That's not just 'defending protoss openings', that's defending protoss openings with one safe build! I like going a reaper and more harass style in TvP, but the games are so unpredictable and more of a gamble. And sometimes all we want is just to have some chill games with some very solid defenses. Amazing guide! 10/10.
Met this build a month ago, works amazing for me. got used to having 2tanks 2vikings on time (still nowhere near perfect, having less scv and 5 to 10sec delay on everything), came back to check when to take third gas, and how many marines I`m supposed to have at 4:30 to 5:00. Love this opener, thank you hushang.
Not sure if this is in the cards with your upcoming TvP series, but I would love content about how to proceed with a 3/1/1 +1 timing (especially from a raven based 1/1/1 opening) depending on what Protoss does after 4:00. IE. if Protoss stays on 2 base: do X, if Protoss goes 2x Forge and gateway heavy (no splash) do Y, if Protoss goes Colossus, do Z, etc. I find I struggle to know what the best course of action is at the 6:30ish mark when I look to move out depending on the above and other situations.
Twilight council + lights are blinking faster (check in a custom so you can tell the difference) Normally high level players aren't really confident whether it's DT's or blink until they see lots of stalkers/warp prism/other clues.
Great question Kevin. In these games I didnt scout for the tech at all. Thats why its an easy build, it defends everything without a scout (besides the early game scout to make sure its an expansion)
Thanks for reply I play gold/plat and have 60% plus win rates again terran and zerg.. But protoss is less than 20% cannot figure it out.. But will try this out for sure sooo desperate.
Again, a really great video. I love this opening because the tanks add so much value for pushes too. Granted, I shouldn't be messing with the build since I'm only low diamond, but what do you think of going for a liberator instead of vikings for counter harassment?
Generally good openings.. But in case of DT - I'm not sure that it can be used as a receipt. Your defense was successful only because of 2 available scans, which is not good, because you was loosing economy... Also- ok, you spent scan, the opponent has a chance to drop you again, because you have no tech lab to build raven or engineering to build turret.. So I think it was some sort of luck and not a best practice to use.
That's not just 'defending protoss openings', that's defending protoss openings with one safe build!
I like going a reaper and more harass style in TvP, but the games are so unpredictable and more of a gamble. And sometimes all we want is just to have some chill games with some very solid defenses. Amazing guide! 10/10.
Met this build a month ago, works amazing for me. got used to having 2tanks 2vikings on time (still nowhere near perfect, having less scv and 5 to 10sec delay on everything), came back to check when to take third gas, and how many marines I`m supposed to have at 4:30 to 5:00. Love this opener, thank you hushang.
Not sure if this is in the cards with your upcoming TvP series, but I would love content about how to proceed with a 3/1/1 +1 timing (especially from a raven based 1/1/1 opening) depending on what Protoss does after 4:00. IE. if Protoss stays on 2 base: do X, if Protoss goes 2x Forge and gateway heavy (no splash) do Y, if Protoss goes Colossus, do Z, etc. I find I struggle to know what the best course of action is at the 6:30ish mark when I look to move out depending on the above and other situations.
Hushang your videos are super useful, understandable for newbies too, all wrapped into an enjoyable high level content. Ty, i am impressed :)
Glad you like them!
really helpful video, definitely gave me better tools to deal with Protoss. Keep up the great work!
Great to hear!
What should I be looking for to know it is a blink stalker opening?
Twilight council + lights are blinking faster (check in a custom so you can tell the difference)
Normally high level players aren't really confident whether it's DT's or blink until they see lots of stalkers/warp prism/other clues.
Hi just wondering when you scouted to find the tech protoss is going for??
Great question Kevin. In these games I didnt scout for the tech at all. Thats why its an easy build, it defends everything without a scout (besides the early game scout to make sure its an expansion)
Thanks for reply I play gold/plat and have 60% plus win rates again terran and zerg.. But protoss is less than 20% cannot figure it out.. But will try this out for sure sooo desperate.
@@kevincranfield2471 Haha no worries, it can be a tricky matchup. Come join us on discord as well :) We'd love to have you hangout with us
Again, a really great video. I love this opening because the tanks add so much value for pushes too. Granted, I shouldn't be messing with the build since I'm only low diamond, but what do you think of going for a liberator instead of vikings for counter harassment?
Liberator is okay, but it cuts into your gas so you can only afford 1 liberator or 2 vikings
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Generally good openings..
But in case of DT - I'm not sure that it can be used as a receipt. Your defense was successful only because of 2 available scans, which is not good, because you was loosing economy... Also- ok, you spent scan, the opponent has a chance to drop you again, because you have no tech lab to build raven or engineering to build turret.. So I think it was some sort of luck and not a best practice to use.
Nah, I think it's very good vs DT's. It's way harder to defend with a raven opening
Wait are you like actually “Nice”? I watch a lot of pro Starcraft, have you actually played in DreamHack and all that?
Nope haha, that's a chinese player :)
@@HuShang yeah I was gonna say, lol.