Here's the list of products reviewed. More details in the video description. Thank you! Contigo: amzn.to/3n2A8SI HydroFlask Standard Mouth: amzn.to/3rQKuIM HydroFlask Sport: amzn.to/2X2pY9V Brita: amzn.to/3b3dBmn Aquatix: amzn.to/3pMpwJc Bubba Flo: amzn.to/3rQsHRY Under Armour: amzn.to/353A27e Yeti Rambler: amzn.to/3aYQhpT Hydrology: amzn.to/3pNjzvV Coleman: amzn.to/3pLGPui Klean Kanteen: amzn.to/2Mi5N5N ThermoFlask: amzn.to/3pNauD1 Stanley Classic: amzn.to/3pHec19 East Rim: amzn.to/2JK2mEg
Just don't park it down town anywhere and announce on a PA to evacuate because you are conducting a test LOL Especially near the phone company or in the bar district :D
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Love your work. One important call-out in this test is that the volume of liquid should be the same for a fair test. Larger volumes of water take more energy to heat or cool, so the larger volume bottles will lose their heat or cold over a longer period than smaller bottles even if they are designed the same.
it seems a more controlled test might be to fill the containers with just ice at the same temperature, e.g. -10 degrees F. then after the test time duration, see how much water is able to pour out from the container. That would equalize differences due to volume of the container, as the larger containers hold more ice, which then allow greater chilling to compensate for the larger volume. The greater the amount of water, the lower the performance of the container, so containers that do well will only show a small trickle of measurable water.
That's true if you're specifically comparing the thermal transfer of each thermos, but I think this was still a fair test for real-world usage. It's less empirical, but I think it's just as (if not more) useful to an average consumer.
While they are expensive, the Stanley warranty is top notch. I had a vacuum insulated bottle with push button lid. At some point the lid went missing. I emailed them hoping to buy a new lid, turned out that bottle was discontinued a few years prior and they didn't stock the lids.. But two weeks later a new lid showed up in the mail, no charge, no shipping.
We deal a lot with cryogenic materials and the Stanley vacuum flasks insulate much better than the competitors if you don't have a true Dewar on hand. Obviously this is much different than the use cases of the typical consumer, but it matches up pretty well here with the very good cold performance of the Stanley relative to the other brands
@@MBTK11 Yet here there are leading on 5G tech to the point we make up some BS storylines to slow down their reach. You are a victim of very deliberate propaganda.
@@MrSGL21 they should as long as there is not puncture. If the walls touch because of the dent, it will definitely be worse insulating though. But generally dents won’t really change the performance.
Todd, I find it amazing that you read and respond to comments on ALL your videos, even old ones like this. Thank you for your dedication to helping the common man. Honesty can be hard to find these days, but people like you are a reminder there is hope.
Sorry for my language, but bro... you're an absolute fucken champ dude. Your videos are a valuable resource for consumers, and unlike other consumer reports-esque sources, we know you're totally unbiased. Your scientific process is pristine, your test are always super relevant and well designed. Your editing is on point, and you have such a nice cadence and voice for this type of stuff. Even down to the iconic super nice pen you use during close-ups. Top 10 RUclipsr bar none! Legit just wanna give you a firm handshake
@@OmegaGamingNetwork Maybe their tents aren't good anymore, but my wife bought a coleman tent around 15 years ago (maybe more?) and we finally had to retire it last year.
@@dereklacy Yea, sorry should have mentioned I am referring to modern stuff. The only other thing I don't buy coleman these days are the propane lanterns but that isn't due to quality. I simply prefer the old style simplicity and don't think the new ones justify being twice the price of everything else. Beyond that, I have a bunch of coleman gear.
I simply love your work, dude. I've never seen such a rigorous tester on RUclips. You save me hundreds of dollars and many hours of research, trial and error. Thank you very much!
I'm sure the cult of Yeti will be in to tell us how PF screwed up the testing. Overpriced and overhyped, but how else can you put that sticker on your car so people know you like to pay more for mediocre equipment.
I can tell you from personal experience that a really good floor jack is a joy to use compared to a cheap one, plus the good ones start out lower and go higher, so you get the best of both. Have a look at AC Hydraulics. I gave a king's ransom for mine, but it was money well spent.
Please do an updated version of this. I think that there have a lot of new brands that have bottles that would fit this category. I think brands like S'well, Rtic, and Ello would be good brands to test in this category. I think that Stanley has gotten a lot of attention recently and could use more testing.
Unfortunately, Stanley discontinued their insulated water bottles since people keep buying their tumblers instead. Their new water bottle doesn't seem as strong so I switched to the Camelbak Chute insulated version after losing the Stanley on a golf course. Both are 32 ounces, but the Camelbak acutally fits my cupholder and seems to be a decent replacement so far.
@@ProjectFarm Another commenter mentioned Zojirushi. I would second this. They have the best hot temperature performance with respect to volume, in my opinion.
Matt at DemoRanch tested the Stanley's bullet resistance claim. "Speeding bullet" must mean someone took a round, wound up, and gave it their best fastball pitch, because it sure doesn't stand up to getting shot at.
I've shown so many friends their "sippy cup" style bottles often have black mold in the seals because they can hide moisture. Clean well, clean carefully.
Look at the new Thermoflask lids, now with a small tab on the clear outing or sealer ring so it can be removed and cleaned or replaced with ease. Still not made in the USA.
Its why machine washable bottles should be the way to go most people are too lazy to clean the gaskets throughly. (Bad gasket design can also trap water behind the seal even from cleaning so you have to clean and dry which is very annoying)
I have a couple from Sam's Club, not sure of the brand, but they are impossible to clean under the gasket. You can pull it out, but there is a seam in the plastic under the seal, and it builds up in there. It's gross, and defeats the purpose of having reusable bottles.
This is exactly why I use glass cups if at all possible. Screw on caps and valves are hard to clean properly. When I worked on designing sanitary food processing equipment, a lot of effort was put into making wetted areas smooth (no entrapment area) and polished. Companies could do a lot better on this if they followed 3A standards when designing their water bottles and thermoses.
What an awesome extensive testing on these thermos. Personally I have owned and used Hydrolask for over a decade and the only reason I replaced them is because I drop them. Eventually that cracks the insulation effect and they no longer hold hot or cold anymore, they become just another bottle. It was awesome to see the inner layers when you cut them up. This is great because maybe I’ll consider a different brand based on durability on my next bottle purchase. You’re awesome, love this channel. Keep doing what you’re doing. Thanks for all of your extensive and thorough testing/research.
Great video and comparison. My only complaint would be the exclusion of RTIC. RTIC is the literal same thing as Yeti, in fact they got sued over that exact issue. A lead engineer for Yeti left the company because he didn't like how much they charged for their products, and thus started RTIC. Great quality items at half the cost of Yeti, which is the premise of the video. Would have loved to have seen that comparison, as the price of RTIC makes it a better deal than any of the budget options.
@@hereticnasom - I would like to see other ozark trail products in a few tests as well. they're generally the same as other "store brand" camping gear products, so it would cover a fairly wide category.
Expressly because of this video, I bought a Coleman 40oz bottle. It's the best water bottle I've ever owned. Unlike others that have the fold out straw thing going on, the Coleman lid is perfectly leak-proof, flows easily and is easily cleanable. The rubberized bottom with a plain steel "bumper" is also excellent. It doesn't slip or damage surfaces you place it on. If you're carrying it, it's usually the bottom edge that slams into things, so the extra protection is great. I've had it for almost a year, and it's held up like no other. Thanks for the video, sir.
Same here, I bought the 40oz version Coleman bottle and I am enjoying it, it is the best bottle overall and really sturdy, dropped it a couple times and it dented a little on the bottom.
I have had the 40 oz version for 5 years. I use it almost every day and it only has a few scuffs and dents. The only real wear is on the rubber button from many a finger press. I would be genuinely sad if I lost this water bottle lol. Great purcahse.
I've had multiple brands of water bottles/ thermos and the thing I've noticed is there's a big difference in durability of the lids. I only use Yeti and hydro flask now. They hold up really well. Very impressive
I'm compelled to express my admiration for you. Your sense of selflessness and abundance of sense, consistently over the years goes noticed by all. Thank you.
I've been using the 24 oz Coleman for 3 years now and I love it. The cover for the mouthpiece, wide opening for filling, cold retention, and shape and size of the bottle for placing it almost anywhere makes it unbeatable for the situations I need it in. I have damaged a few of them just by dropping them but I like my stuff to be completely scratch free and dent free even if still usable. I would still rather buy replacements than go with a different bottle.
The coleman was consistently one of the best in every category, while the others seemed better at one thing or another. Plus the amazing design of the cap, which this video doesn't really detail. Imo it's a clear winner
I use water hoses for my business every day. Constantly reeling, unreeling, dragging, etc. I've tried many, many brands. The best I've found is the Flexzilla hose with the updated style of connector with the gray swivels. They're light, UV and chemical resistant, durable, very hard to kink and the bright neon color really stands out so less chance of someone tripping over them or running them over with a lawn mower. You can get them in the standard lengths and in standard 5/8" or the larger 3/4". I'm no Project Farm but I've spent a lot of money on hoses and Flexzilla is by far the best.
y'know, Project Farm is the only youtube channel that can make testing water bottles interesting. love your content, sir. good job. may you be with us for many more years.
I'd be curious to see how well the bottles performed after the side-drop test. I suspect a big dent on one of these would seriously impact their insulation ability, as it would cause part of the outer shell to come into contact with the inner shell, which would probably create a spot where temperature could change much easier.
Yes it does affect the insulation. At least from my personal experience using hydroflask, when I’ve dropped mine and cause a large dent, the bottle’s insulation integrity is over. You’ll feel the hot or cold transferring from the damage area. The bottle just becomes another bottle container and no longer able to hold it’s contents temperature as designed to do so. Again, this is from personal experience on Hydroflask, not sure about the other brands.
Thank you for your amazingly thorough and intelligent testing. You are my go to source when I want to get objective, credible, transparent analysis. Although you don’t test every product, no one does or possibly can. You are clearly one of the most useful and the most valuable site on the net and you work hard for it. Again, thank you!!
For this time of year, maybe test storage totes for all of the people "organizing" for the new year. Which ones gets brittle at cold temperatures, resistance to DEET spray, etc. I foresee a test rig with a log on a chain slamming into a loaded tote to test resilience.
I love the legit testing and unbiased reports of products on this channel , That dropping on the lids must have been fun and that final test of the legendary Farmabago was hilarious , Thank you for such a great channel your work is much appreciated .
Thats because the american workers want to much if they were made in USA they would cost way over $50 to purchase so dont complain and take what you get......
It’s a several years late for me, but I appreciate the data. I’ve purchased a variety of water bottles over the years and have finally settled on hydro flask containers. In the past 4 years I’m currently on my second one because as you’ve stated they’re not that durable. They can take a few hits and still function _(although the chipped finish and dents bother me)_ but once you’ve damaged the vacuum seal and it no longer keeps the contents cold/hot it’s time to replace it. Overall I’m happy with their performance to cost!
@@whodahellru8124 I had similar findings. With that being said, check out Ecovessel. Similar stylings and better thermal performance. Are they more durable? who knows... but they can be acquired for half the cost w/constant promos. I have a 20, 32, and 64oz version. A family of hydration. The only thing I've found to outperform them is the 25oz Swell bottle, but that's both expensive and not very durable.
Same here, i would love to see if there is a cooler out there that can keep my food at a safe temperature for 24hrs+ with one or two bags put in at the start of the day. i drive truck and have a mini fridge and i haven't had a fridge yet that could decide if my food needed to be frozen or too warm.
@@shettaal I use those LIFETIME coolers from walmart, but Orion coolers are even better. then there are some aerospace tech companies that sell storage containers for chemical shipping, which are double wall vacuum insulated just like a thermos but they cost even more than Orion coolers, whilst having much more space on the inside compared to the Orion coolers.
I’d like to see the high end hard coolers tested. Yeti, Rtic, Orca, Cabelas, Pelican and so on. Maybe the 20/30oz tumbler mugs? Everyone talks Yeti up, so to see them compared again would be nice.
There is no point in testing hard coolers. Coolers on sale has done a lot of testing on them. They did a lot of test over the last few years and you can see that Yeti, titc, orca and other brands are not worth the money. I bought one of the lifetime coolers from Walmart and its among one of the best low budget coolers and is far better than the yeti. ruclips.net/user/CoolersOnSalevideos
I am a hunter and i carry an Hydroflask in my backpack in fall for whitetails and i am not surprised how good they performed with your tests! I am so happy Hydroflask rules! Surprised about Yeti’s loss of heat!...
It would have been interesting to see how the volume of liquid factored into those times. It would seem to make sense that a larger volume of hot or cold water would be an advantage, but that advantage would not be due to the insulation. Additional just a side note the drop on the lid test demonstrates the power of hydraulic shock, other such examples is bowing the bottom off a glass bottle.
Yes absolutely. There’s huge difference in volume between these bottles. A larger volume has an advantage of much better volume to surface area ratio, but also with a larger volume of liquid, it would warm up a lot slower. A better test would have been to have the exactly same volume of water in each bottle.
An interesting point, but at the same time, shouldn't you test them how they will be used? Their size is part of the design. You aren't going to be half filling them in daily use for some sense of "fairness." Also, I don't think it's going to make the difference you think it is. Say the largest one ends up only half full, now the only path of heat ingress/egress is the travel all the way between the lid and the liquid along the thin aluminum wall, or convection through the air in the bottle. Both are gonna be pretty inefficient at heat transfer.
@@RustySh4ckleford I can attest to the bigger hydroflasks. I have a 32 oz and my husband has a 40 oz and we are constantly dropping them. If stored upright mine will keep ice if left in my car all day in the summer.
OMG! I love the Farmabago. Absolutely hilarious. I'm surprised that the Yeti didn't perform well. I have a Yeti 32oz cup and if put something hot in there is still ridiculously hot even half a day later. Great video.
I think if “Zojirushi brand” were included in the test, it would have easily taken the title on temperature retention. Zojirushi makes excellent insulated bottle.
I bought a Walmart one last summer. The problem with them is they don't work for long. When I first got mine it held ice overnight. It can no longer do that. Once the rubber seals get even tiny, tiny stains on them, they no longer seal as tight and wont keep temperatures anywhere near as long.
@@henri6595 I have a bottle like this made by RTIC. There is obvious heat/cold loss at the mouth of the bottle. You can feel it with your fingers. As you know the double wall insulation has to come together somewhere and that place is the mouth on the RTIC. Where the joining is, the temperature is transferred from the inside to the outside. I have never tested its temperature retention capabilities. I can say the that it is not all that good. There is a noticeable change whether it starts at hot or cold in just an hours time.
Great video! I love how thorough and objective this experiment was. One small detail in the video that should be corrected is when you refer to the bottle's layered construction as "air gaps". They're actually vacuum gaps, which actively prevents heat transfer through a lack of convection. If they were actually "air gaps", they would heat up within minutes instead of hours.
I was going for another temp test after doing them. If the dent makes the outer skin touch the inner skin, you'll get heat transfer, and a little debt can make a big difference in temp performance. Great video though!
@@WapTek123 Either way, whether a vacuum or an air gap, if the outside skin is touching the inner container, it's going to cause issues with heat transfer.
Hey boss! I've got a suggestion. So, bit of a back story. I'm a construction worker (kind of jack of all trades), actually my family members are as well and we constantly struggle to find quality paint brushes. I searched your channel, but wasn't able to find anything relate (someone please correct me if I'm wrong). I'd like to see which brushes have the sharpest lines, are easiest to clean, keep there shape the longest, and are more recoverable after accidentally being left in the paint for to long (it happens to the best of us, haha 😄).
Wooster and Purdy make a good brush. The method you choose to clean them and how they are used will determine how long they will last. Specifically, I like the Wooster alpha 2.5 angle and purdy XL dale 2.5 angle. Never use a wire brush to clean, it will fray the bristle ends. Store them hanging in the original packaging to keep their shape.
Recommendation for video: Was watching Rose Anvil channel as he did his best to test an "indestructible" safety shoe. At the end he mentioned he would like to do a Project Farm style test on Safety shoes. I propose a safety shoe/boot test collaboration with Weston from Rose Anvil! Would be awesome as he knows quite abit about footwear and you are able to do amazing testing. Also safety footwear certainly applies to this channel. Cheers!
Mr. Project Farm, There is no doubt that you put in a whole lot of time doing the research format you made for research and yourself. There is nobody that dedicates your show to depict, accurate results. Very informative and we love you!
Wow! You are very thorough. I just happen to have the Coleman. Had it for about a year now and love the push button seal spout. Haven't shot it, dropped it, run it down with my van yet, so I have no durability comparison to boast. But it does keep liquids cold and hot. The push button drink allows access without opening anything to allow warm or cold in. That's why I got it. Mine was almost 20 bucks including tax, so wasn't the cheapest. But sure wasn't the 40 dollar brand, Stanley? Still made in China one,either. Thanks for going to the work u do to check stuff out. You the man,👍. Take care.
I own a Stanley thermos for a few years now and can say that its really good at insolating. I once left it out in the sun during a camping trip for like 30 min. Real hot day. Couldn't comfortibly touch the thing anymore yet when I the water out it was still ice cold. Also handled me dropping it a few times pretty well. Haven't tried much other flasks so I can't say if its anything special though.
I usually buy Thermos brand. I like their large mouth for food. Super for chili and stew and soups. I guess once you buy a brand and it works, ya stick with it. Take care.
@@peterford9369 Yes, Peter...Exactly my brand of choice after many years of comparison/contrast use... Thermos. The lids/caps on Thermos are better and more durable too. I do pre-heat for coffee/tea..and it has never been beat by any other i've tried.
I live in Houston and Rtic is manufactured and distributed just outside of Houston off hwy 290. I can tell you that about 3-4 years go, Buc-Ee’s stopped distributing Rtic. Is a shock to me that @DylanVansant stated Rtic can be bought from Walmart. I am shocked that Rtic didn’t make the list over Yeti. My personal experience is Rtic held way more ice in my 45 quart cooler over Yeti, on the same summer day, while fishing Galveston Bay, and opening and closing the Rtic all day for drinks, versus only using the Yeti for a backup. I knew that day Rtic was a far better brand than overpriced Yeti brand.
Yeah I prefer these bottles with their screw-on caps. Spill-proof. Also good are screw-on caps with a drink mechanism you can flip up and down easily. Anything that foils my dog's attemps to knock over my drink containers in my car. 😄 I love your exhaustive tests! 👍
@@Evan-qk3ml Yeah the lid looks completely different. If you Google LTT water bottle OEM the first result is the LTT forum, shows one branded kaxani that is exactly the same. But not sure if they're OEM. Linus is in the comments and he says there's an OEM but he doesn't confirm who.
I'd like to recommend testing a Zojirushi thermos; I got an older model from a thrift store and find that it's still hot 24+ hours later. Not sure if the new ones are still as good, my model is skdb-10 1.0L and originally had a plaid fabric as a decorative lining on the outside, which I removed and found it's stainless steel underneath. In my experience, in the morning I put boiling water in and use it through the day to dispense 2-to-3oz of hot water at a time to mix with room temp water for baby formula. I and use the leftover the following morning for black tea to empty it out and rinse it before putting fresh boiled water.
2nd! I have one and love it. It's beat to hell but I use it as a hammer sometimes and frequently drop it on concrete so there's that. Actually gave them out to my wedding party as gifts. Also made in Thailand instead of china.
Zojirushi stuff is top notch. Their stuff is lightweight, too. I wouldn't be surprised if they used deep-drawing and flow forming on the inner shell to get it as thin as possible. They probably make the steel at the neck thinner to limit heat loss to the outside as well. The biggest two regions for heat loss in a vacuum thermos are the cap and the neck. I would love to see a zojirushi cut open.
I own a Zojirushi thermos made in Thailand. I must say that it keeps liquids hot for many hours (never tried cold but assume same results). For a small affordable thermos it's pretty amazing.
I was going to say the same - the zojirushi brand thermoses are pretty good. I have some yetis (and off brands) as well, but the zojirushis are so much better.
After seeing this vid a few months ago, I put the Coleman in my Amazon wishlist. Someone then got it for me for Xmas. I've been using it constantly for both hot and cold beverages since. And I love it.
Here I was looking for what screwdriver to purchase when I found this channel, a week later I have seen an absurd amount of videos about products I dont really need but I still enjoy knowing how to determine better quality products overall. I do want to buy a Coleman bottle now 🤣 Keep up the great work!
I ended up with 7 Yeti thermoses during a job. I've noticed the heat loss mostly coming from the lid area. It's especially noticeable when using near boiling liquids in the larger thermoses. As observed from my testing, covering the lid and a few inches down the body is enough to maintain scalding temperatures over night. The thermoses that more focus on absolute insulation have a double lid probably to insulate the area around the lid better.
@@areoladan5580 Good to know. I have one of these (gift from my MiL who saw me admiring hers last trip I took to her place) that I like but have been surprised to see my son's cheaper Coleman seems to actually outperform it in terms of keeping ice frozen over longer periods. But I'll try your suggestion to see if it helps. It's also good to see that the Yeti is more durable than most, I'm clumsy and tall so I need the extra help in that area and love taking my water bottles everywhere. I've had the HydroFlasks in the past as well but after seeing this I'll probably just go w/ Coleman from now on.
@@jmckey yeah the yeti bottles are tanks. I’ve only got a couple small dents in one that I use on the daily for the past three years, both when it was dropped from chest height on concrete floors when it was full. I stopped using hydroflasks because the lids can’t be cleaned well but I may switch to the Colemans as long as they are easily cleanable
@@jmckey other thing to consider is, taste transfer and ease of cleaning. I am always on road in rural canada. Not all gas stations have designated washing area/sink. So something that can be easily cleaned is a big plus. Then you have taste transfer problem, some brands impart metallic taste to hot coffee (coffee is acidic). My contigo had this problem, hydro flask has been best so far (no taste transfer at all).
OMG, THANK YOU! You even dropped on the lids! This was fabulous!! I'd really like something that holds at least a quarter or a liter and can keep it cold. Renal failure is no joke and simple dehydration can cause it and many other things too. Dehydration begins, in your body, 2 hours after your last drink (8oz glass of water or there about) according to my urologist. You don't notice it at all until you are nearly doing damage. If your kidneys are healthy, they will likely bounce back with no repercussions (our bodies are amazing) but never let it go that far.
YOU ARE RIDICULOUS Dehydration is a 24/7 ongoing process that never stops. You do NOT need to to drink 8 glasses of water a day, you will NOT start causing kidney damage after 2 hours. Stop the "i must be guzzling water non stop every day panic. Do you know when you should drink something? . . . WHEN YOU ARE THIRSTY. The human body IS amazing and it certainly doesn't need the level of micro-managing quadruple-filtered water drinking that so many think are gospel. This mania about guzzling water has been primarily caused by 2 things: The increase in preserved(salted) convenience foods over the last 25 years, and the amount of bottled water companies trying to fear people out of drinking tap water (including travel bottles). for the record, the hydroflasks seem the easiest for my family to use & not destroy.
@@HangTimeDeluxe You're an engineer, right? Which one is actually the best? It seems the vacuumed space is a requirement. I saw another one that used a copper sheath that did well. What all would you stack up to make the very best one, if money was no object?
Extremely thorough testing as always! You need some fuel squirting into the exhaust cones of the Farmabago so we can see huge flames as you're moving along. LOL Great video!
@@ProjectFarm Thanks for another great analysis. However, I was surprised - ALL of the flasks were made in China? Are there none from the US available? That's not a complaint, it's a point of curiosity, because for all I know, China may have the market cornered.
I own the hydro cell. Filled it up with ice and water. Forgot it in my truck in 95 degree weather. All day all night and still had ice the next day. Best I ever seen
I would really have liked to see the Zojirushi stainless steel mugs. I've bought them for the entire extended family since they have a fantastic lid design. Easy one handed operation, easy to clean and to my mind holds things cool or hot for a very long time
@@grahamdonaldson29 That has been my experience. While purely anecdotal, I live in AZ, and my Zojirushi bottles performs better at keeping liquids cold than the other brands I've used.
I've used Kleen Kanteen for several years and love them. I have 3 different sizes and they all perform wonderfully. Recently however, I started using the Yeti because of the lid/cap design and love it. It's sad to see it isn't as efficient as the other brands but i drink multiple refills and never notice much of a difference either way. If i ever lose all of my bottles, I'm probably going to switch it up for one of the hydrology bottles. It performed great for it's price. 👍🏼
got 2 klean kanteen. 1 wide mouth started leaking after just a month of use. the other narrow mouth is still holding on like a champ even after 3 years
I have 3 Klean Kanteens - all single wall / un-insulated. I use them for hiking. For me they are a nice balance between price, weight, capacity, and durability. I've put in a lot of miles with them with no issues, just a few scuff marks.
Just curious wouldn’t the bottles closest to the freezer cooling vent get cold faster due to proximity to the cooling source? Probably would have been better to just leave them out for 12 hours great video as usual though
Good point. Something else is that some bottles were larger than others, and I imagine that the bottles containing more liquid were able to retain their temperature better
PF: Hello, I'd like to return this flask I bought, I have the receipt. Seller: Good grief, these look like they have been dropped on an angle iron, dropped on their cap, run over and then cut in half. PF: No, they were like that when I got them out of the packaging.
Here's the list of products reviewed. More details in the video description. Thank you!
Contigo: amzn.to/3n2A8SI
HydroFlask Standard Mouth: amzn.to/3rQKuIM
HydroFlask Sport: amzn.to/2X2pY9V
Brita: amzn.to/3b3dBmn
Aquatix: amzn.to/3pMpwJc
Bubba Flo: amzn.to/3rQsHRY
Under Armour: amzn.to/353A27e
Yeti Rambler: amzn.to/3aYQhpT
Hydrology: amzn.to/3pNjzvV
Coleman: amzn.to/3pLGPui
Klean Kanteen: amzn.to/2Mi5N5N
ThermoFlask: amzn.to/3pNauD1
Stanley Classic: amzn.to/3pHec19
East Rim: amzn.to/2JK2mEg
The "Farmerbago" is such a refined and delicate scientific instrument, I just love watching it at work!
I'm sure it is calibrated externally once a year.
@@pmarquisYT we're going to test that.
@@nmatthew7469 lol
Just don't park it down town anywhere and announce on a PA to evacuate because you are conducting a test LOL
Especially near the phone company or in the bar district :D
@@KlodFather Too Soon. Dude, Too Soon.
“Stanley bottles have survived category 5 hurricanes”
I expected Project Farm to say “we’re going to test that”.
Demolition Ranch did
@@ColdRiverAutowire No, he did not.
I expected some target shooting myself.
@@Zark-Muckerberg yes....he did
@@bilbobaggins4710 Not the hurricane. He tested the speeding bullet.
I love how this channel tests more rigorously and thoroughly than any consumer report type show. And I feel confident that nothing is biasing results.
Thanks!
Not to mention that he obviously takes the time to read through comments even with 1.8mil subscribers.
Why no Zojirushi?
This channel is a big W. Gives u the truth, no biases. Highly suggest notifications on cuz it’s goated channel
Subbed like 2 years ago (I think)… 0 regrets
Whenever I have a purchase in mind, I think "Project Farm?" Love your work, Todd. Thanks.
Thanks and you are welcome!
Did the same thing here, and his videos will be forever relevant as long as the products are sold
Same here always check PF before a purchase.
Not a single second of waste, talk starts exactly at 0:00 and it ends exactly at the end! Straight to the point! Great job! All the best from Croatia!
It's all made to last longer. So we are force fed, ads, that YOU TUBE PAYS HIM BIG MONEY FOR💰💰💰💰💰
@@captainamericaamerica8090 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Gotta pay the bills, right?
@@captainamericaamerica8090 he wouldn’t be able to bring us the great content he does without revenue to afford all the different test products
Nailed it. I use the skip forward on nearly every RUclips video I watch. Never touched it once here but I did use the reverse a few times
@@mediumugly4322 He didn't start like this. They all get GREEDY. THEY CATCH ON QUICK. THE MONEY THEY TAKE IN IS MASSIVE💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰THIS IS WHY HE NOW MILKS THE COW, FOR ALL SHE'S WORTH. AND AT OUR EXPENSE. FORCE FED ADS NON STOP😧😧😧😧
This man got us covered, anything and everything.
Best RUclips reviews on the web ever
Not the hero we needed, the hero we deserved
Thanks!
@@bikerrider4845 i doubt they'd survive the drop test...
@@zemouregalhd3331 Fucking rofl.
At this point he’s just making up reasons to bring out the farmabago and it’s amazing
Thanks!
Right lol. Like there’s any point in running them over 😂😂
If one has a farmabago, one must use a farmabago. It’s simply a fact of life.
I like seeing thing get destroyed
The manufacturers are unable to claim “farmabago tough”
Love your work. One important call-out in this test is that the volume of liquid should be the same for a fair test. Larger volumes of water take more energy to heat or cool, so the larger volume bottles will lose their heat or cold over a longer period than smaller bottles even if they are designed the same.
it seems a more controlled test might be to fill the containers with just ice at the same temperature, e.g. -10 degrees F.
then after the test time duration, see how much water is able to pour out from the container.
That would equalize differences due to volume of the container, as the larger containers hold more ice, which then allow greater chilling to compensate for the larger volume.
The greater the amount of water, the lower the performance of the container, so containers that do well will only show a small trickle of measurable water.
volume to surface ratio !! is the only important
That's true if you're specifically comparing the thermal transfer of each thermos, but I think this was still a fair test for real-world usage. It's less empirical, but I think it's just as (if not more) useful to an average consumer.
There is no downside to having more coffee.
I WAS THINKINH OF THE SAME THING!
GOOD CATCH ON THAT ONE!❤
While they are expensive, the Stanley warranty is top notch. I had a vacuum insulated bottle with push button lid. At some point the lid went missing. I emailed them hoping to buy a new lid, turned out that bottle was discontinued a few years prior and they didn't stock the lids.. But two weeks later a new lid showed up in the mail, no charge, no shipping.
Thanks for sharing!
We deal a lot with cryogenic materials and the Stanley vacuum flasks insulate much better than the competitors if you don't have a true Dewar on hand. Obviously this is much different than the use cases of the typical consumer, but it matches up pretty well here with the very good cold performance of the Stanley relative to the other brands
If they didn't stock the lids I wonder how they sent one? A fast run of lids?
"Responsibly made in china" is the funniest thing i heard in 2022
@@MBTK11 Yet here there are leading on 5G tech to the point we make up some BS storylines to slow down their reach. You are a victim of very deliberate propaganda.
This is one of the only legit testing channels on youtube.. he deserves the success he has. ✊🏼
Thanks for watching.
That gets my sub.
I watch his videos all
The time. He’s hands down the best.
Whenever I plan on buying something, I always check to see if PF has already reviewed/compared it, then I buy that.
Dont Forget AVE does tear downs of tools with real mechanical and electronics experience. The dude can smell a bad tool from a foot ball field away.
"I don't think I've ever seen a Hydroflask that didn't have a dent in it." As an owner of 2 Hydroflasks (both dented), that one hurts.
I have an Ecovessel that's dented, allbeit my laptop fell onto the side of it and from about 5ish feet up too
do they retain their vacuum and still insulate despite the dent?
@@MrSGL21 they should as long as there is not puncture. If the walls touch because of the dent, it will definitely be worse insulating though. But generally dents won’t really change the performance.
i have 4 with no dents, used regularly.
I just looked at mine and saw I had one too😂
Todd, I find it amazing that you read and respond to comments on ALL your videos, even old ones like this.
Thank you for your dedication to helping the common man. Honesty can be hard to find these days, but people like you are a reminder there is hope.
Thanks and you are welcome!
Sorry for my language, but bro... you're an absolute fucken champ dude. Your videos are a valuable resource for consumers, and unlike other consumer reports-esque sources, we know you're totally unbiased. Your scientific process is pristine, your test are always super relevant and well designed. Your editing is on point, and you have such a nice cadence and voice for this type of stuff. Even down to the iconic super nice pen you use during close-ups. Top 10 RUclipsr bar none! Legit just wanna give you a firm handshake
Wow, thanks!
Agreed!
Agreed
Anyone who takes the time to do what you do sir.and do it well deserves his props.
I like how you expose the company’s claims . keep it up man
Coleman is like the “Kirkland Signature” of outdoor gear.
It’s not flashy or “hip”, but it provides consistent quality at a good value.
Thanks for the feedback.
Except their tents...those are just straight up garbage.
@@OmegaGamingNetwork
Sadly, forced to agree.
@@OmegaGamingNetwork Maybe their tents aren't good anymore, but my wife bought a coleman tent around 15 years ago (maybe more?) and we finally had to retire it last year.
@@dereklacy Yea, sorry should have mentioned I am referring to modern stuff. The only other thing I don't buy coleman these days are the propane lanterns but that isn't due to quality. I simply prefer the old style simplicity and don't think the new ones justify being twice the price of everything else. Beyond that, I have a bunch of coleman gear.
I’m not even shopping around for a water bottle…..watched the whole episode….subscribed.
Thanks for watching and subscribing!
This channel was made for binge watchers! 💪🤩🥳
I simply love your work, dude. I've never seen such a rigorous tester on RUclips. You save me hundreds of dollars and many hours of research, trial and error. Thank you very much!
You are welcome!
Love the little chuckle every time the yeti didn’t live up to the hype.
overpriced CCP made products. Profits for mansions in Austin, TX
I was thinking the same thing. Just paying for the name just like most things.
Its not even the orginal yeti. Its the rambler. The original is way better
@@pablopicaro7649 People keep falling for it, though! ಠಿ_ಠ
I'm sure the cult of Yeti will be in to tell us how PF screwed up the testing. Overpriced and overhyped, but how else can you put that sticker on your car so people know you like to pay more for mediocre equipment.
Your testing just keeps getting “cooler”, just can’t “contain” my appreciation for your approach to the “hot” topic.
Thank you!
Please no more.....pleas
I’ve made my choice on a number of products based on this channel
Great service !
Thank you very much!
Same here
Same. Thank you!
Instant sub. How have I not heard of this guy? If his other videos are as thorough as this, he's an insanely good source of info in general
Thanks for watching and subscribing!
“I don’t think I’ve ever seen a hydro flask without a dent in it” facts
Bing bonG
Dented mine right under the bell at the top from a small drop.
Dropped mine before I ever took a drink from it.
Thanks for sharing.
Spray the outside with rattle can bed liner.
Can you test cheap and expensive hydraulic car jacks. I need one and i don't know if a cheaper one would work.
Great test idea! Thank you
I can tell you from personal experience that a really good floor jack is a joy to use compared to a cheap one, plus the good ones start out lower and go higher, so you get the best of both. Have a look at AC Hydraulics. I gave a king's ransom for mine, but it was money well spent.
Yes this! I've been looking for one for a few months now but don't know if a 60 dollar craftsman will perform as good as a multi hundred dollar ones.
Not a single thing wrong with the daytona 3 ton low profile jack from harbor freight. You missed out on the $100 coupon but just keep your eye out.
I would be most interested to find out how far past the weight rating each jack would fail at!
Project farm's wife: I just made the best batch of spaghetti ever!
Project Farm: We're gonna test that.
Lol, Thank you!
....And end up with no wife.
Lmao
And then a string of: Best budget motel... Best cup of instant noodles... 😮
Hahahahaha
Please do an updated version of this. I think that there have a lot of new brands that have bottles that would fit this category. I think brands like S'well, Rtic, and Ello would be good brands to test in this category. I think that Stanley has gotten a lot of attention recently and could use more testing.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Zojirushi. They are the best.
@@ProjectFarm don't forget the LTT water bottle lol
Unfortunately, Stanley discontinued their insulated water bottles since people keep buying their tumblers instead. Their new water bottle doesn't seem as strong so I switched to the Camelbak Chute insulated version after losing the Stanley on a golf course. Both are 32 ounces, but the Camelbak acutally fits my cupholder and seems to be a decent replacement so far.
@@ProjectFarm Another commenter mentioned Zojirushi. I would second this. They have the best hot temperature performance with respect to volume, in my opinion.
Matt at DemoRanch tested the Stanley's bullet resistance claim. "Speeding bullet" must mean someone took a round, wound up, and gave it their best fastball pitch, because it sure doesn't stand up to getting shot at.
Link to the DemolitionRanch video ruclips.net/video/1gYqddO3Nbs/видео.html
We decided the test wasnt fair, as a full thermos would stop a .22, and his were empty.
@@randomfreedomlovingguy1536 you sure it would?
@@southaussiegarbo2054 A .22lr out of a handgun vs 2 layers of sheet metal, water, 2 more layers. I would think it would.
@@randomfreedomlovingguy1536 going off the damage done empty id say full will reduce it but they will still put a hole in it.
I like how the "speeding bullet" picture showed a bullet flying with the casing and all.
Demolition Ranch tested this. It didn't stop a bullet lol
@@Superbdrivemate that's how you know they mean business
Thanks for the feedback.
im betting by speeding bullet they mean they threw one at it lol
Here at Aperture Science, we fire the whole bullet that's 65% more bullet per bullet.
I've shown so many friends their "sippy cup" style bottles often have black mold in the seals because they can hide moisture. Clean well, clean carefully.
Yeah, it's disgusting. I take the o ring/ gasket out every time I clean it.
Look at the new Thermoflask lids, now with a small tab on the clear outing or sealer ring so it can be removed and cleaned or replaced with ease. Still not made in the USA.
Its why machine washable bottles should be the way to go most people are too lazy to clean the gaskets throughly. (Bad gasket design can also trap water behind the seal even from cleaning so you have to clean and dry which is very annoying)
I have a couple from Sam's Club, not sure of the brand, but they are impossible to clean under the gasket. You can pull it out, but there is a seam in the plastic under the seal, and it builds up in there. It's gross, and defeats the purpose of having reusable bottles.
This is exactly why I use glass cups if at all possible. Screw on caps and valves are hard to clean properly. When I worked on designing sanitary food processing equipment, a lot of effort was put into making wetted areas smooth (no entrapment area) and polished. Companies could do a lot better on this if they followed 3A standards when designing their water bottles and thermoses.
What an awesome extensive testing on these thermos. Personally I have owned and used Hydrolask for over a decade and the only reason I replaced them is because I drop them. Eventually that cracks the insulation effect and they no longer hold hot or cold anymore, they become just another bottle. It was awesome to see the inner layers when you cut them up. This is great because maybe I’ll consider a different brand based on durability on my next bottle purchase. You’re awesome, love this channel. Keep doing what you’re doing. Thanks for all of your extensive and thorough testing/research.
Thanks, will do! Thanks for sharing.
You sir, deserve my respect
Thanks!
Well... did he get it. Did he get your respect?
@@mercdragons , I don't get it !!! ?
Earned your respect?
Respect ma authoritah!
this guy deserves a grammy for how much hard work he puts in just to show us what the best products are
So nice of you!
No, he deserves a testie! Or maybe two testies! 🤣
You mean an Oscar?
You mean he sings too?
I had a Stanley fall off the back of my tractor and before I knew it I tilled it under. Next year I tilled it up and the coffee was still hot.
Did you store chilly sauce in it?
@Willy Bloch, if it had chilly sauce it'd be cold, not hot 😂😂
lol You have some HOT land out there!
Lol.
😆🤣
Great video and comparison. My only complaint would be the exclusion of RTIC. RTIC is the literal same thing as Yeti, in fact they got sued over that exact issue. A lead engineer for Yeti left the company because he didn't like how much they charged for their products, and thus started RTIC. Great quality items at half the cost of Yeti, which is the premise of the video. Would have loved to have seen that comparison, as the price of RTIC makes it a better deal than any of the budget options.
Thank you for the video idea!
RTIC has the same designs, but definitely not the same manufacturing materials. RTIC is cheap shit.
@@dietmdew845 I disagree, but that is simply more of a reason to test and compare it!
@@DeathGamer27 I would also like to see the Ozark Trail bottles included in an updated test. I have both and feel the Ozark Trail does a better job.
@@hereticnasom - I would like to see other ozark trail products in a few tests as well. they're generally the same as other "store brand" camping gear products, so it would cover a fairly wide category.
Expressly because of this video, I bought a Coleman 40oz bottle. It's the best water bottle I've ever owned. Unlike others that have the fold out straw thing going on, the Coleman lid is perfectly leak-proof, flows easily and is easily cleanable. The rubberized bottom with a plain steel "bumper" is also excellent. It doesn't slip or damage surfaces you place it on. If you're carrying it, it's usually the bottom edge that slams into things, so the extra protection is great. I've had it for almost a year, and it's held up like no other.
Thanks for the video, sir.
You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.
Same here, I bought the 40oz version Coleman bottle and I am enjoying it, it is the best bottle overall and really sturdy, dropped it a couple times and it dented a little on the bottom.
It seems like the cost to effectiveness ratio the coleman was the winner.
I bought two 40 oz. They are awesome.
I have had the 40 oz version for 5 years. I use it almost every day and it only has a few scuffs and dents. The only real wear is on the rubber button from many a finger press. I would be genuinely sad if I lost this water bottle lol. Great purcahse.
"Won't shatter. Heh. We're gonna test that!"
The only kind of review that matters.
Thanks for watching.
I love when he says “we’re gonna test that”
He takes the shatter/break/toughness claims as a personal challenge!
Thanks for the feedback.
I've had multiple brands of water bottles/ thermos and the thing I've noticed is there's a big difference in durability of the lids. I only use Yeti and hydro flask now. They hold up really well. Very impressive
For looks yea but if you don’t have the money colmen all the way cheap and just as good
Ok but the Yeti performed poorly on both hot and cold insulation
I'm compelled to express my admiration for you. Your sense of selflessness and abundance of sense, consistently over the years goes noticed by all. Thank you.
At Stanley, we fire the whole bullet! That's 60% more bullet, per bullet!
I know right, graphics designer must be from hollywood
Thanks for the feedback.
@@ProjectFarm demon ranch shot some stanley 22lr wins
I suggest testing hard and soft coolers, including Yeti, RTIC, ORCA, Coleman, and Igloo.
mr5bassman so many people have already done that.
@@DirtyMechanicG35 but, has this man done it?
@@DirtyMechanicG35 yes, but have they tested them as thoroughly as this man. No? Because nobody tests shit like this man.
RTIC is the best
The yeti cooler is like $300🥴
I've been using the 24 oz Coleman for 3 years now and I love it. The cover for the mouthpiece, wide opening for filling, cold retention, and shape and size of the bottle for placing it almost anywhere makes it unbeatable for the situations I need it in. I have damaged a few of them just by dropping them but I like my stuff to be completely scratch free and dent free even if still usable. I would still rather buy replacements than go with a different bottle.
Thanks for sharing.
The coleman was consistently one of the best in every category, while the others seemed better at one thing or another. Plus the amazing design of the cap, which this video doesn't really detail. Imo it's a clear winner
@@aaronpearson1744 it is also has a very good seal. i have not experienced any leaks with it.
Has Project Farm ever tested hoses, either garden hoses or "contractor quality" hoses? I don't know how they could be tested, but I bet PF would know.
Do it Project Farm
I use water hoses for my business every day. Constantly reeling, unreeling, dragging, etc. I've tried many, many brands. The best I've found is the Flexzilla hose with the updated style of connector with the gray swivels. They're light, UV and chemical resistant, durable, very hard to kink and the bright neon color really stands out so less chance of someone tripping over them or running them over with a lawn mower. You can get them in the standard lengths and in standard 5/8" or the larger 3/4".
I'm no Project Farm but I've spent a lot of money on hoses and Flexzilla is by far the best.
I will say, the neon color does fade a bit after a couple seasons but abrasion and living in the South with our summers is pretty hard on stuff.
YES! PLEASE TEST 75' X 5/8" GHT FITTINGS
BOTH TYPES OF ALUMIIUM. And BEST BRASS FITTING ¹
Check for fungi groing on,&insde the nose &fuet "
Great idea
y'know, Project Farm is the only youtube channel that can make testing water bottles interesting. love your content, sir. good job. may you be with us for many more years.
Thank you!
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I'd be curious to see how well the bottles performed after the side-drop test. I suspect a big dent on one of these would seriously impact their insulation ability, as it would cause part of the outer shell to come into contact with the inner shell, which would probably create a spot where temperature could change much easier.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Yes it does affect the insulation. At least from my personal experience using hydroflask, when I’ve dropped mine and cause a large dent, the bottle’s insulation integrity is over. You’ll feel the hot or cold transferring from the damage area. The bottle just becomes another bottle container and no longer able to hold it’s contents temperature as designed to do so. Again, this is from personal experience on Hydroflask, not sure about the other brands.
@@Starburstguy I think you're right. I have the same experience with two of my three Klean Kanteen double-walled bottles.
Thank you for your amazingly thorough and intelligent testing. You are my go to source when I want to get objective, credible, transparent analysis. Although you don’t test every product, no one does or possibly can. You are clearly one of the most useful and the most valuable site on the net and you work hard for it. Again, thank you!!
Thanks and you are welcome!
For this time of year, maybe test storage totes for all of the people "organizing" for the new year. Which ones gets brittle at cold temperatures, resistance to DEET spray, etc. I foresee a test rig with a log on a chain slamming into a loaded tote to test resilience.
A great deal of time and effort is evident in each of your RUclips videos. I’d like to thank you for sharing with the world!
You are welcome!
Always the testing we need, given by the man we don’t deserve. Thank you, Todd.
Thanks
You are welcome! Thanks for supporting the channel! I really appreciate it!
I love the legit testing and unbiased reports of products on this channel , That dropping on the lids must have been fun and that final test of the legendary Farmabago was hilarious , Thank you for such a great channel your work is much appreciated .
Thanks so much!
The amount of work that must go into these videos is incredible. I’m curious what your work flow is like behind the scenes.
Dang, not a single one made in the U.S.A. Great video as always Project Farm!
Thanks!
China, China every where
Very sad.
Thats because the american workers want to much if they were made in USA they would cost way over $50 to purchase so dont complain and take what you get......
@@PGee. you are absolutely right. I would still buy it though, lol.
I'm a big fan of my Zojirushi. Keeps things cold seemingly forever. Looks nice and well built as well. Great video.
Thanks! Thanks for sharing.
which Zojirushi did you buy, there are quite a few different ones out there. And does yours have an inner coating or bare stainless steel?
@@rogierius SM-SF48-AM. I believe it is steel on the inside but I don’t remember for sure.
FINALLY SOMEONE DOES THIS... I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS.
Glad to hear!
It’s a several years late for me, but I appreciate the data. I’ve purchased a variety of water bottles over the years and have finally settled on hydro flask containers. In the past 4 years I’m currently on my second one because as you’ve stated they’re not that durable. They can take a few hits and still function _(although the chipped finish and dents bother me)_ but once you’ve damaged the vacuum seal and it no longer keeps the contents cold/hot it’s time to replace it.
Overall I’m happy with their performance to cost!
@@whodahellru8124 I had similar findings. With that being said, check out Ecovessel. Similar stylings and better thermal performance. Are they more durable? who knows... but they can be acquired for half the cost w/constant promos. I have a 20, 32, and 64oz version. A family of hydration. The only thing I've found to outperform them is the 25oz Swell bottle, but that's both expensive and not very durable.
Would love to see one on coolers! This one was much needed and Appreciated. Thanks man!
Same here, i would love to see if there is a cooler out there that can keep my food at a safe temperature for 24hrs+ with one or two bags put in at the start of the day. i drive truck and have a mini fridge and i haven't had a fridge yet that could decide if my food needed to be frozen or too warm.
@@shettaal I use those LIFETIME coolers from walmart, but Orion coolers are even better.
then there are some aerospace tech companies that sell storage containers for chemical shipping, which are double wall vacuum insulated just like a thermos but they cost even more than Orion coolers, whilst having much more space on the inside compared to the Orion coolers.
I’d like to see the high end hard coolers tested. Yeti, Rtic, Orca, Cabelas, Pelican and so on.
Maybe the 20/30oz tumbler mugs?
Everyone talks Yeti up, so to see them compared again would be nice.
id love to see some high end coolers get tested
Rizknows channel did a great test with this
There is no point in testing hard coolers. Coolers on sale has done a lot of testing on them. They did a lot of test over the last few years and you can see that Yeti, titc, orca and other brands are not worth the money.
I bought one of the lifetime coolers from Walmart and its among one of the best low budget coolers and is far better than the yeti.
ruclips.net/user/CoolersOnSalevideos
Hank, I really miss your TV show! "Hey!" Peggy & Bobby!
@@gus473 boy ani’t right
I am a hunter and i carry an Hydroflask in my backpack in fall for whitetails and i am not surprised how good they performed with your tests! I am so happy Hydroflask rules! Surprised about Yeti’s loss of heat!...
Thanks for sharing.
Liked before even watching. Know it's gonna be good.
Thank you very much!
Same thing I do every video
Every PF video that is
Me to, always.
🏆🏆🏆👍🙏
Thank you for sharing
It would have been interesting to see how the volume of liquid factored into those times. It would seem to make sense that a larger volume of hot or cold water would be an advantage, but that advantage would not be due to the insulation. Additional just a side note the drop on the lid test demonstrates the power of hydraulic shock, other such examples is bowing the bottom off a glass bottle.
Thanks will do!
Yes absolutely. There’s huge difference in volume between these bottles. A larger volume has an advantage of much better volume to surface area ratio, but also with a larger volume of liquid, it would warm up a lot slower. A better test would have been to have the exactly same volume of water in each bottle.
An interesting point, but at the same time, shouldn't you test them how they will be used? Their size is part of the design. You aren't going to be half filling them in daily use for some sense of "fairness."
Also, I don't think it's going to make the difference you think it is. Say the largest one ends up only half full, now the only path of heat ingress/egress is the travel all the way between the lid and the liquid along the thin aluminum wall, or convection through the air in the bottle. Both are gonna be pretty inefficient at heat transfer.
I would have like to see the temperature tests repeated after the drop. I find that even a small dent and drastically reduce how long they stay cold.
Thanks for the constructive feedback.
I was thinking the same thing. Especially with the bottles that say they're vacuum sealed a dent might really mess things up
Usually a decent drop that dents the bottle will kill the vacuum = no longer will keep cold worth squat
@@RustySh4ckleford I can attest to the bigger hydroflasks. I have a 32 oz and my husband has a 40 oz and we are constantly dropping them. If stored upright mine will keep ice if left in my car all day in the summer.
This is the only tested I was interested in.
OMG! I love the Farmabago. Absolutely hilarious. I'm surprised that the Yeti didn't perform well. I have a Yeti 32oz cup and if put something hot in there is still ridiculously hot even half a day later. Great video.
Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.
Wow it’s amazing how you keep putting these ideas into quality videos, well done as always lad!
Thanks so much!
I think if “Zojirushi brand” were included in the test, it would have easily taken the title on temperature retention. Zojirushi makes excellent insulated bottle.
Thanks for the feedback.
Agree.
Yes! Zojirushi’s stay hot all day long
Seems like they make good stuff all around.
agree
Surprised I didn’t see any of the Yeti knock offs like Rtic or Orca.
RTIC is basically Yeti. The person who started RTIC worked at Yeti before they split ways.
I think those are all the same as the Contigo brand.
I bought a Walmart one last summer. The problem with them is they don't work for long. When I first got mine it held ice overnight. It can no longer do that. Once the rubber seals get even tiny, tiny stains on them, they no longer seal as tight and wont keep temperatures anywhere near as long.
Made in the same factory. Same product, different label.
@@henri6595 I have a bottle like this made by RTIC. There is obvious heat/cold loss at the mouth of the bottle. You can feel it with your fingers. As you know the double wall insulation has to come together somewhere and that place is the mouth on the RTIC. Where the joining is, the temperature is transferred from the inside to the outside. I have never tested its temperature retention capabilities. I can say the that it is not all that good. There is a noticeable change whether it starts at hot or cold in just an hours time.
There is NOBODY better than this man on RUclips. Get excited when he’s got a new video out. Outstanding job
Thanks!
Great video! I love how thorough and objective this experiment was. One small detail in the video that should be corrected is when you refer to the bottle's layered construction as "air gaps". They're actually vacuum gaps, which actively prevents heat transfer through a lack of convection. If they were actually "air gaps", they would heat up within minutes instead of hours.
Thanks for the constructive feedback.
I was going for another temp test after doing them. If the dent makes the outer skin touch the inner skin, you'll get heat transfer, and a little debt can make a big difference in temp performance. Great video though!
"some" are a vacuum but "some" have air or other gas in this gap
@@WapTek123 Either way, whether a vacuum or an air gap, if the outside skin is touching the inner container, it's going to cause issues with heat transfer.
It's not a complete vacuum. There is still some air. I guess they could just be called "gaps".
I like how you let us know where it was made .
Thanks!
Lol, you kept calling the coleman "STANLEY" in the both drop tests.
Great video never the less.
Sorry about that! Thanks for watching!
I picked up an Owala bottle recently.. LOVE IT.. ice stays frozen overnight and the built in straw is awesome!
Thanks for sharing.
Hey boss! I've got a suggestion. So, bit of a back story. I'm a construction worker (kind of jack of all trades), actually my family members are as well and we constantly struggle to find quality paint brushes. I searched your channel, but wasn't able to find anything relate (someone please correct me if I'm wrong). I'd like to see which brushes have the sharpest lines, are easiest to clean, keep there shape the longest, and are more recoverable after accidentally being left in the paint for to long (it happens to the best of us, haha 😄).
Thanks for the video idea.
Wooster and Purdy make a good brush. The method you choose to clean them and how they are used will determine how long they will last. Specifically, I like the Wooster alpha 2.5 angle and purdy XL dale 2.5 angle. Never use a wire brush to clean, it will fray the bristle ends. Store them hanging in the original packaging to keep their shape.
Recommendation for video: Was watching Rose Anvil channel as he did his best to test an "indestructible" safety shoe. At the end he mentioned he would like to do a Project Farm style test on Safety shoes. I propose a safety shoe/boot test collaboration with Weston from Rose Anvil! Would be awesome as he knows quite abit about footwear and you are able to do amazing testing. Also safety footwear certainly applies to this channel. Cheers!
Mr. Project Farm, There is no doubt that you put in a whole lot of time doing the research format you made for research and yourself. There is nobody that dedicates your show to depict, accurate results. Very informative and we love you!
Thanks so much!
@@ProjectFarm Is a farm of learning and lifestyle. Yep learning from those who seek the truth of comprtition..
Wow! You are very thorough. I just happen to have the Coleman. Had it for about a year now and love the push button seal spout. Haven't shot it, dropped it, run it down with my van yet, so I have no durability comparison to boast. But it does keep liquids cold and hot. The push button drink allows access without opening anything to allow warm or cold in. That's why I got it. Mine was almost 20 bucks including tax, so wasn't the cheapest. But sure wasn't the 40 dollar brand, Stanley? Still made in China one,either.
Thanks for going to the work u do to check stuff out. You the man,👍. Take care.
I own a Stanley thermos for a few years now and can say that its really good at insolating. I once left it out in the sun during a camping trip for like 30 min. Real hot day. Couldn't comfortibly touch the thing anymore yet when I the water out it was still ice cold. Also handled me dropping it a few times pretty well. Haven't tried much other flasks so I can't say if its anything special though.
I usually buy Thermos brand. I like their large mouth for food. Super for chili and stew and soups.
I guess once you buy a brand and it works, ya stick with it. Take care.
@@peterford9369 Yes, Peter...Exactly my brand of choice after many years of comparison/contrast use... Thermos. The lids/caps on Thermos are better and more durable too. I do pre-heat for coffee/tea..and it has never been beat by any other i've tried.
I love the internet because of people like you. Thank you. 😔💙
You are welcome!
I’m surprised Yetis direct competitor RTIC isn’t in this test.
agreed...I don't have a single Yeti product but thanks to Buc-ee's, my family have plenty of the wide mouth insulated mugs from RTIC.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Idk how far they've branched out of texas. Like my cup a lot though.
@@ldsiverling im on the east coast and they are in every walmart
I live in Houston and Rtic is manufactured and distributed just outside of Houston off hwy 290. I can tell you that about 3-4 years go, Buc-Ee’s stopped distributing Rtic. Is a shock to me that @DylanVansant stated Rtic can be bought from Walmart. I am shocked that Rtic didn’t make the list over Yeti. My personal experience is Rtic held way more ice in my 45 quart cooler over Yeti, on the same summer day, while fishing Galveston Bay, and opening and closing the Rtic all day for drinks, versus only using the Yeti for a backup. I knew that day Rtic was a far better brand than overpriced Yeti brand.
Yeah I prefer these bottles with their screw-on caps. Spill-proof. Also good are screw-on caps with a drink mechanism you can flip up and down easily.
Anything that foils my dog's attemps to knock over my drink containers in my car. 😄
I love your exhaustive tests! 👍
I wonder how a LTTstore water bottle woulda stacked up given its 30 bucks!
Thanks for the suggestion.
Not gonna lie, I expected this, yet I was still surprised
Well who is the OEM? I bet it's not an original design.
@@ColtonBlumhagen Of the ones tested here, the LTT bottle looks the most like an Eastrim -- the lid design is very similar if not the same
@@Evan-qk3ml Yeah the lid looks completely different. If you Google LTT water bottle OEM the first result is the LTT forum, shows one branded kaxani that is exactly the same. But not sure if they're OEM. Linus is in the comments and he says there's an OEM but he doesn't confirm who.
I'd like to recommend testing a Zojirushi thermos; I got an older model from a thrift store and find that it's still hot 24+ hours later. Not sure if the new ones are still as good, my model is skdb-10 1.0L and originally had a plaid fabric as a decorative lining on the outside, which I removed and found it's stainless steel underneath.
In my experience, in the morning I put boiling water in and use it through the day to dispense 2-to-3oz of hot water at a time to mix with room temp water for baby formula. I and use the leftover the following morning for black tea to empty it out and rinse it before putting fresh boiled water.
Agreed, from my understanding this is the top brand for temperature maintenance (not durability). I also have one.
I wonder how the genuine, original Thermos would have fared in his testing. I remember the one I had as a kid being awesome.
2nd! I have one and love it. It's beat to hell but I use it as a hammer sometimes and frequently drop it on concrete so there's that. Actually gave them out to my wedding party as gifts. Also made in Thailand instead of china.
Zojirushi stuff is top notch. Their stuff is lightweight, too. I wouldn't be surprised if they used deep-drawing and flow forming on the inner shell to get it as thin as possible. They probably make the steel at the neck thinner to limit heat loss to the outside as well. The biggest two regions for heat loss in a vacuum thermos are the cap and the neck. I would love to see a zojirushi cut open.
I own a Zojirushi thermos made in Thailand. I must say that it keeps liquids hot for many hours (never tried cold but assume same results). For a small affordable thermos it's pretty amazing.
Thanks for sharing.
I was going to say the same - the zojirushi brand thermoses are pretty good. I have some yetis (and off brands) as well, but the zojirushis are so much better.
I got a zojirushi, been using it since 2016. Used many different brands of bottles alongside it , zojirushi out lasted all others
Zojirushi is by far the best thermos ive ever owned.
which Zojirushi did you buy, there are quite a few different ones out there. And does yours have an inner coating or bare stainless steel?
After seeing this vid a few months ago, I put the Coleman in my Amazon wishlist. Someone then got it for me for Xmas. I've been using it constantly for both hot and cold beverages since. And I love it.
Thanks for sharing.
Project farm: "We're gonna test that!"
Manufacturers: 😳😢😳😢
Lmao
Thanks for watching.
Great testing! One small thing, you called the Coleman “Stanley” a couple of times. 👍🏻
That threw me off too, shame since it seems to be the best value
Sorry about that!
I realized that to
“Responsibly made” sets off indirect alarm bells for me
Why? I don’t get it lol
@@Alexander_l322 because it is unverifiable marketing wank that doesn’t indicate good quality, or guarantee that it is actually responsibly made.
@@Alexander_l322 if those are truly “responsibly” made (whatever that means) are the ones just marked Made in China irresponsibly made?
@@nobodyyouknow1065 yes
@@Binford2500 oh okay then
Here I was looking for what screwdriver to purchase when I found this channel, a week later I have seen an absurd amount of videos about products I dont really need but I still enjoy knowing how to determine better quality products overall. I do want to buy a Coleman bottle now 🤣 Keep up the great work!
Thanks, will do!
I ended up with 7 Yeti thermoses during a job. I've noticed the heat loss mostly coming from the lid area. It's especially noticeable when using near boiling liquids in the larger thermoses. As observed from my testing, covering the lid and a few inches down the body is enough to maintain scalding temperatures over night. The thermoses that more focus on absolute insulation have a double lid probably to insulate the area around the lid better.
Thanks for sharing.
Keeping the yeti upright and not filling it all the way to the cap will both give you major insulation improvements in my experience
@@areoladan5580 Good to know. I have one of these (gift from my MiL who saw me admiring hers last trip I took to her place) that I like but have been surprised to see my son's cheaper Coleman seems to actually outperform it in terms of keeping ice frozen over longer periods. But I'll try your suggestion to see if it helps. It's also good to see that the Yeti is more durable than most, I'm clumsy and tall so I need the extra help in that area and love taking my water bottles everywhere. I've had the HydroFlasks in the past as well but after seeing this I'll probably just go w/ Coleman from now on.
@@jmckey yeah the yeti bottles are tanks. I’ve only got a couple small dents in one that I use on the daily for the past three years, both when it was dropped from chest height on concrete floors when it was full. I stopped using hydroflasks because the lids can’t be cleaned well but I may switch to the Colemans as long as they are easily cleanable
@@jmckey other thing to consider is, taste transfer and ease of cleaning. I am always on road in rural canada. Not all gas stations have designated washing area/sink. So something that can be easily cleaned is a big plus. Then you have taste transfer problem, some brands impart metallic taste to hot coffee (coffee is acidic). My contigo had this problem, hydro flask has been best so far (no taste transfer at all).
My sons hydro flasks are still doing fine. Durable enough for me.
Good work. Subscribed.
Thanks! Thanks for watching and subscribing!
Next time on project farm: testing the efficacy of Pfizer and Moderna vaccines after being stored at -40°.
Or test different distances to contract the virus or hand washing techniques
Pr not
Fahrenheit or Celsius? :P
@@Icantfindanavailablehandle Cant be questioning the efficiency or masks or your family gets taken away. Ain't china great?
OMG, THANK YOU! You even dropped on the lids! This was fabulous!! I'd really like something that holds at least a quarter or a liter and can keep it cold. Renal failure is no joke and simple dehydration can cause it and many other things too. Dehydration begins, in your body, 2 hours after your last drink (8oz glass of water or there about) according to my urologist. You don't notice it at all until you are nearly doing damage. If your kidneys are healthy, they will likely bounce back with no repercussions (our bodies are amazing) but never let it go that far.
Thanks for sharing.
YOU ARE RIDICULOUS
Dehydration is a 24/7 ongoing process that never stops. You do NOT need to to drink 8 glasses of water a day, you will NOT start causing kidney damage after 2 hours. Stop the "i must be guzzling water non stop every day panic. Do you know when you should drink something? . . . WHEN YOU ARE THIRSTY. The human body IS amazing and it certainly doesn't need the level of micro-managing quadruple-filtered water drinking that so many think are gospel.
This mania about guzzling water has been primarily caused by 2 things: The increase in preserved(salted) convenience foods over the last 25 years, and the amount of bottled water companies trying to fear people out of drinking tap water (including travel bottles).
for the record, the hydroflasks seem the easiest for my family to use & not destroy.
Thorough, unbiased review. Because of this video I ended up getting the hydroflask and I am glad I did. You have earned a new subscriber!
Thanks! Thanks for watching and subscribing!
It’s a shame seeing companies like YETI get so big they stop focusing on the very thing they claim to be the best at.
Wouldnt own a yeti product, and if I were gifted one, I'd regift it.
Doesn't seem they ever focused on it. It was all just good marketing.
While I do use my Yeti everyday, I'll admit I wasn't very impressed with how it stacked up
@@HangTimeDeluxe You're an engineer, right? Which one is actually the best? It seems the vacuumed space is a requirement. I saw another one that used a copper sheath that did well. What all would you stack up to make the very best one, if money was no object?
Yeti never made a good product. It's just overpriced designer brands crap that is made to fool yuppies.
Extremely thorough testing as always! You need some fuel squirting into the exhaust cones of the Farmabago so we can see huge flames as you're moving along. LOL Great video!
Thank you!
@@ProjectFarm Thanks for another great analysis. However, I was surprised - ALL of the flasks were made in China? Are there none from the US available? That's not a complaint, it's a point of curiosity, because for all I know, China may have the market cornered.
@R I T A • Н О Т • G І R L shut up
@@ProjectFarm would like to see ice chest testing. Styrofoam, yeti, coleman, etc...
Also with and without rock salt would be nice.
@@thedancingpickle6362 They are scammers
I own the hydro cell. Filled it up with ice and water. Forgot it in my truck in 95 degree weather. All day all night and still had ice the next day. Best I ever seen
This guy is so methodical, not many reviews are going to be so unbiased and scientific in their process. Much appreciated!
Thanks!
I would really have liked to see the Zojirushi stainless steel mugs. I've bought them for the entire extended family since they have a fantastic lid design. Easy one handed operation, easy to clean and to my mind holds things cool or hot for a very long time
Thanks for the suggestion.
Yea zojirushi is a serious product that could easily stand up in this challenge.
We should add TIGER as well. They are the rival of Zojirushi in Japan since a loooooong time ago
Zojirushi is the absolute best.
@@grahamdonaldson29 That has been my experience. While purely anecdotal, I live in AZ, and my Zojirushi bottles performs better at keeping liquids cold than the other brands I've used.
I've used Kleen Kanteen for several years and love them. I have 3 different sizes and they all perform wonderfully. Recently however, I started using the Yeti because of the lid/cap design and love it. It's sad to see it isn't as efficient as the other brands but i drink multiple refills and never notice much of a difference either way. If i ever lose all of my bottles, I'm probably going to switch it up for one of the hydrology bottles. It performed great for it's price. 👍🏼
Thanks for the feedback.
got 2 klean kanteen. 1 wide mouth started leaking after just a month of use. the other narrow mouth is still holding on like a champ even after 3 years
@@thirdtres I've got one of those wide mouths too and it's great. Sucks your us leaking though.
I have 3 Klean Kanteens - all single wall / un-insulated. I use them for hiking. For me they are a nice balance between price, weight, capacity, and durability. I've put in a lot of miles with them with no issues, just a few scuff marks.
@@bennydarko what?
Just curious wouldn’t the bottles closest to the freezer cooling vent get cold faster due to proximity to the cooling source? Probably would have been better to just leave them out for 12 hours great video as usual though
Good point. Something else is that some bottles were larger than others, and I imagine that the bottles containing more liquid were able to retain their temperature better
@@Bshsiu72926did you watch? They contained the same amount of water
I honestly this is the most detailed and in depth video I have ever watched !!
Thanks!
PF: Hello, I'd like to return this flask I bought, I have the receipt.
Seller: Good grief, these look like they have been dropped on an angle iron, dropped on their cap, run over and then cut in half.
PF: No, they were like that when I got them out of the packaging.
lol. Thank you
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thats funny thanks for the laugh
I would like to see a video comparing different cooler manufactures and comparing different backpacking tents. Maybe make a whole camping series.
Great suggestion! Thank you.