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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2020
- Pilot arc conversion can it be done ? With my plasma cutter pilot arc mod i don't know if it makes it a true pilot arc machine but certainly helps when your trying to start plasma cutting dirty or rusty steel. As trying to get your arc started is not so easy on used old steel.If you are buying a machine for the first time i would recommend the pilot arc plasma cutter over the non pilot arc because the cost is not much more but you get more functionality. I use this hf conversion pilot arc just to start a cut then just go back to normal hf as i find the wire will get to hot if used for full time cutting .
I don't recommend you do it like this as all types of machines are different all i know is it work on my plasma cutter.
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That is awesome Pete thanks you just answered all my questions, no bullshit hacks thats perfect
Cool thanks
Genius, I am having problems with the CNC dying on HF start ...will definitely try that tomorrow!, Thanks a lot
Great
Hey do you have an update on this? Did it workout?
Thanks Pete! I have an Amico box which has a ground bolt on the back. I've wondered for a while now what would happen if I bought a pilot arc torch and just connected the ground lead for the torch to the ground bolt on the box, extending the wire a bit if it doesn't reach. Going to buy a torch now that you've shown me how it's done. Need to cut some painted barrels. Plasma is cheaper than using gas which is what I'm using now.
Right on
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So how did this work out for you? I'd really like to know.
I like this idea as need to sort a new torch anyway, think ill chuck a micro switch in so can be used when needed.....then again the contactor seems to be hit but could be related to the torch.
I will have to check out your site
Good idea
Thx Pete, great stuff.
Question. I have a pilot arc torch and a non pilot plasma cutter. I notice that the consumables on the pilot arc torch are different than the ones on the non pilot torch. I presume that the full 40 amps that I set on the machine will pass through the modified ground wire on the pilot torch and start the arc before the torch tip touches the metal to be cut. If I drag the tip over the rusty metal most of the current will be passing through the electrode directly to the work piece and very little through the modified ground wire. If the torch was stood off a little will the modified ground wire continue to supply the arc current or will the electrode supply the current to create the arc if the electrode to workpiece was about 1/16 in? The modified ground wire would sure get hot if it had to carry the full 40 amps during the entire cut.
Also, the consumables on the pilot arc torch would not last too long if they had to be dragged over the metal.
What do you think?
Thanks mate
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Glad you enjoyed it
Hi Pete Tom in Scotland, I did your hot wire up for the Plasma cutter and it works just fine.
I am getting on well with projects now that I have a cut 50. I can do 5mm plate on 40 amps and psi at 60psi or 70 it works just fine what a clean cut. very little grinding.
I am now working on how to put a video on to you tube to compliment your tips. Take care. Auld Tom. Ayr Scotland.
Hi tom did you get your video done? Give me a link and i will put it in the description of mine if you like?
wow, i learned a lot from this guy. watched a bunch of your videos and a bunch of the ads as well to support your channel. lol. I just inherited a Thermal Dynamics Pak 50 with no torch. After watching a few of your videos, i'm getting confident to retrofit other torches to it. Any advice to do it, or not a good idea?
I appreciate that! I would try a p-80 torch they are cheap to buy and run 60% chance it would work .WORTH A TRY ANYWAY
Pete will a self repairing fuse in between the green line not protect the torch by only allowing pilot arc for couple seconds just to start before tripping the fuse?
Scared the little green wire will take full amps and burn, or will power always jump to bigger clamp wire
Sounds like a plan mate. Try it
Brilliant. Thanks
Glad you liked it!
What if you run your ground wire down torch cable and clamp to ground (like use a Dinse with ground prong that they use for Lift TIG) at machine?
Hi ,Try it mate
Hey Pete! This may be an ignorant question but can a regular torch on a pilot arc machine? Mine is pilot arc and I was just wondering.
Yep should work ,but wont be pilot arc
cheers pete
Excellent wow👍
lol
i was wondering if you just could replace the white ring inside with a copper ring ???
no because ceramic doesn't conduct electricity
Hi Pete, Another very informative video. I'm just about to purchase a Chinese 55 am but not sure if the pilot arc version would be less reliable than the touch start. I could buy the touch start machine and do your gun trick for the few times I need to cut rusty or painted material. Or do I just buy the pilot arc version? Do you consider that the pilot arc models could have more issues? Also, can you suggest the best low-budget machine for the home workshop, please?
Well done mate. Cheers
Hi ray i would buy a pilot arc
Hola amigo hasta la fecha te anduvo bien ese método de poner el cable a la masa ? Para cread arco piloto ?
Gracias por tu comentario y buena suerte con tu soldadura.
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Thank you so much 😀
Cool thanks
Any time!
Add relay to shutdown the pilot arc connect it to the hv hf relay it shuts down the arc is initiated or add reed switch and relay to turn of the pilot arc
cool
Pete, do you think we can convert a HF plasma ( by removing the HF starter) and adding a blowback torch?
No I wouldn't
I'm thinking of doing the same, have you tried it ?
Could you add a link to buy both torches you used in this video? Thanks bud!
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P 80 Torch Plasma Cutting Torch : amzn.to/3k9skgW
Hi Pete can you show construction of a mig / plasma torch holder and cutting guides for straight cuts etc
Regards
Paul
sounds like a good idea
Maybe run thicker gauge temporary permanent ground and use a small clamp on tip. So it lowers resistance allowing you not have to drag tip?
Good tip!
Going to get a plasma cutter tiered of grinders and saws .
Stay safe
You wont go back Paul
cheers pete
pete's tools no doubt I’ve used them a lot never owned one but my lucks bout to change lol .just now got done cutting piece of metal with cut off wheel man I hate but what can do thanks I let u know what I get be few weeks
Ok. Отлично придумал пилотную дугу! (RUS)
спасибо за просмотр, друг
are these torches designed to be used as drag tip torch consumables ??!!
No stand off guide torches
I want to attach 5v relay to control my Torch, but the 5v relay I have is 10amps,
But my Plasma is 40amps,how can I connect with Relay and use on CNC
cnc is not really my thing sorry
@@petestoolsno issues sir, thank you
You can use the 10A relay on the control circuit. It isn't using 40a to start the torch that is a separate circuit
What are the draw backs to doing this?
Hi some machines don't like it
Enjoyed. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it
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Great video, wish I binged watched them all, before burning up all my consumables waiting for delivery... Ha ha, Wooo weee.
Question, thinking of buying a pilot ark gun for non pilot, cut 50. Is that the way to go for cutting welds? Thank you
I'm curious why the earth wire in pilot wire harness, would not get hot as well? In theory, coiling the tip would be same as wired at machine... unless it is inverted in the gun??? Hmmmm.
Yea should work for cutting welds BUT I DOES GET HOT.
cheers pete
@@petestools Thank you sir. Learning a lot about these suckers from your videos. All the best, Oregon, US
that explain alot
cool
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Hi. Are you have whatsapp contact? I have pilot arc problem.
no sorry don't use it . pete@petes-tools.com