Dont know if you guys noticed. But when Kratos was killing Heimdall. That's the angriest he's ever been since god of war 3. You can see it by his facial expression.
When Kratos grabbed for Gallahorn he missed the first time. That was genuine. Chris was actually upset missing it the first time. Eric thought it was perfect to showcase Kratos' mindset in that moment.
I read an awesome theory on how Kratos actually defeated Heimdal. In short, the spear is the first weapon he trained with and mastered as a Spartan, so he didn’t have to think about his movements or gameplan, his actions were just natural which meant he could clear his mind. This prevented Heimdal from being able to predict his movements which is also verifiable when he said “what is going on in that empty head of yours?” Heimdal also couldn’t predict the spears explosions and after his ego shattered, he stopped searching Kratos’ mind and tried to brawl with him (became sloppy). After he got Kratos angry by threatening Atreus, Kratos reminds himself of his past while choking Heimdal with Mimir telling him “this isn’t who you want to be.” In that moment, Kratos was likely flooding his head with memories of his past which Heimdal finally would have seen. That’s when Heimdal truly saw Kratos and called him a monster with his last breath. Just a theory, but very fitting I believe!
this is supported by the fact that when he fights with the axe against thor he makes plans and does specific attacks to dissarm the oponent. like when he threw the axe to make a pillar fall on thor and he said "smart, smart won´t stop me"
Good point about heimdall abandoning the mind games and trying to brawl, going pound for pound with kratos is never the move even for Thor Spell check isn’t always your friend 👀
When Heimdall threatened Atreus we all knew it was a wrap. He just signed and sealed his own death certificate unknowingly but we knew and just shook our heads.
He had the ability to see people's intentions but he had never met anyone like Kratos who knew how to fight one way and think another, it's how he controlled his anger. If you watch Kratos swing at him it's the exact same way every time, so he never expected when he blocked for Kratos to grab him and move to a totally different fighting style.
The Herald of Ragnarok title was given to Heimdallr because he wielded gjallarhorn. The horn Kratos picked up. It is said that when Ragnarok starts gjallarhorn will be sound. Odin gave it to Heimdallr since Heimdallr was the watcher of Asgard. There are such things called Heralds of War or battle. Both are just in reference to something summoning the call to rise up.
I love when Kratos was throwing his volley of punches he noticed Heimdall block with his right arm and he anticipated it the second time knowing that was his chance to land a hit by grabbing the arm and moving it out of the way of his strike. It shows how experienced he is. My favorite moment in the entire game.
So glad u guys remembered the Hermes fight as this is the exact same situation. Hiemdall had never been touched the same way Hermes had never been caught bc of his speed so they become arrogant which is their eventual undoing. Neither of which had any real combat prowess.
Highly disagree on Heimdall, he had real combat prowess, even after his speed advantage was reduced he was still kicking ass, Hermes was just a one trick pony
as much as I don't like heimdall, atleast he could somewhat back up with what he said since he actually had skills. Hermes on the other hand was just a little fast and talked mad shit for no reason 😂
@@lewd2851Hermes literally hurt his leg before he even got a chance to fight kratos . He was already injured by the time you got to fight him because he was acting cocky and caught a stray to his leg which prevented him from fighting properly. People forget Hermes literally killed titans in the past according to the data book. He is no joke.
@@zy1anyou have to be incredibly ignorant to say Hermes couldn’t fight. Hermes was literally injured by the time he got to fight kratos because he was acting cocky which made him catch a stray from the rock kratos launched which badly injured one of his legs which was literally leaking every before kratos encountered him in that small area where they fought. Literally the only reason kratos caught him was because Hermes was acting cocky and kept slowing down or running ahead of kratos and then laying down on the ground mocking him. People forget Hermes is literally faster than Zeus who can literally move as fast as lightning. Hermes had also slayed several titans according to the god of war data book.
Heimdall called himself the "Herald of Ragnarok" not bacuase he thought he was the 'hero' of Ragnarok, but because he was tasked with wielding the Gjallarhorn, which when sounded, signifies the beginning of Ragnarok.
Bifrost is a type of energy certain enemies use. It basically does extra damage. Kratos can also find equipment to use bifrost against enemies. Yngvi is the nickname Freya alone calls her brother. Im guess it's a sibling thing cuz he has one for her. Queen mistletoe was a insult and him mocking her sons death cuz that's what broke his immortal curse. Extreme attention to detail. If you notice the first hit Kratos gets on Heimdall is with the ring, which makes that gash across his eye. You can tell that kill hit hard for Kratos because this is the first time someone he killed called him a monster but he was actually trying to change his ways. He's conflicted because he thought he changed but the love for his son caused the old nature to come out.
Finally. I am sure someone else will mention it but when Kratos grabs Gjallarhorn off Heimdall's corpse and misses it...that was unintentional. Christopher judge was frustrated he kept missing it and they kept that take because they felt it fit Kratos more than snatching it off flawlessly.
I like how mimir knows kratos past but the sheer shook on his face when he sees just how angry he can get when he killed heimdall that’s the angriest he’s been since Zeus
Not only that was the angriest. Kratos saw his past and heimdall said the word that hit kratos deep. "Athena : you will always be a "monster". Who knows maybe heimdeall read his mind during that also.
Did anyone else clock that "you think you just get to walk away?" Is also one of the things Hera said right before Kratos killed her from aggravating him love a subtle call back.
heimdall was saying he’s the herald of ragnarok because in norse mythology, it was said that heimdall would blow the gjallahorn (the one kratos took off his body) and it would begin ragnarok
The director said the entire time Kratos was trying to avoid the conflict with Heimdall as they essentially knew how it was going to end. He was walking into fates clutches. He told the animator that it needed to be “dirty” as kratos was always willing to go above and beyond to protect his son.
Hiemdals death was so well written because he deserves and it feels good (for kratos and the audience) but it also puts you on edge due to its implications....the best is yet to come
Ive always liked how Freya, who has known Heimdall for hundreds of years, immediately knows Kratos is going to kill him (even tho Kratos' reputation proceeds him, he has constantly stated not wanting to fall back into his old ways, so Freya could have chose not to have much confidence). Also, the change in Freyas voice from intense/harsh, to sounding more calm and collected after her and Kratos reconcile (as best they can at the time) is a nice detail
I remember liking this fight a lot lore-wise when someone explained how Kratos beat Heimdall. So remember when Odin said that Heimdall could read minds, which is how he avoids hits. Well some people have theorized that because Kratos has been fighting for so long, that his attacks are just second nature and he doesn’t require thinking about his next attacks. The spear did give the element of surprise, but Kratos was adapting to the fight as it went on and Heimdall couldn’t keep up without relying on his powers.
This is in a way a callback to the Hercules fight in God Of War 3. Kratos gave Hercules amply opportunity to Not Do This before their fight began. Kratos gave Heimdall 2 opportunities to live during their fight, one right after another. If both Hercules and Heimdall had listened to Kratos then they could've lived.
So Dig This The reason Kratos is so calm now Is that when he left after the terrible and tragic events in Greece. He swore an oath to himself that he would never again let his anger take control of him. It just simply costs to much pain and destruction. Once he arrived at his new home in Midgard And met his new wife and had a child He would leave for long periods of time and look for fights but he would not fight back he would take the beatings as a way of learning to control his anger. He would even fight the largest bears 4 at a time but he would never hurt of kill them. The old Kratos would’ve let loose the second Baldur put hands on him. Just imagine the chaos old Kratos would’ve created.
Also also, in norse mythology Heimdal did have golden teet, her could hear the grass growing and could see very far.. And his steed gulltopr means Golden Top i think.
15:53 my guess is Heimdall's arm was nearby, which would have prompted easily the best taunt ever "need a hand?" holding the hand out to the downed Heimdall
Hiemdall called Freya "Queen Mistletoe" coz she made a deal with nature to grant her son Baldur immunity over death.....all but the mistletoe which in the end, Loki used as arrows and tricked another to kill Baldur with it....same green arrowhead that pierced Baldur when he punched Atreus( loki) in GOW 2018.
To be fair Kratos gave Heimdall two chances to walk away from the fight but the Aesir are either too proud or stubborn to walk away from a fight. It’s like what the Norns said, “we are the sum of our choices” so his death being preordained is more on heimdalls stubbornness to blame for his death rather than kratos wanting to end the Aesir.
Another great interpreation by the creators of this game. Heimdall was one of the more powerful of the Aesir gods, but he had to be- he was the one responsible for guarding the bridge that connected Midgard to Asgard (called The Bifrost Bridge); but just how the writers of this game took Baldur's invulnerability and twisted into something opposite of the original myths (where Baldur was a god of light and beauty, know for his gentle nature), Heimdall's vigilance was turned into something . . . unpleasant. :) Also, did you notice how Heimdall (really, any Aesir god who interacts with her) refers to Freya as "Frigg"? In the "traditional" myths, Freya and Frigg are 2 different goddesses. Frigg is Odin's wife (essentially, the Norse version of Hera), while Freya leads the Vanir gods along with Frey/ Freyr. Another inspired move by this game's writers to make them one goddess (albeit it a very CONFLICTED goddess).
It's just like the Norns said, they may have changed on some level, but as soon as the right circumstances happened, they just go back to how they were before, the character growth they made is only surface level, they did not change in the inside and it is just like the Norns says about Kratos: Kratos still kills gods, but now he is sad about it. god, when put to that prespeectivve from FatBrett's video on Kratos, it just makes more sense
Throughout my entire gameplay of God of War 2018 and Ragnarök I noticed that all Kratos kills are far more tamed than what his kills used to be part form the fact that he's over a thousand years old, but the times you get to see that classic Kratos Brutality is when him, Atreus or Freya are fighting an Ogre, a Troll, or a Wolver, like here at 5:53 for example you see that classic gorey Kratos Brutality. 10:00-12:42 DING DING DING DING GAME TIME! Kratos vs Gulltoppr, Victor: Kratos 12:42- 15:00 Kratos vs Heimdall Round 1, Victor: Kratos My thoughts: The first round is trying to hit heimdall and the spear exploding and creates an opening but is still weaving the attacks at 13:03, but when i finally got a hit on heimdall at 13:29 it was finally game-time. But he really pissed me off to a certain degree. The only reason i did not second try this fight this was because of Mimir at 14:23. "C'mon, brother. You hit him once-just gotta find the right opening! Heimdall: You think you get to just walk away? No, that is not how this works. You are dead, sunshine! 16:30-18:18 Kratos vs Heimdall Round 2 Victor: Kratos My Thoughts: The second phase of this fight took an interesting turn, guys like heimdall, who are so calm, cool to just being crazy after getting they ass whooped and being disrespected, was the last straw, plus there's some dialouge that cut out in this because when Heimdall said that i was like "Ok see that's where ya messd up you don't threaten a childs life in front of a parent." Heimdall: I am going to find that little mongrel of yours and beat his face into a pulp! My reaction at 17:47. MINK, MINK, SIT DOWN! YEAH, YEAH! Mimir: This isn't who You want TO BE! Me: I'm sorry but he's not really giving me a choice right now. Mimir: I don't know if we're breaking fate or fate's breaking us. Me: It's a little bit of both mimir. Another classic Kratos Brutality, 21:21 Here at 22:00 -23:13, and it was such a rush of excitement cause with was just being a damn tank at this point, and it was awesome. 24:52: Freyr: Relax. Me: Of course, the boat flies. Atreus: I... I knew it could do that. Me: Hmmph, no you didn't. And after i was done with this "MAIN QUEST" i immediately went after Birgir to see if he was dead or not i know that no one's surviving a fall like that but going after him open up more spots for Vanaheim.
Also Odin did hint earlier in the game to Atreus how heimdal can be defeated... Remeber when Odin said that "Heimdal is very perceptive but forgets to think sometimes"? Well here is the proof xD
Funny part of Heimdall fight, when he reaches for the horn and missed it, it wasnt supposed to and the actor got pissed and thats why he was so forceful on the second grab.
you're thinking Skal not Skoll Spelled variably as Skål, Skál, Skaal, Skoal, or Skol (depending on country and how it's transliterated in English), it's the ubiquitous Scandinavian “cheers” that no drink of aquavit would be complete without. that's ripped straight off the Wikipedia said the same just spelt different Skoll is the wolf Skal is the Cheer
I mean, Heimdall was gonna keep coming. You tried to let him go, and he took that as an insult. "You don't get to pity me, you don't decide my fate, I'm do this, imma do that." all that fly shit. And Atreus would never be safe, ever. And you know he wasn't just talking shit, you know he's gonna do it. Heimdall calling Kratos a monster while he was just talking about taking the kid's guts out and beating him to death. So, it's like "alright, then get fucked then." Heimdall gave me Homelander vibes and American Psycho vibes when he started to laugh out after he lost his arm. I just got to like villains like Heimdall that act like bullies, among other things
I can't wait to see your channel get bigger I'm subscribed recently I had the privilege of being able to binge all of your god of war reactions 10/10 keep going you guys are going to become a big channel for sure and now I officially have to wait for future reactions to God of war lol but I'm so excited because trust me "all hell brakes lose" is an understatement I just got done playing the game a week ago and I'm excited to see what you guys think.
I'm sorry but that Viking, Birgir's sacrifice was completely unearned. He did not get enough character development for anyone to really give a damn about. Even Tasha was like, "Am I missing something?"🤣
Odin mentioned that Heimdall forgets to think through the consequences of his actions, and here we see that it's his downfall. He demonstrably forgets to think, throughout the entire battle. He doesn't think through the consequences of catching the spear. He just does, because he wants to mock Kratos... Then it explodes in his face. He does learn this time, and doesn't catch it anymore. He just knocks it away with his sword. He doesn't think through the consequences, such as where the spear landed... and then it blows up at his feet. He learns again, and now parries, then dodges out of the way of where it lands. He doesn't think through the consequences, like how those spears stay there... until he dodges right over one he parried earlier. Every time, he gets angrier and angrier at Kratos, when in reality he's angry at himself for *not thinking.*
what else could have been done i mean he kept taunting and threatening and provoking. such understanding is there for kratos. but when they tortured me relentlessly , until i broke and did the terrible things i never imagined i could do, how long and hard i loved through all the abuse, until i became the abuse. why cant any one understand that for me? i did what i did because i was cornered and traumatized and broken. no one sees that, no one ever sees that. broken mind, broken body, broken. love is the most important thing in life. no one understands this. may all our thoughts come from a space of love. im tired of being the only one to care this much. the pain that i carry is the love that i withhold. transform it all into love for everyone. thats what i do. but its not working. all i get is abuse and judgement , insult and disrespect, hate.
Heimdall can see the truth in the eyes of people. He accurately called out Atreus when he first went to Asgard. He spent the entire fight angering Kratos. In his final moments he didn't see Kratos. He saw the Ghost of Sparta. The monster.
Also another interesting fact you might not know is that in Greek mythology there actually is a God know as Kratos and he is the God of and the Living personification of strength itself hence why kratos basically has infinite strength in his prime
Feel like the main criticism with this scene is he's suppose to be losing control but we seen what losing control is in God of War 1-3. I mean this is a guy that beat his father so hard he was blinded by the amount of blood covering his face. They really should have went further with this.
I'm going to comment two viedo's you guys should check out related to GOW, one is the Kratos has had enough series, its is super funny. and the other will be the holding out for a hero song played to the escape that is going to happen in this ep.
I recommend you watch Heimdall, the imperfect tool character, explained to fully understand his character and role in the story rather than just being an Arsehole. Of course after you finish the game
“He should’ve let Freya kill heimdall to prevent the prophecy” sorry to break it to you but Freya literally couldn’t beat heimdall. That’s why she kept nagging kratos to kill heimdall after hearing the prophecy because she thought heimdall couldn’t be beat so when she heard kratos was destined to kill him she kept begging to go through with it. There’s a reason heimdall is not afraid of anyone besides Odin and that was because Odin was the only god who knew how to get around his foresight ability.
monster, i know what it feels like to be a monster. everyone loves kratos, yet he has slaughtered countless children animals and women and loving peaceful good hearted men. do you all understand this? people are so confusing. in my deeply traumatized and demented past, i did something cruel and monstrous, then when i realized what i did, i became terrified, at my self, in a panic i attempted to bring my victim back to life, i was successful. i fought to save the life i almost took. the abuse and trauma people have given me as i try so hard to be good and loving had twisted me into a psychotic monster. i was driven mad. people abused me and traumatized me like i deserved it, judged me like i was some kind of animal or monster, when all i care about is love, until they broke me, and i became the monster they wanted to see. people told me i am absolutely terrifying. i absolutely terrified my self too. why do people love kratos, he has done so much worse than my worst. why do people abuse me when all i ever did was love everyone so much. none of you have ever made any sense . i dont understand any of you. you love this monster, but i was a golden hearted angel of compassion care and love and respect, and all ive ever known is loss. all my abusers were nice friendly smiling normal seeming people like all of you. how can i trust. i feel like prey in a world of only predators. hurt people, hurt people. so loving everyone is the most important thing in my life. yet, everyone i have ever met or encountered is an abusive monster waiting to hurt me. and if keep loving you people in the face of your mistreatment, youll keep terrorizing me and mess with my head and heart until i break, and lash out giving you a real actual reason to feel justified abusing me like i deserve it. then i am punished and ruined for it. judged for it. it is truly maddening. i dont need to know any of you, to know theres something wrong with all of you, youre all dangerous toxic cruel abusive monsters wating to happen. all it takes is a little rub the wrong way, a little misunderstanding. you think theres something wrong with me of course, i know how i sound to all of you. its because none of you will ever face the realities i have. all the darkness traumatized into me, it doesnt belong here with me. look at what people have turned me into. people want this instead of the love and light i want for everyone. kratos, is loved, by all of us. youre all so confusing i dont understand you crazy people. ive been thinking, maybe to change my life and be loved, i have to change, stop being so loving and kind and respectful, stop wanting friends or family or love all together, is that the way to have it? being loving and sweet has never done anything but allow people to traumatize me. maybe the problem is that i want to be loved .
Fun fact : people associated heimdall to Hermes ( in mithology heimdall and Hermes aren't "evil" ) the reason Is because in gow 3 hermes Is an arrogant and conceited and he Always Say that he's the Faster in the universe,heimdall too he's arrogant, conceited, he's even fast too but not like Hermes,and he's violent, i mean yeah he's literally a norse version of Hermes ( i talking about the games not myth) and Kratos "robbed" his horn as he robbed Hermes boots
If Freya had stayed to fight Heimdall instead of Kratos, she would've lost. Kratos was the only one prepared to fight him, and also, prophecy. Kratos was always gonna kill Heimdall, after all, the game IS called God of War: Ragnarok. And Kratos has never celebrated any death, not while we played as him, anyway. And it's not that Heimdall had a misconception of his fate, he had a massive ego. He spent his lifetime believing that he was untouchable, only to suddenly get completely wrecked by some brute from a foreign land, and his ego couldn't handle that. Also, Baldur didn't really "want to die", he just wanted to feel something, anything.
Dont know if you guys noticed. But when Kratos was killing Heimdall. That's the angriest he's ever been since god of war 3. You can see it by his facial expression.
Oh yeah, after Heimdal flat out told Kratos he was gonna kill his son, it was old school Kratos from that point
Kratos be like : i will not regret killing you 🤬
When Kratos grabbed for Gallahorn he missed the first time. That was genuine. Chris was actually upset missing it the first time. Eric thought it was perfect to showcase Kratos' mindset in that moment.
Feel like it should have played out more in his actions. It's pretty weak what he actually did just in comparison to anything out of 3.
@@dagonofthedepths Damn dude. Ok. No need to ruin the vibe
Mimir hardly ever calls Kratos by name but after he killed Heimdall you can tell he was shook
I read an awesome theory on how Kratos actually defeated Heimdal. In short, the spear is the first weapon he trained with and mastered as a Spartan, so he didn’t have to think about his movements or gameplan, his actions were just natural which meant he could clear his mind. This prevented Heimdal from being able to predict his movements which is also verifiable when he said “what is going on in that empty head of yours?” Heimdal also couldn’t predict the spears explosions and after his ego shattered, he stopped searching Kratos’ mind and tried to brawl with him (became sloppy). After he got Kratos angry by threatening Atreus, Kratos reminds himself of his past while choking Heimdal with Mimir telling him “this isn’t who you want to be.” In that moment, Kratos was likely flooding his head with memories of his past which Heimdal finally would have seen. That’s when Heimdal truly saw Kratos and called him a monster with his last breath.
Just a theory, but very fitting I believe!
And an amazing theory at that
this is supported by the fact that when he fights with the axe against thor he makes plans and does specific attacks to dissarm the oponent. like when he threw the axe to make a pillar fall on thor and he said "smart, smart won´t stop me"
So basically Heimdall saw GOW 1 - 2 & 3 and was like: "What, are you?!" 😅
Good point about heimdall abandoning the mind games and trying to brawl, going pound for pound with kratos is never the move even for Thor
Spell check isn’t always your friend 👀
"You do not get to decide MY FATE!"
He says right before deciding his own fate. I love this game.
Heimdal getting off-ed was one of the most satisfying parts of the game.
When Heimdall threatened Atreus we all knew it was a wrap. He just signed and sealed his own death certificate unknowingly but we knew and just shook our heads.
18:06, when Kratos was choking Heimdall to death, he read Kratos's anger and called him a monster.
He had the ability to see people's intentions but he had never met anyone like Kratos who knew how to fight one way and think another, it's how he controlled his anger. If you watch Kratos swing at him it's the exact same way every time, so he never expected when he blocked for Kratos to grab him and move to a totally different fighting style.
Some one also mentioned Kratos fights mostly on instinct. He doesn't think, his body just moves on its own.
The Herald of Ragnarok title was given to Heimdallr because he wielded gjallarhorn. The horn Kratos picked up. It is said that when Ragnarok starts gjallarhorn will be sound. Odin gave it to Heimdallr since Heimdallr was the watcher of Asgard.
There are such things called Heralds of War or battle. Both are just in reference to something summoning the call to rise up.
I love when Kratos was throwing his volley of punches he noticed Heimdall block with his right arm and he anticipated it the second time knowing that was his chance to land a hit by grabbing the arm and moving it out of the way of his strike. It shows how experienced he is. My favorite moment in the entire game.
So glad u guys remembered the Hermes fight as this is the exact same situation. Hiemdall had never been touched the same way Hermes had never been caught bc of his speed so they become arrogant which is their eventual undoing. Neither of which had any real combat prowess.
They have the potential to be the most powerful gods if they actually trained
Highly disagree on Heimdall, he had real combat prowess, even after his speed advantage was reduced he was still kicking ass, Hermes was just a one trick pony
as much as I don't like heimdall, atleast he could somewhat back up with what he said since he actually had skills. Hermes on the other hand was just a little fast and talked mad shit for no reason 😂
@@lewd2851Hermes literally hurt his leg before he even got a chance to fight kratos . He was already injured by the time you got to fight him because he was acting cocky and caught a stray to his leg which prevented him from fighting properly. People forget Hermes literally killed titans in the past according to the data book. He is no joke.
@@zy1anyou have to be incredibly ignorant to say Hermes couldn’t fight. Hermes was literally injured by the time he got to fight kratos because he was acting cocky which made him catch a stray from the rock kratos launched which badly injured one of his legs which was literally leaking every before kratos encountered him in that small area where they fought. Literally the only reason kratos caught him was because Hermes was acting cocky and kept slowing down or running ahead of kratos and then laying down on the ground mocking him. People forget Hermes is literally faster than Zeus who can literally move as fast as lightning. Hermes had also slayed several titans according to the god of war data book.
Heimdall called himself the "Herald of Ragnarok" not bacuase he thought he was the 'hero' of Ragnarok, but because he was tasked with wielding the Gjallarhorn, which when sounded, signifies the beginning of Ragnarok.
Bifrost is a type of energy certain enemies use. It basically does extra damage. Kratos can also find equipment to use bifrost against enemies. Yngvi is the nickname Freya alone calls her brother. Im guess it's a sibling thing cuz he has one for her. Queen mistletoe was a insult and him mocking her sons death cuz that's what broke his immortal curse. Extreme attention to detail. If you notice the first hit Kratos gets on Heimdall is with the ring, which makes that gash across his eye. You can tell that kill hit hard for Kratos because this is the first time someone he killed called him a monster but he was actually trying to change his ways. He's conflicted because he thought he changed but the love for his son caused the old nature to come out.
Finally.
I am sure someone else will mention it but when Kratos grabs Gjallarhorn off Heimdall's corpse and misses it...that was unintentional.
Christopher judge was frustrated he kept missing it and they kept that take because they felt it fit Kratos more than snatching it off flawlessly.
Getting closer to the final act of this games story! Really enjoy your reactions and discussions afterwards
I like how mimir knows kratos past but the sheer shook on his face when he sees just how angry he can get when he killed heimdall that’s the angriest he’s been since Zeus
Not only that was the angriest. Kratos saw his past and heimdall said the word that hit kratos deep. "Athena : you will always be a "monster". Who knows maybe heimdeall read his mind during that also.
That hit hard the second time around. I didn't catch him mutter "monster" but yea, it instantly made me think of Athena.
Did anyone else clock that "you think you just get to walk away?" Is also one of the things Hera said right before Kratos killed her from aggravating him love a subtle call back.
heimdall was saying he’s the herald of ragnarok because in norse mythology, it was said that heimdall would blow the gjallahorn (the one kratos took off his body) and it would begin ragnarok
The director said the entire time Kratos was trying to avoid the conflict with Heimdall as they essentially knew how it was going to end. He was walking into fates clutches. He told the animator that it needed to be “dirty” as kratos was always willing to go above and beyond to protect his son.
Hiemdals death was so well written because he deserves and it feels good (for kratos and the audience) but it also puts you on edge due to its implications....the best is yet to come
Ive always liked how Freya, who has known Heimdall for hundreds of years, immediately knows Kratos is going to kill him (even tho Kratos' reputation proceeds him, he has constantly stated not wanting to fall back into his old ways, so Freya could have chose not to have much confidence). Also, the change in Freyas voice from intense/harsh, to sounding more calm and collected after her and Kratos reconcile (as best they can at the time) is a nice detail
That negative atmosphere you're feeling only gets worse as you go. But, as the saying goes, it has to get worse before it gets better
I remember liking this fight a lot lore-wise when someone explained how Kratos beat Heimdall.
So remember when Odin said that Heimdall could read minds, which is how he avoids hits.
Well some people have theorized that because Kratos has been fighting for so long, that his attacks are just second nature and he doesn’t require thinking about his next attacks.
The spear did give the element of surprise, but Kratos was adapting to the fight as it went on and Heimdall couldn’t keep up without relying on his powers.
The fact no one gets hemidal jokes is crazy to me from queen mistletoe to calling her brother sizzles was funny to me
This is in a way a callback to the Hercules fight in God Of War 3.
Kratos gave Hercules amply opportunity to Not Do This before their fight began.
Kratos gave Heimdall 2 opportunities to live during their fight, one right after another.
If both Hercules and Heimdall had listened to Kratos then they could've lived.
Welp… HAPPY Ragnarok everyone!!!!
The "FOR VANAHEIM!" Moment actually made me tear up lmao.
A really fun part! Heimdalll got what was coming to him! Can't wait to continue the journey!
“He from atlanta” 😭😭😭
i really wish they did more with heimdall in the story. I always thought he was pretty badass lol.
I know Kratos going back to his old ways is wrong but hot damn did I enjoy watching him killing Heimdall
Birgir having that main character moment for a bit was one of my favorite scene the game 😂
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17:38 in Norse mythology, Heimdall signals when ragnarok begins by blowing Gjallarhorn
So Dig This
The reason Kratos is so calm now
Is that when he left after the terrible and tragic events in Greece.
He swore an oath to himself that he would never again let his anger take control of him.
It just simply costs to much pain and destruction.
Once he arrived at his new home in Midgard
And met his new wife and had a child
He would leave for long periods of time and look for fights but he would not fight back he would take the beatings as a way of learning to control his anger.
He would even fight the largest bears 4 at a time but he would never hurt of kill them.
The old Kratos would’ve let loose the second Baldur put hands on him.
Just imagine the chaos old Kratos would’ve created.
I wish the videos were longer I love the god of war series I can't wait for a red dead redemption 2 reaction
Also also, in norse mythology Heimdal did have golden teet, her could hear the grass growing and could see very far.. And his steed gulltopr means Golden Top i think.
Heimdall is my favourite character, The Goat.
He felt like one of the old greek gods (mainly hermes) which is probably why.
Queen Mistletoe is a crazyyy nickname. 😂😂
Smoking that Heimdall pack
15:53 my guess is Heimdall's arm was nearby, which would have prompted easily the best taunt ever "need a hand?"
holding the hand out to the downed Heimdall
Hiemdall called Freya "Queen Mistletoe" coz she made a deal with nature to grant her son Baldur immunity over death.....all but the mistletoe which in the end, Loki used as arrows and tricked another to kill Baldur with it....same green arrowhead that pierced Baldur when he punched Atreus( loki) in GOW 2018.
To be fair Kratos gave Heimdall two chances to walk away from the fight but the Aesir are either too proud or stubborn to walk away from a fight. It’s like what the Norns said, “we are the sum of our choices” so his death being preordained is more on heimdalls stubbornness to blame for his death rather than kratos wanting to end the Aesir.
skål: cheers
Sköll: wolf that chases the sun
They are very close and understandably mistaken.
Kratos is over 1000 years old so yeah he's pretty wise.
Been watching for a long time, you guys are great❤️ And Heimdall Died because of his pride mainly and couldn't grasp he died to such a god.
It's his "nature", ironic how he can predict every movement of everyone but he himself is also predictable, well played Norns.
Another great interpreation by the creators of this game. Heimdall was one of the more powerful of the Aesir gods, but he had to be- he was the one responsible for guarding the bridge that connected Midgard to Asgard (called The Bifrost Bridge); but just how the writers of this game took Baldur's invulnerability and twisted into something opposite of the original myths (where Baldur was a god of light and beauty, know for his gentle nature), Heimdall's vigilance was turned into something . . . unpleasant. :)
Also, did you notice how Heimdall (really, any Aesir god who interacts with her) refers to Freya as "Frigg"? In the "traditional" myths, Freya and Frigg are 2 different goddesses. Frigg is Odin's wife (essentially, the Norse version of Hera), while Freya leads the Vanir gods along with Frey/ Freyr. Another inspired move by this game's writers to make them one goddess (albeit it a very CONFLICTED goddess).
“Monster” the last word Heimdall said.
It's just like the Norns said, they may have changed on some level, but as soon as the right circumstances happened, they just go back to how they were before, the character growth they made is only surface level, they did not change in the inside and it is just like the Norns says about Kratos: Kratos still kills gods, but now he is sad about it.
god, when put to that prespeectivve from FatBrett's video on Kratos, it just makes more sense
Throughout my entire gameplay of God of War 2018 and Ragnarök I noticed that all Kratos kills are far more tamed than what his kills used to be part form the fact that he's over a thousand years old, but the times you get to see that classic Kratos Brutality is when him, Atreus or Freya are fighting an Ogre, a Troll, or a Wolver, like here at 5:53 for example you see that classic gorey Kratos Brutality.
10:00-12:42 DING DING DING DING GAME TIME! Kratos vs Gulltoppr, Victor: Kratos
12:42- 15:00 Kratos vs Heimdall Round 1, Victor: Kratos
My thoughts: The first round is trying to hit heimdall and the spear exploding and creates an opening but is still weaving the attacks at 13:03, but when i finally got a hit on heimdall at 13:29 it was finally game-time. But he really pissed me off to a certain degree. The only reason i did not second try this fight this was because of Mimir at 14:23. "C'mon, brother. You hit him once-just gotta find the right opening!
Heimdall: You think you get to just walk away? No, that is not how this works. You are dead, sunshine!
16:30-18:18 Kratos vs Heimdall Round 2 Victor: Kratos
My Thoughts: The second phase of this fight took an interesting turn, guys like heimdall, who are so calm, cool to just being crazy after getting they ass whooped and being disrespected, was the last straw, plus there's some dialouge that cut out in this because when Heimdall said that i was like "Ok see that's where ya messd up you don't threaten a childs life in front of a parent." Heimdall: I am going to find that little mongrel of yours and beat his face into a pulp!
My reaction at 17:47. MINK, MINK, SIT DOWN! YEAH, YEAH! Mimir: This isn't who You want TO BE! Me: I'm sorry but he's not really giving me a choice right now. Mimir: I don't know if we're breaking fate or fate's breaking us. Me: It's a little bit of both mimir.
Another classic Kratos Brutality, 21:21
Here at 22:00 -23:13, and it was such a rush of excitement cause with was just being a damn tank at this point, and it was awesome. 24:52: Freyr: Relax. Me: Of course, the boat flies. Atreus: I... I knew it could do that. Me: Hmmph, no you didn't. And after i was done with this "MAIN QUEST" i immediately went after Birgir to see if he was dead or not i know that no one's surviving a fall like that but going after him open up more spots for Vanaheim.
Also Odin did hint earlier in the game to Atreus how heimdal can be defeated... Remeber when Odin said that "Heimdal is very perceptive but forgets to think sometimes"? Well here is the proof xD
Funny part of Heimdall fight, when he reaches for the horn and missed it, it wasnt supposed to and the actor got pissed and thats why he was so forceful on the second grab.
Been waiting for this one! Heimdalls death was satisfying
Heimdall : I am the herald of Ragnarok!
Kratos : Trust me. You're not that guy pal
Heimdall is just as annoying as hermes from god of war 3
you're thinking Skal not Skoll
Spelled variably as Skål, Skál, Skaal, Skoal, or Skol (depending on country and how it's transliterated in English), it's the ubiquitous Scandinavian “cheers” that no drink of aquavit would be complete without.
that's ripped straight off the Wikipedia
said the same just spelt different
Skoll is the wolf
Skal is the Cheer
I friggin love the background, guys. Looks awesome
I mean, Heimdall was gonna keep coming. You tried to let him go, and he took that as an insult. "You don't get to pity me, you don't decide my fate, I'm do this, imma do that." all that fly shit. And Atreus would never be safe, ever. And you know he wasn't just talking shit, you know he's gonna do it. Heimdall calling Kratos a monster while he was just talking about taking the kid's guts out and beating him to death. So, it's like "alright, then get fucked then." Heimdall gave me Homelander vibes and American Psycho vibes when he started to laugh out after he lost his arm. I just got to like villains like Heimdall that act like bullies, among other things
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I don't want to spoil anything but don't stress, that's all I'll say
It’s crazy how both of Odin’s sons brought on Ragnarok. Baldur brought the snow and killing Heimdal is causing Ragnarok
I'm sorry but that Viking, Birgir's sacrifice was completely unearned. He did not get enough character development for anyone to really give a damn about. Even Tasha was like, "Am I missing something?"🤣
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Odin mentioned that Heimdall forgets to think through the consequences of his actions, and here we see that it's his downfall. He demonstrably forgets to think, throughout the entire battle.
He doesn't think through the consequences of catching the spear. He just does, because he wants to mock Kratos... Then it explodes in his face.
He does learn this time, and doesn't catch it anymore. He just knocks it away with his sword. He doesn't think through the consequences, such as where the spear landed... and then it blows up at his feet.
He learns again, and now parries, then dodges out of the way of where it lands. He doesn't think through the consequences, like how those spears stay there... until he dodges right over one he parried earlier.
Every time, he gets angrier and angrier at Kratos, when in reality he's angry at himself for *not thinking.*
Forgot his name but the guy that jumped from the boat survived
what else could have been done i mean he kept taunting and threatening and provoking. such understanding is there for kratos. but when they tortured me relentlessly , until i broke and did the terrible things i never imagined i could do, how long and hard i loved through all the abuse, until i became the abuse. why cant any one understand that for me? i did what i did because i was cornered and traumatized and broken. no one sees that, no one ever sees that. broken mind, broken body, broken. love is the most important thing in life. no one understands this. may all our thoughts come from a space of love. im tired of being the only one to care this much. the pain that i carry is the love that i withhold. transform it all into love for everyone. thats what i do. but its not working. all i get is abuse and judgement , insult and disrespect, hate.
All i want is Kratos do a "Poseidon thing" to Heimdall so he won't be a watchman again
He lucky he didn’t do him like Hercules in god of war 3. Mimir really would have been traumatized
Another amazing reaction video. All make the game more fun for me. Keep it up much love tnt fam
Heimdall can see the truth in the eyes of people. He accurately called out Atreus when he first went to Asgard. He spent the entire fight angering Kratos. In his final moments he didn't see Kratos. He saw the Ghost of Sparta. The monster.
Also another interesting fact you might not know is that in Greek mythology there actually is a God know as Kratos and he is the God of and the Living personification of strength itself hence why kratos basically has infinite strength in his prime
the old Kratos was back when he killed Heimdall 🔥🔥
Feel like the main criticism with this scene is he's suppose to be losing control but we seen what losing control is in God of War 1-3. I mean this is a guy that beat his father so hard he was blinded by the amount of blood covering his face. They really should have went further with this.
Back drop is so Awesome
Oh no, Kratos killed Idris Elba
Kratos fights odin episode 100….
They are milking this too long for real.
I'm going to comment two viedo's you guys should check out related to GOW, one is the Kratos has had enough series, its is super funny. and the other will be the holding out for a hero song played to the escape that is going to happen in this ep.
Another great ride. But the story is barely revving up!!
When are y'all doing the next episode of God of War Ragnarok
Been waiting on disss!
I recommend you watch Heimdall, the imperfect tool character, explained to fully understand his character and role in the story rather than just being an Arsehole. Of course after you finish the game
No. Them Fullfilling the prophecy doesn't mean that what has been foretold will happen, as Kratos said. We chose to be better.
“He should’ve let Freya kill heimdall to prevent the prophecy” sorry to break it to you but Freya literally couldn’t beat heimdall. That’s why she kept nagging kratos to kill heimdall after hearing the prophecy because she thought heimdall couldn’t be beat so when she heard kratos was destined to kill him she kept begging to go through with it. There’s a reason heimdall is not afraid of anyone besides Odin and that was because Odin was the only god who knew how to get around his foresight ability.
background is so cool
Calling Kratos pale is crazy as if his skin color wasn't a curse and the literal ashes of his dead family 😭
He ashy.
If you haven't actually played this yet, being covered in Bifrost sucks
monster, i know what it feels like to be a monster. everyone loves kratos, yet he has slaughtered countless children animals and women and loving peaceful good hearted men. do you all understand this? people are so confusing. in my deeply traumatized and demented past, i did something cruel and monstrous, then when i realized what i did, i became terrified, at my self, in a panic i attempted to bring my victim back to life, i was successful. i fought to save the life i almost took. the abuse and trauma people have given me as i try so hard to be good and loving had twisted me into a psychotic monster. i was driven mad. people abused me and traumatized me like i deserved it, judged me like i was some kind of animal or monster, when all i care about is love, until they broke me, and i became the monster they wanted to see. people told me i am absolutely terrifying. i absolutely terrified my self too. why do people love kratos, he has done so much worse than my worst. why do people abuse me when all i ever did was love everyone so much. none of you have ever made any sense . i dont understand any of you. you love this monster, but i was a golden hearted angel of compassion care and love and respect, and all ive ever known is loss. all my abusers were nice friendly smiling normal seeming people like all of you. how can i trust. i feel like prey in a world of only predators. hurt people, hurt people. so loving everyone is the most important thing in my life. yet, everyone i have ever met or encountered is an abusive monster waiting to hurt me. and if keep loving you people in the face of your mistreatment, youll keep terrorizing me and mess with my head and heart until i break, and lash out giving you a real actual reason to feel justified abusing me like i deserve it. then i am punished and ruined for it. judged for it. it is truly maddening. i dont need to know any of you, to know theres something wrong with all of you, youre all dangerous toxic cruel abusive monsters wating to happen. all it takes is a little rub the wrong way, a little misunderstanding. you think theres something wrong with me of course, i know how i sound to all of you. its because none of you will ever face the realities i have. all the darkness traumatized into me, it doesnt belong here with me. look at what people have turned me into. people want this instead of the love and light i want for everyone. kratos, is loved, by all of us. youre all so confusing i dont understand you crazy people. ive been thinking, maybe to change my life and be loved, i have to change, stop being so loving and kind and respectful, stop wanting friends or family or love all together, is that the way to have it? being loving and sweet has never done anything but allow people to traumatize me. maybe the problem is that i want to be loved .
Fun fact : people associated heimdall to Hermes ( in mithology heimdall and Hermes aren't "evil" ) the reason Is because in gow 3 hermes Is an arrogant and conceited and he Always Say that he's the Faster in the universe,heimdall too he's arrogant, conceited, he's even fast too but not like Hermes,and he's violent, i mean yeah he's literally a norse version of Hermes ( i talking about the games not myth) and Kratos "robbed" his horn as he robbed Hermes boots
In God of War Ragnarok Kratos is 1,055 years old
Heimdall was not a kid he actually older than Kratos
Heimdall: age 200+
Kratos : age 100+
Awesome video.
One of the next games y'all should react to is Ghost of Tsushima! It's an amazing and beautiful game!
When (EP 21) God of War Ragnarok coming out
Tomorrow. I was too tired to edit it tonight.
@@TNTGamingonline I guess the unedited will be on Patron
If Freya had stayed to fight Heimdall instead of Kratos, she would've lost. Kratos was the only one prepared to fight him, and also, prophecy. Kratos was always gonna kill Heimdall, after all, the game IS called God of War: Ragnarok. And Kratos has never celebrated any death, not while we played as him, anyway.
And it's not that Heimdall had a misconception of his fate, he had a massive ego. He spent his lifetime believing that he was untouchable, only to suddenly get completely wrecked by some brute from a foreign land, and his ego couldn't handle that.
Also, Baldur didn't really "want to die", he just wanted to feel something, anything.
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He said herald not hero of ragnarok
Why dont you guys compare kratos' anger between kratos vs heimdal and kratos vs thor (first meet)
Not all heroes wear capes
Rip "birgir" 👉🍔 😂