I can't see his rivalries or his storylines being significant enough for that, his character was too gimmicky. Mr Perfect worked as a mid-card champion, but that was it. Nothing to do with talent, more the character, perhaps they'd have needed to reinvent him first.
He probably would have had one but he spent the better part of 4 and half years injured while guys like Michaels and Hart were constantly in the spotlight. I feel bad because he would have been a great world champion but I understand why he was never given a run. I feel the same way about Barry Windham in WCW. He should have a world title run but he would take indefinite leaves of absences because he liked the time off. I cannot blame him too be honest.
@@pauldavis5665 The main champions is rarely ever carried as a heel. As a long term plan, heel main champions don't work, because the idea of the main champion is to be the face and draw for the company with merch etc, the kids aren't supposed to be running out and buying the toys of anti-heroes.
I'm 46, and have seen a whole lot of wrestling. Bret Hart has hands down the most rewatchable catalog as well as the most compelling out of any wrestler I have ever seen
@@EOTA564 I think Vince was concerned about Curt's back during that second run and never really did much to match the momentum he had during his earlier run.
@@crazyjim9380 it would have been a risk giving him the title in 1992 when he was just back from injury but from a storyline perspective it made more sense than Bret winning it at a house show. Bret winning the Rumble as an underdog that year would also have built some momentum for his first title run. As it turned out, Hennig was fit enough to carry the title through to Mania and they put on a 5 star match at KOTR.
One great thing about Bret's generation is when they screwed up a move, they could quickly react like it was all part of the plan. Can today's wrestlers say the same?
Back then every guy in the company had been seasoned for years just to earn their spot on the roster. Nothing was just given to them. It’s the exact opposite now days
Bret''s career in the WWE was perfect, started as a single, went to a tag, had a taste of singles in 1988 and 1989 with Bad News Perfect, and DiBiase. Then another tag run with the belts. 1991 was the right move going vs Perfect 2nd with Bulldog going at him first, then winning the IC title and holding it for a while and then his 5 reigns as WWE Champion. My only wish is that Bret lost the title to Austin at Wrestlemania 14 instead of HBK and Montreal at Survivor Series 1997 never happened. Bret had a great 10 year+ run in the WWE from 1986 through 1997, still a lot of what ifs that could have changed everything.
Let’s be fair around Wrestlemania 4 bret definitely was not what was required on the mic,savage hogan roberts dibiese and Heenan with his guys all blew bret outta the water
On the microphone in terms of cutting promos, he was never what he needed to be. 1997 I guess but that’s only because he was dealing with a very real issue. He couldn’t fabricate himself into a good promo if his life depended on it. Bret I always thought would’ve been much better suited in real professional sports of some kind. Just go out there and you make your name on your ability alone. The other stuff like microphone skills, charisma, doesn’t really factor in.
Roddy Piper told him if he wanted to make money in the business he learned to talk. He thought all you had to do was be a great wrestler. It's called sports entertainment bro. So Roddy Piper mentored him . And gave him the opportunity at the intercontinental belt putting him over taking the pin.
Bret Hart is top 5 greatest worker of all time, sometimes even in my number 1 spot. Bret is one of a very few that can get me invested in any match he's in. And Bret excelled at both singles and tag team wrestling, and as both a babyface and a heel. His only flaw is his mic work, but even there Bret had developed into a great talker by 1997, albeit this was in the final few years of his career.
@@shoeplayisbad1 Bret Hart was an excellent heel during the Hart Foundation's early tag team run in the 80s, and then also in 1997 with the Hart Foundation. He was also really good as the Hitman in WCW in his feud with Sting in 1998. But Bret was already checked out mentally by 1999.
@@shoeplayisbad1 the question was best worker. Bret is up there in the top 5. I was just adding to the discussion by including other aspects of why Bret's a legend.
I was born in 86 so i missed that prime hogan erra ..so to me growing up bret was hogan to me i remember waiting for his wcw arrival champing him hoping he would go nd shine but dam that didnt go the way i expected
Bret Hart is the best at the art of pro wrestling in the ring. His matches are better than anything today because he made everything as if it was a shoot. Now when it comes to comedy or entertainment I love wrestling promos from various people, but in ring Bret us #1
I had been a fan of Bret's since those early matches with Perfect; still some of my all-time favorite matches. I'd just gotten into wrestling in '89, and while everyone was enamoured with Hogan and Warrior, I couldn't take my eyes off of what Bret and the Rockers were doing. Rented WM3 and told myself, "This is what wrestling should look like" whenever Bret was in the ring. When SummerSlam '91 happened, I REALLY didn't expect them to give Bret the belt. We'd seen the matches before, and every time I'd seen Bret in singles matches, it was like they had no respect for him or his character. Always felt like the company saw him at the same level as Koko B. Ware or Blue Blazer, for some reason. I was _ecstatic_ when he won the I-C belt that night. Knowing what we know about wrestling now, I shouldn't have been surprised by it, but back then... Ran and told my mom Bret had actually won the belt. She wasn't a big wrestling fan, but after sitting with me through live house show matches and some TV, she was equally surprised. 😂 It was also _highly_ satisfying a few years later when Bret and Shawn-two guys I'd been rooting on (along with Jannetty) while all my friends scoffed at the idea-were fighting over the world title.
Mr Perfect was so Perfect he didn't need a belt. His perfection transcended something as trivial as a belt. Mere material means nothing in the arms of perfection.
We only have Bret's word to go by, in regard to receiving the most fan mail at that time, but it's believable. Bret & Steamboat were arguably the best-looking performers in the company back then. Both of them, Savage ( R.I.P. ), Hennig ( R.I.P. ), & The British Bulldogs were undeniably the best performers on the roster. The top stars, all big men, had 4 moves each. Even as a kid, you could tell that talents like Bret, Savage & others were the work horses. They were more exciting to watch! There was just something about Bret. He had this quiet charisma, just a cool vibe about his persona, & he was smooth & vicious in the ring, as the best technician. Arguably, the best ever, but his ego was his detriment, back then & today. In his dvd biopic a decade+ ago, he said of his match with Davey winning the IC belt at Wembley, "that match was really about me" . Bret has every right to be proud of his personal accomplishments & what he gave to & did for the business. He should take pride in knowing he elevated the art of pro wrestling. If he hasn't already though, therapy might give him peace of mind, to quell his bitterness.
First, Brett has typically been completely honest….. he answers what he’s asked without sugar coating…. People will call ppl fake when they sugar coat things, but then prove they need shit sugar coated by saying things like bitterness. Also, pretty sure you’d be bitter if you lost your health, and millions of dollars. Brett comes across as a real person and that’s about it.
As a super honest person myself this is what I respect about Bret Hart, he's very honest, or at least his stories line up, the Owen/Doink story is actually in his book, I read it not too long ago.
@shoeplayisbad1 no dude. They done a house show loop. The TV stuff never came to anything. Hogan is definitely not the best. Perfect would have been a great champ in 92 or 93 had his back not been injured
@GamingNewsIn60 no way he was a draw like Hogan or even Warrior for that brief period during the height of the Warrior. And Vince didn't really like having heel champions
My favorite match of bret was against curt henning. When he won he tore off his singlet and draped it over his shoulder and i thought that was AWESOME. It was a statement. I as a kid i took it as "you arent perfect"! I loved that match.
It's amazing how these stories change & merge. Going into WrestleMania 4 Bret was getting more fan mail than anyone? Bullshit. This is the story he's told after Hogan went to WCW. Now it's going into WrestleMania 4. More fan mail over Hogan? Savage? Elizabeth? I'm calling bullshit.
Not the first time I heard the story. I'm trying to remember where I first heard it, but it was out there for awhile. Has to be some truth to it because there was no good reason to break up the Hart Foundation in 1988. Plus he finally got some merchandise the following year (the metallic 1.0 version of the shades). Great in the ring, eh on promos at the time, so I think the WWF was right to put him back in tags.
I agree but what he should have said is that his fan mail as a tag wrestler had increased exponentially and that put the idea in Vince's mind to try him out on his own with Neidhart. When they realized he had zero charisma on the mic...which never really got better btw...he was put back with Neidhart. It wasn't until Hogan was leaving and they were focusing on the younger talent after the steroid trials that he got a push for real.
@@TheKidyoung24 I wouldn't say he's lying. There could've been a one week or one month stretch where it actually happened. Kind of like how a midcard guy can get the largest pop of the night for a small window of time. Personally I'm glad they killed the singles run. I think it was more important to get Bad News Brown and Mr. Perfect over in 88 and 89 respectively (Savage and Hogan needed opponents) and both of those guys were far more ready for that spotlight. We also got a great run with the Hart Foundation as faces.
"Doing a job at the start of my singles run would totally ruin it." "How about Bulldog instead?". "That's perfect because his singles run is just getting started." Classic Bret.
Yeah he is a bit of a man child, refusing to drop the belt in Montreal was ridiculous and everyone knows it. EVERYONE drops when they are on the way out.
I'm a big Bret Hart fan and I defend him any Montreal Screwjob conversation because I do think he got screwed BIG time and he should have been able to sue vince for breach of contract, libel, all kinds of hostile workplace stuff... But to sit here and say he got no push when he got to wear the heavyweight title several times is kinda ridiculous. He certainly got some push. Might not have been what he wanted but he certainly didn't get nothing...
I hope he's found happiness in his life. Truly a fantastic worker who never seemed to have an ulterior motive in his career. Too prideful? maybe. But people never have a bad thing to say about him other than how bitter he is.
i know bret probably resented it but i think it worked out best for him. in '89 he wasn't really read for a singles push. think who were the main event guys (hogan, savage, piper, andre, etc) bret would've had a tough time staking out his claim to be better than those guys in the eyes of the fans at that period....2-3 years later was a big difference though
for 80's kids - The Hitman was our best worker. That's what made the HF so a great time. The best teams are balanced and they were PERFECTLY balanced... but as a single's competitor it took a WHILE for Bret to learn how to talk. That's why thy NEEDED Jimmy. Just look at the ld SNME's...jesus bret can barely string 3 words together and make them interesting... and at THIS TIME when he's speaking about he'd already been in wwe for a few years and in comes Perfect and he's pretty damn dynamite on the stick - he didn't really even need Bobby in that sense. So mike work wise, Curt BLEW Bret out of the water. I always think Bret is the biggest Bret mark anyways... I just watched his promo lead in to KOTR 94 and the fans are chanting RAZOR as he's speaking lol... and it's CLEARLY fucking with his head cuz Vince is trying but Bret's interview is mediocre then Razor comes on the screen and just OWNS him lol.
Bret while an amazing worker never really was a big draw. Vince for obvious reasons was always going to be looking elsewhere because he knew Bret wasn’t gonna draw him serious money.
Yeah the years he was champ were super duper lean, they were doing like 1300 people a show it got so bad. As a kid I loved brett but I wasn't spending money on anything
@@GHMYahooka Bret always seemed to confuse ring work with drawing. He thought because he was so great in the ring he should be at the top. The X factor in terms of charisma he never had. This is the first time I heard him act stubborn about his promos. He was a bad promo. He knew it.. Only in 97 when he was genuinely pissed off at Vince/Shawn etc was he any good at promos..
He had already been wrestling and taking bumps since the early 80s in the AWA with his father Larry "the Axe." His first role in wrestling wasn't in the WWF. Plus don't forget all the sports he played in his life....he was a great all around athlete so it makes sense his back took a beating over the years. A back isn't something to mess with...and it doesn't take much to mess it up bad. Many career injuries are back related.
Brett promos were good, he just didn't do the shouty turned up to 11 from start to finish. By the time he got done with his IC run he was as legit as anyone.
I'm a big Btet Hart fan but I think he really started coming into his own with his feuds with Owen Lawler and Austin and him really brought eachother to the next level Bret was always great in the ring and he helped Austin go from very very good to great but Austin did the same with him as charsima and mic skills which Austin was a natural look at him as Stunning Steve or his work in the Hollywood Blonds I remeber thinking Austin Vader Fliar and Sting were the guys working with Hogan when he came into the company but Hogan came in they thankfully got rid of Austin sadly ruined the Vader rivalry but wcw really shit the bed with Austin Vader the Steiners cause of heard and Flair pillman Cactus Jack and Dustin but it worked out that 96 and 97 war with Austin and Hart and Hart and HBK every talks about how much better Bret made Austin but Austin was gonna be a star either Way Bret did make him the biggest star in wrestling history but Aidtin brought the bedt out of Harts mic work charercter work gave him a guy that he up his in and out of the ring work with go back and watch Bret before he returned in 96 and watch the stuff he did with Austin and afterwards one of the best feuds in the history of wrestling during that feud it was clear Bret was still the top guy and Austin was the future before that feud it looked like the future was now and it was HBK
I have to disagree and I was a huge Bret fan during his early tag days. Brets interviews are always about him and how he deserved this is and that and was screwed all the time. He does have legitimate arguments when it comes to Hogan or Goldberg etc but most of the time it's bogus selfish claims.
@@TheKidyoung24 he never said he didn't have a point but he is part of his own life and the things that happen he has to take some responsibility for his life I can't recall a time where he said this was my fault
Bret put up with a lot of crap when he went into singles... Tons of politicking! He did everything he was supposed to do to EARN the title... Glad he got his 🌹 and had a solid run.. one of the best in WWF/WWE history.. 1997 was a great year for Bret! Then it all went to crap in Montreal... Then he left and made a ton of 💸 💰 in WCW... Goldberg.. 😠 😡 🤬.. reckless Bill! And here we sit
Why didn’t Kurt get pushed to world CHAMP at WWF or and WCW? Yeah that’s right Bret. It’s just like any job. Hey you promised me a promotion ? Damn it I’m ready. Office Staff: You’re not all the way ready. You still gotta work on your customer service skills lol
A push doesn’t have to mean mean world champ, especially when Hogan is there. it means like a Role Ricky Steamboat had when Hogan was on top (which Bret was definitely qualified for) he was a great babyface. You can’t tell me Ricky Steamboat was a grrat moc worker either (if anything Bret may have actually been better in the mic than him). Babyfaces just needed to win some matches, and not come across as an asshole or unlikeable in those days. Kurt was a great talker (which in turn made him a great heel), he wasn’t quite the same as a babyface (he was always hurt at that point too.
@@garrymclaughlan6433 that’s exactly what I’m comparing it to. You ever work a job where you’re promised a “push” or promotion but it doesn’t fall through. They don’t follow through. They give excuses.
4:55 Its a work think one of Bret's downfalls theyre testing him. Mr Perfect was such a great worker and thats how you get over. Something felt off in WWE then when he went to WCW you could tell Bret just didnt have the promo skills which imo isn't bad you can hide it
Super telling of what type of person Jacques is that he's quite literally been telling that story for about 15 years now. You'd think he'd have gotten tired of it by now. And yet it's almost all he talks about.
Bret ended up becoming a pretty decent talker. He just wasn't good at doing those 80's style promos because he didn't have an over the top personality. The back and fourth stuff he was doing with Shawn in the 90's was really good though.
I got Bret Hart ranked number two.1 Shawn Michaels 2 Bret Hart as best in ring wrestlers/workers 3 Ricky Steamboat.4 Undertaker 5 Chris Jericho 6 AJ Styles 7 Kurt Angle 8 Curt Hennig 9 Dean Malinko 10 Terry Funk 11 Dusty Rhodes 12 Sting 13 Stone Cold Steve Austin 14 Marty Jennette 15 Triple H 16 Haku 17 John Cena 18 Batista 19 The Rock 20 Scott Hall 21 Booker T 22 Tully Blanchard 23 Randy Orton,24 Macho Man Randy Savage 25 Andre the giant.Honorable mention and I believe the greatest of all time Nature Boy Ric Flair.Greatest wrestler 1a Ric Flair 1b HBK Shawn Michaels.Hulk Hogan should also be on this list.Hulk could really wrestle but his great technical matches were early first couple of years his work in Japan, and his AWA work.
They were testing him and he clearly wasn't ready then. They arent real matches. Screw the confidence thing. There wasnt a monday night raw back then, nobody saw anything that happened the night before. Who cares? But Bret likes to make up stories in his head.
He won just about every available title multiple times. Why does he always talk like he was squashed or ruined every step of the way? When I was a kid, I thought angry Bret was the heel character he created, but it turns out that angry Bret was his default mode.
Snippet of a discussion talking about his 1988 push initially and what it took to finally get his singles career going. Should he not discuss it if he's asked?
Don't get me wrong Bret was a good wrestler but nearly every interview he complains about being held back from being great or how things should've gone a certain way blaming others etc. He seems really bitter 😐
Bret's made a career of doing these thousands of shoot interviews and making millions of dollars these past several decades complaining about the same stuff.
@Myrridan19 that would be understandable and believable if the night after Over the Edge Bret had walked away from the business. He chose not to. So he wasn't blaming "the business" while collecting a check. Hell even after all the drugs took Davey Bret still wrestled. So he didn't blame Daveys drug use on "the business". Bret openly admits he resents Goldberg for ending his career because it is what keeps him from getting in on the WWE Saudie money. He wishes he could still be in the business. So that alone tells us he isn't bitter over Owen or Bulldogs death. Sad? Sure. Mad? You bet. His bitterness is only fueled by money. Hes said as much.
I love Bret, but does he really think he should have been in the main event against Hogan at Wrestlemania 6 or 7 ? LOL !!!!! That must be some concussion based delusion right there. Ultimate Warrior was pushed because of merchandise sales and Hogan needing the summer off in 1990 to do a movie. Ultimate Warrior was always going to lose the title when Hogan returned. He didn't fail as champion, he was booked as a filler and nothing more. NO ONE sold merchandise like Warrior. Does Bret really think he should have won the title in Canada from Hogan ??? Good grief, such revisionist history from a delusional Hitman.
@@lexkanyima2195 I'm not sure what you're saying - warrior was never beaten clean at all really. Bret thinks HE should have taken the title from Hogan in Canada at Wrestlemania. That sounds crazy for 1990. Warrior merch sold and Hogan was out for the summer. That's the reasoning behind Warrior beating Hogan
Bret is really full of himself I doesn't like to people over like they do for him I met him a while ago to get his autograph never looked me in the eye I can't belive I took the day off from work to see him I got a better conversation from the nitro girls who were there next to him he's a narcissist.
Politicking is, or at least was, a huge part of being successful in wrestling. Only a few guys have ever gotten over as huge stars without politicking, and that was only because the booker/owner chose to strap a rocket ship to them. Even Hulk Hogan himself spent much of his career politicking so that he would remain strong and viewed as a top star... And it worked. Same with Austin. Even HBK, whom Vince adored, still spent his career politicking for his own benefit. If you get into pro wrestling, this is just something you need to do if you want to be a big success.
@@Myrridan19 negotiating is apart of Politicking too, and Bret wanted everyone to put him over. Hulk Hogan could be like that because he’s the reason why the industry went mainstream… and he was also 6’7 at one point. That’s not good for business for a guy that’s barely 6’0 to beat everyone by putting them in a sharp shooter. Bret ego was and always the problem, he only speaks highly of those who kiss his ass.
@@Myrridan19 No because Shawn is a different person. All Shawn wanted to do was get high and party back then. The only person I’ve heard Shawn not wanting to put over was Bret and I don’t blame him. Hart believes he’s the main character and everyone else is the supporting cast.
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Bret is Definitely top 5 add Mr perfect to that list as well the most underrated wrestler
Top 5 in ring workers in no particular order:Ultimate Warrior, Goldberg, Kevin Nash, Hulk Hogan, Randy Hogan
@@NoneofYabiz-rx3zi top 5 best trash wrestlers Brooklyn brawler,meat,David flair, king Mable/viscera,crowbar
Danny Hodge, Frank and Karl Gotch, and Lou Thesz were the best in-ring workers ever
@@donfuego5716 poor brawler…gave himself to Pat Patterson and never went beyond jobber status…hope he was paid well at least
One thing that I always believed based on talent alone is that Mr. perfect 100% deserved a championship run.
I can't see his rivalries or his storylines being significant enough for that, his character was too gimmicky.
Mr Perfect worked as a mid-card champion, but that was it.
Nothing to do with talent, more the character, perhaps they'd have needed to reinvent him first.
He probably would have had one but he spent the better part of 4 and half years injured while guys like Michaels and Hart were constantly in the spotlight.
I feel bad because he would have been a great world champion but I understand why he was never given a run.
I feel the same way about Barry Windham in WCW. He should have a world title run but he would take indefinite leaves of absences because he liked the time off. I cannot blame him too be honest.
He would have been a "perfect" heel champion.
@@pauldavis5665 The main champions is rarely ever carried as a heel.
As a long term plan, heel main champions don't work, because the idea of the main champion is to be the face and draw for the company with merch etc, the kids aren't supposed to be running out and buying the toys of anti-heroes.
@@pauldavis5665 Curt would be great in the new generation era
I'm 46, and have seen a whole lot of wrestling. Bret Hart has hands down the most rewatchable catalog as well as the most compelling out of any wrestler I have ever seen
Curt Hennig - Mr. Perfect is a fucking legend!
I know, he was so hot in that leotard!
Even as a kid I could see he was great.
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Yh he was my favourite as a kid! He was " absolutely perfect "!! 😊
@@TomLeach-dd8cl and sexy too!
"Owen would have had a field day with a guy like Sid" - Bret Hart
Owen beat sit in a tag with Davey in 97
There's no doubt WWE didn't handle Owen right either the hart Boys could have been big stars a lot sooner
I always thought Curt Hennig should have taken the title from Flair in 1992 with Bret winning the Rumble and then going on to win the title at WMIX.
me too
have curt beat bret in some tags to cast a doubt as to who would win
@@EOTA564 I think Vince was concerned about Curt's back during that second run and never really did much to match the momentum he had during his earlier run.
@@crazyjim9380 it would have been a risk giving him the title in 1992 when he was just back from injury but from a storyline perspective it made more sense than Bret winning it at a house show. Bret winning the Rumble as an underdog that year would also have built some momentum for his first title run.
As it turned out, Hennig was fit enough to carry the title through to Mania and they put on a 5 star match at KOTR.
You can tell Bret Hart and Curt Henning had Great in ring chemistry
That Chemistry was Perfectly Executed
Brett is a class act, my favorite performer to hear stories from.
One great thing about Bret's generation is when they screwed up a move, they could quickly react like it was all part of the plan. Can today's wrestlers say the same?
“If you trip, make it part of the dance”
Today's guys can't even cut a promo without reading off a script
Back then every guy in the company had been seasoned for years just to earn their spot on the roster. Nothing was just given to them. It’s the exact opposite now days
Bret is way to freaking honest. Probably the only guy, you can tell you a story and how something went down
Not really... He tells a story holding his ego.
Bret''s career in the WWE was perfect, started as a single, went to a tag, had a taste of singles in 1988 and 1989 with Bad News Perfect, and DiBiase. Then another tag run with the belts. 1991 was the right move going vs Perfect 2nd with Bulldog going at him first, then winning the IC title and holding it for a while and then his 5 reigns as WWE Champion.
My only wish is that Bret lost the title to Austin at Wrestlemania 14 instead of HBK and Montreal at Survivor Series 1997 never happened. Bret had a great 10 year+ run in the WWE from 1986 through 1997, still a lot of what ifs that could have changed everything.
Yeah, a rematch with Bret and Steve at WM 14 for the title would've been epic.
Bret was the best
There is
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The best at crying
@@LionClaw865 somebody's Bitter and angry today
@@KnightsofCybertronReturns yes Bret 😂
Bruce had claimed to us during one of the Dungeon practices that there was actually piss in that bucket
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Perfect/Hart for the IC title is like my #2 match of all time. I love hearing stories like these, RIP Curt Hennig ❤
@@tomferguson9250 I loved that match,what was your first?
@@Jwjmcc The one almost everyone knows: Savage/Steamboat at WM3
Let’s be fair around Wrestlemania 4 bret definitely was not what was required on the mic,savage hogan roberts dibiese and Heenan with his guys all blew bret outta the water
On the microphone in terms of cutting promos, he was never what he needed to be. 1997 I guess but that’s only because he was dealing with a very real issue. He couldn’t fabricate himself into a good promo if his life depended on it. Bret I always thought would’ve been much better suited in real professional sports of some kind. Just go out there and you make your name on your ability alone. The other stuff like microphone skills, charisma, doesn’t really factor in.
@@dbreiden83080 who are you to doubt el dandy?
@@dbreiden83080you don't sound like a jam-up guy at all
Who the hell is dibiese?
It's DiBiase...
@@devinsmith7089 grow up, kid.
1:17 funny Bret says about being put back in tags “I think they felt I had no…(pause)” and I said charisma then Bret said “charisma”
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Roddy Piper told him if he wanted to make money in the business he learned to talk. He thought all you had to do was be a great wrestler. It's called sports entertainment bro. So Roddy Piper mentored him . And gave him the opportunity at the intercontinental belt putting him over taking the pin.
Piper really saved Bret's status
Bret Hart is top 5 greatest worker of all time, sometimes even in my number 1 spot. Bret is one of a very few that can get me invested in any match he's in. And Bret excelled at both singles and tag team wrestling, and as both a babyface and a heel. His only flaw is his mic work, but even there Bret had developed into a great talker by 1997, albeit this was in the final few years of his career.
He was not a good bad guy
@@shoeplayisbad1 Bret Hart was an excellent heel during the Hart Foundation's early tag team run in the 80s, and then also in 1997 with the Hart Foundation. He was also really good as the Hitman in WCW in his feud with Sting in 1998. But Bret was already checked out mentally by 1999.
@@Myrridan19 and that still doesn't make him the best
@@shoeplayisbad1 the question was best worker. Bret is up there in the top 5. I was just adding to the discussion by including other aspects of why Bret's a legend.
@@Myrridan19 legend sure
Not top 5 no
RIP Mr Perfect 👌 , My favourite wrestler! he'll always be my Champ ,Charisma ✅ ,Heat ✅ ,Attitude ✅ ,Mic Skills ✅ ,Perfect Wrestler ✅ !
I was born in 86 so i missed that prime hogan erra ..so to me growing up bret was hogan to me i remember waiting for his wcw arrival champing him hoping he would go nd shine but dam that didnt go the way i expected
It's not like to be frustrated about anything. Way to pull this gem out of him.
Bret Hart is the best at the art of pro wrestling in the ring. His matches are better than anything today because he made everything as if it was a shoot. Now when it comes to comedy or entertainment I love wrestling promos from various people, but in ring Bret us #1
Best my favorite Wrasler! Growing up!
I had been a fan of Bret's since those early matches with Perfect; still some of my all-time favorite matches. I'd just gotten into wrestling in '89, and while everyone was enamoured with Hogan and Warrior, I couldn't take my eyes off of what Bret and the Rockers were doing. Rented WM3 and told myself, "This is what wrestling should look like" whenever Bret was in the ring. When SummerSlam '91 happened, I REALLY didn't expect them to give Bret the belt. We'd seen the matches before, and every time I'd seen Bret in singles matches, it was like they had no respect for him or his character. Always felt like the company saw him at the same level as Koko B. Ware or Blue Blazer, for some reason. I was _ecstatic_ when he won the I-C belt that night. Knowing what we know about wrestling now, I shouldn't have been surprised by it, but back then... Ran and told my mom Bret had actually won the belt. She wasn't a big wrestling fan, but after sitting with me through live house show matches and some TV, she was equally surprised. 😂
It was also _highly_ satisfying a few years later when Bret and Shawn-two guys I'd been rooting on (along with Jannetty) while all my friends scoffed at the idea-were fighting over the world title.
I love Bret Hart.
Mr Perfect was so Perfect he didn't need a belt. His perfection transcended something as trivial as a belt. Mere material means nothing in the arms of perfection.
Seen him at a small time wrestling show in Kentucky Milwaukee about 15 years ago. The crowd chanted your not your brother.😮
We only have Bret's word to go by, in regard to receiving the most fan mail at that time, but it's believable. Bret & Steamboat were arguably the best-looking performers in the company back then. Both of them, Savage ( R.I.P. ), Hennig ( R.I.P. ), & The British Bulldogs were undeniably the best performers on the roster. The top stars, all big men, had 4 moves each. Even as a kid, you could tell that talents like Bret, Savage & others were the work horses. They were more exciting to watch! There was just something about Bret. He had this quiet charisma, just a cool vibe about his persona, & he was smooth & vicious in the ring, as the best technician. Arguably, the best ever, but his ego was his detriment, back then & today. In his dvd biopic a decade+ ago, he said of his match with Davey winning the IC belt at Wembley, "that match was really about me" . Bret has every right to be proud of his personal accomplishments & what he gave to & did for the business. He should take pride in knowing he elevated the art of pro wrestling. If he hasn't already though, therapy might give him peace of mind, to quell his bitterness.
First, Brett has typically been completely honest….. he answers what he’s asked without sugar coating…. People will call ppl fake when they sugar coat things, but then prove they need shit sugar coated by saying things like bitterness. Also, pretty sure you’d be bitter if you lost your health, and millions of dollars. Brett comes across as a real person and that’s about it.
Bret Hart wasn't ready in Wrestlemania 4. He wouldn't have fit in against Warrior, Hogan, Savage, Andre in 88.
It was too soon
X pac. 123 kid was amazing
Bret Hart being frustrated about something, now that's surprising
Right? 😂
Like you wouldn't be if you'd had the rug pulled from under your feet so many times...
Guess you're a hickenbottom fanboy.
So he didn't want to go over for Kurt but he'll wrestle Kurt if Kurt let him go over 😂ya that sounds about right
@@Flo-tha_A-because he had jobbed to him like 80 times prior. Of course, you omitted that fact.
@@aaronjackson9385so its okay for Brett to be that way, but when Shawn feels the same way for jobbing for Brett hundreds of times its bad
As a super honest person myself this is what I respect about Bret Hart, he's very honest, or at least his stories line up, the Owen/Doink story is actually in his book, I read it not too long ago.
Why didn’t Kurt get pushed to world CHAMP at WWF or and WCW?
Back injury. Plus hogan didn't want to do a run with perfect when hogan was on top
@@GamingNewsIn60that's wrong
Hogan did do a run with him but hogan is the best ever and Vince was not going to put title on henning
@shoeplayisbad1 no dude. They done a house show loop. The TV stuff never came to anything. Hogan is definitely not the best. Perfect would have been a great champ in 92 or 93 had his back not been injured
@GamingNewsIn60 no way he was a draw like Hogan or even Warrior for that brief period during the height of the Warrior. And Vince didn't really like having heel champions
@@cutekanjii no one was a draw like hogan wa3
Mr perfect was amazing.He deserved five world title riens.
I watch Bret Hart highlights he is so underrated dude was a technician the best I have ever seen goated ❤
Kurt was the perfect worker. Almost every interview I've seen said Kurt was a night off. That's a hell of a compliment.
3 people who shouldve been world champ: rick rude, kurt henning, and razor ramon
My favorite match of bret was against curt henning. When he won he tore off his singlet and draped it over his shoulder and i thought that was AWESOME. It was a statement. I as a kid i took it as "you arent perfect"! I loved that match.
Imagine the power Owen wielded when he said "I'll rib you for the rest of your life". That's a powerful threat coming from Owen.
Bret Hart complaining? I am shocked. Shocked, I tell you.
It's amazing how these stories change & merge. Going into WrestleMania 4 Bret was getting more fan mail than anyone? Bullshit.
This is the story he's told after Hogan went to WCW. Now it's going into WrestleMania 4. More fan mail over Hogan? Savage? Elizabeth? I'm calling bullshit.
1988, I totally agree it is BS.
Not the first time I heard the story. I'm trying to remember where I first heard it, but it was out there for awhile. Has to be some truth to it because there was no good reason to break up the Hart Foundation in 1988. Plus he finally got some merchandise the following year (the metallic 1.0 version of the shades). Great in the ring, eh on promos at the time, so I think the WWF was right to put him back in tags.
I agree but what he should have said is that his fan mail as a tag wrestler had increased exponentially and that put the idea in Vince's mind to try him out on his own with Neidhart. When they realized he had zero charisma on the mic...which never really got better btw...he was put back with Neidhart. It wasn't until Hogan was leaving and they were focusing on the younger talent after the steroid trials that he got a push for real.
@@TheKidyoung24 I wouldn't say he's lying. There could've been a one week or one month stretch where it actually happened. Kind of like how a midcard guy can get the largest pop of the night for a small window of time. Personally I'm glad they killed the singles run. I think it was more important to get Bad News Brown and Mr. Perfect over in 88 and 89 respectively (Savage and Hogan needed opponents) and both of those guys were far more ready for that spotlight. We also got a great run with the Hart Foundation as faces.
"Doing a job at the start of my singles run would totally ruin it."
"How about Bulldog instead?".
"That's perfect because his singles run is just getting started."
Classic Bret.
Yeah he is a bit of a man child, refusing to drop the belt in Montreal was ridiculous and everyone knows it. EVERYONE drops when they are on the way out.
That's typical Brat Hart.
He says push like 1000 times 😂
I'm a big Bret Hart fan and I defend him any Montreal Screwjob conversation because I do think he got screwed BIG time and he should have been able to sue vince for breach of contract, libel, all kinds of hostile workplace stuff... But to sit here and say he got no push when he got to wear the heavyweight title several times is kinda ridiculous. He certainly got some push. Might not have been what he wanted but he certainly didn't get nothing...
Nobody could sell like Mr Perfect
I hope he's found happiness in his life. Truly a fantastic worker who never seemed to have an ulterior motive in his career. Too prideful? maybe. But people never have a bad thing to say about him other than how bitter he is.
i know bret probably resented it but i think it worked out best for him. in '89 he wasn't really read for a singles push. think who were the main event guys (hogan, savage, piper, andre, etc) bret would've had a tough time staking out his claim to be better than those guys in the eyes of the fans at that period....2-3 years later was a big difference though
4 years at the most
for 80's kids - The Hitman was our best worker. That's what made the HF so a great time. The best teams are balanced and they were PERFECTLY balanced... but as a single's competitor it took a WHILE for Bret to learn how to talk. That's why thy NEEDED Jimmy. Just look at the ld SNME's...jesus bret can barely string 3 words together and make them interesting... and at THIS TIME when he's speaking about he'd already been in wwe for a few years and in comes Perfect and he's pretty damn dynamite on the stick - he didn't really even need Bobby in that sense. So mike work wise, Curt BLEW Bret out of the water. I always think Bret is the biggest Bret mark anyways... I just watched his promo lead in to KOTR 94 and the fans are chanting RAZOR as he's speaking lol... and it's CLEARLY fucking with his head cuz Vince is trying but Bret's interview is mediocre then Razor comes on the screen and just OWNS him lol.
Bret Hart is my all time favorite, but I disagree with him here. He wasn't it in 1988/1989.
Bret Hart is the greatest in ring performer of all time
Tag team wrestling is more fun to watch than singles
He was a good wrestler
Seen Brett and Kurt wrestle in Wildwood NJ and they stole the show … 30 min time limit and fans screamed 5 more minutes for over 10 minutes!
Bret while an amazing worker never really was a big draw. Vince for obvious reasons was always going to be looking elsewhere because he knew Bret wasn’t gonna draw him serious money.
Yeah the years he was champ were super duper lean, they were doing like 1300 people a show it got so bad. As a kid I loved brett but I wasn't spending money on anything
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Bret always seemed to confuse ring work with drawing. He thought because he was so great in the ring he should be at the top. The X factor in terms of charisma he never had. This is the first time I heard him act stubborn about his promos. He was a bad promo. He knew it.. Only in 97 when he was genuinely pissed off at Vince/Shawn etc was he any good at promos..
"He's an animal!" An animal an animal!!!"
Ive seen this before, are you just reposting old stuff to get new views?
Wish curt was here 😢
Perfect came in and in a matter of a few years, his back was shot
He had already been wrestling and taking bumps since the early 80s in the AWA with his father Larry "the Axe." His first role in wrestling wasn't in the WWF. Plus don't forget all the sports he played in his life....he was a great all around athlete so it makes sense his back took a beating over the years. A back isn't something to mess with...and it doesn't take much to mess it up bad. Many career injuries are back related.
Brett promos were good, he just didn't do the shouty turned up to 11 from start to finish. By the time he got done with his IC run he was as legit as anyone.
Take a shot everytime he says big push.
I'm a big Btet Hart fan but I think he really started coming into his own with his feuds with Owen Lawler and Austin and him really brought eachother to the next level Bret was always great in the ring and he helped Austin go from very very good to great but Austin did the same with him as charsima and mic skills which Austin was a natural look at him as Stunning Steve or his work in the Hollywood Blonds I remeber thinking Austin Vader Fliar and Sting were the guys working with Hogan when he came into the company but Hogan came in they thankfully got rid of Austin sadly ruined the Vader rivalry but wcw really shit the bed with Austin Vader the Steiners cause of heard and Flair pillman Cactus Jack and Dustin but it worked out that 96 and 97 war with Austin and Hart and Hart and HBK every talks about how much better Bret made Austin but Austin was gonna be a star either Way Bret did make him the biggest star in wrestling history but Aidtin brought the bedt out of Harts mic work charercter work gave him a guy that he up his in and out of the ring work with go back and watch Bret before he returned in 96 and watch the stuff he did with Austin and afterwards one of the best feuds in the history of wrestling during that feud it was clear Bret was still the top guy and Austin was the future before that feud it looked like the future was now and it was HBK
Never knew tag was for the guys they didn’t like. 😂😂😂😂
Bret takes so much responsibility fot himself in this as he always he never blames anyone else.
Except Goldberg
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Yeah, when its that blatant lol
I have to disagree and I was a huge Bret fan during his early tag days. Brets interviews are always about him and how he deserved this is and that and was screwed all the time. He does have legitimate arguments when it comes to Hogan or Goldberg etc but most of the time it's bogus selfish claims.
@@TheKidyoung24
Funny that mostly everyone that knows him agrees with him. Even most of his enemies.
@@TheKidyoung24 he never said he didn't have a point but he is part of his own life and the things that happen he has to take some responsibility for his life I can't recall a time where he said this was my fault
Bret put up with a lot of crap when he went into singles...
Tons of politicking! He did everything he was supposed to do to EARN the title...
Glad he got his 🌹 and had a solid run.. one of the best in WWF/WWE history.. 1997 was a great year for Bret! Then it all went to crap in Montreal...
Then he left and made a ton of 💸 💰 in WCW... Goldberg..
😠 😡 🤬.. reckless Bill!
And here we sit
Great wrestler. Depressing dude.
Bret did get that push but it was a process.
❤
i like bret but to me he shpuld have been a transitional champion--i always thought razor should have gotten the push
Vince McMahon should have tried you as a single wrestler sooner
Why didn’t Kurt get pushed to world CHAMP at WWF or and WCW?
Yeah that’s right Bret. It’s just like any job. Hey you promised me a promotion ? Damn it I’m ready.
Office Staff: You’re not all the way ready. You still gotta work on your customer service skills lol
Hogan had the upper card on lock when Kurt was there. So it wasn't happening
A push doesn’t have to mean mean world champ, especially when Hogan is there. it means like a Role Ricky Steamboat had when Hogan was on top (which Bret was definitely qualified for) he was a great babyface. You can’t tell me Ricky Steamboat was a grrat moc worker either (if anything Bret may have actually been better in the mic than him). Babyfaces just needed to win some matches, and not come across as an asshole or unlikeable in those days.
Kurt was a great talker (which in turn made him a great heel), he wasn’t quite the same as a babyface (he was always hurt at that point too.
Think Brets coming at it from the angle he was promised a big push then goes on to lose.
@@garrymclaughlan6433 that’s exactly what I’m comparing it to. You ever work a job where you’re promised a “push” or promotion but it doesn’t fall through. They don’t follow through. They give excuses.
@@ezj9103 yeah been there, through no fault of my own, change of mind at the very last second.
Bret’s brains are scrambled. He skipped over 4 years of his career
Bret the markman hart
4:55 Its a work think one of Bret's downfalls theyre testing him. Mr Perfect was such a great worker and thats how you get over. Something felt off in WWE then when he went to WCW you could tell Bret just didnt have the promo skills which imo isn't bad you can hide it
Curt set up Jacques to get hit by the Dynamite Kid by playing cards with him.
Super telling of what type of person Jacques is that he's quite literally been telling that story for about 15 years now. You'd think he'd have gotten tired of it by now. And yet it's almost all he talks about.
@@UMAMIMAMUit’s no surprise because Dynamite was a well known bully so no surprise people want to hear the story where Dynamite got beat up
But nobody blame curt hennig who started everything
Does Brett have any positive things to say about his career??? 😂😂😂
Short answer: No
Brat Hart always whining
Bret ended up becoming a pretty decent talker. He just wasn't good at doing those 80's style promos because he didn't have an over the top personality. The back and fourth stuff he was doing with Shawn in the 90's was really good though.
I got Bret Hart ranked number two.1 Shawn Michaels 2 Bret Hart as best in ring wrestlers/workers 3 Ricky Steamboat.4 Undertaker 5 Chris Jericho 6 AJ Styles 7 Kurt Angle 8 Curt Hennig 9 Dean Malinko 10 Terry Funk 11 Dusty Rhodes 12 Sting 13 Stone Cold Steve Austin 14 Marty Jennette 15 Triple H 16 Haku 17 John Cena 18 Batista 19 The Rock 20 Scott Hall 21 Booker T 22 Tully Blanchard 23 Randy Orton,24 Macho Man Randy Savage 25 Andre the giant.Honorable mention and I believe the greatest of all time Nature Boy Ric Flair.Greatest wrestler 1a Ric Flair 1b HBK Shawn Michaels.Hulk Hogan should also be on this list.Hulk could really wrestle but his great technical matches were early first couple of years his work in Japan, and his AWA work.
does he ever not wine and cry about his career? bret acts like this business is real
Are you hating today stop the cap 🧢 your the one lying
They were testing him and he clearly wasn't ready then. They arent real matches. Screw the confidence thing. There wasnt a monday night raw back then, nobody saw anything that happened the night before. Who cares? But Bret likes to make up stories in his head.
Bret is the best complainer. Good wrestler but man he whines all the time.
What is it with pro wrestling and poodle hair ?
He won just about every available title multiple times. Why does he always talk like he was squashed or ruined every step of the way? When I was a kid, I thought angry Bret was the heel character he created, but it turns out that angry Bret was his default mode.
Snippet of a discussion talking about his 1988 push initially and what it took to finally get his singles career going. Should he not discuss it if he's asked?
bum
Bret Hart had ZERO mic skills!
Does he do anything except complain?
I heard a rumour that he sleeps ocasionally.
Do you watch whole videos?
@joeywrestling complaining about what are you trolling today 😅
Really wish you all would stop with the click bait titles
It's not?
@@joeboggio4002 idiot alert ⚠️
Wrestlemania 4, getting the most fan letters in the company? This guy is delusional.
Why is Bret always mad??
Don't get me wrong Bret was a good wrestler but nearly every interview he complains about being held back from being great or how things should've gone a certain way blaming others etc.
He seems really bitter 😐
Look at what happened to his family and closest friends in wrestling, and at how his career ended. You would be bitter too, under those circumstances.
Bret's made a career of doing these thousands of shoot interviews and making millions of dollars these past several decades complaining about the same stuff.
@Myrridan19 that would be understandable and believable if the night after Over the Edge Bret had walked away from the business. He chose not to. So he wasn't blaming "the business" while collecting a check. Hell even after all the drugs took Davey Bret still wrestled. So he didn't blame Daveys drug use on "the business".
Bret openly admits he resents Goldberg for ending his career because it is what keeps him from getting in on the WWE Saudie money. He wishes he could still be in the business.
So that alone tells us he isn't bitter over Owen or Bulldogs death. Sad? Sure. Mad? You bet.
His bitterness is only fueled by money. Hes said as much.
@@nathanpritchard5114 you can read minds? Wow, that's impressive. What am I thinking of now?
Just search Bret Hart buries the world. Greatest RUclips video ever
I love Bret, but does he really think he should have been in the main event against Hogan at Wrestlemania 6 or 7 ? LOL !!!!! That must be some concussion based delusion right there. Ultimate Warrior was pushed because of merchandise sales and Hogan needing the summer off in 1990 to do a movie. Ultimate Warrior was always going to lose the title when Hogan returned. He didn't fail as champion, he was booked as a filler and nothing more. NO ONE sold merchandise like Warrior. Does Bret really think he should have won the title in Canada from Hogan ??? Good grief, such revisionist history from a delusional Hitman.
But you can't get Warrior beaten clean like the year prior at Wrestlemania
@@lexkanyima2195 I'm not sure what you're saying - warrior was never beaten clean at all really. Bret thinks HE should have taken the title from Hogan in Canada at Wrestlemania. That sounds crazy for 1990. Warrior merch sold and Hogan was out for the summer. That's the reasoning behind Warrior beating Hogan
@Norma-uc8dy the build up I mean. And for Wrestlemania 7, Bret was not still there yet
Bret is really full of himself I doesn't like to people over like they do for him I met him a while ago to get his autograph never looked me in the eye I can't belive I took the day off from work to see him I got a better conversation from the nitro girls who were there next to him he's a narcissist.
Let me guess Goldberg stopped his big push? Lol
Is Bret crying again ?
Narcissist
It’s fake Bret! Jesus Christ. You would think he would get it by now
Politicking is, or at least was, a huge part of being successful in wrestling. Only a few guys have ever gotten over as huge stars without politicking, and that was only because the booker/owner chose to strap a rocket ship to them. Even Hulk Hogan himself spent much of his career politicking so that he would remain strong and viewed as a top star... And it worked. Same with Austin. Even HBK, whom Vince adored, still spent his career politicking for his own benefit.
If you get into pro wrestling, this is just something you need to do if you want to be a big success.
@@Myrridan19 negotiating is apart of Politicking too, and Bret wanted everyone to put him over. Hulk Hogan could be like that because he’s the reason why the industry went mainstream… and he was also 6’7 at one point. That’s not good for business for a guy that’s barely 6’0 to beat everyone by putting them in a sharp shooter. Bret ego was and always the problem, he only speaks highly of those who kiss his ass.
@@enriquestewart5762 do you feel the same way about HBK? Or no?
He does, but he's the son of a promoter he grew up in the business and was the last generation that protected the business keyfabe and all that.
@@Myrridan19 No because Shawn is a different person. All Shawn wanted to do was get high and party back then. The only person I’ve heard Shawn not wanting to put over was Bret and I don’t blame him. Hart believes he’s the main character and everyone else is the supporting cast.
Every story he is whining about not being the fake champion