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It's nothing like heroin withdrawal. I can vouch for this therapy. I had one unpleasant night where I didn't sleep. The mental clarity is so wonderful. I'm now completely pharma free. God bless you all on your journey 🙏💗
If this isn’t too personal, would you mind sharing how long you were on suboxone? You’re experience is incredible & the only time I’ve ever come across a… “testimony” of this nature. I’m Very happy for you! I wish we could ALL be this fortunate.
I would really argue against it not being like heroin withdrawal. I’m really glad your personal experience was not bad but coming off suboxone cold turkey can be hell and last a lot longer than withdrawl from other opiates
Suboxone and Metadone In my case I have left them both and for me it is stronger than heroin or fentanyl, for withdraw 😢 It lasts weeks almost 1 month and a half
Suboxone saved my life! I don’t let others opinions sway me. A small dose daily keeps my opiate cravings away, drug seeking is non existent, and my is anxiety no longer plaques me. I am a productive member of society, and am no longer a slave to short acting opiates. Thanks Doc! 🌺
Exactly Roberta! Regardless of the stigma of this medication, this med works if given the chance! I will not be embarrassed being on this med. It has helped me & improved relationships that my drug use destroyed. I would rather take this med then chase the drug 24 7.
When the dr says that failure with suboxone can come with the patient doing “self management” he is right. My son was on suboxone after a 60 day treatment program and was doing well. But then he started trying to stop taking it for 4 days or whatever and try and use again. I begged him to not Do that and take it as directed and not think about eventually getting off. I then suggested an excellent you tube video (look up: after 11 years in recovery a suboxone trial patient speaks out)from a man who was one of the first trial patients. It’s an excellent video. Unfortunately, my son did not make it BUT anyone who is still using and sees this, I hope the video can give you some hope and direction. Don’t make your parents live my families life which is full of pain
So sorry for your loss 😥 u lost my partner a year ago yesterday to the disease we have a 14yr old daughter I'm 15mnths in recovery from a 23 yr heroin addiction I need to do this for me my mum and my kids hope you have a good Xmas love from Scotland Jx ✌️❤️🙏🏴
@@Discovering_Nicole1 I would love too, but my husband is a little reticent about being so vocal. So I need to respect his opinion. Although, I do know there are a lot of mothers who are willing to talk. For instance: the black poster project on the east coast. I’m sure you could google to get the woman’s name who started it. I know there has been many news articles on it. Also, she may have some contacts of some mothers who would like to do an interview. Also, maybe contact humanizing addiction (Facebook page). This mother lost her daughter and started the page and she also has a lot of contacts. I’ve watched your channel and you are doing great work and helping others. This is a monster of a problem and I wish I had some answers💜
@@jilliancooper4756 I’m so sorry about your partner. We are losing too many good people. But, I’m glad you are 15 months in recovery. That is fantastic! Please keep it going. Just remember if anything happened to you, your loved ones suffer the most. So all the more reason to hang in there and stay the course❤️Merry Christmas
I'm glad to cover this topic. There is still so much misinformation about this type of medication and that misinformation leads to stigma. Great video!
God does provide & today he helped me find you. Day one & counting. Thank you for the motivation to start. Pray for me please. Ill be watching & listening.
This is a very interesting video dr B. This is helping me to don't fail in my suboxone mat. It is always a pleasure and very instructive information about my recovery from drugs addiction. Thank you so much!
Thank you Dr B. You're a moral and ethical man. Not long ago, well, maybe a year or two back I saw a doc saying he gave his patients no more than 6 months to start and stop the use of suboxone. I was shocked. He said it was usually 2 to 3 months and he started weaning right away. I wanted to scream at my computer and ask WHY? Putting people in jail for this disease is exactly like putting people in jail for needing a wheel chair because of cancer or something. It is morally repugnant to me, and should be to others as well. The government/ state worries me most of the 3 categories you mentioned. Education will usually help the individual and provider, but changing laws and politicians mindset is like trying to solve Chinese math by a child. It's almost impossible, but I still have hope. Again, thank you for what you do. Sorry I haven't commented lately. I was in the hospital in ICU for 4 days for pneumonia and heart issues, and I'm still recovering from the later as well as assisting my mother who had a stroke. Good news is that she's doing great and so am I. God speed kind sir.
Hoosier, are you ok? Thankyou for always being here. If you need support or just want to chat, Nicole is an amazing listener & answers my 1800-779-4715. Try to rest & get better soon.
As someone in recovery and that works in recovery at a detox/inpatient treatment center I agree with most of what your saying, other than detoxing from Suboxone or methadone is consistently longer and harder without question the toughest detoxing I see on a regular basis
I cant speak for methadone but bup has been an easy taper the few times I do it. Wont sleep well for a while but it's better than vomiting, diarrhea, cold sweats, pain, etc.
I'm 18 in recovery have a job baby is due may 7th. I had been using meth heroin pills pretty much all drugs since 13 started getting sober went to a suboxone clinic I pass every drug test.
Great video. Reminded me of when I first started treatment on suboxone. I went to a pain clinic and not a treatment center. I could tell that the office employee didn't like me at the pain clinic or the nurse practitioner. But not knowing where to go I just google suboxone doctors in my area and that where I went. They started me on 16mg then after 4 months they wanted me to start cutting back on my dosage to 8mg. Then after one month on 8mg they wanted me to go to 4mg. Luckily for me I needed to reschedule an appointment and the office manager wouldn't allow me to reschedule even though my appointment was still 2 weeks away. I ended up finding a treatment center with a doctor that specializes in addiction. His office made sure to work me in for an appointment. My new doctor switched me to subutex and helped me with getting the correct treatment. But most important I didn't feel ashamed going into his office every month. He's since retired and I'm seeing a new doctor. But it's definitely important to go to a doctor or treatment center that will help and not somewhere that isn't meant for addiction treatment. Thanks again for these videos Doctor!
Dr. B Thank you so much for this content. It is very well presented. Unbiased, honest and informative. Within 30 minutes of finding your channel, I have been inspired with hope, better understanding, and now see where I can correct my current M.A.T. treatment with buprenorphine. I will be sending this buprenorphine playlist to my fiancé and family members. Thanks again!! gratefully, Samuel L.
Hi dr b I was on sub. For 3 years taking total of 6 mil a day it took me 20 days just to be able to sleep it was the worst. I just wish there were more doc educated enough to give sound advice like you
Never heard a clinician speak about this so thoroughly, especially the institutional issues surrounding treatment. Need more people with this understanding in these positions.
I think physicians generally define addiction to a drug as _having a compulsion to repeatedly take the drug even though it is doing more harm than good._ Whether a drug is being, on balance, harmful, or helpful, may be obvious, or it may be subject to argument. In some ways a physician is likely to have more knowledge and experience, about where to look for signs of harm, than their patient may have. For example, say her patient takes omeprazole. Then, by arranging for a blood test, a physician may notice that a patient may be deficient in vitamin B12, before the patient notices any effects from this deficiency. If the patient has been able to get his acid reflux under control by changing his diet, he may be doing more harm than good, by continuing to take omeprazole. If the physician recommends that the patient stop taking omeprazole, and for some reason the patient continues taking it, according to the definition of _addiction_ that I mentioned above, this patient would be addicted to omeprazole. He would be an omeprazole addict. Here the conclusion is obvious. But in other situations, whether a drug is harmful or helpful, may not be so obvious. And, like any scientifically educated professional person, a physician may sometimes confuse her cultural ideas of harm, with scientific ideas, and imagine that her cultural ideas, or claim that her cultural ideas, are scientifically verifiable ideas. For example let's say the physician is Roman Catholic, and believes what she hears from the Pope. When the Pope says using condoms to prevent pregnancy is spiritually harmful. the physician may find all kinds of scientific rationale for not using condoms. You can suffer anaphylactic shock from a latex allergy and die. Condoms, if you neglect to remove them from your vagina, will change your vaginal ecosystem and may result in vaginal infections. When enough condoms are flushed down the toilet it can stress municipal sewer systems. These are the scientifically factual reasons, although they don't seem to me, at least, to be very convincing reasons. But physicians have not always limited their "scientific" reasons to ones that have any validity whatsoever. In hindsight, efforts at cultural value salesmanship, seem easy to distinguish from science. But what about the nonsense that physicians say today? Up until around 1950 textbooks used to support some of the cultural values of the day, by teaching medical students that masturbation could cause diabetes. Physicians performed clitorodectomies to prevent women from masturbating. Don't take my word for it. Look it up. When one substitutes buprenorphine for diacetyl morphine, one is certainly substituting one drug for another. But whether one is substituting one addiction for another, is a different question. Before I would come to any conclusion, one way or another, or even just a tentative opinion, I would want to learn much more about both drugs. Just for starters: how toxic is each drug? How effective is each drug at relieving pain, or depression? What are the safe dosage ranges for each drug? What about the various effects of the drugs. Relative amount of sleepiness? Ability to use dangerous equipment while on the drug? Cost - how much money is this going to cost me? I tend to think that most people who jump to the conclusion that the substitution is substituting one addiction for another, haven't asked many of the questions I've asked, much less found many answers.
I wish that You were in S.E. Pennsylvania.....or closer. Thank You for Your kindness, knowledge and compassion. It's tough to find a Doctor like You. Hopeful in Pennsylvania.
Watching your videos have saved my life . I always thought suboxone was just also a bad thing because at aa and many people think any daily medication is bad. You showed me it will help Me live a good life . You saved me, so on behalf of me my mom my dad my family, friends and my future children . Thank you so Much . My words can’t describe how much you helped me thank you for putting these videos out . I know there are others out there who will watch this and agree 🥹🥹❤️
Suboxone saved my life. I was at my lowest taking oxy 30s percs, hydrocodone anything I could find just to function and I finally hit my rock bottom and me and my buddy found this doctor who specialized in addiction and so we went. I took the last of my pills the day before and started the medication first thing in the morning when my withdrawals started and it worked. I actually felt normal with a little bit of energy which eventually that went away but needless to say it work. I was on 8 mg a day and did taper over a few yrs to about 2 msg a day and it’s been almost 6 yrs since my last pill. Unfortunately my buddy didn’t last but about 6 months till he relapsed but it works for me. I’ve gone cold turkey several times and managed to stay clean for a few months problem was the cravings were still there. It might not be for everyone but I’m so thankful I found that dr. because had I stayed an addict I probably would be addicted to those fake percs with the fentanyl in them or be dead. There everywhere now. It’s scary
@@kathytracy7952stay with it, the pain will pass every day you will feel a little better. Pray and most importantly find a support system.. I’m Robert’s wife we battled this addiction together. Processing our pain being open about our addiction and prayer got us through this . God loves you he hasn’t left and when you come out the other side of this you will be stronger. I feel your pain and am tearing up at the very thought of what your going through. It’s hard but not impossible to beat. I will keep you in my prayers stay strong I’m fighting with you
@@kathytracy7952 What also helped me and still does is watching Soft White Underbelly videos. Stick with it and you’ll start feeling better. Addiction is so powerful and people that have never experienced opiate withdrawal simply think we can just stop. The pain of wd kept me on oxys so long but I knew one day it was gonna kill me if I didn’t stop. Hang in there.
@@DrBAddictionRecovery I at about 3 weeks and I haven't felt this good since 9th grade when I started drinking. I wish I would have done this 20 years ago but I just couldn't see any light. I have zero cravings, am able to sleep relatively good, eating isn't an issue anymore. The hardest thing is filling in all the time of my day so I mostly spend it on bettering myself. I do a lot of walking and even started working out. Thank you for your videos and tour support Dr. B!!! I'll keep you posted.
I jumped from methadone to suboxone......🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮. Tapered from 130 to 70mg and switched. It was hell but years later sSuboxone is the only med I still take. I must say, compared to dope and methadone (both of which I've detoxed form repeatedly), also many benzos, I am not super intimidated at suboxone weaning. Still......I miss shooting dope every minute of every day and it's been years since I touched it (purely because it wouldn't work anyway).
I absolutely love your approach to medicine and how you articulate your points of view! What is your opinion on testosterone replacement for an individual that has been on 40 mg of methadone for 10 plus years? In South Carolina there is a extreme stigma surrounding methadone. I'm not sure how doctors in general view prescribing testosterone to methadone patients. Assuming the patient has demonstrated a need for the medication. I just fear they may be reluctant.
Doctor B I want to start a 5 dqy or up to 7 days detox using subutex as I’ve cut down my usage of heroin intake to less the 0.5grm per day. I’m aiming to complete this short detox in order to begin the Naltrexone treatment which works for me so better than long term MAT treatment. Please can you advise me on what dosage I should use for day one once mild withdrawal symptoms have occurred and the dose that will eliminate the withdrawal symptoms from day one. Then what dosage should I be tapping down daily to be able to begin Naltrexone treatment. After stopping subutex on dqy five then how many days after can I start taking the naltrexone. I have screen test to check if opiates are clear from my body Thanks
I’m so ready to be off subs. I was on methadone manage for ten years. I got addicted to benzos then started using heroin again. I’m on subs now. They make me feel like crap. I thought more would be better it made me feel worse. Now I’m only on 6 milligrams and I’m tapering
I have been on it for 13yrs started with 120 month now down to 54 a month...8mg each.....am I stuck on this for life? Is it hard to get off of?? I have never failed or relapsed being on it.
If you come off it very slowly, it’s not hard to come off. I’m very very sensitive to drugs and if I got past the 26 hr mark without it I get so sick. But I went from 8mg down to 6mg then down to 5.6mg then 0.4 down etc to 5.2mg all they way down to 0.4. In the U.K. we have 8mg, 2mgs and 0.4microgram pills. So I dropped 0.4 every 2 weeks with my drs help. I did end up relapsing but not because of the taper because of pain. I’d recently got an unknown stomach problem that left me crying in pain so I ended up using. I’m back on 8mg now but ready to go back down soon. Talk to your dr! See if you can go down 0.4 micro grams because then you don’t even notice it! Good luck. Take to your addiction dr!
I've been on Suboxone for almost 8 yrs. I slowly tapered myself down & got off of it for 2 months. I went back on it cuz for me, the Post Acute Withdrawals as far as 0 energy got me discouraged. I went back on it & I'm currently starting to taper again. Adter being on it for so long, its definitely not going to be easy. I now know what I'm up against & have to push threw the 0 energy. I will tell you tho, just being off of it for 2 weeks I genuinely laughed for the first time in years! It felt great! Its like I felt a fog lift off of me & was clearer. Good luck on your journey! It can be done! Just remember, we've been on this med for A LONG TIME so its not going to be a walk in the park. I know I don't want to be on this med forever so I'm starting over to try again to come off 😁 good luck!!
It works but I been on it to long i been on it for 11 years now i was take 2mg 3 times a day but I messed up with everything going on now now I am bach using i am look for a rehab to go to in upstate ny the problem is I have no insurance and state run ones are no good
hello Dr.B. what does the research show a good taper guideline for someone on 2mg/ day that's ready to get off? started at 4mg/day year and a half a go. was on prescribed opiates 6 years.
I do have a question..DR. I am a patient that had 2 back fusion surgeries 1 neck fusion surgery. I was on 15 MG of oxycodins every 6 hrs.it said 8 hrs but my pain was level was an 8 too 10 of pain .now i took myself to the dr.and ask Dr. Please I want to get off pain meds..but I'm still in pain..I'm on Suboxons 8 MG..I do break mines in half .. 1 whole 8 MG..does help me with my pain and withdrawals .throu out the day.my pain level is still there but not always through out the day ..like how I was on pain medication. I'm so thankful for this medication. It helps my pain and I'm not always taking a pill every 6 hrs ..1 question..can u work TAKING THIS MEDICATION. I think I can do something not too much on my back for part-time work maybe. I do b in pain but I can handle for a couple hrs...my question can I work under this medication?
Any tips for a second-world country in Europe, Poland exactly on how to get prescribed buprenorphine? Here you have to go to 3 detoxes before they consider giving you damn methadone, and they are treating heroin addictions with tramadol there, they have no idea what they are doing and ive seen some of the saddest shit in my life there, 20 different category units not even guarded with a fence, my problem is with just very long codeine intake and i dont want to go back to this detox, heroin was there on my 3rd day and meth on like 8th, i almost asked for morphine but luckily i didnt do it, its just fucking depressing and demoralizing…..
Dr. B, I’ve been taking 4 mg of Suboxone for at least 10 years. I realize it’s a small dose, but I sometimes wonder if it affects my physically or emotionally, but it’s been so long, I may not notice any of these changes, if any. Thanks
I figure you can’t answer these but this has been my issues with Suboxone: Can Suboxone have an effect on sleep to the point of waking up with shortness of breath? I can’t stand waking up and not being able to breathe for 5-30 minutes it’s after I wake from sleep but has been problematic for several months is there a way to test blood ph and can Suboxone affect that? Would it be worth trying to get off the Suboxone and going to methadone?
How could someone prescribed a normal dose EVENTUALLY not feel sick at hour 23? Feeling sick at hour 23 is an inevitability. I was an "under dosed" patient at 2mg. Now im on 10 and every day there is discomfort. No avoiding it.
Also my general disposition towards everyone around me wasn't too great on 2mg. This was a problem that occured the second half of the day. I dont have that problem so much on 10mg. But waking up freezing cold is just part of the 24hr dosing lifestyle.
Where do I find a caring doctor like you I failed on suboxone the doctor didn’t care about me only money when asked too many questions I was kicked off the program and was given only 2 weeks supply to taper I was in agony from 24mg daily to 0mg in 2 weeks I have been off for 3months I felt so consistently awful that I finally relapsed I’m lost and I don’t know what to do
Please narrow your presentation. It puts me to sleep.......zzzzz! Narrow down what you want to say. I get lost with one "list" or digression after another. This is confusing to a non-druggie. Don't flood me with "information" and digress to other things. By the time you are done I've forgotten what you were talking about!
Dr. B. I love what you do. I have a different question: Have you ever took any opioid for pain or whatever else? If so, which ones and how did you feel when you took them? I ask because some people absolutely hate how they make them feel, and the other ones (which is basically everyone here, including myself ) love the ways it makes them feel. Im a curious mind and just thought it might connect us even more. Obviously you don't have to answer lol. I appreciate your work
Thank you also for normalizing a life on suboxone , you showed me it’s not a bad thing it’s actually perfect for ME. Thank you forever for your videos 🥹
Good morning Dr B love your content I'm on 1.2mg of bup from 16mg 20mnths ago this is the 1st time in 23yrs I've been offered it. I do loads of other stuff CBT meditation I have great aftercare support n I now work in addiction as a volunteer because I'm still on meds u can't get a paid job so want off the rest after the new year I've been dropping 200mg a time what's your advice love from Scotland Jx ✌️❤️🙏🏴
My dr is increasing the price to see the dr again (for the 3rd or 4th time in the passed 5 years or so).. now it's going to run $300 a month just to see the dr. Pretty nuts. They said it was due to more overhead because they moved into a new building.
@@DrBAddictionRecovery 40 min north of Cincinnati, OH. City called West Chester. Been on bup for 10-12 years. It's always been about $200-$250 just to talk to the dr for 2 minutes and get my script written. Every year or so now though it seems there's been a $25 increase.
@@DrBAddictionRecovery good place, good staff. First one I went to that I didn't have to sit in the waiting room for 3 to 4 hours before seeing the Dr. I figured those prices were standard tho. I have heard rumors about some ppl getting their insurance to cover the dr visit which was unheard of years ago
Hey doc ty so much for answering so many of ?s with your videos. My dr I complained opioids weren’t helping with pain. I’ve been on opioids like 15 Yrs. So she put me on 2 /4mg, a day I took first dose I was hi as a kit, So I thought maybe my body needed to get used to it. I took the other 4 mg Again I was high out of my mind and felt awful. But my pain felt better than it’s ever felt in many years. So next day I split 4mg in 1/2. Did 1/2 in mrng and half afternoon still felt hi on only 4mg. So tommorow going to cut it in 3 ways. But from this video you say I should take it as directed I do not like to feel stoned. I got to be about my business I run a business.
Take less. 4mg is a heavy dose for people that took opioids for pain reduction and aren‘t used to giant abuse doses like addicts are taking. Maybe 2mg is enough for you. Ask your doctor. You can get high on suboxone and its extremely potent.
“Detox” is a very small component of addressing addiction, which is a complex physical/mental/social disease. People who think that a 7/10/30/60 day “program” will turn you around are deluded. Taking on addiction is perhaps harder than getting a super morbidly obese person down to 120 pounds and having them staying there for the rest of their life. And no, buprenorphine is not the equivalent of a gastric bypass.
can any kind hearted soul help me with my query please. I took Buprenorphine 8mg first time for my h withdrawal and it was so so horrible I can't explain.. it was normal withdrawal X10 .. dose it normal?I am so disappointed that first time I tried to get my life back and .... I have appointments tomorrow... pls 🙏
@@DrBAddictionRecovery Thank you so much for such great work you doing. Your videos are so informative and helped me and others in so many ways specially looking at this subject of medication assisted treatment process .. I had very wrong and different views about this. I am from UK and trying to get off H. I tried last week first time Buprenorphine and it was the most painful thing I can remember. I think I took it earlier than I should have. How long should I wait and how should I feel after taking first dose? Will it be same as normal withdrawal symptoms? Please help me with this... I am so afraid
Love your videos dr b. Im on 4 mg of suboxone and recently upped my dose to 6 but had to go back to 4 as i felt increased anxiety. Have you ever had experience with that. I feel i could be getting more relief on a higher dose but cant seem to tolerate it.
Hey exactly the same thing happened to me was on 6 but went down to 4 was making me feel a little strange at times. Dunno think I need more but did save my life
Did it! A week out, No cravings, no desire at all. (I know I want to stay on my guard, but...). Trigger for me when it stopped helping with any level of pain relief. Personified, like some "chick"...Don't want me anymore? OK then f**k YOU. Then I don't want you! Had to put a chip on my shoulder. I tapered down, mega vitamin C & some E & D3, quit cold. In a few days started micro-dosing box, like 6 Pc's per strip once a day. Withdraws not as bad as I had seen before, in a week Done. No thought of going back to that nasty shit. Nope, it didn't want ME anymore? OK then I don't want YOU. Not any Need, it was a Want. And I no longer want. Good luck to you out there.
so where do i fit? i stopped snorting fenty on 1/3 then 24 hrs later saw my doc and started suboxone induction. i was given 4 mg and sent home. an hour later i felt no better or worse so i was told take another 4 mg. i immediately went into precipitated wd. i lost all control of my body as muscles flaied wildly then locked up and then i collapsed with literally sweat pouring out of every pore. doc instructed to take another 4 mg tab before bed and that was my day 1. day 2 doc told me to take 8mg 2x a day. i followed this too and al the while was taking the other rx's such as clonodine, trazadone, etc etc. but day 2 again i took suboxone as rxd and had zero relief from wd's. day 3 i was told to take 12mg 2x a day. so for 3 days now i been taking 12mg 2 x a day and have yet to rescive any benefot from suboxone whatso ever. i actually thought i was feeling better on day 4, but woke on day 5 now and regressed. again i have chills and am sweating like crazy. so im curious where you would place the blame here???? but bottom line is i did exactly as instructed and in agony. 6 days into induction and i have zero relief from suboxone butdef the comfort meds have helped
One more thing….. I can give my wife a kiss in the morning with morning breath!! I’m not yelling and screaming because I ran out of Oxycodone. It’s a crazy disease. We love our wives and family and life is to short to think about anything else. Good luck my friends.
I’m sorry to say it but you can tell who wants a good life and success even though we are hooked on a substance. Always chase excellence, and your wife or husband .. We get all carved up inside like the days are carved in stone. Visit your family, take your wife out for dinner and a walk…and… lol. Life is good on Suboxone. Better than screaming at my wife in the morning because I’m out of Oxycodone. I really feel our significant others suffer greatly because of our addiction. I love my wife and desire her more every day. There was a time when I felt nothing. I didn’t want my wife flirting with me. She cried and thought something is wrong. It hurt so much because my. Wife is my life, my oxygen. I told her and she’s never left my side since. I can’t imagine my life without her. Love you Kelly.
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It's nothing like heroin withdrawal. I can vouch for this therapy. I had one unpleasant night where I didn't sleep. The mental clarity is so wonderful. I'm now completely pharma free. God bless you all on your journey 🙏💗
You're lucky you only had one.
Did you taper completely off without a lot of withdrawal?
If this isn’t too personal, would you mind sharing how long you were on suboxone? You’re experience is incredible & the only time I’ve ever come across a… “testimony” of this nature. I’m Very happy for you! I wish we could ALL be this fortunate.
I would really argue against it not being like heroin withdrawal. I’m really glad your personal experience was not bad but coming off suboxone cold turkey can be hell and last a lot longer than withdrawl from other opiates
Suboxone and Metadone In my case I have left them both and for me it is stronger than heroin or fentanyl, for withdraw 😢 It lasts weeks almost 1 month and a half
Suboxone saved my life! I don’t let others opinions sway me. A small dose daily keeps my opiate cravings away, drug seeking is non existent, and my is anxiety no longer plaques me. I am a productive member of society, and am no longer a slave to short acting opiates. Thanks Doc! 🌺
This makes me so happy to hear. That is exactly how you have to be! Do not let anyone discount your recovery.
Hey Roberta, I hope all is well, haven't seen you around 4 eva! I know "The know the anxiety" struggle" is real!! Real tlk
@rockin Roberta I’m so happy to hear your success story! Thank you for sharing.
Exactly Roberta! Regardless of the stigma of this medication, this med works if given the chance! I will not be embarrassed being on this med. It has helped me & improved relationships that my drug use destroyed. I would rather take this med then chase the drug 24 7.
Dosent work for everybody
The fact that this video was in one take shows your deep understanding of this subject, I really hope more people get to see this and get better!
Thank you
When the dr says that failure with suboxone can come with the patient doing “self management” he is right. My son was on suboxone after a 60 day treatment program and was doing well. But then he started trying to stop taking it for 4 days or whatever and try and use again. I begged him to not
Do that and take it as directed and not think about eventually getting off. I then suggested an excellent you tube video (look up: after 11 years in recovery a suboxone trial patient speaks out)from a man who was one of the first trial patients. It’s an excellent video. Unfortunately, my son did not make it BUT anyone who is still using and sees this, I hope the video can give you some hope and direction. Don’t make your parents live my families life which is full of pain
I am so sorry for your loss. We are here to support you. Thankyou so much for sharing this with us.
So sorry for your loss 😥 u lost my partner a year ago yesterday to the disease we have a 14yr old daughter I'm 15mnths in recovery from a 23 yr heroin addiction I need to do this for me my mum and my kids hope you have a good Xmas love from Scotland Jx ✌️❤️🙏🏴
@@Discovering_Nicole1 I would love too, but my husband is a little reticent about being so vocal. So I need to respect his opinion. Although, I do know there are a lot of mothers who are willing to talk. For instance: the black poster project on the east coast. I’m sure you could google to get the woman’s name who started it. I know there has been many news articles on it. Also, she may have some contacts of some mothers who would like to do an interview. Also, maybe contact humanizing addiction (Facebook page). This mother lost her daughter and started the page and she also has a lot of contacts. I’ve watched your channel and you are doing great work and helping
others. This is a monster of a problem and I wish I had some answers💜
@@jilliancooper4756 I’m so sorry about your partner. We are losing too many good people. But, I’m glad you are 15 months in recovery. That is fantastic! Please keep it going. Just remember if anything happened to you, your loved ones suffer the most. So all the more reason to hang in there and stay the course❤️Merry Christmas
@@moswiney2737 thank you so much and I hope you have a nice Xmas n all the best for 2021 love from Scotland Jx ✌️🙏💕🏴
I'm glad to cover this topic. There is still so much misinformation about this type of medication and that misinformation leads to stigma. Great video!
Absolutely Right jexi! Too much misinformation going around. Thankyou for being here.
God does provide & today he helped me find you. Day one & counting. Thank you for the motivation to start. Pray for me please. Ill be watching & listening.
This is a very interesting video dr B. This is helping me to don't fail in my suboxone mat. It is always a pleasure and very instructive information about my recovery from drugs addiction. Thank you so much!
Thank you Dr B. You're a moral and ethical man.
Not long ago, well, maybe a year or two back I saw a doc saying he gave his patients no more than 6 months to start and stop the use of suboxone. I was shocked. He said it was usually 2 to 3 months and he started weaning right away. I wanted to scream at my computer and ask WHY?
Putting people in jail for this disease is exactly like putting people in jail for needing a wheel chair because of cancer or something. It is morally repugnant to me, and should be to others as well.
The government/ state worries me most of the 3 categories you mentioned. Education will usually help the individual and provider, but changing laws and politicians mindset is like trying to solve Chinese math by a child. It's almost impossible, but I still have hope.
Again, thank you for what you do.
Sorry I haven't commented lately. I was in the hospital in ICU for 4 days for pneumonia and heart issues, and I'm still recovering from the later as well as assisting my mother who had a stroke. Good news is that she's doing great and so am I.
God speed kind sir.
Hoosier, are you ok? Thankyou for always being here. If you need support or just want to chat, Nicole is an amazing listener & answers my 1800-779-4715. Try to rest & get better soon.
@@DrBAddictionRecovery I'm doing well doc. Thank you and Nicole. Appreciate it. I promise I will call if ever needed sir.
Thank you as well Nicole!
@@hoosierdaddy2308 Great.
@@hoosierdaddy2308 ok, we are here buddy
@@hoosierdaddy2308 I love the Chinese math analogy
You bring Dignity to addiction.🤗
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Thank you Dr for ALL that you do! You are truly the best DR around !
As someone in recovery and that works in recovery at a detox/inpatient treatment center I agree with most of what your saying, other than detoxing from Suboxone or methadone is consistently longer and harder without question the toughest detoxing I see on a regular basis
I cant speak for methadone but bup has been an easy taper the few times I do it. Wont sleep well for a while but it's better than vomiting, diarrhea, cold sweats, pain, etc.
@@ufc990 try methadone and them tell if its easy too ,lol this shit its crazy.
I'm 18 in recovery have a job baby is due may 7th. I had been using meth heroin pills pretty much all drugs since 13 started getting sober went to a suboxone clinic I pass every drug test.
I just started on Suboxone a fourth time. Wish me luck!
Good luck
Great video. Reminded me of when I first started treatment on suboxone. I went to a pain clinic and not a treatment center. I could tell that the office employee didn't like me at the pain clinic or the nurse practitioner. But not knowing where to go I just google suboxone doctors in my area and that where I went.
They started me on 16mg then after 4 months they wanted me to start cutting back on my dosage to 8mg. Then after one month on 8mg they wanted me to go to 4mg.
Luckily for me I needed to reschedule an appointment and the office manager wouldn't allow me to reschedule even though my appointment was still 2 weeks away.
I ended up finding a treatment center with a doctor that specializes in addiction. His office made sure to work me in for an appointment.
My new doctor switched me to subutex and helped me with getting the correct treatment. But most important I didn't feel ashamed going into his office every month. He's since retired and I'm seeing a new doctor. But it's definitely important to go to a doctor or treatment center that will help and not somewhere that isn't meant for addiction treatment.
Thanks again for these videos Doctor!
Thanks for the help doctor I learn more from you than my suboxone doctor unfortunately
Thankyou Ben. I am glad to help.
Good lord the depth and clarity of your understanding…. I haven’t words.
Dr. B
Thank you so much for this content. It is very well presented. Unbiased, honest and informative. Within 30 minutes of finding your channel, I have been inspired with hope, better understanding, and now see where I can correct my current M.A.T. treatment with buprenorphine. I will be sending this buprenorphine playlist to my fiancé and family members. Thanks again!!
gratefully,
Samuel L.
Hi dr b I was on sub. For 3 years taking total of 6 mil a day it took me 20 days just to be able to sleep it was the worst. I just wish there were more doc educated enough to give sound advice like you
Dr B! Let’s talk about modafinil. And bipolar disorder and addiction. Also genetic mutation MTHFR and the ties to drug addiction
Trying to get there
Never heard a clinician speak about this so thoroughly, especially the institutional issues surrounding treatment. Need more people with this understanding in these positions.
Awesome video doc! Spot on as always! Stay safe and take care! ❤
Hi Doug! Thankyou so so much.
A video on the Bernese method and microdosing induction would be great and interesting.
thanks Dr. B. stay safe and take care!
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Love and appreciate the content you're providing ! 👍🤘
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I think physicians generally define addiction to a drug as _having a compulsion to repeatedly take the drug even though it is doing more harm than good._ Whether a drug is being, on balance, harmful, or helpful, may be obvious, or it may be subject to argument. In some ways a physician is likely to have more knowledge and experience, about where to look for signs of harm, than their patient may have. For example, say her patient takes omeprazole. Then, by arranging for a blood test, a physician may notice that a patient may be deficient in vitamin B12, before the patient notices any effects from this deficiency. If the patient has been able to get his acid reflux under control by changing his diet, he may be doing more harm than good, by continuing to take omeprazole. If the physician recommends that the patient stop taking omeprazole, and for some reason the patient continues taking it, according to the definition of _addiction_ that I mentioned above, this patient would be addicted to omeprazole. He would be an omeprazole addict. Here the conclusion is obvious. But in other situations, whether a drug is harmful or helpful, may not be so obvious. And, like any scientifically educated professional person, a physician may sometimes confuse her cultural ideas of harm, with scientific ideas, and imagine that her cultural ideas, or claim that her cultural ideas, are scientifically verifiable ideas. For example let's say the physician is Roman Catholic, and believes what she hears from the Pope. When the Pope says using condoms to prevent pregnancy is spiritually harmful. the physician may find all kinds of scientific rationale for not using condoms. You can suffer anaphylactic shock from a latex allergy and die. Condoms, if you neglect to remove them from your vagina, will change your vaginal ecosystem and may result in vaginal infections. When enough condoms are flushed down the toilet it can stress municipal sewer systems. These are the scientifically factual reasons, although they don't seem to me, at least, to be very convincing reasons. But physicians have not always limited their "scientific" reasons to ones that have any validity whatsoever. In hindsight, efforts at cultural value salesmanship, seem easy to distinguish from science. But what about the nonsense that physicians say today? Up until around 1950 textbooks used to support some of the cultural values of the day, by teaching medical students that masturbation could cause diabetes. Physicians performed clitorodectomies to prevent women from masturbating. Don't take my word for it. Look it up.
When one substitutes buprenorphine for diacetyl morphine, one is certainly substituting one drug for another. But whether one is substituting one addiction for another, is a different question. Before I would come to any conclusion, one way or another, or even just a tentative opinion, I would want to learn much more about both drugs. Just for starters: how toxic is each drug? How effective is each drug at relieving pain, or depression? What are the safe dosage ranges for each drug? What about the various effects of the drugs. Relative amount of sleepiness? Ability to use dangerous equipment while on the drug? Cost - how much money is this going to cost me? I tend to think that most people who jump to the conclusion that the substitution is substituting one addiction for another, haven't asked many of the questions I've asked, much less found many answers.
I wish that You were in S.E. Pennsylvania.....or closer. Thank You for Your kindness, knowledge and compassion. It's tough to find a Doctor like You. Hopeful in Pennsylvania.
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Watching your videos have saved my life . I always thought suboxone was just also a bad thing because at aa and many people think any daily medication is bad. You showed me it will help
Me live a good life . You saved me, so on behalf of me my mom my dad my family, friends and my future children . Thank you so Much . My words can’t describe how much you helped me thank you for putting these videos out . I know there are others out there who will watch this and agree 🥹🥹❤️
Can you upload videos in stereo instead of mono
Thanks Dr you are a great man doing a great service
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Suboxone saved my life. I was at my lowest taking oxy 30s percs, hydrocodone anything I could find just to function and I finally hit my rock bottom and me and my buddy found this doctor who specialized in addiction and so we went. I took the last of my pills the day before and started the medication first thing in the morning when my withdrawals started and it worked. I actually felt normal with a little bit of energy which eventually that went away but needless to say it work. I was on 8 mg a day and did taper over a few yrs to about 2 msg a day and it’s been almost 6 yrs since my last pill. Unfortunately my buddy didn’t last but about 6 months till he relapsed but it works for me. I’ve gone cold turkey several times and managed to stay clean for a few months problem was the cravings were still there. It might not be for everyone but I’m so thankful I found that dr. because had I stayed an addict I probably would be addicted to those fake percs with the fentanyl in them or be dead. There everywhere now. It’s scary
How long does it take to work please
@@kathytracy7952 when you start feeling withdrawal take it.. you have to wait until you feel withdrawal
I am in horrible withdrawal can’t sleep at all still in pain. First day on 3 tablets
@@kathytracy7952stay with it, the pain will pass every day you will feel a little better. Pray and most importantly find a support system.. I’m Robert’s wife we battled this addiction together. Processing our pain being open about our addiction and prayer got us through this . God loves you he hasn’t left and when you come out the other side of this you will be stronger. I feel your pain and am tearing up at the very thought of what your going through. It’s hard but not impossible to beat. I will keep you in my prayers stay strong I’m fighting with you
@@kathytracy7952 What also helped me and still does is watching Soft White Underbelly videos. Stick with it and you’ll start feeling better. Addiction is so powerful and people that have never experienced opiate withdrawal simply think we can just stop. The pain of wd kept me on oxys so long but I knew one day it was gonna kill me if I didn’t stop. Hang in there.
Well explained Doc. Thank you very much for the information. Ive been having these proble problems. Everything you actually spoken about
Im into my 3rd day of mat at home detox... so far so good. minor aches very hungry staying positive lets go.
Lets go
@@DrBAddictionRecovery I at about 3 weeks and I haven't felt this good since 9th grade when I started drinking. I wish I would have done this 20 years ago but I just couldn't see any light. I have zero cravings, am able to sleep relatively good, eating isn't an issue anymore. The hardest thing is filling in all the time of my day so I mostly spend it on bettering myself. I do a lot of walking and even started working out. Thank you for your videos and tour support Dr. B!!! I'll keep you posted.
I jumped from methadone to suboxone......🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮. Tapered from 130 to 70mg and switched. It was hell but years later sSuboxone is the only med I still take. I must say, compared to dope and methadone (both of which I've detoxed form repeatedly), also many benzos, I am not super intimidated at suboxone weaning. Still......I miss shooting dope every minute of every day and it's been years since I touched it (purely because it wouldn't work anyway).
I absolutely love your approach to medicine and how you articulate your points of view! What is your opinion on testosterone replacement for an individual that has been on 40 mg of methadone for 10 plus years? In South Carolina there is a extreme stigma surrounding methadone. I'm not sure how doctors in general view prescribing testosterone to methadone patients. Assuming the patient has demonstrated a need for the medication. I just fear they may be reluctant.
Although the acute phase last longer on suboxone withdrawal the intensity of the withdrawals themselves are not nearly as bad as fentanyl.
Thanks, great video
Appreciate it!
Doctor B
I want to start a 5 dqy or up to 7 days detox using subutex as I’ve cut down my usage of heroin intake to less the 0.5grm per day.
I’m aiming to complete this short detox in order to begin the Naltrexone treatment which works for me so better than long term MAT treatment.
Please can you advise me on what dosage I should use for day one once mild withdrawal symptoms have occurred and the dose that will eliminate the withdrawal symptoms from day one. Then what dosage should I be tapping down daily to be able to begin Naltrexone treatment.
After stopping subutex on dqy five then how many days after can I start taking the naltrexone. I have screen test to check if opiates are clear from my body
Thanks
I’m so ready to be off subs. I was on methadone manage for ten years. I got addicted to benzos then started using heroin again. I’m on subs now. They make me feel like crap. I thought more would be better it made me feel worse. Now I’m only on 6 milligrams and I’m tapering
Some NA and AA groups tell people they don’t need MAT
I have been on it for 13yrs started with 120 month now down to 54 a month...8mg each.....am I stuck on this for life? Is it hard to get off of?? I have never failed or relapsed being on it.
If you come off it very slowly, it’s not hard to come off. I’m very very sensitive to drugs and if I got past the 26 hr mark without it I get so sick.
But I went from 8mg down to 6mg then down to 5.6mg then 0.4 down etc to 5.2mg all they way down to 0.4. In the U.K. we have 8mg, 2mgs and 0.4microgram pills. So I dropped 0.4 every 2 weeks with my drs help. I did end up relapsing but not because of the taper because of pain. I’d recently got an unknown stomach problem that left me crying in pain so I ended up using. I’m back on 8mg now but ready to go back down soon. Talk to your dr! See if you can go down 0.4 micro grams because then you don’t even notice it! Good luck. Take to your addiction dr!
I've been on Suboxone for almost 8 yrs. I slowly tapered myself down & got off of it for 2 months. I went back on it cuz for me, the Post Acute Withdrawals as far as 0 energy got me discouraged. I went back on it & I'm currently starting to taper again. Adter being on it for so long, its definitely not going to be easy. I now know what I'm up against & have to push threw the 0 energy. I will tell you tho, just being off of it for 2 weeks I genuinely laughed for the first time in years! It felt great! Its like I felt a fog lift off of me & was clearer. Good luck on your journey! It can be done! Just remember, we've been on this med for A LONG TIME so its not going to be a walk in the park. I know I don't want to be on this med forever so I'm starting over to try again to come off 😁 good luck!!
It works but I been on it to long i been on it for 11 years now i was take 2mg 3 times a day but I messed up with everything going on now now I am bach using i am look for a rehab to go to in upstate ny the problem is I have no insurance and state run ones are no good
hello Dr.B. what does the research show a good taper guideline for someone on 2mg/ day that's ready to get off? started at 4mg/day year and a half a go. was on prescribed opiates 6 years.
No solid research. Clinician specific my friend
I do have a question..DR. I am a patient that had 2 back fusion surgeries 1 neck fusion surgery. I was on 15 MG of oxycodins every 6 hrs.it said 8 hrs but my pain was level was an 8 too 10 of pain .now i took myself to the dr.and ask Dr. Please I want to get off pain meds..but I'm still in pain..I'm on Suboxons 8 MG..I do break mines in half .. 1 whole 8 MG..does help me with my pain and withdrawals .throu out the day.my pain level is still there but not always through out the day ..like how I was on pain medication. I'm so thankful for this medication. It helps my pain and I'm not always taking a pill every 6 hrs ..1 question..can u work TAKING THIS MEDICATION. I think I can do something not too much on my back for part-time work maybe. I do b in pain but I can handle for a couple hrs...my question can I work under this medication?
Listen doctor im in pain cervical stenosis and lumbar spondylosis L5-S1 does suboxone work for pain or should i take subutex
Any tips for a second-world country in Europe, Poland exactly on how to get prescribed buprenorphine? Here you have to go to 3 detoxes before they consider giving you damn methadone, and they are treating heroin addictions with tramadol there, they have no idea what they are doing and ive seen some of the saddest shit in my life there, 20 different category units not even guarded with a fence, my problem is with just very long codeine intake and i dont want to go back to this detox, heroin was there on my 3rd day and meth on like 8th, i almost asked for morphine but luckily i didnt do it, its just fucking depressing and demoralizing…..
Dr. B, I’ve been taking 4 mg of Suboxone for at least 10 years. I realize it’s a small dose, but I sometimes wonder if it affects my physically or emotionally, but it’s been so long, I may not notice any of these changes, if any. Thanks
I figure you can’t answer these but this has been my issues with Suboxone: Can Suboxone have an effect on sleep to the point of waking up with shortness of breath? I can’t stand waking up and not being able to breathe for 5-30 minutes it’s after I wake from sleep but has been problematic for several months is there a way to test blood ph and can Suboxone affect that? Would it be worth trying to get off the Suboxone and going to methadone?
How could someone prescribed a normal dose EVENTUALLY not feel sick at hour 23? Feeling sick at hour 23 is an inevitability. I was an "under dosed" patient at 2mg. Now im on 10 and every day there is discomfort. No avoiding it.
Also my general disposition towards everyone around me wasn't too great on 2mg. This was a problem that occured the second half of the day. I dont have that problem so much on 10mg. But waking up freezing cold is just part of the 24hr dosing lifestyle.
Where do I find a caring doctor like you I failed on suboxone the doctor didn’t care about me only money when asked too many questions I was kicked off the program and was given only 2 weeks supply to taper I was in agony from 24mg daily to 0mg in 2 weeks I have been off for 3months I felt so consistently awful that I finally relapsed I’m lost and I don’t know what to do
Please narrow your presentation. It puts me to sleep.......zzzzz! Narrow down what you want to say. I get lost with one "list" or digression after another. This is confusing to a non-druggie. Don't flood me with "information" and digress to other things. By the time you are done I've forgotten what you were talking about!
Can you explain in a video how to quit benzodiazepine? Thank you very much for your channel!
I have some up
So true.
Dr. B. I love what you do. I have a different question: Have you ever took any opioid for pain or whatever else? If so, which ones and how did you feel when you took them? I ask because some people absolutely hate how they make them feel, and the other ones (which is basically everyone here, including myself ) love the ways it makes them feel. Im a curious mind and just thought it might connect us even more. Obviously you don't have to answer lol. I appreciate your work
Thank you also for normalizing a life on suboxone , you showed me it’s not a bad thing it’s actually perfect for ME. Thank you forever for your videos 🥹
Good morning Dr B love your content I'm on 1.2mg of bup from 16mg 20mnths ago this is the 1st time in 23yrs I've been offered it. I do loads of other stuff CBT meditation I have great aftercare support n I now work in addiction as a volunteer because I'm still on meds u can't get a paid job so want off the rest after the new year I've been dropping 200mg a time what's your advice love from Scotland Jx ✌️❤️🙏🏴
200 micro gram Jx
many failure from provider side because they always hiding information....and not tell the truth to patient how to tapper off suboxone
My dr is increasing the price to see the dr again (for the 3rd or 4th time in the passed 5 years or so).. now it's going to run $300 a month just to see the dr. Pretty nuts. They said it was due to more overhead because they moved into a new building.
lucky i paid my car off or i'd be curled up in bed
Where do you live? Call us 1800-779-4715
@@DrBAddictionRecovery 40 min north of Cincinnati, OH. City called West Chester. Been on bup for 10-12 years. It's always been about $200-$250 just to talk to the dr for 2 minutes and get my script written. Every year or so now though it seems there's been a $25 increase.
@@mikeb6410 I know the place
@@DrBAddictionRecovery good place, good staff. First one I went to that I didn't have to sit in the waiting room for 3 to 4 hours before seeing the Dr. I figured those prices were standard tho. I have heard rumors about some ppl getting their insurance to cover the dr visit which was unheard of years ago
I can’t get subaxone to work for me at all, I might go to detox for methadone soon.
Hey doc ty so much for answering so many of ?s with your videos. My dr I complained opioids weren’t helping with pain. I’ve been on opioids like 15 Yrs. So she put me on 2 /4mg, a day I took first dose I was hi as a kit, So I thought maybe my body needed to get used to it. I took the other 4 mg Again I was high out of my mind and felt awful. But my pain felt better than it’s ever felt in many years. So next day I split 4mg in 1/2. Did 1/2 in mrng and half afternoon still felt hi on only 4mg. So tommorow going to cut it in 3 ways. But from this video you say I should take it as directed I do not like to feel stoned. I got to be about my business I run a business.
Take less. 4mg is a heavy dose for people that took opioids for pain reduction and aren‘t used to giant abuse doses like addicts are taking. Maybe 2mg is enough for you. Ask your doctor. You can get high on suboxone and its extremely potent.
Fuck Suboxone im Allergic Made my Chronic pain worse
How to tell the doctor tour alergeric to this medication
Too bad I’ve been on every opioid there is it’s so effective for pain. There’s no up and down roller coaster
Do you do Telemedicine
“Detox” is a very small component of addressing addiction, which is a complex physical/mental/social disease. People who think that a 7/10/30/60 day “program” will turn you around are deluded. Taking on addiction is perhaps harder than getting a super morbidly obese person down to 120 pounds and having them staying there for the rest of their life. And no, buprenorphine is not the equivalent of a gastric bypass.
That was a great description about addiction
@@ronalddematteisd5543 in its own right, obesity is an addiction to food, and works with the same dynamics.
can any kind hearted soul help me with my query please.
I took Buprenorphine 8mg first time for my h withdrawal and it was so so horrible I can't explain.. it was normal withdrawal X10 .. dose it normal?I am so disappointed that first time I tried to get my life back and .... I have appointments tomorrow... pls 🙏
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@@DrBAddictionRecovery Thank you so much for such great work you doing. Your videos are so informative and helped me and others in so many ways specially looking at this subject of medication assisted treatment process .. I had very wrong and different views about this. I am from UK and trying to get off H. I tried last week first time Buprenorphine and it was the most painful thing I can remember. I think I took it earlier than I should have. How long should I wait and how should I feel after taking first dose? Will it be same as normal withdrawal symptoms? Please help me with this... I am so afraid
If it keeps you off the drugs take I used saved my life
Love your videos dr b. Im on 4 mg of suboxone and recently upped my dose to 6 but had to go back to 4 as i felt increased anxiety. Have you ever had experience with that. I feel i could be getting more relief on a higher dose but cant seem to tolerate it.
Usually other way around. Could be just how you spread dose. Please ask your doc n hope that helps
Hey exactly the same thing happened to me was on 6 but went down to 4 was making me feel a little strange at times. Dunno think I need more but did save my life
Did it! A week out, No cravings, no desire at all. (I know I want to stay on my guard, but...). Trigger for me when it stopped helping with any level of pain relief. Personified, like some "chick"...Don't want me anymore? OK then f**k YOU. Then I don't want you! Had to put a chip on my shoulder. I tapered down, mega vitamin C & some E & D3, quit cold. In a few days started micro-dosing box, like 6 Pc's per strip once a day.
Withdraws not as bad as I had seen before, in a week Done. No thought of going back to that nasty shit. Nope, it didn't want ME anymore? OK then I don't want YOU. Not any Need, it was a Want. And I no longer want. Good luck to you out there.
You doctors prescribe suboxone like candy now, same thing u we’re doing with opioids in the past before the epidemic started
Tis doc seems high all the time😂
Pillock
so where do i fit? i stopped snorting fenty on 1/3 then 24 hrs later saw my doc and started suboxone induction. i was given 4 mg and sent home. an hour later i felt no better or worse so i was told take another 4 mg. i immediately went into precipitated wd. i lost all control of my body as muscles flaied wildly then locked up and then i collapsed with literally sweat pouring out of every pore. doc instructed to take another 4 mg tab before bed and that was my day 1.
day 2 doc told me to take 8mg 2x a day. i followed this too and al the while was taking the other rx's such as clonodine, trazadone, etc etc. but day 2 again i took suboxone as rxd and had zero relief from wd's.
day 3 i was told to take 12mg 2x a day. so for 3 days now i been taking 12mg 2 x a day and have yet to rescive any benefot from suboxone whatso ever. i actually thought i was feeling better on day 4, but woke on day 5 now and regressed. again i have chills and am sweating like crazy. so im curious where you would place the blame here???? but bottom line is i did exactly as instructed and in agony. 6 days into induction and i have zero relief from suboxone butdef the comfort meds have helped
These are the best videos I have found about the subject on youtube.
Instead of traffic and people visuals I recommend flowers and nature scenes. Those visuals are hectic and triggering.
One more thing….. I can give my wife a kiss in the morning with morning breath!! I’m not yelling and screaming because I ran out of Oxycodone. It’s a crazy disease. We love our wives and family and life is to short to think about anything else. Good luck my friends.
I’m sorry to say it but you can tell who wants a good life and success even though we are hooked on a substance. Always chase excellence, and your wife or husband .. We get all carved up inside like the days are carved in stone. Visit your family, take your wife out for dinner and a walk…and… lol. Life is good on Suboxone. Better than screaming at my wife in the morning because I’m out of Oxycodone. I really feel our significant others suffer greatly because of our addiction. I love my wife and desire her more every day. There was a time when I felt nothing. I didn’t want my wife flirting with me. She cried and thought something is wrong. It hurt so much because my. Wife is my life, my oxygen. I told her and she’s never left my side since. I can’t imagine my life without her. Love you Kelly.