various iterations, so has been an incredibly successful and reliable design for nearly 120 years! Thank you John Browning!
Reliable my ass. All gun lovers knows that the german walther p38 was the.best handgun of WW1 AND WW2. The 1911 is 💩. Extremely UNREALIBLE. It was just there in WW2. That's it! But it was a shit handgun. If want to be proud of an american fire arm in WW2, then be proud of the garand. But fuck the 1911. Unreliable heavy dumb ass pistol.
Time to upgrade to the 2011
“Reliable”
1911 .45 is a nail driver. i wont say its for everyone but that is why there is so many calibers and so many manufactures. i cant find a gun that fits me better the my 1911.
@@talltale9760 Those jokes are usually reserved for Kimbers. There are plenty of 1911s that are extremely reliable and the original Colt went 6,000 rounds with no failures in the original Army testing.
I agree with most of what you had to say with the exception of the PT-22. You may have gotten a bad one, it obviously was bad. Years ago I picked one up for about the same reason you did, but mostly because it was small. I could shove it in the pocket of my shorts with a tank top on and no one was the wiser. The only malfunctions came from inexpensive foreign ammo. CCI shot great. Never, in several hundred rounds did I have a failure to feed, extract or eject. Only reason I got rid of it was that my granddaughter liked it. As far as accuracy goes, at 10 yards I found it to be quite accurate. Could have been rated as great if the trigger was a pound lighter. Anything over 10 yards would be questionably prudent. After all, a .22 from 2.8 inch barrel does not have a lot of velocity to begin with. My new pocket pistol is a Taurus TCP .380. All that said, if I am fully dressed, my main carry is a Springfield 1911 in .45. Yes, I believe in stopping power, and as an older Vet, the 1911 was my main carry for several years. Bottom line: I respect your testing and opinions; most of the time.
A Kahr CW9 was my first carry gun. Did like many said in reviews by racking it 200 times before taking it out for the manual recommended 200 round break-in. After about 150 rounds the whole thing locked up with a live round in the chamber. Stuck so bad I had to have the range officer, who was easily twice my size, break it free and even he took about 3 minutes to clear it. Cleaned it and put another 150 rounds through it without a problem. I guess it really did need a 200 round break-in. It was carried for about a year and a half and probably got another 1000 rounds in that time, but I switched it for a Shield when they were doing closeout pricing just before the 2.0 came out. Been with S&W since, never an issue. I will say, the Kahr did serve well once it was broken-in and my reason for picking that over all the other options was the long dao trigger making it always ready to fire, but the long heavy trigger acting as the safety.
That’s funny, my first carry pistol was a CW9 that, like my CW380, never had a hiccup after about 75 rounds. Like you, I was a little freaked out about carrying loaded so the trigger made me feel better, too. Everyone who’s tried it shot it well and without problem. Weird how some people have trouble with them.
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I was interested in the cw9 I rented one. It would stove pipe 1-3 rounds per mag and the slide did not lock back once when empty. It was a shame. The trigger pull was long but very clean through out the entire pull. Accurate for what it was but the other issues I couldn’t get past as far as trusting it for a carry gun.
IIRC, it is right in the Kahr instruction manual that you have to thoroughly clean the gun before doing the 200rd break-in. Apparently there is a factory coating on the gun applied to preserve the finish prior to retail that after a few rounds will totally gunk up the slide, as described here.
All things are not 'idiot' proof . . . have that 'ah ha' moment breaking down the gun, cleaning it, fresh lube, and no more issues.
@@leonarddaneman810 cleaning a firearm before taking it to the range for the first time is just a given for me.
Bought a SCCY CPX-2 about 7 years ago for trigger pull training/practice. Since it has the worst trigger imaginable and second stroke capability I dry fire it and concentrate on the mechanics. It works for me for that specific task, nevertheless, when I shot it (around 300 rounds) it never failed.
The SCCY was the first gun I ever purchased. It's definitely not the best gun you can buy. Mine needed some break-in plus lots of oiling the gun was very dry. Once I broke it in and learned how to grip the gun properly. I never had a reliability issue since. It does have a lot of recoil because it's so small which makes it hard to fire with the atrocious trigger. Once you spend some time dry a firing and break the trigger in. I was able to get some good groups consistently.
@@DreamDg187 agreed, the grouping was not bad at all.
There is an affordable trigger kit that significantly helps the accuracy issues of pull weight
Yeah eventually I think I'm going to get the trigger kit with recoil reduction spring.
I've got one for my wife and the trigger pull was the biggest issue. Can't use cheap rounds or it'll jam or stove pipe. Trigger kit, pointier bullets ,and a set of ear plugs LOL
Glad to see videos of this type!
Caveats: I own the Kahr CW.380 and it works wonderfully for my _small_ hands. Please note that Kahr guns require a rather extensive break-in period. Make sure you follow that.
Also, you had some issues where the slide fails to close. I reload, so I had to learn this: Take the barrel out of the gun; then pick up a round and put it into the chamber. Press the round in with some force with your thumb. Now tip the barrel upside down. If the round does not immediately fall out, then you have an ammo problem; not a gun problem. And not all guns will exhibit this -- even with the same ammo. You're welcome.
The Kahr needing a break in period (read - shitty QC insurance lmaooo) and STILL having issues proved its a shitty gun
@@TricknologistPHD Have you ever owned a Kahr? They TELL you in the instruction manual about the "break-in" period -- and it is a long one. {I have Four Kahrs} Kahrs ALSO have _extremely_ stout springs. What you get for all this, once the gun is broken in, is the softest-shooting small handgun you will ever find or see anywhere. Also, the absolute smoothest trigger -- anywhere. Gun Reviewers never get there because for them, it's "Bang, bang, bang" and if if they have one single FTF or FTE, the Kahr gets a bad review.
Now there are some guns that are made cheaply, and their actions need to be broken in; however Kahrs are well made with tight tolerances and stiff springs _on purpose_ .
The car is very smooth. Get the proper ammo and magazines and one will have NO problems. Customer service is GREAT and they even sent me a replacement spring when I lost mine during cleaning * you are 100 percent correct in that this gun's trigger pull is the best of all!! Great craftsmanship and smoothest pull of all!
I've carried my Taurus g2c 9mm four going on 3 years now I've put about 700 g through it I carry hollow points in it and it has always shot I've only had I use it once for self-defense and it did great it's accurate and when I'm at home I keep it beside my bed I have two of them and my wife has one so big fans of the Taurus g2s and I do highly recommend them
Love my g2c it's my first gun and love it
Good luck.
I have a CW380 as a backup or better than nothing gun for certain situations. Every so often, when I get home, I'll dump a mag I've been carrying for a while before I go in the house. It's never failed me aside from some large mouth JHP. Feed ramp issues. It'll eat & shit hornady critical defense rounds like nobody's business. Only Kahr I own, but I trust it.
A CW380 is my primary carry gun. The only time it's ever had an issue is when I hadn't fired it for a year and the lube was a bit dried-out (it fired the first shot, but didn't cycle reliably).
I inherited a Taurus PT 22. My Dad had bought it for my Mom years ago, and she never fired it. I've ran every type of ammo I could find through it, and it has NEVER completed a full mag without at least one jam.
PT22 is awesome. The poly version didn’t seem to work for many people though. I have no problem at all with the original metal version.
Do a search on youtube. There is an issue with the magazine that can be fixed. I researched it because I see them in the gun shops all the time for around $100. I passed on them because I went with the Beretta Tomcat and am happy with it.
@@SemperParatus1234 I agree. I"ve had the all metal version in .22 and .25 and both were extremely reliable. I've never owned a poly one because they always got bad reviews, but the all metal versions have been nearly 100% reliable. Also, I've had several Taurus pistols and revolvers. Only twice have I had an issue that required sending a firearm back to them for repair, but both times, they were very fast with only a 2 week turn around, and both times the guns came back working just fine.
Definitely a mag issue
My PT22 was notorious for the same malfunctions like in this video. I too assume it was a magazine issue and bought 3 brand new ones (over the course of a year simply because they are SO hard to find) and had little improvement. The biggest help was to lube the s**t out of the gun. I'm talking damn near dip the gun in oil. And I was finally able to get whole mags emptied malfunction free. It still has hiccups but to get 7/10 mags shot with no issues is a major improvement. But STILL wouldn't trust my life with it as a carry gun 😂
Really surprised about the SCCY pistol. I bought one years ago and it has NONE of the problems you mentioned. The blowback seemed really weird. Mine handles everything I put through it including bulk reloads. Never a failure of any kind, period. Lot's of people want great guns but MANY just can't afford one. In all my years I NEVER heard anyone give a favorable opinion ANY HighPoint product. Maybe you got a lemon or I got a Gem. Just my experience....
I have 3. All I did was disassemble the magazine and adjusted the spring and it stop jamming. I’ve had them for over a year and over 600 rounds and hasn’t done it since
I bought a sccy for the wife but she always carries my G19 so I shoot it occasionally. Ive never had a jamming issue, but the blowback is crazy!
Since 2015 same
I have sccy cpx 2 gen 3 and no issues. I like it.
I have the cpx1-rd honestly never had an issue. Already shot roughly 2,000 rounds.
The only good thing I can say about sccy is they do have a excellent service department they are very friendly and very eager to help you get parts or even have the gun replaced.
Probably because their guns are absolutely trash and they have to make up for it somehow
Yea right. Used to work there. Total bs.
@@khb6686 How you gonna tell him what kinda customer service he received? 😂
@@Artistikk
As I have said before I USED TO WORK THERE.
Very interesting video. My wife has a PT-22 that she has carried for 7 years. She has a lot of range time with that pistol and it almost never malfunctions. SHe would feed 200+ rounds at the range with zero issues. It's about as (in)accurate as i would expect for a short barrel .22. I guess she got lucky with hers.
Was it an old one? Or new one?
@@timgibson1364 I purchased it in 2014.
Secret to pt22 & Beretta 21A....
Dont use lead bullets! Always use jacketed bullets. Lead will build up in chamber and case will get stuck.
Note the absence of an extractor on these guns.
I had to send my CPX-2 back to SCCY twice to get the damn thing working. They have a lifetime warranty but SCCY should really improve the quality of their guns so people didn't have to use that warranty and send them back so much.
Have you tried taping a quarter to the frame, then throwing it off a cliff?
You could say you lost sometime then.
@@thefrogking481 I just keep it as a truck gun. It feeds ball ammo at least and I got it on sale for 150. So if it gets stolen, I don't care.
They've been in business 20 plus YEARS !!!
They STILL can't get the SAME DAMN DESIGN RIGHT!!!
They sucked in 2012 with my CPX 2 GEN 2 ....
GREAT CS people... even let me talk to the HEAD GUNSMITH ...
Great Guy.... He quit!!!
It was a deal breaker cause instead of getting better... Problems got worse...
it went from FTF & FTE ....
Solution ??? 3 new mags and a NEW HAT
AND DEN to that "Dead Trigger Pull" U experienced when it got hot which led to hangfires...
Couldn't Sell it...
I GAVE it away!!!
The lifetime warranty on this gun sounds like something out of a south park episode. The gun NEEDS a lifetime warranty considering you'll be sending it back so often.
Mine had feed issues out of the box just like his. The magazine sprigs were in backwards. Once I put them in the correct way it has worked flawlessly for the last 7 years with 0 fail to feed issues.
Maybe I was lucky but my cw380 has never failed to fire or eject. Not even in the break in period. It does have a big flaw IMO, if you dry fire it the firing pin can remain partially extended, preventing chambering a round. If you dry fire when cleaning or whatever make sure the pin is all the way back.
The plastic frame older style 380's have always been more prone to problems. Don't matter if its Kahr, or Ruger or Kel Tec. Kahr CW9 is a perfect CCW auto. Got 2 in the family, mine is 11 years old and my kid's is 9 years old. Both were bought used. Zero problems with FMJ or HP ammo. Love the slimness plus the grip fits a variety of hand sizes.
First pistol I bought was a SIG P220. I've always loved SIG but came to also love the Walthers. I have the pps m2, ppq m2 and pdp. I don't think you can beat them for the price. Not a failure in any of them.
I bought a CCP from Walther and had to fight for a refund because the slide was binding on the frame to where it wouldn't chamber a round without hitting the back of the slide after every shot, I got my money back from that thing and went and bought a Sig 365XL, not a single malfunction from that gun, and it's lighter and has better capacity
I generally tried to stay away from the PPS and CCP line, they both had issues with drop safety (supposedly now fixed), and went through recalls.
CCP is a junk pistol. Only cycles fmj with brass case. Will not cycle aluminum or steel case ammo, nose dives hollowpoints, and the slide hangs up. But... Its as accurate as my 1911 and shoots softer than my shield. I still carry it. It protects my 1911, my 1911 protects me.
@@thebeesknees745 mine wouldn't cycle any ammo, every shot you had to hit the back of the slide to get it to go all the way into battery, the gunsmiths at Walther even told me it was built out of spec and unsafe to shoot and gave me the option to either get a full refund or another CCP, at that point I was sick and tired of the over-engineered German junk so I got a refund and went and bought a Sig 365XL to replace it
@@ksrebelbuck7936 nothing against SIG, I love SIG and own a bunch of their products. However…it’s was technically a German company up until about 2 years ago when it moved headquarters to US. In 1976 the Swiss SIG company partnered with J.P. Sauer & Sohn, and became the SIG Sauer brand you know today, with headquarters in Germany (again, until 2020 that is). Just sayin…when you got tired of one German over engineered “junk” pistol…you went and bought another German brand pistol (P365 was released in 2018 while SIG was still headquarter in Germany). Though since we’re talking technicalities…I believe the actual design of the P365 came out of the Newington, NH offices in the US. Where it was also produced/manufactured.
Wait did I just talk myself in a circle…?😵💫
When you can get a SAR 9 right now for $249 before rebate I can't see why anyone would pay 250 for the SCCY. Good video man.
A good used Shield can be bought for around $250 now. Those pistols are generally in "as new" condition as most people who bought them rarely shot them much.
@@thefrogking481 agree 100%, I tell everyone to look for a used Shield. I bet If you show up with a 2 crisp hundred dollar bills, you could buy it most of the time (particularly the 1.0).
They also have a rebate that'll bring it down an extra 30$
@@bannedbycommieyoutube5time920
Probably can work a 2 bill deal on a gen 1. They're still a great pistol.
@@thefrogking481 or how bout a good ol' used Taurus G2C? Probably As budget friendly yet functional piece around the $250 gun tier.
My PT-22 is a solid performer. Accurate for what it is. It does need to have the chamber wire brushed after 50 rounds or so or it starts jamming. I've found a little extra lube doesn't hurt. Mine has not been particularly ammo picky. I trust mine and carry it occasionally.
Use CCI COPPERHEADS. WANT JAM WITH THESE. MINE IS VERY RELIABLE WITH THESE. THIS GUY DOESNT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT AMMO OBVIOUSLY
Got me a SCCY-2 about 5 years ago for $180
So far, no issues at all, except the long stroke trigger. But, practice makes perfect. I even aced my ccw class seven to ten yards qualification shoot by keeping 10 rounds rapid fire within the 10 ring including 2 required head shots for body armour drill.
Was looking at the SCCY-2 particularly because of that sub-$200 price. I sure do hear mixed reviews on reliability and the trigger. Ended up not buying one, but glad yours is working out.
I love your brutal honesty. The bit of sarcasm thrown in is great too. I’ve been a professionally trained ( including actual college degree and 8yrs at a premier national shooting school) gunsmith for almost 30 years now and it continues to amaze me that people will trust their lives to the cheapest weapon available. I understand that a lot of people are working within a limited budget, however most would be far better off buying a quality used gun over a cheap new one. If the SCCY is available for $250 new, a used Glock or S&W for $300-350 is almost always the better way to go even if it means saving for another month or two. A detail clean and fresh set of springs and you’re good for another 10,000 rounds. Which for most people is a couple lifetimes. Anyway, great content, keep up the good work!
Interesting outlook! I'm an old school 1911 veteran. I carried 2 1911s and a scoped M14 in combat conditions. The extra ammo weight, really helped with my posture! Even in retirement, I own various 1911s.
I carry a 'mini-1911', sig p238. I have the de-horned model, ergonomic & very reliable with decent ammo. Great factory trigger & 3 dot nite sites. I really like the configuration and chunky quality - 1911 fan here for sure -
I’m 1911’s biggest fan in 45 acp and on weekends I Carry my Kimber Pro Raptor ll in a Galco “Miami Classic” shoulder holster(leather) with Wilson Combat 47D mags 8+1! My edc for last decade is my Sig 938 “Rosewood” 9mm made off the 1911 with Desantis Leather mini scabbard for carry and it’s design I’m familiar with & it works reliably and both very sexy guns!#1911❤#45acp#KimberRaptor#Sig938#9mm
My favorite side arm. The 1911 my first handgun
That little Taurus 22 is patterned after the Beretta M21. I used to have several of this model and liked it, except for the blasted trigger, which I thought was awful. But, it was a reliable and fairly accurate little pistol.
I had a Beretta m21 it was totally reliable with everything I put into it. They do have a reputation for being ammo sensitive. It's one of the guns I regret selling. the Taurus has never had a good reputation
@@elund408: True, but their G series compact 9’s are stellar pistols. They might be as good as Sig P365’s.
The pt22 trigger is like 8 pounds and a looooong pull, I hate it too, but mine functionally speaking hasn't been nearly as finicky as most peoples seem to be. They must just be a hit or miss gun. Some are fine and some are boat anchors.
Friend,
Over a decade ago my search for a pocket 380 brought me to the Kahr CW380.
It was used at a pawn shop, and it was at first unreliable with all sorts of ammo.
I discovered upon disassembly that the spring had been cut and was installed backwards.
New factory spring, and zero failures in a few hundred rounds with many types of ammo.
I would highly recommend it for Pocket carry after it demonstrates itself to you after 500 rounds.
Best
PS. Then came the LCP MAX!!
My CPX-2 has never failed me. I've put over 500 rounds through it, and yes, it's hard to be accurate with that trigger, but it went bang every single time
preach fam
MCarbo has kits to upgrade your SCCY CPX-2 trigger and recoil. With SCCY’s warranty and support, and MCarbo’s improvements, you can have a very reliable EDC piece.
@@cjones32853 That`s what I did to mine
Like I said in an earlier comment…he must purchased his at Family Dollar or maybe the Dollar Tree 😂
Mine had feeding issues, firing issues and started to crack around the roll pin.
Gun I wouldn't carry: PHASED PLASMA RIFLE 40 WATT RANGE.
Hey, Just what you see pal.
@@jackbarnes5589 *Loads shotgun with malicious intent*
@@tobiasrex8052 you can’t do that!
@@sasquatchhunter86 *W R O N G*
I’m glad to see a channel give a little love to the canik guns. My tp9 may be the most reliable and affordable gun I’ve ever carried.
I had the tp9 elite sc and it was fantastic in terms of recoil and trigger but I was not very accurate with it with iron sights and green dot sight and it may be just me but it was enough to make me part with it. Now my m&p shield 9 is an absolute beast!!! I can hit my target with little to no effort at 20-25 yrds away
I carry a Taurus g2c and I’m happy with what I got I’ve put over 1000 rounds through no problems yet it’s slim and compacted I like it a lot of people sleep on it
Did you feel it was a bit to heavy?
The weight is good. Accurate as you can be. Easy carry. Only jams with with cheap steel ammo
Gun I wouldnt carry #1: M240
Nope, I got stuck carrying the M60E once......the 249 is lighter, but still too damn heavy.
I'd carry a m240
dude I'd love to CC a B.A.R
#1 ray gun
M249😉
The tip up barrel was actually designed by Beretta to remove dud/stuck cartridges since there is no extractor on a true blowback design
I love my Taurus G2c thing is just right for me
I got one of those when they first came out, and have never had a problem with it.
I EDC my Shield Plus, but still carry my G2c sometimes.
I own a Taurus G2C and a G3 standard both are awesome
My G2c .40 is a great gun.
Looking at the G3.. any input?
@@ccassidy278 honestly I don't have one, but I can't find anyone with anything negative to say about them. I saw G3C online the other day for $183 before shipping with a $25 mail in rebate! I'm still tempted, even though I have a Glock and Walther
I had the Remington RP45 and yeah it was big and heavy because it held 15 rounds in the mag but it worked beautifully. Only issue was the trigger was crunchy and had a long reset. I sold it and got a Glock 30 Gen 4.
I had one too. Got it from Buds for just over $200 new.
It was fairly reliable with Federal 230 grain ball, but not with anything else.
I traded it at a pawn shop for $300 credit, I used it toward buying my wife an M17.
Good times.
For the .380acp people, I would add the Bersa Thunder series, SigSauer P365, and Beretta 84 and 85.
Bersa Thunder is double/single action with 8round mags, and Thunder Plus is double-stack 15round mags.
SigSauer P365 is nearly identical to the 9mm version. Different recoil spring and chamber profile, everything else is the same. Has 10 or 12 round mags.
Beretta 84 and 85 are old and not made anymore, but they are double/single action, the 84 is double-stack 13 round mag, and the 85 is single-stack magazine but I don't remember the exact capacity.
You must be one helluva firearms instructor! I have almost 50 combined years in the Navy and in a follow on career as a federal LEO. Younger, I was a pretty decent shot….older I got, into upper management, and my field skills declined. In my mid-60s now, the Service bought me a firearm as a retirement gift….which was usually what we carried, a Glock 22…..but I knew I’d never carry that, so I asked them instead to get me a Glock 42 (.380)…and I was happy to see that it wasn’t on this list!! As it is, I’ve developed a physical disability that affects my muscular control, and my eyesight is declining. Damn….I hate getting older, and so does my dog. Bright side? My dog and I still have each other! And I can still enjoy recreational shooting, just not quick and confident with the fine motor skills. I bet those folks working in that granary on the other side of that berm….don’t venture to close this way? Enjoyable video, amigo….and Bravo-Zulu on your fire line technique. Be well….and take care.
I feel you. I used to be a pretty good skeet & trap shooter, along with bird hunting. I also used to be a deadshot at handgun the range. I'm 46 now. I'm extremely nearsighted, and I need reading glasses. I'm also disabled, because I developed an adult-onset, genetic muscle disease. It's hard to remember that I was once captain and MVP of my collegiate wrestling team. Those days are behind me, but I still need to be able to shoot decenyly. I can still shoot pretty accurately for the 1st 50 rounds at the range. After that, my muscle control starts to daily me. It sucks, but I do the best I can.
@@DDDYLN Well, sir, from what I see on your videos….you are still pretty sharp. And watching you, brings me back….so that’s good.….and as I said in my post, you must be one helluva firearms instructor. Take care, and I sincerely wish you well, brother.
@@captaincoyote1792 you have me confused with the guy who made the video! I'm just a regular Joe who used to hunt birds, shoot skeet, trap, & sporting clays, & shoot handguns at the range. That said, I agree with you. The guy who makes these videos is too notch. I really appreciate his content.
I just want to thank you for your service sir
Yep getting old sucks but everybody does. Just fight the good fight and trust in God even if it's hard to do.
To each his own, the kahr 380 is 1 of the most reliable pocket pistol I’ve ever seen,shoots +p underwood like a champ(maybe he got his from Family Dollar) but I have had 2,the first was given too me 15+ yrs ago,and one I purchased in 2021,both without without a hiccup…A little smaller than a Glock 380 & Lcp 2…He most be a GLOCK FAN BOY 4 SURE…I own glocks,Sigs and S&W…But my line of work,I must say S&W,Ruger and (Kahr 380) back-up has saved my life several times over 👍🏾 Purchase what u like & works 4 u,here in Metro Atlanta, One place in particular,when u purchase if it’s not working properly in the firing range,turn rite around and return it 👍🏾 And being 6’3” means nothing….I’ve seen Navy Seals 6’8” shoot Kahr, Berettas and even 25 auto with no problem….any firearm is better than a knife or a sharp stick…REMEMBER THAT…. Semper Fi-06 Lt Colonel
Hey, bro- there is no such thing as .380 +P.
@@beavisroadhog9629 are you freaking serious? What rock do you live under ? Any ammo makers that make plus P ammo….. what is the top ? It’s on the box and read the psi. /p specs !!!!
Thanks for taking the time to go over your list of guns you wouldn't carry. Being considerably new to the hand gun market, I appreciate your honest reviews of the choices out there on the market.
I have the little Beretta Tomcat, very reliable and surprisingly accurate. Great summertime carry, but 32 caliber is a little on the small side, so shot placement is even more important than usual.
I had the same Tomcat .32. Loved it ‘til a piece broke during cleaning after only shooting several boxes. Sent it to the factory. Never heard from them for several weeks. Finally grew tired of waiting and called them. They thought they had already contacted me! Turns out the frame was damaged beyond repair! They offered me that I could buy a new one from the factory at a $50 discount!!! I was insulted. Beretta won’t stand behind their product and worse thought I had enough confidence in the broken one to purchase another one!?! WTH?! I politely refused and tell everyone I meet. I don’t care how good a particular Beretta pistol may be, I will NEVER give that company another hard earned dollar. They suck.
I really question the idea of shot placement ability during a deadly force encounter. The scenario is just so different than anything that can be trained for. Both parties are amped on adrenaline and move like jackrabbits after hearing that first shot or draw, it's just insanely fast.
.32 is the smallest caliber I would consider for self defense. I would say .25 is too small and any .22 is either too small or too unreliable. A lot of people say .380 is the lowest caliber they would consider but .32 is practically the same. Yes .380 is going to have a little more energy but both energy levels are not significant enough to matter. Penetration is what matters the most on these small calibers and I have seen plenty of .32 loads penetrate just as deep and sometimes even deeper than .380s.
@@bmx7596 Unfortunately I have been in 3 encounters involving guns and it does happen very, very fast. That's is when the training takes over, without it you are probably right.
Although i somewhat agree , i dont think the criminal your shooting at is gonna stop to ask what caliber it is
I picked up a sccy for $200 when they very first came out with the cpx-2. It being my first
Handgun I purchased I shot it a lot and had very few malfunctions. The main problem I had with them r the triggers and the slide bit kicking back on empty. The cpx-2 is by no means a quality firearm however it does go bang and in the event of having to defend yourself would be better than a sharp stick so I would take it if it’s all I had but that being said I edc a sig 320 full size x series 😂
I installed a "short stroke" trigger kit in a friend's CPX-2 last summer. Much better trigger pull and a clear, discernible trigger reset at about 1/3rd the pull length. Made it into a much better pistol.
@@WhereWingsTakeDream where could I purchase said trigger kit honest question
I bought a Taurus PT22 about 20+ years ago. It was "keyholing" so I contacted Taurus and sent it back to them. Within 2 weeks, I got it back with a test target. After the repair, I had no malfunctions, and could dance a can at 10 yards. The ONLY complaint I have is that the magazine release spring is too light, allowing the mag to drop out if the release button is accidentally pressed.
I had an older PT22. If you look at PT22's Wiki, it looked exactly like that one. It was a fun thing to shoot, once I found the only .22LR round that would cycle it reliably, and that was the CCI Stinger. Anything other than Stingers resulted in exactly what you experienced with it, quite consistently. 20'ish years ago, it was a decent option for a pocket pistol, if loaded with ammo that would cycle it reliably. Today, there are just too many options that are better in every way. I mean, the thing clocks in at nearly Sig P365 size.
I have one and it fires stingers perfect too, but then I read that it's not rated for hypersonic 22lr, be careful! Federal automatch has also been reliable for me. I think it's normally magazine or ammo related when they fail and people blame the gun. Definitely not very accurate but it's tiny so it's to be expected.
Had the exact same malfunction repeatedly. It collects dust in my safe. Did dispatch a possum once with it.
Agree with most of what was said in this review, but I'll say the statement about a less superior gun ballistically - the Beretta Jetfire in .22 short - its what the Taurus was modelled on, but with even less power thanks to .22 short vs the .22LR (not that you'll get much more power in the LR, since there's almost no barrel to burn that extra powder) - my grand-dad had one. SCARY gun - as it was single action with *no* safety. You carried it hammer down, period. He used it as a backup "screw it in their ear and pull the trigger" type gun to his 5 shot J-frame .38Spl Smith & Wesson. It would dispatch a gopher fairly reliably, if you caught said gopher out of their tunnel. It'd also kill rats reliably, if the rat was standing still enough to hit. That's all that could be said positively about that little Beretta.
Did you just recommend a Hi Point over... well... ANY GUN??!🤣🤣
It has been my experience that no handgun ever performs like advertised when it is new out of the box. You gotta break it in, 400 to 500 rounds before it can be judged as a "keeper". You also have to find out what kind of ammo functions in the gun the best. Opinions are like bellybuttons, everybody has one.
Fair
I just eant to be a bit pedantic.
Not everyone had a bellybutton. There are various surgeries, some cosmetic some not, that remove the belly button. My grandmother hasn't had one since she was in her twenties.
Yeah no doubt my parents were so poor they couldn’t afford a belly button for me so I don’t have one. I think the comment was not very inclusive of us without belly buttons. 😢
I've never owned a Glock 19 or 17 that wasn't perfect out of the box.
Great review. I will disagree on the KAHR. Mine has never malfunctioned and I got it in a trade for a Ruger LCP that only ever once ran a whole mag without either failing to eject or feed. I as I am 5'10" and have normal sized hands it is not an issue to fire. Fits on my pocket and with the "extended" mag is reasonably comfortable for me to shoot. Keep up the good work.
Kahrs are good guns read the manual you are to use the slide stop to chamber a round! They also say brake in is 200 rounds and not to slingshot the slide to chamber a round!! Ed Brown guns have a brake in of about 500 rounds!!
I have a Ruger LCP II and I agree, constantly jamming!
The Taurus G2C and G3C are SIGNIFICANTLY larger than the SCCY. I’d say a better recommendation is the Ruger LCP Max. 11rds expandable to 13, fits in the pocket of looser fitting pants. Barely notice it in a holster. I got mine for $330.
No the g2c is about the same size as the cpx2. I know this because I have the g2c, My Dad has the cpx2
CSX has an aluminum frame.
I use to carry a Ruger LCP standard one. It was very reliable but the trigger was not great. I bought a LCP Custom. Great trigger, reliable mire useable sights. I've carried it since 2015. I'm looking for a comparable 9mm easily concealed but not super heavy.
I always laugh when I shoot my og lcp. Trigger pull, half a mile. Sights, lol what are those?
I carried a SCCY cpx-2 had ran around 5k rounds through it. This was years ago however. And have since moved onto Glock.
I run the Ruger LCP Max as my BUG and really like it a lot. It's incredibly small and light.
Someone in the family has an LCP.. not a nice gun to shoot. for that size we picked up Sig P238's and they shoot sooo much nicer.
@WulfmanAlpha the Max shoots far better than the LCP and LCP II. other than the p365 in 380 nothing has the capacity of the MAX.
Terrible gun. In fact, I never shot any Ruger I liked.
I learned my lesson a long time ago. I had started my career with the Sheriff's Dept and back then we carried revolvers. I wanted a small backup/off duty carry so I chose a colt agent model. Paid a pretty penny but when I got home and read the stats I couldn't fire any +P ammo because it had an alloy frame. I immediately returned and talked to the Gunshop owner who suggested a ruger SP101. That thing is built like a tank. I was very pleased with it. From then on, I made sure to do my research BEFORE spending my hard earned wampum on anything I intended to carry! Great video BTW! 😁👍
You can fire +P ammo in alloy framed 1911s.
You just don't want to use a steady diet.
Best course is to train with standard pressure ammo, and carry +P ammo.
Although for 45acp, I don't feel you get much gain running +P ammo for the extra recoil and muzzle flash you get.
45Super is a different story, but I wouldn't run that in an alloy gun.
I applaud you on the SP101 though, great little gun.
Did you go with the 2.25in, or 3in barrel?
I love the 3in version myself.
Although I love the 5 shot SP101 357Mag, the 6 shot 327 Federal sounded mighty appealing too.
Edit: On re-reading your post, I see you were talking about the Colt Agent 38 Special revolver. I was thinking Colt NEW Agent 3in alloy 1911.
But the same would have applied for the Colt Agent. Train with standard, carry +P.
+P makes more sense in a 38 Special.
Just that too much regular +P use would throw off the timing of the revolver.
Colt Agents were good guns though.
They were an alloy version of the Colt Cobra with a little shorter grip.
Great guns for use as a hideaway piece or BUG.
rugers in general over-deliver: solidly built, 100% reliable, and economical
The 357?
Wampum lol smokem peace pipe
My SP101 in .357 is a flamethrower! Really accurate for a snub nose revolver!
I second your comment on the Ruger LCP! I have the LCP 2 and love it! It’s my CCW because it does not jam, it is accurate even at 10 yards, and I can pocket carry it easily.
Same here - I love the LCP2 and it’s original packet holster 😁
For .380s I went with the smith and Wesson bodyguard personally. My family has always been big on smith and Wesson and this was before the higher capacity lcp came out. Haven’t shot it quite as much as I should but I have yet to have a malfunction with it.
I love my S&W Bodyguard. Carry it often.
My Bodyguard is the ideal backpacker carry IMO. Rain, mud, snow won't affect revolver performance.
S&W Bodyguard has one of the WORST triggers of any gun I’ve ever shot. I got one because I liked the integrated laser and the size in 380…shot it a couple of times…and when my finger recovered, I couldn’t get rid of it fast enough.
I only have experience with one of these guns. I bought a SCCY CPX-2 at a local pawn shop for $125 just to try it. I got lucky with mine and had no issues. But yes the trigger is horrendous.
Mcarbo makes a nice spring kit for the cpx 2. Made a world of difference
@@chrish8818 I agree, it does make a big difference and is worth the install but still doesn't get the trigger out of the horrendous zone.
U do realize the "horrendous" trigger is done on purpose, right? That's why it doesn't have a safety. The trigger is the safety.
@@blain2851 Nope. If you've shot one you along with other pistols and compared, it's really just a horrendous trigger.
@@greggc8088 well I'm cool with the horrible trigger pull. It keeps me from shooting myself while I'm carrying chambered and no safety.
My carry over 4 years has been the S&W M&P Shield 9MM EZ. Small, powerful, compact, great grip, ergonomics, and very dependable. Fits me like a glove. Fiocchi 115g FMJ rounds (1195 fps velocity.)
In defense of the Taurus 22, my beretta 21a covert did run for shit either. But the barrel is still cool as hell
The PT22 performs wonderfully with CCI mini mag rounds. The CW380 has been flawless for my wife just like the CPX2 has for myself.
Same with the Beretta bobcat and that has a much better trigger in my opinion.
I like when he was saying how inaccurate the kahr was as the video of him shooting it is playing and all you hear is plates ringing in the distance. 🤨
Wow, you own and carry THREE of the top 5! I worked part-time at a pawn shop so I had a privilege number of pistols that I have " borrowed " and shot. The SCCY was instantly on my least favorites list when it first came in, I didn't even have to shoot it. I did own a Kahr CW 40, that I did not have problems with other than the double action trigger was not my thing and the recoil of the 40 in that pistol went beyond snappy, a comfortable gun to carry, not a comfortable gun to shoot. I have had two of the old PT-22 and I just love them. I'm surprised but glad to know that the new design isn't worth the trouble. Get out there man and shoot some other brands you'll probably trade in at least two of those three for a better gun!
I’m surprised about the SCCY. I’ve bought two and have had zero issues. It’s a little too thicc for my daily carry, but it’s performed flawlessly
I have been considering the Sccy RD, but they only make it in 9mm which is uncomfortable for my wife. Currently she has a spectrum which is uncomfortable to shoot for her also, and a Pavona 380 which is a joy to shoot, but heavy.
Mine has been decent too. Only one jam after shooting it a couple hundred times. Long trigger pull does take some getting used to. It's a perfect gun to keep in the car because I wouldn't be too heartbroken if it got stolen but it's also not terribly unreliable.
@@walkingwolf8072p365-380 is out now, she should try that.
I have a cpx 1 I just got as a gift. The slide pull and trigger pull are both a bit harsh, but after I took it apart and wiped the factory grease out and oiled it it seems to run alot smoother. I personally haven't fired it yet but from what I was told it fires just fine. I've seen lots of good and bad reviews, I think some guns just have a few kinks to work out while others come out perfect from the factory. Most people aren't willing to work those issues out though when they're spending money. Hopefully mine runs nice when I take it out
@@Chudchanning Mcarbo sells a trigger kit for like 20 bucks that helps with the trigger.
This is a great video! I like that you give a close comparison to an alternate gun that will give you much better results.
I was a firearms instructor for a federal agency. I had a couple of guys want to use Kahrs as off duty firearms. The backup course was only 30 rounds but I can’t remember any of them getting through without multiple malfunctions. Not a fan.
Did they read the manual? All of my kahrs have ran and are still running..
The CSX is a aluminum frame not polymer and it works very well. thanks
I have 2 SCCY pistols and used to have a used one. One issue SCCY has fixed is that the pins used to walk out after about 50 rounds. Negatives for SCCY, it's square grips tend to bite and even scrape your hand. The trigger REALLY takes practice to get used to. One thing that got me the most, with it's short barrel it has the WORST blast I have ever experienced with a 9mm. I found it somewhat overwhelming until I got used to it. Pluses, they have an absoulute excellent warrenty and supurb Customer Service with a very quick turn around. Now that I am used to it, I can shoot it accurately and was able to put rounds onto a small target at 21 feet with no problem. Would I make it my number one carry gun? NO! but I do have one ready and would feel confident in using it to defend myself. This is a good choice if you are on a very limited budget. But you MUST practice and get used to it's quirks.
Being a Firearms examiner I have test fired all of these guns and they all are garbage. Thanks for keeping your reviews honest. Too many people just don't have the balls to call a gun crap.
F.E. for State, County or city?
@@segmentavailable city
Sending love from Davenport Iowa keep up the awesome vids my dude
I've owned a sccy cpx-2 for three years now and put a lot of round through it. I've noticed that it really does like hotter ammo. The only reliability issues I've had had been with cheap plinking ammo.
You really have to treat it like a DAO revolver in regards to the trigger. You can stage it, although it is solely by muscle memory as there is no ledge. My experience with them has been okay, and their customer service is pretty darn good.
ive noticed after a few dozen rounds the pins start to slide out
I have about 450 rounds through mine however I changed the trigger springs and recoil spring out from a kit at MCarbo. It works rather well now
I bought a Remington RP9 when they first came out and mine has been great! Maybe I got lucky. But it does have a huge slide and the trigger is mush. But it's fun to shoot.
Rack the slide holdinh it sideways
Never understood how people can say the trigger is crap and fun to shoot in the same breath. Nothing makes a gun horrible to shoot more than a bad trigger
I mean an mp5 is incredibly fun to shoot but the trigger is pretty dogshit
@@hakjobtm7472 In dealing with modern semi auto pistols crap trigger is a no go. They are a dime a dozen so they better be good to be considered “fun”
A friend and I both bought RP9s not long after they debuted. Both have been reliable and reasonably accurate. No match trigger, of course, though its similar to Glock's mashable bang switch. Give it a C grade.
I keep a Ruger ec9s on me and I haven't found anything easier to carry with true reliability. I bought it when they were under 250, now they've gone up. Definitely worth the money
I love the EC9S, one of the best cheaper pistols on the market imo. I think the Taurus G3C is a more reliable gun, but I like them both. Bought mine for about $270, I believe.
My personal favorite little CCW pistol was the Makarov. Basically a Walther PPK in 9x18mm which, when loaded with CorBon hollow points, performed like a. 38 spl +P.
Sadly, this great potential for a concealed carry gun died when the supply of the Soviet era surplus guns ran out.
You can buy a .380 barrel and a barrel press. They literally take 2 minutes to change the barrel out. I have a 9×18 Bulgarian mak and a .380 Russian double stack mak. The .380 and the 9×18 both use the same magazines too. As long as you stay with double stack or single stack obviously. Never had a failure out of either gun. Pretty much a Walther ppk copycat that tends to shoot better for less than half the price of the Walther.
@@jeremypike9153 He didn't say the ammo ran out, he said the supply of cheap guns did.
@@zacharyrollick6169 my mistake I know 9×18 mak has been non existent the last year or so. I didn't see guns or misread it.
@@jeremypike9153 I shoot .380 out of my Russian 9x18 makrov all the time never fails shoots great just not as much spice. I use it for cheaper practice but keep 9x18 in it besides that.
I've got an old Baikal Makarov on layaway at the lgs right now, can't wait to finish paying it off
You nailed the SCCY pretty well. I bought one 7 years ago. In 2 years I spent more money shipping it back to the factory than my initial investment. It's so bad my conscience won't even let me sell it. They are cheap for a reason.
Your not kidding, in fact that gun is the worst pistol i have ever fired, a lady i know bought it because she said it was cute and i couldn't believe how shitty that gun was, she just sold it and bought an m@p shield.
My brother owns one, he seems to like and hasn't had any issues with it. I don't have much experience with it personally.
I disagree
I’m purchasing the CPX-2 in under a week from now, from what I’ve seen there’s rather mixed results and opinions on it, I’m just trying to remain optimistic about it. Besides, the way I see it, being a broke lad I’d rather have some form of protection that’s not gonna burn a hole in my already empty wallet, so hopefully I won’t have too many issues with it.
@@splatter5218 Sccy has a lifetime warranty so the way I see it you can’t go wrong and if they can’t fix it they will replace it 🤷🏾♂️
You mentioned that Kahr fans are loyal, I don't know if that's related to its owner/ceo; who is son of Moon Sung. He created unification Church. And, his son graduated one of ivy league school. And created and built what is now Kahr Arms. I read somewhere that he also bought IWI, but I'm not 100% sure.
I heard hicock45's son always carry Kahr and he mentioned that it's his favorite. I've also heard several other RUclipsrs say similar things. I agree with honest outlaw opinion about Kahr. However, I like csx though and probably buy one in the future.
FYI, the CSX isn't a polymer frame as claimed. It's an aluminum alloy frame...
My experience with SCCY is very different. Initially it wouldn't make it through a single magazine without a malfunction. I did some research and found out they had a bunch of bad magazines go out. I contacted them and explained the issue. They checked my serial number and said that it was among those with bad magazines. They sent two new magazines and the gun has functioned flawlessly ever since. It does have a long heavy DA trigger but I've had a lot of experience shooting DA revolvers and found it a very usable trigger. It's not a great DA trigger but it's far from terrible. If you're used to striker fired and single action triggers then you will hate these triggers until you learn how to use them. You have to learn to shoot them but it's not hard. An entire generation of humans mastered it before the invention of striker fired. The build quality is what you would expect from a gun in this price point. Some sharp edges from flashing and such but it flat out works and that stuff is easily fixed. I have no doubt some lemons got out but these aren't nearly as bad as portrayed here.
Right on the Smith. I wish they did this in double action, I'm not really single action guy..
If you own a SCCY cpx2 go on line and buy the MCarbo trigger kit. it will reduce the nine pound trigger pull to around four or five pounds. big difference. and it comes with a no bull shit warranty you hope you do not need to use.
@@kennylavay8492 I've considered one of the kits. Have you tried it?
@@brandiwynter yes and it works on reducing the trigger pull weight. makes a world of difference shooting. you can do it your self. just watch the video more than once. it takes about half hour changing out the factory to the Mcarbo. take your time it is easy. nine pounds down to a little under five. no more sore fingers or shaking during shooting.
@@kennylavay8492 Totally agree. Made mine much better to shoot!
Knife-wielding Assailant: "gimme all your money". Victim: "please mister, I don't have any money, but you can have my gun". Slides SCCY backup (decoy) gun to the attacker. Now with assailant knife stowed and getting failure to feed, victim freely draws "real" firearm.
This is why I bought the Esee 6. So I can scare them off when they draw their shitty Rambo knife and I don't have to explain brandishing a firearm.
oh u
I watch many of your videos..."I'd rather carry a knife..." I swear I almost shot coke through my nose. I carried the Glock 42 myself, love the gun not wild about the capacity. Last year I moved to the Glock 43x, bought 2 shield arms Z9 magazines and replaced my mag release. the firs time at the range I could drive nails with it. and with the overall 31 round capacity. I don't think I can beat it. The Glock 42 will now be my ankle holster backup. Love your channel, great reviews, great information. keep up the good work.
The Beretta tomcat that I had was much better than that Taurus 22lr. Mine shot without any issues and was pretty accurate. Not my choice for carry, but fun to shoot tin cans with.
Then again, we are comparing a Beretta to a Taurus
Taurus = Beretta knockoff