If you want another indicator on the image being AI, the lightbulbs are all wrong. The lighting elements are all floating on nothing, and one of the lightbulbs is just an actual mess inside of it.
@@Buttersaemmel You're correct about the contraction; the word they're looking for is spelled "their" (no e at the end). English can be messy when you're trying to spell it.
I have also heard of Kindle Direct Publishing-published books on mushrooms that state that poisonous ones are safe to eat... (Well that comes in addition to the number of people pretending that their AI-written stuff is really by some famous author.)
I find it hilarious when they said "nonono, this was made by *humans*!" and yet refuse to credit the supposed "human" artists. If an artpiece from a large corporation looks scuffed and suspiciously looks like AI and or there's zero credit for the ppl who made said artpiece, chances are its most likely AI
To be fair.... they will avoid crediting artists if given the chance. So many companies at this point fit that bill, that I can't even remember which one it was that recently that stopped crediting book artwork, and won't even make pubic the names of their staffed artists. I think 45/45 between WotC and GamesWorkshop, and 10% it was someone else.
Proper artists do, just like with Blender etc. You can use AI for rough drafts and color composition, and 3D modeling to create the shapes of environments (like f.e. Neytirix) - and then the real work of drawing/painting begins. AI is a tool, in more ways than one. =P
They know the laws in the US are slower than a dead snail when it comes to be updated or passed. So it's pretty obvious that they're abusing the A.I. programs as much as possible right now before they eventually can't.
@@Soliye. I'm so glad it's going to flop very soon for them. If people can't work properly nowadays, with properly related to worse and worse working conditions from income to job stability and available positions etc, then they WONT keep consuming/ Why? Because they CAN'T AFFORD TO CONSUME.
As an artist, this breaks my heart. I only JUST got into MTG last year to play with some friends. I adored the art and had a little dream of "maybe one day my work could be on here" and this is what they do? Wacom? Omfg, I never owned one. I use XP Pen (which also had to backtrack and make a public apology over an ai promo thing). You make the exact point of how tf are they gonna stay in business which is FOR ARTISTS to just give their said audience the middle finger like this? I am seeing SO MANY posts of artists giving up this year. I know I'm no pro. I'm self taught, but damn, I have busted my butt to learn and grow. I feel like I landed in the absolute *worst* timing to get back into my art bc of this AI crap. I am glad though that so many are talking about this and spreading awareness. Thank you Callum for making this video and calling these companies out.
No, the worst timing is for veteran artists, who are not quite to retirement age and will suddenly have to find a completely different set of skills to draw on, just to start over in an entry level job to support their families. At least young artists have the chance to change paths and find something else they can grow as a career. Until machines take that too...
I absolutely love playing mtg with my friends, but wotc has been so anti consumer(and now anti employee) that i started making my own high quality proxies. It's so much fun, and i get to play the game i live again without supporting these ceo's
Corporations dont want "artists", they want menial, backbreaking labor. Art is too freeing and healthy. They want despair, hopelessness, to keep you oppressed
I don’t know much about the mechanics of AI, but I do digital art. AI consistently has issues with flowing lines and repeated straight lines. Windows are never consistent, bookshelves always have books merging into each other, and cloth typically flows into and around itself. Symmetry is nearly always lost in architecture, and trees will have branches coming out of nowhere. These are things that artists have to consciously think about as we draw, but an AI will just make something up.
Whats so frustrating is that they literally chose the worst community to try and pull this off. MTG, Dungeons and Dragons etc, there fanbases are some of the most creative and loyal you can imagine. D&D is still making millions from its loyal fans who choose to buy the new books etc, even through you could literally just download from online or just make up your own. The fanbase adores Dungeons and Dragons and WOTC used to love them back. But since HASBRO bought them it's fucking L after L. HASBRO has no idea what makes WOTC special and I just hope they sell them or they become independent
Wizards of the Coast is going to end up independent within a couple of years at the rate Hasbro is going. Their current status is listed as Neutral on the Stock Market due to a lot of debt. They currently don't have enough cash for dividends, and a lot of their other products aren't selling.
Same with Huion, XPPen, and Wacom. They just remove all sense of my brand loyalty in a week. I just buy the cheapest drawtab I see right now, I don't care who are they partnering with nor how official they are. They are dead to me.
When I was a kid, I couldn't play the game for shit, but I loved collecting cards for the ART. I became a fan of DiTerlizzi and Kaja and Phil Foglio. I traded a few choice game cards so I could get more Phil Foglio cards from the Unglued deck.
Those 80% that can't tell it's AI are probably also the most susceptible to marketing, nor do they care that artists are being replaced by AI to allow the CEO to upgrade his yacht. It's a bit like those scam emails that deliberately mispell things to weed out the people who are intelligent and observant enough to not fall for a scam.
It's the background of a promo image. I don't know if anyone would care about it at all if it was human made. These "visual containers" occupy milliseconds of attention for most people. Why should the common person care? If it was the card art itself, something that would at least be commonly observed then I guess it'd be important. But this?
@@zenko4187 If they thought people didn't care then they would have said it was an A.I. image from the start, instead of trying to pass it off as human-made.
@@zenko4187 did you miss the part where WotC declared with their whole chest that they wouldn't be using AI, and then literally did? we're not necessarily annoyed at the fact that it's AI generated art, rather, the problem is - simply put - they fired a bunch of their staff who used to do this work, made a claim that they were against AI, then turned around and used AI anyway. even if we assume their cover story is true, that just means they're not interested in proven quality, and they just want to reduce costs by hiring unvetted freelancers and doing no substantial quality checks - so long as it fools or appeals to that 80%, that's all that matters. that, and the fat stacks of cash they think they can save by pulling this BS. and it seems this isn't something YOU care about, but for many people, the "principle of the thing" IS important. to many people, whether or not a human being had their hand in a work of art DOES matter, no matter how many "milliseconds" are spent paying attention to it. i personally like admiring promo art if it looks good, because i like to appreciate artistic choices made by the human being behind it. as an artist myself, i learn a lot from what i observe in the art of others, but there's nothing to learn from AI generated garbage. now you might say, "but the AI is learning from real artists!", and wordage aside, that's technically true - but it also means AI is gobbling up the mistakes in equal measure to everything else. learning from AI art is no better than tracing someone else's work. you're uncritically repeating whatever mistakes were made by the original hand(s), with no understanding of what actually makes something "good" or "bad". honestly, this comment - "i don't know if anyone would care about it at all if it was human made" - is a bit laughable considering you're commenting on a video, featuring people who care whether or not it's human made, watched largely by an audience who cares whether or not it's human made. you "don't know" if anyone would care? read the comments. maybe watch the video again. THERE are your people who care. i could go into so many other reasons *why* more people should care about this, reasons beyond "the principle of the thing", but i don't have the time, nor the inclination, but i'm certain there are many video essays and articles online from people more involved in these spaces who could better educate you, anyway. assuming your question isn't rhetorical, that is... and i'm not convinced it isn't, frankly. but i'd like to be wrong, and if so, i do encourage you to find the answer to that question by talking to people who do care, and finding out why. it's just a thought.
For some reason, they decided to make a commitment to zeor usage of AI in all of their products. That's why they tried to hide it. Hasbro/WoTC sucks, I'm not up for defending them. I'm just saying that this use of AI is entirely reasonable.@@Solibrae
That time it was the particular artist being a disgrace, and their art director failing to catch it (which is a shame, but ADs do get overworked sometimes, so I can only assume it was a mix of trusting the artist and not being attentive at the time).
For MTG artists, there's another aspect to this: every time WOTC fails to uphold the 'no AI' rule, it invites a bunch of people who don't quite have the eye to discern what is AI and what isn't to loudly accuse artists of having used it. Not only AI rips off our work and pollutes art communities with endless spam that nukes the discoverability of actual artists in spaces that were already famously oversaturated before all this nonsense, but now we also have that extra burden of proving that yes actually, we did make the art we do, and heaven forbid some of the brush strokes came out a little funny in the end.
Regarding the firings, that was Hasbro, the parent company that forced those firings. The problem is higher ups purely looking at numbers and not considering why those numbers are what they are. They cut all departments, even the ones that are profitable (I.e.: WotC).
WotC isn't free of scrutiny in all this. They've done some pretty awful stuff, going all the way back to the early 00's. The last few years have just been especially heinous
Remember when we were told "" AI "" would replace horrible factory jobs and backbreaking labor so humans could focus on creative and self-fulfilling things? *Sigh.* Also, this makes me glad I'm a Huion user because Jazza back in 2018 recommended the Huion Kamvas 13 pro in one of his videos. Glad I stayed away from Wacom. EDIT: Found out Huion has literal image generation courses on how to steal other people's art. Don't support them either, I know I won't be buying from them again.
Someone said "We thought AI would free us from labor so we could pursue creative endevors, instead AI frees us from creativity so we can focus on labor."
That’s because they create an AI that can actually do that, it takes such an enormous amount of complexity that we just cannot yet reach, it’s not even a matter of cost yet, it’s a matter of technology. Automation has still over the generations vastly reduced the amount of factory jobs and backbreaking labor, but you can’t just “AI” it away
I never truly believed in that. It made no sense that we have the highest population in the history of mankind and yet all of the mundane jobs were going to be done by Ai. What are most people going to do for money? Most people don't have the talent/aptitude/passion for this kind of stuff.
Worst thing i spotted was in the AI generated music video for Iron Lung by King Gizzard. At one moment, i went, wait a minute, now this really does look like Frank Frazetta. I remembered his fantasy art and that was the style. Upon closer inspection, i noticed the AI also tried to fake and include the signature. I mean, what do all original Frank Frazetta paintings in this particular style also have in common? His signature in the bottom right corner. So the AI tried to emulate it. Then i went a bit deeper into that particular rabbithole, and the whole video is littered with botched attempts to also fake include the signature of the artist being plagiarized in that moment.
If the AI's parameters aren't set properly (and they surely won't be when you have a greedy CEO), the AI will just replace the CEO and you have either singularity or killbot hellscape.
I think one of the oddest parts of this is that they used AI to design the room that the cards were in, and not just the art on the cards like we were probably expecting them to do. Fake cards in a real room? No, no... real cards in a fake room!
Man, I remember in a college philosophy class (~15 years ago), where an art student said that artists could never be replaced by machines because machines cannot make "art". Which is true in regards to machines not having the meaning, message, or creative process behind making a piece, but today we're seeing that most people don't need those aspects for an image to be considered "art". It's wild how far and fast things have gone and are going.
it's scary, the whole point of automation was to make people do less work and have more time to do art or meaningful things, and yet it's being used to destroy the fun things in life
i mean, the idea of what is Art has been shifting for a long time now. a banana duct taped to dry wall is now "art" but only really because someone says it is.
@J-wm4ss the point of automation is so the big wigs can get as much labor as possible by paying as little as possible. Those at the top of a capitalist system will always be looking for ways to continue gaining wealth while extracting every bit they can from everywhere and everyone else. The idea that automation would improve the day to day life of the everyday person is primarily a romantic and optimistic point of view (and I agree with it) but it won't happen unless action is taken.
Wacom specifically infuriates me. It's insane for them to expect artists, the people most harmed by image generating AI to a) not notice their clearly AI generated marketing material and/or b) not care that they are blatantly endorsing this harmful practice.
The reason you were able to predict that is because that's almost EXACTLY what Wizards of the Coast did when called out for using AI in their D&D books. They put out a bundle of excuses about how the art was submitted before they knew AI was bad and didn't think to check and on and on. Wizards has an ongoing AI art problem and instead of taking a critical look and adapting to the situation they trip over their feet again and again, blaming the "artists" that submit generated assets and putting out feel-good statements about how they totally don't allow it.
Anyone wanna place bets on how long it takes them to start using AI art again? I'm guessing one month until they're caught with their pants down again while insisting on twitter that people just don't know the difference between pants and bare ass cheeks.
As a long time Magic the Gathering player (94) coming back in 2023 this will have me quit right away If they start using AI generated Art on the Cards. One of the biggest reasons I got back was collecting some of the arts I missed. 😤
Notice that MTG said twice in two different posts literally "create FINAL Magic products". FINAL, so they allow using AI in anything besides the finalizing the last image on the pipeline.
Also don't forget the 30th anniversary where they sold proxies for a grand. That really pissed me off. They should have made those packs dirt cheap and made them legal to play for a short time.
Best thing that could happen is for "Training Data" to be viewed in law as copyright infringement without the consent of the owner of said work. Being able to mimic a style requires getting trained on that persons work. I stilp believe the best place for generative AI is as an artists personal assistant, being fed only the owners personal work to speed up concepting and allow for ideas to bounce around without the time commitment of manually sketching every thought an artist has.
what you're saying is a best case scenario, but let's be honest seen under copyright law this is transformative and with that most probably fair use. not trying to defend it just saying what i think would be a logical conclusion.
@@Buttersaemmel transformativity on its own isn't enough for fair use. You need to depict no greater a portion of the original work than is necessary to make the point of your own work, and in any case your final product must not function as a replacement of the work you included (which is a big part of why a lot of react content is not fair use). I would expect the position of AI training as to the former of these two tests to be almost impossible to define, and the latter to be controversial at least.
Hey Callum! Great video and I like how you added the other camera angle. I have one suggestion from *my* point of view, though. Don't look at the viewer/camera when you do the other camera angle.. it appears awkward. Basically, just use it only when you are still talking facing forward and maybe only look at it very rarely to highlight an important point while zooming in on your face for comedic/entertainment value. It will have a much better effect if you do it that way and add to the seriousness/entertainment value of the content. It seems that other channels that focus on the dialogue do it that way and it feels more natural. At any rate, nice video!
This was literally everything I was afraid of. Video game box art being made with AI. Comic books, written and drawn by AI. Literally anything to do with talent or creative endeavors, done by AI. Dungeon-Mastering will be filled by AI roles with modules and source material using AI renditions. Our favorite things we have ever loved are in danger of becoming templated formats in a file-tree, repackaged and resold.
Very good way to tell ai from actual art or photoshopped images it rising the saturation. When saturated ai images have a lot of weird pixelated artifacts that don't show up in normal art. The pixels usually appear in background or on edges of the foreground objects. If you're not sure then up the saturation.
these are particularly egregious because of art and creativity being their biggest selling points. It's not a convenience store, it's like an art college trying to sideline artists for their ads Also 5:22 Also that little rim or emboss or whatever just doesn't match the shape of the barrel, it's slanted down. It's not horrifying to look at but I'm sure a professional artist would notice this and fix it. cylindrical objects without perspective are hard to mess up.
Hasbro has been pulling out the whole "Let's follow market trends like headless chickens"-playbook since that investor group tried to basically take over the board after they found Wizards of the Coast (WotC) make more money than the rest of Hasbro combined. They wanted to spin off WotC as its own company, so they could make sure it was no longer undermonetized and delivered maximum value to investors. I think that's why WotC and Hasbro changed their tone come 2023. Sure, the investors didn't succeed in the coup but that group are still investors and still need to be pleased. So not long after we got the OGL changes, which backfired, we got zealos leak control by Pinkertons, which backfired, AI art in a book, which backfired, mass layoffs before Christmas, backfiring, and now AI art in marketing, backfiring. It's like the whole damn board got together after the failed investor coup against them and said "Hold our beers while we do everything you want (and you get to see why we didn't do it before)." It's (possibly) one of the worst cases of malicious compliance I've seen! Because every month since that investor meeting it feels like Hasbro mimics whatever any other tech company does at the time and the D&D brand gets dragged through the new shit they just pulled, as more people swear of buying their products! I know I am sure as hell not paying for AI art in my books! I feel so bad for all the people working at or with WotC. Whatever people seem to think, they have no say in this kind of stuff and are just people who genuinely care and love the game they work on enough to make it their life. For them to suffer the anger of the fanbase every time WotC decides to shit itself and tell us their loaf smells like fresh baked bread genuinely breaks my heart. Then people make WotC eat their latest loaf and suddenly WotC have to apologize, again, because they can't swallow the shit they're trying to pass of onto the rest of us... 💩
The Barrel seem at 5:25 is what's off. It's not at the same distance to the top all around. It's starting to corkscrew downwards/spiral, like threads in a screw.
It's also just not a barrel, or, well, anything. It's like, a completely closed cylinder with (wonky) bends along its side but no seam where a lid should be joined. Someone could machine an object that shape out of a solid piece of metal, but it would hardly serve any purpose. And it's about as tall as the thickness of a book, so, what actually is it supposed to be? It's nothing, just a nonsensical greeble.
I'm not surprised to hear about WotC, but am saddened by Wacom. I've been drawing with Wacom products since I was in middle school and they make by far my preferred tools for digital art. My entire creative education and journey as an artist has been supported by their technology, and now they're not even bothering to stand by it. Shameful.
Even if the AI isn't derping, with more and more exposure it's getting easier and easier to notice other "stylistic" peculiarities, at least for the commonly used engines.
Just for info: I do love the cinematic tilting head to talk a quick sentence into side camera, it's just funny and top tier quality xd please and thank you (don't stop) :D
"This was definitely done by a vendor. So we're going to need to work to fix that. To do this we're going to need all artists and vendors who work with is to sign a contract where if they do something we don't like then we reserve the right to not pay them while still owning whatever they sold us." - Hasbro Wizards in a few days
I don't quite get the outcry about this one. This is just a promotional social media post that prolly some ad agency did for them. They took the cards and put them on an AI generated background. WotC was talking about the card art, which is not AI, and the post itself isn't an art piece. You don't hire an artist to specifically paint you a piece in social media post format anyways. An ad agency will be provided with the card art in high res and then use that and make a social media post by cutting elements out, adding font or decorational elements.
At 5:18 the error is how the protruding ring (Lip? I don't know what those are called) that is supposed to completely encircle the circumference of the barrel instead terminates half way. Or perhaps it just doesn't align with the top of the barrel.
Absolutely. AI is a fantastic tool with so many applications, but that’s just it, it’s a tool, stop trying to use it to replace an actual thinking person with a mind, the technology isn’t anywhere near powerful enough to warrant a butlerian jihad
AI generated art is laziness. Not saying that it should be banned nor it is super duper evil, but just like fake photos created by photoshop, it must be restrained.
I'm pretty sure the same thing has been said a billion times in the past about cars, tractors and even a leaf blower. you name it the previous generations called it lazy and the end of the world, the future generations called it Tuesday.
There really is no "just restrain" for it. If you take even the most cursory look into the likes of OpenAI and their competitors, you know that there can be no ethical usage of this technology. This desperately needs strict and severe regulation. And clueless politicians being wined and dined into giving them whatever sweetheart deals they want make it clear that this will never be a good faith discussion.
@@BAGG8BAGG Except car, tractor and leaf blower are instruments to solve your problem, because traveling on foot for long distance, working manually on farm and working as janitor are labours and annoyances, not hobbies to majority of people. Art is not a problem for you to solve, it is more of a monetized hobby rather than a job and customers most of the time seek that thrill in buying human-made art. It is just human nature to collect and own what they perceive as a handcrafted masterpiece. A.I generated art lacks that.
In terms of AI we have several issues. 1. It gets too good. (80% is absolutely underestimating the real number of people that dont pixel-peep or have an eye for that. If we have 1 in a hundred, i consider that an optimistic ratio) As a Vtuber i see AI art at this point very regularly and that is just the pieces that get called out by pixelpeepers or other artists. Most people see them and like them - very often even more than the pictures of "real" artists. The problem here is imo not the fact that people use AI. That tech is there to stay and i would compare it to industrial advances like sewing machines, industrialized bakeries etc. But its a problem that they often dont abuse it for selfpromotion or even sell it as "handmade" art. There needs to be some kind of regulation for that, even if i have no idea how. And the "AI derp" also fcks artists that indeed have a "rough" artstyle and do uncanny looking pictures, that suddenly get accused of using it... 2. Im still on the edge of calling the training "steeling from artists". Thats usually not what they do and i think it misrepresents the things that really happen. And the specific names usually come from tags, that are used from these image generators similar like you would search for an artist or its specific style on google. The lawsuit therefore is not about someone steeling someones style (what would be a slippery slope for the whole art space anyway, because similar artstyles are everywhere) and art, but the problem is that their works got used for training, when the artists didnt gave permission for it. But its not that they are copying parts of the pictures to use it in the generation process. Thats as far as i know not how these algorithms work. 3. Its shit for the artists for sure, but that wont take away handmade art in general, tho it will probably cause more artists to use AI as a tool to speed up their processes. What worries me much more is the amount of false information that gets spread by AI abusers - Kyle Hill made a good video about this for the science space on RUclips. And we are damn near at the point where people can create authentic videos of almost every scenario they want to push some agenda. (Israel/Gaza and Ukraine show that pretty darn well atm) And that stuff will have an effect on the political landscape and the next votings in all major countries around the globe. The efficiency of professional trolls around the world is skyrocketing.
For #1, I predict (unless leadership gets really !@#$ or bribed too much by AI vendors) every piece of AI generated content will need to be labelled as such by law. It's already happening for recommendation platforms and AI algorithms that process personal data because scummy tactics are popping up in that space. Lawmakers are currently playing with laws to mention companies and governments must disclose their use of AI, but the laws aren't clear yet. For example there's the brand new NIST AI RMF, but we'd likely all have to continue to fight against scummy use of AI for it to also extend into media. For #2, if the algorithms still work the way they did when Google released a paper on it a few years back, AI is trained to recognise stuff, and to generate an image, the AI just uses a random number generator (RNG) to swap pixels around until the AI trained to recognise the thing thinks the pixels it is looking at is that thing. For example, "an apple on a table", you'd start with noise (and your generator would say probability of apple and table are 0%), then keep randomly altering groups or pixels until you're at maybe 70% apple and table. The prompt "on a" would likely use a detector for "X on a Y" similarly. The input to the recognition bits however would have needed to be fed various photos or artwork that depicted apples and tables (artwork + human generated tags + tags inferred by looking at the social media posts surrounding that image), and that's where the "stealing" ambiguity comes from. It's true that it's not a 100% copy-paste because the algorithm did not copy-paste but instead put pixels in an RNG blender until it could recognise the prompt, but is it close enough? That's what's still being debated. I agree on #3 because I experienced it back in 2022. My office had to close for weeks because it was too dangerous for workers to go through the red zone to get to the office. The area where I lived was filled with hundreds of protesting nut-cases who genuinely believed anything that came out of some social media bot farms that were using all kinds of unaltered images of protests or other atrocities to "prove their point", but the images were provably from a different time and place (like news outlets literally showed the original source and the picture of the buildings in the "wrong" city). The nut-cases believed the unmodified bot farm images anyway, so yeah, there will definitely be more nut-cases believing the bot farms now. The AI tools would be able to add deep-fake voices, merge the elements to change the time and area, do image to video, etc to make it more believable. ...and if the nut-cases back in 2022 didn't fact-check the unmodified stolen bot farm images then, they certainly won't fact-check the AI generated or AI enhanced media now.
consumer boycotting doesn't work when literally every large company has an obligation to their share holders to maximize profit. everyone needs to push for regulation that protects consumers instead of giving these vampires more tax cuts/loopholes
I work in customer services for a company that has decided to use AI to reply to customers. It literally answers with nonsense that has nothing to do with what the customer asked. A customer will write to us to say their item did not arrive. The AI will ask them for photos of the bad condition the item arrived in. I found out the AI does not parse the contents of the email. It uses API variables to provide a response. That is not AI. It's just a bunch of IF THEN statements. But companies don't give a shit. It just means they can pay less in wages.
Bro no it doesn't a.i and discover has it works fine perfectly, and my local Wendy's fast food drive thru works fine for me to a.i is better quicker easier
the only thing i can see curb this is if they pass a law that says you must pay royalties to every artist/source whose art/product was referenced to make the ai generated thing. even if its pennies or fractions of a penny by the amount of times it is sourced it will add up. after all, the program only makes a collage of the sources that trained it.
I've lost so many jobs in the last year due to being outdone by a program trained on solen art. I should get into tattoo art since they haven't trained machines how to do THAT yet.
I sometimes make custom Hearthstone cards and post them on reddit just for fun. It's crazy, how quickly I realised, that "manual" art almost always works better, than AI, while these greedy corporate fuck ups just slap some shitty promt onto a png and call it a day
12:14 Now that was funny. Your prediction came true in the best way possible. I hope you end up getting more things right in the future so I can laugh about that too.
So disappointing to see Wizards go down this road. I remember when they were a small company with just Talislanta under their belt and when they were just starting up Magic.
havent played or collected Magic for years but i still look at cards for the art. the recent LOTR collection was amazing. Hell the sole reason i buy Pokemon cards is for the Artwork. The day the Pokemon company replaces the artists with AI im done with them. WoC has been really really shitty recently, my god....
@5:15 The can ribbing is on a slant, but I think the highlight is to show it just...disappears. Or so it looks on my poor potato. The highlights on the rib should continue behind the book, I think.
As someone who's been playing Magic for 25 or so years, and who does use AI art for my weekly Pathfinder game with my buddies, this is wild to me. AI is good enough for some throwaway images for a roleplaying game, where it can be difficult to find a look you need in the moment. It helps putting a face to a name and description and my players rather enjoy it. It can even be used to help a workflow at times, maybe giving you some ideas for a different composition style or something. But you can't be posting record profits year over year, firing one of the teams that gets you there, and replacing them with said AI. Christmas break or no. Also the gaslighting really doesn't help with that. The main thing that messes me up with so many of these reports, is honestly that it could be used as a workflow enhancer, and is instead used to replace people, rather than help them be more productive in general - which it could be doing.
Ive got no problem with Ai involvement. In fact, I think its going to be necessary for a lot of work. Wizards of the coast however, decided to be thoroughly against Ai involvement, so this is their bed.
It´s not the worse AI. Some lovely lady sent me ´her picture´, which in the background, the building support columns do not all reach the ground. I would imagine that SE Asia has much lighter gravity. AI does not do hands with finger count accurately, because of so many pictures, where it is implied.
However, I prefer her, over the woman whose feet merge into the tree trunk, and objects far in the distance, have the same blur as the tree trunk, on which her pixel sharp body rests. I would imagine this woman has a bad effect on wood. So keeping my wood, well away from her...
On the one where Callum said he didn’t know what was being pointed out, I think it’s the fact that the bands around the cylinder shape just seem to vanish without even appearing to blend with the main body itself. Either way, it’s just… oof…
A company is made of many people. The ones saying we won’t use AI can be overridden by the bosses... bosses who direct others to use AI. Bottom line , by law, in a US company is profit. Profit drives the top decision makers. Short term goals to meet the quarter’s numbers and guarantee their bonuses.
I love the random tangent about the type of land you went on. Always love the passion bleeding out from people explaining things they're passionate about lol
Let’s play along for a mo and suppose we believe Wizards ‘we were told it wasn’t AI’ posts. They recently fired a good chunk of their marketing department and released a statement saying they won’t use AI. Despite this they didn’t properly vet the image before posting and when it was challenged doubled down because someone, apparently, said ‘trust me bro’? Not a good look, but I guess they calculated that being seen as incompetent was better than adding more to the ‘blatant lies’ pile.
Someone literally tried to defend the dial saying that it was just "light refracting from the lens"..... I would love to know what he has to say now that they admitted it
companies are just cheaping out. its way cheaper to generate thousands for the price of cents on some cloud server than to pay artist salaries. they also try to blame the “contractors”. honestly the AI profit rabbit hole goes even deeper; people sell AI music on spotify for money
It's such an insult to the artists who made them what they are.
Richard Garfield got them where they are. It had nothing to do with the "artists"
@@sladewilson9741 Artists come and go, with that said however.. being bitches about this ain't cool lol.
The artists were paid. They weren't doing a favor for the company.
What a dumb statement, the artists did the work they were paid to do, luckily, they are no longer needed.
The artists have nothing to do with it.
The worst part was their statement that tried to gaslight artists into thinking they were stupid for KNOWING it was an AI generated image.
If you want another indicator on the image being AI, the lightbulbs are all wrong. The lighting elements are all floating on nothing, and one of the lightbulbs is just an actual mess inside of it.
Yeah, the lightbulb filaments were the biggest sign for me. The dots on the gauge were second.
Hasbro has been on such a catastrophic downfall the last few years it's frankly astonishing... Also seeing Wacom use AI art is absolutely vile.
They're manager came from Microsoft and pioneered microtransactions and cost cutting
@@terratorment2940 "They're" is short for "they are" right?
shouldn't it be theire?
(not a nativ english speaker, that's why i'm asking).
@@Buttersaemmel You're correct about the contraction; the word they're looking for is spelled "their" (no e at the end). English can be messy when you're trying to spell it.
@@karigami thanks for letting me know both!
i always struggle with "was there an 'e' at the end or not?" ^^
@@Buttersaemmel You're welcome.
One thing that's gotten frustrating recently is AI-generated fake crochet patterns. It's a small-time scam, but it hurts the whole crafting community.
I have also heard of Kindle Direct Publishing-published books on mushrooms that state that poisonous ones are safe to eat... (Well that comes in addition to the number of people pretending that their AI-written stuff is really by some famous author.)
@@TorIverWilhelmsen That's one of the more dangerous ones out there.
@@TorIverWilhelmsen i see, AI is not going to end humanity the way we expected.
@@Buttersaemmel omg this made me snort 😭 next it'll be manuals for how to make an I E D....................
ai generated weaving instructions that are physically impossible?
I find it hilarious when they said "nonono, this was made by *humans*!" and yet refuse to credit the supposed "human" artists. If an artpiece from a large corporation looks scuffed and suspiciously looks like AI and or there's zero credit for the ppl who made said artpiece, chances are its most likely AI
I bet they looked around asking people to volunteer to be crucified and save their asses.
Edit: yup they blamed it on a contractor
To be fair.... they will avoid crediting artists if given the chance. So many companies at this point fit that bill, that I can't even remember which one it was that recently that stopped crediting book artwork, and won't even make pubic the names of their staffed artists. I think 45/45 between WotC and GamesWorkshop, and 10% it was someone else.
Yeah, if AI has a place, it should be used to _help_ artists get their ideas on paper more easily, not _replace_ them.
Proper artists do, just like with Blender etc. You can use AI for rough drafts and color composition, and 3D modeling to create the shapes of environments (like f.e. Neytirix) - and then the real work of drawing/painting begins.
AI is a tool, in more ways than one. =P
Ok what if I want monster ice cream. Type ice cream monster. Found one I like bam😂 why we need a artist even a 4 year can do it
Wait so they fired their staff in favor of ai?… that sucks so much (especially for an artist)
Many companies are doing the same in different fields.
They don’t want people to work anymore, they just want them to consume
No, they fired their staff to cut costs, but also fired those who used AI, and committed to not using AI in the future.
They know the laws in the US are slower than a dead snail when it comes to be updated or passed. So it's pretty obvious that they're abusing the A.I. programs as much as possible right now before they eventually can't.
@@Soliye. They don't mind people working. They'd obviously just rather not pay people if they could.
@@Soliye. I'm so glad it's going to flop very soon for them. If people can't work properly nowadays, with properly related to worse and worse working conditions from income to job stability and available positions etc, then they WONT keep consuming/ Why? Because they CAN'T AFFORD TO CONSUME.
As an artist, this breaks my heart. I only JUST got into MTG last year to play with some friends. I adored the art and had a little dream of "maybe one day my work could be on here" and this is what they do?
Wacom? Omfg, I never owned one. I use XP Pen (which also had to backtrack and make a public apology over an ai promo thing). You make the exact point of how tf are they gonna stay in business which is FOR ARTISTS to just give their said audience the middle finger like this?
I am seeing SO MANY posts of artists giving up this year. I know I'm no pro. I'm self taught, but damn, I have busted my butt to learn and grow. I feel like I landed in the absolute *worst* timing to get back into my art bc of this AI crap.
I am glad though that so many are talking about this and spreading awareness. Thank you Callum for making this video and calling these companies out.
No, the worst timing is for veteran artists, who are not quite to retirement age and will suddenly have to find a completely different set of skills to draw on, just to start over in an entry level job to support their families. At least young artists have the chance to change paths and find something else they can grow as a career. Until machines take that too...
I absolutely love playing mtg with my friends, but wotc has been so anti consumer(and now anti employee) that i started making my own high quality proxies. It's so much fun, and i get to play the game i live again without supporting these ceo's
Corporations dont want "artists", they want menial, backbreaking labor.
Art is too freeing and healthy. They want despair, hopelessness, to keep you oppressed
I go even farther and say they'd like to take people out of equation entirely.
I don’t know much about the mechanics of AI, but I do digital art. AI consistently has issues with flowing lines and repeated straight lines. Windows are never consistent, bookshelves always have books merging into each other, and cloth typically flows into and around itself. Symmetry is nearly always lost in architecture, and trees will have branches coming out of nowhere. These are things that artists have to consciously think about as we draw, but an AI will just make something up.
Yah so artist need to be editor and a.i manager that's it no more artist it's outdated
Whats so frustrating is that they literally chose the worst community to try and pull this off.
MTG, Dungeons and Dragons etc, there fanbases are some of the most creative and loyal you can imagine.
D&D is still making millions from its loyal fans who choose to buy the new books etc, even through you could literally just download from online or just make up your own.
The fanbase adores Dungeons and Dragons and WOTC used to love them back. But since HASBRO bought them it's fucking L after L.
HASBRO has no idea what makes WOTC special and I just hope they sell them or they become independent
This is like those kickstarters that are copy paste, "imma make an MMO".
Wizards of the Coast is going to end up independent within a couple of years at the rate Hasbro is going. Their current status is listed as Neutral on the Stock Market due to a lot of debt. They currently don't have enough cash for dividends, and a lot of their other products aren't selling.
Same with Huion, XPPen, and Wacom.
They just remove all sense of my brand loyalty in a week. I just buy the cheapest drawtab I see right now, I don't care who are they partnering with nor how official they are. They are dead to me.
When I was a kid, I couldn't play the game for shit, but I loved collecting cards for the ART. I became a fan of DiTerlizzi and Kaja and Phil Foglio. I traded a few choice game cards so I could get more Phil Foglio cards from the Unglued deck.
The amount of errors coming out of 5e. Hasbro does not care. The community are cows to milk.
Those 80% that can't tell it's AI are probably also the most susceptible to marketing, nor do they care that artists are being replaced by AI to allow the CEO to upgrade his yacht.
It's a bit like those scam emails that deliberately mispell things to weed out the people who are intelligent and observant enough to not fall for a scam.
100% agree.
It's the background of a promo image. I don't know if anyone would care about it at all if it was human made.
These "visual containers" occupy milliseconds of attention for most people. Why should the common person care?
If it was the card art itself, something that would at least be commonly observed then I guess it'd be important. But this?
@@zenko4187 If they thought people didn't care then they would have said it was an A.I. image from the start, instead of trying to pass it off as human-made.
@@zenko4187 did you miss the part where WotC declared with their whole chest that they wouldn't be using AI, and then literally did? we're not necessarily annoyed at the fact that it's AI generated art, rather, the problem is - simply put - they fired a bunch of their staff who used to do this work, made a claim that they were against AI, then turned around and used AI anyway. even if we assume their cover story is true, that just means they're not interested in proven quality, and they just want to reduce costs by hiring unvetted freelancers and doing no substantial quality checks - so long as it fools or appeals to that 80%, that's all that matters. that, and the fat stacks of cash they think they can save by pulling this BS.
and it seems this isn't something YOU care about, but for many people, the "principle of the thing" IS important. to many people, whether or not a human being had their hand in a work of art DOES matter, no matter how many "milliseconds" are spent paying attention to it. i personally like admiring promo art if it looks good, because i like to appreciate artistic choices made by the human being behind it. as an artist myself, i learn a lot from what i observe in the art of others, but there's nothing to learn from AI generated garbage. now you might say, "but the AI is learning from real artists!", and wordage aside, that's technically true - but it also means AI is gobbling up the mistakes in equal measure to everything else. learning from AI art is no better than tracing someone else's work. you're uncritically repeating whatever mistakes were made by the original hand(s), with no understanding of what actually makes something "good" or "bad".
honestly, this comment - "i don't know if anyone would care about it at all if it was human made" - is a bit laughable considering you're commenting on a video, featuring people who care whether or not it's human made, watched largely by an audience who cares whether or not it's human made. you "don't know" if anyone would care? read the comments. maybe watch the video again. THERE are your people who care. i could go into so many other reasons *why* more people should care about this, reasons beyond "the principle of the thing", but i don't have the time, nor the inclination, but i'm certain there are many video essays and articles online from people more involved in these spaces who could better educate you, anyway. assuming your question isn't rhetorical, that is... and i'm not convinced it isn't, frankly. but i'd like to be wrong, and if so, i do encourage you to find the answer to that question by talking to people who do care, and finding out why. it's just a thought.
For some reason, they decided to make a commitment to zeor usage of AI in all of their products. That's why they tried to hide it. Hasbro/WoTC sucks, I'm not up for defending them. I'm just saying that this use of AI is entirely reasonable.@@Solibrae
Not the first time wizards has gotten in trouble for this. Just a couple of months ago they got caught using ai art in one of their sourcebooks.
That time it was the particular artist being a disgrace, and their art director failing to catch it (which is a shame, but ADs do get overworked sometimes, so I can only assume it was a mix of trusting the artist and not being attentive at the time).
Also the time they us AI artwork for the Tomb raider Secret Lair ad.
For MTG artists, there's another aspect to this: every time WOTC fails to uphold the 'no AI' rule, it invites a bunch of people who don't quite have the eye to discern what is AI and what isn't to loudly accuse artists of having used it. Not only AI rips off our work and pollutes art communities with endless spam that nukes the discoverability of actual artists in spaces that were already famously oversaturated before all this nonsense, but now we also have that extra burden of proving that yes actually, we did make the art we do, and heaven forbid some of the brush strokes came out a little funny in the end.
Regarding the firings, that was Hasbro, the parent company that forced those firings. The problem is higher ups purely looking at numbers and not considering why those numbers are what they are. They cut all departments, even the ones that are profitable (I.e.: WotC).
WotC isn't free of scrutiny in all this. They've done some pretty awful stuff, going all the way back to the early 00's. The last few years have just been especially heinous
Remember when we were told "" AI "" would replace horrible factory jobs and backbreaking labor so humans could focus on creative and self-fulfilling things? *Sigh.*
Also, this makes me glad I'm a Huion user because Jazza back in 2018 recommended the Huion Kamvas 13 pro in one of his videos. Glad I stayed away from Wacom.
EDIT: Found out Huion has literal image generation courses on how to steal other people's art. Don't support them either, I know I won't be buying from them again.
Someone said "We thought AI would free us from labor so we could pursue creative endevors, instead AI frees us from creativity so we can focus on labor."
no one ever said that. that was robots, not AI.
That’s because they create an AI that can actually do that, it takes such an enormous amount of complexity that we just cannot yet reach, it’s not even a matter of cost yet, it’s a matter of technology. Automation has still over the generations vastly reduced the amount of factory jobs and backbreaking labor, but you can’t just “AI” it away
I never truly believed in that. It made no sense that we have the highest population in the history of mankind and yet all of the mundane jobs were going to be done by Ai. What are most people going to do for money? Most people don't have the talent/aptitude/passion for this kind of stuff.
History continues to repeat because people don't learn a damn thing.
Worst thing i spotted was in the AI generated music video for Iron Lung by King Gizzard. At one moment, i went, wait a minute, now this really does look like Frank Frazetta. I remembered his fantasy art and that was the style. Upon closer inspection, i noticed the AI also tried to fake and include the signature.
I mean, what do all original Frank Frazetta paintings in this particular style also have in common? His signature in the bottom right corner. So the AI tried to emulate it.
Then i went a bit deeper into that particular rabbithole, and the whole video is littered with botched attempts to also fake include the signature of the artist being plagiarized in that moment.
What gets me is they have so much actual human artwork in their catalogue that they could have just put those cards into.
Can't wait for the tech utopia where every company only consists of an overpaid CEO and his ai companion.
The CEO will be broke af if no one has a job to make money to buy their stuff.
If the AI's parameters aren't set properly (and they surely won't be when you have a greedy CEO), the AI will just replace the CEO and you have either singularity or killbot hellscape.
@@studiesinflux1304 inb4 Universal Paperclips real life DLC
I think one of the oddest parts of this is that they used AI to design the room that the cards were in, and not just the art on the cards like we were probably expecting them to do.
Fake cards in a real room? No, no... real cards in a fake room!
Man, I remember in a college philosophy class (~15 years ago), where an art student said that artists could never be replaced by machines because machines cannot make "art".
Which is true in regards to machines not having the meaning, message, or creative process behind making a piece, but today we're seeing that most people don't need those aspects for an image to be considered "art".
It's wild how far and fast things have gone and are going.
Art cannot be replaced, but content can.
it's scary, the whole point of automation was to make people do less work and have more time to do art or meaningful things, and yet it's being used to destroy the fun things in life
i mean, the idea of what is Art has been shifting for a long time now. a banana duct taped to dry wall is now "art" but only really because someone says it is.
@J-wm4ss the point of automation is so the big wigs can get as much labor as possible by paying as little as possible. Those at the top of a capitalist system will always be looking for ways to continue gaining wealth while extracting every bit they can from everywhere and everyone else. The idea that automation would improve the day to day life of the everyday person is primarily a romantic and optimistic point of view (and I agree with it) but it won't happen unless action is taken.
Art has always been bullshit, there is no meaning behind 99% of it, AI art is better than the vast majority of 'art' actual artists produce.
Wacom specifically infuriates me. It's insane for them to expect artists, the people most harmed by image generating AI to a) not notice their clearly AI generated marketing material and/or b) not care that they are blatantly endorsing this harmful practice.
Imagine supporting WOTC with your money in this day and age.
The reason you were able to predict that is because that's almost EXACTLY what Wizards of the Coast did when called out for using AI in their D&D books.
They put out a bundle of excuses about how the art was submitted before they knew AI was bad and didn't think to check and on and on.
Wizards has an ongoing AI art problem and instead of taking a critical look and adapting to the situation they trip over their feet again and again, blaming the "artists" that submit generated assets and putting out feel-good statements about how they totally don't allow it.
If I had a dollar for every company that I found out was caught using AI and had a name starting with W, I'd have two dollars starting from now
Only two?
Anyone wanna place bets on how long it takes them to start using AI art again? I'm guessing one month until they're caught with their pants down again while insisting on twitter that people just don't know the difference between pants and bare ass cheeks.
As a long time Magic the Gathering player (94) coming back in 2023 this will have me quit right away If they start using AI generated Art on the Cards. One of the biggest reasons I got back was collecting some of the arts I missed. 😤
Notice that MTG said twice in two different posts literally "create FINAL Magic products". FINAL, so they allow using AI in anything besides the finalizing the last image on the pipeline.
One more reason to not play magic
If sending the pinkertons to rob a man wasnt enough
Also don't forget the 30th anniversary where they sold proxies for a grand. That really pissed me off. They should have made those packs dirt cheap and made them legal to play for a short time.
Best thing that could happen is for "Training Data" to be viewed in law as copyright infringement without the consent of the owner of said work.
Being able to mimic a style requires getting trained on that persons work.
I stilp believe the best place for generative AI is as an artists personal assistant, being fed only the owners personal work to speed up concepting and allow for ideas to bounce around without the time commitment of manually sketching every thought an artist has.
what you're saying is a best case scenario, but let's be honest seen under copyright law this is transformative and with that most probably fair use.
not trying to defend it just saying what i think would be a logical conclusion.
@@Buttersaemmel transformativity on its own isn't enough for fair use. You need to depict no greater a portion of the original work than is necessary to make the point of your own work, and in any case your final product must not function as a replacement of the work you included (which is a big part of why a lot of react content is not fair use).
I would expect the position of AI training as to the former of these two tests to be almost impossible to define, and the latter to be controversial at least.
@@Poldovico You only have the rights that you can afford to defend. This is why capitalism and our entire justice system is shit.
Hey Callum! Great video and I like how you added the other camera angle. I have one suggestion from *my* point of view, though. Don't look at the viewer/camera when you do the other camera angle.. it appears awkward. Basically, just use it only when you are still talking facing forward and maybe only look at it very rarely to highlight an important point while zooming in on your face for comedic/entertainment value. It will have a much better effect if you do it that way and add to the seriousness/entertainment value of the content. It seems that other channels that focus on the dialogue do it that way and it feels more natural. At any rate, nice video!
This was literally everything I was afraid of.
Video game box art being made with AI. Comic books, written and drawn by AI. Literally anything to do with talent or creative endeavors, done by AI. Dungeon-Mastering will be filled by AI roles with modules and source material using AI renditions.
Our favorite things we have ever loved are in danger of becoming templated formats in a file-tree, repackaged and resold.
Very good way to tell ai from actual art or photoshopped images it rising the saturation. When saturated ai images have a lot of weird pixelated artifacts that don't show up in normal art. The pixels usually appear in background or on edges of the foreground objects. If you're not sure then up the saturation.
You can tell it to lower
Watch your back the pinkertons might be after you for covering this
these are particularly egregious because of art and creativity being their biggest selling points. It's not a convenience store, it's like an art college trying to sideline artists for their ads
Also 5:22 Also that little rim or emboss or whatever just doesn't match the shape of the barrel, it's slanted down. It's not horrifying to look at but I'm sure a professional artist would notice this and fix it. cylindrical objects without perspective are hard to mess up.
Hasbro needs an intervention. As in: legal consequences for their theft through AI, employee mistreatment and managerial insanity.
WotC without ANY management staff capable of recognizing AI art is a terrible sign.
Hasbro has been pulling out the whole "Let's follow market trends like headless chickens"-playbook since that investor group tried to basically take over the board after they found Wizards of the Coast (WotC) make more money than the rest of Hasbro combined. They wanted to spin off WotC as its own company, so they could make sure it was no longer undermonetized and delivered maximum value to investors.
I think that's why WotC and Hasbro changed their tone come 2023. Sure, the investors didn't succeed in the coup but that group are still investors and still need to be pleased. So not long after we got the OGL changes, which backfired, we got zealos leak control by Pinkertons, which backfired, AI art in a book, which backfired, mass layoffs before Christmas, backfiring, and now AI art in marketing, backfiring.
It's like the whole damn board got together after the failed investor coup against them and said "Hold our beers while we do everything you want (and you get to see why we didn't do it before)."
It's (possibly) one of the worst cases of malicious compliance I've seen! Because every month since that investor meeting it feels like Hasbro mimics whatever any other tech company does at the time and the D&D brand gets dragged through the new shit they just pulled, as more people swear of buying their products! I know I am sure as hell not paying for AI art in my books!
I feel so bad for all the people working at or with WotC. Whatever people seem to think, they have no say in this kind of stuff and are just people who genuinely care and love the game they work on enough to make it their life. For them to suffer the anger of the fanbase every time WotC decides to shit itself and tell us their loaf smells like fresh baked bread genuinely breaks my heart.
Then people make WotC eat their latest loaf and suddenly WotC have to apologize, again, because they can't swallow the shit they're trying to pass of onto the rest of us... 💩
Hello again, Mr. Upton. Happy New Year, good sir. 🍵
Can't wait for AI to replace the Card/Game Designer as well. WotC can then say they are fully automated.
The Barrel seem at 5:25 is what's off. It's not at the same distance to the top all around. It's starting to corkscrew downwards/spiral, like threads in a screw.
It's also just not a barrel, or, well, anything. It's like, a completely closed cylinder with (wonky) bends along its side but no seam where a lid should be joined. Someone could machine an object that shape out of a solid piece of metal, but it would hardly serve any purpose. And it's about as tall as the thickness of a book, so, what actually is it supposed to be? It's nothing, just a nonsensical greeble.
@@Poldovico Yeah I realized that later. Just a bizarre thing all around.
I'm not surprised to hear about WotC, but am saddened by Wacom. I've been drawing with Wacom products since I was in middle school and they make by far my preferred tools for digital art. My entire creative education and journey as an artist has been supported by their technology, and now they're not even bothering to stand by it. Shameful.
Why didn't they just... Take a picture on a phone...
Even if the AI isn't derping, with more and more exposure it's getting easier and easier to notice other "stylistic" peculiarities, at least for the commonly used engines.
I'll bet anyone that they've been using AI art for awhile now.
Just for info: I do love the cinematic tilting head to talk a quick sentence into side camera, it's just funny and top tier quality xd please and thank you (don't stop) :D
"This was definitely done by a vendor. So we're going to need to work to fix that. To do this we're going to need all artists and vendors who work with is to sign a contract where if they do something we don't like then we reserve the right to not pay them while still owning whatever they sold us." - Hasbro Wizards in a few days
I don't quite get the outcry about this one. This is just a promotional social media post that prolly some ad agency did for them. They took the cards and put them on an AI generated background. WotC was talking about the card art, which is not AI, and the post itself isn't an art piece.
You don't hire an artist to specifically paint you a piece in social media post format anyways. An ad agency will be provided with the card art in high res and then use that and make a social media post by cutting elements out, adding font or decorational elements.
At 5:18 the error is how the protruding ring (Lip? I don't know what those are called) that is supposed to completely encircle the circumference of the barrel instead terminates half way. Or perhaps it just doesn't align with the top of the barrel.
AI is interesting for iteration and concepting but it should not replace humans for official art pieces or shit like that.
That's crazy.
Absolutely. AI is a fantastic tool with so many applications, but that’s just it, it’s a tool, stop trying to use it to replace an actual thinking person with a mind, the technology isn’t anywhere near powerful enough to warrant a butlerian jihad
AI generated art is laziness. Not saying that it should be banned nor it is super duper evil, but just like fake photos created by photoshop, it must be restrained.
I'm pretty sure the same thing has been said a billion times in the past about cars, tractors and even a leaf blower. you name it the previous generations called it lazy and the end of the world, the future generations called it Tuesday.
@@BAGG8BAGG he explicitly doesn't call for a ban but restrains tho.
so look at it like people demanding more safety trough things like seatbelts.
There really is no "just restrain" for it. If you take even the most cursory look into the likes of OpenAI and their competitors, you know that there can be no ethical usage of this technology. This desperately needs strict and severe regulation. And clueless politicians being wined and dined into giving them whatever sweetheart deals they want make it clear that this will never be a good faith discussion.
@@Buttersaemmel I wasn't disputing his position on the restraining of ai, but the use of the term lazy.
@@BAGG8BAGG Except car, tractor and leaf blower are instruments to solve your problem, because traveling on foot for long distance, working manually on farm and working as janitor are labours and annoyances, not hobbies to majority of people. Art is not a problem for you to solve, it is more of a monetized hobby rather than a job and customers most of the time seek that thrill in buying human-made art. It is just human nature to collect and own what they perceive as a handcrafted masterpiece. A.I generated art lacks that.
In terms of AI we have several issues.
1. It gets too good. (80% is absolutely underestimating the real number of people that dont pixel-peep or have an eye for that. If we have 1 in a hundred, i consider that an optimistic ratio)
As a Vtuber i see AI art at this point very regularly and that is just the pieces that get called out by pixelpeepers or other artists. Most people see them and like them - very often even more than the pictures of "real" artists. The problem here is imo not the fact that people use AI. That tech is there to stay and i would compare it to industrial advances like sewing machines, industrialized bakeries etc. But its a problem that they often dont abuse it for selfpromotion or even sell it as "handmade" art. There needs to be some kind of regulation for that, even if i have no idea how.
And the "AI derp" also fcks artists that indeed have a "rough" artstyle and do uncanny looking pictures, that suddenly get accused of using it...
2. Im still on the edge of calling the training "steeling from artists". Thats usually not what they do and i think it misrepresents the things that really happen. And the specific names usually come from tags, that are used from these image generators similar like you would search for an artist or its specific style on google.
The lawsuit therefore is not about someone steeling someones style (what would be a slippery slope for the whole art space anyway, because similar artstyles are everywhere) and art, but the problem is that their works got used for training, when the artists didnt gave permission for it. But its not that they are copying parts of the pictures to use it in the generation process.
Thats as far as i know not how these algorithms work.
3. Its shit for the artists for sure, but that wont take away handmade art in general, tho it will probably cause more artists to use AI as a tool to speed up their processes.
What worries me much more is the amount of false information that gets spread by AI abusers - Kyle Hill made a good video about this for the science space on RUclips. And we are damn near at the point where people can create authentic videos of almost every scenario they want to push some agenda. (Israel/Gaza and Ukraine show that pretty darn well atm)
And that stuff will have an effect on the political landscape and the next votings in all major countries around the globe. The efficiency of professional trolls around the world is skyrocketing.
For #1, I predict (unless leadership gets really !@#$ or bribed too much by AI vendors) every piece of AI generated content will need to be labelled as such by law.
It's already happening for recommendation platforms and AI algorithms that process personal data because scummy tactics are popping up in that space. Lawmakers are currently playing with laws to mention companies and governments must disclose their use of AI, but the laws aren't clear yet. For example there's the brand new NIST AI RMF, but we'd likely all have to continue to fight against scummy use of AI for it to also extend into media.
For #2, if the algorithms still work the way they did when Google released a paper on it a few years back, AI is trained to recognise stuff, and to generate an image, the AI just uses a random number generator (RNG) to swap pixels around until the AI trained to recognise the thing thinks the pixels it is looking at is that thing. For example, "an apple on a table", you'd start with noise (and your generator would say probability of apple and table are 0%), then keep randomly altering groups or pixels until you're at maybe 70% apple and table. The prompt "on a" would likely use a detector for "X on a Y" similarly.
The input to the recognition bits however would have needed to be fed various photos or artwork that depicted apples and tables (artwork + human generated tags + tags inferred by looking at the social media posts surrounding that image), and that's where the "stealing" ambiguity comes from. It's true that it's not a 100% copy-paste because the algorithm did not copy-paste but instead put pixels in an RNG blender until it could recognise the prompt, but is it close enough? That's what's still being debated.
I agree on #3 because I experienced it back in 2022. My office had to close for weeks because it was too dangerous for workers to go through the red zone to get to the office. The area where I lived was filled with hundreds of protesting nut-cases who genuinely believed anything that came out of some social media bot farms that were using all kinds of unaltered images of protests or other atrocities to "prove their point", but the images were provably from a different time and place (like news outlets literally showed the original source and the picture of the buildings in the "wrong" city).
The nut-cases believed the unmodified bot farm images anyway, so yeah, there will definitely be more nut-cases believing the bot farms now. The AI tools would be able to add deep-fake voices, merge the elements to change the time and area, do image to video, etc to make it more believable. ...and if the nut-cases back in 2022 didn't fact-check the unmodified stolen bot farm images then, they certainly won't fact-check the AI generated or AI enhanced media now.
Callum Upton is the most well-informed, homeless looking creator on RUclips.
The guy is awesome.
Lmao
hahaha, thank you. i think
consumer boycotting doesn't work when literally every large company has an obligation to their share holders to maximize profit. everyone needs to push for regulation that protects consumers instead of giving these vampires more tax cuts/loopholes
I work in customer services for a company that has decided to use AI to reply to customers. It literally answers with nonsense that has nothing to do with what the customer asked. A customer will write to us to say their item did not arrive. The AI will ask them for photos of the bad condition the item arrived in. I found out the AI does not parse the contents of the email. It uses API variables to provide a response. That is not AI. It's just a bunch of IF THEN statements. But companies don't give a shit. It just means they can pay less in wages.
Bro no it doesn't a.i and discover has it works fine perfectly, and my local Wendy's fast food drive thru works fine for me to a.i is better quicker easier
@@imnugget8085 Maybe you can ask AI to help you with your English. I have no idea what you said.
Love the Dark Callum side shots.
I'm more worried about the AI used in Magic the Gathering Arena. The "shuffler" is so awful, you can predict what cards you get.
the only thing i can see curb this is if they pass a law that says you must pay royalties to every artist/source whose art/product was referenced to make the ai generated thing. even if its pennies or fractions of a penny by the amount of times it is sourced it will add up. after all, the program only makes a collage of the sources that trained it.
The barrels lines and ridge do not match the curve of the barrels top on the 2nd image, it derps and gives up.
I'm fine with AI art when just messing around, but absolutely not commercially. This is just egregious.
Considering how nonsensical and maddening the art is, they should call the program 'Emr-AI-kul'.
I've lost so many jobs in the last year due to being outdone by a program trained on solen art. I should get into tattoo art since they haven't trained machines how to do THAT yet.
I find the two cam setup a bit distracting, specially with the audio change when not facing the microphone.
I sometimes make custom Hearthstone cards and post them on reddit just for fun. It's crazy, how quickly I realised, that "manual" art almost always works better, than AI, while these greedy corporate fuck ups just slap some shitty promt onto a png and call it a day
12:14 Now that was funny. Your prediction came true in the best way possible.
I hope you end up getting more things right in the future so I can laugh about that too.
So glad my friend linked me this video , I don’t know if I would have found your channel otherwise.
I no longer regret proxying all my magic cards and dnd rules.
This channel is criminally under-subbed.
So disappointing to see Wizards go down this road. I remember when they were a small company with just Talislanta under their belt and when they were just starting up Magic.
What in de fiznuck!! Unreal! As a artist, I see this as insane behavior by WOTC, and I used Wacom products for years. Wow!
havent played or collected Magic for years but i still look at cards for the art. the recent LOTR collection was amazing.
Hell the sole reason i buy Pokemon cards is for the Artwork.
The day the Pokemon company replaces the artists with AI im done with them.
WoC has been really really shitty recently, my god....
@5:15 The can ribbing is on a slant, but I think the highlight is to show it just...disappears. Or so it looks on my poor potato. The highlights on the rib should continue behind the book, I think.
great video... where the angle changes a stylistic choice? just curious lol
Thanks for covering this and wacom's story
As someone who's been playing Magic for 25 or so years, and who does use AI art for my weekly Pathfinder game with my buddies, this is wild to me.
AI is good enough for some throwaway images for a roleplaying game, where it can be difficult to find a look you need in the moment. It helps putting a face to a name and description and my players rather enjoy it.
It can even be used to help a workflow at times, maybe giving you some ideas for a different composition style or something.
But you can't be posting record profits year over year, firing one of the teams that gets you there, and replacing them with said AI. Christmas break or no. Also the gaslighting really doesn't help with that.
The main thing that messes me up with so many of these reports, is honestly that it could be used as a workflow enhancer, and is instead used to replace people, rather than help them be more productive in general - which it could be doing.
Ive got no problem with Ai involvement. In fact, I think its going to be necessary for a lot of work. Wizards of the coast however, decided to be thoroughly against Ai involvement, so this is their bed.
You get a million points for the non-euclidian reference 😂
Man, I am just not on the irrational AI hate bandwagon. I feel so out of place thinking this technology is awesome
It´s not the worse AI. Some lovely lady sent me ´her picture´, which in the background, the building support columns do not all reach the ground. I would imagine that SE Asia has much lighter gravity. AI does not do hands with finger count accurately, because of so many pictures, where it is implied.
However, I prefer her, over the woman whose feet merge into the tree trunk, and objects far in the distance, have the same blur as the tree trunk, on which her pixel sharp body rests. I would imagine this woman has a bad effect on wood. So keeping my wood, well away from her...
Has WOTC ever paid royalties to the Tolkien Estate regarding D&D?
On the one where Callum said he didn’t know what was being pointed out, I think it’s the fact that the bands around the cylinder shape just seem to vanish without even appearing to blend with the main body itself. Either way, it’s just… oof…
If WotC start using AI to draw card art, they better sell packs for free.
@4:24, I believe the technical term for what is going on is, "AI Hallucinations".
A company is made of many people. The ones saying we won’t use AI can be overridden by the bosses... bosses who direct others to use AI. Bottom line , by law, in a US company is profit. Profit drives the top decision makers. Short term goals to meet the quarter’s numbers and guarantee their bonuses.
loved the vid but hated that camera swapping jesus that was off-putting
This happening after Wizzards told us the AI art in DnD was a mistake taht would not repeat.
5:24 I think the metal ring around the object, which should stay the same, gets smaller in the marked section.
I love the random tangent about the type of land you went on. Always love the passion bleeding out from people explaining things they're passionate about lol
Thank you for calling this out.
Ai images like those seem like a dream, I mean, you know what they are but looks weird, like in a dream when you see some images.
I think the issue with the barrel-looking thing is that the ring is wrapping around it at an angle?
I don't like the camera angle switches. It's a weird angle, too close to the face and kinda "nervous" (bit cartoony too).
Let’s play along for a mo and suppose we believe Wizards ‘we were told it wasn’t AI’ posts.
They recently fired a good chunk of their marketing department and released a statement saying they won’t use AI.
Despite this they didn’t properly vet the image before posting and when it was challenged doubled down because someone, apparently, said ‘trust me bro’?
Not a good look, but I guess they calculated that being seen as incompetent was better than adding more to the ‘blatant lies’ pile.
Remember the previous scheme they tried to pull off? They need you. You don't need them.
Again!? At this point it's not an accident.
I like your camera switches dude
Someone literally tried to defend the dial saying that it was just "light refracting from the lens".....
I would love to know what he has to say now that they admitted it
companies are just cheaping out. its way cheaper to generate thousands for the price of cents on some cloud server than to pay artist salaries. they also try to blame the “contractors”.
honestly the AI profit rabbit hole goes even deeper; people sell AI music on spotify for money
Really cool that everyone spent the last decade telling people to "learn to code" and now they're being coded out of a job.