This is also a good point they said: they didn't want a developmental program that trained wrestlers, but wanted a developmental program to train actors and entertainers. And that's what they got now
Toni left though because of how toxic the environment is when you're in the main roster. They treat you like shit and you have to just accept it. Until you reach your breaking, like Toni did.
@@el-youtub3r402 You don't know that. You're guessing. I'm not disputing how toxic the main roster atmosphere is but you don't know why she left at all.
Storm is the third NXT female super talent that has been fed to Charlotte in the most ridiculous, non-sensical way. Asuka was the first, then came Rhea and now Toni. At least Toni had enough balls to say “F-You! I am out of here!”
I think it's just the random jump in schedule. She popped up on one SmackDown and all she did was pop up on screen with Boogs then travel with no plans to be on the show. She randomly popped back up with no steam and using pie as a feud starter? It's like Kross. This good momentum after his injury comeback and he loses to Hardy, which isn't bad to put up a losing streak against, but for WWE to cut their 10 minutes to 90 seconds, everybody looks bad. Toni looked like a fool as well as Doudrop. They have these build of momentum from the independents to NXT UK to NXT, and to get misplaced intentionally with no clear plans, why call them up? Why get my hopes up when you won't use me?! Elias and Xia Li might be next if this pattern continues.
Yeah but both Asuka and Rhea ended up beating Charlotte later on. I can see the "newbie" getting called up, falling short, and then putting in the work/getting better and getting their win back. However, I agree it's a bad look to call them up only for them to lose right away. Let them win a couple, then lose to Charlotte, and tell the story of them putting in the work with the payoff of beating Charlotte.
Imagine in 80s if every wrestler that lost to Hogan quit after ? It's almost like people worked for money and weren't marks for themselves and didn't cry because they weren't the champ .
Without notice, I quit my job of three decades a month ago. Best feeling in the world when you work in a sea of bullshit (retail management in my case), and just walk away, leaving it all in the rear view mirror. Take note, folks. Always have options, never need a company just to get by. Most importantly - save up your money so you can have what's called "F.U. Money."
I love it when wrestlers (from any promotion) just go “fuck it I don’t need this shit” and go home. Wrestling seems like it can be such a punishing miserable existence for some people and I respect any wrestler that decides they don’t need to put themselves through it all just for the cash. It is also funny when people tell WWE to fuck cause they do seem like such arseholes to work for!
I’ll never forget the first time she popped up on the main roster for the survivor series matches and she was literally trending on Twitter and I thought she’s blonde, hot, and can wrestle there’s no way she won’t be your favorite for everybody lol.
@@torn314 You're thinking Gigi Dolin. She wears the top hat Also, are you absolutely fucked in the head? Toni Storm is one of the top female wrestlers on the planet
This was the inverse of how Nathan Jones left back in 2003 - he decided to quit, did a WWE tour to Australia/New Zealand, and then when everyone left he stayed behind & that was that. If you do this the way Toni Storm did it, you REALLY want out.
@@johnberry2678 That's what the higher-ups in the WWE want us to believe why she left/quit the WWE. To me, it's a combination of a lot of stuff she left, her booking against Charlotte that made her look like a total joke, not being allowed to put on a match she's capable of against Charlotte, Yes, burnout of traveling, Her mental stresses. Toni Storm had the complete package that they wanted in a female performer and to me, they didn't do a great job of supporting her.
This is one of the problems with having your wrestling promotion double as an NYSE stock. Shareholders don't care about the way it's *supposed* to be run, only that it's profitable. Merch sales are more important than a quality production, and that will never change as long as they're publicly traded. They'll never allow Triple H or another wrestler to take charge and right the ship, because it would look bad in Forbes Magazine or the New York Times. WWE is slowly circling the drain, and the water's getting real low.
Bingo!!! People blame Linda McMahon's political career as the main reason WWE went PG. While that may have been part of it, the main reason in my opinion was when the company went public. They went PG so that corporations would feel better buying advertising on their shows. Which of course makes more money for the shareholders.
@Zach Sabbath Did I say it was a bad thing to make money? It only becomes detrimental when making more money sacrifices the product being produced. Which in this case it undoubtedly has.
@@TRivera13 The company went public 2001 or 2002. Also, I want to remind everyone that smackdown was pg the whole time. In 2008, the company went overboard cleaning up their image imho. It was like rated G instead of pg.
The moment Toni got smashed in the face with a Pie is the moment where she said to herself this isn't wrestling I am out of here. So she had a triple threat match with Charlotte and Sasha at a house show then dipped off. That's says it all right there. She just worked with two of the best talents in the entire company not a bad way to go out. You have to understand the mindset of someone who is passionate about Pro wrestling. Most ppl that are passionate about Pro wrestling aren't in WWE. They usually end up leaving. The ones that stick around WWE are the ones that stay for a paycheck. You can tell when talent loses their passion. There's a huge difference between Pro wrestling and entertainment.
@@heavenismydomicile3280 look what happened to Zeina vega . did she go anywhere after being released from wwe ?? of course not. she came back and at least appears on TV. Storm ; was called up to the main roster and she just quit . I wish her the best but in my opinion she won't go far as for her wrestling career goes
"This generation," as if Stone Cold didn't take his ball and go home. Shawn Michael's didn't piss and moan hourly. Hulk Hogan being a huge diva. Difference now is that the business isn't as good as a whole as it once was, so today's wrestlers are seen as "whiney" instead of "backstage politicking" like the old days.
its the environment that is extremely toxic. Even I wouldn't wanna work for WWE. The Rock left for Hollywood, Lesnar got tired and ended his contract, so did Goldberg, even Taker wanted to quit, Bret Hart was screwed over, they ruined Bart Gunn's career over something that wasn't even his fault, Batista got tired and left, the number of ludicrous booking decisions they made for Wyatt/Fiend which made him quit, Jinder nearly quit the second time, only after taking roids got a decent push. Ronda Rousey is a very recent example. Moxley as well. Nash and Hall 20 plus years ago jumped ship. Zack Ryder aka Matt Cardona gave his life and soul, he loved wrestling so much and they released him just like that.
@@Mustafa70116 u did all that typing just to prove everything you said is completely justifiable...the rock opened the door for wrestlers to enter Hollywood after they retire or have a career threatening injury...Vince didnt want brett to leave to wcw with the belt AND did not wanna listen to his boss...ronda rousey loss 1 time in ufc and couldn't handle it mentally came to wwe was super green and damn near was injuring the girls...all the women in the lockeroom did not like ronda because she couldn't wrestle but she was making the most money and getting pushed soo thats why ronda left also she didn't like getting boo'd by the fans...zack Ryder fucking sucks he shouldn't of never been hired...as for taker I've never heard of him wanting to quit...hell he didn't even wanna retire...Austin didn't wanna do the job to brock Lesnar which i wouldn't of either if i was him...nash and hall was greedy mfs who left for 5 million dollar checks who both said they regret leaving wwf for wcw...if i worked for wwe i would leave for aew...wwe has been pg for too long...in the 80s you had hulk hogan eat your vitamins era which ended in 96 for the attitude era...if vince doesn't do that wcw wins the war...we've been in a lil kid pg universe for damn near 15 years its time to get back serious...if mjf goes to wwe 2024 they will destroy his character
Ya forgot to mention rousey getting slumped in 48! seconds by Nunez too she was placed on a pedestal and was knocked off it by Holly Holm and didnt even rematch either… yet wwe poisoned the minds of many stealing “Baddest bit*h on the planet”
Comparing Toni Storm to SCSA, Shawn Michaels and Hulk Hogan is like comparing your local High School football team to the Dallas Cowboys, Pittsburgh Steelers and SF 49ers. “Backstage politicking” makes sense for Charlotte or Sasha or Becky, Toni Storm is 26 years old and hasn’t earned that privilege yet. Of course she can just go home and no one can stop her, she just proved it, but if she quit because she wasn’t happy with her standing in the women’s division then it is “whiney”, and foolish.
Hopefully Toni is ok. If she is burned out it happens or maybe something else is wrong. Who knows? Toni was definitely a top prospect for a long time. Hopefully we see Toni Storm wrestle again.
@@tonyslicer7399 "a quitter?" So, are you still working at McDonald's? You got one job and you're gonna stick with it for the rest of your life. It's called "having self respect" you pissant. Did you label Bobby Lashley a quitter when he left Impact to return to WWE? Was Stone Cold labeled a quitter when he left ECW for WWE?
Toni Storm pulled a “Wendi Ritcher” when she got fed up with waiting around the locker room area and getting a pie in the face. These things killed her character and opportunity to be acknowledged as a top wrestler. Plus, Toni was a great wrestler.
And if she shows up at AEW, the IWC will say WWE going out of business (again), if she takes time off and returns to WWE, they gonna call her stupid. Whatever, she been traveling since she was 17 and been with 5 promotions in 7 yrs.
The way the fued with Charlotte was playing out, Storm was never gonna get her revenge and be elevated as the champion. Getting embarrassed every week in clownish fashion, looking like a chump, losing repeatedly and then you’re relegated to catering? She made the right move. She chose dignity over money. Salute to her 💯
I think Charlotte is the spoiled, selfish entitled brat due to her family name. She's not willing to make the wrestlers she works with to be elevated to greatness. I had a feeling that Toni Storm would get buried in that feud. It was a smart move to get out of the organization ASAP. I felt she walked away from the company more than requesting her release. That reminds me of my job where a new employee arrives to work for one day and then they disappear the next day, or they work for a couple of weeks, then one day they go on break and we never see them again instead of putting in a two week notice and leave on good terms.
It's really sad to see what WWE did to themselves after being a teen in the 90s and seeing it so big! You'd figure they could easily understand why wrestling sucks and just take it back to how it was when it was good.
So you understand, that moron Vince thought the same, took NXT over now, and wants it to be 100% gimmicks. Idiotic Doink the clowns and the like. To Vince that's what sold on TV. The worst part is, Tony Khan became a fan of THAT too. He's trying to do that himself.
Oh, my God, Jim and Brian’s laughing at 7:50 is so hilarious, it got me laughing too. But in all seriousness, I don’t blame Toni Storm for leaving WWE. If the WWE keeps this up at this rate, eventually the majority, or the entirety, of the roster will be doing the same and who could blame them.
Its a shame, I liked Toni... I don't understand why they buried her so brutally... Unless thats just what Charlotte's new gimmick is... burying people by throwing potatoes and acting like its their fault.
I would have quit if I were her as well. The booking of her and Charlotte was bullshit. Sure Charlotte wins but storm came off as a jobber. Now had the wwe, made this a program in which she jobbed this poorly to Charlotte then work her way up to beat Charlotte at Mania; maybe that would be worth it.
@Sub if you are against Antifa and BLM I’m with you, I know a lot of people won’t admit it but most women’s wrestling is just awful, and it’s so hard to look believable. I always said if I had my own promotion I might not have women’s wrestling period. Unless they can all work close to or on the same level as a Serena Deeb I’m not even attempting it. That’s just me though, I’m sure that’s not a popular opinion
@@johnberry2678, that’s just speculation. They work 3-4 dates per week. They get plenty of off time and chances to recover. It’s not like a generation ago where they were working 300+ days a year with hardly any down time. Those guys suffered serious burnout and had to recover with an injury angle that kept them off the road for a few weeks every few years. Most likely, and we’ll have to hear from her, is that it was piss poor booking. She’s a hot, young talent made to look like a jobber. I’m not sure how much input Vince has these days (he is a known control freak), but my money is on Kevin Dunn being the one pulling the strings. It’s no secret he hates pro wrestling and has been trying to get as far away from anything resembling that.
I had a feeling that WWE don't know what to do with a Toni Storm like so many talent that went from NXT and then got transferred to the main roster. Ironically, it seems like NXT is a developmental brand for stars to go to AEW.
@@jonathanbynoe4375 The only reason NXT is a developing brand for aew is because Vince and his goons are determined on ruining anything new and fresh. They run the NXT talent like shit, because they don't give two shits about them
@@1972BoNeZ666 Moxley let his contract run out and in the meantime let them book Nia to attack him, getting killed week after week by Drew, and did a bunch of Shield reunions. Not the same.
@@MrJjburgess11 make sure you get out of your mom's basement first. You seem like you have no life yourself, worrying about what makes other people happy.
They repeatedly made Toni look like a chump in the last month or so against Charlotte and they were "blindsided" by this!? Serves them right and good on her for refusing to take their shitty booking and not let them further ruin her credibility or strip every last bit of her dignity away with how badly they buried her, she's way too talented to be misused the way she was on the main roster. At least Triple H knew how to utilize her correctly when he had her in NXT and NXT UK because apparently he's the only one higher up in the company who knows the meaning of the word 'talent' anymore
Have you never heard of a babyface push? Toni shouldn't win against Charlotte until it's on a grand stage like Wrestlemania-- Toni wasn't going to win the title on a random Smackdown Episode lol. Toni had no patience to wait. She was actually being used in main event matches. LOL she left for New Zealand after a triple threat match with Charlotte and Sasha Banks-- the two most over women in wrestling aside from Becky Lynch. She's an entitled spoiled brat, and she showed that she has no patience to actually put in the effort to get over with fans before a mega push. Good riddens.
@@teecakes Someone definitely wasn't watching when they made her look completely inferior to Charlotte literally every single week aside from pieing her in the face and pinning her in a tag match. She practically had no chance in the title match itself because of how she'd been booked up to that point and how they booked that match in particular. The crowd definitely wanted her to win, but she wasn't going to because they made her look like a chump as I already said. It's called having dignity and regaining control of your own character because you know you're far too talented to be reduced to their clown show booking
@@Colt2OO2 bro, you’ve watched wrestling before, right? Of course the crowd wanted her to win, she’s the babyface to Charlotte’s monster heel. That’s how this works, but if she beats Charlotte too early then there’s no story to tell, no arc of redemption for our fallen hero, just 2 people having a match. The monster heel crushes our young babyface, humiliates them, crushes their spirit and tries to break them completely. Our babyface gets back up, fights through the obstacles and eventually, on the big stage, defeats the monster heel, and we get to experience the triumph alongside our babyface champion. You’d prefer a 26 year old unknown with a ridiculous 80’s rock gimmick come in and immediately compete on the same level as the most decorated and (whether you like it or not) the best female wrestler in the business? A feud with Charlotte is good for your career, not bad for it. A feud with Charlotte puts you on tv every week for the length of the program. A feud with Charlotte means the company sees something in you. She’ll be doing matches with Abadon and Rebel on Dark:Elevation for half the money soon enough.
@@12ozmouse99 Don't get it twisted, I wasn't saying immediately push her to the moon and make her champion right away because then there'd be backlash anyway, but she was pushed very well in NXT and NXT UK before having her obvious talents wasted on the main roster because they didn't really know what they had, so I still don't blame her for leaving. I don't think having her get embarrassed almost every week and then losing a pretty lopsided title match is a sign that they saw anything other than yet another interchangeable wrestler to feed to Charlotte Flair in Toni Storm. Why else do you think Asuka and Rhea Ripley had their auras damaged after facing and losing their titles to her? They don't see any other stars besides Becky, Sasha, Bayley, Bianca and potentially Liv Morgan and all they want is for Charlotte to surpass her father's legacy, which is why regardless of how good she is in the ring, they keep giving her title reigns and burying the rest of the division apart from the names I mentioned.
@@Colt2OO2 Every one of the women you named in your response are undeniably better workers, bigger draws, and have paid more dues than any other women in the company, right? They are on top because they’ve earned their positions there. Charlotte, Becky, Sasha, Bailey, and now Bianca and even Liv as well, have spent years with the company, paid their dues, honed their craft and that’s why they are where they are. You’ve got to put in the time, that’s my whole point. If the company is working you early on with their best talent, it’s because they see potential in you. If they didn’t like her she’d be in a program with Doudrop or Tamina. The pie stuff was dumb as hell, sure but Charlotte endured the same dumb shit. Toni was on the main roster for what, 6 months? 6 months and walking because of booking decisions is ridiculous. Then again her booking may have absolutely nothing to do with her walking away. We’ll have to wait to hear from her on why she left.
"Toni isn't the first person to quit" thanks captain obvious, there is still context behind it that is unique to her experience and different from other people quitting, people quit for different reasons. Shocker eh?
Multiple articles have cited that she quit due to burnout on the road, keep in mind while Toni’s been with the company for a few years, she is only just now being used on the road and I’m guessing that the traveling schedule was draining.
I think Jim's right. It's not really in anybody's interest to fight this out in court. If it was Roman Reigns or something then maybe they go to the mat so to speak fighting it. But they probably don't give a crap that much about Toni Storm when they've already released so much talent of her equivalent.
On the flip side it sends the message that if talent doesn't like what's going on, they can just up and quit. Doesn't help the creative process (whatever the hell that is) when you don't know who's going to show up and who's not. But...Vince has always said the performers were "independent contractors". He's about to find out what that really means.
@@TRivera13 He's always known what that means. The guy had Steve Austin walk out before. He knows. lol And WWE's creative process is turning their TV shows into clip farms for RUclips and social media. That's seriously it. Shows are written for viral videos. That's why the entire 2 - 3 hour shows don't follow a narrative like they used to.
I think AEW will snap her up as soon as they can. Their women's division is a lot better than it was, but they still need a bit more talent, starpower, and someone who's not green. Toni Storm checks all three of those boxes
The WWE environment is not so conducive for everyone's health. I hope Tony storm takes care of herself and continue to find success on wrestling business.
Get ready to put together more pro wrestling brands like the NWA and others like them because the WWE keeps self destructing. Paying the price for all those years/decades of success and being on top with massive ratings. It has to come to an end, whether they like it or not. Good luck on your future plans Toni Storm.
The Fed is literally making more $$$ right now than at any other point in it’s existence . The rise of the NWA or GCW or CZW has been heralded for years now by smarky internet fans to no avail. The territories have been dead for 40 years, they’re not coming back. Any fantasies of WWE being done in by all those decisions that you don’t agree with are just that, fantasies. If you consider the billion dollars per year that the Fed pulls in “paying the price”, then you and I have 2 very different understandings of what that phrase means.
That pie in the face storyline with Charlotte and her debut was flirting with dolph Ziggler backstage because vince thinks they are the same. I dont blame her for wanting to get out of there. They intentionally bury you and mess with your life. Vince has booked that way and is an extremely petty human being.
The irony is, if she did nothing, people would say she's taking up space of a hungrier, better wrestler. She leaves, and people complain about her leaving a "cushy" job.
@@natebaxter9551 while a cushy job is nice, it’s also nice to want to do something. For some it makes you miserable and just want out, seems like that’s what happened here.
What I’m really gleaning from this segment is that a person works so hard to get where they want to be through their dreams and then they realize it’s not all cracked up as it was supposed to be. I have sat by the fountain of prosperity and realized that I had what I wanted all along before I even got there.
The problem is the fans, now wrestlers, that loved WWF in the attitude era have grown up and wanted to be a part of that same energy. Ironically, It's like going back to the popular pool of your childhood, you probably look hot but now the pool is shallow with dirty water.
And the day after Christmas, she was chasing the 24/7 Championship at a show in Tampa. She also was told last minute (that morning) about the triple threat for the next show in Orlando.
Manipulating Connecticuts subcontractor laws the way they have should be illegal in the first place. And on that note, WRESTLERS ARE HUMAN BEINGS NOT CATTLE
The fake praise is ridiculous. She LITERALLY wrestled Charlotte on Smackdown and they both skipped it. They watched that ep, by the way, because they reviewed Paul Heyman's promo.
Toni Storm has been a wrestler before she was on smackdown you know that right ??? She threw pies and they bearly had a match ofc they skipped it :D :D
Rhea passed her long ago Jom don't watch no fucking NXTUK but us such a hater he'll Cape for a fuckdoll that ain't said a word worth a dime!! What's that - "Vince likes blondes"??? Well doesn't that make you the simp...
Young,attractive and blonde just how Vince likes em so I'm surprised they had nothing for her to do. She knew that she wasn't gonna beat Charlotte and most likely after that whole feud she was gonna be forgotten again so why hang around
If she goes to AEW she'll just be returning to the same situation she left. AEW's women's division is garbage with it run by Kenny Omega. All he cares about is getting Joshi talent over. I can't wait for Cornette to talk about Big Swole Tony Khan situation.
@@illuminatingdarkness3689 I'm not talking about Big Swole's wrestling. It's about her comments of how AEW is run as a company and Khan's Shitter reaction to them.
Is it really shocking news? For the first time in 20 years, they have a viable alternative, and they're not afraid to use it. Vince hasn't been afraid to abuse his position when he's had a monopoly, the wrestlers should give him the same in return. I'm so glad to see they're saying "This isn't good enough for me, goodbye", instead of holding out some false hope that threatening to quit would lead to the situation improving.
She original from New Zealand and later moved to Australia when she was child. Now she living in USA with Juice Robinson from Impact wrestling and NJPW.
I could totally understand why she would quit. Imagine waiting so long to finally get your moment and move up to the main roster only for them to bury you with shitty booking.
But she didn't get buried..he was just wrestling for the smackdown title lol. Stop the nonsense. Since the video didn't tell you as well. She was nxt uk champ for awhile, maybe a whole year.
@@hoax845 Having a title opportunity in WWE is not a major accomplishment for fuck sakes. WWE is the land of "fuck wins and losses, you'll get a title shot and immediately fall back down to the lower mid-card"
@@hoax845 and instead of being in a feud that's based around "who's the best" it was a goddamn storyline of "haha, you look so stupid because I hit you with a pie. That's so funny" What is WWEs obsession with having women feud over dumb bullshit? Mandy Rose and Nia Jax feuded for literally months, and what did they feud over? A BOTTLE OF FUCKIN WATER! Who the fuck would want to be involved in this dog shit?
@@Excremental_Discharge just say you hate wwe and don't understand the word or concept of #1 contender. Didn't need 2 posts for you to cry or expose how much you biased. That was amusing though so thanks. If you think wwe's women's division is bad...please don't run and tell what you think of aews women's division.
@@patrickboian8545 Karl Anderson and Luke Gallows told the story on Jericho's podcast, saying he said it at the catering during Wrestlemania week one year.
Typically, the non-compete clause is a set amount of time AFTER they stop paying you, regardless of reason. You aren't allowed to write a contract that effectively retires a person from a profession. And anything left vague, will be read to the benefit of the contractor, not the company. I bet there are a few headliners that would quietly help fund her case just so that they have the precedent set.
Stars walking out like that should be a sign for WWE to look in the mirror and ask “what did we do wrong” Problem is, WWE never sees themselves to be at fault. They’re also big enough in the business to not care. They shrug it off and keep going, keep exploiting
I don't blame her. She is only 26 years old, she has years of time left on her career. WWE will never use her correctly nor will they give her a chance. Just because she had a program with Charlotte doesn't mean they are giving her a chance because they seem to just use her to put over Flair even more. She is in her prime. She can go anywhere and work in any company.
I’m going to reserve judgment until Toni herself makes a statement. I don’t care to delve into the speculation. The way she left sounds a bit unprofessional but I can sympathize with mental burnout. She’s only 26, who knows in 3 years she could be back. With a new hold
it does sound a tad unprofessional but honestly looking at where she works at WWE management is notorious for being extremely unprofessional, look at every wrestle that left and they all say the same thing its toxic unprofessional and if you're not part of the inner circle and licking their A Hole and drinking their kool aid they aint gonna listen to you. . Some times telling management to F off im Done is the only way.
This story is crazy, I did not see that coming. I initially thought it was, "fake news"😅. That said, the fact that more, and more people lose their passion for wrestling, after working for WWE, gives people like Punk, and others, who wanted out of this machine, more credence🤷🏿♂️
WWE has to be very careful with the international wrestlers they have on the roster. They've already left everything they know to work there. I'm sure they miss their friends and families pretty badly. The great resignation has come to wrestling.
I do worry about Toni Storm’s well-being. I don’t want her story to end up like Ashley Massaro’s. If leaving WWE is best for her then good, she might find more joy in AEW or iMPACT or maybe an Indy promotion.
This aged wonderfully my friend! She's killing it now. I'm not going to do the usual tribal response of slagging WWE and praising AEE or vice versa, but it's working for her in AEW so I'm happy in that sense.
Oh boo hoo. She was trained, saw what the job entailed, and knew what she was getting into. The woman was offered millions to do that job and she quit. It is what it is, but there's no reason to feel bad for her.
I'm surprised they didn't talk about the story of Jack Brisco quitting the business. According to Gerry, they were in the airport going to the next show and Jack just said "you see that plane heading south? I'm on the next one." And never worked again. As for this story, Storm is one of the best women working today, and ever since she left UK she's either been treated like a geek or not really put in angles at all. And just because she was working Charlotte doesn't mean they cared, it just meant Charlotte needed an angle to work before moving on to the big one leading to Mania. She was completely dominated in the build up, then defeated like nothing. They do that all the time, especially with women. Whether you agree with how she did it or not, the entitled millennial idea is just stupid because they gave examples of wrestlers doing that for decades, often with fewer problems than she had there.
She hasn't wrestled well against Charlotte, generally speaking. Messing up on some key spots. And her last televised match she looked really bad in the ring. I thought it was very odd, because I've watched her since her time in NXT & NXT UK and she's very capable in the ring. I've never seen her wrestle/run the ropes like she did in her last match. She looked very skittish. Something was definitely off with her. IDK, maybe her confidence was shot or something was wrong with her physically. She just didn't look right.
Her Mae Young Tourny and NXT UK runs were something special. When she went to NXT and turned heel, something did seem a little off. The way she moved in the ring looked like she was in pain to me.
I didn’t catch her work in NXT UK, but was aware of the hype around her. She never blew me away with her work in NXT though and I assumed it was just guys simping out, as is often the case. But you may be onto something, as I noticed she seemed slower and more awkward once she got to the main roster. Her last few matches were especially not smooth, like she was having trouble with routine things. The yips maybe, or a suppressed injury, or maybe she just burned out and didn’t really care. I’m sure she’ll be on Jericho’s podcast as soon as he weasels her phone number from someone.
"They had her working against Charlotte, so they must have some plans for her..." Not necessarily Jim, look at all the other women they had competing for the title against Charlotte and Becky and where they are now. Let's see what happens to Liv going forward, and we'll see. Hell, look at Cesaro after he fought Reigns for the title. The WWE can build up stars, whether they do it or fans do it, but then they just don't do anything with them.
He'll dismiss them mainly as a disgruntled worker. Brian will tread lightly and possibly mildly criticize Tony Khan but will also say he "understands why he did what he did"....where as if Vince did the same thing Brian would want a public execution for him.
The other aspect could be this: Toni Storm realized "If the WWE wants to do something with me, I have to wrestle Charlotte Flair or Sasha Banks? Forget it." Charlotte is a known toxic person (look at her history with Nia Jax and Alexa Bliss and any time she would lose a match) and Sasha disappeared for months and threw a tantrum at a WrestleMania because she would lose a title. That plus having to spend weeks traveling, not being used then potentially having to wrestle Charlotte Flair every night would do anyone's head in. I wouldn't be surprised if Charlotte shows up on Raw and takes a cheap shot at Toni Storm next week about 'how she couldn't cut it' or some crap like that.
good for her. she's better than dealing with 8am phone calls to rush to some town you weren't booked for, start and stop booking and whatever general nonsense that they need to deal with daily. get your money somewhere else and be happier. ..also, what a bad ass. love that she just said fuck it.
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This is also a good point they said: they didn't want a developmental program that trained wrestlers, but wanted a developmental program to train actors and entertainers. And that's what they got now
Toni left though because of how toxic the environment is when you're in the main roster. They treat you like shit and you have to just accept it. Until you reach your breaking, like Toni did.
Her situation is so crazy
@@el-youtub3r402 I'm not disputing that because of how ass backwards the WWE is. I'm just saying Jim and Brian made a good point
You aint kidding.
@@el-youtub3r402 You don't know that. You're guessing. I'm not disputing how toxic the main roster atmosphere is but you don't know why she left at all.
The rest of the roster: "Wait, we can do that?!"
13:10
lol exactly Vince has most of them terrified to challenge him or there contract they just keep quite and collect a check and they are so unhappy
@@bernardwilliams4071 Yeah she is bad ass for the way she left.
WHY YES, 👉🏻you👈🏻 CAN. Neville.. THE BASTARD PAC, WALKED OUT.
*Toni:* _"So I took my last pay and went home"_
*Zangief: **_"You got... paid?"_*
Storm is the third NXT female super talent that has been fed to Charlotte in the most ridiculous, non-sensical way. Asuka was the first, then came Rhea and now Toni. At least Toni had enough balls to say “F-You! I am out of here!”
@Thpider-Man apparently neither can someone like Lesnar.
Thats why he left the first time.
Thats why hes part time
I think it's just the random jump in schedule. She popped up on one SmackDown and all she did was pop up on screen with Boogs then travel with no plans to be on the show. She randomly popped back up with no steam and using pie as a feud starter? It's like Kross. This good momentum after his injury comeback and he loses to Hardy, which isn't bad to put up a losing streak against, but for WWE to cut their 10 minutes to 90 seconds, everybody looks bad. Toni looked like a fool as well as Doudrop. They have these build of momentum from the independents to NXT UK to NXT, and to get misplaced intentionally with no clear plans, why call them up? Why get my hopes up when you won't use me?! Elias and Xia Li might be next if this pattern continues.
Yeah but both Asuka and Rhea ended up beating Charlotte later on. I can see the "newbie" getting called up, falling short, and then putting in the work/getting better and getting their win back. However, I agree it's a bad look to call them up only for them to lose right away. Let them win a couple, then lose to Charlotte, and tell the story of them putting in the work with the payoff of beating Charlotte.
@@charlest5604 they didn’t beat her decisively, like Becky did back in 2018 @ “WWE Evolution”.
Imagine in 80s if every wrestler that lost to Hogan quit after ? It's almost like people worked for money and weren't marks for themselves and didn't cry because they weren't the champ .
Without notice, I quit my job of three decades a month ago. Best feeling in the world when you work in a sea of bullshit (retail management in my case), and just walk away, leaving it all in the rear view mirror. Take note, folks. Always have options, never need a company just to get by. Most importantly - save up your money so you can have what's called "F.U. Money."
F.U. Money is 10s of Millions... You won't get there saving. Lol gotta invest some.
I love it when wrestlers (from any promotion) just go “fuck it I don’t need this shit” and go home. Wrestling seems like it can be such a punishing miserable existence for some people and I respect any wrestler that decides they don’t need to put themselves through it all just for the cash.
It is also funny when people tell WWE to fuck cause they do seem like such arseholes to work for!
Exactly love this comment bro especially a company like wwe
I’ll never forget the first time she popped up on the main roster for the survivor series matches and she was literally trending on Twitter and I thought she’s blonde, hot, and can wrestle there’s no way she won’t be your favorite for everybody lol.
@Torrence Kingman Dime a Dozen in Pro Wrestling.
How about too short and super cringy didn't she wear like a top hat and with the rock signs with both hands.
Wait… that was her?!!!
@@torn314 no top hat
@@torn314 You're thinking Gigi Dolin. She wears the top hat
Also, are you absolutely fucked in the head? Toni Storm is one of the top female wrestlers on the planet
This was the inverse of how Nathan Jones left back in 2003 - he decided to quit, did a WWE tour to Australia/New Zealand, and then when everyone left he stayed behind & that was that. If you do this the way Toni Storm did it, you REALLY want out.
Burnout on the road will do that
Australia is locked down hard. When was the last time they went?
@@johnberry2678 That's what the higher-ups in the WWE want us to believe why she left/quit the WWE. To me, it's a combination of a lot of stuff she left, her booking against Charlotte that made her look like a total joke, not being allowed to put on a match she's capable of against Charlotte, Yes, burnout of traveling, Her mental stresses. Toni Storm had the complete package that they wanted in a female performer and to me, they didn't do a great job of supporting her.
@@gunnyo50 The sources are coming directly from Toni’s people
@@johnberry2678 burn out plus shitty booking . The burn out is not worth it if they're burying you and the creative sucks.
This is one of the problems with having your wrestling promotion double as an NYSE stock. Shareholders don't care about the way it's *supposed* to be run, only that it's profitable. Merch sales are more important than a quality production, and that will never change as long as they're publicly traded.
They'll never allow Triple H or another wrestler to take charge and right the ship, because it would look bad in Forbes Magazine or the New York Times. WWE is slowly circling the drain, and the water's getting real low.
Bingo!!! People blame Linda McMahon's political career as the main reason WWE went PG. While that may have been part of it, the main reason in my opinion was when the company went public. They went PG so that corporations would feel better buying advertising on their shows. Which of course makes more money for the shareholders.
She burned out on that schedule? She would have been toast in the 80's and 90's
@Zach Sabbath Did I say it was a bad thing to make money? It only becomes detrimental when making more money sacrifices the product being produced. Which in this case it undoubtedly has.
@@TRivera13 The company went public 2001 or 2002. Also, I want to remind everyone that smackdown was pg the whole time. In 2008, the company went overboard cleaning up their image imho. It was like rated G instead of pg.
@@eiephants no it was 1999
Wwe going PG was a number of things
Beniot incident ,kid friendly sponsors,PC culture etc
The moment Toni got smashed in the face with a Pie is the moment where she said to herself this isn't wrestling I am out of here. So she had a triple threat match with Charlotte and Sasha at a house show then dipped off. That's says it all right there. She just worked with two of the best talents in the entire company not a bad way to go out. You have to understand the mindset of someone who is passionate about Pro wrestling. Most ppl that are passionate about Pro wrestling aren't in WWE. They usually end up leaving. The ones that stick around WWE are the ones that stay for a paycheck. You can tell when talent loses their passion. There's a huge difference between Pro wrestling and entertainment.
Yeah,like otis & gable,otis looks literally like a cookie cutter
well she one day regret leaving. believe that.
@@arturoalmazan5262 I wouldn’t bet on it
@@heavenismydomicile3280 look what happened to Zeina vega . did she go anywhere after being released from wwe ?? of course not. she came back and at least appears on TV. Storm ; was called up to the main roster and she just quit . I wish her the best but in my opinion she won't go far as for her wrestling career goes
@@arturoalmazan5262 we’ll see what the future holds for her
"This generation," as if Stone Cold didn't take his ball and go home. Shawn Michael's didn't piss and moan hourly. Hulk Hogan being a huge diva. Difference now is that the business isn't as good as a whole as it once was, so today's wrestlers are seen as "whiney" instead of "backstage politicking" like the old days.
nah, the huge difference is that now we have social media.
its the environment that is extremely toxic. Even I wouldn't wanna work for WWE. The Rock left for Hollywood, Lesnar got tired and ended his contract, so did Goldberg, even Taker wanted to quit, Bret Hart was screwed over, they ruined Bart Gunn's career over something that wasn't even his fault, Batista got tired and left, the number of ludicrous booking decisions they made for Wyatt/Fiend which made him quit, Jinder nearly quit the second time, only after taking roids got a decent push. Ronda Rousey is a very recent example. Moxley as well. Nash and Hall 20 plus years ago jumped ship. Zack Ryder aka Matt Cardona gave his life and soul, he loved wrestling so much and they released him just like that.
@@Mustafa70116 u did all that typing just to prove everything you said is completely justifiable...the rock opened the door for wrestlers to enter Hollywood after they retire or have a career threatening injury...Vince didnt want brett to leave to wcw with the belt AND did not wanna listen to his boss...ronda rousey loss 1 time in ufc and couldn't handle it mentally came to wwe was super green and damn near was injuring the girls...all the women in the lockeroom did not like ronda because she couldn't wrestle but she was making the most money and getting pushed soo thats why ronda left also she didn't like getting boo'd by the fans...zack Ryder fucking sucks he shouldn't of never been hired...as for taker I've never heard of him wanting to quit...hell he didn't even wanna retire...Austin didn't wanna do the job to brock Lesnar which i wouldn't of either if i was him...nash and hall was greedy mfs who left for 5 million dollar checks who both said they regret leaving wwf for wcw...if i worked for wwe i would leave for aew...wwe has been pg for too long...in the 80s you had hulk hogan eat your vitamins era which ended in 96 for the attitude era...if vince doesn't do that wcw wins the war...we've been in a lil kid pg universe for damn near 15 years its time to get back serious...if mjf goes to wwe 2024 they will destroy his character
Ya forgot to mention rousey getting slumped in 48! seconds by Nunez too she was placed on a pedestal and was knocked off it by Holly Holm and didnt even rematch either… yet wwe poisoned the minds of many stealing “Baddest bit*h on the planet”
Comparing Toni Storm to SCSA, Shawn Michaels and Hulk Hogan is like comparing your local High School football team to the Dallas Cowboys, Pittsburgh Steelers and SF 49ers. “Backstage politicking” makes sense for Charlotte or Sasha or Becky, Toni Storm is 26 years old and hasn’t earned that privilege yet. Of course she can just go home and no one can stop her, she just proved it, but if she quit because she wasn’t happy with her standing in the women’s division then it is “whiney”, and foolish.
Hopefully Toni is ok. If she is burned out it happens or maybe something else is wrong. Who knows? Toni was definitely a top prospect for a long time. Hopefully we see Toni Storm wrestle again.
She not sick just quitter
WHY???
Stop pretending you care
99.99% chance that she just didn't want to waste her skill and talent by being involved in pie fights
@@tonyslicer7399 "a quitter?" So, are you still working at McDonald's? You got one job and you're gonna stick with it for the rest of your life.
It's called "having self respect" you pissant. Did you label Bobby Lashley a quitter when he left Impact to return to WWE? Was Stone Cold labeled a quitter when he left ECW for WWE?
Burnt out from what?
Toni Storm pulled a “Wendi Ritcher” when she got fed up with waiting around the locker room area and getting a pie in the face. These things killed her character and opportunity to be acknowledged as a top wrestler. Plus, Toni was a great wrestler.
Solid not great. Calm down.
@@luisg.407 She is great tho. You're the one that needs to chill lol
Is a great wrestler
She’s 26? Still has alot of time on her side
@A M 80's and 90's All Japan Women is arguably the best in-ring product ever.
And if she shows up at AEW, the IWC will say WWE going out of business (again), if she takes time off and returns to WWE, they gonna call her stupid. Whatever, she been traveling since she was 17 and been with 5 promotions in 7 yrs.
She hasn't take Time off she quit
The way the fued with Charlotte was playing out, Storm was never gonna get her revenge and be elevated as the champion. Getting embarrassed every week in clownish fashion, looking like a chump, losing repeatedly and then you’re relegated to catering? She made the right move. She chose dignity over money. Salute to her 💯
The catering comment was her talking what she was doing prior to her actual debut & current program with Charlotte.
So did punk & he was vilified by the same people who “loved”him so much
I think Charlotte is the spoiled, selfish entitled brat due to her family name. She's not willing to make the wrestlers she works with to be elevated to greatness. I had a feeling that Toni Storm would get buried in that feud. It was a smart move to get out of the organization ASAP. I felt she walked away from the company more than requesting her release. That reminds me of my job where a new employee arrives to work for one day and then they disappear the next day, or they work for a couple of weeks, then one day they go on break and we never see them again instead of putting in a two week notice and leave on good terms.
@@jonathanbynoe4375 mental well being & happiness trumps etiquette any day
Somebody has to be the loser. Did the actor who played Voldemort quit just because he kept jobbing to Harry every movie?
Imagine being on the road 300 days a year just to sit around catering.
You too would be on a 20 hour flight straight back to New Zealand.
It's really sad to see what WWE did to themselves after being a teen in the 90s and seeing it so big! You'd figure they could easily understand why wrestling sucks and just take it back to how it was when it was good.
So you understand, that moron Vince thought the same, took NXT over now, and wants it to be 100% gimmicks. Idiotic Doink the clowns and the like. To Vince that's what sold on TV. The worst part is, Tony Khan became a fan of THAT too. He's trying to do that himself.
Oh, my God, Jim and Brian’s laughing at 7:50 is so hilarious, it got me laughing too. But in all seriousness, I don’t blame Toni Storm for leaving WWE. If the WWE keeps this up at this rate, eventually the majority, or the entirety, of the roster will be doing the same and who could blame them.
"WHAT IS MY LIFE" - Toni Storm getting buried at house shows in WWE Catering, lmaooooo
Its a shame, I liked Toni... I don't understand why they buried her so brutally... Unless thats just what Charlotte's new gimmick is... burying people by throwing potatoes and acting like its their fault.
I would have quit if I were her as well. The booking of her and Charlotte was bullshit. Sure Charlotte wins but storm came off as a jobber.
Now had the wwe, made this a program in which she jobbed this poorly to Charlotte then work her way up to beat Charlotte at Mania; maybe that would be worth it.
She quit due to burnout, they were running her ragged with the traveling schedule
You forgot the part where she tries to do her fiancee's moves and fucks them up.
@Sub if you are against Antifa and BLM I’m with you, I know a lot of people won’t admit it but most women’s wrestling is just awful, and it’s so hard to look believable. I always said if I had my own promotion I might not have women’s wrestling period. Unless they can all work close to or on the same level as a Serena Deeb I’m not even attempting it. That’s just me though, I’m sure that’s not a popular opinion
@@johnberry2678, that’s just speculation. They work 3-4 dates per week. They get plenty of off time and chances to recover. It’s not like a generation ago where they were working 300+ days a year with hardly any down time. Those guys suffered serious burnout and had to recover with an injury angle that kept them off the road for a few weeks every few years.
Most likely, and we’ll have to hear from her, is that it was piss poor booking. She’s a hot, young talent made to look like a jobber.
I’m not sure how much input Vince has these days (he is a known control freak), but my money is on Kevin Dunn being the one pulling the strings. It’s no secret he hates pro wrestling and has been trying to get as far away from anything resembling that.
I can't blame her for being put in a dumb storyline
I feel if she stayed around and the feud with Charlotte ended, Toni would have been floating around backstage eventually leading to a release
Obviously, that's what happens to 95% of the talent
Pretty much. I said she would be released around January if she hadn't left. Good for her.
I had a feeling that WWE don't know what to do with a Toni Storm like so many talent that went from NXT and then got transferred to the main roster. Ironically, it seems like NXT is a developmental brand for stars to go to AEW.
@@jonathanbynoe4375 The only reason NXT is a developing brand for aew is because Vince and his goons are determined on ruining anything new and fresh. They run the NXT talent like shit, because they don't give two shits about them
The lion's face is my reaction whenever wwe does anything these days...
That was actually a really good bugs impression 😭
Not really.
I absolutely love that she left. I live for this. It's about time someone took a stand.
☝🏻 BRODIE LEE & MIXLEY DID.
@@1972BoNeZ666 Moxley let his contract run out and in the meantime let them book Nia to attack him, getting killed week after week by Drew, and did a bunch of Shield reunions. Not the same.
If you live for this. You need to get out of your moms basement more brother.
Most don’t,rip brodie
@@MrJjburgess11 make sure you get out of your mom's basement first. You seem like you have no life yourself, worrying about what makes other people happy.
They repeatedly made Toni look like a chump in the last month or so against Charlotte and they were "blindsided" by this!? Serves them right and good on her for refusing to take their shitty booking and not let them further ruin her credibility or strip every last bit of her dignity away with how badly they buried her, she's way too talented to be misused the way she was on the main roster. At least Triple H knew how to utilize her correctly when he had her in NXT and NXT UK because apparently he's the only one higher up in the company who knows the meaning of the word 'talent' anymore
Have you never heard of a babyface push? Toni shouldn't win against Charlotte until it's on a grand stage like Wrestlemania-- Toni wasn't going to win the title on a random Smackdown Episode lol.
Toni had no patience to wait. She was actually being used in main event matches. LOL she left for New Zealand after a triple threat match with Charlotte and Sasha Banks-- the two most over women in wrestling aside from Becky Lynch. She's an entitled spoiled brat, and she showed that she has no patience to actually put in the effort to get over with fans before a mega push.
Good riddens.
@@teecakes Someone definitely wasn't watching when they made her look completely inferior to Charlotte literally every single week aside from pieing her in the face and pinning her in a tag match. She practically had no chance in the title match itself because of how she'd been booked up to that point and how they booked that match in particular. The crowd definitely wanted her to win, but she wasn't going to because they made her look like a chump as I already said. It's called having dignity and regaining control of your own character because you know you're far too talented to be reduced to their clown show booking
@@Colt2OO2 bro, you’ve watched wrestling before, right? Of course the crowd wanted her to win, she’s the babyface to Charlotte’s monster heel. That’s how this works, but if she beats Charlotte too early then there’s no story to tell, no arc of redemption for our fallen hero, just 2 people having a match. The monster heel crushes our young babyface, humiliates them, crushes their spirit and tries to break them completely. Our babyface gets back up, fights through the obstacles and eventually, on the big stage, defeats the monster heel, and we get to experience the triumph alongside our babyface champion.
You’d prefer a 26 year old unknown with a ridiculous 80’s rock gimmick come in and immediately compete on the same level as the most decorated and (whether you like it or not) the best female wrestler in the business? A feud with Charlotte is good for your career, not bad for it. A feud with Charlotte puts you on tv every week for the length of the program. A feud with Charlotte means the company sees something in you.
She’ll be doing matches with Abadon and Rebel on Dark:Elevation for half the money soon enough.
@@12ozmouse99 Don't get it twisted, I wasn't saying immediately push her to the moon and make her champion right away because then there'd be backlash anyway, but she was pushed very well in NXT and NXT UK before having her obvious talents wasted on the main roster because they didn't really know what they had, so I still don't blame her for leaving. I don't think having her get embarrassed almost every week and then losing a pretty lopsided title match is a sign that they saw anything other than yet another interchangeable wrestler to feed to Charlotte Flair in Toni Storm. Why else do you think Asuka and Rhea Ripley had their auras damaged after facing and losing their titles to her? They don't see any other stars besides Becky, Sasha, Bayley, Bianca and potentially Liv Morgan and all they want is for Charlotte to surpass her father's legacy, which is why regardless of how good she is in the ring, they keep giving her title reigns and burying the rest of the division apart from the names I mentioned.
@@Colt2OO2 Every one of the women you named in your response are undeniably better workers, bigger draws, and have paid more dues than any other women in the company, right? They are on top because they’ve earned their positions there. Charlotte, Becky, Sasha, Bailey, and now Bianca and even Liv as well, have spent years with the company, paid their dues, honed their craft and that’s why they are where they are. You’ve got to put in the time, that’s my whole point. If the company is working you early on with their best talent, it’s because they see potential in you. If they didn’t like her she’d be in a program with Doudrop or Tamina. The pie stuff was dumb as hell, sure but Charlotte endured the same dumb shit. Toni was on the main roster for what, 6 months? 6 months and walking because of booking decisions is ridiculous. Then again her booking may have absolutely nothing to do with her walking away. We’ll have to wait to hear from her on why she left.
Toni isn’t the first person to quit, and WWE have already granted her a release.
She Quit you dummy
"Toni isn't the first person to quit" thanks captain obvious, there is still context behind it that is unique to her experience and different from other people quitting, people quit for different reasons. Shocker eh?
Maybe she just has enough self-respect that she's not going to stand for idiotic pie in the face gimmicks they've been doing with her and Charlotte.
If that was the case, she wouldn't have done that spot. Which BTW, I thought it was in poor taste on WWE's part. Buried her pretty quickly.
Bro, she straight-up re-enacted Corny leaving WCW 😂
Multiple articles have cited that she quit due to burnout on the road, keep in mind while Toni’s been with the company for a few years, she is only just now being used on the road and I’m guessing that the traveling schedule was draining.
Travel and the shitting booking
they barely started going on the road and already she can't hack it? geez lol!
@@tlmreacts she's working with the champion. How is that shitty booking from her perspective?
@@MrJjburgess11 you mustn’t have seen the promos and title match then , didn’t make her look any better
@@cheekclappa69 WWE’s schedule is not easy
I think Jim's right. It's not really in anybody's interest to fight this out in court. If it was Roman Reigns or something then maybe they go to the mat so to speak fighting it. But they probably don't give a crap that much about Toni Storm when they've already released so much talent of her equivalent.
On the flip side it sends the message that if talent doesn't like what's going on, they can just up and quit. Doesn't help the creative process (whatever the hell that is) when you don't know who's going to show up and who's not.
But...Vince has always said the performers were "independent contractors". He's about to find out what that really means.
@@TRivera13 He's always known what that means. The guy had Steve Austin walk out before. He knows. lol
And WWE's creative process is turning their TV shows into clip farms for RUclips and social media. That's seriously it. Shows are written for viral videos. That's why the entire 2 - 3 hour shows don't follow a narrative like they used to.
Yup, quitting makes her seem more in charge of her brand and career.
@@duckmercy11 Yeah, that extremely lucrative Toni Storm brand.
I think AEW will snap her up as soon as they can. Their women's division is a lot better than it was, but they still need a bit more talent, starpower, and someone who's not green. Toni Storm checks all three of those boxes
Neville/Pac went through all this years ago. It'll pan out the same way
AEW
“ slow down cowboy!” I wish Cornett would show up somewhere. Him and Heyman are stick gold
What is “stick gold?”
Can’t say I’m familiar with that term.
@@dr.floridamanphd probably something he heard at work and thought it sounded cool.
Microphone
Good on the mic
Those two and Lambert are Gods on the mic.
The WWE environment is not so conducive for everyone's health.
I hope Tony storm takes care of herself and continue to find success on wrestling business.
Get ready to put together more pro wrestling brands like the NWA and others like them because the WWE keeps self destructing. Paying the price for all those years/decades of success and being on top with massive ratings. It has to come to an end, whether they like it or not. Good luck on your future plans Toni Storm.
The Fed is literally making more $$$ right now than at any other point in it’s existence . The rise of the NWA or GCW or CZW has been heralded for years now by smarky internet fans to no avail. The territories have been dead for 40 years, they’re not coming back. Any fantasies of WWE being done in by all those decisions that you don’t agree with are just that, fantasies. If you consider the billion dollars per year that the Fed pulls in “paying the price”, then you and I have 2 very different understandings of what that phrase means.
That pie in the face storyline with Charlotte and her debut was flirting with dolph Ziggler backstage because vince thinks they are the same. I dont blame her for wanting to get out of there. They intentionally bury you and mess with your life. Vince has booked that way and is an extremely petty human being.
I wouldn't mind getting paid good money to sit in catering 😂🤣
@Yeltnerb 1 IKR
The irony is, if she did nothing, people would say she's taking up space of a hungrier, better wrestler. She leaves, and people complain about her leaving a "cushy" job.
@@philwill0123 only the Indy marks would say that. Actual adults reality that having a job is a good thing.
@@natebaxter9551 while a cushy job is nice, it’s also nice to want to do something. For some it makes you miserable and just want out, seems like that’s what happened here.
@@Kaukauket at some point she's going to realize she made a mistake.
I thought this clip would surely end in a Stephen P. New ad
What I’m really gleaning from this segment is that a person works so hard to get where they want to be through their dreams and then they realize it’s not all cracked up as it was supposed to be.
I have sat by the fountain of prosperity and realized that I had what I wanted all along before I even got there.
The problem is the fans, now wrestlers, that loved WWF in the attitude era have grown up and wanted to be a part of that same energy. Ironically, It's like going back to the popular pool of your childhood, you probably look hot but now the pool is shallow with dirty water.
My only take. Know your worth
And the day after Christmas, she was chasing the 24/7 Championship at a show in Tampa. She also was told last minute (that morning) about the triple threat for the next show in Orlando.
I saw her 5 years ago in Japan, she was AWESOME.
Toni Storm is light years from her outstanding work in Stardom......courtesy of WWE's stick-in-the-mud booking.
She's from NZ, grew up in Australia, and lives in England... so who know where the hell she went.
Brian Last laughs like a corporate Italian businessman
😂😂😂😂
Manipulating Connecticuts subcontractor laws the way they have should be illegal in the first place. And on that note, WRESTLERS ARE HUMAN BEINGS NOT CATTLE
The fake praise is ridiculous. She LITERALLY wrestled Charlotte on Smackdown and they both skipped it. They watched that ep, by the way, because they reviewed Paul Heyman's promo.
Toni Storm has been a wrestler before she was on smackdown you know that right ??? She threw pies and they bearly had a match ofc they skipped it :D :D
It's a chance to paint WWE in a bad light....even though neither of them know any facts about this...it's what these shows have become.
Rhea passed her long ago
Jom don't watch no fucking NXTUK but us such a hater he'll Cape for a fuckdoll that ain't said a word worth a dime!!
What's that - "Vince likes blondes"??? Well doesn't that make you the simp...
@@KClouisville lol
Toni Storm is awesome and WWE should be embarrassed that they made her want to get the hell out of their company.
@michael murillo Basically Horsewomen
@michael murillo I’m pretty sure Bayley is a Horsewoman. I could see how easy that’s forgettable, considering her run pre-2020 on the main roster.
OH MY GOD WHAT IS MY LIFE?
-Toni Storm
"Screw you guys...I'm going home." - Eric Cartman
They changed their catering a few months back due to budget cuts. Essentially gas station sandwiches now according to the article.
OMG!! How barbaric!
@@That90sShow 😂🤣
Young,attractive and blonde just how Vince likes em so I'm surprised they had nothing for her to do. She knew that she wasn't gonna beat Charlotte and most likely after that whole feud she was gonna be forgotten again so why hang around
I always loved the way she dressed. She really invested in her character! Sad to see her go.
Can’t wait till they talk about coked up tony trashing big swole
Wait. What happened?!
I am with Khan on this one
Khan is absolutely right..she was terrible in the ring
they do the same
if she shows up in AEW in the next 2 months, I'm calling bullshit on the "burned out" excuse
AEW schedule isn't as grueling as WWE schedule.
If she goes to AEW she'll just be returning to the same situation she left. AEW's women's division is garbage with it run by Kenny Omega. All he cares about is getting Joshi talent over.
I can't wait for Cornette to talk about Big Swole Tony Khan situation.
@@vonVile yeah because Big Swole is some god tier talents on the level of Toni Storm. At least Jade has the looks.
@@illuminatingdarkness3689 I'm not talking about Big Swole's wrestling. It's about her comments of how AEW is run as a company and Khan's Shitter reaction to them.
Vonville Japanese women aren’t the champions. And Big Swole is not very good.
She has been a pro wrestler since the age of 14.They start training young in the UK.
Is it really shocking news? For the first time in 20 years, they have a viable alternative, and they're not afraid to use it. Vince hasn't been afraid to abuse his position when he's had a monopoly, the wrestlers should give him the same in return. I'm so glad to see they're saying "This isn't good enough for me, goodbye", instead of holding out some false hope that threatening to quit would lead to the situation improving.
You mean the place doing what WWE did and having way too many people on their roster?
Can’t wait to see what Jim has to say about Big Swole & TK on Twitter 😅
Big Swole should be called Big Mouth. Even TK admitted she wasn't good enough. She sucked, no matter the color.
@@musicjnky1982 you do know their is a clip of tk praising her after she beat britt in her ppv match.
@@musicjnky1982 She might suck but she's right. Aryan Elite Wrestling 😂
@@isidrohuicochea2432 she didn't badmouth WWE so she's out of grace.
@@jdeljones sure buddy. It's obvious you didn't read the article.
Happy New Year to everyone 🥂🍻💯
Toni Storm should have been a mega star in WWE. She had every skill.
She original from New Zealand and later moved to Australia when she was child. Now she living in USA with Juice Robinson from Impact wrestling and NJPW.
Thank you! They kept implying she dropped everything and flew all the way to New Zealand.
@@lo1bo2 now you can sleep,who cares
Randolph Defreese ,You cared enough to comment.
I could totally understand why she would quit. Imagine waiting so long to finally get your moment and move up to the main roster only for them to bury you with shitty booking.
But she didn't get buried..he was just wrestling for the smackdown title lol. Stop the nonsense. Since the video didn't tell you as well. She was nxt uk champ for awhile, maybe a whole year.
@@hoax845 Having a title opportunity in WWE is not a major accomplishment for fuck sakes. WWE is the land of "fuck wins and losses, you'll get a title shot and immediately fall back down to the lower mid-card"
@@hoax845 and instead of being in a feud that's based around "who's the best" it was a goddamn storyline of "haha, you look so stupid because I hit you with a pie. That's so funny"
What is WWEs obsession with having women feud over dumb bullshit? Mandy Rose and Nia Jax feuded for literally months, and what did they feud over? A BOTTLE OF FUCKIN WATER! Who the fuck would want to be involved in this dog shit?
@@Excremental_Discharge just say you hate wwe and don't understand the word or concept of #1 contender.
Didn't need 2 posts for you to cry or expose how much you biased. That was amusing though so thanks.
If you think wwe's women's division is bad...please don't run and tell what you think of aews women's division.
@@hoax845 why do you try and help him change his ways, maybe you guys can be good friends 😌
The Honky Tonk Man had the best line about the catering "it's coming out of your check ya fucking mark!"
In her case, a lot of the catering ended up being thrown in her face. Double whammy there
Or other places
No more catering. Budget cuts!
When did he say this lol?
@@patrickboian8545 Karl Anderson and Luke Gallows told the story on Jericho's podcast, saying he said it at the catering during Wrestlemania week one year.
Typically, the non-compete clause is a set amount of time AFTER they stop paying you, regardless of reason. You aren't allowed to write a contract that effectively retires a person from a profession. And anything left vague, will be read to the benefit of the contractor, not the company. I bet there are a few headliners that would quietly help fund her case just so that they have the precedent set.
Most wrestlers I talk to say that catering is one of the best things about the WWE!
New slogan: WWE - Come for the abuse, stay for the catering!
toni if you read this: take that contract to a labor attorney. Most "IC" contracts are sheer exploitation and the law is beginning to recognize that.
Stars walking out like that should be a sign for WWE to look in the mirror and ask “what did we do wrong” Problem is, WWE never sees themselves to be at fault. They’re also big enough in the business to not care. They shrug it off and keep going, keep exploiting
nothing wrong with it... she expected the world right away and didn’t get it. Good riddance.
I love how Jim defends catering lmao he knows good food
And it shows. 😆
"She's a modern day Bruiser Brody."
*Gail Kim has entered the chat.
I don't blame her. She is only 26 years old, she has years of time left on her career. WWE will never use her correctly nor will they give her a chance. Just because she had a program with Charlotte doesn't mean they are giving her a chance because they seem to just use her to put over Flair even more. She is in her prime. She can go anywhere and work in any company.
bad take
@@showgamez5257 Cope.
@@eastwaters4082 no need
"Didn’t even get a best of luck in your future endeavors. I mean, if you’re gonna let me go at least get your catchphrase right?" - John Morrison
She pulled a Jack Brisco!
I clicked on the title so fast when I saw Bugs Bunny and Jim in the title.
I’m going to reserve judgment until Toni herself makes a statement. I don’t care to delve into the speculation. The way she left sounds a bit unprofessional but I can sympathize with mental burnout. She’s only 26, who knows in 3 years she could be back. With a new hold
it does sound a tad unprofessional but honestly looking at where she works at WWE management is notorious for being extremely unprofessional, look at every wrestle that left and they all say the same thing its toxic unprofessional and if you're not part of the inner circle and licking their A Hole and drinking their kool aid they aint gonna listen to you. . Some times telling management to F off im Done is the only way.
Wwe is becoming a wasteland they actually might have to do a year of Roman vs Brock like that year or two of cena vs orton back in the day
This story is crazy, I did not see that coming. I initially thought it was, "fake news"😅. That said, the fact that more, and more people lose their passion for wrestling, after working for WWE, gives people like Punk, and others, who wanted out of this machine, more credence🤷🏿♂️
You can tell the "fuck it I'm done" tickled Jim.
WWE has to be very careful with the international wrestlers they have on the roster. They've already left everything they know to work there. I'm sure they miss their friends and families pretty badly.
The great resignation has come to wrestling.
I do worry about Toni Storm’s well-being. I don’t want her story to end up like Ashley Massaro’s. If leaving WWE is best for her then good, she might find more joy in AEW or iMPACT or maybe an Indy promotion.
This aged wonderfully my friend! She's killing it now.
I'm not going to do the usual tribal response of slagging WWE and praising AEE or vice versa, but it's working for her in AEW so I'm happy in that sense.
Everyone that wants to cry "poor Toni" for the Charlotte angle, then you've never watched Alexa Bliss' "this is your life, Bayley."
Oh boo hoo. She was trained, saw what the job entailed, and knew what she was getting into. The woman was offered millions to do that job and she quit. It is what it is, but there's no reason to feel bad for her.
Exactly they messed over Alexa Tony your next SMH
@@amodernphoenix "Offered millions"?
Some commenters here really live on another planet in an alternate universe.
I'm surprised they didn't talk about the story of Jack Brisco quitting the business. According to Gerry, they were in the airport going to the next show and Jack just said "you see that plane heading south? I'm on the next one." And never worked again.
As for this story, Storm is one of the best women working today, and ever since she left UK she's either been treated like a geek or not really put in angles at all. And just because she was working Charlotte doesn't mean they cared, it just meant Charlotte needed an angle to work before moving on to the big one leading to Mania. She was completely dominated in the build up, then defeated like nothing. They do that all the time, especially with women.
Whether you agree with how she did it or not, the entitled millennial idea is just stupid because they gave examples of wrestlers doing that for decades, often with fewer problems than she had there.
She hasn't wrestled well against Charlotte, generally speaking. Messing up on some key spots. And her last televised match she looked really bad in the ring. I thought it was very odd, because I've watched her since her time in NXT & NXT UK and she's very capable in the ring. I've never seen her wrestle/run the ropes like she did in her last match. She looked very skittish. Something was definitely off with her. IDK, maybe her confidence was shot or something was wrong with her physically. She just didn't look right.
Her Mae Young Tourny and NXT UK runs were something special. When she went to NXT and turned heel, something did seem a little off. The way she moved in the ring looked like she was in pain to me.
I didn’t catch her work in NXT UK, but was aware of the hype around her. She never blew me away with her work in NXT though and I assumed it was just guys simping out, as is often the case. But you may be onto something, as I noticed she seemed slower and more awkward once she got to the main roster. Her last few matches were especially not smooth, like she was having trouble with routine things. The yips maybe, or a suppressed injury, or maybe she just burned out and didn’t really care. I’m sure she’ll be on Jericho’s podcast as soon as he weasels her phone number from someone.
I love to figure out when the Travis artwork makes sense lol
to go from doing more serious stuff in NXT to throwing pies in peoples faces like it’s the 2011 divas era..i can see why she’d have enough
She quit due to burnout not booking. Toni wasn’t used to the grueling traveling schedule
"Serious stuff in NXT"
DO YOU GUYS EVEN HEAR YOURSELVES???
Marys just got covered in black goo while in her wedding dress.... BUT SURE.... that's like becoming WWE champion compared to a pie in the face!!!
Awesome! I Love Hearing Jim's Point Of View
Orange Cassidy would be a great fit for catering in the WWE
WWE fans need signs that say, “Oh my gosh, what is my life?” now
Jim called Tony a business man lol guy is a child with a big budget
He's a immature businessman.
@@youngbreezy5859 He’s a millennial WTF you expect? 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
@Yeltnerb 1 Let me guess? You're a bottle baby?
If you're referring to this clip, he said Nick Khan not Tony.
It was on Tuesday 12/28/21 I was there they worked a Triple Threat and then the next day the news broke 😳🤷🏽♂️
"They had her working against Charlotte, so they must have some plans for her..."
Not necessarily Jim, look at all the other women they had competing for the title against Charlotte and Becky and where they are now. Let's see what happens to Liv going forward, and we'll see. Hell, look at Cesaro after he fought Reigns for the title. The WWE can build up stars, whether they do it or fans do it, but then they just don't do anything with them.
I think there is a lot more stuff going on then meets the eye with Toni strom.
Bugs bunny to Earth I have prepared a statement GET ME OUT OF HERE!!!!
omg this thumbnail killed me lmaaaooooooo
On what planet is this is a big story,
"Fuck WWE" planet
Gail kim and Jeff Hardy slipped out of a match and to end their run
I’m gonna miss those cakes man
I see Travis didn't draw her with pie on her face. Can't wait to hear Cornette on Big Swole comments.
He'll dismiss them mainly as a disgruntled worker. Brian will tread lightly and possibly mildly criticize Tony Khan but will also say he "understands why he did what he did"....where as if Vince did the same thing Brian would want a public execution for him.
The other aspect could be this: Toni Storm realized "If the WWE wants to do something with me, I have to wrestle Charlotte Flair or Sasha Banks? Forget it." Charlotte is a known toxic person (look at her history with Nia Jax and Alexa Bliss and any time she would lose a match) and Sasha disappeared for months and threw a tantrum at a WrestleMania because she would lose a title. That plus having to spend weeks traveling, not being used then potentially having to wrestle Charlotte Flair every night would do anyone's head in. I wouldn't be surprised if Charlotte shows up on Raw and takes a cheap shot at Toni Storm next week about 'how she couldn't cut it' or some crap like that.
There's nothing supporting that.
Toni is wearing a 👕 that says, "Thank you. Fuck you. Goodbye."
Charlotte Hearst Helmsley out here just burying everyone now lmfao. I wonder what'll happen to Shotzi now.
Who?
@Minorsmile09 nice pun !!!
CHH lmao thats a good one
You don’t know anything about wrestling
good for her. she's better than dealing with 8am phone calls to rush to some town you weren't booked for, start and stop booking and whatever general nonsense that they need to deal with daily. get your money somewhere else and be happier.
..also, what a bad ass. love that she just said fuck it.
Yeah toni storm can fuck it alright 👍👍👍👍